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Inside the Lines: PIAA Update 06/05/26

PIAA update with Mark Byers, Executive Director at PIAA; and interviews with the two fastest women in PA, Kaddel Howard and Amirah Nesmith.

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00:11 - Thank you for joining us inside the lines i'm Corey Clark.

00:15 - This month we're going to

00:16 - get an update on the p o w a from the new p edible

00:20 - executive director Mark buyers who joins us from our camp hill studio.

00:25 - Thank you for asking me

00:26 - coming in

00:27 - it but my apologies thank you for having me.

00:31 - And

00:32 - so markets your first season as in this new position

00:35 - you've been around for a while but now as the head man

00:39 - how is your first year

00:40 - gone

00:41 - i think will

00:42 - started January one

00:44 - and was fortunate

00:45 - to.

00:46 - Inherit a fantastic staff

00:49 - a strong board

00:50 - i feel privileged that they put me in this position.

00:54 - So starting January one went through the winter sports season

00:57 - it was a little different.

00:59 - Not being a tournament director and having.

01:02 - An idea of everything that's happening what's taking place throughout the course of

01:06 - the tournament that's been a change for me

01:09 - but I've really enjoyed watch and the people on our staff grow and and making

01:13 - different relationships across the state with our schools.

01:17 - Right a different perspective what what events

01:21 - were you usually running up to this point

01:24 - i think the first time that it hit me is when we add our team championships and

01:28 - in the past I've been tournament director and responsible for

01:32 - everything from soup to nuts

01:34 - and walking onto the floor for our quarter finals

01:37 - and not knowing exactly which teams are on which mats

01:40 - the schedule just not having that intimate

01:42 - knowledge of the event was something i didn't like

01:45 - and

01:46 - but

01:46 - we have great staff Keenan us and Alex mica

01:50 - ran the event to perfection and it was nice to sit back and watch other people do it.

01:58 - Alright so one issue that's come up.

02:01 - Here and right as you

02:03 - take the

02:04 - take the job is.

02:06 - There being legislation to allow there to be separate playoff system so

02:12 - and

02:12 - to this point

02:14 - basically the PR w i could not have

02:17 - separate playoffs for a private

02:19 - versus public or

02:21 - boundary versus non boundary schools right that was

02:24 - that was

02:25 - basically legislation or there was legislation against it

02:29 - can you talk about.

02:30 - The the pending

02:32 - now there's pending legislation that would allow it at his pass the house

02:36 - still not through the senate but is there.

02:39 - What would be the next step if it were to pass the senate

02:42 - so if it were to pass the senate

02:44 - the current language

02:45 - of the bill provides that we would have open meetings

02:48 - across the state and each of our twelve districts

02:51 - not only representatives of be audibly but representatives of the oversight council.

02:56 - Will have the it would provide for the opportunity for public input

03:00 - and following

03:01 - each of those twelve meetings

03:03 - then we bring back that information to the board of directors

03:06 - ultimately for them to make a decision.

03:09 - There are three different determinations in the current

03:12 - bill that could be provided one is to separate all sports

03:15 - in post season

03:16 - another is to separate particular sports

03:19 - and the final is to do nothing.

03:22 - And the board is to provide rationale when they come out of executive session.

03:26 - For

03:27 - you know the reasons that they made the determination that they do.

03:32 - Have you gotten any indication

03:34 - because this is an issue that has been around for awhile but we've sure

03:38 - this is probably the first legislative

03:41 - movement that we've seen on this

03:44 - have you got any any indication as to.

03:48 - Where the consensus would lean and in this case

03:53 - cause you've heard you've heard from people on both sides of this

03:56 - and.

03:58 - What what do you think it would lean at this point

04:01 - yeah i think the the house vote shows us that

04:03 - from a statewide percentage you know that

04:06 - didn't get passed one seventy three to twenty eight so.

04:10 - Looking at the support that it had in the house.

04:13 - There obviously seems to be some statewide sentiment

04:16 - in that direction it's

04:18 - certainly not a new issue i started in ninety nine and every time there

04:22 - appears to be success above and beyond what the percentage of our

04:26 - in in the term of the bill what non boundary schools have in our playoffs

04:31 - areas it's ugly it.

04:36 - Another issue that we've talked about on this program but not with you

04:40 - in particular

04:41 - is

04:42 - Anya name image and likeness can you talk about the

04:46 - piano ablaze role in that

04:48 - and what you've seen

04:51 - and

04:51 - since his

04:52 - senses

04:53 - dentist tutored

04:54 - sure it's now been a

04:56 - few years that and i l as is permitted

04:59 - by

05:00 - paytable a student athletes i was a change to our amateur status rule allowing them

05:04 - to take advantage of their name image and likeness

05:07 - i think the.

05:10 - Unanticipated.

05:12 - Role that Anya has played is that you've see it in sports that

05:15 - maybe weren't considered

05:17 - at the onset of this we see a lot of.

05:20 - Female athletes

05:21 - that are sponsored in the sports like track and field or cross country

05:25 - or male athletes in similar sports

05:28 - with the strength of wrestling and in np

05:29 - Pennsylvania we certainly see it there as well

05:32 - but i think as a whole

05:35 - the sky hasn't fallen

05:36 - since the advent of this we certainly weren't the first California goes back to the

05:41 - early to mid two thousands

05:43 - in a relationship that they have with their screen actors guild

05:46 - allowing students to benefit from name image and likeness

05:50 - but

05:51 - i think we've had success in our student athletes have

05:53 - have been able to benefit from it.

05:58 - You mentioned the female athletes so let's talk about the current status of

06:03 - flag football in Pennsylvania where do we stand

06:08 - with flag football as a PR double a sport

06:10 - sure

06:11 - after

06:13 - flag football received a one hundred schools sponsoring

06:16 - law last year the board voted to assume jurisdiction over the sport

06:19 - so it is a piano play sport as we stand this.

06:23 - Twenty five twenty six school year was really a

06:26 - intermediary step

06:28 - that allowed sponsorship at the school level for us to

06:31 - register officials host contests

06:34 - but it concluded with

06:36 - what

06:36 - we would call the regular season but

06:39 - no a championship was held.

06:41 - Memorial day weekend

06:43 - and next year

06:45 - beginning in the spring of twenty seven we

06:47 - will host our first championships and that's

06:49 - scheduled if my memory is correct for

06:52 - June fifth of next year.

06:55 - So it'll be a spring sport

06:58 - a little end around the same time as

07:00 - what we have coming up next weekend with lacrosse and

07:04 - and

07:05 - the other spring sports yes

07:08 - the intention is on that that first weekend following the

07:11 - memorial day holiday where we have track and field and

07:14 - boys his singles and doubles tennis

07:16 - will crown our first

07:17 - girls flag football champion.

07:22 - And the girls wrestling where do we stand with that how how is that going

07:27 - they're awesome

07:28 - i dunno how else to explain it but

07:30 - this has been the third year of the championships

07:33 - certainly came in with fanfare.

07:36 - We adopted the emerging sport

07:38 - policy because of the

07:40 - em media growth of girls wrestling

07:42 - but anyone that's been in attendance at the giant center and seen them compete it

07:47 - certainly is not a novelty they are exceptional athletes they come to compete

07:51 - and we're excited to crown

07:53 - those thirteen champions alongside our boys and both double a and triple a

07:58 - and.

07:59 - Just the the level of ca competition continues to

08:01 - rise on an annual basis and we continue to see a rise

08:05 - in the amount of girls participating.

08:10 - I talk about the

08:13 - one more issue

08:14 - has been

08:15 - officials

08:17 - and

08:18 - how is piazza blade doing when it comes to officials recruitment

08:23 - status levels because we just talked about two new sports

08:26 - and

08:27 - how are we doing with keeping up with

08:29 - the amount of.

08:31 - Of games that have to be officiated

08:33 - sure i

08:34 - i look at

08:35 - girls flag football we now have over or five

08:37 - hundred officials registered for that sport

08:40 - as we continue to see growth across the state

08:43 - you're going to see that number to

08:44 - continue to rise

08:46 - but i'm happy to report that

08:48 - due to the efforts of peg gephardt and Alex Mike it in our office but also

08:53 - individuals that are across the more than four hundred

08:55 - and fifty chapters across the state Accra os all sports

08:59 - we now have over fifteen thousand

09:01 - registrations.

09:03 - It's the highest number that pitiable has ever had

09:06 - and we still need more.

09:10 - So what should someone do if they

09:13 - were interested in becoming an official

09:15 - and and what kinds of

09:16 - people should.

09:18 - Should think about doing this who would be a prime candidate for

09:22 - becoming a piano Billy official you know we run the gamut

09:25 - every

09:26 - individual person every demographic IQ across the state

09:29 - is a registered official.

09:31 - L from

09:32 - whatever walk of life that

09:34 - they decide

09:35 - we've been fortunate we also have a junior officials program so individuals that are

09:39 - currently in school that are sixteen years of age or older.

09:43 - They have the ability to officiate junior high contests

09:46 - those events that have ninth grade or below low

09:49 - so we would certainly welcome that

09:51 - anyone that has an interest not only in

09:54 - athletics

09:55 - but also in supporting their local schools.

09:57 - It's a great way to spend a day

10:00 - and individuals that officiate

10:02 - they're certainly not doing it for the money some of them

10:05 - do well with a number of contests they have but.

10:09 - Occasion

10:10 - is something that they're involved because they love spending

10:12 - time with kids being on the field working with coaches

10:15 - working with their fellow officials

10:17 - so it doesn't matter if you're male female

10:21 - doesn't matter your age demographic

10:23 - anyone that has an active interest in athletics

10:26 - should think about being involved and especially those that may be of ale bullet at

10:30 - three forty five in the afternoon

10:31 - and may be our our.

10:34 - Biggest challenge is the growth in middle school and junior high sports

10:38 - is not only the growth in the number of teams that are taking place but that just

10:41 - brings about a growth in the number of games

10:44 - and for a lot of people that are working nine to five getting there at three forty

10:47 - five in the afternoon can be a challenge.

10:50 - So i would encourage anyone that

10:51 - maybe once a part time job

10:54 - to become a registered official because those afternoons

10:57 - can certainly be worthwhile for him.

11:02 - Before we started you were talking about.

11:05 - Your philosophy when it comes to PR w a and

11:08 - and

11:09 - talk about the the amount of athletes and that you guys have.

11:16 - Effect so at the senior eye level we just ran these reports yesterday so we're about

11:21 - three hundred and twenty three thousand student athletes.

11:24 - That participate but Pennsylvania is unique not every state association our

11:28 - counterparts also have junior high middle school athletes so it's

11:31 - it certainly above that number

11:33 - but

11:34 - the abyss city for those kids.

11:37 - I'll backtrack a little bit court.

11:40 - I think we spend so much time talking about our championships

11:43 - and the twelve teams that are left are the six

11:45 - teams that are left that sometimes we lose sight

11:48 - of

11:49 - the life lessons that are being learned not only in

11:51 - the games throughout the course of the regular season

11:54 - but just spending time in practice which what could be

11:58 - twenty to twenty five

11:59 - of your best friends

12:01 - two hours a day

12:02 - having instruction learning about losing

12:05 - learning about winning how to do both properly that's what

12:09 - i think what gets lost in but what ultimately sets aside

12:12 - interscholastic based athletics

12:14 - is that they are life lessons it's not always just about winning or losing

12:19 - but about about preparing yours well for the future.

12:24 - Alright Mark and before we let you go and

12:27 - our viewers.

12:29 - Who watched our

12:30 - track and field coverage

12:32 - last week may have seen you

12:34 - as part of

12:36 - one of the ceremonies

12:37 - tell us about what happened at the track and field this year with the hall of fame

12:42 - yeah i'm

12:43 - certainly humbled

12:44 - and

12:45 - from someone that never

12:46 - threw a javelin

12:48 - ran you wouldn't want to see me run or jump.

12:51 - Never had any involvement in track and field but i was fortunate enough to be

12:55 - inducted into the Pennsylvania track and field coaches association all a fame

12:59 - because of my involvement in the championships

13:02 - and

13:03 - i had two great mentors Brad cashman and Bob lombardi before me

13:07 - that had a love for track i learned that love

13:09 - the detail of track setting that all up so I've

13:12 - I've been involve.

13:14 - Pretty regularly since two thousand and four.

13:17 - So we talked earlier about

13:18 - loosening the reigns and turning that over to

13:21 - Lindsay barnett this year but working with the coaches working with our officials

13:26 - take what gets lost in that is we have twenty eight hundred athletes.

13:30 - At our track and field championships and they're awesome kids

13:33 - are some of the best students there's some of

13:35 - the best kids that are that are in our schools

13:37 - think when Lindsay ran the numbers seventy four percent of our teams sponsoring track

13:41 - and field had a representative at our championships

13:44 - so for me it's the crown Jewel of our events

13:46 - it's representative of our membership

13:49 - and every year somebody surprises you they're just that good

13:53 - whether it's male or female athletes

13:55 - there's always somebody that's

13:56 - that just

13:57 - sets themselves apart and this year was no different.

14:00 - Having two record set in the rain

14:03 - and they're not ideal

14:04 - conditions

14:06 - but

14:06 - yeah you're kind enough to mention that i went into the hall of fame but that's

14:09 - because of the work of an awful lot more people other than just me

14:13 - i just happened to be along for the ride.

14:17 - Alright well congratulations on your induction and thank you for joining us

14:21 - thank you for having me corp.

14:23 - And now we are excited to be joined by the two fastest women and Pennsylvania.

14:30 - Mariners Smith from

14:32 - cheltenham high school and canal Howard from cedar crest.

14:36 - Ladies thank you both for joining us.

14:39 - America.

14:42 - I counted

14:44 - thirteen i think state metal

14:46 - between the two of you.

14:49 - I.

14:51 - A mirror you've been you've won the the

14:54 - the one hundred

14:55 - and the two hundred at states

14:58 - three years in a row yes and

15:01 - cadel.

15:02 - Cadel has won the four hundred.

15:06 - Every year she's ever on it at states.

15:12 - Could I'll talk about

15:14 - your mindset going into

15:16 - do.

15:17 - States this year because you

15:20 - you you set a record at district so let's go back to districts.

15:24 - The week before

15:25 - and

15:26 - how did you feel.

15:29 - When you.

15:30 - Were running at districts and you had to that

15:33 - he had

15:34 - the greatest

15:35 - run of your life.

15:37 - Well i guess Jake's

15:39 - i wasn't planning on actually running that fast spray.

15:44 - I just wanted to keep their legs

15:45 - in control just like keep

15:47 - save my legs for an estate me

15:49 - back

15:51 - and as i got out during the four hundred

15:53 - felt like i just felt really good sounds like okay remittance keep pushing.

15:58 - The orange Mark i seen

16:00 - the time and i'm like okay this is really fast i was like okay.

16:05 - For directors

16:06 - not just minus

16:08 - and

16:08 - then after sir.

16:11 - So you actually took a peek at the clock and

16:13 - pushed through the end to try to get that record

16:17 - yeah.

16:20 - But you mentioned you said you didn't want to go that hard so is there a mental thing

16:24 - of i'm going to save a little bit for states because i know i can win here.

16:31 - That was really that was

16:33 - my intention at share

16:34 - but then like

16:36 - as i was like running you know i just was in a different mode i was like okay

16:41 - you know this race is going really well it's no

16:43 - minor scratches leave it.

16:45 - All on Jack rayner.

16:49 - Amir let's talk about your approach

16:52 - because you run the one hundred and the two hundred

16:56 - and

16:56 - you also one

16:58 - at districts so do you ever think okay

17:01 - let me save a little bit for states because like i gotta keep my streak going.

17:06 - Yes.

17:08 - For

17:08 - especially the premiums they don't rewind

17:10 - as hard to for the finals for

17:13 - this year i knew that i had to

17:15 - make

17:16 - a statement because indra was hurt

17:18 - so i just wanted to think about their interest.

17:21 - In

17:21 - that area.

17:24 - What was the injury.

17:26 - My hamstring.

17:30 - I had a

17:31 - very genuine stream

17:33 - i think.

17:36 - And how long did it take you to come back from that.

17:39 - I say like a mug.

17:42 - Around there.

17:46 - So that i see a parallel here because cadel you set that record at districts

17:51 - and then you had a hamstring issue so i think you

17:54 - guys are running a little too fast for your hamstrings

17:57 - so can

17:58 - tell us about your injury when that happened and.

18:03 - How you came back for from that.

18:06 - So my injury it was actually during

18:10 - it happened during a four by four which was the last race and like i was already

18:15 - doing a lot of running cars to four hundred

18:17 - prelims to two hundred

18:18 - prelims

18:19 - so by the time i did the former Friday ran four races before that and

18:24 - i know i know my hamstring was feeling a little take so

18:27 - as soon as i got out i would say

18:29 - yeah

18:30 - it was just time

18:32 - so.

18:34 - But

18:34 - my goal was to just drink stay

18:37 - healthy

18:37 - like

18:38 - not

18:39 - do too much on it just to

18:41 - at least be able to

18:43 - differentiate

18:44 - estates i knew i wasn't going to be good for

18:46 - two hundred but as long as i got ready for

18:49 - it four hundred just to be able to bring back another title

18:52 - that was just typical.

18:56 - So Amir I'll bring you back in here did you know that was

18:58 - going on with her because you guys were set to face off

19:02 - in the two hundred at states you both

19:05 - the number one and two top qualifying times at your districts the week before

19:10 - did you know that was going on with her what did you

19:12 - what did you know about her and the two ha hundred.

19:15 - I

19:15 - said text

19:16 - well we have a group chat

19:18 - with our

19:19 - other teammates i don't see anyone and look like

19:22 - so see why she said it we all felt

19:24 - bad about it so

19:26 - she was like i'm not going around getting

19:28 - hijacked because i don't want to put any more.

19:31 - Stress on my hamstring.

19:33 - Fat or let me know

19:35 - she could have won the floor and again the flash that was

19:38 - you know.

19:39 - Is is here.

19:41 - Alright so the obvious question i have to ask is.

19:45 - If she's at full strength who wins the two hundred at states.

19:52 - I dunno.

19:53 - It depends on the

19:55 - language

19:56 - i mean like two hundred like last year indoor it was close.

20:01 - It really just depends like

20:03 - celebrities feel in the past

20:04 - exactly

20:05 - exactly.

20:09 - You guys are

20:10 - are

20:10 - modest and i appreciate that

20:13 - you're going to be teammates next year we

20:14 - you can settle all those things at practice

20:18 - in Florida so.

20:19 - That reminds me you both are headed to Florida

20:23 - and also you were telling me earlier before we started that

20:26 - you guys kind of

20:28 - even more than that a mirror where did you where did you first meet canal.

20:32 - On the track at a season Iran for my area she ran for high level.

20:39 - And cuddle how old were you guys.

20:43 - I say like.

20:44 - Nine

20:45 - return.

20:47 - I dunno

20:48 - can't really remember.

20:51 - Long ago.

20:54 - So this relationship goes back quite a ways i

20:58 - have how many times have you actually

21:00 - gone up against each other.

21:03 - I don't think we were in the same age group

21:06 - so cause the way they did it was like.

21:09 - Like nine ten eleven twelve and.

21:13 - It was like two years.

21:15 - Each time and i'm.

21:17 - On top and she's on the bottom so it was like

21:20 - yeah

21:20 - yeah.

21:24 - Alright so how does Florida yet the two fastest Pennsylvania and.

21:30 - Girls in the state that.

21:32 - Talk about how

21:34 - you ended up

21:35 - making that decision to marry you first.

21:38 - I just love the coaches

21:40 - love the team

21:42 - and love the people that i won't

21:44 - do it which was can do in Seattle so i was just

21:46 - like yeah this is where i want to be at this is

21:49 - my new home.

21:52 - You.

21:54 - Can tell your thoughts on Florida and how and how recruiting went there.

21:59 - Yeah i feel like it's the same for me like the coaches

22:03 - are all like friendly to me

22:05 - you know they always stayed in touch with me no matter

22:07 - what

22:08 - and

22:09 - the team the team was amazing Bonnie well as everyone and.

22:14 - Yeah and then the people that i went with yup

22:17 - Amir and sione

22:19 - they just made the visit more enjoyable

22:21 - i didn't know

22:22 - that they were going to

22:23 - commit to Florida so it wasn't planned

22:26 - but.

22:27 - I started feeling.

22:32 - What's that a mirror.

22:34 - Oh i was just relaxing.

22:41 - Suck Adele let's go back to the

22:44 - states we we mention that.

22:46 - You know we televise the race

22:48 - and we could see that

22:50 - you want it but then immediately you were holding that

22:53 - that that leg that hamstring you had a brace on there

22:56 - and then then.

22:58 - When we saw you on the podium

23:00 - you didn't crack a smile you didn't seem very happy so what was going through your

23:04 - mind there i mean you had won the gold

23:07 - but you seemed a little disappointed.

23:10 - I.

23:12 - Well it was already cold and it was raining so

23:15 - i already killed my mood

23:17 - and then no i knew

23:19 - i wasn't.

23:21 - Really happy with my time

23:23 - and not because it's like

23:24 - that's all.

23:26 - I could do

23:27 - but you know i just had to

23:29 - save my like you know

23:31 - just to be

23:31 - ready for nationals so.

23:34 - It was

23:35 - what was the look i really could do about it so

23:38 - but i know i could do that i knew i could have

23:40 - done better my leg

23:41 - was healthy so.

23:44 - Holding yourself to a very high standard there

23:48 - so you mentioned nationals is that what's

23:50 - next for both of you a mirror what's next for you

23:53 - or you

23:53 - know you graduated from cheltenham last night

23:56 - what's next for you on the track.

23:58 - I'm actually going to the books PR invitational

24:01 - this weekend so I'll be running there.

24:07 - And could tell you mentioned nationals when is that

24:10 - an r and how's the hamstring.

24:13 - So for me i started running so

24:15 - i'm just taking it like.

24:17 - Little steps at a time and nationalist is June sending

24:22 - teams

24:23 - to the twenty second

24:25 - and i'm doing a four hundred

24:28 - what

24:28 - you

24:29 - doing Nike

24:30 - but your twenties and Nike are

24:32 - at

24:33 - the same place

24:34 - and i'm doing the funding for your twenties and i'm doing it two hundred for.

24:39 - The high school for

24:40 - Nike.

24:44 - So when does the transition happen and you both can chime in here and you're

24:49 - technically i think canal you graduate today correct

24:53 - yeah.

24:55 - Yeah thank you for for coming on i know it's been a very busy week

24:58 - trying to get

24:59 - hold of both of your proved very difficult

25:02 - what does the transition begin

25:04 - to you being gators went

25:07 - how much longer are you technically a high school athlete.

25:13 - While we go there for like our summer session.

25:17 - June twenty third so there's not much time left.

25:21 - Yeah.

25:22 - So after nationals i fly right through Florida.

25:29 - Alright so

25:31 - what are we looking forward to in

25:33 - Florida do we know

25:35 - what events you'll be running with

25:37 - i mean you're coming in with this and this resume of all these state championships in

25:43 - your respective races Samir a

25:45 - three straight.

25:47 - In the two hundred and one and one hundred and canal four straight in

25:52 - the four hundred so

25:54 - a mirror what are we looking for

25:56 - for you at the next level what events.

26:00 - One hundred and two hundred and.

26:02 - Of course the relay

26:04 - plus maybe launch up again

26:06 - i want to try it.

26:10 - Yeah not to overlook you did you did podium in

26:14 - long jump at states

26:16 - your freshman year i think

26:18 - yes

26:18 - but then did you just stop focusing on the field stuff.

26:24 - Yeah i wasn't really getting coached

26:25 - so i'm like i might as well just focus on the track push and

26:29 - push.

26:32 - And cadet what about you at Florida where where where will the gators have you go and

26:36 - obviously the four hundred but anything else.

26:40 - I

26:41 - probably two hundred as well and i noted for my flair

26:44 - for sure.

26:48 - Four by four okay so is there any chance that we'll get.

26:52 - The two of you in a relay or something like that

26:55 - down in Florida.

26:57 - I

26:58 - put what i want.

27:00 - Oh

27:01 - they did four by four.

27:03 - Ooh

27:04 - we

27:05 - didn't do it for one hundred or so.

27:08 - Somebody's going to have to go up.

27:11 - She's going down that one hundred thank you.

27:14 - Know but

27:15 - she's already been doing it for about four years

27:17 - she'd at least like ten for about four years this year

27:20 - so i feel like she got a good foundation

27:23 - and so she can.

27:26 - Done any for my one so i can't go that really

27:28 - going to get your ready for that but i want to

27:30 - at all.

27:33 - Alright

27:34 - well that's great.

27:35 - Ladies you can have these conversations because

27:37 - as you told me you're both going to be roommates

27:40 - at Florida so hopefully

27:42 - we'll see who can convince whom

27:44 - to either go up or come down to run those relies so

27:47 - i want to thank

27:48 - both of the two fastest women in Pennsylvania i'm Aaron nesmith

27:52 - and Kendall Howard thank you so much and best of luck to you in your future endeavors

27:56 - don't forget about Pennsylvania

27:58 - down there in Florida.

28:01 - Have a nice yes.

28:04 - Alright well thanks

28:05 - to Mark buyers who joined us earlier and thank you

28:09 - for joining us inside the lines

28:11 - i'm Corey Clark

28:12 - goodnight.


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