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00:27 - Welcome to keystone education report where Pennsylvania's education leaders come

00:32 - together to discuss the issues shaping our schools today we're focusing on another

00:37 - critical component of student learning

00:39 - the arts in education

00:41 - joining us are three leaders with experience in arts education and curriculum

00:44 - dr Michael panza is a lie lifelong music educator and former superintendent dr

00:49 - Lindsay stock serves as director of curriculum for the reading school district

00:53 - and Kyle zwick is president of the American

00:56 - choral directors association of Pennsylvania

00:58 - and an associate professor of music

01:01 - and director of choral activities at Lebanon valley college

01:04 - thank you all for being here today

01:06 - thank you.

01:07 - So let's jump right into it what is in your opinion the

01:10 - current state of music and choral education music education

01:15 - across Pennsylvania

01:16 - your

01:17 - you head up the state association

01:19 - happy.

01:20 - Things are great i was

01:23 - had the privilege of attending the Pennsylvania music

01:25 - education associate Asian conference just last week

01:28 - where all of the top.

01:30 - Performers

01:32 - state all the all the all state ensembles meat

01:34 - and educators come for professional development

01:37 - and it was just wonderful

01:39 - and very inspiring to see all of the best of the best come together to learn from one

01:43 - another and perform for one another

01:45 - and that being

01:46 - said it's kind of like Pennsylvania's highlight reel

01:50 - where we're only seeing at that

01:52 - stage the best of the best so i think it's important that we also remember.

01:56 - The folks that aren't represented there and

01:59 - where where we have some work to do.

02:02 - Because

02:03 - while the the kids that were there have really great.

02:06 - Music educ cation

02:08 - their students across the state that don't have those same opportunities so while

02:11 - we're doing well with so many of them

02:14 - i think there's

02:15 - an opportunity to do even better with some of the

02:18 - the communities that aren't getting as much music education.

02:22 - Lizzie

02:23 - i would say

02:24 - from my seat and certainly you know thinking about the role that music plays in

02:28 - what tends to take the topic

02:31 - you know for a curriculum director and really be the focus which is literacy rate

02:35 - and from my vantage point making sure that when we are focusing on increasing

02:39 - literacy for all of our students we see the power

02:42 - of musa education as a part of that planning.

02:45 - It's not that we only focus on e l a or math instruction in our schools is to see

02:50 - the arts and how they help us to grow our students as literate individuals

02:54 - i think the other piece of this too is

02:56 - what gets our kids to school

02:58 - and let's be honest what gets our kids to school as the arts

03:01 - that's what they love until we want to increase attendance

03:04 - we want to continue to focus on the arts and education as being a partner in helping

03:08 - our students to become more literate.

03:10 - Like

03:11 - i'm so glad you said that you lead right

03:13 - into what i wanted to say first thing

03:15 - we do in Pennsylvania

03:17 - we educate about one point seven million students

03:20 - more than seventy percent one point two million stood ants

03:23 - are participating in the arch in our schools as we speak today

03:26 - preparing for today i was talking to my daughter who is a music educator as well

03:31 - and she said she was at a meeting with her administration

03:34 - and they were talking right now

03:36 - there are arts and music program

03:38 - is first period of the day

03:40 - and they were talking about moving the last period of the administrators shit

03:43 - absolutely not

03:44 - they said why

03:45 - they said they found that because the music classes first period of the day

03:49 - attendance is better students are coming to school on time because they don't want to

03:52 - miss their art class yet so it staying first period because students

03:56 - really look forward to this.

03:59 - I hear what you're saying let me let me try to go a little bit further on this.

04:03 - Talk about how the arts programs in the schools

04:06 - kind of impact those students that maybe you're

04:08 - struggling to connect with the more traditional

04:11 - academic programs at the academic setting i

04:14 - heard you say a little bit about it but

04:15 - can you talk a little more about that certainly at the research suggests that one of

04:19 - the most imp portant things about education in general is the sense of belonging that

04:23 - students feel when they come to school

04:25 - so one of the best ways for students to feel as though they belong is for them to be

04:29 - a part of something that's bigger than themselves so not just to be a student at the

04:32 - school but to be a part of some sort of

04:34 - niche

04:35 - part of the school so whether that be a sports team

04:37 - or that be a club where it be

04:39 - no musical theater or it be chorus or it'd be the band

04:43 - that is really what kids feel helps them

04:46 - along so for me it's one of those things that we try to promote immediately upon

04:51 - students entering the writing school district

04:53 - what are the ways that you can find your people

04:55 - within a very large system such as ours i mean we have

04:58 - twenty schools seventeen thousand students approaching so

05:01 - how can you find your where

05:03 - your folks that are going to make you feel like you belong so to me that is probably

05:06 - one of the most powerful things that

05:08 - that the arts provide for our students as well.

05:11 - Likely

05:12 - follow on that you as you

05:13 - as i said during the introduction you know

05:15 - long time music educator or administrator so

05:17 - you've kind of seen this arc

05:19 - of a of the arts programs over a couple of different roles that you played

05:23 - what changes have you seen in terms of of students'

05:26 - needs in terms of of what students are interested in

05:29 - how's how's of the arts in our public education changed over.

05:33 - The last twenty years

05:34 - of cornwall.

05:36 - In many ways first thing of

05:38 - the cost just to participate and our little school district

05:41 - where he received a Grant of twenty thousand dollars just to buy instruments because.

05:47 - Some of our students.

05:48 - Every student article industry eats breakfast and lunch for free.

05:52 - How do they pay for an instrument and how do they pay for music

05:55 - lessons

05:56 - and so because of the Grant that we received

05:59 - we became a summer school

06:01 - and we were able to purchase instruments for our students

06:04 - and we've got a lot more thirty forty more students involved in the music program

06:09 - and as it was being set as well

06:11 - for not use a musical term but for some students artists are fourteen

06:15 - and

06:16 - that

06:17 - why they come to school

06:18 - and as you said.

06:20 - Aren't whether it's the literature whether it is the performing with a visual art

06:25 - that is the true performance class

06:28 - you know a student doesn't go out there and show what they learned in history

06:31 - or in science

06:33 - putting the hearts there for hanging that picture

06:36 - they're reading their poem

06:37 - they're performing their music it makes such a difference today

06:41 - and i think

06:42 - we just had our musical we had

06:43 - close to

06:45 - almost fifteen percent of our student body

06:47 - involved in the musical

06:48 - and that brings students

06:49 - we had football players.

06:52 - Know

06:52 - people from all grade levels from grades four through twelve that involve

06:57 - united not only the school but the community.

07:01 - You see students kind of coming out of our public schools in our private schools

07:04 - and get them at Lebanon valley college what are you seeing in terms of trends with

07:08 - with students that are coming in and enrolling in the music program

07:11 - while the passion is still there the passion that they they get from being in music

07:15 - programs in the school whether it's the musical or the the choir or

07:18 - whatever it's still there and so often we just get to

07:22 - pick up where they're at meet them where they are and

07:25 - see how far we can get them for the next four years

07:27 - i think there are certainly some challenges that young people face these days and

07:31 - music is a great way for us to teach them empathy and

07:34 - how to be a human and how to collaborate with one another

07:38 - and these are things that they're doing in highschool

07:40 - and like i said we just take them where they are and

07:42 - and we continue to to take them

07:44 - to new heights one of the

07:45 - wonderful things about Lebanon valley college's about a third of our student body is

07:50 - involved in music so we have a lot of non majors

07:53 - that are coming through the music building and they're

07:56 - in the marching band and in the choir and the orchestra

07:59 - and our jazz ensemble so so

08:01 - just

08:02 - continuing to give them

08:04 - the outlet that they needed in highschool

08:06 - and and bring that through through the college experience while also making them

08:10 - professionals as music educators the ones that choose to

08:14 - dedicate their lives to that.

08:16 - You all kind of represent a cross section of different types of

08:19 - sizes of communities where we go from kind of room rural too

08:22 - are called suburban

08:23 - outside of Harrisburg

08:24 - to an urban school district

08:26 - are the barriers for students to be able to get into the arts programs are different

08:31 - based on the

08:32 - community are they all the same

08:34 - what are what are people facing to say

08:36 - i want to get into the arts

08:37 - i think one of the things that was

08:39 - interesting for me to learn about was in shifting from working in upper moreland

08:43 - school district in Montgomery county

08:45 - to coming to reading school district

08:48 - was you know we would run a lot of programming

08:50 - before school

08:51 - right after school things like that

08:53 - and in reading you know

08:55 - that is a challenge for some of our families

08:57 - to get their children to school early there's

08:59 - families that are really working hard

09:01 - the multiple jobs you know things of that nature and and so

09:04 - trying to find time that is you know available to us during the school day for

09:08 - students to be involved is certainly a barrier because there's a lot of things that

09:11 - are important that we need to make sure happens during the school day

09:14 - so a lot of this is a time constraint right

09:16 - pulling on time and in school schedules

09:18 - by

09:19 - the story we heard earlier

09:20 - we need to make sure that this is a part of the conversation

09:23 - when we're making these important systemic decisions

09:26 - same thing

09:27 - with budgeting you know this is not an afterthought

09:29 - so making sure that if you haven't you know the arts department art music and

09:34 - health and pe all these types of.

09:36 - Family

09:37 - consumer science science

09:38 - as an example as while

09:40 - making sure they're part of your curricula review cycle because that has fiscal

09:43 - implications when are we replacing instruments

09:46 - when are we looking at new programming

09:47 - how are we making connections to local universities and community organizations are

09:52 - reading music foundation is incredibly supportive

09:54 - of the work that our students do in our schools

09:57 - but we have to make and they reach out to us all the time but we have to make that a

10:00 - priority one more decision making

10:02 - it's not an afterthought.

10:04 - Like you said in both the scoreboard share the

10:07 - director chair the superintendent share i mean what do you see

10:10 - i couldn't agree with you more.

10:12 - Music

10:13 - that allows the students to understand it covers both the social and emotional

10:18 - aspects where some schools don't

10:20 - that makes them a team.

10:22 - It brings the community together just go to

10:25 - more people will see your band

10:26 - at a football game

10:28 - than at a concert

10:29 - and it is so important

10:31 - and called

10:32 - summer that you said that i have to really agree with

10:35 - music is a lifetime activity

10:38 - you know somebody might stop playing a sport after high school or

10:41 - you know the

10:42 - music

10:43 - will go on forever

10:45 - you know there's so many community bands or community theater or other opportunities

10:50 - to take your talent and your

10:52 - your

10:52 - or passion forward

10:54 - it's for a lifetime

10:55 - i'm

10:55 - currently conducting

10:56 - a community band

10:58 - and you know it's a volunteer group of about thirty people

11:01 - but

11:01 - they're there because they love music and they love what they do.

11:06 - And in the

11:06 - rural or suburban area and

11:09 - one

11:10 - hat that I've enjoyed recently as banned dad because my own

11:14 - kiddo has

11:15 - decided to pick up an instrument and start playing

11:17 - and and in our

11:19 - school district and vocally on a school district wonderful district great music

11:22 - education the barrier was very low it was a sign up for band

11:26 - if you don't have an instrument you can't

11:27 - get an instrument will provide an instrument

11:30 - but it was really wonderful to hear you say

11:32 - and

11:33 - i hope that other school districts can use you as an example of.

11:37 - Of making sure that it is curricular and it's

11:39 - not before school or after school it's a part of

11:42 - everything it's it's it's own special thing we don't just do this as an extra.

11:47 - We do this because

11:48 - it matters very much.

11:50 - I'm going to go back to something that.

11:52 - You talked about earlier about funding

11:55 - and

11:55 - sort of coming up to a new budget cycle you're

11:57 - sitting in a

11:59 - school board chair right now with a budget not pass

12:02 - to

12:02 - go vembu last year

12:04 - it makes it very difficult for us

12:06 - so i'm hoping that the powers that be understand the impact that it has

12:10 - on

12:11 - all of our students they talk about mental health they talk about student wellness

12:15 - and we cannot provide those services and

12:17 - funding for the art needs to be continued

12:20 - at all levels k through twelve and post secondary

12:23 - so that the students can continue to grow

12:25 - in the activities that they love to do.

12:29 - Funding

12:30 - wish

12:31 - that

12:32 - whole episode unto itself

12:33 - but but

12:34 - i'm curious and for folks that are that are watching.

12:38 - You mentioned the July budget you don't talk about just in general the the impact of

12:42 - of funding or lack thereof and what it does to your arts programs which again

12:46 - represent kind of different size schools

12:48 - but i would think or some similar challenges are

12:50 - well i also sit on my intermediate

12:52 - board

12:53 - we had to take out an eight million dollar anticipation note

12:56 - because we didn't know when the budget was coming

12:58 - now we didn't have to dip into that

13:00 - but we still we paid it back we still had to pay interest

13:03 - so money we could have paid for the students.

13:06 - Went to pay off the loan

13:07 - at my local school district we were using our local

13:10 - fund balance

13:11 - to help pay for our bills

13:12 - money we quit we lost about thirty to forty thousand dollars

13:15 - that might not sound like a lot

13:17 - but in a very small rural school district and

13:19 - a half a mil

13:21 - for us

13:22 - so it has a great impact

13:23 - so we have to decide are we going to buy new band uniforms or we go by choral music

13:27 - are we going to buy other arts applies.

13:30 - We can't do that when the budget is late

13:32 - and

13:32 - i'm just hoping

13:33 - that as they're into this budget cycle right now

13:36 - that they understand the long term implications what happens

13:39 - that they can

13:40 - make this happen a little sooner than later this year

13:43 - Lindsay only thing same thing with with a large school district

13:46 - but probably magnified

13:47 - certainly and

13:48 - know it has an impact and like you said of

13:50 - making some decisions about you know how do you have to keep the doors open first and

13:54 - foremost right we have to keep our kids safe we have to keep our staff

13:57 - unable to come to work all those types of decisions and and our

14:01 - board and our administrative cabinet did an

14:03 - incredible job of navigating a very very challenging

14:06 - situation this past

14:08 - spring summer fall

14:09 - to try to make sure that we were able to continue to run our programming without

14:12 - interruption it was a really masterful to watch Barry

14:15 - a little bit of a

14:17 - scary time for everyone i would say but

14:19 - certainly hopeful that

14:20 - our legislators are able to continue to work together collaboratively collegiately

14:24 - to ensure that you know that regardless of your political

14:27 - perspective that education remains a major focus

14:31 - for how we are moving as a commonwealth

14:34 - because you know education is truly what drives our society right

14:39 - and so we want to keep the doors open keep the funding coming so that we can continue

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14:45 - our students regardless of where they live.

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16:31 - Welcome back to keystone education report we're joined again by the doctors dr

16:35 - Michael panza dr Lindsay stock and doctor Kyle's like

16:38 - as we continue our discussion on the arts in education in Pennsylvania

16:43 - by going to start with you while we were quick

16:45 - at a break you mentioned a quote from Michelangelo

16:46 - i thought that was a great place to start.

16:50 - Michael when

16:51 - we talk about all the arts

16:52 - and when Michael Angela he looked at this big stone

16:56 - and he said he's in there i have to let them out

16:58 - and it

16:59 - took him three years in the car then the statue of David

17:02 - and i think that's what we were just talking we do with students

17:04 - they have that talent they have the potential

17:07 - and here we are as

17:08 - guides on the side not the rage on the stage

17:11 - to help bring that out of the student students

17:13 - and arts allow that the creativity look at all the different

17:17 - we look at

17:18 - the visual the tactile the auditory the

17:21 - the different learning styles that the arts cover it's just wonderful

17:24 - yeah absolutely i think that's i mean what schools need to and i think it's a

17:28 - misconception to think that we are

17:30 - real giving children anything certainly in you know twenty twenty six when it's the

17:33 - information age i think what we're really doing is helping

17:36 - students to grow their skills and find their passions

17:39 - and think

17:40 - about what's already inside of them and i think

17:43 - ultimately you know that's really what we're trying to do

17:46 - students need to find an outlet for all that creativity and that energy and that

17:50 - passion and the arts provides that opportunity

17:53 - ultimately to i think some of the most.

17:56 - Innovative educators are our educators in the

17:59 - in the arts and all i remember in upper moreland our band director

18:02 - director Glen cowan was

18:04 - the

18:04 - absolute best teacher in that school.

18:07 - Truly incredible and to watch him stand in front of

18:10 - so seventy five students and make the most beautiful music come out

18:14 - in this

18:15 - little room that we had for him to view his work was just

18:18 - unbelievable and the competitions that they would win

18:21 - and the level of passion that those students had for that

18:24 - and it was just

18:25 - really inspiring but again

18:27 - we are trying to get students to be performative it's

18:30 - ultimately win your PR you know

18:31 - taking an assessment it's

18:33 - it's a performance of what you know and and what you've learned

18:36 - and that's really why you do every single day in arts classrooms.

18:40 - Will talk about teacher say you mentioned

18:42 - how amazing

18:43 - some of these arts teachers are

18:44 - from a

18:45 - college perspective.

18:47 - How how's that working out in terms of

18:49 - the number of students

18:51 - coming into Lebanon valley other schools across Pennsylvania

18:54 - and saying you know i want to go into the arts instruction

18:57 - to have enough for you know

18:59 - there's

18:59 - there's

19:00 - a teacher shortage still

19:01 - and our

19:03 - our music education majors graduate as seniors

19:05 - and have jobs usually before graduation

19:08 - they usually have more than one

19:10 - job offer opportunity available to them and so

19:13 - we need great music teachers right now

19:16 - music in Pennsylvania the certification as k

19:18 - twelve music so we have to prepare them to be

19:21 - orchestra choir band general music modern band.

19:25 - Guitar music technology keyboard and that's a high order it's a really high order for

19:31 - us to to prepare them for that but they have to be ready

19:33 - and for for the their future students and we just we get a lot of really passionate

19:39 - and wonderful young people and that's always a joy to see

19:42 - them go out into the world and start making a difference

19:46 - but

19:46 - anyone out there that has this passion for music education

19:50 - there is a

19:50 - desperate need

19:51 - for you.

19:52 - Mike Lindsay the need in your districts right now are you.

19:56 - Facing a shortage of teachers in the arts

19:59 - i think just a shortage of teachers in general

20:01 - that's something that's pretty scary for all of us and i

20:03 - think you know in terms of retention of really talented

20:06 - educators in general in particular teachers in the arts

20:09 - and

20:09 - the professional development that's poor

20:12 - the teachers of the arts in all of our teachers has to beat up top quality

20:16 - and

20:16 - econo teachers in in the arts cannot be an afterthought

20:19 - when you're planning a professional development day

20:21 - what they do is equally as important to the social

20:24 - studies teacher the science teacher the math teacher

20:27 - on for all of the reasons that we've discussed today so

20:29 - making sure that you're prioritizing those folks

20:32 - you're giving them the opportunity to ask for things that are specific to their knees

20:36 - because in fact they are experts in their field

20:39 - and sending folks in the arts to go out

20:42 - of the district to see

20:43 - other school districts perform or seek to work with

20:47 - educators and other school districts is

20:49 - really a powerful thing to attend conferences.

20:52 - Is something that again it takes money right it takes prioritize a prioritization

20:57 - and the understanding of administration and the school board to be supportive and i

21:01 - feel incredibly blessed in reading

21:02 - that we have such an incredibly supportive

21:05 - administration school board that sees the value in that

21:08 - and make sure

21:09 - that our educators have those types of opportunities.

21:12 - Small world

21:13 - district like monitor where i serve we've recently how

21:17 - to music teachers.

21:19 - For our last interview.

21:21 - We were only brought one candidate

21:23 - ma and

21:24 - when we have the openings for the band

21:26 - we have less than a half a dozen people won't

21:28 - even apply for the position they we only have two people

21:32 - that came to the final interview

21:33 - so.

21:35 - Being in the rural area it's even more difficult than

21:38 - if you're in that suburban area.

21:40 - If i

21:41 - yeah like i

21:42 - said you wanted to talk a little bit about.

21:44 - The place

21:45 - yes i also serve on my local intermediate board

21:48 - and they have an art show every year called the very special arts exhibit

21:52 - and i brought with me

21:54 - each year they

21:55 - produce

21:56 - a t-shirt

21:57 - this t-shirt was

22:00 - done by one of the students within the intermediate unit

22:02 - this student is legally blind

22:05 - and the pie point that i'd like to make is that.

22:08 - The arch

22:09 - touch

22:09 - all of our students every single day

22:12 - you know and it's going to be that way forever

22:14 - look at the graphic design on t v you share it

22:17 - when you walk anywhere the the designs that they see in the music

22:21 - if you go to any amusement park

22:23 - the first thing you do is see things you hear

22:25 - thinks

22:26 - and it takes that professional it takes

22:28 - what you're doing at the secondary level what you're supporting

22:31 - over and reading

22:32 - all the time it's going to make the difference

22:34 - not just now for the students

22:36 - but for the rest of their life.

22:38 - If i could add

22:39 - sometimes there's data out there that says music

22:42 - makes people smarter and math and things like this

22:45 - if that's true.

22:50 - It also makes me a little sad because when music is it's own important thing

22:55 - and it's something that we need to do not because it makes

22:57 - us better at something else but because it's it's one

23:00 - really important thing

23:02 - and remember what Paul hindemith said

23:04 - Paul hindemith was a

23:05 - very famous composer and arranger

23:07 - and he said remember the people who make music together cannot be enemies

23:11 - not at least not while the music lasts.

23:14 - Creature of

23:14 - the unquote.

23:16 - We we wouldn't be able to have this discussion if we didn't talk a little bit about

23:19 - kind of what you see coming in terms of the needs from

23:23 - your local school boards will put you on the

23:24 - spot as a school board president and a second

23:27 - but but we'll what as you look at the administration

23:29 - as you look at at the governance of school districts

23:32 - can be done to make sure that we're advancing the arts

23:35 - Wednesday

23:36 - i would say you know at least

23:38 - from my experience in writing at we have always

23:42 - prioritize the arts so that is something i'm i'm don't want to speak for anyone but

23:46 - i'm sure we will endeavour to continue to do

23:49 - we celebrate the arts in writing it's such a beautiful

23:52 - part of our school district and something we're incredibly proud of i know

23:55 - and all of the you no football games that I've sat at

23:58 - and this is just one part of our really beautiful arts program

24:03 - is the level of pride that watching our students perform in public brings to the

24:07 - school district we have a lot of pry a new red night pride

24:10 - which is a beautiful thing and this is just adding to it and something that

24:14 - is incredibly important to us and so

24:16 - on our board members of

24:18 - the the attend so many of our performances

24:21 - now that we just had the play at height the high school

24:24 - so they i know that many of them attended that so

24:26 - just presents two is really incredibly important

24:29 - and shouting out those kids and those educators during

24:32 - public meetings

24:33 - which is something that they do all the time

24:35 - is it's just such a beautiful thing to see say.

24:38 - Like.

24:39 - It is important

24:40 - that school board members

24:42 - continue to support the arch because it just doesn't start in twelfth grade it's

24:47 - in kindergarten

24:48 - it's a growth all the time as i said with our mutual

24:52 - we had three of our school board members

24:55 - who are musical parents.

24:57 - Bad parents that are there

25:00 - and it is important for them not just

25:02 - to fund it

25:03 - but to attend those concerts

25:04 - to see.

25:06 - What the Irish do this for accomplishing along the way

25:09 - we cannot at any point in time have it as a second thought

25:14 - it needs to be right there.

25:16 - Putting on the the collegiate high

25:17 - does as public schools send students to

25:20 - what can they do to make sure that that

25:22 - will stay vibrant

25:23 - so.

25:24 - Oftentimes when we offer

25:26 - more things to our students sometimes we forget that that's stretching our teachers

25:32 - and so

25:33 - the support for music doesn't end with giving more options to our students

25:37 - it's also saying to our music teachers what do you need to be successful for this

25:42 - because if we're going to give them

25:44 - we're going to say yeah we're going to do all this stuff

25:46 - for the arts well who's going to do it the teachers are

25:48 - okay are you asking them to do more than

25:50 - they've already done so i would just encourage

25:52 - board members to always think about

25:55 - the

25:55 - the extra carry that it puts on on them because music teachers will always say easter

25:59 - though some of the gas people in the world

26:01 - and the the the always rise to the occasion but they'll get tired

26:05 - and so it's important that we

26:07 - support them as well.

26:09 - Last thing i want to ask you all is to kind of put on your

26:12 - your your

26:13 - future forward hat here and

26:15 - look five ten years down the road you know what

26:17 - what is it going to take to maintain a vibrant.

26:21 - Energetic

26:22 - arts curriculum in our schools we've talked about funding but but what else is out

26:26 - there if if you could wave your wand and say ten years from now

26:29 - this is what we're going to need this is how it'll work out.

26:32 - Vision

26:33 - commitment dedication

26:35 - knowing that

26:36 - as we said at the beginning.

26:39 - Music

26:40 - arts weathers performing whether it's writing poetry anything

26:43 - for some of these students

26:45 - that's therefore

26:46 - this is what they do and supporting those students

26:49 - throughout their entire

26:50 - school career and even post secondary

26:53 - it's what it's going to take an entire community takes a community to raise a child

26:56 - and this is just one part of raising that child

26:59 - has to be that commitment dedication

27:01 - not just funding

27:02 - but supporting them along the ways they do

27:04 - look at the band parents

27:06 - how many meals that they've missing the transportation

27:09 - and

27:10 - you know trimming up the uniforms and

27:12 - other

27:13 - thinks that they did getting students to their lessons into

27:16 - the bay camps and everything else so

27:18 - it's going to take that commitment

27:19 - from

27:20 - everybody for the whole community

27:21 - got i would say the future's bright

27:23 - music is

27:25 - making music as an ensembles one thing the AI is not going to take away from us

27:29 - in making making music together as a as a very human act

27:33 - and.

27:34 - When AI increases in our education experience we're still going to be doing it the

27:40 - old fashioned way and i think that's a beautiful thing

27:43 - and i think

27:44 - the landscape of the world is ever-changing right but i think that

27:48 - to both of your points there

27:49 - your music is a unifying

27:52 - element of the human experience and so we need to continue to remember that so

27:57 - it's not that our kids can

27:59 - graduate from high school

28:01 - reading writing thinking critically

28:03 - doing math proficiently all of

28:05 - those are critical keys to their success in their future however

28:08 - we also need to see the value and support that

28:11 - valued in hearts as well it is equally as important

28:15 - we've got about fifteen seconds left i want to ask each of your pitch on the spot

28:18 - favorite artist.

28:20 - Oh my gosh.

28:22 - Whoo.

28:23 - Hindemith there's one but

28:25 - still classical bach Beethoven go back to the basic box boxset

28:28 - simplicity shows the master alright

28:30 - classical i would have to go with divorce ok

28:33 - ok ok i'm going to be the

28:35 - the outlier here Kendrick Lamar.

28:39 - I

28:39 - can tell you one correct answer was Chicago.

28:43 - That's

28:43 - a whole.

28:45 - Thank you all for being here thank

28:46 - you

28:47 - thanks for tuning in to the keystone education report today

28:50 - we discuss the role of the arts in Pennsylvania schools

28:53 - and how this support student learning and engagement these conversations highlight

28:57 - how access to the arts helps create well rounded

29:00 - educational experiences for students throughout the state

29:03 - join us next time as we continue exp boring the issues

29:06 - shaping public education across the commonwealth.

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