Wildlife Road Crossings with Cindy Dunn, PA Conservation & Natural Resources Secretary.
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00:13 - Cindy Dunn secretary of the pa department of conservation and natural resources
00:19 - how big a problem is drivers
00:21 - having collisions with wildlife in Pennsylvania.
00:26 - Yeah Pennsylvania
00:27 - leads the nation and and
00:29 - deer vehicle collisions is actually quite a
00:31 - quite a problem so you think about that
00:33 - but many other.
00:35 - Tax groups really go on notice like amphibians and reptiles
00:40 - and amphibians in the spring when you're moving
00:43 - around the so called vernal ponds there's a lot of
00:46 - carnage that time and
00:49 - all all the taxes of tax or just things like mammals birds.
00:53 - Amphibians reptiles is quite an issue
00:56 - in Pennsylvania i think about are many many miles of rural roads
01:00 - we are a commonwealth and
01:02 - i could fill this in for you but
01:04 - we.
01:05 - Are
01:06 - record breaking on the miles of roadways
01:08 - of we
01:09 - we paved and made roads out of a lot of farmlands and forests roads so
01:13 - we've got lots of roads with a lot of
01:15 - vehicle collisions
01:17 - and we have.
01:18 - A diversity of wildlife in Pennsylvania we are blessed with
01:23 - eighty three thousand miles of streams and rivers
01:26 - terrain rich in
01:27 - animal life we've got a healthy
01:29 - bird population we've got a very large deer population so
01:33 - we're just set up right for a commonwealth with a lot of issues and so it's really.
01:38 - An asset and an opportunity to get ahead of this a little bit
01:42 - what's happening to the wildlife habitat that puts wildlife in the path of vehicles.
01:49 - When you think about anything that
01:50 - disrupts or fragments habitat
01:53 - anything on the landscape as resulting in loss of natural habitat
01:57 - really creates a
01:59 - need for animals to move around and
02:02 - so you might have a situation where it's a highway crossing
02:05 - pipeline crossing could be
02:07 - at a dam or a waterways or development of any kind
02:11 - creates an obstacle so wildlife need to move for their lifecycles
02:16 - to feed to rear and raise their young
02:19 - different
02:20 - different seasons they do different things they seek different foods in the winter
02:25 - than they may in the summer they seek sure shelter.
02:28 - So you have animals moving around and so understanding and knowing
02:32 - where the true needs for connectivity and corridors are is very important
02:37 - so that's where we distinguish between say a quarter and a crossing
02:40 - quarters can be something like the mount rich
02:42 - here about Harrisburg like the kind of tiny Ridge
02:45 - or the allegheny front
02:47 - like major
02:48 - mountain ranges which are often migration corridors
02:51 - a crossing is where.
02:54 - Penndot would create an opportunity for.
02:57 - Printers to cross
02:58 - over or under a highway for instance so
03:01 - crossings and corridors and dcnr swirled is more
03:05 - the corridors the wildlife
03:07 - habitat connectivity and the critter
03:09 - animals and it'll be weather's habitat
03:12 - and and pen dots world it's really the crossing so it's.
03:17 - Those dcnr and pandora have agreed to co-lead
03:20 - this eleven agency working group.
03:23 - That came out of
03:24 - house resolution eighty seven and everyone at the table
03:28 - brings something unique and welcoming needed to this
03:31 - complex discussion.
03:33 - Now let's talk more about the
03:35 - special crossings that allow wildlife to safely cross the highway
03:39 - we already have a number of them in Pennsylvania don't worry about how many
03:42 - exist right now.
03:45 - Know i don't actually have the number of how many but you do see
03:48 - you just see them everywhere and they really run the gamut from.
03:51 - Underpasses all like a nine ninety nine where bears and deer can cross underneath
03:57 - ninety nine it was
03:58 - fairly relatively new highway so that incorporated that
04:02 - then you see kind of unique features like along
04:05 - five twenty two
04:06 - near mount union where an
04:09 - accommodation was made for the map turtle hey
04:11 - it's a very special
04:13 - turtle and not everywhere in Pennsylvania is unique and it needed habitat
04:17 - for it's a habit somebody comes out of the water and berries eggs and it has to have
04:22 - haven't touched right along the river bank and
04:25 - so that was added after the highway was added.
04:29 - Then you have things like dcnr recently did
04:32 - at cic allenby state park where we added a naturalistic fish way
04:37 - because this is not a highway situation but the river is a highway
04:40 - for migratory fish like shad and iOS but also local fish that need to move up down
04:46 - so a nationalistic fish way
04:48 - is providing il habitat crossing
04:52 - there's so many different examples that my micro and macro scale and so people think
04:57 - about the big overpass that you may have seen you know and out west or
05:02 - over mass crossings
05:03 - but they do take many many forms
05:06 - and
05:06 - we at dcnr focus on the habitat connectivity the forest land habitat connectivity
05:13 - what uncut activity stream connectivity.
05:17 - And like
05:17 - where it comes to a highway situation that pen dot c expert on the
05:22 - design and building across an overpass or underpass
05:26 - are some places like
05:27 - kind of automatically serve that function i i walk around wildwood lake here at
05:31 - Harrisburg you'll see there's an underpass
05:34 - by the Paxton creek there.
05:36 - That is utilized heavily by wildlife because it's along the creek and
05:40 - underpass under twenty two three twenty two
05:43 - so you have situations where.
05:45 - Accommodating humans needs wildlife have been accommodated as well
05:50 - so we actually have many of them
05:52 - already but this support group or identify the need and come up with a strategic plan
05:58 - on where all we need to to provide them over
06:01 - over the next
06:02 - decades and where we can
06:05 - perhaps do a better job.
06:07 - As a commonwealth and our planning and and preserve
06:10 - what's already in place and what's there and
06:13 - keep that connectivity going.
06:15 - Secretary done expand on the news from the
06:17 - governor's office you've already touched on it twice
06:20 - where state agencies will be able to collaborate on a plan to reduce
06:25 - wildlife vehicle collision so
06:28 - tell us who's involved.
06:30 - So
06:31 - governor the governor asked penndot and dcnr to lead this and we have a dp
06:36 - and so many game commission Pennsylvania fish and boat commission.
06:40 - Pennsylvania department of insurance
06:43 - we have d p because they regulate the wetlands and they have
06:47 - waterways
06:48 - waterways there are tremendous
06:50 - opportunity.
06:52 - Department of health we have.
06:55 - Gosh i dunno who I've missed so far but we have pretty free myself that soup of
06:59 - agencies offering something unique to the table
07:03 - for this for group and the governor's policy office
07:06 - the governor's office has asked us to collaborate and work together so.
07:11 - As a
07:11 - leaders are
07:12 - policy director.
07:14 - Is leading with the policy directors of the other
07:17 - agencies and working with penndot to lay out
07:20 - an agenda and a plan for
07:22 - really gleaning the best that each agency has offer
07:26 - and
07:26 - coming up with a plan for Pennsylvania has for house resolution eighty seven
07:31 - how are you going to go about this collab operation secretary done
07:34 - is there a meeting is there something
07:36 - formal in the works
07:38 - is going to get things going yes.
07:40 - Are there meetings happening now are the policy offices are working with
07:45 - some of the contractors to lay out a plan for the summer
07:49 - to convene and pull out the expertise
07:52 - each one of our.
07:54 - Agencies has a set of stakeholders we call them
07:56 - you're interested parties who have a lot to offer
07:59 - like for instance DC at arts world
08:02 - the land trust community.
08:04 - Like western Pennsylvania conservancy for instance is a partner with us on our
08:08 - heritage area program or Harry's partnership for
08:11 - wildlife
08:13 - but other land trust like nature conservancy and others have a lot of mapping and
08:18 - biodiversity information to bring to the table yeah
08:21 - but each agency has partnerships like that so.
08:24 - Alright now what you're planning our
08:26 - engagements for different sectors
08:28 - so that the transportation sector or the insurance sector the health
08:33 - and medical sectors can have
08:35 - their input
08:36 - for what
08:37 - if what they
08:38 - feel should be into the plan
08:40 - there's a lot of interest in this and
08:42 - a lot of people have something to bring to the table so
08:46 - each agency will try to.
08:48 - Provide that funnel for input and ideas to then
08:52 - weave into a cohesive plan for the commonwealth
08:55 - let's go back to a point you made earlier a secretary done
08:59 - and that has to do do with not just obviously preventing collisions between vehicles
09:05 - and wildlife but there's another goal
09:07 - that has to do with reconnecting what you've referred to as
09:11 - fragmented wild lands and the governor has mentioned this too
09:15 - so talk more about that point.
09:18 - When you think about the name Pennsylvania that all alright tells you what
09:22 - essentially a natural haven't had it was penn's woods
09:25 - so we were forced to state
09:27 - i i may have mis attribute this
09:30 - comment but i think it was William pendants hit a
09:32 - squirrel could go free talk across a couple well
09:35 - that's not the case anymore
09:37 - we've
09:38 - we have needed farmland to feed us all we've god highways we've got
09:43 - housing and development we've got industrial development
09:46 - we have a very fragmented habitat in Pennsylvania
09:49 - land use decisions are made it's a very local level at the township and city and in
09:54 - in
09:55 - the community level
09:56 - which has a lot of advantages but the disadvantage is.
10:00 - You don't always connect
10:01 - dots from line to line so where we can really
10:05 - i think this plan that will come up with will really speak to planning departments
10:10 - perhaps mainly at the county level because Kelly planning
10:14 - offices provide a framework that helps local townships
10:18 - and mrs polities
10:20 - plan at the local level so if we can just
10:23 - put the building blocks in place
10:25 - where a like a mountain quarter like the kid attended to be preserved throughout it's
10:31 - length or river corridor could be preserved and
10:33 - actually there's a
10:35 - there's an opportunity for restoration and a lot of places
10:38 - habitat
10:39 - loss
10:40 - whether it's mining whether it's
10:42 - a brownfields development that
10:44 - was abandoned abandoned mill all
10:46 - along the stream or river
10:47 - and that we can do we could
10:49 - perhaps restore that habitat and bring back some connectivity
10:52 - last question secretary done is there's some time table
10:56 - when the
10:58 - plan for wildlife road crossings
11:01 - has to be in erp place.
11:03 - Well we're aiming for
11:05 - this fall but the final timeline is being developed right now
11:09 - we want to develop
11:11 - we want to lay out a series of meetings and planning
11:13 - and make sure we get the data and input we need so all
11:16 - one now's the time lionesses were a little more
11:18 - certain about what all we need to feed into that.
11:22 - Cindy Dunn secretary of the pa department of
11:25 - conservation and natural resources thanks for your time
11:29 - and thank you thanks for your interest.
11:31 - Hmm.