00:00 - The following program is sponsored in part by

00:03 - customer's bank.

00:13 - We're joined today by Sean Griffith the Democratic candidate for the third

00:16 - congressional district why are you seeking this position.

00:19 - So I decided to run because I had seen

00:24 - how

00:25 - our civil liberties these have been

00:27 - infringed upon by

00:28 - the current executive branch in a way that at least in my lifetime has never occurred.

00:33 - I am very concerned about.

00:35 - Our well being as Americans

00:38 - but in particularly

00:39 - in particular the well being of immigrants

00:42 - minorities people like that who

00:44 - I feel need advocacy

00:46 - I also of course care very much about the affordability crisis the wealth gap

00:51 - and so many other issues so

00:53 - after I had resigned my position

00:54 - with the commonwealth in December

00:56 - and I was contemplating what I was going to do next

00:59 - I realized that

01:01 - with the incumbent retiring and at that point already several democrats

01:05 - in the field that if.

01:06 - I

01:07 - Had an opportunity to make a difference

01:09 - and

01:10 - this might be the best opportunity so I

01:13 - in early January I decided to run because I want

01:15 - to protect American civil liberties I want to

01:19 - help work on

01:20 - bridging the affordability gap

01:22 - and.

01:23 - I wanted to

01:24 - take the opportunity to

01:26 - make sure that sort of progressive ideals remain in the political zeit geist.

01:31 - For the benefit of our statewide audience what should

01:33 - our viewers know about the third congressional district.

01:36 - So the third congressional district is comprised of

01:39 - approximately seven hundred and sixty thousand people

01:42 - a comb

01:43 - it could

01:43 - it encounter

01:44 - or it ink.

01:46 - It is most of south Philly and most of west Philly.

01:50 - From

01:51 - broad street two essentially Montgomery county or Delaware county

01:54 - and.

01:55 - There is demographically approximately half

01:59 - black and

02:01 - then

02:01 - the second

02:02 - plurality would be a wait and then certainly the many latinos certainly many.

02:08 - Mixed race people certainly many asians.

02:13 - The average voter for examples

02:15 - just thirty nine or forty so

02:17 - it's a slightly higher a demographic than

02:20 - economically speaking it is extremely diverse

02:22 - including rittenhouse is which is one of the

02:25 - highest income neighborhoods in the entire country

02:28 - but then also some very low

02:30 - income neighborhoods

02:31 - so we have

02:32 - racial diversity we have economic diversity we are also religious diversity

02:36 - of course I am Christian most people probably are but there are also

02:40 - many Buddhists many muslims many

02:42 - Jews many

02:43 - are

02:44 - unsure of many atheists so we are diverse in every way that

02:48 - diversity can be measured you are a tax

02:52 - by trade he mentioned he also worked for the commonwealth previously can you talk a

02:55 - little bit about the experience that you bring to this position and how that would

02:58 - translate into serving into congress

03:01 - yeah so I have

03:03 - over the past twenty years contemporaneously worked for both the commonwealth

03:07 - and also built a tax practice

03:09 - so.

03:10 - With the commonwealth I worked

03:12 - as an appeals referee which is sort of like an administrative law judge but

03:16 - dealing specifically with unemployment issues

03:18 - and contemporaneously I bill a tax practice that is

03:22 - in a neighborhood of roxboro which is a neighborhood in Philadelphia

03:26 - and.

03:27 - I sold that business a few years ago and I currently work for the new owner.

03:34 - The reason that those are all relevant is as an

03:36 - administrative law judge I'm very familiar with.

03:40 - How

03:42 - regulations are written and interpreted and

03:45 - I feel like that gives me the ability to if I am the legislator write better

03:49 - legislation that is easier to enforce also as an

03:53 - tourney.

03:55 - I feel that.

03:56 - I could

03:58 - also legislate in a way that is constitute certainly sound

04:01 - because right now progressive ideals if they were brought for the united states

04:05 - supreme court under Roberts would.

04:07 - Not have much sympathy

04:09 - but

04:09 - if I can write better laws they're more likely to survive a challenge

04:14 - so I think those kind of things help me

04:17 - to be a better legislate

04:19 - tour assuming I go to go to Washington to represent philadelphians

04:23 - and and also because I work in attacks where I have

04:26 - clients who range from very low income say

04:29 - twenty thousand dollars of earned income per year

04:32 - all the way to several million I have a very good idea how

04:36 - many Americans live

04:38 - and.

04:39 - I

04:40 - Have a whip in this first hand the struggles that see working families face

04:45 - and I have an ideas based on that

04:48 - first hand experience of

04:49 - how we can use particularly the tax code

04:53 - to help

04:54 - working.

04:56 - People

04:57 - and

04:58 - so those are some of the ways in my experience.

05:01 - Will be highly germane

05:03 - to the office of a

05:05 - house member.

05:08 - As we record this in April there are three other democrats seeking this position

05:12 - currently how do you distinguish yourself from your opponents.

05:15 - So.

05:17 - There are

05:18 - a couple of things that really distinguish me

05:21 - the first is that I am not a career politician

05:25 - to the extent that

05:26 - Philadelphia he has

05:29 - a.

05:29 - Job.

05:32 - Political family such as like the dailies in Chicago or the cuomo's in new York.

05:36 - The street family is as close

05:38 - as Philadelphia gets so.

05:41 - Sri street is sort of the.

05:45 - Heir to a political dynasty.

05:49 - Chris rabb who on hoot with whom I agree the most because he is

05:52 - a progressive

05:53 - he is also though a

05:54 - career politician having been in the state legislator for over a decade

05:58 - and then you know

05:59 - ala Stanford.

06:01 - She like me is not a politician but she at least worked for the bio administration

06:05 - so she has a lot.

06:08 - I mean so they are I'll have

06:09 - what I consider

06:11 - sort of the biases that go with career politicians

06:14 - and.

06:16 - I think that I do not

06:18 - think that my experience is based on talking to real people

06:21 - with real problems

06:22 - and real concerns and real aspirations and therefore

06:25 - I feel like I would be a better representative.

06:28 - By but

06:29 - the main difference is that I don't come as a politician the second main difference is.

06:34 - We are completely

06:36 - grassroots funding is either my money or my

06:38 - friends money or just local people whom I met who

06:41 - understand that I'm trying to advocate for progressive ideas.

06:45 - So whereas at least in the local media lately

06:48 - there have been reports about red boxing on

06:52 - websites you're not going to find any red boxes on ours.

06:56 - There's a what may be dark money but certainly

07:00 - outside money in Stanford's campaign that has been criticized.

07:05 - As of our fcc filing yesterday we had.

07:09 - Less than six thousand dollars excluding my

07:12 - contribution or

07:13 - less than seven thousand

07:14 - plus roughly two thousand for me or around nine thousand and the point is those are

07:19 - all just normal people who want to.

07:23 - Improve our city and improve our country.

07:26 - As we'd already mentioned you're running against.

07:29 - Two current elected sitting officials

07:32 - and then additionally another candidate who was a federal appointee how do you get

07:36 - attention or what do you do to make sure that

07:38 - that

07:39 - the public knows a little bit about you and your campaign.

07:42 - So there are

07:43 - a few venues

07:45 - that that

07:46 - we are trying to use as much as began

07:49 - one is

07:49 - like yours

07:50 - sort of public access or publicly funded media outlets.

07:55 - So.

07:55 - First thank you guys for inviting me and speaking to me

07:58 - and secondly

07:59 - several others.

08:01 - For example two nights ago we were at

08:03 - a gene

08:04 - called g town radio you then so again a sort of publicly funded media outlet

08:09 - we are trying to

08:11 - make sure we take advantage of every opportunity we have that

08:14 - for earned media secondly.

08:18 - I have the good fortune of having many friends and

08:21 - colleagues and

08:23 - clients throughout the city so I am asking

08:24 - everyone who knows me personally to spread the word

08:27 - and then to the extent that we have some funding we

08:30 - plan to do

08:32 - a fly airing of the

08:34 - city

08:35 - we cannot afford even a mailing but we have have

08:38 - dozens and hopefully even hundreds of volunteers

08:41 - who will help us at least deliver flyers

08:43 - to make up for the

08:45 - monetary deficit that we face

08:47 - as opposed to.

08:49 - As opposed to the other candidates

08:51 - if elected what would be your top priorities.

08:54 - So my three top priorities would be universal

08:57 - healthcare such as medicare for all my goal would be to.

09:01 - Co-sponsor with

09:03 - jaya Paul and senator Sanders

09:06 - to bring that back to the floor and hopefully this time get it voted on.

09:11 - My second priority would be increasing the minimum wage

09:15 - the fight for fifteen has been in the.

09:19 - Public discourse since.

09:21 - Bernie Sanders ran and twenty sixteen

09:23 - at this point it should be even higher I still adopt the union phrase of play for

09:28 - fifteen but really we should be advocating for maybe even twenty or something but at

09:32 - minimum we need to double our minimum wage

09:35 - and then

09:36 - the third thing that I'd be

09:38 - working on would

09:39 - be.

09:40 - Protecting Americans civil liberties which.

09:43 - Would be.

09:46 - Prosecuting where we can

09:48 - violators of civil liberties under either the department of homeland security

09:53 - and other

09:54 - executive agencies.

09:56 - Would be.

09:58 - Limiting funding to the executive branch particularly

10:01 - to dhs and particularly to the department of fence

10:04 - and

10:05 - then.

10:07 - If.

10:07 - If.

10:08 - If possible

10:09 - even legislating more protections but

10:12 - the main thing goal would be to protect the existing.

10:15 - Which are actual constitutional

10:17 - the fourth fifth first

10:18 - and fourteenth amendments so

10:20 - those are my

10:21 - three main focuses if I go to Washington next year

10:25 - I'd like to tackle a bit more specifics about those on your voice your support for

10:29 - universal healthcare how do you drive down the cost of

10:32 - healthcare and prescription drugs.

10:34 - So there are a couple of things one.

10:38 - It is

10:38 - almost.

10:40 - Offensive not

10:42 - you specifically but how

10:44 - media always wants to ask about

10:47 - cos

10:48 - whenever we talk about doing anything for Americans

10:51 - whenever there is never a discussion about

10:55 - the cost of fighting foreign wars

10:57 - and the fact that our defense budget has ballooned under trump mp

11:01 - but.

11:03 - The main first thing would be we stop killing people in other countries instead we

11:07 - focused our money on healing people in america.

11:11 - But

11:12 - also to.

11:15 - Here it's kind of funny he gets

11:16 - is right wing

11:17 - think groups.

11:19 - Who have shown that universal healthcare actually would be much cheaper because

11:24 - aside from the amount of money that goes to funding.

11:28 - Medicaid and medicare which are say government programs but also employers pay a ton

11:34 - of individual citizen ns pay it a lot

11:36 - so.

11:37 - If we just had something like medicare for all the actual costs would be less than

11:41 - what Americans are currently paying

11:44 - and then

11:45 - a third thing is that would

11:46 - give

11:47 - what started in the binding administration was drastically reduced under trump

11:51 - just things like

11:53 - negotiating prices for prescriptions for medicare and.

11:58 - Those kind of things would be so much cheaper than also the actual practice of

12:01 - medicine would be much cheaper because we'd have people doing preventive

12:05 - care

12:05 - as opposed to what often happens especially among the working poor where.

12:11 - No one gets

12:12 - preventive care and they just end up

12:14 - hospitalized in emergency room which is the most expensive way to treat

12:17 - illnesses.

12:19 - So those are a couple of the factors are social security

12:22 - and medicare sustainable for future generations.

12:26 - I believe so

12:27 - and I believe that the reason that

12:30 - there is talk that it isn't is

12:33 - probably right wing talking points.

12:36 - Since.

12:38 - The

12:39 - development of medicare and social security at this point eighty

12:43 - years ago or so for social security six years ago or so for medicare

12:47 - it has always been in the crosshairs of the right wing but.

12:52 - Unfortunately

12:53 - our government has always used this as security trust fund as

12:58 - a a fungible asset rather than actually earmarking it for.

13:03 - Social security

13:04 - and medicare

13:05 - so.

13:06 - The fact is.

13:08 - The general government

13:10 - meaning.

13:11 - The federal government at large

13:13 - needs to honor it's promissory notes it's written to the social security

13:15 - administration so that's one thing

13:17 - secondly.

13:19 - We have now more.

13:22 - People younger than me I'm gen x so the next generation

13:24 - is actually larger than the baby boom generation

13:27 - so we actually do have people more people paying into social security than

13:31 - we ever had previously

13:33 - and then

13:34 - we should also

13:37 - raise the cap on earned income.

13:39 - So that actually would drive in more revenue and in my personal opinion we should

13:43 - also add if like attacks to the long-term capital gains rate and they

13:47 - would

13:47 - ask me the qualified dividends rate

13:49 - because right now

13:51 - our tax code is regressive

13:54 - once you get past

13:56 - give or take a half a million dollars

13:58 - of income per year

14:00 - so the very wealthiest people pay way less in tax

14:04 - than even say the working poor who almost always pay at least their seven and a half

14:09 - percent fica taxes so what I would like to see as a fake attacks are

14:14 - added to the long-term capital gains rate

14:17 - and the ordinary dividend rate and that would also help.

14:22 - Secure the funding for social security medicare for

14:26 - all not just the rest of my lifetime but

14:28 - perhaps indefinitely.

14:30 - We had voiced her support for increasing the minimum wage with so many entry level

14:34 - positions paying several dollars an hour above what the current minimum wage is

14:38 - how do you determine what the appropriate reachable.

14:41 - So.

14:43 - I would like to see.

14:46 - Not just an initial raise at minimum

14:50 - I think it should be doubled and maybe even tripled at this point.

14:53 - Because again the minimum wage both in Pennsylvania and the

14:56 - country is seven point twenty five

14:59 - per hour.

15:01 - After that

15:03 - and this is something that the Pennsylvania

15:05 - how

15:05 - I believe house I don't think it's gone through the senate but I'm sure the democrats

15:09 - at least that argued it in the senate.

15:11 - Would be

15:11 - earmarking the Pennsylvania minimum wage to the cost of living.

15:16 - I actually think that is a good idea I don't

15:19 - know logistically how feasible it is but it would be something that would definitely

15:22 - be interested in once we raise a generally somehow linking it to

15:27 - the cost of living.

15:30 - Let's move and shift our prayers a little bit

15:32 - how do you balance the need for affordable

15:34 - era energy while protecting the environment.

15:40 - I think that something the

15:42 - biden administration had done extremely well it was.

15:47 - Demonstrating that

15:49 - renewable energy.

15:52 - Which is more environmentally sustainable than say fossil fuel energy.

15:57 - Can be.

15:59 - Economically productive

16:01 - we saw

16:02 - great growth

16:03 - although.

16:04 - Yo in the renewable energy under biden and of course

16:07 - some of it was because there were subsidies but

16:10 - also

16:11 - those emerging markets grew a lot and.

16:16 - If we also let you just other countries

16:18 - here

16:19 - particularly China

16:21 - have gone

16:22 - so done so well at using

16:24 - renewable energy that where

16:26 - their

16:26 - air is probably cleaner than america's air now even though

16:30 - a decade ago it was extraordinarily polluted

16:33 - so

16:34 - I think that we should look back back at what we as

16:37 - a country we were doing under the byte administration

16:41 - to.

16:42 - Help the renewable energy

16:43 - market grow and

16:45 - of course

16:46 - we saw that there was success and I believe that

16:49 - there's a lot more room for success in the future.

16:52 - Federal immigration policy has gained international attention and recent months

16:57 - would you do anything to change the current policy or how it's being administered.

17:02 - I would like to see our immigration policy.

17:08 - Stream line for the people who are

17:10 - asylum seekers so that they can get their

17:12 - court dates more quickly I would like to see.

17:17 - A.

17:20 - Return to.

17:23 - Much more open immigration I say open I mean a broader broader immigration

17:30 - before the nineteen sixties everything

17:32 - that

17:33 - we call immigration law now has only existed

17:36 - for about sixty years since the mid sixties

17:39 - prior to that

17:40 - it was much different and.

17:44 - So I'd like to see just more availability

17:47 - and

17:48 - and I would like to see people have just a faster cleaner track so

17:52 - you know if you're in america

17:54 - and you intend to stay

17:57 - or you'd like to stay

17:58 - you just have

17:59 - to say

18:01 - a number of years you don't committing crimes you don't.

18:04 - You pay your taxes whatever you need to do

18:07 - and I and you can

18:08 - become a permanent resident and then let's say another

18:12 - several years again you don't commit crimes you don't

18:15 - you pay your taxes everything.

18:18 - You become a citizen.

18:20 - The way we have created this.

18:24 - System of.

18:26 - Very slow access to courts very slow processing

18:29 - of many people will come on one type of visa maybe

18:33 - there are enough or j visa because our students.

18:37 - Then

18:38 - they want to stay so now they get a job now they get an equal maybe an h one b visa

18:43 - and then maybe that's going to expire or their

18:46 - field of expertise now is no longer in need

18:49 - and then they tried is something else and so

18:51 - they end up being here seven or eight years

18:53 - under three or four different visa statuses

18:56 - now they go apply to be a permanent resident

18:59 - and many times they'll succeed

19:02 - and now and let's say that and then is still

19:04 - another say five to ten years now they're a citizen

19:06 - meantime.

19:09 - Yeah they've always been law abiding people

19:11 - they've always been paying their taxes they've been

19:13 - the very kind of people who we would want in america they're smart they're diligent

19:18 - they respect their neighbors and they've had to jump through dozens of hoops

19:22 - paid

19:23 - thousands of dollars in legal fees

19:26 - and also

19:27 - incidentally the government has paid thousands

19:28 - of dollars and just administrative costs

19:30 - for them to do what.

19:33 - I would want them to be able to do anyway which is

19:36 - okay they're here they're working.

19:38 - They want to stay.

19:41 - It should there should

19:41 - be a much much easier path for people to do that.

19:46 - And then

19:46 - I'll get.

19:47 - That

19:48 - oh and I was just gonna say most of the political rhetoric.

19:53 - Particularly right wing political rhetoric is just plain false

19:56 - they'll say people come here illegally first of all

19:58 - coming to america and asking for asylum is legal immigration.

20:03 - Like

20:04 - period

20:05 - but the

20:05 - but they meaning

20:06 - right wing

20:07 - people

20:09 - often call that illegal immigration but it isn't

20:11 - to be like.

20:13 - Like coming in asking for asylum is legal period.

20:17 - So I I just want to make it clear that.

20:20 - A lot of the right wing talking points

20:22 - is just

20:23 - untrue

20:25 - and he said that we have undocumented people most of them come on jets very

20:29 - very

20:30 - likely the minority of undocumented immigrants.

20:34 - Cross the border on foot or or or in a car anything most of them come on jets

20:38 - and they just stay.

20:40 - After their visa has expired.

20:44 - What do you see as the greatest threat to the united states.

20:48 - I think there are a couple of threats.

20:51 - If you'd asked me say.

20:53 - In twenty twenty four

20:55 - I would have said the greatest threat to america is global warming.

20:59 - Because of increased hurricanes.

21:03 - And flooding and property damage making it

21:06 - hard to afford hard to

21:08 - ensure

21:09 - housing on the

21:09 - Gulf

21:10 - coast or in Florida things like that.

21:12 - Currently though

21:14 - I think that the greatest threat to america is the.

21:18 - Excessive authority that the.

21:23 - Actually

21:23 - while

21:24 - the excessive authority that the executive branch is.

21:28 - Abusing

21:29 - so.

21:30 - Right now are threats to civil liberties meaning ours being Americans threats to

21:35 - civil liberties I consider the greatest threat to america

21:39 - but.

21:41 - My.

21:42 - Hope is that

21:43 - that will be

21:45 - greatly reduced in a year assuming that the Democratic party takes

21:49 - the u s house

21:51 - and especially if we manage to take both us house and us senate

21:55 - and then hopefully in two thousand and twenty eight will have an entirely different

21:58 - executive Eric schmidt twenty twenty nine based on twenty twenty eight election.

22:02 - So even though I do think that is our greatest existential threat.

22:06 - I'm hoping it will be largely

22:09 - ameliorated within the next three years

22:12 - but the threat of global warming

22:14 - the fact that we

22:16 - have.

22:18 - Flooding dude like I said hurricanes that we have

22:20 - changes in crop cycles because of either increased desertification or

22:26 - in other parts of the country increase flooding.

22:30 - We we

22:31 - I think our biggest threat overall is probably

22:33 - the threat of the environmental impact of of of global climate change.

22:39 - If successfully

22:40 - in a thread or a challenge add tears signatures and were able to remain on the ballot

22:45 - what did you take from that experience.

22:48 - I will also update you as of yesterday I also wanted the Pennsylvania supreme court.

22:52 - I dunno if you knew that but yes I did win two weeks ago at the.

22:57 - Commonwealth court

22:59 - a lot of credit goes to my friends who supported me a lot

23:02 - of volunteer work I had spent over one hundred hours in

23:05 - prep and my my friends spent.

23:08 - Just as much time

23:09 - and it was all volunteer work so I get a lot of credit to them.

23:14 - It has demonstrated to me that.

23:17 - The Democratic party establishment because I have it on good authority

23:21 - not necessarily the kind that would hold up in court but certainly good enough

23:23 - authority that I'm willing to say

23:25 - publicly

23:26 - that the entire.

23:28 - Attack on me and against Allah Stanford and three other candidates and

23:33 - with tune they succeeded were all funded by the

23:35 - Democratic city party or sweet city committee

23:38 - and.

23:40 - I'm sure that you know and certainly any listeners can look up

23:44 - that there that same committee has endorsed

23:45 - one of the candidates who's still in the race

23:48 - but what is demonstrates to me is that they are much

23:51 - more interested in making sure that progressive voices.

23:55 - Are silenced than they are concerned about.

24:00 - The public having an opportunity to

24:02 - exercise their

24:04 - constitutional right to vote for their preferred candidate.

24:08 - How do you get

24:09 - the

24:10 - scar

24:11 - and that that is my non editorial because

24:13 - I I endured a lot of personal insults and

24:16 - the council for the Democratic city committee

24:19 - outright slander one of my very good friends and several my bunk

24:22 - and insult several volunteers

24:24 - so aside from the personal they

24:26 - sort of the big picture is

24:28 - they are willing to spend time and resources make sure voters I don't get the

24:32 - opportunity to vote for the candidates

24:33 - on sorry go ahead and ask your question I'm sorry to interrupt you or perhaps a

24:36 - follow up to that how do you get your message out to voters.

24:39 - So I would like to kind of harken back to what I mentioned a few minutes ago

24:43 - I am very appreciative of

24:46 - the media coverage that we bigot and I'm trying to take a

24:49 - take every opportunity offered so again thank

24:51 - you guys and a handful of other people have.

24:54 - Paid attention to the campaign

24:56 - we are.

24:57 - Doing our best to spread the word of mouth

25:00 - which is again volunteer work because is

25:02 - based on

25:03 - my friends my colleagues my coworkers my clients who all believe in me

25:08 - and then the third thing we will try to at least get

25:12 - one flyer in campaign.

25:15 - Before the end of the year before

25:17 - late late April around the time that.

25:20 - Mail in ballots are being

25:22 - sent.

25:23 - Why would you like letters to elect you to serve the third congressional district.

25:27 - I think that

25:28 - they.

25:30 - Think the voters should vote for me because.

25:33 - I am the person in the race who has.

25:38 - Decided to run

25:40 - purely because I care about

25:42 - Philadelphia and I care about america in general

25:45 - I decided to run because I

25:48 - want to protect us from.

25:52 - At.

25:52 - A.

25:53 - An executive branch that is running amok

25:55 - protect us from environmental damage protect us from

25:59 - the increasing wealth gap and the

26:01 - us.

26:04 - Authority that

26:05 - is vested in the oligarchy class.

26:09 - I don't particularly care about having any

26:11 - specific title I'm not doing it for any self aggrandizement

26:15 - so I am the

26:17 - least to my knowledge the only person here who's doing it.

26:21 - For purely.

26:23 - The.

26:25 - Altruistic

26:26 - motivations.

26:28 - And secondly

26:29 - just as a matter of.

26:33 - Prag matic

26:34 - a sort of pragmatic sense of a

26:36 - Buddha wants to know who can get things done.

26:39 - Like I said we have raised

26:41 - as of march thirty first only around seven

26:43 - thousand plus another roughly two thousand from me.

26:47 - Compared to my opponents all of whom have several hundred

26:51 - thousand dollars and at least in the case of Stanford.

26:55 - Millions of dollars backing

26:57 - all of them were in the race

26:58 - nearly a year ago

27:00 - whereas I've been in the race for at this point

27:03 - a little over three months in in a manner of speaking

27:06 - in that short amount of time with almost no money

27:09 - I have managed to almost catch up meaning

27:11 - I'm still on the ballot.

27:14 - And I'm appearing at every

27:16 - event that they are appearing now so

27:18 - if people want to know who can get the job done.

27:21 - That is also me.

27:23 - Sean Griffith the same thing that Democratic nomination for the third congressional

27:26 - district thank you for joining us

27:28 - hey I appreciate you having an opportunity are

27:29 - taking the opportunity to talk to me thank you.

27:35 - Hmm.

27:39 - Hmm.

27:51 - Hmm.

27:56 - The you that you're welcome to link to.

27:58 - Okay I appreciate it.