00:05 - >>THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS

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00:10 - BANK.

00:21 - >>WELCOME TO THE PC AND CAPITAL

00:24 - PREVIEW. AND FRANCINE SHIRTS

00:27 - ARE TODAY. WE'LL DISCUSS SOME

00:28 - VOTING LAWS IN PENNSYLVANIA.

00:28 - BUT FIRST, WE'RE JOINED BY

00:29 - CARTER WALKER REPORTER WITH

00:30 - BOTH FEET. THANKS FOR JOINING

00:32 - US TODAY. THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

00:36 - THE U.S. SUPREME COURT'S

00:36 - DECISION IN A LOUISIANA VOTING

00:37 - RIGHTS CASE LAST WEEK MAKES IT

00:39 - HARDER TO CHALLENGE. POLITICAL

00:41 - MAPS IS BEING RACIALLY

00:42 - DISCRIMINATORY. PEOPLE SEE THIS

00:43 - AFFECTING PENNSYLVANIA'S

00:45 - LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS.

00:46 - >>YEAH, THIS PROBABLY ISN'T

00:48 - GOING TO HAVE MUCH OF AN EFFECT

00:50 - ON PENNSYLVANIA. THESE RACIALLY

00:52 - GERRYMANDERED MAPS HAVE BEEN A

00:53 - BIG ISSUE IN THE SOUTH, BUT NOT

00:55 - SO MUCH HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA.

00:59 - AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE WAY

01:01 - STATE WORKS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE

01:04 - OUR RACIAL POPULATION CENTER

01:05 - EARLY, BUT THE COVERAGE AROUND

01:10 - THE CITY CENTERS AND BECAUSE OF

01:11 - HOW THEY ARE DISPERSED IN

01:12 - THERE, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE

01:14 - IT NECESSARY TO. WE'RE ACTUALLY

01:17 - JERRY MAN TO GAIN PARTISAN

01:18 - ADVANTAGE. SO TRADITIONALLY,

01:19 - THE PARTIES HERE IN

01:21 - PENNSYLVANIA HAVE ENGAGED IN

01:22 - THAT A CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL.

01:26 - THERE IS A CASE CITING WHAT WAS

01:26 - AT ISSUE IN THIS SUPREME COURT

01:29 - CASE OUT OF HAZLETON. BUT

01:30 - THAT'S THAT'S IN A LOCAL SCHOOL

01:32 - DISTRICT RACE. NOT A

01:33 - CONGRESSIONAL MAP.

01:34 - >>LET'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF

01:35 - BACKGROUND WAS THE ORIGINAL

01:35 - INTENT OF SECTION 2 IN THE

01:38 - VOTING RIGHTS ACT.

01:39 - >>SECTION 2 IS AIMED AT

01:40 - PREVENTING RACIAL

01:43 - DISCRIMINATION

01:45 - IN VOTING AND THE WAY THAT

01:46 - OFTEN PLAYS OUT IS THAT PEOPLE

01:48 - WILL USE THAT SECTION TO SAY,

01:50 - HEY, THIS CONGRESSIONAL

01:51 - DISTRICT IS ILLEGALLY

01:54 - GERRYMANDERED AND IS

01:54 - PREVENTING A THIS GROUP OF THIS

01:55 - RACE FROM ELECTING A CANDIDATE

01:59 - OF THEIR CHOICE. AND SO THAT

02:01 - WAS WHAT WAS AT ISSUE IN

02:04 - LOUISIANA.

02:05 - >>THEY BE.

02:06 - >>WORKS THERE FELT THAT THE

02:07 - MAPS WERE DENY BLACK VOTERS,

02:10 - THEIR ABILITY TO SELECT

02:11 - CANDIDATES OF THEIR CHOICE.

02:14 - SO 2 DISTRICTS WE'RE DRAWN TO

02:15 - GIVE BLACK VOTERS A MAJORITY

02:17 - THAT THEY CAN SELECT A

02:20 - CANDIDATE THAT ALIGN WITH THEIR

02:21 - VIEWS OF SUPREME COURT SAID

02:22 - THAT THAT IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE IT

02:24 - IS TAKING RACE DIRECTLY INTO

02:25 - ACCOUNT WHEN DRAWING THE

02:27 - BOUNDARIES OF THOSE MAP.

02:28 - EVEN THOUGH THE INTENT WAS TO

02:32 - GIVE THEM POLITICAL POWER WHEN

02:34 - A LOT OF TIMES THE CHALLENGE TO

02:35 - THIS TO THIS LATEST BATCH OF

02:37 - STRONG AS PREVENTING POLITICAL

02:38 - POWER. THE SUPREME COURT SAID,

02:39 - LOOK, WE WE CAN'T TAKE RACE

02:40 - INTO THE CONSIDERATION OF THE

02:43 - AREA AND I DIRECTION.

02:44 - >>BEING THAT THE UNITED STATES

02:46 - IS MORE RACIALLY DIVERSE TODAY

02:48 - THAN IT WAS WHEN THIS PROVISION

02:49 - WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN IN 1965.

02:50 - IS THIS PROVISION STILL

02:53 - NECESSARY?

02:54 - >>WELL, THERE ARE FOLKS THAT

02:55 - ARE YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, THE

02:56 - COUNTRY HAS EVOLVED BEYOND THE

02:58 - TIME WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN,

03:02 - BUT THEIR COURSES, PEOPLE STILL

03:03 - SAY NO. BLACK PLAYERS FACED

03:03 - DISCRIMINATION OF POLLED

03:06 - VOTERS. BUT ARE THE COLORS

03:07 - FACE DISCRIMINATION IN OUR

03:07 - COUNTRY? AND SO WE STILL NEED

03:08 - THESE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE.

03:11 - >>NOW, A MOMENT AGO, YOU JUST

03:12 - REFERRED TO A CASE IN HAZLETON

03:14 - THAT THIS PROVISION IS BEING

03:15 - INFO TO REGARDING THE HAZLETON

03:16 - CITY COUNCIL. CAN YOU EXPLAIN

03:18 - WHAT HAPPENED THERE?

03:19 - >>RIGHT. YEAH. THERE'S 2 CASES

03:21 - AT A HAZLETON. ONE WAS AGAINST

03:23 - THE WAY THAT THE CITY DROVER IT

03:25 - CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS. THEY

03:28 - HAVE AN AT-LARGE VOTING

03:30 - DISTRICT ELECTION METHOD AND

03:31 - UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION,

03:34 - THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAS

03:35 - SUED THE AS THE CITY UNDER

03:38 - SECTION 2 SAYING THAT WAS

03:41 - PREVENTING HISPANIC VOTERS FROM

03:41 - ELECTING CANDIDATES OF THEIR

03:42 - CHOICE WHEN THE TRUMP

03:43 - ADMINISTRATION CAME INTO

03:43 - OFFICE, THEY DROPPED THAT CASE

03:47 - HAS BEEN BACK UP BY VOTERS.

03:50 - THEY'RE INDIVIDUALLY. BUT

03:51 - THERE'S A SEPARATE UNRELATED

03:53 - CASE THERE IN THE SCHOOL

03:54 - DISTRICT WHERE TO RESPECT FOR

03:54 - OTHERS HAVE SUED UNDER SECTION

03:58 - TO THE READING RIGHTS ACT

03:58 - SAYING BASICALLY THE SAME THING

03:59 - ARE AT-LARGE METHOD OF ELECTING

04:03 - SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS IS

04:03 - PREVENTING HISPANICS FROM

04:05 - ELECTING THE CANDIDATES OF

04:07 - THEIR CHOICE. SO REALLY CLEAR

04:09 - YET EXACTLY HOW THIS THIS

04:10 - RULING IS GOING TO AFFECT CASE.

04:13 - AND THAT EVER COME BACK FROM

04:13 - ME, LAWYERS IN THAT IN THAT

04:16 - FOR THEIR TAKE ON IT. BUT

04:17 - CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE

04:18 - IT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE LOOKING

04:18 - AT A CERTAIN KIND OF MOVE

04:20 - FORWARD.

04:21 - >>AND SOME OF HIS LEGISLATIVE

04:22 - DISTRICT BOUNDARIES HAVE BEEN

04:23 - CHALLENGED SEVERAL TIMES IN

04:25 - RECENT DECADES. WHAT THE STATE

04:25 - LAW SAY ABOUT USING FACTORS

04:28 - LIKE RACE OR PARTISANSHIP AND

04:31 - DRYING THIS REDISTRICTING.

04:33 - >>SOME OF THE EXPERTS I SPOKE

04:35 - TO, THEY WORRY THAT WITH THE

04:36 - SUPREME COURT WEAKENING THE

04:40 - PROTECTIONS AGAINST IT, RACIAL

04:40 - DISCRIMINATION WITH THIS CASE,

04:43 - MORE STATES MIGHT LOOK TO DO

04:44 - PARTISAN GERRYMANDERING OF

04:45 - WHICH COURSE WE'VE SEEN A LOT

04:47 - OF CARE IN PENNSYLVANIA AS WELL

04:49 - BECAUSE PARTISAN AFFILIATION

04:50 - AND RACIAL IDENTITY, OFTEN THE

04:54 - LINE IN MANY CASES, THE THING

04:55 - IS IN PENNSYLVANIA, AS I'M SURE

04:56 - YOU WELL KNOW, MANY FOLKS WHO

04:58 - REMEMBER, WE'VE HAD OUR

04:59 - CONGRESSIONAL MAPS SHOW SEVERAL

05:00 - TIMES OVER THE PAST COUPLE

05:04 - YEARS FOR BEING ILLEGAL

05:05 - PARTISAN GERRYMANDERS UNDER OUR

05:06 - STATE'S CONSTITUTION. WE HAVE

05:09 - A GUARANTEE TO A FREE AND EQUAL

05:10 - ELECTION AND THE WAY THAT

05:13 - CLAUSE GETS INTERPRETED BIDEN

05:15 - COURSE USED FOR RENT PARTISAN

05:17 - GERRYMANDERING. SO THAT'S WHY

05:18 - SOME OF THE EXTRAS I SPEAK TO

05:20 - FEEL THAT THIS DECISION IS

05:21 - GOING TO HAVE LIMITED IMPACT.

05:23 - NOT ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T

05:24 - TRADITIONALLY ENGAGED IN RACIAL

05:26 - GERRYMANDERING CARE AND

05:27 - PENNSYLVANIA, BUT ALSO BECAUSE

05:29 - WE HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL LAYER

05:30 - OF PROTECTION IN THE STATE

05:32 - COURTS THAT WOULD PREVENT, YOU

05:34 - KNOW, REALLY EGREGIOUS PARTISAN

05:36 - GERRYMANDERS.

05:36 - >>EVEN IF DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS

05:38 - WERE ABLE TO MOVE UPDATES TO

05:39 - THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, WHAT'S

05:40 - THE LIKELIHOOD THAT PRESIDENT

05:43 - DONALD TRUMP SIGNED IT?

05:44 - >>THAT WILL BE PROBABLY PRETTY

05:45 - UNLIKELY. YOU KNOW, HE HAS HIS

05:48 - OWN ELECTION PRIORITIES AS THE

05:49 - VOTING RIGHTS ACT IS NOT ONE

05:50 - THAT HE'S MENTIONS. I WOULD

05:53 - EXPECT HIM, YOU KNOW, IF THE

05:54 - DEMOCRATS TAKE CONTROL, IF THEY

05:55 - PUT SOMETHING BEFORE AND I

05:56 - WOULD EXPECT THEM TO THE TO

06:00 - >>PENNSYLVANIA'S PRIMARY

06:02 - ELECTION IS MAY 19TH. JEFF, ANY

06:03 - SENSE OF WHETHER THIS U.S.

06:04 - SUPREME COURT DECISION ON THE

06:04 - VOTING RIGHTS ACT WILL IMPACT

06:05 - VOTER SENTIMENT THE SPRING?

06:09 - >>YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S HARD

06:10 - TO TELL. I TALKED WITH SOME

06:11 - ELECTION DIRECTORS WHO EVEN

06:13 - BEFORE THIS DECISION ARE SAYING

06:15 - THEY DIDN'T EXPECT A HIGH

06:17 - TURNOUT IN THIS PRIMARY

06:17 - ANYWAYS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE

06:20 - COURSE LOCAL RACES, SOME SENATE

06:22 - AND HOUSE DISTRICTS THAT ARE

06:23 - COMPETITIVE, BUT WE DON'T

06:25 - REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO HAPPEN

06:26 - TO TAKE IT AS A CRIMINAL TRIAL

06:28 - PRIMARY OR SEND U.S. SENATE

06:29 - PRIMARY. IT'S REALLY GOING TO

06:31 - DRIVE VOTERS OUT TO THE POLLS.

06:33 - >>WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH

06:33 - CARTER WALKER PETE, THANKS FOR

06:36 - JOINING US THIS MORNING.

06:37 - >>THANKS, SENTIMENT.

06:37 - >>MORE THE PEACE AND CAPITAL

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06:50 - FLOOR PROCEEDINGS AS THEY

06:52 - HAPPEN AND ENDED AND COMPLETE.

06:54 - OUR MISSION INCLUDES COMMITTEE

06:57 - MEETINGS, BUDGET HEARINGS,

06:58 - INTERVIEWS WITH PROMINENT

06:58 - LEGISLATORS AND OTHER PUBLIC

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07:18 - 2026 ELECTION. STAY INFORMED ON

07:20 - THE RACES FOR GOVERNOR

07:20 - LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND KEY

07:25 - CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS.

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07:38 - TODAY. PCN IS PENNSYLVANIA

07:41 - POLITICS AND POLICY.

07:44 - >>WELCOME BACK. OUR GUESTS

07:46 - TODAY ARE MEMBERS OF THE SENATE

07:47 - STATE GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE.

07:49 - SENATOR ANTHONY WILLIAMS AND

07:51 - MAJORITY CHAIR SENATOR CRIS

07:51 - DUSH. LET SENATOR DUST WILL

07:52 - START THE LAST WEEK. THE U.S.

07:53 - SUPREME COURT REVISE THE VOTING

07:56 - RIGHTS ACT REMOVING RACE AS A

07:57 - CONSIDERATION IN DRAWING

07:58 - LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS, TC THE

08:01 - STAFFING IMPLICATIONS OF

08:02 - PENNSYLVANIA.

08:03 - >>AND POTENTIALLY THE

08:05 - PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT

08:07 - STRUCK DOWN MAPS BACK IN 2017

08:11 - AND THAT ACTUALLY I AGREED WITH

08:12 - THE FACT THAT THEY STRUCK THOSE

08:14 - MAPS DOWN, NOT GOOFY, KICKING

08:14 - DONALD DUCK. DUCK THING WAS.

08:19 - JUST ABSURD. THEY DIDN'T HAVE

08:20 - THE AUTHORITY TO WRITE THE NEW

08:23 - MAPS, BUT THEY DIDN'T.

08:30 - IT'S ALWAYS PART OF THE

08:31 - DISCUSSION AND HAS BEEN FOR AS

08:32 - LONG AS I'VE BEEN IN THE

08:33 - LEGISLATURE. I KNOW PROBABLY

08:35 - FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES BEFORE

08:38 - WHERE RACE WAS A FORCED TO BE A

08:41 - PART OF

08:42 - THE DECISION-MAKING. WE'RE AT A

08:44 - POINT HERE IN AMERICA RIGHT

08:45 - NOW. COMPARED TO OTHER PLACES

08:48 - IN THE WORLD THAT I'M IN.

08:51 - WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE.

08:52 - WE NEED TO GET TO WHAT DOCTOR

08:55 - KING SAID. YOU KNOW, JUDGE

08:56 - PEOPLE BY THE CONTENT OF THE

08:56 - CHARACTER RATHER THAN THEIR THE

08:59 - COLOR OF THEIR SKIN.

09:00 - AND WE'RE PROGRESSING TO THE

09:01 - POINT WHERE I THINK WE'RE READY

09:04 - FOR THAT. AND

09:07 - WE DON'T WE SHOULDN'T BE USING

09:10 - THAT AS A DETERMINATION ON WHAT

09:13 - OUR MAPS ARE GOING TO BE.

09:13 - >>SENATOR WILLIAMS, YOUR

09:14 - THOUGHTS ON THE SUPREME COURT

09:16 - DECISION.

09:16 - >>WELL, I THINK IT'S VERY

09:19 - CHILLING FOR AMERICA.

09:24 - THE REALITY THIS ENDESA.

09:24 - OUR KEEP OUR SIMILAR VALUES

09:27 - ABOUT FAMILY.

09:28 - 82 IS IN THE CONCUSSION EARLY.

09:30 - SO, YOU KNOW, SHARE THE SAME

09:32 - LAWS. BUT GETTING TO WHERE WE

09:35 - ARE.

09:36 - AND THE REASON WHY THAT TICKLE

09:41 - PART OF THE SECTION OF THE

09:42 - CONSTITUTIONAL FLAWS TRAFFIC

09:42 - WAS BECAUSE IT WAS CLEAR THAT.

09:46 - RACE DISABILITY BLINDNESS OR

09:51 - IT WEATHER. ARTS AND

09:53 - THAT SEXUAL WERE USED AGAINST

09:55 - PEOPLE. WELL, BECAUSE THEY NEED

09:55 - TO BE ELEVATED. THEY NEED TO BE

09:56 - LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD.

10:01 - AND SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,

10:02 - DOCTOR KING SPOKE ONLY ABOUT A

10:04 - LITTLE 60 YEARS AGO AND TODAY

10:07 - WE

10:08 - STILL HAVE ON AN EVEN PLAYING

10:09 - FIELD THAT AMERICAN LAW FIRM,

10:11 - THAT DATA,

10:13 - IN FACT, HE'S ONLY BEEN IN

10:13 - RECENT YEARS AFTER AMERICAN TO

10:14 - THIS COUNTRY FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

10:19 - ENJOY THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

10:20 - IT'S NOT BEEN 100 YEARS AFTER

10:22 - AMERICA'S IT HAD THE RIGHT TO

10:23 - VOTE. SO THIS IS JUST THAT

10:25 - WE'VE ACTUALLY ACHIEVED.

10:28 - PARITY AND ESPECIALLY THIS

10:29 - CLOSE RACE. AND THAT'S

10:31 - UNFORTUNATELY NOT ACCURATE.

10:32 - IS THAT ACCURATE? AFTER

10:33 - AMERICANS ARE BASED UPON THE

10:36 - DATA, IT MEANS TO PLAY IT.

10:39 - HOUSING ECONOMIC SEPARATION

10:40 - BETWEEN PEOPLE DOING THE SAME

10:43 - EXACT JOB IN AMERICA GETTING

10:45 - JUST BEFORE SHE PAY LESS.

10:46 - AND SO IT'S A NICE THING TO

10:47 - SAY. BUT IT'S A HARD THING

10:50 - APPARENTLY TO EXECUTE.

10:55 - >>REALLY IS NOT PLAYING OUT

10:56 - AS MUCH AND AMERICA AS FAR AS

11:00 - THE OPPORTUNITIES. WHAT'S

11:01 - INTERESTING IS IT'S A

11:02 - DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

11:02 - OPPORTUNITIES AND OUTCOMES.

11:10 - THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS IN

11:11 - THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY,

11:14 - THE ASIAN COMMUNITY

11:14 - DISABILITIES. MY FAMILY'S BEEN

11:15 - INVOLVED WITH DISABILITY RIGHTS

11:19 - FOR A LONG TIME. THE

11:21 - THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

11:25 - OPPORTUNITY AND RESULTS.

11:26 - WHEN YOU HAVE. IT'S UNFORTUNATE

11:31 - THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE,

11:31 - ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE

11:32 - AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAT

11:39 - THEY LIKE TO KEEP US SEPARATED.

11:40 - AND I I DON'T SEE THAT SO MUCH

11:40 - IN THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

11:43 - BUT

11:44 - THERE ARE PLACES AND TIMES

11:45 - WHERE WE'RE WE'RE SEEING THAT.

11:50 - BUT I THINK WE'RE PROGRESSING

11:52 - BEYOND THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE'S

11:55 - TOLERANCE FOR IN THE BOX AND I

11:56 - WORK WITH IN THE MILITARY AND

11:59 - CORRECTIONS

12:00 - AND EVEN IN MY RELATIONSHIPS

12:03 - WITH THE INMATES IN THE

12:06 - PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THAT JUST

12:13 - ALL ONE OF THE ACTORS

12:14 - AFRICAN-AMERICAN GUY. HE SAID

12:16 - THAT NOT. AND HE SAID IF YOU

12:18 - WANT IT TO STOP, STOP TALKING

12:21 - ABOUT IT BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE

12:22 - TALKING TO THE POINT HE WAS

12:25 - MAKING, WAS THAT.

12:26 - IF IT'S ALWAYS A POINT OF

12:27 - CONTENTION, THEN IT'S ALWAYS

12:30 - GOING TO BE A PROBLEM WHEN THAT

12:33 - WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT

12:34 - UNIFYING AS AN AMERICAN, THEN

12:35 - THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED GETTING

12:35 - TO THE ASPIRATIONAL GOALS OF

12:38 - OUR CONSTITUTION.

12:39 - >>WE BELIEVE THIS IS JUST THIS

12:42 - IS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND THAT

12:43 - PRESSURE WHO THE ACTOR IS A

12:44 - SURE WAY. BLACKS YOU'RE TALKING

12:48 - ABOUT. BUT I DO KNOW ONE THING

12:51 - IN MY WELL, A NEW MAYOR.

12:51 - IF YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT THE

12:52 - DIFFERENCE IS YOU DON'T RESOLVE

12:54 - THE DIFFERENCES. SO SAYS JUST

12:56 - THAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT HIM IS A

12:57 - PROBLEM. THAT IS A PROBLEM.

13:01 - SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT

13:02 - LOGIC COMES FROM, CHRIS, BUT IT

13:03 - DOESN'T HOLD WATER IN TERMS.

13:05 - I WAS OUT THERE FOR US. THE

13:07 - REALITY IS IF YOU'RE SUGGESTING

13:08 - THAT THESE ISSUES DO STILL

13:10 - EXIST, I CAN POINT TO,

13:10 - UNFORTUNATELY, TOO MANY PLACES

13:14 - WAY TOO. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE

13:14 - TALK ABOUT. THIS HAS NOTHING TO

13:17 - DO WITH LIVING SEPARATE I'VE

13:20 - INTERACTED WITH YOU

13:20 - SIGNIFICANTLY. WE MAKE IT WILL

13:21 - MARK KARR AND JUST SEE YOU AS A

13:23 - PERSON. THE OUTLIER WHO

13:25 - REPRESENTS THE POPULATION OF

13:25 - COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T WANT TO

13:28 - BE CONNECTED.

13:28 - I DON'T ALLOW THAT TO INTERRUPT

13:29 - WHO I AM OR HOW I OPERATE WITH

13:31 - HUMAN BEINGS. I TAKE PEOPLE

13:34 - FOR WHO THEY ARE, WHERE THEY

13:34 - ARE AND THE RESULTS WERE NOT

13:38 - TALKING ABOUT THAT. AND SO THE

13:39 - DISTRACTION OF HOW PEOPLE FEEL

13:40 - ABOUT IT. MOSTLY I WILL TALK

13:42 - ABOUT THAT A LOT. APARTMENT,

13:44 - THE REALITY IN AMERICA AS IT

13:44 - STANDS TO PEOPLE IN YOUR

13:45 - DISTRICT IN MY DISTRICT, IF

13:48 - THEY'RE ALL COLOR. WELL, WITH

13:50 - ALL DUE RESPECT, THEY DO NOT

13:51 - HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES OF THE

13:53 - PEOPLE HAVE. NO, THAT DOESN'T

13:54 - MEAN IT WAS PEOPLE SIT THERE

13:56 - AND COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL THE

13:57 - HOUSEHOLD. MY FATHER, LOOK,

14:00 - THERE'S REASON VERY CLEARLY,

14:00 - BUT TO SAY WHAT LIABILITIES

14:02 - WILL BE A FRONT OF YOUR LIFE.

14:02 - BUT THAT'S NOT TO EXCUSE NOT TO

14:07 - GO OUT. IT IS NOT FIGHT FOR

14:08 - THIS COUNTRY, NOT BELIEVE IN

14:08 - THE POSSIBILITIES. THAT KNOWS

14:12 - NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT AT ALL.

14:13 - IT HAS TO DO WITH BEING HONEST

14:14 - ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AND NOT

14:15 - SUGAR COAT IT. WITH ALL DUE

14:17 - RESPECT, THE CURRENT WHICH WE

14:20 - LIVE POLITICALLY.

14:21 - IN REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC

14:24 - CURRY OUT EAST IN TV SHOWS THAT

14:25 - ARE ALIKE. I LIKE THE ISSUE

14:30 - OF RACE. SO TO SUGGEST THAT

14:31 - SOMEONE IN THE AFTER FROM THE

14:34 - COMMUNITY IS DIVIDING US TO

14:35 - KNOW WHO THAT IS. I DON'T KNOW

14:37 - WHAT LEADER THAT YOU'RE TALKING

14:38 - ABOUT OR INFLUENCERS WITHIN

14:40 - OUR COMMUNITY ARE TALKING

14:40 - ABOUT. IT IS DRIVING THE MASSES

14:43 - OF AFTER AMERICANS TO TALK

14:45 - ABOUT. WE NEED TO HAVE A FAIR

14:46 - SHOT AT THE AMERICAN DREAM.

14:48 - AND HERE'S THE REASONS WHY

14:49 - WE'RE AND SOME OF THAT HAS TO

14:52 - DO WITH RACE HERE.

14:53 - >>AT LEAST 7 DIFFERENT STATES

14:56 - HAVE REVISED THEIR LEGISLATIVE

14:57 - DISTRICTS IN ADVANCE OF THE

15:00 - 2030, PRESS, A CENSUS DATA TO

15:00 - SUP 8 THAT PENNSYLVANIA WILL

15:03 - FOLLOW SUIT ON THAT.

15:07 - >>I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING

15:09 - RIGHT NOW. SIMPLY BECAUSE WITH

15:12 - THE DEFIANT DIVIDED

15:12 - LEGISLATURE, THE KNOW-HOW WHO'S

15:13 - CONTROLLING THE HOUSE AND THE

15:16 - SENATE. GETTING SOMETHING

15:16 - THAT'S MEANINGFUL ACROSS THE

15:17 - LINE. I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING.

15:21 - >>SENATOR WILLIAMS?

15:22 - >>WELL, I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS

15:27 - >>YEAH, I THINK IT'S THE YOU

15:28 - KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR SENATOR

15:30 - DOES, BUT I'M I'M WATCHING

15:32 - >>COMMENTATORS AND OPINION

15:34 - SHAPERS TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

15:35 - HOW, YOU KNOW, RAY SHOOTING

15:39 - UNARMED QUALIFIER. THESE ARE

15:40 - THE SAME PEOPLE AROUND THE

15:41 - COUNTRY SAYING WE NEED TO

15:42 - INTRODUCE LEGISLATION FOR A

15:45 - REPUBLICAN, A

15:45 - REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED SEEING IT

15:48 - IN CONGRESS. SO IT'S OK TO TO

15:52 - A POLITICALLY.

15:54 - DRIVIN PARTISAN DRIVIN

15:55 - DISTRICT. BUT WHEN YOU TALK

16:00 - ABOUT SABLE BLIND. BIG OF

16:02 - COLOR. THOSE THINGS APPARENTLY

16:04 - ARE, YOU KNOW, UNFAIR

16:05 - ADVANTAGE. BUT BEING A

16:08 - REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT IS WHAT

16:09 - WE SHOULD BE DIVIDED AIRLINES

16:10 - AND I I DON'T SEE THE LOGIC

16:13 - IN THAT. WELL.

16:14 - I WANT TO HAVE FAITH IN THE

16:16 - COURT AND ONE POINT I IT SORT

16:18 - OF POINT THAT THE PARK WAS THE

16:19 - AL. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT

16:21 - QUITE SURE THAT THE COURTS WILL

16:24 - ALLOW FOR THAT TO BE WHAT IT

16:25 - SHOULD BE. AND THAT IS IF

16:26 - YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY

16:28 - POLITICS, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING

16:31 - WELL, ONE STANDARD TO PREVAIL

16:32 - AND SHOULD ALLOW ANY STANDARD

16:32 - PREVAIL, ONLY POPULATION, BUT

16:33 - THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

16:35 - >>WE'RE GOING TO TALK QUITE A

16:38 - BIT ABOUT LEGISLATIVE

16:38 - LEGISLATION BEFORE THE STATE

16:41 - SENATE STATE GOVERNMENT

16:41 - COMMITTEE. BUT I GET YOUR

16:43 - OPINION ON ONE OTHER ITEM AND

16:43 - THAT IS THE SAVE ACT, WHICH

16:46 - PASSED THE HOUSE IN FEBRUARY.

16:47 - IT SITTING BEFORE THE U.S.

16:48 - SENATE RIGHT NOW. WHAT YOUR

16:48 - VIEWERS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS?

16:55 - >>21. OH, WELL, AS GAS A LITTLE

16:56 - BIT, I WAS OFTEN I'VE LET OFF

16:57 - THE FIRST 2 OUTLET YOU TAKE

16:59 - TAKE POINT ON THIS ONE. WELL,

17:02 - BEING.

17:03 - LOT OF FANS SAY THAT THAT IS

17:09 - THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF REASONS

17:10 - WITHIN THAT BODY. THERE ARE

17:10 - THINGS THAT PEOPLE SUGGESTED IT

17:13 - STANDS FOR.

17:14 - YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET INTO

17:15 - THE WEEDS OF IT, FORCING

17:17 - DOESN'T SAVE MONEY. PEOPLE JUST

17:20 - PUT THAT SOMETHING RIGHT.

17:22 - WELL, I WILL RESPECTFULLY

17:23 - DISAGREE AS WE ARE. AND WE DO

17:27 - SO OFTEN.

17:28 - >>WHAT I WILL I WILL SAY THIS,

17:29 - THE THE POINTS OF CONTENTION

17:32 - THAT ARE MOST

17:35 - OFTEN CITED ARE THEY SAY THE

17:38 - WOMEN WHO MARRY, I CAN'T GET

17:39 - ID'S THAT HAVE THEIR PROPER

17:40 - NAME ON IT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

17:43 - THE LADIES THAT I TALKED TO WHO

17:43 - HAVE BEEN MARRIED, MARRIED,

17:46 - DIVORCED AND REMARRIED.

17:49 - THEY FIND THAT AND THEY'RE

17:53 - HAVING A VOTER ID. IT'S

17:54 - SOMETHING THAT IS CRITICAL.

17:55 - WE NEED YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ID

17:58 - TO BUY LIQUOR E CIGARETTES.

18:01 - JUST THERE ARE A NUMBER OF

18:02 - THINGS HERE AND AMERICA THAT

18:02 - YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ID IN ORDER

18:05 - TO PURCHASE THEM.

18:09 - ENSURING THAT THE PEOPLE WHO

18:10 - ARE COMING AND EXERCISING THE

18:13 - THE RIGHTS OF THE FRANCHISE

18:14 - HOLDERS ARE IN THE IN THE

18:17 - FRANCHISE HOLDERS IS CRITICAL

18:20 - AND BUY.

18:24 - WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF OVER THE

18:28 - YEARS WHERE THE FRONT HAS

18:29 - ACTUALLY OCCURRED. AND IN 20

18:32 - JUST THIS YEAR, WE HAD OVER

18:33 - 2500 FRAUDULENT VOTES IN

18:34 - LANCASTER VOTER REGISTRATIONS.

18:39 - THOSE THINGS THAT KIND OF STUFF

18:40 - NEEDS TO BE STOPPED. AND ONE OF

18:40 - THE WAYS TO DO THAT AS HAVE

18:44 - VOTER ID AND I'M SURE THAT

18:44 - THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE

18:45 - TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO

18:47 - ARE COMING TO EXERCISE THAT

18:47 - RIGHT ARE INDEED THE FRANCHISE

18:49 - OWNERS.

18:50 - >>SENATOR, LET ME FINISH AND

18:53 - >>I WELL.

18:56 - >>YOU KNOW, IT IS A

18:59 - IRONY TO ME THAT PEOPLE ARE

19:00 - TIRED OF THE 4 AD, WHETHER IT'S

19:01 - FOR I MEAN, WE CAN DEBATE FRAUD

19:02 - A LOT BECAUSE FRANKLY, THERE'S

19:05 - NOT A LOT OF THAT. AND FRANKLY,

19:05 - THE ONES LANCASTER COUNTY, A

19:09 - LOT OF REPUBLICANS. SO I'M NOT

19:10 - QUITE SURE WHO'S IN CHARGE OF

19:12 - FRAUD THIS WITH THIS WEEK.

19:13 - BUT VOTERS HAVE OFTEN POSITION

19:16 - THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE SECURITY

19:17 - IN THE VOTING PROCESS, WHICH

19:19 - I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

19:21 - BUT THE REALITY IS IF YOU

19:22 - REGISTER TO VOTE, THERE'S A

19:23 - PROCESS. I MEAN, I GOT A

19:26 - VACATION IS A PART OF THE

19:27 - QUESTIONS. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK

19:27 - AT THE CASE. AND WITH ALL DUE

19:30 - RESPECT. YOU KNOW, TO WHATEVER

19:31 - WOMEN SO JUST SPOKE TO. THERE'S

19:32 - A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE

19:35 - OLDER.

19:37 - WHO UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE

19:38 - THE ABILITY TO GET THE

19:41 - DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.

19:42 - I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE FOR A

19:42 - LOT OF PEOPLE. AND SO IF YOU

19:46 - MAKE IT REASONABLE, MANY PEOPLE

19:46 - WOULD CONFORM TO UNDERSTAND

19:48 - THAT YOU NEED TO SUPPORT

19:50 - GETTING RICHER TO VOTE AND

19:51 - VOTING WITH THAT IN PLACE.

19:53 - SO IT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT ABOUT

19:55 - WHETHER YOU ARE PROPERLY

19:56 - IDENTIFIED AS THE PERSON THAT'S

19:57 - REGISTERED THE RIGHT TO VOTE

19:59 - ITS THE MATH. IT THAT ARE

20:04 - REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH TO

20:05 - GUARANTEE THAT VOTE. SO WE

20:08 - ACTUALLY AGREE ON ELEMENTS OF

20:09 - MAKING SURE YOU'RE RIGHT OVER.

20:10 - SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S A

20:13 - PROBLEM. WE JUST NEED TO

20:13 - ENSURE THAT THAT ACCESS IS NOT

20:14 - CUT OFF A CERTAIN FOLKS FOR

20:16 - SOME OTHER FOLKS. WHAT

20:18 - PROVISION COULD BE MADE FOR

20:19 - SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T CURRENTLY

20:20 - HAVE ALL THEIR DOCUMENTS OR

20:21 - WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A

20:22 - PROPER ID. PERHAPS THEY DO HAVE

20:23 - A PASSPORT. THEY DON'T HAVE

20:24 - A DRIVER'S LICENSE. WELL, I

20:27 - DON'T HAVE THE LIST, BUT THERE

20:28 - ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER DOCUMENTS

20:29 - SAID THE LAW ACTUALLY ALLOWS TO

20:31 - BE USED TO. SO IT'S NOT THERE

20:33 - ARE SOME EXTENSIVE LIST

20:34 - ACTUALLY.

20:36 - >>INSIDE PEOPLE JUST LIKE TO

20:37 - HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THEM SAY,

20:38 - WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS

20:39 - TO THIS SO THEY DON'T HAVE

20:42 - ACCESS TO THAT. BUT THERE ARE

20:44 - OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT THE SAVE

20:45 - ACT ACTUALLY ALLOWS TO BE.

20:46 - THAT'S HOW MANY OTHER STATES

20:48 - CURRENTLY HAVE VOTER ID.

20:50 - THAT I COULDN'T. I'M I DON'T

20:53 - HAVE A DIRECT ANSWER TO.

20:54 - >>ALL OPPOSE THIS. TO BOTH OF

20:55 - YOU. SENATOR, DOES SHE HAD

20:55 - MENTIONED ABOUT THERE BEING

20:58 - VOTER FRAUD? HAS THERE BEEN

21:00 - ANY EVIDENCE OF FRAUD OR VOTER

21:01 - DISENFRANCHISEMENT AS A RESULT

21:02 - OF VOTER ID IN STATES THAT HAVE

21:04 - IT?

21:07 - >>I'M NOT AWARE OF

21:08 - >>TONY, YOU HAVE I DON'T HAVE

21:11 - ANY IT WILL. FIRST OF ALL,

21:12 - EVERY REPUBLICAN STATE AND IN

21:13 - AN AMERICA THAT THAT SITS IN.

21:15 - A REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED SENATE

21:19 - AND HOUSE HAS VOTER ID OR WHAT

21:19 - PEOPLE WOULD DESCRIBE. AS FOR

21:22 - THE DEDICATION BUT

21:25 - >>THE

21:28 - >>OUTLIER RELATIVE TO

21:29 - SUPPRESSION, WHICH WAS A

21:29 - CONCERN THAT THE INITIAL PART

21:32 - OF THIS. THE DAY STILL BEING

21:36 - DEVELOPED. I DON'T KNOW IT.

21:37 - HONESTLY. I'M NOT QUITE SURE

21:38 - THAT THE DROP-OFF IN VOTER

21:39 - PARTICIPATION IS ANYTHING TO

21:41 - DO WITH A VOTER IDENTIFICATION.

21:45 - SO MUCH IS WELL, THOSE ARE NOW

21:45 - BEING TO THE POINT. CLEARLY

21:47 - WE'RE TIRED OF HERE BY ARE YOU

21:50 - AND THEY DON'T MISS A TRUST.

21:51 - GOVERNMENT, REPUBLICAN AND

21:54 - DEMOCRAT, RURAL URBAN AND

21:54 - SUBURBAN, WE DON'T TRUST

21:56 - GOVERNMENT TO SOLVE THEIR

21:57 - PROBLEMS ANYMORE. SO I THINK A

22:00 - LOT OF IT, I CAN'T SAY IS FOR

22:01 - DEDICATION. I THINK THEIR

22:03 - VOTER. I'M TIRED OF YOU GUYS

22:06 - ARE GOOD. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.

22:08 - >>TONY, I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH

22:08 - IT STRONGLY. I THINK YOU AND I

22:15 - BOTH HAVE SEEN IT. THE THE

22:15 - DISENFRANCHISED FEELINGS OF

22:16 - THE END OF THE FEELING THAT

22:20 - PEOPLE HAVE THAT THEY ARE BEING

22:23 - DISENFRANCHISED AS WELL

22:24 - THEIR ANGST AT US AND THE

22:26 - FEDERAL LEGISLATURE AS WELL

22:29 - IT'S PRETTY STRONG. AND AND

22:32 - DESERVEDLY SO.

22:33 - >>HAS GOVERNOR SHAPIRO VOICE

22:34 - WHETHER HE WOULD SIGN A VOTER

22:37 - ID BILL.

22:38 - >>I DON'T THINK HE HAS. NO, I

22:39 - DON'T THINK HE'S IN SUPPORT

22:42 - OF IT. WELL, I KNOW YOU SO.

22:45 - >>HE HAS TO ME MY NOSE AND 2

22:46 - TEETH AND GOVERN AS AN

22:47 - EXPRESSION OF PAIN. WE HAVE

22:49 - 6 PRESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT.

22:52 - THOSE WHO WANT TO VOTE THEIR

22:56 - >>POTENTIAL VOTERS HAVE A RIGHT

22:57 - TO DO THAT. HE'S MADE THAT

23:00 - CLEAR.

23:01 - I DON'T THINK HE STANDS AS MANY

23:05 - DEMOCRATS A LOT TOO.

23:06 - OUR OPPOSITION TO CARE TEAM TO

23:06 - VOTERS WHO REGISTER TO VOTE.

23:10 - ARE LEGITIMATE.

23:12 - WOULD YOU ADMIT FOLKS TO VOTE?

23:15 - I THINK HE'S VERY CLEAR ABOUT

23:17 - THAT. HE'S ONE OF THE FEW

23:20 - DEMOCRATIC

23:22 - GOVERNORS AND THEN MANY

23:22 - REPUBLICANS FEEL IN ALL OF US.

23:26 - A FAIR SHAKE. HE POLLS VERY

23:29 - STRONGLY ACROSS PENNSYLVANIA

23:30 - PERIOD. SO I CAN IMAGINE JUST

23:33 - STANDING ALL.

23:34 - THE SIDELINES AND SAYING I'M

23:36 - AGAINST ALL VOTER

23:36 - IDENTIFICATION RULES IS IT JUST

23:38 - HASN'T BEEN AS POSITION AS HE'S

23:43 - >>LET'S SHIFT OUR FOCUS NOW TO

23:44 - TALK ABOUT A PRIMARY ELECTION

23:44 - SYSTEM ON LAST DECEMBER, A

23:47 - GROUP OF 5 INDEPENDENT VOTERS

23:48 - AND PLEADING POLITICAL

23:49 - COMMENTATOR MICHAEL SMERCONISH

23:50 - FILED A CHALLENGE TO THE

23:52 - STATE'S CLOSED PRIMARY SYSTEM.

23:53 - THE SUPPORT OF THE PRIMARIES.

23:57 - ABSOLUTELY NOT.

23:58 - >>A LOOK. THIS IS I LIKEN THIS

24:00 - TO THE BALTIMORE COLTS OR THE

24:03 - IS USED TO BE CALLED THE RAVENS

24:04 - PICKING THE TEAM MEMBERS FOR

24:07 - THE STEELERS AND EAGLES.

24:08 - YOU LET SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S

24:09 - NOT A PART OF YOUR PARTY COME

24:13 - IN AND THE SIDE.

24:16 - THE MECHANISMS ARE THERE FOR AN

24:19 - INDEPENDENT PARTY TO ACTUALLY

24:23 - HAVE A CANDIDATE. THE

24:23 - MECHANISMS MECHANISMS ARE

24:24 - THEY'RE WITHIN THE ELECTION LAW

24:27 - IT'S JUST THAT THEY CHOOSE NOT

24:31 - TO DO IT. THERE INDEPENDENCE IS

24:31 - TO THE POINT WHERE THEY DON'T

24:32 - EVEN THEY DON'T TRUST ANY

24:35 - PARTIES. A LOT OF TIMES.

24:36 - BUT IF THEY WERE TO COALESCE

24:37 - AROUND A CANDIDATE, THEY CAN

24:37 - GET A CANDIDATE ON THE BALLOT.

24:42 - TO HAVE PEOPLE UNDER. WE'VE

24:43 - SEEN IT IN OTHER STATES.

24:46 - THERE ARE EXAMPLES IN OTHER

24:48 - STATES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE

24:49 - SWITCHED IN ORDER TO INFLUENCE

24:51 - THE PRIMARY FOR THE OTHER

24:53 - PARTY. THE OTHER MAJOR PARTY.

24:54 - AND THAT'S HAPPENED ON BOTH

24:55 - SIDES OF THE FENCE. SO IT'S

24:58 - NOT A SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE

24:58 - TO EITHER THE DEMOCRATS OR THE

25:01 - REPUBLICANS.

25:06 - SENATOR WILLIAMS.

25:07 - >>PARTIES, THE DEMOCRAT WILL

25:07 - STAY THERE WITH THAT. BUT I

25:10 - BELIEVE IN LOCAL FARMERS WELL,

25:11 - I THINK ACTUALLY THE WHOLE

25:14 - SYSTEM.

25:14 - PRIMARY VERSUS THE GENERAL

25:17 - ELECTION IS VERY COSTLY.

25:18 - AND I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD

25:20 - BE SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY.

25:22 - THEY WERE STANDING IN HIS

25:22 - ELECTION CYCLES. FIRST OF ALL,

25:25 - THE SECOND OF ALL, THE FASTEST

25:26 - GROWING POLITICAL PARTY IN

25:29 - AMERICA FOR INDEPENDENCE AND

25:32 - THEY'RE EXHAUSTED WITH

25:35 - DEMOCRATS. THE REPUBLICANS.

25:35 - >>BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH,

25:37 - BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

25:39 - >>AND THE RESULT IS. INCREASED

25:41 - COST OF LIVING. SUEDE SHOES.

25:46 - LACK OF HEALTH CARE. QUALITY

25:49 - EDUCATION

25:51 - DOESN'T PERFORM WELL ABOVE THE

25:52 - LAW. SO THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT

25:55 - YOU SO

25:56 - WE WILLIAMS STANDS FOR. WHAT

25:57 - YOU TONY WILLIAMS ARE DOING TO

25:59 - RESOLVE MY PROBLEM, WE WILLIAMS

26:03 - IS DOING EVERY SINGLE DAY IS

26:05 - THIS IS STATES ARE TELL ME IF

26:07 - YOU NOT ALL TO THE NEXT GUY

26:11 - OR GAL REGARDLESS OF PARTY

26:13 - AFFILIATION, THOSE WHO THEY

26:13 - FEEL MOST OF THEIR FIGHT WITH

26:15 - THEIR COMMUNITY SHOULD

26:17 - REPRESENT THAT. NOT BECAUSE

26:17 - THEY'RE REQUIRED TO VOTE FOR

26:20 - DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN. AND

26:21 - YOU SEE THAT SIGNIFICANTLY IN

26:24 - RECENT POLLS AS RELATES TO HARD

26:26 - BIG 10 REPUBLICANS. CHOOSING A

26:29 - DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. ON THE

26:31 - PRESIDENT AND THEIR PART BLAME

26:34 - IT ON. EVERY INDIVIDUAL KNOWS

26:37 - WHAT AND WHEN WE WILL SERVE

26:40 - BUSH. BUT THE REALITY IS, YOU

26:43 - KNOW, THEY'RE TAKEN A HIT.

26:44 - BECAUSE OF OUR PERSONNEL AS

26:47 - OPPOSED TO PERFORMANCE. IT'S SO

26:48 - I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE ANYONE

26:50 - HAS TO DO IS SAY, LOOK, I'M

26:52 - PROUD TO BE A DEMOCRAT FOR

26:53 - THESE BOEING REASONS. BUT VERY

26:56 - CLEAR. ALSO, CABLE RUN AN OPEN

26:57 - PRIMARY AGAINST A GREAT PARTY

27:01 - PARTY. STATE PARTY, 0 PARTY,

27:02 - REPUBLICAN PARTY AND STAND ON

27:05 - MY RECORD.

27:09 - >>I KNOW IT'S INTERESTING THAT

27:11 - FIRST OF ALL, WHAT TONY'S

27:14 - ABSOLUTELY RIGHT WITH THE THE

27:15 - IDEA OF JUST A 2 PARTY KNEELED

27:16 - ON GEORGE WASHINGTON WARNED US

27:21 - AGAINST THAT. BUT AS

27:22 - WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE PLAYING BY

27:22 - THE RULES AND WE'RE WE'RE

27:26 - GIVEN. AND THE

27:29 - ITS INTERESTING WHEN PEOPLE SAY

27:32 - THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A VOICE

27:35 - AND THAT THEY CAN'T RUN AGAINST

27:36 - THE INCUMBENTS OR WHATEVER I

27:36 - TOOK ON THE SPEAKER OF THE

27:38 - HOUSE, HE AND HIS FATHER AND

27:38 - HELD THE SEAT FOR A

27:39 - HALF-CENTURY BEFORE OUR FIRST

27:41 - CHALLENGE THEM.

27:43 - AND I WAS TOLD I'D BE

27:44 - DESTROYED. I WOULD BE ABLE TO

27:44 - LIVE IN MY OWN COMMUNITY.

27:49 - THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IT'S.

27:51 - WHAT HAPPENS IS TONY KNOWS,

27:54 - TOO, BECAUSE HE'S ON

27:55 - HIS COMMUNITY WHEN WE'RE OUT

27:57 - AND WE'RE TALKING WITH PEOPLE

27:59 - AND THE FOLKS THAT YOU'RE

28:02 - TRYING TO EARN THEIR VOTE.

28:05 - YOU PICK THE PARTY RIGHT NOW

28:08 - THAT YOU'RE THAT YOU THE MOST

28:08 - ALIGNS WITH YOUR VALUES AND

28:11 - YOUR BELIEFS.

28:15 - AND YOU STEP INTO THE ARENA

28:16 - AND TAKE THEM ON AND IT TURNED

28:18 - OUT WELL FOR ME AGAIN, I SAID

28:22 - I WAS SOMEBODY CONSENT WAS JUST

28:22 - A JUST TO JAIL GUARD AS ONE OF

28:25 - THE PHRASES THAT WAS USED.

28:26 - AND TAKING ON THE SPEAKER OF

28:29 - THE HOUSE.

28:33 - IT CAN BE DONE.

28:33 - >>WHAT ABOUT PRIMARIES? AND

28:35 - THAT CAN BE CAN BE DONE.

28:38 - BUT THE CHRIS REALITY IS THIS.

28:40 - YOU TOOK ON HISTORICAL FAMILY

28:42 - BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF

28:48 - IS THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT

28:49 - IRAN IRAN AGAINST THE PARTY,

28:49 - THE PARTY. I MEAN, THE PARTY

28:52 - STRUCTURE WAS DO THAT AND THAT

28:54 - INDEPENDENT DEMOCRAT, MY ENTIRE

28:55 - POLITICAL SYSTEM, PEOPLE ARE

28:55 - RIGHT THAT THAT THEY THEY ARE

28:57 - READY. YOU GOT TO BE A

28:59 - PROGRESSIVE MODERATE OR

29:00 - CONSERVATIVE BILL. NOTHING ELSE

29:02 - EXISTS APPEALING. SO PEOPLE WHO

29:04 - ARE POOR CAN'T WRITE ANYTHING

29:05 - WITH INDEPENDENT THINKER.

29:07 - I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE U.S.

29:10 - INDEPENDENT DEMOCRAT, I READ

29:11 - THIS INFRASTRUCTURE ONE, HE

29:12 - ACTUALLY CAN DO THAT. NO DOUBT

29:15 - ABOUT IT. BUT IT IS CHALLENGING

29:16 - TO RUN AGAINST A TONY WILLIAMS

29:19 - WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO

29:20 - COMMUNICATE GOES ALMOST EVERY

29:22 - SINGLE DAY. HE WANTS TO.

29:24 - AND FRANKLY IS RUN AGAINST THE,

29:26 - YOU KNOW, PERSPECTIVE. HE'S

29:29 - WHAT PUTIN CALLS STAMPS.

29:31 - BUT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER CAREER

29:33 - POLITICIAN, FAMILY LEGACIES

29:35 - ARE NOT READY, GET SET ALL THE

29:36 - TIME BECAUSE I'M OUT THERE.

29:39 - YOU'RE RIGHT. I DO WORK AT MY

29:40 - JOB AFFECTING PEOPLE. RESPECT

29:40 - ME AS SUCH UNITS WHICH SHOULD

29:44 - BE WHAT I DON'T THINK IT'S, YOU

29:45 - KNOW, FAIR FOR SOMEBODY TO COME

29:46 - AND SAY, WELL, WE HAVE SOME

29:50 - BUILT-IN ADVANTAGES BECAUSE

29:52 - OF THAT. THAT'S TRUE. WE CAN'T

29:53 - DENY THAT TO BE TRUE. SO THOSE

29:56 - WHO BELIEVE THAT I CAN'T EVEN

29:58 - RUN A QUICK WRIST IN

29:59 - CALIFORNIA. IT'S WORKING FOR

30:00 - REPUBLICANS TO RUN FOR

30:01 - GOVERNOR, BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW

30:05 - THAT OVER IN PRYOR BECAUSE YOU

30:06 - WAITED TO ROMNEY'S REPUBLICANS

30:07 - AND NO DEMOCRAT IN THE FALL

30:11 - BASED UPON HOW THEY ARE.

30:12 - YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THERE RULES

30:14 - OPERATE OUT THERE THIS TIME

30:15 - AROUND THAT JUNGLE PRIMARY IS

30:18 - AN ANIMAL OF ITSELF AND I'M NOT

30:21 - GOING TO THAT SARAH WOULD OFTEN

30:21 - PRIMARY BENEFIT ONE PARTY OVER

30:24 - THE OTHER.

30:26 - >>WELL, I DON'T THINK SO.

30:27 - I DON'T I DON'T. I THINK THAT'S

30:29 - THE POINT. I THINK THAT THERE'S

30:30 - A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE FRIENDLY.

30:31 - CHRISTMAS WEEK COMES UP.

30:35 - MY COLLEAGUES WE'LL SHARE IT.

30:36 - NO, I THINK THEY WOULD BE A

30:37 - LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT AN

30:40 - OPEN PRIMARY SEASON.

30:43 - I THINK WHO WOULD BENEFIT WOULD

30:47 - BE THE PEOPLE WHO

30:48 - >>FORWARD TO BRING CAMPAIGNS

30:51 - IN.

30:54 - TO EFFECTUATE WHO WILL BE ON

30:57 - BOTH BALLOTS. I MEAN THAT

30:57 - THAT'S WHERE I THINK MONEY WERE

31:00 - REALLY JUMP IN BECAUSE THEN

31:03 - THE PRIMARY IS THE LOWEST

31:05 - TURNOUT ELECTION. IT'S A FAR

31:07 - GREATER IMPACT ON YOUR VOTE

31:08 - SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE ARE FEWER

31:10 - PEOPLE.

31:13 - WHEN IT COMES TO WHO'S

31:14 - FINANCING THOSE THINGS. AND I

31:17 - KIND OF STUFF THAT'S WHERE IT

31:18 - GETS. IF WE IF WE INDEED HAVE

31:22 - OPEN PRIMARIES

31:24 - IT WOULDN'T TAKE MUCH TO GET

31:24 - A CAMPAIGN ORGANIZED TO GET

31:27 - FOLKS OUT.

31:29 - ON THE ONE SIDE OR ANOTHER JUST

31:31 - TO GET THE THE PRIMARY CHAINS.

31:32 - SO YOU BASICALLY GOT 2 PEOPLE

31:35 - OF THE SAME.

31:37 - SCHOOL BACKGROUND RUNNING

31:38 - AGAINST ONE OTHER SIMILAR OR

31:39 - WHAT THEY HAVE ON CALIFORNIA

31:41 - RIGHT NOW.

31:45 - >>CHRIS ASKED YOUR QUESTION A

31:45 - QUICK TOUR. SO BECAUSE YOU

31:46 - THOUGHT THE COAST TO START

31:47 - TIME, YOU CLOSE THE STRAIT.

31:49 - SO GEORGE WASHINGTON IS FOR

31:50 - WHAT I HAVE FOR. WHY NOT FOR

31:52 - THAT?

31:54 - WELL, GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS

31:57 - AGAINST PARTIES.

31:59 - AND FACTIONALISM AND IT'S NOT

32:01 - QUITE HONESTLY. I THINK WE ALL

32:05 - OUGHT TO BE JUST AMERICANS.

32:06 - SO THAT AND HOLDING HOLDING TO

32:09 - THE IDEALS OF AMERICA.

32:09 - >>THEREFORE, WHY WOULD YOU NOT

32:12 - BE IN SUPPORT OF?

32:13 - LET'S THE BILL THAT WOULD SAY,

32:14 - YOU KNOW, GEORGE, IF IT'S GOOD

32:17 - ENOUGH FOR GEORGE.

32:19 - THEN WE'RE GOING TO ENCOURAGE

32:21 - MORE PARTICIPATION BEING

32:23 - PROGRAM.

32:26 - >>WELL, IF THEY WANT TO HAVE

32:27 - THEIR CANDIDATE, THEY'RE FREE

32:28 - TO DO. IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH

32:30 - REALLY. AND TODAY'S WITH

32:31 - TODAY'S MEDIA, IT WOULDN'T TAKE

32:32 - MUCH TO HAVE THAT 3RD PARTY ON

32:33 - ABOUT. THEN YOU HAVE A REAL

32:36 - HORSE RACE GOING ON.

32:37 - >>WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR

32:37 - DISCUSSION JUST A MOMENT.

32:39 - BUT FIRST, LET'S GIVE OUR

32:40 - GUESTS A BRIEF BREAK. WHILE WE

32:40 - LOOK AT WHAT PACE SINCE CAMERAS

32:44 - WILL BE THIS WEEK ON THE NEXT

32:44 - PIECE AND CAPITAL PREVIEW WILL

32:47 - FOCUS ON THE STATE BUDGET AND

32:48 - BUSINESS DAVID TAYLOR,

32:49 - PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE

32:51 - PENNSYLVANIA MANUFACTURERS

32:53 - ASSOCIATION AND FELICITY

32:54 - WILLIAMS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF

32:55 - THE PENNSYLVANIA POLICY CENTER

32:56 - WILL BOTH BE HERE TOMORROW

32:58 - MORNING LIVE AT 9 O'CLOCK.

32:59 - THE STATE SENATE WILL PAY

33:02 - TRIBUTE TO AMERICA'S 200 50TH

33:04 - BIRTHDAY. THE U.S. ARMY FIELD

33:05 - BAND CHAMBER ENSEMBLE WILL BE

33:06 - THERE ALONG WITH PATRICK BURNS

33:10 - FROM AMERICA TO 50 P A THAT'S

33:10 - ON TOMORROW MORNING. TOMORROW

33:11 - AFTERNOON. EXCUSE ME LIVE AT

33:14 - 01:00PM.

33:15 - ON THE ISSUES. LOOKS AT FUNDING

33:16 - FOR CHILDREN AND YOUTH SERVICES

33:19 - WITH CHRIS KERSHNER, EXECUTIVE

33:19 - DIRECTOR OF THE CHILDREN'S

33:21 - ADVOCACY CENTER OF PENNSYLVANIA

33:22 - SHOULD BE HERE WEDNESDAY AT

33:25 - 07:00PM.

33:26 - AND JOURNALISTS ROUNDTABLE THIS

33:27 - WEEK, THE GUESTS WILL BE STEVE

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34:10 - VOTING POLICY. SENATOR LINDSEY

34:12 - WILLIAMS IS SPONSORING A

34:13 - PACKAGE OF BILLS AIMED AT

34:13 - REVISING ELECTION LAW. SELECT A

34:15 - LOOK AT SOME OF HER

34:17 - INITIATIVES. ONE OF THE

34:19 - PROPOSALS WOULD ALLOW FOR PRE

34:20 - CANVASSING FOR MAIL IN BALLOTS

34:21 - CENTER WINGS FOR THOSE THAT ARE

34:21 - NOT FAMILIAR. WHAT SHOULD WE

34:25 - KNOW ABOUT PRE CANVASSING?

34:26 - >>WELL, SO BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY

34:29 - MILLION NOW ABOUT. IN SOME

34:32 - STATES, YOU HAVE THE

34:35 - ABILITY TO TO GO THROUGH THOSE

34:35 - BALLOTS, NOT NECESSARILY COUNT

34:38 - THEM TO GO THROUGH THEM PRIOR

34:39 - TO PENNSYLVANIA. WE'VE FOR SOME

34:41 - REASON DECIDED WE START

34:44 - ELECTION DAY TO DO THAT.

34:45 - SO SHE'S TRYING TO RETURN TO

34:47 - THAT OPPORTUNITY.

34:49 - >>TO PHYSICIAN AT CENTER THAT,

34:53 - YES, I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THE I

34:56 - COME FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT

34:57 - SECURITY BACKGROUND AND

34:59 - INFORMATION SECURITY AND

34:59 - INFORMATION PROTECTION FOR THE

35:00 - PENNSYLVANIA AIR GUARD AS CHIEF

35:02 - OF INFORMATION PROTECTION.

35:04 - WHEN YOU OPEN UP PROCESSES TO

35:09 - ADDITIONAL STEPS AND YOU GIVE

35:12 - MORE TIME AND REALIZE THAT OVER

35:12 - THE COURSE OF THE 4 YEAR TERM

35:16 - FOR THE GOVERNOR

35:16 - YOU'VE GOT 200 BILLION DOLLARS

35:19 - AND THE BUDGET.

35:21 - THERE'S A LOT OF INCENTIVE FOR

35:23 - PEOPLE TO TRY AND GAIN THE

35:26 - UPPER HAND ON THIS.

35:30 - AND SO 200 BILLION DOLLARS

35:30 - THAT'S ON. YOU KNOW, THAT'S A

35:31 - LOT OF MONEY. THERE'S AND, YOU

35:32 - KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT

35:32 - TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. WE'RE

35:34 - GOING TO HAVE ONE TO HAVE.

35:36 - THE ABILITY TO MOTIVATE THAT

35:39 - ARE IMPACTED.

35:41 - >>THE

35:41 - >>OPENING UP OF THOSE BALLOTS

35:44 - AHEAD

35:47 - OF TIME GIVES THE GIVES

35:48 - SOMEBODY THE ABILITY TO YOU

35:50 - CAN. I MEAN, YOU CAN RUN

35:51 - THROUGH THESE THINGS BY HAND

35:52 - AND JUST SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE'VE

35:53 - GOT THIS IS LOOKS GOOD AND SO

35:56 - COULDN'T.

35:57 - BUT AT SAME TIME IN YOUR HEAD,

35:58 - YOU'RE SAYING WHILE THERE'S A

35:59 - SIGNIFICANT IMPACT HERE FROM

36:03 - THIS. FOR THIS CANDIDATE, IT'S

36:06 - NOT THE ONE I WANT.

36:08 - LET'S WORK ON ON GETTING MORE

36:09 - MORE PEOPLE IN OUR TIME TO

36:12 - FIGURE OUT A WAY TO.

36:13 - MANIPULATED. WE'VE SEEN IT.

36:14 - I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE IT HASN'T

36:18 - HAPPENED. AND

36:22 - THE 3 MAIN MOTIVATORS FOR

36:22 - CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR MONEY,

36:23 - POWER AND SEX. AND

36:24 - UNFORTUNATELY, WE SEE THAT HERE

36:27 - AND

36:28 - HARRISBURG AND IN DC ALL 3 OF

36:29 - THOSE ARE SEEN IN CERTAIN IT

36:33 - WAS HIM ONE, ONE BODY. OR ONE

36:37 - GROUP OF PEOPLE.

36:39 - SO THE MOTIVATOR IS THERE FOR.

36:42 - PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO INFLUENCE

36:47 - ELECTIONS. AND GIVING

36:48 - EXTRA STEPS. SUCH IS ALLOWING

36:49 - PEOPLE TO SEE THE BALLOTS AHEAD

36:52 - OF TIME.

36:55 - IT JUST OFFERS ADDITIONAL

36:56 - OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT TYPE

36:56 - OF FRAUD. ITS INTERESTING THAT.

37:01 - WHEN NOT UP UNTIL WE PASSED THE

37:05 - ACT. 77.

37:07 - WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE

37:10 - RESULTS. ELECTION LIE.

37:11 - FOR ALL ABOUT EVERYBODY.

37:13 - THE CAST A BALLOT. NOW THAT

37:19 - WE'VE GOT THIS PEOPLE ARE

37:19 - SAYING, WELL, WE WANT HERE'S AN

37:20 - OPPORTUNITY. LET'S LET'S GET

37:21 - PRE CANVASSING TO GET IT DONE.

37:22 - THEY WERE ABLE TO GET ALL THOSE

37:25 - COUNTED ON.

37:26 - THE SAME MIGHT PRIOR TO ACT.

37:29 - 77.

37:30 - IT'S EVEN MORE TELLING THAT

37:32 - GOING BACK TO THE DAYS OF THE

37:35 - STAGECOACH FROM PEOPLE

37:36 - DELIVERING BALLOTS IN COUNTIES

37:37 - WITH A HORSE AND BUGGY AND THEN

37:41 - SENDING THE TELEGRAPH. WE STILL

37:42 - HAVE WE STILL HAVE ELECTION

37:46 - RESULTS THE NEXT DAY.

37:48 - WE CAN COUNT THE BALLOTS,

37:49 - ESPECIALLY WITH THE MACHINES

37:51 - THAT ARE DOING THAT.

37:54 - THAT THEY CAN MUCH QUICKER THAN

37:54 - THEY CAN BE DONE BY HAND AND

37:56 - HOW THEY WERE BEFORE. AND YET

38:00 - FOR SOME REASON.

38:02 - NOW, WITH ALL THE MACHINES AND

38:04 - THE COMPUTATION IS BEING DONE

38:05 - IN NANOSECONDS. WE CAN'T WE

38:07 - CAN'T GET IT DONE IN A SINGLE

38:08 - NIGHT. THAT TO ME IS

38:10 - PREPOSTEROUS.

38:11 - >>WAS JUST THIS ONE. THERE'S

38:14 - LOT MORE PEOPLE VOTED IN

38:15 - STAGECOACH HERE. WELL, FOR ONE

38:18 - THING. AND THE REALITY IS, YOU

38:20 - KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW

38:22 - CHRISTIAN SLIPPED TO THE BUT HE

38:24 - SUGGESTED THAT WE'VE SEEN

38:27 - PEOPLE IN ITALY THIS TELL ME

38:28 - WHEN THAT IS BECAUSE THE TRUTH

38:31 - IS WE INCREASED CAMPUS BEFORE

38:34 - IT WAS NO, IT'S THAT NOT ONE

38:35 - INCIDENT ANYWAY, USING DEMOCRAT

38:38 - OR REPUBLICAN. USING IT TO

38:40 - ADVANCE THE CAL. IT'S REALLY

38:43 - SORT ELECTION. SO I'M NOT QUITE

38:47 - SURE WHAT THIS LOOKED INTO

38:48 - THE PROCESS. THE REALITY IS

38:49 - WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THIS CAME

38:50 - BECAUSE OF CONTESTED ELECTIONS.

38:56 - WE'RE HARD TO KILL IN THAT TIME

39:00 - PERIOD. GIVEN AND THOSE

39:01 - BALLOTS. THAT'S SO LET'S TELL

39:04 - THE WHOLE STORY. SO WE'RE AT

39:05 - IT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE HEARD?

39:06 - WOULD YOU COUNT THOSE BALLOTS?

39:08 - SO IT'S AN INTERN. THAT'S WHY

39:10 - THEY WANT TO HEAR THE PROCESS

39:13 - SPEED IT UP. AND WITH ALL DUE

39:16 - RESPECT TO TECHNOLOGY,

39:17 - TECHNOLOGY HAS NOTHING TO DO

39:19 - WITH THE PROCESS. APPRECIATE

39:23 - THE SINK OR FACT. KERRY.

39:23 - AND SO THE PENNY FOR EVERY THE

39:25 - COUNT OF THE VOTE IS THAT

39:28 - PARTICULAR ELECTION CYCLE WE'VE

39:31 - A

39:32 - PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS. WE'RE

39:32 - NOT COUNTING ON THAT EVIL.

39:33 - WE'VE HAD CONGRESSIONAL

39:36 - ELECTIONS IN PENNSYLVANIA.

39:37 - THEY HAVE NOT THINKING PLEASE

39:39 - ON THAT EVENING. SO.

39:40 - WHO HAS ROOM TO TELL THE STORY?

39:43 - LET'S TELL A COMPLETELY

39:44 - DIFFERENT.

39:44 - >>SURE. I MEAN, AND THE SHORT

39:45 - STATEMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE,

39:46 - IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GO INTO

39:49 - DEPTH ON ALL OF THAT. YOU ARE

39:50 - AND YOU'RE RIGHT THAT SOME OF

39:51 - THOSE ELECTIONS WERE HELD UP.

39:53 - IT EVEN BACK IN THE DAY THAT

39:54 - THE PAPER BALLOT. AND THAT WAS

39:56 - BECAUSE OF CHALLENGES. AGAIN,

39:57 - ELECTION FRAUD HAS BEEN GONE

39:58 - SINCE WE'VE HAD ELECTIONS IN

40:02 - THIS COUNTRY.

40:03 - SO THERE ARE ALWAYS CHALLENGES.

40:05 - CHRISTIE SLIP THAT IN THERE.

40:07 - >>ELECTION FRAUD IS NO BOOKS.

40:09 - TELL ME WHERE IT'S BEEN ONE

40:10 - PERCENT OF THE VOTING PROCESS.

40:16 - WHAT I MEAN, WHERE IT'S BEEN

40:17 - ONE PERCENT OF THE VOTING

40:17 - PROCESS. WE WEAR WHAT PERCENT

40:18 - OF THE VOTE IN A PARTICULAR

40:20 - ACTION.

40:20 - HAS BEEN SUBJECT OR BEEN

40:21 - AFFECTED WERE CONNECTED BY

40:24 - VOTER FRAUD.

40:27 - >>WELL, THEN, MILES FATHER WAS

40:27 - FLAWED. KNOW THAT ONE CAME DOWN

40:30 - TO ONE VOTE, SAYING THAT I WAS

40:32 - THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT LIKE,

40:32 - ALRIGHT, I DO HAVE AN EXAMPLE.

40:33 - I DO HAVE AN EXAMPLE. LEHIGH

40:36 - COUNTY.

40:37 - WE HAD IN THE 2021 ELECTION.

40:42 - WE PURPOSELY DID NOT

40:43 - RUN THE INVESTIGATION ON THE

40:45 - 2020 ELECTION. WE WENT TO THE

40:45 - 2021 ELECTION WITH LEHIGH

40:48 - COUNTY.

40:49 - LEHIGH COUNTY WITH THE DROP

40:53 - BOXES. THE DROP BOXES.

40:55 - WE SHOWED IT WAS SOMEWHERE

40:58 - AROUND 300 AND SOME.

41:01 - ADDITIONAL BALLOTS IN THE DROP

41:04 - BOXES USING THE VIDEO RECORDS.

41:06 - THERE WERE 300 BALLOTS MORE.

41:07 - THEN THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO

41:09 - SHOWED UP AT THOSE DROP BOXES.

41:12 - THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY GOT

41:13 - INVOLVED AND CHECKED OTHER

41:15 - ABOUT DROP BOXES. THERE WERE

41:19 - ALMOST 1000 EXTRA BALLOTS.

41:21 - NOW THOSE EXTRA BALLOTS WERE

41:24 - FOR MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS.

41:27 - I THINK THERE WERE 21 OR

41:27 - ELECTIONS THAT WERE WITHIN THAT

41:29 - MARGIN OF ERROR. SO THIS STUFF

41:32 - GOES ON AND GOES ON. IN A TEAM

41:34 - THAT WON THE ELECTION. THAT WAS

41:39 - ACTUALLY CAUGHT ONE ELECTION

41:39 - WHERE THE HERE'S ONE CAN DO IT

41:40 - WITH THIS IN EFFECT.

41:44 - >>IN THAT YEAR.

41:46 - IN PENNSYLVANIA ELECTIONS, THE

41:47 - WORK THAT DIDN'T THAT PEOPLE

41:50 - DIDN'T DO. IT'S TEDIOUS THINGS

41:51 - DONE. BY THE WAY, THE ONE USE

41:54 - IT WAS CAUGHT.

41:56 - CHRIS, WE DON'T HAVE A IT WAS A

41:57 - LITTLE ROCK. WE DON'T. WE

41:57 - DON'T. AND BY THE WAY, WITH ALL

42:01 - DUE RESPECT, I DO NOT WANT A

42:01 - DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN IN

42:03 - AMERICA THINKING THAT VOTING

42:06 - PROCESS IN THIS COUNTRY.

42:09 - IS NOT EFFECTIVE. DOESN'T

42:10 - FUNCTION, DOESN'T WORK WELL, WE

42:14 - SAY THAT AS A DEMOCRAT OR

42:15 - REPUBLICAN TO SUGGEST THAT

42:15 - THERE'S WITH ELECTION WHERE

42:16 - SOME IRREGULARITY, KURT, GREAT

42:20 - IF THEY GET CAUGHT AT SALUKI.

42:20 - SO THAT MEANS THE PROCESS WORKS

42:25 - FOR US. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE

42:25 - HAVE A PROBLEM. DOES THE

42:26 - PROCESS WORK THAT SUGGEST THAT

42:27 - THERE WOULD BE LIKE ME SAYING

42:29 - WE GOT A

42:30 - JEWELRY STORE. PEOPLE ARE OKAY

42:32 - TO BREAK-IN TO VISIT ME TO JOIN

42:34 - SOURCE TO GO OUT OF IT MEANS

42:35 - THAT THE JEWISH OR SHOULD HAVE

42:38 - SECURE IS WHAT WE DO HAVE 4

42:38 - ELECTIONS AND THAT WE NEED TO

42:42 - HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S

42:42 - DIFFERENT. WE'RE CURRENTLY

42:44 - WORKS. DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF

42:45 - SENSE TO ME. THEY WEREN'T

42:45 - CAUGHT NUMBER ONE. NUMBER 2,

42:46 - THERE'S NO WAY TO VERIFY WHO

42:49 - WON THE ELECTION.

42:50 - >>THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN SEE.

42:50 - THAT'S THE BIGGEST FRUSTRATION

42:53 - FOR ME ON THIS IS YOU CAN'T

42:56 - CERTIFY YOU SHOULDN'T BE A

42:57 - CERTIFYING ELECTIONS WHEN, YOU

42:59 - KNOW, THERE'S 1000 EXTRA

43:00 - BALLOTS OUT THERE THAT YOU

43:03 - CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR.

43:04 - AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THAT YOU

43:06 - DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS

43:07 - REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT,

43:08 - INDEPENDENT, WHOEVER THAT WAS

43:10 - VOTED IN THOSE EXTRA BALLOTS.

43:11 - BUT THOSE BALLOTS WERE ALL THAT

43:13 - LEGAL. AND BUT THE END, THE

43:16 - PEOPLE WEREN'T CAUGHT. THEY

43:17 - WEREN'T ARRESTED. BUT THE

43:19 - DISTRICT ATTORNEY. SAID THAT

43:21 - HE WILL START PROSECUTING GOING

43:24 - FORWARD.

43:27 - AND THAT HAS ACTUALLY A

43:27 - SIGNIFICANT WAY AND LET THE

43:29 - MARKET WORK. RISK SAYS, FIRST

43:33 - OF ALL, THIS IT WAS

43:33 - IDENTIFIED.

43:34 - >>YOU SAID THAT IN KITS TO

43:34 - PEOPLE K FUNDING THIS PEOPLE.

43:38 - THEY DID STOP THE PROCESS.

43:39 - BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT YOU

43:40 - DID RESPOND TO WAS IN A SINGLE

43:44 - ELECTION CYCLE. THERE ARE

43:46 - THOUSANDS ELECTIONS A YEAR.

43:47 - WE'RE NOW FACES DID NOT OCCUR.

43:51 - TO BRING. AND I ASKED FOR ONE

43:53 - PERSON. YOU BROUGHT ONE

43:54 - INCIDENT. WE DO HAVE ONE

43:54 - PERCENT FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

43:57 - CHRIS.

43:59 - AND THE IDEA OF WHERE WHERE WE

44:01 - WE WE WE WOULD ASK YOU, YOU

44:04 - HAVE TO SCRATCH YOUR HEAD.

44:05 - 3 MINUTES OFF OF ONE INCIDENT.

44:10 - WE DO NOT HAVE A CRISIS OF

44:12 - FRAUDULENT VOTER ACTIVITY IN

44:12 - PENNSYLVANIA GOT PERIODS.

44:15 - STOP.

44:18 - >>LET ME JUMP IN HERE JUST

44:18 - BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE

44:19 - MORE MINUTES. I WANT TO TOUCH

44:20 - UPON A FEW MORE TOPICS. LET'S

44:23 - TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

44:24 - ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND HOW

44:25 - HAVE YOU SEEN ARTIFICIAL

44:26 - INTELLIGENCE INFLUENCE

44:28 - ELECTIONS IN PENNSYLVANIA?

44:33 - >>I'M NOT SURE THAT I'VE I

44:34 - OTHER THAN I MEAN, THERE ARE

44:35 - ADS THAT ARE BEING GENERATED

44:37 - USING AI.

44:41 - SKEWS ME.

44:42 - I'D CERTAINLY BE INTERESTED IN

44:43 - FINDING OUT IF IT IS BEING USED

44:45 - TO INFLUENCE AND ANYWAY, THAT'S

44:48 - NEFARIOUS. BUT I HAVEN'T

44:51 - RECEIVED ANYTHING ON

44:51 - THAT YET.

44:52 - >>SENATOR, WILL YOU SAY YEAH,

44:54 - WITNESS, I WOULD SAY THE SHARES

44:55 - THAT HE'S VERY ACTIVE. THOSE AS

44:58 - YOU CHEAT.

45:00 - AND BOTH PARTIES USING THERE

45:03 - EVERY RUPA SHOWS UP AT YOUR

45:04 - DOOR SAY I CAN MAKE YOU WIN

45:07 - AN ELECTION HAS THE CAPABILITY

45:09 - TO DO IT. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO

45:10 - TECHNOLOGY. AND SO IT'S A

45:12 - GROWING MARKET PLACE AND WE

45:15 - WILL BE CONFRONTED WITH, YOU

45:18 - KNOW, HOW REGULATED FOR IT

45:18 - DIFFERENT WAYS BECAUSE IT HAS

45:21 - THE ABILITY. WHAT'S WORSE IT

45:23 - ALL TO YOUR RECORD BECAUSE

45:26 - THAT'S THAT IS WHAT THAT IS.

45:27 - IT CERTAINLY HAS THE ABILITY TO

45:28 - GENERATE DIFFERENT NARRATIVE.

45:31 - THEN THEY MAY NOT BE REFLECTIVE

45:34 - OF THE CANDIDATES POSITION IS.

45:36 - DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN.

45:39 - AND BECAUSE IT'S SO CHEAP.

45:40 - AND SO WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR

45:42 - PHONE, WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR

45:46 - LAPTOP, THEY'RE SO ALMOST EVERY

45:47 - ELECTION, EVERY ELECTION IN

45:48 - BOSTON WHERE YOU ARE

45:50 - CONSTANTLY.

45:51 - >>ARE THERE CURRENTLY ANY STATE

45:52 - SPECIFIC REGULATIONS REGARDING

45:54 - THE USE OF AI ELECTIONS?

45:58 - >>NO, NOT THAT I'M

46:01 - AWARE OF. I MEAN, I WAS LIKE IF

46:02 - THEY FALL UNDER, OBVIOUSLY THE

46:03 - LAWS THAT WE CURRENTLY CREATE.

46:06 - SO YOU CAN'T LIVE OR

46:09 - IN THE LINE 2 DAYS IS OUR FOR

46:12 - ME. BUT YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT I

46:13 - SEE, THE ONE THING I DO IT,

46:15 - THEY SEE IT. THAT BEING SAID,

46:18 - IF THEY FOLLOW THE TRADITIONAL

46:18 - LAWS THAT EXIST, SO WHATEVER

46:20 - THOSE LAWS ARE FOLLOWED, BUT

46:21 - THERE'S A LOT OF CREATIVE

46:23 - WITHIN THE GREATER.

46:26 - >>A LITTLE EARLIER IN THE

46:27 - PROGRAM, SENATOR DASCHLE

46:29 - REFERRED TO ACT 77 OF 2019.

46:29 - CAN GENERAL WHAT PROVISIONS

46:30 - ARE WORKING AND WHAT WOULD YOU

46:33 - LIKE TO SEE REVISED?

46:35 - >>I'LL JUST GO WITH WHAT I'D

46:37 - LIKE TO SEE REVISED. THIS WAS

46:37 - THE WORST VOTE IN MY CAREER.

46:42 - AND I APOLOGIZE TO THE COUNTY

46:43 - COMMISSIONERS OVER AND OVER

46:45 - AGAIN FOR.

46:47 - WHAT WE DID WITH THE MAIL IN

46:47 - BALLOTS. BY MY MIND,

46:51 - GENERATING. A COURT ENSURING

46:55 - THAT WE HAD SECURE MEANS OF

46:57 - CONTROLLING THE ELECTIONS.

47:00 - TO ME, IT WAS.

47:01 - HAD COUNTY OFFICIALS WHO ARE

47:05 - GETTING DEATH THREATS THAT HAD

47:07 - TO LOCK THE DOORS FOR THE FIRST

47:08 - TIME IN THEIR LIVES. THEIR KIDS

47:08 - WERE GOING THREATS ON CAMPUS.

47:16 - THE DROP BOXES OF THE BUT I

47:17 - SIGNED UP IN LEHIGH COUNTY.

47:19 - THERE ARE 21 OR 25 OFFICIALS UP

47:21 - THERE OR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

47:22 - RUNNING IN SUMMIT DON'T KNOW

47:23 - WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE

47:24 - ACTUALLY THE PERSON THAT THE

47:28 - PEOPLE VOTED FOR. SO.

47:31 - FOR ME,

47:32 - THAT'S WHO THAT'S VERY

47:33 - CONCERNING. AND I LIKE I SAID,

47:34 - IF I CAN TAKE MY VOTE BACK OUT

47:37 - AND TAKE MY VOTE BACK. BUT

47:39 - THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING.

47:40 - SENATOR LIVES.

47:43 - >>WELL, I THINK THAT

47:45 - WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE AN

47:45 - EXPANDED BUILDING PEOPLE TO

47:48 - VOTE.

47:50 - SECURELY OBVIOUSLY. BUT YOU

47:51 - NEED TO STAND IN OUR CONTRACT

47:52 - THAT LETS PEOPLE ARE VOTING.

47:54 - THOSE PEOPLE SIGNED A VOTE.

47:55 - IT FORCES, SIR, THIS IS

47:57 - RHETORIC.

47:59 - UNDERSCORES WHY PEOPLE ARE

48:02 - DISINCLINED TO PARTICIPATE

48:03 - BECAUSE THEY WOULD SAY IT'S

48:05 - A VIOLENCE.

48:06 - I DON'T THINK CHRISTIE IS

48:09 - APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE. WHO WILL

48:10 - SUGGEST IF THERE ARE THREATS TO

48:15 - LUNCH. I BECAUSE THEY DISAGREE

48:15 - WITH THEIR POLITICAL VOTE FOR

48:18 - YOU. YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND.

48:19 - THAT PERSON JUST FOR THE

48:19 - SIMPLE. NOW, THOSE ARE THE LAWS

48:21 - NEED TO CHANGE THREATENING

48:22 - SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A

48:23 - DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, A

48:26 - DIFFERENCE OF A VOTE, 3 OF THEM

48:27 - WITH THE FAMILY, THOSE THAT

48:28 - PEOPLE SHOULD GET LOCKED UP.

48:29 - THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE ARE

48:32 - UNDERMINING THIS COUNTRY.

48:34 - AND I'M TIRED OF THE TRYING TO

48:35 - WRAP THEMSELVES IN THE FLAG AND

48:36 - THE PATRIOTS TONIGHT. ANYTHING

48:38 - OTHER THAN COUCH. SO I REALLY

48:39 - NEED TO EXPAND THE OPPORTUNITY

48:42 - FOR PEOPLE

48:42 - TO VOTE 1000. PEOPLE IN THIS

48:43 - COUNTRY WHO WORK HARD EVERY

48:45 - SINGLE DAY, PAY TAXES AND DON'T

48:46 - HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE. THAT'S

48:49 - UNFAIR. AND THOSE PEOPLE LIKE

48:51 - IT, THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM.

48:53 - A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE A DECISION

48:54 - IN THE CORRECT DECISION SAID

48:57 - THAT THE U.S. AS YOU DID TO

49:00 - MAKE SURE WE TRY TO CREATE A

49:01 - CREATIVE, EXPAND THE OPTION FOR

49:05 - WHAT CAN BE DONE TO INSTILL A

49:06 - GREATER SENSE OF CONFIDENCE

49:09 - IN OUR ELECTORAL SYSTEM.

49:10 - >>WELL, I THINK PEOPLE NEED

49:13 - TO SEE THAT THE THE GOVERNMENT

49:15 - IS TAKING ELECTION SECURITY

49:18 - SERIOUSLY.

49:21 - THE FOLLOW THROUGH AND THE

49:23 - PROSECUTION'S, FOR EXAMPLE,

49:24 - JUDICIAL WATCH AND FOUND A GUY

49:25 - THAT VOTED ARE REGISTERED AND

49:28 - VOTED 7 TIMES. ALLEGHENY

49:32 - COUNTY. IT WAS CAUGHT BY

49:34 - ALLEGHENY COUNTY ELECTION.

49:38 - OFFICIALS AND AND AROSE

49:38 - ALLEGHENY COUNTY ELECTION

49:39 - OFFICIALS SAID THEY CALLED THE

49:40 - DEPARTMENT STATEMENT SAID LET

49:42 - HIM GO.

49:44 - AND THAT WAS IN 2018. I BELIEVE

49:48 - SOME 2018 OR 2020, BUT IT WAS

49:48 - CAUGHT AHEAD OF TIME AND IT

49:51 - WASN'T WASN'T STOPPED.

49:55 - YOU KNOW, HAVING A LITTLE BIT

49:56 - OF TIME AS A CRIME PREVENTION

49:57 - AND SEE ON THE MILITARY.

50:00 - I

50:01 - KNOW THAT WHEN YOU ARE ACTIVELY

50:04 - GOING AFTER CASES, YOU'RE GOING

50:05 - TO HAVE THE REPORTS OF

50:08 - INCIDENTS GO UP.

50:10 - AND A LOT OF LOCAL ELECTED

50:11 - OFFICIALS DON'T WANT TO SEE

50:11 - THAT HAPPEN IN THEIR COUNTY.

50:12 - IT'S LIKE ALL RIGHT NOW WE'RE

50:13 - GOING TO BE SEEN AS A PROBLEM.

50:15 - WELL, THAT'S NOT THE ATTITUDE

50:16 - YOU SHOULD HAVE. YOU SHOULD

50:19 - HAVE THE ATTITUDE OF LET'S GO

50:21 - AFTER THESE PEOPLE AS PROSECUTE

50:23 - THEM AND MAKE IT PUBLIC AND

50:23 - SAY, LOOK, WE'RE COMING.

50:24 - WE'RE COMING AFTER YOU AND WE

50:27 - ARE GOING TO PROSECUTE IF YOU

50:27 - COMMIT ELECTION FRAUD OR NOT.

50:31 - ANY KIND OF MALFEASANCE,

50:34 - SERVICE REASONS.

50:37 - GO AFTER THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

50:39 - CONDUCTING IT AND OPENING UP

50:40 - THE SYSTEM, MAKING IT

50:42 - VULNERABLE.

50:43 - >>SENATOR WILLIAMS, YOU GET THE

50:44 - LAST WORD. WHAT COULD INSTILL

50:44 - CONFIDENCE IN OUR ELECTORAL

50:47 - SYSTEM?

50:47 - >>WHAT DO WE DO? OUR JOB?

50:50 - WE GET THERE.

50:51 - YOU KNOW, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT

50:53 - TO THE STATE, I MEAN THIS THIS

50:54 - WHICH IS CRITICAL BECAUSE WHAT

50:57 - THE SUPREME COURT DATE. NOT

50:57 - BECAUSE OF ALL THINGS THAT ARE

50:59 - FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY. PEOPLE

51:02 - WORE A SUIT TO WORK FOR HOW LOW

51:04 - COST OF GAS, MAKE SURE THEY

51:05 - CAN AFFORD TO BUY DAY OR 2.

51:07 - MAKE SURE THAT THE CHILDREN

51:10 - HAVE A

51:11 - BETTER LIFE GOING FORWARD AS

51:12 - THEY DID. YOU KNOW THAT IN HERE

51:13 - THIS AFTERNOON FROM THE

51:15 - GRANDPARENTS. WE NEED TO STOP

51:18 - THE

51:19 - POLITICAL RHETORIC WITH HER,

51:19 - SOMEONE TO TESLA, WHICH I LOVE.

51:20 - THE CAMPUS OF THE CAUSE.

51:21 - THE PAIR DID THEIR JOB

51:23 - POLITICALLY. SO WHEN YOU GO

51:25 - BACK TO THE BASE WERE SENT

51:28 - THERE TO DO GOOD FOR PEOPLE

51:29 - NOT TO BE STRUCK ABOUT THE

51:29 - LOSSES THAT WERE INVOLVED IN

51:30 - TODAY. AND SO MY HOPE IS THAT.

51:33 - THOSE ARE ELECTED OFFICE WILL

51:36 - GET THAT MESSAGE. IT'S SO I

51:37 - THINK YOU'D SEE A TURNAROUND

51:37 - TERMS OF VOTER PARTICIPATION.

51:41 - >>OUR GUESTS HAVE BEEN STATES,

51:43 - SENATE, 7 SENATE STATE

51:44 - GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE MEMBER

51:45 - SENATOR ANTHONY WILLIAMS AND

51:46 - MAJORITY CHAIR SENATOR CRIS

51:47 - DUSH. GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU BOTH

51:48 - FOR JOINING US. THANK YOU FOR

51:51 - HAVING US. THANK YOU. BASS AND

51:52 - RECENTLY SPOKE WITH SENATOR

51:54 - JUDY WARD ABOUT HER LEGISLATION

51:55 - TO INCREASE THE PENALTIES FOR

51:56 - UNINTENTIONAL DEATH ON THE

51:58 - ROADWAY.

52:03 - WELCOME TO OUR PROGRAM.

52:03 - >>YOU'VE INTRODUCED LEGISLATION

52:04 - TO CHANGE THE PENALTIES FOR

52:05 - CAUSING UNINTENTIONAL DEATH ON

52:07 - THE ROADWAY. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE

52:08 - TO SEE THESE PENALTIES CHANGE?

52:15 - >>SO WHAT THE LEGISLATION DOES

52:15 - NOT LIKE TO TELL THE WHEN I ON

52:18 - THE BACK END OF THIS. BUT WHAT

52:21 - THE LEGISLATION DOES IT SENATE

52:22 - BILL, 1286 WHAT IT DOES.

52:23 - IT INCREASES PENALTIES FOR

52:25 - CAUSING UNINTENTIONAL DEATH

52:28 - FROM A MERE $500 FINE TO A

52:31 - MISDEMEANOR AND IT'S PUNISHABLE

52:35 - BY AND A FINE OF UP TO $2500

52:36 - OR AND OR A LICENSE SUSPENSION

52:39 - OF UP TO 2 YEARS. AND THAT

52:40 - WOULD BE DECIDED BY A JUDGE.

52:44 - TO DO THAT ON THE LEGISLATION

52:48 - STEMS FROM TO CONSTITUENTS IN

52:51 - MY LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT.

52:53 - I REPRESENT 5 COUNTIES AND I

52:55 - HAD TO CONSTITUENTS REACH OUT

52:59 - PRETTY CLOSE TOGETHER TO HOW

52:59 - MANY OF THIS VERY TRAGIC

53:01 - STORIES ABOUT THEIR LOVED ONES.

53:01 - WE'VE BEEN KILLED. THE FIRST

53:05 - ONE. KYLE CUSTER LOW HAD BEEN

53:08 - RIDING HIS MOTORCYCLE FROM THE

53:10 - WHERE HE WAS FROM BLAIR COUNTY,

53:11 - BUT HE WAS RIDING HIS

53:12 - MOTORCYCLE IN LANCASTER AND

53:15 - A DRIVER CROSS. THE CENTERLINE

53:19 - CRASHED INTO HIM, INJECTING HIM

53:20 - AND HE WAS DEAD AT THE SCENE

53:24 - AND THE DRIVER, THE FAMILY OF

53:28 - KYLE FELDT, SOME OF THE PEOPLE

53:29 - TO SEEING FELT THAT THEY HAD

53:31 - SMELLED MARIJUANA. THEY THOUGHT

53:34 - HE WAS MAYBE. UNDER THE

53:36 - INFLUENCE OF SOMETHING. BUT THE

53:39 - POLICE DID NOT HAVE ANY KIND

53:43 - PROBABLE CAUSE TO GO IN AND DO

53:46 - A SEARCH OF HIS CAR SEARCHES

53:48 - PERSON. AND SO CONSEQUENTLY,

53:51 - HE RECEIVED A $500 FINE.

53:55 - ANOTHER WAS ON GLEN COMPTON.

53:57 - HE AND HIS WIFE WERE IN THEIR

53:58 - CAR, A SLOWDOWN IN THE

54:01 - CONSTRUCTION ZONE. CRASHED INTO

54:04 - REAR ENDED THEY WERE SQUEEZED

54:07 - UNDER IT. A SEMI TRUCK AND MR.

54:12 - COMPTON. PASSED AWAY. HE DIED

54:13 - THE WAIT TIME. VERY SERIOUS

54:16 - INJURIES.

54:17 - AND AGAIN, THE GENTLEMAN AND

54:19 - THE OTHER CAR THAT HIT THEM.

54:21 - BUT OUT WITH HIS CELL PHONE

54:23 - IN HIS HAND, THEY FELT THAT HE

54:26 - HAD BEEN DISTRACTED. BUT

54:27 - THERE'S NO PROBABLE CAUSE TO

54:30 - SEARCH HIS PHONE. AND SO

54:35 - THEREFORE, THOSE IN THIS 2

54:35 - INSTANCES, THE PEOPLE THAT

54:36 - CRASHED INTO THEM OR CHARGED

54:39 - JUST A $500 FINE. AND THERE

54:42 - WAS A DEATH INVOLVED AND IT'S

54:42 - BEEN A BIT OF A LOOPHOLE WILL

54:47 - CALL IT SO WE, YOU KNOW, BASED

54:51 - ON ON THAT, THOSE REPORTS IN

54:52 - THOSE TRAGIC INCIDENTS WE

54:54 - DECIDED TO PUT FORTH

54:56 - LEGISLATION TO CHANGE THE

55:00 - PENALTIES AND IT'S, YOU KNOW,

55:01 - IT'S IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, VERY

55:02 - DIFFICULT SITUATION FOR ALL

55:05 - PARTIES INVOLVED. BUT YOU GET

55:08 - THE LEGISLATION IS

55:09 - SUPPORTED WHY THE DISTRICT

55:10 - ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION AND THAT

55:13 - THAT'S BEEN THE STATE POLICE.

55:14 - >>NOW YOU MENTIONED WHAT THE

55:15 - PENALTIES WOULD BE UNDER THIS

55:16 - BILL. HOW DID YOU GET TO THOSE

55:19 - SPECIFIC NUMBERS?

55:22 - >>IT WAS IT WAS JUST WITH

55:24 - WORKING WITH SOME OF THE

55:25 - STAKEHOLDER GROUPS. THAT WAS

55:25 - KIND OF WHAT WE CAME UP WITH.

55:28 - >>AND WHERE IS THIS LEGISLATION

55:29 - IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS

55:31 - CURRENTLY?

55:34 - >>SO WE CAN.

55:36 - I CHEER THE TRANSPORTATION

55:36 - COMMITTEE. WE RAN IT IN THE

55:38 - TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE LAST

55:41 - WEEK AND IT WILL. HOPEFULLY BE

55:45 - BROUGHT UP SOME LOOK, I THINK

55:48 - IT'S PRETTY

55:48 - TIMELY AND SO I'D LIKE TO GET

55:49 - IT OUT. THE SENATE HERE IN THE

55:54 - NEXT, YOU KNOW. ONE TO 2

55:55 - MONTHS. SO HOPEFULLY SOMETIME

55:58 - VERY SOON AND IT WILL GO THEN

56:01 - AT WE VOTE ON IT. THE WHOLE

56:01 - FLOOR. IT'S 4 VOTE. THE SENATE.

56:02 - IT WILL GO INTO THE HOUSE TO

56:04 - THERE COMMITTEE. MAYBE VOTE AND

56:08 - THEN THE FULL HOUSE TO VOTE

56:09 - AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO THE

56:12 - GOVERNOR'S DESK WORK.

56:13 - >>SENATOR JUDY WARD, THANK YOU

56:15 - FOR JOINING US.

56:19 - >>THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

56:21 - >>THAT INCLUDES TODAY SHOW JOIN

56:23 - US FOR TOMORROW'S EPISODE OF

56:24 - THE PEACE AND CAPITAL PREVIEW

56:24 - WHERE WE'LL DISCUSS THE IMPACT

56:27 - OF THE STATE BUDGET AND

56:29 - BUSINESS. DAVID TAYLOR,

56:30 - PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE

56:32 - PENNSYLVANIA MANUFACTURERS

56:34 - ASSOCIATION AND FELICITY

56:35 - WILLIAMS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF

56:36 - THE PENNSYLVANIA POLICY CENTER

56:37 - WILL BOTH BE HERE TOMORROW

56:38 - MORNING AT 09:00AM. AND FRANCE

56:39 - T-SHIRTS ARE. THANK YOU FOR

56:42 - WATCHING.