00:06 - >>THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS

00:07 - SPONSORED IN PART BY CUSTOMERS.

00:10 - BANK.

00:22 - >>WELCOME TO THE PCN CAPITAL

00:26 - WHERE KASPER TODAY WILL BE

00:27 - TALKING ABOUT FUNDING FOR

00:31 - EDUCATION IN PENNSYLVANIA.

00:31 - BUT FIRST, WE'RE JOINED BY

00:32 - HANNA WEBSTER HEALTH REPORTER

00:34 - AT THE PITTSBURGH POST. IS THAT

00:37 - WELCOME? HANNAH?

00:38 - THANKS FOR HAVING ME. YOU FILED

00:41 - A STORY ABOUT A COURT RULING

00:42 - THAT SAYS BANNING THE USE OF

00:44 - MEDICAID FUNDS FOR ABORTION

00:47 - IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. HOW DID

00:47 - THE COURT ARRIVE AT THIS

00:50 - DECISION?

00:52 - >>YEAH, SO IT'S BEEN A PRETTY

00:53 - INVOLVED LEGAL PROCESS. THIS

00:56 - GOES BACK TO 2019 WHEN

00:57 - ALLEGHENY REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH

01:00 - CARE CENTER, ABORTION PROVIDER

01:03 - AND REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CLINIC

01:06 - IN PITTSBURGH AND A BUNCH OF

01:07 - OTHER PLANNED PARENTHOOD SUED

01:08 - THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN

01:11 - SERVICES

01:15 - >>SAYING THAT IT WAS

01:15 - ESSENTIALLY AMOUNTED TO SEX

01:16 - BASED DISCRIMINATION TO NOT

01:20 - ALLOW MEDICAID FUNDING

01:20 - FOR REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE,

01:22 - INCLUDING ABORTION, THAT IT

01:24 - VIOLATED THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY

01:26 - ACT OR EQUAL RIGHTS ACT RIGHT?

01:27 - >>AND SO THIS CASE HAS BEEN

01:31 - GOING THROUGH THE COURTS AND

01:33 - THE COMMONWEALTH COURT, WHICH

01:34 - IS A PENNSYLVANIA COURT RULED

01:38 - 43 ON APRIL. 20TH THAT IT IN

01:41 - FAVOR OF THE RULING

01:42 - ESSENTIALLY. SO THEY AGREED

01:42 - IT WAS SEX BASED

01:43 - DISCRIMINATION. THEY CALLED

01:45 - CUTTING OUT MEDICAID PATIENTS

01:49 - UNCONSTITUTIONAL. SO THAT

01:50 - HAPPENED. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

01:52 - HAD A MONTH TO RESPOND. HE

01:56 - RESPONDED AND APPEAL THAT.

01:57 - >>CONTINUE PICK UP THAT THREAD.

01:59 - HANNAH WHITE IS ATTORNEY

02:00 - GENERAL DAVE SUNDAY APPEALING

02:02 - THIS CASE.

02:05 - >>I CAN'T SPECULATE ON WHAT'S

02:07 - GOING ON IN HIS MIND. BUT THAT

02:08 - STATEMENT THAT WE ARE THAT WE

02:11 - GOT FROM HIM WAS THAT, YOU

02:12 - KNOW, HE IS THE TOP LAW

02:13 - ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR THE

02:16 - STATE. HE'S IN CONTROL OF THE

02:17 - LAWS THAT ARE INTERPRETED AND

02:20 - THEY GET IN PLACE. SO HE SAID

02:21 - THAT HIS RESPONSIBILITY WAS TO

02:23 - DEFEND THE RULE OF LAW AND TO

02:24 - DEFEND STATUTES. AND HE SAID,

02:25 - QUOTE, WITHOUT INTERFERENCE OF

02:27 - PERSONAL OPINION OR POLITICAL

02:29 - POSTURING. AND SO HE SEES IT AS

02:30 - HIS OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE

02:31 - THAT THE LAWS AND IN

02:32 - PENNSYLVANIA, YOU KNOW, ARE

02:34 - UPHOLDING THE CONSTITUTION.

02:38 - IF IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE

02:39 - INVOLVED IN WHILE HE APPEALED

02:40 - THAT, I'M YOU KNOW, I'M NOT

02:41 - ENTIRELY SURE. BUT BUT THAT WAS

02:44 - THE STATEMENT THAT HE GAVE US.

02:45 - >>SO HAVE THAT FROM READING

02:48 - YOUR STORY CORRECTLY. THEN

02:49 - SUNDAY SAYING HE HAS TO DEFEND

02:52 - A LAW THAT IS FOUND

02:53 - UNCONSTITUTIONAL BY THE COURT.

02:54 - BUT NOT EVERYONE IS IN

02:56 - AGREEMENT WITH HIM.

03:03 - WHO IS GOING TO TAKE ISSUE WITH

03:04 - THIS. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S

03:05 - SOMETHING CALLED THE WOMEN'S

03:05 - LAW PROJECT THAT SAYS THAT

03:06 - SUNDAY DOESN'T HAVE TO DO THIS.

03:11 - >>THE WOMEN'S LAW PROJECT AND

03:14 - THEY HAD SOME STAFF TRAINED

03:14 - LAWYERS THERE. AND THEY ARE,

03:17 - YOU KNOW, IN SUPPORT OF

03:18 - REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. AND YET

03:19 - THEY SAID IT'S THE HE'S UNDER

03:21 - NO OBLIGATION TO THERE'S

03:23 - NOTHING ENDED AND THE ATTORNEY

03:25 - GENERAL'S ACT THAT SAYS THAT

03:27 - HE HAS TO DO THIS, PARTICULARLY

03:30 - BECAUSE THE CURRENT

03:31 - COVID WORK US EXCUSE ME.

03:34 - COMMONWEALTH COURT HAS

03:35 - ALREADY RULED 43

03:36 - UNCONSTITUTIONAL. AND YOU KNOW,

03:37 - THERE HAVE THERE THE JUDGES.

03:41 - SAID THEIR DISSENTING.

03:42 - ARGUMENTS AND SOME OF THAT WAS

03:43 - THAT THIS WOULD BE A BURDEN

03:47 - ON TAXPAYERS OR AND THEN SOME

03:50 - OF THEM HAD, YOU KNOW,

03:50 - ANTI-ABORTION STANCES IN THEIR

03:53 - DISSENTING OPINIONS. THE

03:57 - COURT JUDGES. BUT YEAH, SOME

03:58 - SOME PEOPLE, ABORTION ADVOCATES

03:59 - AND SOME LAWYERS SAY THAT THIS

04:00 - IS NOT REALLY IN LINE WITH THE

04:00 - LAW.

04:04 - >>AND

04:04 - >>LET'S GO BACK TO THE

04:05 - STATEMENT, HANNAH, THAT YOU

04:08 - SAID YOU GOT FROM SUNDAY'S

04:09 - OFFICE AND TRYING TO MAKE THIS

04:11 - EASY FOR US IN ON LEGAL TYPES

04:12 - TO UNDERSTAND IT IS SUNDAY

04:14 - SAYING THAT HE BELIEVES THE

04:15 - COURT GOT IT WRONG OR IS IT

04:18 - SOMETHING ELSE?

04:25 - I'M NOT SURE. I UNDERSTAND.

04:26 - YEAH, BECAUSE HE INSISTS THAT

04:27 - IT'S HIS DUTY TO DO THIS

04:30 - ANYWAY.

04:36 - THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT ANY WAY

04:37 - THE IMPORTANCE OF MEDICAID

04:39 - FUNDING FOR LOW-INCOME

04:39 - PENNSYLVANIANS JUST TO GIVE

04:41 - SOME YEAH PERSPECTIVE ON THIS

04:44 - STORY.

04:44 - >>3 MILLION PENNSYLVANIANS ARE

04:48 - ON MEDICAID, AN ALLEGHENY

04:49 - COUNTY WHERE I REPORT FROM THAT

04:52 - ONE IN 5 RESIDENTS, IT COVERS A

04:56 - 3RD OF ALL BIRDS. AN IN THE

04:57 - STATE. AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW,

04:58 - IT'S HELPING PEOPLE HAVE

04:59 - BABIES. IT'S HELPING PEOPLE

05:02 - WITH REPRODUCTIVE CARE AND IT'S

05:03 - REALLY IMPORTANT LIFELINE FOR

05:04 - PEOPLE WHO ARE LOW INCOME

05:07 - PEOPLE WHO ARE

05:11 - BETWEEN JOBS. AND SO THAT'S WHY

05:11 - A LOT OF THESE ADVOCATES ARE A

05:12 - LITTLE BIT UP IN ARMS ABOUT

05:15 - THE APPEAL BECAUSE IT COVERS SO

05:16 - MANY PENNSYLVANIANS. IT'S NOT

05:17 - LIKE IT'S ONE PERCENT OF THE

05:18 - POPULATION ARE 0.5% OF THE

05:20 - POPULATION.

05:22 - >>I HAD TO TRY TO SUMMARIZE

05:23 - FOR US THAN THE ISSUE THAT IS

05:25 - BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT

05:26 - BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO

05:26 - ADDRESS THIS MATTER NEXT.

05:28 - RIGHT?

05:29 - >>YES, YES. THIS GOES BACK TO

05:33 - THE SUPREME COURT. THE STATE

05:34 - SUPREME COURT, AND THEY HAVE

05:36 - ALREADY RULED IN FAVOR OF

05:37 - ABORTION FOR 2024, THEY RULED

05:39 - IN FAVOR OF ABORTION. AND SO,

05:42 - YOU KNOW.

05:43 - WE CAN'T PREDICT ENTIRELY

05:46 - WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THEY

05:47 - COULD RULE IN FAVOR OF ABORTION

05:48 - AGAIN AND JUST SETTLE THE CASE.

05:52 - BUT IT REALLY CREATES A LOT

05:55 - OF LEGISLATIVE INVOLVEMENT.

05:58 - 7 CHAOS RIGHT FOR PATIENTS AND

06:00 - FOR FOR ADVOCATES WHO MAYBE NOT

06:02 - OKAY, MAYBE AREN'T WORKING

06:04 - DIRECTLY WITH INSURANCE

06:04 - COMPANIES TO UNDERSTAND BILLING

06:07 - CODES AND ALL OF THAT IS

06:09 - ABORTION. LEGAL IS MEDICAID.

06:10 - ABORTION IS LEGAL. BUT YOU

06:13 - KNOW, IS MEDICAID FUNDING

06:15 - COVERED FOR IT? WHO WHO IS

06:18 - UNDER THAT?

06:19 - ALL THESE QUESTIONS THAT

06:20 - PATIENTS AND ADVOCATES ARE

06:21 - HAVING TO ASK THEMSELVES.

06:21 - IT'S CREATING A LITTLE BIT.

06:24 - I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LEGAL

06:27 - FIGHT THAT ANYONE ANY ONE

06:30 - PERSON WITHOUT A

06:31 - LAW BACKGROUND STRUGGLES TO

06:32 - UNDERSTAND MYSELF INCLUDED.

06:32 - WHEN I WAS WRITING THE STORY, I

06:33 - HAD TO REALLY GRASP IT RIGHT.

06:36 - >>AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE

06:37 - YOUR HELP IN TRYING TO

06:40 - COMPREHEND THIS ISSUE. SO GIVEN

06:42 - WHERE ALL THIS LEGAL BACK AND

06:44 - FORTH, I DON'T WANT OUR VIEWERS

06:46 - TO GET CONFUSED. IN OTHER

06:47 - WORDS, WHERE DOES THE LAW STAND

06:48 - AT THIS MOMENT FOR USING

06:48 - MEDICAID FUNDS FOR ABORTION?

06:51 - >>YEAH. SO THE DEPARTMENT OF

06:52 - HUMAN SERVICES HAVE SAID THAT

06:56 - THEY ARE SORT OF WORKING WITHIN

06:57 - THE BOUNDS OF THE LAW TO UPDATE

06:59 - THEIR SYSTEM FOR MEDICAID

07:01 - BILLING. AND SO. I WOULDN'T SAY

07:05 - THAT IT'S AND AT THIS MOMENT,

07:06 - YOU KNOW, THE LAWS ARE SLOW

07:10 - THAT WAY. I

07:11 - I CAN'T SPECULATE ON IT.

07:12 - SOMEONE WITH MEDICAID WALKED

07:14 - INTO A PLANNED PARENTHOOD TODAY

07:14 - WHETHER THEY WOULD BE IT.

07:19 - YOU KNOW. RING RING IN THE DOOR

07:21 - BECAUSE OF HOW SLOWLY THESE

07:22 - PROCESSES TO PLAY OUT. BUT

07:23 - ABORTION IS LEGAL IN

07:24 - PENNSYLVANIA. I BELIEVE WE'RE

07:26 - GOING TO GO, YOU KNOW, UP TO.

07:30 - 20 WHAT IS AT 24 WEEKS, CORRECT

07:34 - ME IF I'M WRONG

07:36 - AND SO SO WE'RE WE'RE GOOD TO

07:38 - GO AT THIS MOMENT. IT WILL

07:41 - DEPEND ON HOW THE STATE SUPREME

07:42 - COURT.

07:42 - >>RULES UNDERSTOOD. OKAY.

07:44 - THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE.

07:45 - HANNA WEBSTER HEALTH REPORTER

07:46 - AT THE PITTSBURGH POST GAZETTE.

07:50 - >>THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

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09:03 - TODAY ARE MY MIC SICK

09:04 - EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

09:07 - >>OF THE PA U.S. AND THE

09:07 - EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CHILDREN

09:10 - FIRST PA.

09:12 - >>MARCUS HEIGHT, EXECUTIVE

09:13 - DIRECTOR OF THE PA CESSATION OF

09:15 - PUBLIC CYBER CHARTER SCHOOLS.

09:19 - AND ERIN CHAPIN, PRESIDENT OF

09:23 - THE PA STATE EDUCATION

09:24 - ASSOCIATION. WELCOME AT ONE

09:25 - POINT. AND LET'S START WITH

09:27 - YOU. HOW MUCH RELIANCE 2

09:29 - SCHOOLS HAVE ON FUNDING FROM

09:30 - THE STATE? WELL, THANKS FOR

09:32 - HAVING ME. IT'S EXTREMELY

09:33 - IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY

09:36 - IN COMMUNITIES AROUND THE

09:37 - COMMONWEALTH.

09:37 - >>THERE ARE COMMUNITIES TAX

09:39 - BASES THAT ARE THAT ARE BEING

09:41 - USED. BUT IT THE COMMUNITY'S

09:42 - CAMP COVER EVERYTHING IN THERE

09:42 - IS A CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATION

09:45 - FOR THE STATE TO BE MAKING SURE

09:47 - THAT OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN

09:48 - PENNSYLVANIA ARE BEING FUNDED

09:49 - PROPERLY. AND OF COURSE,

09:52 - THROUGHOUT THE STATE, AS WE'VE

09:53 - SEEN FOR MANY DECADES, THERE

09:53 - ARE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE

09:55 - BEEN IMPROPERLY AND

09:57 - UNCONSTITUTIONALLY FUNDED.

10:00 - BUT THE PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR

10:00 - PLAYS A HUGE ROLE IN THE

10:01 - EDUCATION OF OUR STUDENTS

10:03 - ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH.

10:06 - I HAD TO USE IT.

10:07 - >>WELL, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE

10:11 - K 12 SYSTEM. I SEE IT AS JUST

10:13 - AS IMPORTANT FOR THE STATE BE

10:13 - CONTRIBUTING TO OUR EARLY CHILD

10:14 - EDUCATION SYSTEM AS WELL.

10:18 - MAKING SURE THAT OUR CHILDREN

10:18 - ARE PREPARED TO ENTER THE

10:19 - SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THEIR

10:21 - COMMUNITIES.

10:23 - >>AND MARCUS, SO WHAT ABOUT THE

10:25 - VIEW FROM THE CHARTER, THE

10:25 - CYBER CHARTER SCHOOL? SHERWOOD?

10:26 - THANK YOU AGAIN, LARRY, FOR THE

10:29 - TIME OF DAY, I AGREE WITH WITH

10:29 - THEIR OWN IS, YOU KNOW,

10:30 - EDUCATION DOES HAVE A BIG

10:31 - COMPONENT. BUT I THINK WE ALSO

10:34 - GOT A MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE

10:35 - HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR

10:37 - PARENTS TO MAKE THAT CHOICE AS

10:38 - TO WHAT IS THE BEST EDUCATIONAL

10:39 - OPPORTUNITY. AND WHEN YOU KIND

10:43 - OF LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE

10:44 - UNDER PENNSYLVANIA LAW, CYBER

10:45 - CHARTER SCHOOLS, BRICKS AND

10:46 - MORTAR CHARTER SCHOOLS. THEY

10:48 - ARE CONSIDERED PUBLIC SCHOOL

10:49 - DISTRICTS. SO I THINK, YOU

10:49 - KNOW, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO

10:52 - SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE JUST

10:54 - LOOKING FOR A FAIR PLAYING

10:55 - FIELD TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY

10:57 - STUDENT, EVERY CHILD IN

10:58 - PENNSYLVANIA GETS THAT

10:58 - OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BEST

11:01 - EDUCATION POSSIBLE FOR THEM.

11:02 - >>AND MARCUS, KEEP THE FLOOR

11:03 - FOR A MOMENT AND CONSIDER

11:05 - WHAT'S THE CORRELATION? WOULD

11:05 - YOU SAY BETWEEN FUNDING AND

11:08 - STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT?

11:09 - >>SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

11:10 - AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE IS

11:13 - THAT KIND OF IDEA OUT THERE

11:16 - THAT CYBER CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE

11:16 - A LITTLE BIT BEHIND. WE'VE SEEN

11:19 - THE RESULTS, BUT I THINK ONE

11:20 - OF THE MISSING FACTS WITH THIS

11:23 - IS LARRY, IS A LOT OF THE

11:24 - STUDENTS THAT ARE COMING INTO

11:27 - CYBER CHARTER ARE COMING IN

11:27 - FROM PROGRAMS WHERE THERE ARE

11:29 - 2, 3, 4, 5, YEARS BEHIND HER

11:30 - COHORTS. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE

11:33 - IT UP. SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF

11:35 - THE THINGS IS, DO I REALLY

11:36 - THINK THAT THE PEM SYSTEM OR

11:37 - WHAT IS USED BY PD IS A CORRECT

11:40 - MEASUREMENT OF SUCCESS? A

11:41 - LITTLE BIT UP IN THE AIR ON

11:41 - THAT. BUT I THINK WHAT WE HAVE

11:45 - TO LOOK AT IS WHEN THESE

11:46 - STUDENTS ARE COMING IN THERE,

11:47 - GETTING THE EDUCATION THEY

11:48 - NEED. AND IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE

11:49 - LEAVING THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF

11:51 - FUNDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

11:51 - THEY'RE LEAVING NEW SCHOOLS

11:55 - BECAUSE OF IDEAS OF BULLYING,

11:59 - IUP SERVICES. AND I THINK

12:00 - THAT'S THE THAT'S THE THING

12:00 - THAT WE WANT TO GET BACK TO

12:01 - HER. THAT'S THE FOUNDATION IS.

12:05 - THE RIGHT OF A PARENT TO CHOOSE

12:07 - WHAT IS THE BEST EDUCATIONAL

12:08 - ENVIRONMENT SHOULD BE WITH THE

12:09 - PARENT. AND HIS REMARKABLE IS

12:09 - THAT SECOND ITEM ON UP SERVICE

12:14 - YOU PLEASE.

12:14 - >>IF THEY HAVE AN IEP

12:15 - SURPRISINGLY, KATE, YES, SIR.

12:16 - YES, WILL BE SEE WHAT THAT IS.

12:19 - IS IF A STUDENT HAS SOME TYPE

12:21 - OF CORRECTIONAL, WE'RE HAVE

12:21 - SOME TYPE OF DISABILITY THAT

12:24 - THEY NEED THAT THAT'S WHERE

12:25 - THEY'RE FUNNY. SOME

12:25 - OPPORTUNITIES. AND THE LAST

12:28 - THING I'LL SAY IS, YOU KNOW,

12:29 - THERE ARE SOME KIND OF THE IDEA

12:31 - OUT THERE THAT CYBER CHARTER IS

12:32 - TRYING TO MOVE PUBLIC SCHOOL

12:34 - DISTRICTS AWAY, ACTUALLY NOT.

12:35 - YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WE

12:38 - REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT IS HOW

12:39 - CAN WE CREATE AN EDUCATIONAL

12:40 - ENVIRONMENT WHERE ALL STUDENTS

12:42 - CAN SUCCEED IN IN PENNSYLVANIA?

12:43 - AND I THINK IT'S A

12:43 - COLLABORATION THAT COULD

12:46 - HAPPEN.

12:47 - >>I THINK YOU SEE WHAT I'M

12:48 - GETTING AT IS THEY'RE

12:51 - NECESSARILY A CONNECTION

12:51 - BETWEEN AND ABUNDANCE OF

12:53 - FUNDING AND STUDENT

12:55 - ACHIEVEMENT.

12:58 - >>I MEAN, I HONESTLY DON'T

13:01 - THINK IT'S AN IDEA THAT CYBER

13:02 - CHARTERS ARE UNDERPERFORMING

13:04 - OR NOT SERVING THEIR KIDS AS

13:07 - WELL. I MEAN, THE FACTS ARE

13:07 - THEY ARE SOME OF THE LOWEST

13:09 - PERFORMING SCHOOLS IN THIS

13:10 - COMMONWEALTH. AND WE WANT TO

13:12 - MAKE SURE THAT CHILDREN WHO

13:13 - ARE IN THOSE SCHOOL STUDENTS

13:16 - THAT ARE IN THEIR SCHOOLS ARE

13:16 - GETTING THE SAME EDUCATION AS

13:19 - THEIR PEERS IN BRICK AND MORTAR

13:23 - PUBLIC SCHOOLS. WELL, AARON,

13:23 - BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION.

13:26 - THEN IS MORE FUNDING

13:26 - NECESSARILY GOING TO TRANSLATE

13:29 - INTO BETTER STUDENT

13:30 - ACHIEVEMENT? WELL, ABSOLUTELY.

13:31 - LOOK, YOU KNOW, OUR PUBLIC

13:32 - SCHOOLS IN PENNSYLVANIA, WE

13:34 - SERVICE 1.7 MILLION STUDENTS.

13:36 - >>AND OUR SCHOOLS ACROSS THE

13:37 - COMMONWEALTH. THEY DO AMAZING

13:37 - THINGS. BUT LET'S BE FRANK

13:41 - ABOUT IT. IS THAT, WELL, WE

13:43 - DO NEED MORE FUNDING AND FIELD.

13:44 - THE COMMONWEALTH COURT BACK

13:45 - IN 2023. SAID THAT IN OUR

13:49 - SCHOOLS ARE BEING DRASTICALLY

13:49 - UNDERFUNDED AND THE BASIC, YOU

13:51 - KNOW, WE HAD A FUNDING

13:52 - COMMISSION THAT THAT AGREED.

13:52 - AND SO FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS

13:55 - WE'VE SEEN LEGISLATORS AND THE

13:57 - GOVERNOR STEP UP AND PROVIDE

13:58 - THESE RESOURCES THAT ARE LONG

14:01 - OVERDUE. WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW,

14:02 - DECADES WHERE OUR STUDENTS JUST

14:02 - HAVE NOT BEEN RECEIVING THE

14:05 - FUNDING THEY NEED. ABSOLUTELY.

14:07 - IF WE PROVIDE OUR SCHOOLS, OUR

14:09 - EDUCATORS, OUR SUPPORT STAFF

14:10 - WITH THE MONEY THAT THEY REALLY

14:11 - NEED TO EDUCATE OUR STUDENTS.

14:14 - WE WOULD SEE EVEN GREATER

14:15 - AMAZING RESULTS. AND THAT'S

14:16 - JUST WHAT IT IS. WE WE NEED

14:18 - TO PROVIDE THE RESOURCES THAT

14:21 - WE CAN PROVIDE MORE STAFF.

14:22 - WE NEED TO BUILD PROVIDE MORE

14:24 - PROGRAMS AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE

14:26 - EVEN GREATER RESULTS OUT OF OUR

14:26 - PUBLIC SCHOOL. SO, YEAH, IT'S

14:27 - WHAT OUR KIDS DESERVE. WE JUST

14:30 - NEED

14:30 - MORE RESOURCES.

14:30 - >>WELL, AARON, WE'RE ONLY A

14:32 - FEW MINUTES AND A PROGRAMMING

14:32 - ARMY. YOU MENTIONED TWICE THE

14:35 - 2023 COMMONWEALTH COURT RULING

14:38 - THAT RULE THAT PA SYSTEM OF

14:38 - FUNDING WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

14:39 - CAN YOU GIVE US SOME DETAILS

14:40 - BEYOND THAT? WAS THERE SOME

14:44 - KIND OF REMEDY RECOMMENDED BY

14:45 - THE CAR SHORT. SO WE HAD SOME

14:46 - SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT FILED

14:49 - A LAWSUIT.

14:50 - >>AND THE COMMONWEALTH COURT

14:52 - DECIDED, LOOK, THEY LOOK BACK

14:53 - AND THEY'VE SEEN FOR DECADES

14:55 - GENERATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD

14:56 - CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, WHETHER

14:56 - IT'S RURAL OR SUBURBAN OR EVEN

14:57 - URBAN DISTRICTS WHERE THEY'VE

15:01 - JUST BEEN UNDERFUNDED FOR FOR

15:02 - JUST GENERATIONS. AND THE

15:03 - STUDENTS HAVE BEEN BEHIND THE 8

15:07 - BALL FOR SO LONG

15:07 - AND SO WE THEN HAD A FUNDING

15:10 - COMMISSION THAT TRAVEL ACROSS

15:14 - THE STATE. THEY HAD HEARINGS IN

15:15 - EVERY DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW,

15:15 - DIFFERENT CORNER OF THE

15:16 - COMMONWEALTH WHERE THEY HAD

15:17 - EXPERTS COME IN FROM SCHOOL

15:18 - DISTRICTS OR DIFFERENT VANTAGE

15:20 - POINTS. AND ONCE THAT THE

15:23 - HEARINGS WERE DONE, THEY ISSUED

15:26 - AN OPINION. THEN AT

15:26 - THAT POINT ARE THE YOU KNOW,

15:28 - THE LEGISLATORS IN

15:28 - PENNSYLVANIA, THEY STEPPED UP

15:30 - TO THEM, START TO HAVE SOME

15:34 - STATE BUDGETS STARTING WITH

15:35 - GOVERNOR SHAPIRO'S A FEW YEARS

15:36 - AGO SAYING WE NEED TO INVEST

15:40 - AND SO WE HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT

15:41 - OF MONEY THAT'S GOING INTO

15:43 - ADEQUACY FUNDING OVER

15:44 - 565 MILLION DOLLARS. THE YEAR

15:45 - HAS BEEN GOING IN. SO UP TO

15:46 - THIS POINT, IF YOU INCLUDE WHAT

15:48 - THE GOVERNOR IS PROPOSING THIS

15:50 - YEAR, WE'LL SEE A FULL OVER

15:53 - 3 BILLION DOLLARS BEING

15:53 - INVESTED IN THE PUBLIC

15:54 - EDUCATION. IT'S BOLD. IT'S

15:54 - EXACTLY WHAT OUR STUDENTS NEED

15:56 - RIGHT NOW. SO LET'S TALK MORE

15:58 - ABOUT THIS ADEQUACY FUNDING

15:59 - THAT THIS IS SUDDENLY A PHRASE

16:01 - THAT IS CENTRAL.

16:03 - >>TO THIS WHOLE DEBATE ABOUT

16:04 - EDUCATION FUNDING. AND SO THE

16:08 - COURT RULING WAS IN 2023.

16:10 - AND GOVERNOR SHAPIRO PUT OUT

16:10 - HIS FIRST ROUND OF ADEQUACY

16:14 - DOLLARS IN 2024. SO THAT

16:16 - HAPPENED AGAIN IN 2025. SO NOW

16:17 - LEGISLATORS ARE CONSIDERING

16:21 - A 3RD ROUND OF ADEQUACY DOLLARS

16:22 - AND NOT UNREASONABLY. THEY

16:23 - EXPECT TO SEE SOME PERFORMANCE

16:24 - IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS

16:27 - INVESTMENT. MY?

16:27 - >>WELL, I THINK WE CAN SEE NOT

16:31 - JUST OUT OF THE ADEQUACY OF

16:31 - FUNDING, BUT ALSO HISTORICALLY

16:33 - WHEN WE HAVEN'T USED OUR

16:34 - SCHOOLS WITH MONEY, KIDS DO

16:35 - BETTER. I MEAN, WE SAW THAT

16:36 - WITH THE COVID DOLLARS THAT

16:39 - CAME IN SPECIFICALLY THE

16:41 - SOUTHEAST. I WE SAW SOME

16:42 - SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN

16:42 - PERFORMANCE IN THE SCHOOL

16:44 - DISTRICT OF PHILADELPHIA IN

16:45 - PARTICULAR. AND TODAY IS

16:49 - ACTUALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OUR

16:50 - SCHOOL FUNDING COALITION PA

16:52 - SCHOOLS WORK HAS A REPORT

16:53 - COMING OUT TODAY THAT WE ARE

16:55 - SHARING WITH LAWMAKERS IN THE

16:56 - CAPITAL THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW

16:57 - THESE ADEQUACY DOLLARS ARE

16:58 - BEING SPENT AND THEY ARE GAME

17:01 - CHANGER FOR

17:02 - OUR KIDS. GIVE US A QUICK

17:03 - PREVIEW OF THAT REPORT. PLEASE

17:03 - SHARE THE REPORT SHOWS THAT

17:06 - SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE

17:06 - GETTING THE AS WE'VE DOLLARS

17:10 - ARE HIGHER RATING READING

17:13 - TUTORS, THEY ARE INVESTING AN

17:14 - ANTI-BULLYING PROGRAMS. THEY

17:17 - ARE FOCUSED ON GIVING THE

17:18 - HIGH-IMPACT TUTORING THAT KIDS

17:19 - NEED TO IMPROVE THE REFUNDING

17:20 - OR ANTI BULLYING. I WANT TO

17:21 - MAKE SURE I HEARD YES, YES,

17:23 - YES. AND SO I MEAN, SCHOOL

17:24 - DISTRICTS IN THE SOUTHEAST IN

17:26 - PARTICULAR ARE REALLY STEPPING

17:27 - UP WITH THESE DOLLARS TO HELP

17:29 - OUR KIDS.

17:32 - >>YOU KNOW, I I COULDN'T THE

17:33 - DISAGREE WITH WHAT THE SPEAKER

17:35 - SAID THERE. THAT FLOODING IS A

17:38 - KEY COMPONENT. BUT

17:39 - ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE

17:40 - HAVE FROM THE CYBER CHARTER

17:43 - SCHOOLS IS SOME OF THIS FUNDING

17:45 - THAT IS GOING OVER TO THE

17:45 - PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT IS

17:48 - COMING FROM THIS. SO I THINK IF

17:48 - YOU USE THE ARGUMENT THAT

17:51 - FUNDING IS GOING TO INCREASED

17:53 - PERFORMANCE AND THAT TYPE OF

17:54 - THING. THEN IF THERE IS THOSE

17:57 - CONCERNS THAT THE CYBER CHARTER

17:58 - SCHOOLS ARE NOT PERFORMING AT

18:01 - THE LEVEL, THEY SHOULD, THEN

18:02 - WHY ARE THEY GOING TO BE THE

18:03 - ONLY ONES THAT RECEIVE RECEIVE

18:04 - THESE CUTS? SO I THINK IF WE'RE

18:05 - GOING TO LOOK AGAIN TO A FAIR

18:07 - AND BALANCED FORMULA TO MAKE

18:09 - SURE THAT THERE'S A SITUATION

18:12 - WHERE EVERYBODY CAN SUCCEED.

18:13 - I DO AGREE ALSO THAT ALL, YOU

18:16 - KNOW, THE FUNDING FORMULA WHEN

18:17 - YOU LOOK AT, IF WE JUST TAKE,

18:18 - FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT THE GOVERNOR

18:21 - JUST PASSED LAST YEAR, ROUGHLY

18:24 - ABOUT 178 MILLION DOLLARS OF

18:25 - REFORM THAT WAS TAKEN FROM

18:27 - CYBER OVER THE PUBLIC SCHOOL

18:28 - DISTRICTS. IF WE'RE LOOKING

18:29 - AT THE ENTIRE STATE OF

18:30 - PENNSYLVANIA WITH 500 SCHOOL

18:32 - DISTRICTS.

18:36 - OVER 52% OF THE FUNDING WAS

18:37 - GOING TO 20 SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN

18:40 - THE STATE

18:40 - OF PENNSYLVANIA WHERE THE OTHER

18:42 - 480 HAD TO FIGHT OVER TURF.

18:46 - 48%. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW,

18:47 - WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE WE REALLY

18:48 - TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY

18:50 - STUDENT IN PENNSYLVANIA AND THE

18:53 - LAST COMMENT AGES? ALSO, WHEN

18:56 - YOU LOOK OVER THE TOP

18:57 - 20 LIST, THE ASSOCIATION HAS

18:58 - PUT OUR PUT OUT A REPORT

18:58 - EARLIER THIS YEAR AS WELL, TOO.

19:02 - THAT STATED WE'RE SEEING

19:05 - DECLINING ENROLLMENT. IT HAS

19:06 - BEEN SALTING. IT'S BEEN

19:06 - MENTIONED BY THE LAWMAKERS

19:07 - THOUGHT AS ITS ECONOMY. ROMAN

19:08 - HAS INCREASED. WE'RE ALSO

19:11 - SEEING INCREASED EXPENSES.

19:12 - NOW, GRANTED, THERE ARE THINGS

19:13 - LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK WE JUST

19:14 - NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE

19:15 - LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD.

19:19 - >>AND FIRST AND THEN MY.

19:20 - >>I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY WAS

19:22 - SPOT ON THE WE'VE SEEN THIS

19:23 - INVESTMENT THIS INFUSION OF

19:24 - MONEY OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS.

19:24 - AND WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN

19:27 - HIRING OF STAFF, WHICH IS

19:28 - DRASTICALLY REDUCING SOME CLASS

19:30 - SIZES ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH.

19:32 - WE'VE SEEN STEM PROGRAMS

19:33 - INTRODUCED, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY

19:34 - IN THIS DAY IN AGE. SO

19:35 - IMPORTANT TO OUR STUDENTS.

19:36 - WE'VE SEEN THE LITERACY AND

19:38 - MATH COACHING. BUT AGAIN, YOU

19:40 - KNOW, GOVERNOR SHAPIRO IN THE

19:42 - LEGISLATURE IN THIS BUDGET

19:43 - ALONE, IT'S ANOTHER 100 MILLION

19:44 - DOLLARS FOR SCHOOL SAFETY AND

19:47 - MENTAL HEALTH, WHICH IS SO MORE

19:48 - INTO OUR SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW INTO

19:49 - OUR STUDENTS ARE GETTING THE

19:51 - HELP THAT THEY REALLY NEED.

19:52 - AND SO WE'RE REALLY PROVIDING

19:54 - OUR STUDENTS WITH THE KIND OF

19:54 - PROGRAMS THAT THEY'VE BEEN

19:55 - NEEDING FOR SUCH A LONG TIME.

20:00 - >>I WOULD SAY FAIR AND BALANCED

20:01 - ONLY MATTER SO MUCH AS

20:02 - EVERYBODY STARTS IN THE SAME

20:03 - PLAYING FIELD. AND THAT'S JUST

20:05 - NOT TRUE. WE KNOW THAT THE

20:06 - SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE

20:07 - GETTING THOSE ADEQUACY DOLLARS

20:07 - STARTED BEHIND WHEN IT CAME

20:11 - TO FUNDING. I WILL. I WALKED

20:12 - THE HALLS OF SOME OF THOSE

20:13 - SCHOOLS. SOME OF THEM DON'T

20:14 - EVEN HAVE TOILET PAPER. THAT'S

20:18 - HOW BAD IT'S SO WE CANNOT LET

20:19 - OUR STUDENTS GO TO SCHOOLS

20:20 - WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE WHAT THEY

20:24 - NEED TO LEARN ENOUGH IN A SAFE

20:26 - ENVIRONMENT, FAIR AND BALANCED

20:26 - ALSO MEANS THAT IT'S BASED ON

20:29 - THE OPERATING COSTS OF THAT

20:31 - SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND IT JUST

20:33 - DOESN'T COST AS MUCH TO RUN A

20:33 - CYBER PROGRAM AS IT DOES.

20:36 - A BRICK AND MORTAR SCHOOL.

20:40 - LET'S GO AHEAD. JUST REAL

20:41 - QUICK, TO WHAT MY SAID THERE

20:44 - IS ON ON THE COST.

20:46 - >>THE LEGISLATURE DID TAKE THAT

20:47 - INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY

20:48 - PUT THE CHARTER SCHOOL OUT BY

20:49 - IT. WE'RE IMPLEMENTING WHAT'S

20:51 - CALLED A PG 3.63. SO THE COURSE

20:54 - THAT GOES TO A CYBER SCHOOL

20:57 - IS ONLY A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT

20:58 - THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT IS

20:59 - ACTUALLY COLLECTING FOR THE

21:03 - TAXPAYERS. SO, YES, YOU'RE THE

21:04 - CYBER CHARTER SCHOOL. YOU DON'T

21:05 - NEED TRANSPORTATION EXPENSES,

21:07 - DEBT SERVICE FACILITIES,

21:07 - MAINTENANCE THAT'S TAKING OUT

21:11 - IN THE FORMULA. SO I THINK WHEN

21:12 - YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S THE

21:13 - EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT. I THINK

21:17 - THE REAL QUESTION IS, AGAIN,

21:17 - YOU KNOW, FOR TALKING FOR A

21:18 - BALANCE HERE, IF YOU'RE ASKING

21:21 - A CYBER CHARTER SCHOOL TO BE

21:24 - RUN AT A CERTAIN RATE FOR A

21:25 - STUDENT, THEN IF YOU TAKE THAT

21:29 - BACK INTO THE PD 3.63, 10, THE

21:30 - SCHOOL DISTRICTS OPERATE ON

21:31 - THAT SAME BUDGET. AND I THINK

21:32 - THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION IS

21:33 - WILL BE ASKED BECAUSE OF THE

21:36 - WAY THE FORMULA SET UP.

21:37 - >>SO LET'S GET BACK TO THE

21:39 - SUBJECT OF THE ADEQUACY FUNDS.

21:40 - AND AS WE SAID BEFORE, WE'RE

21:44 - GOING INTO A POTENTIAL 3RD

21:46 - PHASE OF ADEQUACY DOLLARS.

21:47 - SO LET'S CONSIDER THIS

21:47 - QUESTION. ARE THE LIMITATIONS

21:48 - TO HOW THESE ADEQUACY DOLLARS

21:51 - CAN BE SPENT?

21:52 - >>I THINK THAT THERE'S THERE'S

21:53 - CERTAIN BUCKETS THAT WE'VE GOT,

21:57 - THAT THERE'S A LOT. AGAIN, IF

21:58 - YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH MONEY IS

21:58 - BEING PROPOSED BY GOVERNOR

22:01 - SHAPIRO IN THIS BUDGET. SO THIS

22:02 - WILL BE THAT OVER 3 BILLION

22:03 - DOLLARS IN NEW MONEY. AND THERE

22:07 - ARE OTHER AREAS WHERE MONEY'S

22:09 - BEING DESIGNATED FOR LIKE

22:10 - THERE'S ANOTHER 50 MILLION

22:11 - DOLLARS FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION.

22:15 - WE'VE GOT UP TO 50 AROUND

22:16 - 15 MILLION DOLLARS FOR OUR CTC

22:17 - PROGRAMS, WHICH ARE SO VITAL

22:18 - RIGHT NOW IN THIS DAY AND AGE

22:21 - AND IN OUR IN OUR COMMONWEALTH.

22:23 - AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S

22:23 - TRANSPORTATION. THERE'S

22:24 - 15 MILLION FOR TRANSPORTATION.

22:27 - SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT AVENUES

22:28 - WHERE SOME OF THIS MONEY IS

22:31 - BEING INFUSED INTO BECAUSE

22:31 - WE'VE GOT LOTS OF AREAS IN OUR

22:32 - SCHOOLS. OBVIOUSLY THE NEED TO

22:33 - BE ADDRESSED. WE'VE GOT, YOU

22:34 - KNOW, OVER 100 MILLION DOLLARS

22:37 - IS BEING PROPOSED FOR

22:38 - INFRASTRUCTURE ALONE. AND IN

22:40 - THE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS,

22:41 - WE'VE HAD LIKE 200 SCHOOLS

22:42 - SEEING PROJECTS BEING DONE THAT

22:44 - ARE SO DESPERATELY NEEDED

22:46 - BECAUSE THE SCHOOL FACILITIES

22:48 - THAT THEY NEED TO BE IN IN

22:50 - CERTAIN CONDITIONS FOR STUDENTS

22:51 - TO LEARN PROPERLY. AND, YOU

22:51 - KNOW, THEY NEED TO BE TAKEN

22:53 - CARE OF AND THEY'VE BEEN

22:55 - FALLING APART ACROSS THE

22:56 - COMMONWEALTH. NOW, MY

22:57 - UNDERSTANDING IS ADEQUATELY

23:00 - FUNDING CAN'T PAY FOR BUILDING

23:01 - APPROVED SNOW AGAIN. ADEQUACY

23:01 - OF FUNDING IS TO SERVICE

23:02 - SPECIFICALLY TO HELP SCHOOLS

23:04 - THAT HAVE BEEN.

23:06 - >>YOU KNOW, GENERATIONALLY

23:06 - UNDERFUNDED TO HELP THEM GET TO

23:07 - A SPOT WHERE THEY ARE GOING

23:09 - TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF

23:10 - THEIR STUDENTS LIKE THEY SHOULD

23:13 - HAVE BEEN FOR DECADES.

23:13 - >>I WOULD. I WOULD SAY THAT.

23:19 - I TAKE ISSUE WITH THE QUESTION

23:22 - OF WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE

23:23 - LIMITATIONS ON HOW THE MONEY

23:25 - SHOULD BE SPENT BECAUSE

23:27 - HONESTLY, I THINK IMPLICIT IN

23:28 - THAT QUESTION IS THIS IDEA THE

23:30 - SCHOOL DISTRICT SO MUCH FOR

23:31 - SENDING THAT ARE UNDER

23:32 - LIMITATIONS? WELL, YES, THERE

23:34 - ARE LIMITATIONS. AND YOU JUST

23:34 - YOU JUST CITED. ONE OF THEM

23:35 - IS THE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE

23:38 - IN LINE. BUT SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

23:39 - I WANT TO SET THE RECORD

23:42 - STRAIGHT ARE SPENDING THIS

23:43 - MONEY THE RIGHT WAY. THEY'RE

23:46 - HIRING STAFF. THEY'RE INVESTING

23:48 - IN PROGRAMS. THEY'RE DOING WHAT

23:49 - THEY NEED TO AND IT'S STILL

23:52 - NOT ENOUGH IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS

23:54 - LIKE PHILADELPHIA LAST WEEK.

23:55 - THEY JUST PASSED A BUDGET THAT

23:58 - INCLUDED 340 CUTS TO POSITIONS.

24:00 - THEY HAVE A STRUCTURAL DEFICIT.

24:02 - THEY NEED THIS MONEY MORE THAN

24:04 - EVER. AND I THINK THE LAWMAKERS

24:06 - IN HARRISBURG UNDERSTAND THAT

24:09 - I KEEP THE FLOOR FOR A MINUTE

24:11 - AND CONSIDER A VERY BASIC

24:12 - QUESTION.

24:12 - >>WHAT DO OUR KIDS NEED BEFORE

24:17 - THEY ENTER A GREAT SCHOOL AND

24:18 - THAT THERE'S BEEN MUCH RESEARCH

24:20 - AND THERE'S BEEN PROGRESS ON

24:21 - THIS FRONT TO THAT ISN'T IT IS

24:23 - IMPORTANT WHEN A CHILD LEARNED

24:24 - AREN'T EXPOSED TO BEFORE THEY

24:26 - GO TO GREAT SCHOOL. ABSOLUTELY.

24:27 - WE'VE SEEN GOVERNOR AFTER

24:29 - GOVERNOR IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF

24:31 - PENNSYLVANIA INVEST IN EARLY

24:35 - LEARNING AND WE'RE SO

24:35 - >>EXCITED THAT THIS YEAR THAT

24:37 - THAT LEGACY IS GOING TO

24:40 - CONTINUE WHAT WE'RE REALLY

24:42 - EXCITED ABOUT IS A RENEWED

24:43 - COMMITMENT TO EARLY CHILDHOOD

24:46 - EDUCATION WORKFORCE. SO THE

24:47 - GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET

24:49 - INCLUDES AN INCREASE OF

24:50 - 10 MILLION DOLLARS FOR

24:52 - RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION FUND

24:53 - FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD TEACHERS.

24:56 - AND SO THAT'S UP FROM THE

25:00 - 25 MILLION LAST YEAR. THIS IS

25:01 - GOING TO REALLY ADD TO THE OF

25:03 - THE HOUSEHOLD INCOMES OF THOSE

25:04 - EARLY CHILDHOOD TEACHERS WHO

25:05 - MAKE ON AVERAGE. ACCORDING THE

25:08 - ISO $15 AN HOUR.

25:11 - >>NOW MIGHT TELL ME MORE ABOUT

25:13 - WHAT THE CHILDREN ARE ACTUALLY

25:15 - EXPOSED TO AS FAR AS THEIR

25:17 - EDUCATIONS CONCERNS PUTTING

25:20 - FUNDING THIS I GET. WHY IS THIS

25:21 - ONE IS THE EDUCATION OR GETTING

25:22 - BEFORE THEY ENTER GRADE SCHOOL?

25:24 - ONE OF THE EXPOSED TO I DIDN'T

25:26 - GO THROUGH THAT. SO THIS IS AN

25:27 - END TO A WELL. THOSE

25:29 - FOUNDATIONAL YEAR 0 TO 5 ARE SO

25:30 - IMPORTANT FOR GROWTH AND

25:31 - PREPARATION FOR THE K 12

25:33 - SYSTEM. AND SO IN THOSE EARLY

25:35 - YEARS WERE HOPING TO EXPOSE

25:38 - THEM TO THE ALPHABET.

25:40 - >>TO SANAA, MICK AWARENESS, TO

25:41 - VOCABULARY OTHER TO EACH OTHER.

25:46 - SO SEE EMOTIONAL GROSS SOCIAL

25:48 - CAPITAL IN TERMS OF MEETING

25:50 - OTHER PARENTS MEETING OTHER

25:51 - FAMILY MEMBERS CREATING

25:52 - COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHAT EARLY

25:54 - LEARNING DOES SO SO WELL IS

25:55 - CREATING THAT COMMUNITY OF

25:57 - LEARNING THOSE FOUNDATIONAL

25:59 - SKILLS SO THAT WHEN THEY ENTER

26:00 - KINDERGARTEN, THEY KNOW THEIR

26:01 - ALPHABET. THEY KNOW THEIR

26:02 - NUMBERS. THEY'RE READY TO

26:05 - LEARN. AND WHAT WE SEE ACROSS

26:06 - THE BOARD IS WHEN KIDS DON'T

26:08 - GET THOSE FOUNDATIONAL LEARNING

26:09 - YEARS THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE

26:10 - TO DO A LOT OF CATCH-UP WHEN

26:13 - THEY GET TO KINDERGARTEN.

26:16 - >>IS SPOT ON MY LIKE.

26:17 - EARLY-CHILDHOOD EDUCATION IS

26:18 - SUCH AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT TO

26:22 - THE K 12 SYSTEM. NOT ONLY IS IT

26:23 - GOING TO BE AN INDICATOR HOW

26:24 - THEY'RE GOING TO DO, YOU KNOW,

26:25 - SUCCESS WISE WHEN THEY'RE IN

26:27 - SCHOOL, BUT IT'S ALSO AN

26:28 - INDICATOR OF HOW THEY'RE GOING

26:29 - TO BE DOING IT IN THEIR ADULT

26:30 - LIFE, WHETHER IT'S COLLEGE OR

26:33 - THEIR CAREERS, WHICH AGAIN, IS

26:33 - GOING TO BE A GREAT INVESTMENT

26:36 - IN OUR COMMUNITIES IN THE END.

26:37 - SO IT'S A HUGE, HUGE INVESTMENT

26:40 - THAT THE GOVERNOR AND

26:41 - LEGISLATORS HAVE BEEN MAKING

26:42 - HIM AGAIN. THERE'S ANOTHER

26:43 - 50 MILLION DOLLARS THAT

26:43 - ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT'S BEING

26:46 - PROPOSED THIS YEAR. SO IT'S

26:47 - MONEY THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE IN

26:49 - NEEDS TO BE SPENT. THESE KIDS

26:49 - NEED TO HAVE AS MANY

26:53 - OPPORTUNITIES TO SUCCEED BEFORE

26:54 - THEY CAN GET INTO THE K 12

26:56 - SYSTEM.

26:57 - >>IS THERE A CYBER CHARTER

26:57 - EQUIVALENT TO WHAT WE'RE

27:00 - TALKING ABOUT HERE?

27:02 - >>ACTUALLY THAT THERE THERE IS

27:04 - NOT BECAUSE OF CYBER CHARTER

27:05 - SCHOOL STARTS AT THE K THROUGH

27:07 - 12, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE,

27:08 - YOU KNOW, EARLY INTERVENTION

27:10 - PROGRAMS THAT DO PARENTS TO

27:12 - THAT TYPE OF THING. BUT AGAIN,

27:13 - YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ONE OF

27:16 - THOSE THINGS WHERE

27:18 - THE CONCEPT HERE IS AND I'LL

27:19 - JUST TAKE A SIDESTEP HERE.

27:22 - REAL QUICK. WHAT WE'RE DEALING

27:22 - WITH A PUBLIC SCHOOL CODE,

27:24 - LARRY, THAT WAS DONE IN 1949.

27:26 - AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE

27:27 - REALLY WANT TO HELP

27:28 - PENNSYLVANIA GO FROM MAYBE.

27:32 - YOU KNOW, TOP 5 IN THE NATION

27:33 - AND SPEND PER STUDENT. BUT YET

27:36 - OUR COMES OR NOT THERE. I THINK

27:39 - WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT OAKS,

27:40 - PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS, CYBER

27:40 - SCHOOLS, EARLY EDUCATION TO

27:44 - REALLY TRY TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE

27:45 - TRY TO LOOK TO REFORM AND

27:46 - CREATE AN EDUCATIONAL

27:47 - PENNSYLVANIA CAN BE PROUD OF

27:48 - THE STUDENTS TO COME OUT.

27:48 - I'M NOT SAYING A PROBLEM.

27:51 - NOW,

27:52 - BUT PENNSYLVANIA OR CAN BE A

27:54 - VERY INNOVATIVE IN THIS.

27:55 - IF WE JUST, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY,

27:56 - TEAM THE TABLE SAT DOWN AND SEE

27:59 - HOW IT CAN WORK TOGETHER.

28:00 - >>AND HOW MIGHT A DAY GO FOR

28:02 - STUDENT ENROLLED IN THE CYBER

28:04 - CHARTER SCHOOL? AGAIN, I'VE

28:06 - NEVER BEEN EXPOSED TO THIS.

28:07 - SO WALK US THROUGH SLOWLY HOW

28:09 - MIGHT LOOK SURE KNOW. I REALLY

28:09 - APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.

28:11 - AND THE FIRST THING I'LL SAY IS

28:12 - THERE ARE 2 DIFFERENT TYPES OF

28:13 - CYBER CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT ARE

28:14 - OUT THERE. THERE ARE SOME OF

28:17 - THESE THAT ARE DONE BY THE

28:17 - SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THEN

28:20 - OBVIOUSLY THE ONES THAT ARE TO

28:21 - STAND A LOANS WHICH THE

28:21 - ASSOCIATION REPRESENTS THOSE

28:23 - FAMILIES WEST.

28:24 - >>AND THAT TYPE OF LEARNING IS

28:25 - THERE'S 2 TYPES OF LEARNING.

28:26 - IT'S ASYNCHRONOUS AND

28:27 - SYNCHRONOUS LEARNING THAT THE

28:28 - CYBER CHARTER SCHOOL LEVEL WHEN

28:31 - YOU HAVE AP A CYBER KAMALA

28:32 - CHARTER ACADEMY ARE IN SIGHT

28:36 - OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

28:37 - THOSE STUDENTS, THEY MUST SIGN

28:40 - ON EVERY SINGLE DAY. THEY HAVE

28:40 - LIVE LESSONS. SO IT IS

28:41 - BASICALLY JUST AN INTERACTION

28:42 - WITH THE TEACHER BACK AND

28:47 - FORTH. THEY EXAMS ALL HOMEWORK

28:49 - THAT ALL TIME AND THE STUDENTS

28:50 - ARE INTERACTING WITH US.

28:51 - I'M A TEACHER IN ANY GIVEN TIME

28:53 - WHEN THE AVERAGE IT CAN BE

28:54 - ANYWHERE. I THINK IF YOU LOOK

28:55 - AT MOST OF THE SCHOOLS,

28:55 - ELEMENTARY SIDE IS PROBABLY

28:59 - IN THE

29:00 - >>17 TO 20% RANGE MIDDLE SCHOOL

29:02 - LITTLE BIT MORE AND HIGH

29:04 - SCHOOL. BUT ALL THERE'S THE

29:05 - TEACHER IS BASICALLY THE

29:07 - TEACHER AND THEY HAVE ALL THE

29:08 - SCREENS BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS

29:12 - PASSED IN AT 47 OF 2025.

29:12 - BY THE LEGISLATURE SIGNED BY

29:13 - THE GOVERNOR THERE REQUIRED

29:17 - TO BE ON CAMERA. SO THERE IS

29:18 - ACCESS TO TO SEE THE STUDENTS

29:19 - ON A DAILY BASIS ON A REGULAR

29:23 - BASIS. YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S

29:25 - THAT'S REALLY WHAT WHAT A A DAY

29:25 - LOOKS LIKE FROM FROM A CYBER.

29:29 - BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT THAT THE

29:30 - U.S. IT'S NOT THAT THESE

29:33 - FAMILIES ARE GOING JUST TO

29:34 - CYBER BECAUSE IT'S AN OPTION

29:36 - FOR THEM OUT THERE. SOMETHING

29:37 - IS HAPPENING AT THEIR

29:38 - TRADITIONAL BRICKS AND MORTAR

29:40 - SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT IS PUTTING

29:41 - THEM IN THAT POSITION. AND

29:42 - THAT'S WHY WHEN WE SEE

29:45 - INCREASES IN ENROLLMENT, THE

29:46 - SCHOOL DISTRICT STILL HAVE

29:46 - THESE ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE

29:50 - ADDRESSED BY BY THE LOCALS AND

29:51 - ORLEANS COULD BE ONE OF THOSE

29:51 - ISSUES. ABSOLUTELY. WHEN YOU

29:53 - THINK OF ANOTHER ONE OFF AND

29:57 - SURE, I MEAN, YEAH, YOU HAVE

30:00 - MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, ALL

30:03 - IUP ISSUES, THE FLEXIBILITY,

30:04 - THE ABOUT IT AGAIN, THAT'S

30:04 - SOMETHING TO DO WITH

30:07 - DISABILITIES. SO BASICALLY WHAT

30:08 - THAT IS, LARRY, IS YOU HAVE AN

30:09 - END OF YOU HAVE A STUDENT THAT

30:11 - COMES IN. THEY ARE SUS BY A

30:12 - COUNSELOR ASKED TO IF THEY NEED

30:14 - REMEDIAL MATH THAT THEY NEED

30:15 - REMEDIAL READING OR SOMETHING

30:16 - LIKE THAT. IF THEY HAVE TO BE

30:17 - IN A SPECIAL CLASS ROOM FOR US

30:19 - TO PLAY PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS

30:21 - IN THE SAME THING, THEY ASSESS

30:22 - AND THEN THEY MOVE IN THAT

30:25 - DIRECTION AS WELL TOO.

30:27 - >>IT STANDS FOR INDIVIDUALIZED

30:29 - EDUCATION PLAN. SO IT IT JUST

30:30 - SAYS THAT PARTICULAR STUDENT

30:31 - HAS NEEDS THAT NEED TO BE

30:34 - ACCOMMODATED.

30:37 - >>AND AS FAR AS THE GOVERNOR'S

30:39 - NEW BUDGET IS CONCERNED, AND

30:40 - ONCE AGAIN, IT'S AN INCREASE

30:43 - FOR EDUCATION. IS THERE ANY

30:45 - DISCRETION AS TO HOW THOSE

30:46 - DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE SPENT?

30:47 - MAYBE NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH

30:48 - THE ADEQUACY DOLLARS. COME TO

30:49 - THINK OF IT. MAYBE THAT'S A

30:51 - SEPARATE POT OF MONEY.

30:53 - >>AND THERE ARE THERE'S AS I

30:54 - EXPLAIN A LITTLE EARLIER, THERE

30:55 - ARE DIFFERENT AVENUES WHERE

30:57 - THE FUNDING IS BEING PROPOSED.

30:57 - SPECIFIC AREAS LIKE SPECIAL

31:01 - EDUCATION, TRANSPORTATION, OUR

31:04 - CTC SCHOOL PROGRAMS. SO WE HAVE

31:06 - LOTS OF DIFFERENT AVENUES.

31:08 - EVEN 15 AROUND 15 MILLION

31:08 - DOLLARS IN ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR

31:10 - UNIVERSAL BREAKFAST, WHICH ARE

31:12 - A HUGE COMPONENT, IS AS I SAW

31:13 - AS A 5TH GRADE TEACHER, I HAD

31:13 - KIDS COME TO SCHOOL ALL THE

31:15 - TIME. THEY WERE JUST HUNGRY

31:15 - AND IT'S HARD TO START TODAY

31:19 - FOR LEARNING THE MEAT MET

31:20 - INCREASE TRIPS TO THE NURSE'S

31:22 - OFFICE. THIS IS A GREAT

31:23 - PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST

31:25 - SCHOOL YEAR, THERE ARE ALMOST

31:25 - OVER 90 MILLION FREE BREAKFAST

31:26 - THAT WERE BEING PROVIDED TO OUR

31:29 - STUDENTS, WHICH HES REALLY MADE

31:31 - A HUGE IMPACT ON OUR SCHOOLS.

31:31 - >>WELL, THANK SIMON. WHEN I'M

31:35 - GONNA GIVE ME A BREAK. I JUST

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33:18 - ABOUT EDUCATION FUNDING TODAY

33:18 - AND NOW IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY

33:21 - TO FIND OUT ABOUT

33:22 - YOUR RESPECTIVE ORGANIZATIONS

33:23 - AND LET LET'S HEAR FROM YOU

33:25 - FIRST.

33:27 - >>IT'S THE PSTA, THE

33:27 - PENNSYLVANIA STATE EDUCATION

33:32 - ASSOCIATION. WE REPRESENT

33:32 - 177,000 MEMBERS. IT'S IT'S

33:33 - PROFESSIONAL MEMBERS IS OUR

33:36 - SUPPORT. STAFF. WE HAVE

33:36 - STUDENTS, MEMBERS THAT ARE IN

33:39 - COLLEGE AS WELL AS OUR RETIREES

33:42 - AND WE EDUCATE A 1.7 MILLION

33:42 - STUDENTS IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL

33:47 - SYSTEM AND WE ALSO REPRESENT

33:47 - ABOUT 1000 MEMBERS AS WELL IN

33:51 - THE CYBER CHARTERS. SO WE

33:53 - REPRESENT ALL A VARIETY OF

33:54 - INTERESTS, YOU KNOW, IN OUR

33:58 - PUBLIC SCHOOLS. HOW ABOUT YOU,

33:58 - MIKE?

33:59 - >>I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

34:02 - FOR CHILDREN. FIRST WE ARE 46

34:02 - YEAR-OLD ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION

34:03 - THAT WORKS ON ALL THINGS

34:05 - RELATED TO CHILDREN. AND THAT

34:06 - INCLUDES EDUCATION. BUT IT ALSO

34:10 - INCLUDES THINGS LIKE JUVENILE

34:13 - JUSTICE OR CHILD EDUCATION,

34:15 - HEALTH CARE, MENTAL HEALTH, A

34:15 - VARIETY OF ISSUES THAT WE NOT

34:18 - ONLY WORK WITH LAWMAKERS, BUT

34:20 - ALSO WITH ADMINISTRATORS TO

34:22 - IMPROVE THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE

34:24 - DESIGNED TO SUPPORT CHILDREN.

34:25 - WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES

34:25 - THAT ARE RECENTLY? VERY

34:29 - INTERESTING, TOO. IN AS I

34:32 - BUDGET

34:34 - I THINK OF THE EARLY

34:36 - INTERVENTION SYSTEM AS WE WERE

34:37 - TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, HAS A

34:39 - LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT

34:42 - BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT CAPTURING

34:44 - DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS THAT ARE

34:46 - PRESENT IN THE VERY EARLIEST

34:47 - YEARS AND MAKING SURE THOSE

34:48 - KIDS GET ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

34:50 - SO THAT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT THE

34:51 - BUDGET LIKE WE WANT DOLLARS

34:52 - GOING TO THE SYSTEM. WE ALSO

34:55 - WANT TO REFORM THE SYSTEM SO

34:56 - THAT THOSE CHILDREN ARE GETTING

35:00 - TIMELY SCREENINGS THAT THEIR

35:01 - SERVICES, IF IF IDENTIFIED THAT

35:03 - THEY NEED THEM START RIGHT

35:05 - AWAY. AND WE SEE IN THAT

35:07 - SYSTEM, THE SAME SYSTEMS IN THE

35:08 - EDUCATION SYSTEM WHERE THERE'S

35:11 - A WORKFORCE SHORTAGE. SO THAT

35:12 - IS THE REASON WHY CHILDREN ARE

35:13 - NOT GETTING EARLY ENOUGH

35:14 - SCREENINGS OR THAT'S THE REASON

35:15 - THEY NOT GETTING A SPEECH

35:17 - THERAPIST ON TIME. SO THOSE ARE

35:19 - SYSTEMS THAT WE WANT TO WORK

35:20 - ON, NOT JUST GETTING FUNDING

35:23 - FOR, BUT

35:23 - ACTUALLY STREAMLINING.

35:24 - >>AND HOW ABOUT YOU, MARCUS?

35:26 - TELL US ABOUT CYBER CHARTER

35:27 - SCHOOLS IN THE HISTORY GOES

35:28 - BACK A FEW YEARS. SURE OF THE

35:29 - CYBER CHARTER LAW WENT INTO

35:31 - EFFECT IN THE EARLY 2.

35:31 - THOUSANDS AND JUST IN JANUARY

35:36 - 2024, SEVERAL SCHOOLS GOT

35:37 - TOGETHER WITH SOME OF THE STEPS

35:38 - WERE BEING TAKEN BY THE

35:40 - LEGISLATURE TO CREATE THIS

35:41 - ADVOCACY GROUP, WHICH I'M

35:42 - HONORED TO BE THE EXECUTIVE

35:46 - DIRECTOR OFF AND THE THERE'S

35:46 - 13 CYBER CHARTER SCHOOLS IN THE

35:49 - STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA. NOT ALL

35:50 - SCHOOLS ARE PARTY ASSOCIATION,

35:52 - BUT THE ASSOCIATION ITSELF

35:55 - REPRESENT 65,000 CLOSE TO THAT.

35:57 - PLUS, FAMILIES ACROSS THE STATE

35:58 - WHO ARE SELECTED THIS AS THE

35:59 - EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR

36:00 - WHAT THEY LIKE TO SEE THEIR

36:03 - STUDENTS THRIVE IN.

36:05 - >>NOW, I'M SURE IT'S NOT NEWS

36:08 - TO 3 AND THAT THAT WE HAD A

36:09 - LONG HIM PAST. THE STATE BUDGET

36:11 - WAS MONTHS BEFORE THAT WAS

36:12 - SIGNED UP AND SOME DISTRICTS

36:12 - HAD TO COPE. THEY HAD TO GET

36:16 - THROUGH THAT. WOULD YOU TELL ME

36:17 - HOW DISTRICTS DIDN'T GET OVER

36:20 - THAT HUMP FUNDING WISE AND THEN

36:21 - THEY BORROW MONEY FROM HOME.

36:24 - THAT WAS REALLY UNFORTUNATE

36:24 - SITUATION BACK IN THE WELL IN

36:27 - THE SUMMER AND THE FALL OF

36:29 - 2025.

36:29 - >>BECAUSE AS WE WENT THROUGH

36:30 - THE SUMMER PERSONAL SCHOOL

36:31 - DISTRICT OF THE END OF JUNE ARE

36:32 - ALREADY SETTING THEIR BUDGETS

36:33 - AND THEY NEEDED TO KNOW WHAT

36:34 - THE STATE WAS GOING TO BE DOING

36:36 - IN THE FIRST PLACE, WHICH MAKES

36:37 - IT VERY CHALLENGING. AND SO AS

36:40 - THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTED, THEY

36:41 - WERE STARTING TO HAVING TO USE

36:42 - THEIR FUND BALANCES, WHICH

36:44 - THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR.

36:46 - BUT AS THE THE FALL MONTHS WENT

36:48 - ON, WE HAD SOME SOME SCHOOL

36:49 - DISTRICTS THAT WERE FORCED TO

36:52 - TAKE OUT LOANS. TENS OF

36:54 - MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO COVER

36:55 - THEIR COSTS BECAUSE THE STATE

36:58 - BUDGET HAD BEEN PASSED. AND

36:58 - UNFORTUNATELY, THAT COST OF

37:01 - INTEREST, THEN HAD TO BE

37:02 - COVERED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF

37:03 - THEIR COMMUNITIES. AND IT WAS A

37:05 - REALLY UNFORTUNATE SITUATION.

37:07 - AND AS WE GOT INTO THE MONTH OF

37:08 - NOVEMBER, DOES THAT MEAN HIGHER

37:10 - PROPERTY TAXES IT IN THE END

37:11 - WHEN THEY HAVE TO RESET, YOU

37:12 - KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE EVALUATING

37:14 - HOW THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE

37:15 - OF THEIR BUDGET FOR THE NEXT

37:15 - YEAR. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S MONEY

37:16 - THAT THEY WEREN'T EXPECTING TO

37:18 - SPEND. BUT AS WE WERE GETTING

37:20 - INTO THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER LAST

37:21 - YEAR, THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE

37:22 - TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS.

37:24 - WERE THEY GOING TO STAY OPEN

37:24 - WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO

37:25 - LET STAFF OFF OR THEY GOT THE

37:28 - FURLOUGH THEM? AND OBVIOUSLY

37:29 - THIS WAS MAKING THE THE

37:30 - COMMUNITY'S VERY NERVOUS.

37:30 - IT'S, YOU KNOW, OUR KIDS NEED

37:34 - TO KEEP GETTING EDUCATED.

37:36 - BUT THE WOMEN BEHIND WELL, NO,

37:37 - BUT THEY WERE THEY. THERE ARE

37:39 - MANY DISTRICTS ACROSS THE

37:40 - COMMONWEALTH THAT WE'RE

37:40 - CONSIDERING AS THEY MOVE INTO

37:43 - DECEMBER AND JANUARY TO HAVE TO

37:45 - SHUT THE DOORS TO THE STUDENTS.

37:47 - AND THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT

37:48 - SOMETHING WE SHOULD EVER HAVING

37:50 - TO BE DOING IT IN THIS DAY AND

37:52 - AGE. HOW ABOUT WHOM I HAD IN A

37:55 - WORLD OF EARLY CHILD EDUCATION

37:55 - REACT TO THIS BUDGET IMPASSE

37:57 - AND THEN TRYING TO RECOVER FROM

37:59 - IT.

38:00 - >>SURE. SO THE CHILD CARE

38:02 - SUBSIDY WORLD. SO THAT'S THE

38:04 - FUNDING STREAM. THE SUPPORTS

38:06 - SOME OF OUR LOWEST INCOME

38:08 - CHILDREN IS NOT ON THE LIST.

38:10 - THAT THE WOULD LOSE FUNDING OR

38:13 - NOT GET FUNDING DURING AN

38:14 - IMPASSE. BUT PRE-K PROGRAMS,

38:16 - PRE-K COUNTS, PROGRAMS WERE.

38:19 - AND SO WE DID SEE SMALL

38:20 - BUSINESS OPERATORS WHO HAVE

38:23 - PRE-K COUNTS PROGRAMS REALLY

38:24 - START TO SCRAMBLE DURING THOSE

38:25 - MONTHS WHERE THERE WAS A BUDGET

38:27 - IMPASSE AND SOME OF THEM WE'RE

38:28 - THINKING ABOUT TAKING A LOAN.

38:29 - SOME OF THEM DID TAKE OUT LOANS

38:30 - BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO LET

38:33 - GO OF THEIR STAFF AND THEY HAD

38:33 - CLASSROOMS OF CHILDREN THAT

38:37 - NEEDED TEACHERS. AND SO WE HAVE

38:38 - TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT

38:40 - THESE KINDS OF IMPASSE IS DON'T

38:44 - JUST AFFECT LARGE SCHOOL

38:45 - DISTRICTS. THEY AFFECT SMALL

38:46 - BUSINESSES THAT ARE RUN BY MOM

38:48 - AND POPS WHO.

38:48 - >>AND HOW ABOUT THE EFFECTS ON

38:49 - THE CYBER CHARTER DURING THE

38:52 - BUDGET IMPASSE?

38:54 - >>IT LET LARRY EXACTLY WHAT

38:55 - PARENTS SAID. YOU KNOW,

38:56 - WHENEVER THERE'S A BUDGET

38:57 - IMPASSE BECAUSE OF THE WAY TO

38:59 - SET OFF WITHIN THE STATE, ALL

38:59 - OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT

39:01 - REIMBURSING THE CYBER CHARTERS.

39:02 - THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE LAY THEIR

39:04 - SIZZLING FUNDING, BUT ALL TAKE

39:08 - IT ONE STEP FURTHER IS, YOU

39:09 - KNOW, AS AARON MENTIONED, THAT

39:11 - THE CONCERN WITH PUBLIC SCHOOL

39:11 - DISTRICTS WAS THE DELAY AND

39:13 - POSSIBLY SHUTTING THE DOORS

39:16 - BECAUSE CYBER CHARTER NOT ONLY

39:17 - HAD THE BUDGET IMPASSE, BUT

39:19 - ALSO TOOK THE HIT. ONE REFORM

39:20 - AS THE BUDGET HAD ALREADY BEEN

39:22 - PASSED IN IN JUNE. PREVIOUSLY.

39:25 - NOW THEY WERE TOLD IN DECEMBER

39:26 - THAT THERE AREN'T A REDUCTION

39:28 - IN FUNDING FROM THE STATE.

39:31 - SO WE HAVE SCHOOLS LIKE AL

39:33 - GORE, CYBER CHARTER SCHOOL THAT

39:34 - HAD TO FURLOUGH EMPLOYEES.

39:35 - AND SO WHAT DOES THAT DO THAT'S

39:36 - GOING TO IMPACT ON THAT

39:40 - EDUCATIONAL LEVEL. SO, YOU

39:40 - KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE AGAINST

39:41 - ANY TYPE OF QATAR, A THING LIKE

39:44 - TO PUT MORE SO YOU MAKE A CUT

39:45 - IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCHOOL

39:47 - YEAR WHEN THE SCHOOLS HAVE

39:48 - ALREADY, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTED

39:49 - WITH VENDORS ARE ALREADY

39:50 - HALFWAY THROUGH THE EDUCATIONAL

39:52 - OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE

39:54 - STUDENTS. AND NOW YOU HAVE ALL

39:55 - THIS PRESSURE PUT ON HIM.

39:56 - IT WAS REALLY A DOUBLE WHAMMY

39:57 - FOR THE CYBER CHARTER, OUR

40:00 - COMMUNITY.

40:01 - >>WELL, I UNDERSTAND SCHOOL

40:03 - DISTRICTS CAN GET FRUSTRATED

40:05 - WITH HAVING TO PAY FOR STATE

40:06 - MANDATE AND PROGRAMS SEEMS

40:08 - WHATEVER THAT PHRASE COMES UP.

40:10 - A STATE MANDATED SOMETIMES THAT

40:11 - PEOPLE GET TENSE.

40:14 - >>WELL, THERE.

40:15 - IT'S NOT THAT, YOU KNOW,

40:16 - EDUCATORS AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS

40:18 - DON'T WANT TO BE TEACHING THESE

40:19 - THESE CERTAIN KIND OF PROGRESS.

40:21 - BUT THE PROMISE, HOW MUCH CAN

40:22 - YOU DO DURING A SINGLE DAY?

40:24 - THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT CAN

40:26 - BE, YOU KNOW, CRAMMED INTO THAT

40:28 - 7, 8, HOUR TIME SPAN. SO, YOU

40:30 - KNOW, THESE MIGHT BE GREAT

40:30 - IDEAS, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S JUST

40:33 - REALLY HARD TO IMPLEMENT THEM.

40:35 - IT'S HARD TO FIND 5 TIME,

40:37 - ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'VE GOT

40:38 - STANDARDIZED TESTING, WHICH

40:39 - DOES UNFORTUNATELY TAKE UP THE

40:40 - PREPARATION AND THE

40:43 - IMPLEMENTATION OF IT. IT'S

40:44 - IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAS

40:46 - TO GIVE. AND SO WHAT IS WHAT

40:47 - ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE UP IN

40:48 - ORDER TO BRING SOMETHING NEW

40:51 - INTO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS?

40:53 - WELL, I I HAVE TO AGREE WITH

40:53 - DARREN, YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF

40:56 - STATE FUNDED MANDATE THAT COMES

40:58 - TO ALL THE CYBER CHARTER

41:00 - COMMUNITY. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S

41:00 - GOING TO COST WITHOUT AS WELL,

41:01 - TOO. AND I THINK YOUR'RE

41:02 - OBVIOUSLY SEES OUT WITH WITH

41:04 - THE PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

41:05 - >>THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE FROM

41:06 - THE CYBER CHARTER IS ALL THESE

41:08 - MANDATES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE.

41:12 - YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THE

41:12 - TRUANCY, WHETHER SIR RESIDENCY

41:13 - VERIFICATION, THAT TYPE OF

41:15 - THING.

41:16 - THE ONLY SECTOR THAT WAS

41:16 - SINGLED OUT IN THIS WAS THE

41:20 - CYBER CHARTER. AND SO, FOR

41:21 - EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, I GO BACK

41:23 - TO THE COMMENT. I'M A

41:24 - PREVIOUSLY ON WHAT THE WELLNESS

41:25 - CHECKS ABOUT MAKING SURE THE

41:27 - STUDENTS ARE SAFE.

41:28 - PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS, ALL

41:30 - BRICKS AND MORTAR CHARTER

41:31 - SCHOOLS. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN

41:35 - VIRTUAL ACADEMIES AS WELL.

41:36 - BUT ALL OF THIS RESIDENCY

41:36 - WELLNESS AND TRUANCY TYPE OF

41:40 - THING WAS JUST THEY SLEEP

41:40 - CENTER ON THE CYBER CHARTER

41:44 - WORLD. SO THE QUESTION I HAVE

41:45 - TO ASK IS IF THE INTENT OF THE

41:46 - LEGISLATURE'S TO MAKE SURE THAT

41:48 - ALL FAMILIES IN PENNSYLVANIA

41:49 - ARE SAFE FOR THEIR STUDENTS ARE

41:50 - BEING TAKEN CARE OF AND THEY

41:53 - ARE SAFE. THEN WHY JUST TAKE

41:53 - ONE SECTOR OUT? WHY NOT APPLY

41:56 - TO ALL PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS

41:57 - WITHIN THE STATE OF

41:59 - PENNSYLVANIA?

42:02 - >>AND WHAT ABOUT THE LEVEL EYE

42:05 - ON EARLY CHILD ARE THERE

42:05 - CERTAIN MANDATES ARE THE THINGS

42:08 - THAT YOU'RE COMPELLED TO DO?

42:11 - >>CAN YOU ENLIGHTEN US? WELL,

42:12 - IN THE EARLY CHILD EDUCATION

42:13 - FIELD, IT'S ABOUT THE HEALTH

42:16 - AND SAFETY OF KIDS. AND SO

42:18 - THERE'S VERY FEW REGULATIONS

42:19 - THAT I LOVE IT. YEAH, THERE ARE

42:20 - VERY FEW REGULATIONS THAT I

42:21 - WOULD SAY WE NEED TO DO AWAY

42:24 - WITH THOSE REGULATIONS ARE

42:27 - THERE FOR JIMENEZ AND REGULATE

42:27 - WELL STAFF TO CHILD RATIOS.

42:28 - FOR EXAMPLE, WE CANNOT EVEN

42:30 - BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT CHANGING

42:31 - THOSE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE

42:34 - DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

42:35 - HEALTHY SAFETY KIDS AND A

42:36 - CHILD, A SON, A CHILD CARE

42:36 - PROGRAMS. AND WE HAVE SEEN

42:39 - ACROSS THE COUNTRY STATES

42:40 - CONSIDERING ON RELAXING SOME OF

42:42 - THOSE RULES. AND WHEN YOU TALK

42:45 - ABOUT LITTLE KIDS WE'RE TALKING

42:47 - ABOUT IN SINCE WE CANNOT BEGIN

42:48 - TO EVEN THINK ABOUT CHANGING

42:48 - HILL STAFF TO CHILD RATIOS.

42:52 - I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO THE

42:54 - WELLNESS CHECKS. I DO BELIEVE

42:57 - THAT I

42:59 - I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS

43:00 - RESISTANCE TO SOME OF THOSE

43:01 - WELLNESS CHECKS IN. I THINK

43:02 - THAT'S WHY THEY WERE

43:03 - IMPLEMENTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

43:05 - I JUST DON'T WANT THERE TO BE

43:08 - THIS NARRATIVE THAT PUBLIC

43:09 - SCHOOLS ARE RESISTANT TO

43:10 - WELLNESS. CHECK SOMETHING.

43:12 - THAT'S WHY WE HAVE GUIDANCE

43:14 - COUNSELORS. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE

43:15 - SCL TEACHERS. THAT'S WHY WE

43:18 - HAVE SOCIAL WORKERS IN OUR

43:18 - SCHOOLS. I THINK THAT'S ALREADY

43:21 - BUILT INTO THE STRUCTURE OF

43:22 - BRICK AND MORTAR PUBLIC

43:24 - SCHOOLS.

43:26 - LET'S TURN AWAY FROM THE

43:27 - SUBJECT OF FUNDING FOR NOW, AT

43:30 - LEAST THE BUDGET

43:31 - PER SE.

43:32 - >>AND LETS CONSIDERS SOMETHING

43:32 - THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE

43:33 - OF EDUCATION. CERTAINLY THAT'S

43:37 - A NUMBER OF TEACHERS WHO ENTER

43:39 - THE FIELD. SO THAT IS THE STATE

43:40 - DOING ANYTHING TO ENCOURAGE

43:43 - PEOPLE TO COME INTO THIS FIELD.

43:44 - HOW DOES HOW DOES THAT LOOK

43:47 - RECENTLY?

43:49 - >>YES, SO YOU WANT TO CYBER

43:50 - CHARTER AS WE INCREASE. OUR

43:51 - SCHOOLS ARE INCREASING

43:52 - ENROLLMENT AND GROWING THAT

43:55 - TYPE

43:57 - OF THING. THE DEMAND THAT IS

43:58 - OUT THERE FOR TEACHERS, THAT

44:02 - TYPE OF THING IS IS GREAT.

44:04 - AND BUT YET THE SAME TIME THE

44:05 - SUPPLY IS IS THERE AS WELL,

44:06 - TOO. AND THEY WANT TO

44:08 - SPECIFICALLY TO CYBER CHARTER,

44:09 - AT LEAST FOR YOUR PURPOSES.

44:10 - YES. SO WHAT WE'RE THAT'S A

44:10 - GOOD QUESTION ARE. SO WHAT

44:11 - WE'RE SEEING A LOT IS.

44:12 - >>NOT ONLY ARE WE SEEING

44:14 - INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE COMING

44:15 - OUT OF COLLEGE THAT ARE GOING

44:17 - TO GO INTO THAT. WE'RE ALSO

44:18 - SEEING RETIRED TEACHERS THAT

44:20 - WANT TO GET BACK INTO THE

44:20 - TEACHING PROFESSION. WE'RE ALSO

44:23 - SEEING BUSINESS LEADERS, YOU

44:24 - KNOW, THE WAY THE CYBER CHARTER

44:28 - LOOKS OUT. IT IS WHATEVER THEY

44:28 - HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL. THEY WANT

44:31 - TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE AN

44:32 - INDIVIDUAL THAT THAT REALLY

44:32 - KNOWS THAT KNOWLEDGE BASE AND

44:33 - REALLY HAS A GOOD UNDERSTANDING

44:34 - OF WHATEVER THE SUBJECT MATTER.

44:38 - SO THAT'S WHY THEY DO HAVE THAT

44:40 - FLEXIBILITY WHERE THEY CAN HIRE

44:41 - INDIVIDUALS THAT MAYBE DON'T

44:44 - HAVE A TEACHING CERTIFICATE.

44:45 - THAT TYPE OF THINGS I THINK OF

44:45 - THESE PATIENTS COME IN AT HOME

44:48 - PROBABLY MOST CASES THEY ARE.

44:49 - >>THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS HAVE

44:50 - DIFFERENT AND SOME HAVE

44:50 - REQUIREMENTS WHERE THEY HAVE

44:54 - TO BE AT ONE OF THE DROP IN

44:57 - OUR FAMILY CENTERS, THE

44:57 - FACILITIES, SOME OF THE MEN CAN

44:59 - BE IT'S JUST IT'S ALL DEPENDING

44:59 - ON WHICH SCHOOL AUGER TALKING

45:02 - ABOUT.

45:04 - >>EVER SINCE COVID, LARRY,

45:06 - WE'VE IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF

45:07 - THE GOVERNOR, ESPECIALLY HE'S

45:07 - HE'S, YOU KNOW, HAD A STUDENT

45:09 - TEACHER STIPEND WHERE STUDENT

45:10 - TEACHERS.

45:11 - >>AND THEIR LAST SEMESTER, THEY

45:15 - GET $10,000 IF THEY IF THEY FOR

45:16 - THEIR STUDENT TEACHING

45:18 - EXPERIENCE. THAT'S BEEN A GREAT

45:19 - BARRIER FOR US TO BREAK DOWN IN

45:21 - PENNSYLVANIA BECAUSE IT KEEPS

45:22 - OUR STUDENT TEACHERS IN THIS

45:23 - PROFESSION WHERE THEY MIGHT BE

45:24 - DROPPING OUT BECAUSE THEY JUST

45:25 - CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT BECAUSE

45:28 - THEY HAVE TO WORK. THAT'S THEIR

45:29 - FULL-TIME JOB. THEY'RE NOT

45:30 - SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANY SIDE.

45:31 - JOBS MAKES IT REALLY HARD.

45:33 - BUT WE KNOW THAT PSTA. WE'VE

45:35 - ALSO INVESTED IN OUR HIGH

45:36 - SCHOOLS. WE'VE HAD EDUCATORS

45:37 - RISING. IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM

45:37 - ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH WHERE

45:40 - HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS

45:41 - ARE GETTING. THE EXPERIENCE IS

45:42 - A AND A LOOK AT WHAT IT TAKES

45:43 - TO BE A PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER.

45:45 - WE'VE SEEN GREAT SUCCESS.

45:46 - I WAS JUST AT AN EVENT 2 WEEKS

45:49 - AGO WHERE THERE'S ABOUT 16

45:49 - TEACHERS, KIDS FROM ONE SCHOOL

45:51 - DISTRICT WHERE THEY WERE

45:53 - SIGNING THEIR LETTER OF INTENT

45:54 - TO GO TO COLLEGE, TO BE

45:55 - TEACHER. SO THERE IS A LOT OF

45:57 - EXCITEMENT OUT THERE. WE JUST

45:58 - NEEDED TO KEEP RECRUITING.

45:59 - AND THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW,

46:01 - WHERE WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST

46:04 - DECADE OR SO OF, YOU KNOW, THE

46:05 - NUMBER OF OF OF TEACHERS COMING

46:07 - INTO OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM GO DOWN.

46:08 - I THINK WE'RE STARTING TO

46:10 - REALLY SEE A REBOUND AND

46:11 - BETWEEN THE GOVERNOR AND OUR

46:12 - EFFORTS. I THINK THERE'S A LOT

46:13 - OF EXCITEMENT BREWING OUT

46:14 - THERE. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO

46:17 - SEE ABOUT A DECADE FROM NOW.

46:19 - REALLY A COMPLETE REVERSAL IN

46:20 - THE TEACHER SHORTAGE. MY WHAT

46:24 - ABOUT RECRUITING FOR EARLY

46:24 - CHILD EDUCATION? AND TELL US

46:25 - BRIEFLY WHAT KIND OF

46:25 - QUALIFICATIONS THAN THESE

46:26 - PEOPLE AT ALL. AND SO GLAD YOU

46:28 - ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I

46:29 - ALWAYS LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT

46:31 - MANY OF THESE EARLY CHILDHOOD

46:32 - TEACHERS HAVE BACHELOR'S

46:33 - DEGREES. SOME OF THEM EVEN HAVE

46:36 - MASTER'S DEGREES. SOME OF THEM

46:36 - ARE EVEN QUALIFIED TO TEACH IN

46:40 - PUBLIC SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY

46:40 - HAVE THE CERTIFICATION TO TEACH

46:41 - UP TO A HIGHER GRADES, BUT THEY

46:42 - CHOOSE TO WORK WITH THE LITTLE

46:43 - KIDS BECAUSE THEY LOVE THEIR

46:46 - JOBS. AND THAT'S WHY THE

46:47 - RECRUITMENT RETENTION FUND FOR

46:50 - CHILD CARE. TEACHERS IS SO

46:50 - IMPORTANT. IT IS NOT JUST MONEY

46:51 - IN THEIR POCKET SO THEY CAN

46:53 - BUY GROCERIES AND PAY FOR GAS.

46:55 - IT'S A RECOGNITION OF THEIR

46:55 - WORK FORCE AND HOW ESSENTIAL

46:58 - THEY ARE TO OUR ECONOMY.

47:01 - >>OUR GUESTS HAVE BEEN MY MIC

47:02 - SAY EXECUTIVES, DIRECTOR OF

47:04 - CHILDREN FIRST PA.

47:05 - >>MARCUS, I EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

47:07 - OF THE PA ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC

47:10 - CYBER CHARTER SCHOOLS AND AARON

47:12 - TAPE AND PRESIDENT OF THE PA

47:14 - STATE AND UK SHUN ASSOCIATION.

47:15 - THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU AND

47:18 - SEE YOU. PC AND ELLEN FRANCE

47:21 - TALKED TO SENATOR KRISTIN

47:21 - PHILLIPS-HILL ABOUT PROPERTY

47:22 - UPGRADES FUNDING BY TAXPAYERS.

47:30 - >>WELCOME TO OUR PROGRAM.

47:31 - YOU PROPOSE LEGISLATION TO

47:32 - PREVENT TAXPAYER DOLLARS FROM

47:34 - BEING USED ON PRIVATE PROPERTY

47:35 - RENOVATIONS. WHAT INSPIRED YOU

47:38 - TO OPPOSE THIS BILL?

47:41 - IT WAS REALLY A DESIRE.

47:42 - TO PROTECT BOTH THE GOVERNOR

47:45 - AND HIS FAMILY.

47:49 - AT THE SAME TIME,

47:50 - PROTECTING TAXPAYERS. SO THE

47:53 - LEGISLATION THAT I CRAFTED

47:54 - SENATE BILL, 1219, SEEKS TO

47:54 - REALLY THREAD THAT IMPORTANT

47:57 - NEEDLE.

48:00 - >>HOW WOULD THIS BILL WORK TO

48:00 - PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING?

48:07 - SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO

48:08 - NOTE THAT THE PROCESS THAT WAS

48:11 - USED BY THE GOVERNOR'S

48:13 - ADMINISTRATION.

48:14 - >>RAISE A LOT OF QUESTIONS

48:15 - ABOUT MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO

48:18 - HIS PERSONAL PROPERTY.

48:21 - WITH REGARD TO THE GOVERNOR'S

48:22 - OFFICIAL RESIDENCE IN PARIS.

48:29 - AND WHAT IT SEEKS TO DO IT IS

48:33 - TOO PUT A TAX

48:35 - ON 2 HIS PROPERTY. SO THAT.

48:41 - TAXPAYERS WOULD BE MADE WHOLE

48:45 - UPON THE SALE WITH THE TRANSFER

48:48 - OF THAT PROPERTY.

48:49 - SO I THINK BACK TO THE

48:50 - HARDWORKING TAXPAYERS IN MY

48:53 - HOME COUNTY OF NEW YORK.

48:54 - I THINK IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT

48:56 - FOR THEM TO IMAGINE HAVING

48:59 - TAXPAYERS PAY FOR UPGRADES

49:02 - ALMOST TWICE THE VALUE OF THE

49:06 - HOME ITSELF. AND SO THAT WAS

49:07 - REALLY DIFFICULT FOR ME FOR

49:09 - MY CONSTITUENTS TO WRAP THEIR

49:13 - HEADS AROUND. SO RECOGNIZING

49:17 - I GUESS IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE

49:19 - GOVERNOR OF THE COMMONWEALTH

49:20 - AND HIS FAMILY TO BE PROTECTED

49:24 - WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE

49:28 - CAN DO THAT IN A WAY.

49:28 - THAT WAS RESPECTFUL OF THE

49:32 - PEOPLE WHO PAY THE BILLS.

49:32 - IF YOU BRIEFLY MENTION THIS,

49:33 - BUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE

49:36 - PROPERTY THEN GETS SOLD?

49:40 - >>SO AT THAT TIME IT WOULD BE

49:43 - THE RESPONSIBILITY. OF THE

49:46 - GOVERNOR TO PAY THE TAXPAYERS

49:49 - BACK.

49:52 - SO THAT WOULD SEEK TO MAKE

49:53 - TAXPAYERS WHOLE FOR THE ALMOST

49:56 - 1.2 MILLION DOLLARS, OTHER

49:59 - IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE. AND COW

50:01 - WHILE ENGAGED IN BY THE

50:04 - COMMONWEALTH.

50:05 - FOR THE GOVERNOR'S PERSONAL

50:09 - WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO YOU TO

50:11 - HAVE TRANSPARENCY WHEN IT COMES

50:11 - TO TAXPAYER FUNDED PROJECTS?

50:15 - >>YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A VERY

50:20 - DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR

50:22 - US TO USED TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO

50:23 - PAY FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO

50:26 - PEOPLE'S PERSON. ALL. RESIDENTS

50:31 - YOU KNOW, IF FUNDS ARE USED

50:34 - FOR A PRIVATE RESIDENCE.

50:35 - WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN THE

50:38 - FUTURE?

50:39 - 4 UNCHECKED SPENDING AND AND

50:42 - POTENTIALLY WHO ELSE MAY

50:45 - QUALIFY FOR THIS TYPE OF

50:46 - SPENDING. WE DON'T HAVE

50:47 - ANYTHING CURRENTLY IN STATUTE

50:50 - WITH REGARD TO WHETHER THIS IS

50:54 - ALLOWED OR NOT ALLOWED. I THINK

50:55 - THAT WE DON'T EXPRESSLY SAY

50:55 - THAT YOU CAN DO. THIS IS A

50:58 - MATTER OF FACT, THE EMERGENCY

51:00 - PROCUREMENT CODE VERY

51:01 - EXPLICITLY STATES THAT YOU CAN

51:04 - NOT DO THIS. SO YOU KNOW WHO

51:06 - ELSE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE? HOW

51:08 - MUCH CAN BE SPENT? HOW WOULD

51:10 - THAT SPENDING BEING MONITORED?

51:12 - HOW WOULD PEOPLE BE REIMBURSED,

51:18 - MEANING THE TAXPAYER WHAT IS

51:20 - CONSIDERED APPROPRIATE WAS

51:21 - NOTHING IS CONTEMPLATED RIGHT

51:23 - NOW.

51:25 - THE LAW DOES NOT SPEAK TO THIS.

51:26 - THE CURRENT CODE SAYS THAT IT

51:30 - CAN'T BE DONE. SO, YOU KNOW,

51:33 - REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THESE

51:34 - FUNDS ARE EXPENDED BY TAXPAYERS

51:39 - HAVE TO REALLY GUARD AGAINST A

51:41 - POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS

51:43 - PRECEDENT. AND AT THE SAME

51:44 - TIME, WE ALSO NEED TO

51:47 - SAFEGUARD.

51:50 - THE GOVERNOR, HIS FAMILY.

51:50 - WE NEED TO SAFEGUARD THE

51:53 - TAXPAYERS. WHAT FEEDBACK HAVE

51:53 - YOU HEARD REGARDING THIS BILL?

51:59 - WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY

52:00 - CONSTITUENTS IS THEY'RE VERY

52:02 - UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

52:05 - THEIR TAXPAYER DOLLARS BE SPENT

52:06 - ON THE GOVERNOR'S PRIVATE

52:10 - RESIDENCE YOU KNOW, THE

52:11 - GOVERNOR'S PERSONAL HOME IS

52:14 - VALUED AT $700,000. SO WE'RE

52:15 - TALKING ABOUT MAKING

52:16 - IMPROVEMENTS THAT COST TWICE

52:21 - AS MUCH AS THEIR HOME IS IS

52:25 - VALUE THAT AND SO THE FEEDBACK

52:26 - FROM MY CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE

52:29 - HARDWORKING TAXPAYERS IS.

52:30 - IT HAS THIS. THIS JUST IS NOT

52:33 - SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE

52:36 - COMFORTABLE WITH. SO AGAIN,

52:38 - THE LEGISLATION SIMPLY SAYS

52:38 - THAT IF THAT MONEY GETS

52:41 - RELEASED.

52:43 - AND WHEN THE SHAPIRO SELL OR

52:46 - TRANSFER

52:47 - THEIR PROPERTY, TAXPAYERS ARE

52:49 - MADE WHOLE. BECAUSE THE STATE

52:54 - WOULD HAVE THAT LEAN ON THEIR

52:59 - PROPERTY. AND SO WITHOUT

53:00 - LEGISLATIVE AUTHORIZATION TO

53:02 - ENGAGE IN THAT SPENDING.

53:05 - AND IT'S A REALLY DANGEROUS

53:06 - PRECEDENT AND WE WILL BE ABLE

53:07 - TO KNOW WHERE TO DRAW THE LINE.

53:10 - SO

53:13 - NO LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY, NO

53:16 - LEGAL PRECEDENT, TOO MANY

53:18 - QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED. AND

53:21 - ADAM. TAXPAYERS AGAIN NEED TO

53:23 - BE MADE WHOLE. AND THERE'S A

53:26 - LOT OF WHAT IFS. WHAT IS THE

53:27 - GOVERNOR HAS A VACATION HOME.

53:30 - WHAT IS THE GOVERNOR HAS A

53:30 - PRIVATE OFFICE? YOU KNOW, ARE

53:34 - WE GOING TO UPGRADE

53:36 - THOSE PLACES TO ENHANCE

53:37 - SECURITY AT THE EXPENSE OF TAX

53:40 - DOLLARS. YOU KNOW.

53:42 - OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. WE'RE

53:44 - NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT A FEW

53:47 - NEW CAMERAS ARE EV MORE SECURE

53:50 - DOORS AND LOCKS.

53:51 - IT'S REALLY A SIGNIFICANT

53:54 - AMOUNT OF MONEY. IT HAS BEEN

53:59 - INVESTED WITH. WE KNOW

54:01 - LEGISLATIVE OVERSIGHT. AND, YOU

54:03 - KNOW, I THINK BACK I'M FROM

54:04 - YORK COUNTY, OUR PREVIOUS

54:06 - GOVERNOR GOVERNOR WOLF. I WAS

54:08 - THIS GOVERNOR'S PREDECESSOR.

54:10 - SHE DID NOT LIVE IN THE

54:11 - GOVERNOR'S MANSION AND THAT WAS

54:15 - HIS CHOICE. GREAT. BUT THE ME

54:17 - TOO MOVEMENT TO HIS OWN

54:18 - PERSONAL PROPERTY WITH HIS OWN

54:21 - MONEY TO ACCOMMODATE.

54:22 - HIS FAMILY'S DESIRE TO REMAIN

54:26 - OUR COUNTY. AND AND WHEN YOU

54:27 - THINK ABOUT IT, WHEN THE

54:28 - SHAPIRO SELL THEIR PRIVATE HOME

54:33 - THERE'S GOING TO BE A FINANCIAL

54:35 - TEAM FROM THE SALE AND THAT

54:37 - SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT OF

54:37 - ALMOST $1.2 BY THE TAXPAYERS.

54:40 - SO

54:41 - I'VE BEEN CHARGED BY THE PEOPLE

54:45 - THAT I REPRESENT WITH THE

54:47 - RESPONSIBILITY TO STAND UP FOR

54:48 - THEM. AND AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE

54:50 - TO STAND UP AND SAY. AGAIN,

54:55 - WE HAVE TO PUT TAXPAYERS INTO

55:00 - A PLACE A PRIORITY AS WELL AS

55:02 - THE GOVERNOR SAFETY AT HIS

55:04 - FAMILY'S SAFETY. WE HAVE TO

55:05 - MAKE SURE WE DON'T SET A REALLY

55:08 - DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. SO WHETHER

55:08 - THE FUNDS ARE APPROPRIATE OR

55:13 - NOT. WE NEED A BACKSTOP.

55:16 - AND THAT BACKSTOP SENATE BILL

55:19 - 1219, REALLY

55:20 - TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS

55:23 - PAIR IS A REALLY ANYONE ELSE

55:26 - WHO SITS IN THAT POSITION OF

55:27 - GOVERNOR. WE'RE NOT USING THE

55:30 - GOVERNOR'S OFFICIAL OFFICE FOR

55:34 - A PRIVATE CULINARY BENEFIT IN

55:36 - KNOTS. REALLY WHAT SENATE BILL,

55:39 - 12, 19 IS ABOUT. SENATOR

55:40 - KRISTIN PHILLIPS-HILL, THANK

55:42 - YOU FOR JOINING US. THANK YOU.

55:49 - THANKS TO ALLEN FOR THAT

55:50 - INTERVIEW. HERE'S A REMINDER

55:51 - ABOUT ON THE ISSUES THIS WEEK.

55:53 - OUR GUESTS WILL BE ROXANNE

55:54 - BROWN.

55:56 - >>THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE

55:56 - UNITED STEELWORKERS. SHE'LL BE

56:00 - HERE TOMORROW AT 07:00PM.

56:01 - THAT'S IT FROM THE PCN CAPITAL

56:03 - WHERE KASPER. THANKS FOR

56:06 - WATCHING.