00:00 - GOOD AFTERNOON.

00:02 - >>THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

00:04 - SET THE STAGE. THE GOVERNOR IS

00:06 - PROPOSING A TOTAL GENERAL FUND

00:08 - SPENDING AMOUNT OF 50.2 MILLION

00:12 - FOR THE JUDICIARY IN THIS

00:12 - CURRENT BUDGET PROPOSAL FOR

00:16 - FISCAL YEAR 2026. 2027 AND

00:17 - INCREASE OF 46.7 MILLION OR

00:20 - ABOUT 10.3% OVER THE CURRENT

00:21 - FISCAL YEAR. AND IT SHOULD ALSO

00:24 - BE NOTED THAT YOU ALSO RECEIVE

00:27 - SOME REVENUE FROM COURT FEES.

00:29 - AND WITH THAT, WE CAN MOVE

00:29 - FORWARD WITH THE QUESTIONS.

00:32 - I THINK YOU.

00:36 - BEFORE WE START MEMBERS, LET'S

00:36 - MAKE SURE OUR QUESTIONS ARE.

00:40 - >>BUDGETARY, ARE YOU THE POLICY

00:43 - BASELESS? REMEMBER THAT?

00:44 - THE JUSTICES WILL NOT BE ABLE

00:47 - TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT CASES

00:48 - I MIGHT BE BEFORE THEM OR TO

00:50 - OPINE ON HOW THEY FEEL ON

00:55 - DIFFERENT. ISSUES THAT COULD

00:57 - COME BEFORE THEM AS MUCH AS WE

00:57 - MAY LIKE TO KNOW THOSE ANSWERS.

01:01 - THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER

01:03 - THOSE TYPE OF QUESTIONS THIS

01:08 - AFTERNOON WANT TO REMIND

01:09 - EVERYONE THAT OUR TIME KEEPER

01:09 - IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TABLE.

01:13 - AND WHEN I REMEMBER START, THEY

01:17 - WILL HAVE 5 MINUTES TO ASK

01:19 - QUESTIONS. THE LIGHT WILL TURN

01:21 - GREEN. THEN THERE WILL BE 30

01:25 - SECONDS. THAT LIGHT WILL TURN

01:27 - YELLOW AND THEN AT THE RED

01:27 - LIGHT WE EXIT YOU WOULD

01:30 - CONCLUDE. AND WITH YOUR

01:33 - COMMENTS.

01:38 - ALL RIGHT, BEFORE WE IT'S KIND

01:41 - OF WEIRD. BUT BEFORE WE START,

01:41 - WE GAVE THE JUSTICES AND STAFF

01:42 - STANCE WITH THIS WHERE YOU IT.

01:49 - DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT THE

01:50 - TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE

01:50 - IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH

01:53 - SO HELP YOU GOD.

01:58 - JUST COULD BE JUST AS PROPS.

02:01 - IF YOU WANTED TO DO ANY

02:03 - INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS. BUT ALSO

02:04 - PLEASE, ANY OTHER JURISDICTION

02:05 - HAVE WHAT YOU TODAY'S YOU, IF

02:06 - YOU COULD PLEASE INTRODUCED HIM

02:09 - TO THE COMMITTEE AS WELL.

02:12 - FIRST AND FOREMOST, GOOD

02:15 - AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. CHAIRMAN

02:15 - HARRISON IS TRUE. THE JUDICIARY

02:17 - CHAIRMAN'S RIGS IN KAUFMAN AND

02:19 - MEMBERS OF THE APPROPRIATION

02:19 - COMMITTEE.

02:20 - >>THANK YOU FOR THIS

02:22 - OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO APPEAR

02:23 - TODAY. AS YOU KEVIN DAUGHERTY

02:27 - AND BESIDE ME AS MY COLLEAGUE

02:29 - JUSTICE KEVIN BROBSON AND THE

02:30 - COURT ADMINISTRATOR ANDREA TO

02:33 - MONT.

02:36 - FIRST, WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE

02:37 - THE EXPEDITIOUS BIPARTISAN.

02:43 - PASSAGE OF HOUSE BILL 331.

02:48 - IT'S INCREDIBLE. NEEDED

02:48 - MODIFICATION TO OUR JUDICIAL

02:50 - COMPUTER SYSTEM. A CAP ON THE

02:52 - FORMULA WAS FOR THIS YEAR AS

02:54 - WELL AS THE NEXT 2 FISCAL

02:55 - YEARS. THIS CHANGE WILL DELIVER

02:56 - AN ADDITIONAL MONIES OFFSET THE

02:59 - STEADY DECLINE, AN ACCOUNT

03:02 - REVENUES SINCE 2008.

03:04 - THIS ALIGNS WITH THE

03:06 - RECOMMENDATIONS BY YOUR CREATED

03:08 - JCS FINANCIAL AUDIT COMMITTEE

03:11 - BACK INTO

03:13 - 2022. WITH SPECIFICALLY REQUEST

03:14 - A QUOTE, UNQUOTE, TO ENSURE

03:15 - PREDICTABLE FUNDING TO SUPPORT

03:16 - THE SYSTEMS CONTINUED

03:18 - OPERATION.

03:22 - I'D LIKE TO SHARE.

03:24 - FROM OUR HEART IS SPECIAL.

03:25 - THANK YOU TO CHAIRMAN BREAKS

03:26 - FOR OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT

03:27 - AND ALL THE MEMBERS FOR YOUR

03:29 - UNANIMOUS SUPPORT OF THE

03:32 - SUBSEQUENT PASSAGE. I'M HERE

03:33 - TODAY. BECAUSE WE NEED YOUR

03:36 - HELP.

03:38 - THE JUDICIARY, THE JUDICIARY ON

03:41 - THE SUPREME COURT. WE HAVE 3

03:45 - REVENUE COMPONENT. THERE IS A

03:46 - GENERAL FUND LIE AND WE HAVE

03:51 - ACT. 49, WHICH HAS BEEN CREATED

03:52 - THROUGH FEES AND COSTS AND

03:55 - FINES. THE SUPPLEMENT.

03:58 - FILLING IN SHORTAGES ON OUR

04:00 - GENERAL FUND. AND THEN WE HAVE

04:02 - THE EXCLUSIVE JUVENILE COMPUTER

04:05 - SYSTEM ACCOUNT, WHICH IS

04:10 - STATUTORY FINES AND FEES,

04:10 - SPECIFICALLY USED EXCLUSIVELY

04:13 - FOR OUR COMPUTERS.

04:15 - YOUR ACT, ONE OF 2026 TO 7.5

04:18 - MILLION DOLLARS SUPPLEMENT WENT

04:19 - TO THAT TO THAT THAT COMPUTER

04:21 - SYSTEM.

04:23 - WOULD REMAIN OTHERWISE. WE'RE

04:23 - POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT A LOSS

04:30 - OF OVER A $350,000, A 350,000

04:31 - PEOPLE USING OUR INFORMATION.

04:33 - WAS THAT THE CORRECT?

04:34 - >>IT'S IT'S IT'S ABOUT JUSTICE.

04:37 - YES, OKAY.

04:40 - HERE'S OUR CONCERN.

04:42 - OUR GENERAL APPROACH, OUR

04:45 - GENERAL APPROPRIATION AMOUNT

04:45 - HAS BEEN AUGMENTED BY AQUA

04:47 - TEEN, 9 FUNDS FOR QUITE A

04:48 - SUBSTANTIAL PERIOD OF TIME.

04:52 - WHILE ACT. 89 WAS ATTENDANT

04:53 - HAS BEEN USED TO SUPPLEMENT THE

04:55 - GENERAL FUNDING OF THE JUDICIAL

04:57 - BRANCH, THE CAMP BALANCE AT THE

04:59 - END OF 2024, 25 WAS ONLY

05:02 - 17 MILLION DOLLARS.

05:05 - IT'S ESTIMATED THAT THE AMOUNT

05:06 - WILL BE 8.2 MILLION COME JUNE,

05:09 - 30TH 2026.

05:10 - THE REASON FOR THIS MARKED

05:12 - DECREASE IS SIMPLE. THE

05:14 - JUDICIAL BRANCHES. IF WE DO

05:19 - NOT RECEIVE REQUESTED STATE

05:19 - APPROPRIATION, THE MORE WE NEED

05:22 - TO LIE ON ACT. 40 KNOT.

05:24 - IS THE ACT. 49 POUNDS DECREASES

05:25 - IT LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS

05:28 - THAT CAN BE APPLIED. THIS

05:31 - CONTINUED USE OF AT 49 HAS A

05:32 - DETRIMENTAL HUMBLING EFFECT ON

05:35 - OUR

05:36 - SUBSEQUENT BUDGET REQUIRING

05:37 - HIGHER STATE FUNDING REQUEST

05:38 - TO ADDRESS SIGNIFICANT COST

05:40 - DRIVERS. WHICH COULD BE OUR

05:42 - STATUTORY COLORS, INCREASING

05:46 - HEALTH CARE COSTS, BUDGET, THE

05:48 - DEFICITS AND OBVIOUSLY IT

05:48 - CONTINUED DECREASE OF ACT.

05:51 - 49.

05:52 - WELL, THIS IS A PROBLEM FOR

05:53 - THE ENTIRETY OF THE JUDICIARY,

05:56 - THE JUDICIAL BUDGET. IT'S

05:57 - ESPECIALLY ACUTE AT THOSE

06:00 - LEVELS MOST IMPACTFUL, YOUR

06:02 - CONSTITUENTS. OUR QUICK, I WORK

06:04 - COUNTY BASE, COMMON PLEAS,

06:04 - COURT MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT

06:07 - JUDGES. I HAVE TO TELL YOU,

06:11 - COURT OPERATION JASPER

06:12 - CPN DJ. EAT UP. APPROXIMATELY

06:16 - 75% OF OUR BUDGET. WE TAKE OUR

06:17 - ROLE SERIOUSLY FOR THAT, WHICH

06:20 - WE HAVE. AND THAT IS

06:21 - PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING

06:22 - ABOUT MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT

06:25 - JUDGES.

06:26 - EVERY 10 YEARS WE REVIEW

06:28 - CURRENT AND FUTURE DIDN'T SHOW

06:30 - ME. THIS ENSURES EACH JUDICIAL

06:31 - DISTRICT HAS THE CORRECT NUMBER

06:33 - OF JUDGES MANAGE CASES AND

06:34 - PROVIDE OUR ACCESS TO JUDGE.

06:37 - TO JUSTICE. AS WE SIT HERE

06:40 - TODAY, THERE ARE CURRENT

06:41 - CURRENTLY 11 VACANCIES ON THE

06:43 - END. THE JAYS. THIS PROCESS

06:47 - ALLOWS THE COURT COMPETENTLY

06:49 - AND EFFICIENTLY MEET THE NEEDS

06:51 - OF WHETHER WE ARE

06:52 - REESTABLISHING REALIGNING AND

06:53 - WHEN APPROPRIATE TO APPROPRIATE

06:54 - ELIMINATING DISTRICT SEATS.

06:57 - I'M A SHARE WITH YOU. WE ON THE

07:00 - SUPREME COURT. YOU'RE NOT FIND

07:03 - IT HOPEFUL WHEN WE HAVE TO

07:04 - REMOVE JUDGES, MAGISTERIAL

07:06 - DISTRICT COURTS, WHICH REALLY

07:09 - FOR MANY OF OUR RURAL COUNTIES,

07:10 - IT'S THE INITIAL AND FIRST

07:10 - CONTACT WITH THE JUDICIAL

07:15 - SYSTEM. OUR COMMON PLEAS COURT

07:15 - COMPLIMENT. THAT'S STRICTLY A

07:18 - LEGISLATIVE FUNCTION AND THE

07:19 - JUDICIARY RESPECTS. YOUR

07:22 - PREROGATIVE. I SHARE WITH YOU.

07:28 - SINCE 2017, 2 LEGISLATIVE

07:28 - ENACTMENT HAVE MADE JUDGESHIPS.

07:33 - THOSE NEW POSITIONS REPRESENT

07:37 - A 6.5 MILLION AND YOU WILL A

07:37 - 6.5 MILLION DOLLAR ANNUAL

07:40 - IMPACT ON OUR BUDGET. BECAUSE

07:43 - OF OUR CONCERN.

07:44 - IS THAT FOR THE LATE WE HAD

07:46 - A 5 FISCAL YEARS FOLLOWED THE

07:49 - 2017 ENACTMENT, THE CP LINE

07:52 - WAS FLAT FUNDING. FOR EXAMPLE,

07:55 - THIS YEAR.

07:56 - 9 NEW COMMON PLEAS, COURT

07:57 - JUDGES TOOK SEATS FOR A FULL

07:59 - TERM.

08:00 - OUR COMMON PLEAS COURT LINE

08:04 - ITEM WAS FUNDED AT 6.7 MILLION

08:04 - BELOW THE AMOUNT TO FULLY FUND

08:07 - THE COMPLIMENT. WE'RE ASKING

08:12 - YOU. OUR ARTICLE 3 RATHER

08:12 - BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT TO ENSURE

08:15 - THAT THE FULL AMOUNT AND FAIR

08:17 - FUNDING FOR ARTICLE 5 US THE

08:18 - COMMON PLEAS MAGISTERIAL

08:19 - DISTRICT JUDGE IS LYING ARE

08:22 - MET. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE

08:23 - AMOUNT OF UNFUNDED POSITIONS.

08:27 - WHAT THAT EQUALS AS CLOSE TO.

08:27 - 25 COMMON PLEAS, COURT JUDGES.

08:34 - INCLUDING 7 AND THE JAYS.

08:39 - ARE NOT PROGRAM. 90% OF OUR

08:43 - COST TO PERSONNEL. WE LIKE YOU

08:46 - FUNDED WITH LESS THAN ONE

08:47 - PERCENT. THE ENTIRE STATE

08:49 - BUDGET.

08:53 - WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOOD

08:54 - STEWARDS OF THE THE PUBLIC'S

09:00 - BEST. WHEN WE CAN. WE TRIED TO

09:00 - SAVE AS MUCH MONEY FOR THE

09:01 - TAXPAYER AND FOR THE

09:04 - COMMONWEALTH. FOR EXAMPLE.

09:05 - IN OUR OFFICE OF CHILDREN AND

09:06 - FAMILY. THE COURT CREATED BY

09:07 - FORMER CHIEF JUSTICE MAX BAER.

09:10 - WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE

09:12 - CHILD WELFARE PLACE 11,000 OVER

09:16 - THE LAST. THE TEEN YEARS.

09:17 - WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COSTS WERE

09:18 - NOT. I CANNOT SAY THAT WE'RE

09:20 - SAVING, BUT I CAN SAY AS A

09:22 - RESULT OF COURT INVOLVEMENT

09:24 - AND OUR SWEAT EQUITY WE SAVED

09:28 - OR I SHOULD SAY, OUR CHILD

09:29 - WELFARE BUDGET WOULD HAVE

09:30 - INCREASED IN ADDITIONAL

09:31 - 48 MILLION DOLLARS. ITS AN

09:32 - INTANGIBLE. IT'S THE RIGHT

09:34 - THING TO DO. PROTECTING OUR

09:35 - MOST AT-RISK AND VULNERABLE

09:39 - CHILDREN. BUT IT'S ALSO AN

09:39 - INDICATION OF THE SUPREME COURT

09:43 - AN HOUR. I URGE YOU TO SHERRY

09:45 - WORKING HAND IN GLOVE WITH YOU

09:47 - WITH WHAT HE'S BEEN GIVEN TO US

09:47 - TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THE

09:50 - BEST THAT WE CAN.

09:54 - WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CONTINUE A

09:57 - FUNCTION LIKE THIS.

10:01 - TO MORE ACCURATELY. A LINE AT

10:02 - 49 WITH THE ACTUAL REVENUE THAT

10:05 - WE ARE RECEIVING. I'M HERE

10:08 - TODAY TO RESPECTFULLY SEEK

10:09 - 64 MILLION DOLLARS IN

10:11 - ADDITIONAL STATE FUNDS, WHICH

10:13 - INCLUDES FULL JUDICIAL

10:14 - COMPLIMENT AND OTHER NECESSARY

10:18 - OPERATIONAL INCREASES SUCH AS

10:18 - CYBERSECURITY AND THE USE OF

10:21 - OUR JANE.

10:23 - THE JUDICIARY ALSO RESPECTFULLY

10:25 - REQUESTS. YOU CONSIDER

10:27 - REPEALING THE STATUTORY

10:28 - PROVISION DIVERTING 15 MILLION

10:29 - DOLLARS FROM OUR JACE. YES, ON

10:33 - THE CURRENT SUSPENSION.

10:34 - SPEIER ON JUNE 20 TO 30 2026.

10:40 - OUR CONCERN. IS THAT IT IF WE

10:45 - ARE TO CONTINUE. HELPING.

10:48 - SISTER PARTS OF GOVERNMENT THAT

10:49 - BEING THE EXECTIVE, THE NEW IN

10:50 - THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. MORE SO

10:52 - THE GOOD CITIZENS OF THE

10:52 - COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA.

10:56 - WE NEED YOU TO HELP SUPPORT

10:59 - US EFFICIENTLY.

11:00 - OUR CONCERN IS AND I'VE LISTEN

11:01 - TO SOME OTHER INDIVIDUALS

11:04 - TESTIFIED.

11:04 - WHEN YOU LOOK AT OFFICES THAT

11:07 - ARE PROTECTING THE PUBLIC.

11:08 - AND WERE MAKE TRYING TO MAKE

11:09 - SURE THAT OUR CHILDREN AND OUR

11:11 - FAMILY. IN LIVE PEACEFULLY IN

11:14 - PENNSYLVANIA.

11:17 - WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY NEED

11:17 - FUNCTIONS. THEY NEED FUNDING TO

11:20 - MAINTAIN THEIR PROGRAM. WHAT

11:21 - LAW ENFORCEMENT IS NO GOOD.

11:23 - IF WE DON'T HAVE A COURT

11:26 - SYSTEM. BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE

11:27 - CAN SEPARATE THE GOOD ONE WHO

11:30 - GOT CAUGHT UP IN A BAD WAY BY

11:31 - PUTTING THE BAD PERSON AWAY AND

11:32 - NEVER APOLOGIZING FOR EITHER.

11:36 - I SIT HERE, I ASK YOU AS MY

11:39 - COLLEAGUES. PLEASE CONSIDER

11:41 - THE JUDICIARY AS YOUR FRIEND.

11:44 - IN PART. WE ARE PRESENT

11:46 - QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. JUSTICE.

11:52 - AND LET'S GO DIRECTLY TO

11:55 - REPRESENTATIVE FLEMING.

11:58 - >>THANK YOU. JUSTICE DAUGHERTY

12:01 - JUST ROBSON. ANDREA, IT'S

12:04 - WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOU HERE.

12:06 - MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE

12:09 - AROUND THIS SCHEDULE OF THE

12:12 - COURT IN TERMS OF YOUR DECISION

12:16 - MAKING NERDS LIKE ME WHO FOLLOW

12:18 - THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT

12:21 - UNDERSTAND THAT THE COURT HAS

12:25 - 2 SEASONS, ESSENTIALLY EVERY

12:25 - YEAR WHERE THEY HEAR ORAL

12:26 - DECIDE WHAT CASES THEY WILL

12:29 - HEAR IN THAT PARTICULAR

12:29 - SESSION. AND THEN THEY RULE.

12:33 - AT THE END OF THAT SESSION.

12:34 - USUALLY IN JULY OR DECEMBER

12:37 - OF THEIR SEPARATE ORAL

12:38 - ARGUMENTS. SESSIONS AND I WAS

12:41 - WONDERING WHAT THE SCHEDULE

12:44 - IS. 4 THE PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME

12:47 - COURT.

12:48 - YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE ARE

12:49 - CASES THAT YOU HEAR IN PRIOR

12:51 - YEARS THAT YOU CAN STILL RULE

12:51 - ON. AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO

12:54 - GET A SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, ON

12:55 - AVERAGE, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE

12:56 - BEFORE YOU HEAR ORAL ARGUMENTS

12:59 - ON A CASE UNTIL YOU FINALLY

13:03 - MAKE A RULING AS A BODY.

13:07 - WELL, WE HAVE INTERNAL

13:07 - OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT WE

13:09 - TRIED TO APPLY. BUT THE REALITY

13:10 - IS.

13:12 - >>BUT THERE ARE 7 OF US.

13:12 - AND WHAT HAPPENS IS EACH OF US

13:15 - WILL COME BACK AFTER WE HAVE

13:16 - MET AFTER 8, 8, 8, SESSION.

13:20 - WE HAVE DECIDED WHO MAY MAKE A

13:21 - MAJORITY OR WHO MAY BE IN THE

13:23 - DISSENT.

13:24 - WHAT REALLY HAPPENS IS THEN WE

13:26 - GO BACK TO OUR INDIVIDUAL

13:27 - CHAMBERS AND WE START CRAFTING

13:30 - OUR OWN RIGHT NOW. WE WAIT TO

13:32 - SEE THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SIGNED

13:32 - BY THE CHIEF JUSTICE, THE

13:34 - MAJORITY OPINION. AND WE WAIT

13:35 - TO SEE IF WE AGREE WITH THAT.

13:40 - SO THE PROCESS OF WRITING IN

13:40 - READING AND WRITING AND

13:43 - AMENDING IN RIGHT? BECAUSE I

13:44 - SHARE WITH YOU. IF YOU ARE THE

13:46 - AUTHOR OF AN OPINION IN THE

13:48 - DISSENT, I WRITE THAT THE

13:49 - SCENT, YOU'RE GOING TO RESPOND

13:49 - TO MY DESCENT. NOW. I HAVE TO

13:52 - RESPOND TO YOUR AMENDMENT.

13:53 - DEPENDING UPON THE EXTENT OF

13:54 - THAT ISSUE AND THE SUBSTANCE OF

13:57 - THAT ISSUE.

13:58 - IT COULD TAKE ANYWHERE FROM

14:01 - WHICH THE STATE JUSTICE.

14:05 - EVERY CASE, EVERY CASE IS IS IS

14:06 - UNIQUE SHORT, MULTIPLE CASES

14:06 - INVOLVING MULTIPLE ISSUES ARE

14:10 - MORE DIFFICULT.

14:11 - >>CERTAINLY I THINK THE

14:12 - JUSTICES ON THE COURT STRIVE

14:13 - TO GET OPINIONS OUT AS QUICKLY

14:15 - AS POSSIBLE AFTER SUBMISSION.

14:17 - WHAT I DEFINE A SUBMISSION IS

14:18 - THE PROPER ORAL ARGUMENT OR

14:19 - AFTER WE'VE DECIDED WE'RE NOT

14:20 - GOING TO HAVE ORAL ARGUMENT

14:23 - >>I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US

14:26 - TO GET IT RIGHT. NOT JUST GET

14:27 - IT FAST SHORE AND AND I CAN

14:28 - TELL YOU OPERATING ANY

14:30 - ENTERPRISE WITH 7 CEOS CAN BE

14:32 - THANKS TO BE CHALLENGING.

14:32 - SOMETIMES WE DO THE BEST WE

14:35 - CAN.

14:36 - >>YEAH, AND I I UNDERSTAND THE

14:39 - NATURE YOU KNOW, THE DIFFICULTY

14:40 - ESPECIALLY AS YOU SAID IT, THE

14:44 - MORE COMPLEX, THE ISSUE YOU

14:45 - KNOW, THE MORE THE MORE TIME IT

14:48 - MAY TAKE. BUT IT JUST I JUST

14:48 - WANTED TO ASK THAT AND MAKE

14:50 - THAT CONTRAST BETWEEN LIKE,

14:52 - YOU KNOW, FOLKS LIKE ME WHO SEE

14:53 - THE WAY THE UNITED STATES

14:54 - SUPREME COURT OPERATES WHERE

14:55 - IT'S LIKE, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM,

14:59 - ONE SESSION. ALL YOUR ORAL

14:59 - ARGUMENTS, ALL YOUR CASES, ALL

15:02 - YOUR DECISIONS AS OPPOSED TO

15:02 - THE WAY THAT THE PENNSYLVANIA

15:04 - SUPREME COURT OPERATES. I WILL

15:05 - HAVE TO SAY, I DO HAVE TO SAY

15:07 - IN CLOSING THAT I HAVE SEEN

15:09 - THE COURT OPERATE IN PERSON IN

15:12 - ORAL ARGUMENTS ON A COUPLE OF

15:14 - OCCASIONS. IT IS RATHER

15:15 - IMPRESSIVE. SO I WANT TO THANK

15:16 - YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. THANK YOU

15:18 - FOR HOW YOU SERVE THIS

15:19 - COMMONWEALTH. THANK YOU SO

15:20 - MUCH, MISTER CHAIRMAN. THANK

15:20 - YOU. THANK YOU. THANK THE

15:21 - GENTLEMAN. REPRESENTATIVE

15:23 - NELSON.

15:24 - THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN,

15:25 - WELCOME JUSTICE IS GREAT TO SEE

15:28 - YOU HERE AGAIN.

15:29 - I WANTED TO START OUR LINE OF

15:32 - QUESTIONING IN THE AREA OF WHAT

15:34 - WE USED TO CALL PROBLEM SOLVING

15:35 - COURTS OR NOW TREATMENT COURTS

15:38 - POTENTIALLY

15:41 - EARLIER IN YOUR OPENING

15:42 - REMARKS, YOU TALKED ABOUT

15:42 - ADDITIONAL FUNDING OR THE NEED

15:43 - FOR FUNDING. AND IN THE BROADER

15:46 - PICTURE

15:48 - WHEN WE'VE DISCUSS THESE

15:49 - TREATMENT COURTS NOW AND THAT'S

15:54 - DRUG COURTS, MENTAL HEALTH

15:56 - COURTS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,

15:56 - VETERANS COURTS. THEY'VE BEEN

16:00 - VERY SUCCESSFUL IN

16:01 - THE COUNTIES. YOUR I THINK THIS

16:02 - BUDGET CALLS FOR AN INCREASE

16:06 - IN FUNDING ABOUT $77,000.

16:07 - NOT A WHOLE LOT. ABOUT 5% FOR

16:11 - THAT LINE ITEM. CAN YOU TOUCH

16:14 - ON YOUR PERSPECTIVE OF THESE

16:15 - COURTS, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE

16:16 - PERFORMANCE STANDARDS TO

16:17 - MEASURE HOW EFFECTIVE THEY ARE?

16:22 - I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT

16:23 - TREATMENT COURTS FOR AS LONG

16:25 - AS YOU LET ME DO. AND THESE ARE

16:26 - INCREDIBLE PROGRAMS RUNNING

16:29 - OUR COUNTIES.

16:29 - >>THAT ARE NOT JUST CHANGING

16:30 - LIVES, BUT THEY'RE LITERALLY

16:32 - SAVING LIVES. SO I'M SO

16:33 - APPRECIATIVE OF THE JUDGES THAT

16:37 - ARE SPENDING THEIR TIME TO WORK

16:38 - IN OUR DRUG AND ALCOHOL DUI

16:39 - COURTS, MENTAL HEALTH COURTS,

16:40 - BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COURT.

16:40 - LET'S NOT. LET'S ALSO NOT

16:42 - FORGET ABOUT OUR VETERANS

16:43 - COURTS THAT ARE DOING SO MUCH

16:44 - TO HELP THE MEN AND WOMEN HAVE

16:45 - SERVED OUR COUNTRY IN PART OF

16:48 - THE SOUTH IN HARM'S WAY.

16:48 - THESE PROVIDE AN AMAZING SECOND

16:50 - CHANCE OPPORTUNITY. AND IN

16:52 - TERMS OF EFFICACY, I KNOW THAT

16:57 - WE HAVE HAD.

16:57 - >>AND A YEAR-OVER-YEAR

16:58 - IMPROVEMENT OF GRADUATION RATES

17:00 - FROM OUR COURTS.

17:01 - >>I THINK THE EURO, YOUR

17:02 - YEAR-OVER-YEAR IMPROVEMENT FROM

17:05 - 2020 FOR 2025. WAS ABOUT 4%.

17:07 - SO WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT 4%

17:07 - TALK ABOUT GRADUATION RATES.

17:09 - WE'RE TALK ABOUT GRADUATION

17:13 - RATES BETWEEN 60 AND 80% THAT

17:13 - 60 80% OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE

17:15 - NOT GOING TO BE INCARCERATED.

17:17 - SO THE PROGRAMS ARE DOING A

17:19 - MARVELOUS THING. WE JUST

17:19 - LAUNCHED OUR CERTIFICATION

17:23 - PROGRAMS THIS YEAR. WE HAVE

17:23 - A TREE MCCOURT CHAMPION COURTS

17:27 - THAT HAVE THIS STOOD UP AS PART

17:28 - OF OUR CERTIFICATION FOR DRUG

17:29 - AND DUI COURTS. HAPPY TO TALK

17:30 - ABOUT AND DO A SHOUT-OUT.

17:32 - JUDGE BOYLAN IN BUCKS COUNTY.

17:34 - THAT GUY SOUNDS ARE IN BERKS

17:36 - COUNTY, JUDGE O'NEILL IN

17:37 - MONTGOMERY COUNTY AND JUDGE

17:38 - ROSS KING WAS THERE IN COUNTY

17:39 - FOR STEPPING UP AND BEING OUR

17:42 - CHAMPION COURTS OR

17:43 - CERTIFICATION PROGRAM. AND

17:44 - WE'RE LOOKING TO ROLL IT OUT ON

17:45 - CERTIFICATION THIS YEAR FOR

17:47 - DRUG AND DUI NEXT YEAR FOR

17:50 - MENTAL HEALTH AND OUR VETERANS

17:51 - COURTS. BUT WE WE WILL TAKE AS

17:53 - MUCH FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM THE

17:55 - GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND THE

17:55 - GOVERNOR, AS YOU'RE WILLING TO

17:56 - GIVE US SENT THESE IMPORTANT

17:58 - GRANT

17:59 - MONIES BACK TO OUR TREATMENT

18:01 - COURTS TO PROVIDE THEM THE

18:01 - RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO DO.

18:02 - THE AMAZING WORK THAT THEY'RE

18:03 - DOING. SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR

18:04 - SUPPORT.

18:06 - >>THIS FUNDS DO SEEM TO BE I'M

18:07 - QUITE EFFECTIVE. A NEW

18:07 - WESTMORELAND COUNTY OR DRUG

18:11 - TREATMENT COURT IS NOW ON THEIR

18:13 - 22ND OR 23RD CLASS THAT HAD

18:14 - OVER 100 GRADUATES. IT'S ONE OF

18:16 - OUR MOST SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS TO

18:20 - KEEP PEOPLE STREET WORKING.

18:22 - AND WE'VE EXPANDED OVER INTO

18:23 - THOSE VETERANS COURTS. BUT

18:25 - REALLY ARE JUDGES DO THAT ON

18:25 - THEIR LUNCH BREAK? YOU KNOW,

18:29 - IN ADDITION TO

18:29 - SO I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED

18:32 - THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT 77,000

18:33 - SEEMS LITTLE BIT LOW FOR THE

18:33 - AMOUNT OF BANG WE'RE GETTING

18:37 - FOR THAT BUCK.

18:37 - >>YOU'RE REPRESENTING ELSE.

18:38 - AND I I'VE BEEN HERE A COUPLE

18:40 - OF YEARS NOW TALKING ABOUT THE

18:41 - TREATMENT COURTS AND BEEN OUT

18:42 - THERE AND WE COULD YOU SO MUCH

18:45 - MORE MONEY AND THAT LINE.

18:46 - BUT IS JUST A STOCKY NOTED, WE

18:47 - HAVE WE HAVE LINE ITEMS RIGHT

18:49 - NOW. THEY'RE NOT FULLY FUNDING

18:51 - OUR CONSTITUTIONAL COMPLIMENT

18:52 - OF COMMON PLEAS. COURT JUDGES,

18:53 - SHAW AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO

18:55 - BE HERE, BEING ABLE TO ASK FOR

18:58 - THE WELL NEEDED IN I FUNDS FOR

18:59 - TREATMENT COURSE BECAUSE I

19:02 - BELIEVE THERE'S A HIGH

19:03 - OUR ALLY ARE EGGS AND SEE RIGHT

19:04 - NOW IS GETTING OUR COMPLIMENTS

19:05 - FULLY FUNDED AND ALL THE

19:07 - POSITIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE

19:08 - CREATED.

19:08 - >>THEN SHIFTING GEARS A LITTLE

19:09 - BIT. IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A

19:10 - SPECIALLY COURT. BUT IN THE

19:12 - AREA OF MENTAL HEALTH, WE

19:14 - TALKED LAST APPROPRIATIONS

19:15 - HEARING, THE BAIT BEHAVIORAL

19:17 - HEALTH COMMISSION AND, YOU

19:18 - KNOW, WESTMORELAND COUNTY,

19:22 - THERE IS A BIG DELAY AND

19:23 - SOMETIMES EXTENDING OF TIME

19:24 - THAT SOMEBODY IS IN PRISON

19:25 - BECAUSE THEY'RE WAITING FOR

19:25 - THOSE MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS

19:28 - THE JUDICIARY CREATED THE

19:30 - OFFICE OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH

19:32 - AND THERE WERE MEETINGS TO THE

19:33 - STATE WHERE THERE WERE THERE.

19:35 - SOME KEY FINDINGS THAT WE CAN

19:37 - HELP BETTER ADDRESS THE

19:38 - BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUE THAT

19:39 - WE'RE FINDING IN OUR PRISONS IN

19:41 - OUR COURTS.

19:45 - I THINK INJURY THAT MAY I

19:47 - TAKEN. THANK YOU,

19:48 - REPRESENTATIVE FOR THAT

19:49 - QUESTION. I MEAN, SOME OF THE

19:50 - KEY FINDINGS COMING OUT OF OUR

19:53 - STATEWIDE CEMENT AND WE JUST

19:54 - HELD 7 REGIONAL SUMMITS.

19:57 - WE HAD THERE JUDICIALLY LEAD.

19:59 - >>REGIONAL COUNCILS ACROSS THE

20:02 - COMMONWEALTH THAT ARE

20:04 - PARTNERING WITH LOCAL

20:05 - GOVERNMENT. OUR COUNTY

20:05 - EXECUTIVE AND OTHER

20:09 - STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COUNTY AND

20:12 - A LOT OF THE THE THEMES THAT WE

20:13 - HEARD IN OUR STATE WAS TOM, IT

20:16 - WERE SORT OF REPEATED IN THESE

20:17 - REGIONAL SUMMITS, WHICH IS, YOU

20:18 - KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO BUILD

20:20 - CRISIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUR

20:21 - COMMON WELL SO THAT THERE IS

20:23 - A CONTINUUM OF CARE FOR THESE

20:24 - INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STRUGGLING

20:27 - WITH

20:31 - MENTAL HEALTH. THERE IS A

20:33 - NEED TO ADDRESS COMPETENCY

20:34 - ASSESSMENTS AND A NUMBER OF

20:35 - JURISDICTIONS ARE DOING THAT.

20:39 - AND MONTGOMERY COUNTY JUDGE

20:40 - GILL, WHY WHILE HEIMER STAB

20:41 - ISRAELI A GROUNDBREAKING

20:44 - COMPETENCY DACA PROGRAM THAT IS

20:45 - NOW BEING REPLICATED IN AREAS

20:48 - ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH,

20:49 - INCLUDING I THINK WESTMORELAND

20:51 - IS LOOKING AT THAT. AND AND

20:52 - CRAWFORD COUNTY, THEY HAVE

20:55 - STUFF THAT UP AS WELL. SO WHAT

20:56 - THAT WILL DO IS SORT OF FOCUS.

21:02 - THE RESOURCES ON EXPEDITING

21:05 - THESE ASSESSMENTS. SO THAT THE

21:07 - PERSON DOESN'T DI COMPENSATE

21:09 - ALL SITTING IN JAIL. GREAT.

21:11 - THANK YOU, JUS. THANK YOU, MR.

21:11 - CHAIR. THANK THE GENTLEMAN.

21:14 - REPRESENTATIVE KING CAKE.

21:14 - THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK

21:17 - YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

21:20 - I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT

21:21 - >>A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SORT OF

21:25 - INTERNAL COURT POLICY.

21:28 - WE'RE SEEING MORE PEOPLE

21:29 - EXPERIENCING A CHILLING EFFECT

21:33 - AS AS WE'RE SEEING FEDERAL

21:35 - CRACKDOWNS ON IMMIGRATION.

21:36 - AND AND SO PEOPLE WHO ARE

21:38 - AFRAID TO COME TO COURT HOUSES

21:41 - THAT THEY MIGHT BE PICKED UP

21:42 - FOR IMMIGRATION, EVEN IF

21:44 - THEY'RE LAWFULLY IN THE UNITED

21:47 - STATES. SO COMING AS WITNESSES

21:47 - REPORTING CRIMES, ESPECIALLY

21:50 - LIKE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR

21:51 - OTHERWISE SEEKING RELIEF BEFORE

21:53 - THE COURTS.

21:57 - DOES THE JUDICIARY HAVE A

22:00 - POLICY TO ALLOW

22:02 - FOLKS TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY

22:03 - AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS

22:06 - UNIVERSALLY?

22:07 - ACCESSIBLE AT OR COULD IT BE

22:09 - IN CASES LIKE THIS? YES, SIR,

22:13 - THAT IS. HAS IT BEEN USED?

22:14 - WE USED THAT DURING THE

22:15 - PANDEMIC.

22:15 - >>BUT THE REALITY IS IT'S NOT

22:18 - GOOD. CRACK.

22:19 - SO I WOULD SAY THE ANSWER

22:22 - SHOULD BE NO.

22:22 - THE FACT IS THAT YOU NEED TO

22:25 - COME IN.

22:26 - YOU'RE DEALING WITH PEOPLE'S

22:28 - LIVES WHILE WE WERE CONSIDERED

22:30 - CONCERNING. WE CONSIDER THE

22:31 - FACT THAT IT MAY BE CONVENIENT

22:34 - OR EASY TO

22:35 - DO VIRTUAL. THE REALITY IS WHEN

22:37 - SOMEONE'S LIVELIHOOD OR OR

22:38 - WAGES OR HOME IS AT ON THE LINE

22:40 - WITH THE DECISION OF A JUDGE

22:42 - IS MUCH BETTER FOR THE JUDGE TO

22:43 - SEE THAT PERSON SO WE CAN JUDGE

22:45 - THEIR CHARACTER AS TO WHETHER

22:46 - THEY'RE TELLING THE TRUTH AND

22:49 - NOT JUST THOSE INTANGIBLES THAT

22:50 - ARE ESSENTIAL IS DISPENSING

22:54 - EQUAL JUSTICE.

22:55 - >>I APPRECIATE THAT AS SOMEBODY

22:57 - WHO I SHARE PARKING LOT WITH A

23:00 - MAGISTRATE JUDGE AND WE'VE SEEN

23:03 - A NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO ARE

23:04 - TRYING TO ACCESS THE COURTS BE

23:06 - PICKED UP BEFORE THEY ARE EVEN

23:07 - BE ABLE TO ENTER THE BUILDING.

23:08 - I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT

23:10 - THE COURTS REALLY NEED TO

23:11 - CONSIDER IN TERMS OF ACCESS

23:12 - TO JUSTICE FOR THOSE

23:15 - INDIVIDUALS.

23:17 - I WANT TO TURN A LITTLE BIT,

23:19 - TOO. I'LL TO SO THE AISLE TO

23:22 - RULES PROHIBIT ORGANIZATIONS

23:24 - THAT IT FUNDS FROM RECEIVING

23:25 - MORE THAN 50% OF THE FUNDING OF

23:26 - THEIR FUNDING FROM HAS A

23:28 - STATUTORY SOURCE LIKE COURT

23:32 - APPOINTMENTS AS COUNSEL

23:34 - BUT WE AS THE LEGISLATURE HAVE

23:36 - HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE

23:37 - RIGHT TO COUNSEL AND EXPANDING

23:40 - IT BEYOND THE CRIMINAL REALM.

23:42 - SO IN THAT CASE, IF WE'RE DOING

23:44 - THAT FOR LANDLORD, TENANT CASES

23:48 - OR OR CIVIL CASES. IS THE

23:48 - JUDICIARY CONSIDERING AMENDING

23:52 - THOSE RULES OR WOULD THEY IN

23:55 - ORDER TO ENSURE THAT BAR

23:56 - FOUNDATION'S LEGAL AID SERVICES

23:56 - AND OTHERS ARE STILL ELIGIBLE

24:00 - FOR ALE TO FUNDING. IF WE AS

24:01 - THE LEGISLATURE WOULD EXPAND

24:04 - THE RIGHT TO COUNSEL.

24:08 - >>AND THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST

24:12 - I'VE HEARD OF THIS IS AS AS A

24:15 - POSSIBILITY. CERTAINLY WE AS A

24:17 - COURT OFTEN REACT TO THINGS

24:18 - THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY DOES

24:20 - FROM A POLICY

24:21 - PERSPECTIVE AND AND, YOU KNOW,

24:24 - FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN.

24:25 - >>WHEN CLEAN STATE LEGISLATION

24:26 - WAS PASSED, THE JUDICIARY TOOK

24:28 - STEPS TO IMPLEMENT A CLEAN

24:30 - SLATE LEGISLATION. AND IF THE

24:31 - GENERAL ASSEMBLY WERE TO DO

24:32 - SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF

24:34 - WHAT

24:35 - YOU'RE SAYING, I HAVE NO

24:36 - REASONABLY WHY WE WOULDN'T

24:37 - REEXAMINE THE RULE. I CERTAINLY

24:38 - CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE RESULT

24:41 - WOULD BE. AND MAYBE ANDREA

24:44 - KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE RULE THERE

24:45 - THAN THAN I DO. BUT I DON'T

24:46 - SEE WHY WE WOULDN'T AT LEAST

24:47 - LOOK INTO IT. IF THAT WAS

24:49 - SOMETHING THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

24:50 - DID.

24:51 - >>I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY

24:53 - BECAUSE I THINK THIS GOES TO A

24:54 - POINT THAT YOU MADE THAT THE

24:57 - PENNSYLVANIA LEGAL AID NETWORK

24:58 - IS RECEIVED THE LARGEST GRANT

25:02 - FROM THE AISLE TOWARD CURRENTLY

25:03 - TO FACILITATE THE STATEWIDE

25:07 - DELIVERY OF CIVIL LEGAL

25:08 - SERVICES THROUGHOUT. IT'S 70

25:10 - LOCAL OFFICES ACROSS THE STATE

25:11 - AND AND EVERY COUNTY HAS A

25:16 - PLAN. LEGAL AID OFFICE LAST

25:18 - YEAR. I I HAVE ASKED STAFF AND

25:20 - STAFF REPORTED THAT THE PLAN

25:20 - THAT WORK DELIVERING FREE SIT

25:23 - CIVIL LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO

25:26 - OVER 80,000 HOUSEHOLDS REACHING

25:29 - OVER 176,000 INDIVIDUALS,

25:31 - INCLUDING OVER 70 WE'RE 1000

25:34 - CHILDREN.

25:35 - THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S

25:36 - FANTASTIC. AND I WANT TO MAKE

25:37 - SURE THAT THAT CONTINUES TO

25:41 - BE AVAILABLE. IF WE DECIDE TO

25:44 - EXPAND THE RIGHT TO COUNSEL

25:45 - SAID THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR

25:45 - BEING HERE. THANK YOU, MR.

25:47 - CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU, ALI.

25:51 - >>REPRESENTATIVE KRUPA.

25:51 - >>GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU ALL

25:54 - FOR

25:55 - BEING HERE AND AND YOUR

25:56 - WILLINGNESS. I BET YOU THIS IS

25:58 - THE WORST PART OF YOUR JOB.

26:00 - SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND I

26:02 - SAY THAT WITH CANDOR BECAUSE I

26:04 - COME FROM AN ATTORNEY BY TRADE,

26:04 - SAID BEEN HERE FOR 3 YEARS AND

26:06 - SOMETIMES IT'S VERY PAINFUL.

26:08 - BUT THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN,

26:09 - I WANT TO DISCUSS YOUR BUDGET

26:11 - WITH RESPECT TO THE POTENTIAL

26:15 - LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA.

26:16 - I WANT AN INITIALLY NOTE THAT I

26:17 - FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THE IDEA

26:18 - OF A NET POSITIVE FINANCIAL

26:20 - GAIN FROM LEGALIZING MARIJUANA

26:24 - IS A FALLACY. IF YOU LOOK TO

26:25 - STATES LIKE COLORADO HAVE BEEN

26:26 - DOWN THIS ROAD, STUDIES

26:28 - INDICATE THAT FOR EVERY DOLLAR

26:31 - THAT'S GENERATED IN TAXPAYER

26:33 - REVENUE AND THERE IS A COST TO

26:35 - SOCIETY THAT'S OVER $4 IN TERMS

26:37 - OF HEIGHTENED CRIMES, TRUANCY,

26:39 - HOMELESSNESS, ADDICTION ISSUES.

26:42 - IT JUST GOES ON AND ON AND ON.

26:44 - I FIRMLY BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT

26:45 - SHOULD NEVER ATTEMPT TO PROFIT

26:48 - FROM ADDICTION. THE PROPOSAL

26:52 - TO LEGALIZE RECREATIONAL

26:52 - MARIJUANA RAISES SERIOUS

26:53 - CONCERNS FROM FAMILIES FOR

26:55 - THOSE IN RECOVERY AND FOR THE

26:58 - YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WILL

26:59 - INEVITABLY SEE INCREASED

27:00 - NORMALIZATION AND ACCESS TO

27:03 - THIS DRUG. AND IT'S

27:04 - INTERESTING. WE'VE JUST HAD A

27:04 - VERY THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATION

27:07 - YOU DID ABOUT OUR TREATMENT

27:11 - COURTS AND THE THE IDEA THAT

27:13 - THIS WOULD BECOME LAW JUST IS

27:14 - GOING TO ADD TO THE JOB

27:15 - SECURITY FOR EVERYBODY THAT IS

27:18 - INVOLVED IN MANAGING THIS

27:19 - TREATMENT COURTS. BUT TODAY,

27:19 - AS IS APPROPRIATE, OUR FOCUS

27:22 - IS ON BUDGET ISSUES AND HOW

27:23 - THIS WOULD IMPACT THE BUDGET OF

27:26 - THE JUDICIARY. SO THE GOVERNOR

27:29 - SURGE, THAT LEGALIZATION WOULD

27:32 - REDUCE CANNABIS RELATED

27:33 - ADJUDICATIONS IN THE JUDICIAL

27:34 - SYSTEM AND EASE THE BURDENS ON

27:37 - THE COURTS LAST YEAR, HOWEVER,

27:37 - TESTIMONY SUGGESTED THERE WAS

27:40 - NO CLEAR TESTAMENT OF ACTUAL

27:41 - SAVINGS. AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT

27:42 - THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S A FANTASY.

27:43 - SO IN AN EFFORT TO GAIN SOME

27:46 - CLARITY WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE

27:48 - JUDICIARY'S CURRENT CASELOAD

27:51 - IS ATTRIBUTED SOLELY TO ADULT

27:54 - MARIJUANA POSSESSION.

27:58 - THOSE ARE STATISTICS WE MAY BE

28:01 - ABLE TO RUN THROUGH OUR CP CMS

28:02 - SYSTEM AND GET BACK TO YOU

28:04 - AFTER THE HEARING. I CERTAINLY

28:05 - DON'T HAVE THOSE STATS OFF THE

28:06 - TOP MY HEAD AND THOSE THAT

28:07 - WOULD BE COUNTY BASE.

28:07 - >>OKAY. THAT WOULD BE THAT

28:10 - WOULD BE GREAT.

28:12 - >>SO I'M I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU

28:13 - DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC

28:14 - VERIFIED DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT

28:15 - THERE WOULD BE A POTENTIAL

28:18 - SAVINGS.

28:18 - >>REPRESENTATIVE, THINK WE I

28:19 - THINK WE RECEIVED A SIMILAR

28:21 - QUESTION THAT LAST YEAR YOU

28:22 - HAD. SO IF I COULD JUST ROLL

28:25 - THE TAPE BACK AND THE SCHOOL

28:27 - SAID LAST YEAR AND HOPEFULLY

28:30 - NOT NOT BEING CONSISTENT

28:32 - WITH THAT. AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN

28:33 - ASKED ABOUT OUR POSITION ON

28:36 - WHAT KIND OF SAVINGS THERE

28:37 - WOULD BE FROM A LEGALIZATION OF

28:39 - MARIJUANA. AS WE SAID LAST

28:40 - YEAR. THAT CERTAINLY IS A

28:41 - POLICY DECISION THAT WOULD BE

28:43 - MADE BY THE LEGISLATIVE AND

28:45 - EXECUTIVE BRANCH RESERVING OUR

28:46 - ROLE, IF ANY, TO ANY LEGAL

28:48 - CHALLENGES TO IT. IF I MAY

28:49 - POLITELY INTERRUPT, YOU'VE NOT

28:50 - BEEN ASKED BY THE GOVERNOR'S

28:51 - OFFICE, BUT I AT LEAST ASHLEY

28:53 - LAST YEAR.

28:55 - >>US THIS. I THINK AGAIN, I

28:57 - THINK YOU ASKED US IF THEY IF

28:58 - THEY ASKED US, I THINK HER

28:58 - ANSWER WAS WE WERE NOT ASKED

29:01 - IN ADVANCE AND I'M NOT AWARE

29:02 - THAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKED

29:04 - RECENTLY. WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT

29:04 - THAT. ALL I WOULD SAY IS IF

29:07 - THERE ARE ANY COSTS ASSOCIATED

29:09 - WITH IMPLEMENTING ANY OF THAT,

29:12 - THAT THAT THE LEGISLATURE AND

29:13 - THE GOVERNOR BE CONSIDERATE

29:14 - OF ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT

29:16 - WOULD FALL ON THE JUDICIARY AND

29:18 - MAKE SURE THOSE ARE FULLY

29:19 - FUNDED. SO THIS THIS I DON'T

29:20 - BELIEVE THAT I ASKED THIS LAST

29:22 - YEAR, BUT THE CURRENT PROPOSAL

29:24 - INCLUDES AUTOMATIC OR IMMEDIATE

29:25 - EXPUNGEMENT OF CERTAIN

29:27 - MARIJUANA RELATED RECORDS.

29:28 - DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IT

29:32 - WOULD COST TO MODIFY THE

29:33 - UNIFIED JUDICIAL COMPUTER

29:34 - SYSTEM TO PROCESS. IS THAT

29:35 - EXPUNGEMENTS WITH THIS REQUIRE

29:37 - ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL OVER TIME

29:40 - OR OUTSIDE CONTRACTS?

29:44 - REPRESENTATIVE, THIS IS A VERY

29:47 - THIS IS NOT A HARD NUMBER.

29:50 - >>BUT WE DO

29:51 - ESTIMATE THAT RICO TING, YOU

29:54 - KNOW WHAT, AUTOMATIC

29:54 - EXPUNGEMENT FOR MARIJUANA

29:55 - OFFENSES IS NOT THE SAME AS

29:57 - CLEAN SLATE.

29:58 - SO WE DO. WE WOULD NEED TO

30:03 - BUILD SOMETHING. TO FACILITATE

30:06 - THAT

30:06 - AND INVOLVE THE PENNSYLVANIA

30:07 - STATE POLICE TO ENSURE THAT ALL

30:08 - THE NECESSARY PROCEDURES ARE

30:12 - ACCOUNTED FOR. WE ESTIMATE THAT

30:13 - MAY BE AT MINIMUM, IT WOULD

30:15 - COST 2 MILLION DOLLARS.

30:19 - >>BUT AGAIN, THAT IS, YOU KNOW,

30:20 - JUST BASED ON EXPERIENCE WITH

30:21 - CLEAN SLATE. AND THIS WOULD

30:24 - NOT BE EXACTLY ANALOGOUS TO

30:27 - CLEAN SLATE. AND AND SO WHAT

30:29 - OPC WOULD ASK IS THAT YOU

30:32 - CONTINUE TO

30:33 - ENGAGE U.S. AND HAS LEGISLATION

30:36 - IS INTRODUCED AND STARTS TO

30:37 - MOVE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE

30:40 - THAT WE WORK THROUGH THOSE

30:40 - DETAILS. AND WHERE IS IT SAFE

30:43 - TO ASSUME THAT THOSE FIGURES,

30:45 - WHATEVER THE ALTERNATE THEY

30:46 - WOULD END UP BEING ARE NOT

30:46 - CAUGHT CALCULATED INTO THE

30:48 - CURRENT THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT.

30:50 - OKAY.

30:52 - >>I JUST WANT TO END AND

30:53 - STATING THAT BEFORE THIS BODY

30:57 - RELIES ON ANY PROJECTED

30:58 - MARIJUANA REVENUE THAT WE DO

31:01 - NEED A FULL ACCOUNTING ON ON

31:01 - REAL NUMBERS OF WHAT THIS IS

31:02 - GOING TO CAUSE THE JUDICIARY IN

31:03 - OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT. THANK YOU

31:05 - SO MUCH.

31:06 - >>THANK YOU, JENNA LEE.

31:06 - REPRESENTATIVE DEVELOPMENT.

31:08 - THANK YOU, CHAIR AND THANK YOU

31:11 - ALL FOR

31:13 - BEING HERE IN 2025, THERE WERE

31:15 - 446 INCIDENTS REPORTED. COMMON

31:19 - PLEAS. COURTS AND 451 AT

31:21 - MINISTERIAL DISTRICT COURTS.

31:25 - THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE BUDGET

31:26 - PROVIDES TO THE JUDICIARY WITH

31:28 - 2.8 MILLION DOLLARS IN STATE

31:28 - FUNDING FOR UNIFIED JUDICIAL

31:33 - SYSTEM. SECURITY 654,000 IN

31:35 - DOLLAR INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR.

31:38 - CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

31:39 - HOW THE FUNDING IS USED AND IF

31:42 - YOU BELIEVE IT IS ADEQUATE TO

31:43 - PROVIDE PHYSICAL SECURITY TO

31:44 - THE COMMON PLEAS OR MAGISTERIAL

31:47 - DISTRICT COURTS.

31:51 - YES, SURE.

31:52 - >>SO I THINK ALONG THE LINES OF

31:54 - WHAT WE SAID ABOUT TREATMENT

31:54 - COURTS, OF COURSE, WE COULD

31:57 - ALWAYS USE MORE MONEY TO ENSURE

32:01 - THAT OUR JUDGES, COURT STAFF

32:02 - AND THE PEOPLE THAT ENTER THE

32:05 - COURTHOUSE STORE ARE KEPT SAFE.

32:09 - WE USE A A LARGE PERCENTAGE

32:12 - OF APPROXIMATELY 2.6 MILLION

32:15 - DOLLARS OF THAT MONEY IN ANNUAL

32:17 - GRANTS THAT GO BACK TO HARDEN.

32:19 - BOTH THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE IS

32:21 - AND THE MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT

32:24 - DISTRICT JUDGE OFFICES, A WHOLE

32:27 - PANOPLY OF THINGS THAT ARE

32:27 - PROTECTIVE MEASURES TO PROTECT

32:29 - THOSE JUDGES AND STAFF WHILE

32:32 - THEY WORK IN THOSE IN

32:36 - THOSE AREAS. WE ALSO FUND

32:39 - PROGRAMS THAT

32:41 - HELP PROTECT A JUDGE IS A

32:43 - PERSONAL IDENTIFYING

32:45 - INFORMATION BY BEING SOLD TO

32:48 - HARVESTERS AND SORT OF COMPILED

32:52 - AND DOSSIERS, WE DO A NUMBER

32:55 - OF EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THIS

32:57 - YEAR. I THINK LAST YEAR WE DID.

33:02 - >>A PROGRAM ON PERSONAL ATTACKS

33:04 - ON JUDGES THIS YEAR. WE'RE

33:07 - GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON CYBER

33:10 - SECURITY, 4 JUDGES AND FOR

33:12 - COURTS. BUT AS I SAID AT THE

33:14 - BEGINNING, WE COULD DO SO MUCH

33:15 - MORE. I MEAN, THE MAGISTERIAL

33:16 - DISTRICT JUDGES IN PARTICULAR.

33:20 - ARE, YOU KNOW, SITTING IN

33:23 - COURTS THAT ARE IN STRIP MALLS

33:25 - OR, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY IT.

33:26 - I THINK WE'VE HAD A RECENT

33:30 - OCCASION WHERE THE THE BUILDING

33:33 - WAS DEEMED UNSAFE. AND SO THE

33:34 - MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT COURT HAD

33:38 - TO RELOCATE. SO THOSE COURTS IN

33:41 - PARTICULAR

33:42 - DON'T HAVE EXCEPT IN CERTAIN

33:44 - LOCALES WHERE THE COUNTY

33:45 - COMMISSIONERS HAVE DECIDED TO

33:48 - FUND PORT SECURITY. THOSE

33:49 - COURTS DO NOT HAVE ARMED

33:50 - SECURITY OR MAGNETOMETERS AT

33:52 - THEIR DOOR. AND THE THING IF I

33:56 - COULD SHARE WITH YOU.

33:56 - >>58 OUT OF 67 COUNTIES

33:58 - THROUGHOUT THE COMMONWEALTH OF

33:58 - PENNSYLVANIA HAVE REPORTED

34:02 - SECURITY INCIDENTS. IT'S VERY

34:04 - INTERESTING WHEN I LOOK AT

34:06 - THESE NUMBERS, WE LOOK AT IT

34:07 - AND SOMETIMES YOU FORGET THAT

34:09 - WE'RE DEALING WITH PEOPLE'S

34:10 - LIVES JUST THIS YEAR OR JUST

34:13 - THIS PAST 2025. IN LEBANON

34:14 - COUNTY, ONE OF OUR JUDGES ON 2

34:17 - OCCASIONS ON DECEMBER 5TH, A

34:18 - SEVERED EAR HAD PLACED ON HER

34:20 - DRIVE.

34:22 - AND THEN ON DECEMBER 31ST.

34:25 - THAT SAYS IT WAS UP ALBA.

34:26 - OUR PRESIDENT JUDGE WHO

34:28 - HAPPENED TO SPEND THE LAST 25

34:29 - YEARS WITH ON THE BENCH ON

34:29 - FOUR-DOOR HEADED DEATH RIGHT IN

34:31 - JEFFERSON COUNTY. AND THEN WE

34:33 - JUST RECENTLY HAD ANOTHER

34:35 - INCIDENT OVER IN BEDFORD COUNTY

34:35 - IN WHICH A FACEBOOK WAS

34:38 - LIFE-THREATENING. IT'S

34:40 - DIFFERENT WHEN YOU KNOW, THESE

34:42 - PEOPLE, THIS IS NOT JUST THAT

34:43 - THESE ARE FRIENDS OF OURS,

34:46 - FRIENDS OF YOURS.

34:47 - AND PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE THAT

34:48 - INTO CONSIDERATION. I FIND IT

34:50 - FAR TOO EASY. THE PEOPLE THIS

34:52 - MESS, ADDITIONAL SECURITY

34:52 - THREATS BECAUSE WE ALWAYS SEE

34:55 - IT ON TV SOMEWHERE ELSE.

34:55 - IT'S HAPPENING IN PENNSYLVANIA

34:56 - AND IT'S HAPPENING TO MY

34:59 - FRIENDS.

35:01 - >>IS THERE A REAL QUICK?

35:02 - IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU

35:03 - THINK THAT WE CAN DO

35:04 - LEGISLATIVELY TO HELP WITH

35:06 - THIS?

35:08 - >>I HATE TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN

35:10 - RECORD. YOU YOU REFERENCE THE

35:11 - GOVERNMENT'S THE GOVERNOR'S

35:12 - PROPOSAL. I URGE YOU TO LOOK

35:15 - AT THE JUDICIARY BRANCH

35:16 - PROPOSAL AND FULLY FUND THE

35:17 - REQUEST THAT WE MADE IN OUR

35:17 - SECURITY LINE ITEMS, INCLUDING

35:21 - OR CYBERSECURITY AND

35:22 - CYBERSECURITY IS A BIG THING IS

35:24 - WE ALL KNOW IN YOUR BRANCH OF

35:25 - GOVERNMENT IN THE EXECUTIVE

35:28 - BRANCH, WE HAD A LARGE STATE

35:29 - AGENCY HAVE A CYBER ATTACK

35:30 - WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS

35:31 - THAT NOT ONLY AFFECTED THE

35:32 - AGENCY BUT EFFECTIVE THE

35:32 - ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE IN

35:34 - THE COMMONWEALTH OF

35:35 - PENNSYLVANIA, THAT THE NUMBERS

35:37 - THAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR OUR IN

35:38 - OUR VIEW NECESSARY. AND WE'D

35:40 - ASK THAT YOU FULLY FUND THEM.

35:41 - >>THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU,

35:43 - SIR.

35:44 - THANK THE GENTLEMAN.

35:47 - REPRESENTATIVE CUTS.

35:50 - GOOD TO

35:52 - HAVE YOU.

35:53 - >>WANT TO FOCUS IN ON A COUPLE

35:54 - OF NUMBERS OVERALL, TOP LINE,

35:58 - BUDGET NUMBERS

35:59 - SO.

36:00 - >>25 26 FISCAL YEAR. THE

36:02 - JUDICIARY RECEIVED 453.4 IN

36:04 - GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATIONS.

36:05 - AN INCREASE OF 4%. AND THEN

36:09 - FOR 26 27 GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED

36:10 - 500.2, WHICH IS A 10.3%

36:13 - INCREASE

36:16 - AND

36:16 - >>WHILE THE GOVERNOR'S OVERALL

36:17 - GENERAL FUND REQUEST IS 5.4

36:20 - OVER. SO I'M CURIOUS THE THE

36:21 - DISPARITY AND INCREASE THEIR

36:22 - 10.3 FOR JUDICIARY. WHAT IN

36:24 - YOUR MIND IS DRIVING THAT THE

36:26 - BIGGEST DRIVERS FOR YOUR

36:29 - INCREASE THAT'S NEEDED.

36:35 - >>REPRESENTED BY, AS YOU KNOW,

36:36 - THE JUDICIARY WENT THROUGH A

36:36 - SIX-YEAR PERIOD OF FLAT

36:39 - FUNDING.

36:40 - OUR DRIVERS, THE SAME DRIVERS

36:41 - THAT EVERY OTHER BRANCH OF

36:42 - GOVERNMENT HAS 90% OF OUR

36:45 - BUDGET IS PERSONNEL GROUP.

36:46 - THESE ARE EXPENSES THAT WE

36:48 - CAN'T CONTROL A LOT OF THE

36:48 - PERSONNEL. WE SORT OF COMMON

36:49 - PLEAS, LITEMS PERSONNEL THAT'S

36:51 - AUTHORIZED BY THE LEGISLATURE

36:52 - AND THAT WE ARE

36:54 - CONSTITUTIONALLY REQUIRED TO

36:56 - FIGHT THE DRIVERS OF OUR BUDGET

36:58 - ARE NOT DIFFERENT FROM THE

36:59 - OTHER DRIVERS, ACCEPT THE FACT

37:00 - THAT SENATE LAST YEAR. AND I

37:01 - SAID IT THE YEAR BEFORE WE ARE

37:02 - MAKING UP FOR A PERIOD OF FLAT

37:05 - FUNDING ON TOP OF THAT.

37:08 - >>WE RELY WE HAVE A NUMBER THAT

37:09 - WE NEED TO OPERATE THE GENERAL

37:12 - PROPERLY. THE JUDICIARY, WHICH

37:13 - THEN GETS SUPPLEMENTED BY THE

37:16 - AT 49 FUNDS.

37:16 - >>IN GOOD YEARS AT 49 FUNDS

37:20 - WERE ABLE TO FILL SOME

37:21 - LOWER FUNDING THAT WE GOT IN

37:24 - OUR GENERAL FUND

37:25 - APPROPRIATION WIDENS AT 49 IS

37:27 - COMING CLOSE TO A FISCAL CLIFF.

37:29 - WE'RE ONLY PROJECTING

37:29 - 60 MILLION DOLLARS OF AVAILABLE

37:30 - FUNDS TO SUPPLEMENT THE STATE

37:33 - FUNDING

37:34 - THIS YEAR. SO OUR BUDGET

37:36 - REQUEST THIS YEAR IS BASED ON

37:37 - THE REALITY THAT WE WILL ONLY

37:38 - HAVE 60 MILLION DOLLARS FROM

37:41 - FROM AT 49 POINT. LET ME

37:42 - LET ME.

37:43 - >>0 AND ON THAT ACT, 49, WHAT

37:44 - CAN WE DO TO COUNTER THAT TREND

37:47 - OR SHOULD WE EXPECT GOING

37:48 - FORWARD AS THE AT 49 FUNDS

37:51 - CONTINUE TO TO GO DOWN THAT

37:53 - YOU'LL JUST NEED MORE IN

37:54 - GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATIONS OR

37:54 - SOMETHING WE CAN DO AS A

37:55 - LEGISLATOR LEGISLATURE TO

37:58 - REVERSE THAT.

38:01 - >>I THINK OUR COSTS ARE GOING

38:04 - TO CONTINUE TO GO UP JUST LIKE

38:04 - EVERYBODY'S COSTS ARE GOING TO

38:07 - CONTINUE TO GO UP. AND SO IN

38:11 - THE ACT, 49 FUNDS. YES, WE ARE.

38:12 - BUT WE ANTICIPATED DECLINING AT

38:16 - 49 FUNDS AVAILABLE

38:16 - WHAT WE'D ASK THAT YOU COULD DO

38:17 - IS LOOK AT OUR BUDGET THIS

38:20 - YEAR.

38:21 - AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

38:22 - ABOUT ANY SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS

38:23 - THAT YOU THINK THAT OUR NUMBERS

38:25 - ARE JUST COMPLETELY OUT OF

38:26 - WHACK. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT

38:27 - DISCUSSION WITHOUT NOT. I THINK

38:29 - WHAT I'M WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS

38:31 - >>YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S

38:34 - THE AGE OLD PRINCIPLE THAT

38:35 - PEOPLE SHOULD PAY FOR THE COST

38:35 - OF THEIR OWN ADMINISTRATION OF

38:38 - THE COURT RIGHT. SO YOU'RE

38:42 - GOING TO HAVE STATE FEES MAKE

38:42 - UP AND FEES MAKE UP X

38:43 - PERCENTAGE. AND GENERAL FUND

38:45 - APPROPRIATIONS MAKEUP, THE

38:47 - REST, THE PRESENT OR SO I GUESS

38:48 - WHAT I'M I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IS,

38:51 - YOU KNOW, STATE COMPARED TO

38:53 - CAREFULLY TO OTHER STATES,

38:56 - WHETHER WE'RE ON THE SAME,

38:56 - WHETHER WE'RE ON PAR WITH OTHER

38:59 - STATES IN TERMS OF WHAT

39:00 - PERCENTAGE OF JUDICIARY FUNDING

39:04 - COMES FROM FEES VERSUS STATE

39:05 - APPROPRIATIONS.

39:05 - >>I CAN'T TELL YOU WHETHER

39:08 - OTHER STATES FROM PART WITH US

39:10 - AND YOU KNOW, IT'S AT 49 MAKES

39:12 - UP 12% OF OUR GENERAL OPERATING

39:14 - BUDGET. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS

39:15 - THAT THE OTHER STATES THAT HAVE

39:19 - TO RELY ON FEES, WHETHER IN

39:21 - THEIR GENERAL OPERATING OR FOR

39:22 - THE ENTIRETY OF THEIR JUDICIAL

39:24 - COMPUTER SYSTEM. YES, THEY ARE

39:26 - APPROACHING THE FISCAL CLIFF

39:27 - JUST LIKE WE ARE ONE. AND SO

39:27 - SO HERE'S HERE'S THE BOTTOM

39:28 - LINE. HERE'S WHAT HERE'S WHAT

39:31 - WE'RE AFTER.

39:34 - >>WE NEED A COURT SYSTEM THAT

39:34 - RECOGNIZES THOSE WHO ARE TAKING

39:37 - PART IN IT SHOULD PAY SOME PART

39:39 - OF THE REASON THAT THEY'RE

39:40 - THERE WHILE ALSO RECOGNIZING

39:42 - THAT THAT CAN'T BE A BARRIER

39:43 - TO JUSTICE AND BE A BARRIER

39:45 - TO ACCESS FOR THE LEGAL SYSTEM.

39:47 - PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY

39:49 - EXORBITANT FEES AND THAT'S

39:50 - WHERE WE AS THE GENERAL

39:52 - ASSEMBLY HAVE TO ENSURE YOUR

39:53 - APPROPRIATION KEEPS UP WITH

39:54 - IT. THAT PEOPLE AREN'T BURDENED

39:56 - BY COURT COSTS AT THE SAME

39:58 - TIME, REALIZING THAT THERE IS

39:59 - SOME LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY

40:01 - THAT IS BORN FOR THE REPEAT

40:02 - OFFENDER WHO KEEPS COMING BACK

40:08 - TO COURT OR, YOU KNOW, FOR

40:09 - SOMEONE WHO NEEDS TO TRANSFER

40:11 - WHATEVER COURT DOCUMENTS YOU

40:12 - NEED, THERE HAVE TO BE SOME

40:12 - SORT OF FEES ON IT. SO I THINK

40:13 - IT'S JUST FINDING THAT THAT

40:16 - BALANCING ACT TO ENSURE THAT

40:18 - OUR SYSTEM CAN CONTINUE TO

40:19 - OPERATE FAIRLY. AND OBVIOUSLY

40:19 - IT'S IT'S A UNIQUE POSITION.

40:23 - THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS IN

40:25 - TO HAVE THE PURSE STRINGS OVER

40:26 - THE PREPARATIONS OF THE COURTS

40:29 - AND RESPONSIBILITY. I TAKE VERY

40:30 - SERIOUSLY IS RESPECTING THE

40:32 - COEQUAL BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT

40:33 - AND MAKING SURE YOU HAVE WHAT

40:35 - YOU NEED TO TO OPERATE. AND

40:38 - I'LL WRAP UP WITH THIS AS WELL.

40:40 - I APPRECIATE YOUR CANDOR ON

40:42 - PERSONAL SECURITY FOR JUDGES.

40:44 - IT'S THE SAME THING FOR

40:45 - MEMBERS, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

40:46 - AND ALL THE WAY DOWN. A SCHOOL

40:48 - BOARD MEMBERS IN TOWNSHIP

40:49 - SUPERVISORS. AND IT'S INCUMBENT

40:49 - UPON US AND EVERY MEMBER OF

40:51 - THIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO ENSURE

40:55 - THAT WE FUND. PERSONAL SECURITY

40:57 - THAT WE WE ENSURE THAT OUR

40:59 - MEMBERS OF THE COURT FEEL SAFE,

41:00 - THAT MEMBERS WHO ARE ELECTED

41:02 - FEEL SAFE BECAUSE IF WE DON'T,

41:04 - PEOPLE WILL STOP DOING IT.

41:06 - AND WHEN PEOPLE STOP

41:07 - PARTICIPATING, YOU SPOKE ABOUT

41:07 - THE DAY CAN SEIZE. WE HAVEN'T

41:11 - MDJ LEVEL PARTLY BECAUSE PEOPLE

41:12 - DON'T FEEL SAFE GOING INTO

41:13 - THEIR STRIP MALLS WHERE THEY'RE

41:14 - GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE FIRST

41:15 - LINE OF DEFENSE FOR THOSE

41:18 - COURTS. SO

41:19 - I APPRECIATE THE STRIDES THAT

41:19 - YOU'RE MAKING AND WOULD WELCOME

41:22 - A CONVERSATION TO ENSURE YOUR

41:24 - SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF

41:26 - EVERYONE WHO SITS ON A BENCH.

41:27 - AND EVERYONE WHO APPEARS IN A

41:28 - COURTROOM SO THAT OUR SYSTEM OF

41:31 - JUSTICE CAN CONTINUE FREELY.

41:33 - AND ON AN UNINHABITED BY THOSE

41:34 - THREATS OF VIOLENCE. TO THANK

41:35 - YOU, CHAIRMAN TO THE LAW.

41:35 - I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT THEY

41:36 - SAY MISTER AT.

41:39 - >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PRIOR TO

41:40 - ME HAVING THIS JOB, I WAS THE

41:41 - ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE A LARGE

41:45 - FAMILY COURT SYSTEM AND THE

41:46 - GREATEST CONCERN I HAD IS

41:46 - EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST

41:49 - ARTICULATED. HOW DO WE MAKE

41:51 - SURE THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO

41:53 - JUSTICE WHILE NOT FINANCIALLY

41:54 - PRECLUDING ACCESS TO JUSTICE.

41:57 - I FOR 15 TO 20 YEARS IN THE

42:01 - PHILADELPHIA SYSTEM, WE DO

42:01 - THAT. WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO

42:04 - BALANCE. I LOOK FORWARD.

42:05 - I'M SURE THIS COURT LOOKS

42:05 - FORWARD TO HAVING DISCUSSIONS

42:08 - WITH YOU AND THE PEOPLE OF

42:09 - YOUR. IT'S A MINDSET THAT WE

42:10 - THANK. YOU CANNOT PRICE

42:13 - OURSELVES OUT OF GAS.

42:14 - AND THAT'S A CONCERN THAT I

42:16 - HAVE VERY MUCH CHAIR.

42:16 - >>THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN.

42:18 - APPRECIATE THE LATITUDE.

42:19 - THE CONVERSATION. THANK THE

42:20 - GENTLEMAN. REPRESENTATIVE

42:22 - RUGBY.

42:27 - THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

42:29 - THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE

42:29 - AND LOOKING OVER THE BUDGET.

42:30 - ONE OF THE INCREASES THAT

42:32 - CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. I WAS THE

42:34 - COMMISSION FOR FAIRNESS AND

42:36 - JUSTICE. IT'S 151,000 INCREASE,

42:39 - WHICH REPRESENTS 42% FOR THAT

42:41 - LINE. COULD YOU JUST TELL ME A

42:42 - LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WORK THAT

42:43 - THIS OFFICE DOESN'T WHITE NEEDS

42:45 - SUCH A LARGE PERCENTAGE

42:46 - INCREASE COMPARED TO OTHER LINE

42:47 - ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR

42:49 - BUDGET.

42:52 - >>THE COMMISSION ON FAIRNESS

42:56 - AND JUSTICE FORMALLY KNOWN AS

42:57 - THE INNER BRANCH COMMISSION FOR

42:59 - RACIAL GENDER. AND I THINK

43:01 - FAIRNESS, I RECALL CORRECTLY

43:04 - WAS STARTED OVER 2 DECADES AGO.

43:04 - IT IS AN INNER BRANCH

43:08 - COMMISSION.

43:11 - EACH THAT THE GOVERNOR GENERAL

43:13 - ASSEMBLY AND THE JUDICIARY EACH

43:16 - HAVE 8 APPOINTEES TO THE

43:17 - COMMISSION

43:20 - >>I I KNOW THAT THE WORK THAT

43:22 - THEY ARE SOMETIMES DOVETAILS

43:23 - WITH WORK THAT WE ARE DOING

43:28 - ONLINE, WHICH ACCESS AND

43:29 - FACILITATING JURY SERVICE.

43:31 - THEY HAVE A WEBSITE WHERE THEY

43:32 - A POST IT. BUT YOU KNOW,

43:36 - THEY'RE ON OUR LINE ITEM

43:37 - BECAUSE THAT THEY WERE PUT ON

43:39 - OUR LINE DESPITE THEM BEING IN

43:41 - A IN A BRANCH COMMISSION.

43:43 - AND SO MUCH OF WHAT WE DO IS WE

43:44 - WE PASSED THAT MONEY DIRECTLY

43:48 - THROUGH TO THEM I BELIEVE THE

43:50 - REASON FOR THEIR INCREASE IS

43:52 - LARGELY PERSONNEL AND MAYBE A

43:55 - SMALL AMOUNT OF OPERATING WITH

43:56 - RESPECT TO THEIR QUARTERLY

43:58 - MEETINGS.

43:59 - >>I SAID I JUST DOES. IT WAS A

44:01 - HUGE INCREASE IN WONDERED IF

44:02 - WHAT WAS MOVING FORWARD.

44:05 - SO THANK YOU.

44:10 - REPRESENTATIVE ALSO MEANT.

44:16 - THANK YOU, MR.

44:19 - THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

44:20 - ANDREA JUSTICES, THANK YOU FOR

44:24 - BEING HERE THIS AFTERNOON.

44:26 - >>I HAVE THE QUESTION THAT

44:28 - INVOLVE CYBERSECURITY.

44:29 - >>LAST YEAR AT THIS HEARING.

44:35 - WHEN WE DISCUSS CYBER SIT

44:36 - CYBERSECURITY, IT WAS MENTIONED

44:38 - THAT MANY OF THE

44:39 - COMPUTER SYSTEMS FOR THE LOWER

44:40 - COURTS ARE MANAGED BY COUNTY

44:42 - GOVERNMENTS.

44:45 - AND THAT THE SYSTEMS WERE

44:45 - COMING UNDER INCREASING CYBER

44:48 - ATTACKS.

44:49 - COULD YOU PLEASE UPDATE US ON

44:52 - THIS CURRENT SITUATION? THE

44:53 - SITUATION REPRESENTATIVE

44:56 - REMAINS THE SAME AS OUR COUNTY

44:59 - BASED OPERATIONS. SO I THINK

45:01 - THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR COURTS

45:02 - ARE SER SERVED BY THEIR COUNTY.

45:03 - IT DEPARTMENTS WHICH ALSO

45:06 - SERVED THE COUNTY.

45:08 - >>ANY OTHER COUNTY AGENCIES

45:12 - I REFERENCED EARLIER AND I

45:13 - THINK I MENTIONED THIS AT THE

45:13 - HEARING LAST YEAR THAT WE SHARE

45:17 - THAT CONCERN ABOUT INCREASING

45:20 - ATTACKS. THAT IS WHY WE ARE

45:21 - HOSTING THESE 3 REGIONAL

45:23 - SUMMITS THIS SPRING FOR COUNTY

45:27 - COURT LEADERSHIP TO COME

45:28 - TOGETHER WITH COUNTY EXECUTIVE

45:30 - LEADERSHIP. AND WE'RE ASKING

45:31 - PRESIDENT JUDGES TO SET UP A

45:35 - FIVE-MEMBER TEAMS

45:35 - >>THAT WOULD BE INCLUSIVE OF

45:37 - COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, HOW THE

45:41 - IT DIRECTORS SO THAT THEY CAN

45:45 - DISCUSS CYBERSECURITY. THE

45:47 - CURRENT LANDSCAPE AND ENGAGE IN

45:47 - A TABLETOP EXERCISE. THIS IS

45:49 - SOMETHING THAT I BROUGHT BACK

45:52 - MID ATLANTIC CEMENT OF CHIEF

45:54 - JUSTICE IS IN STATE COURT

45:57 - ADMINISTRATOR'S. WE

45:59 - FOUND IT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE

46:03 - BEEN THROUGH MANY, MANY

46:04 - CYBERSECURITY EDUCATION

46:06 - INITIATIVES AT THE STATE LEVEL

46:08 - AND PENETRATION AND

46:09 - VULNERABILITY, IT TESTING YOU

46:10 - CAN NEVER DO ENOUGH. SO I

46:13 - WANTED TO BRING THAT EXPERIENCE

46:14 - BACK TO OUR COUNTY'S COURTS AND

46:17 - COUNTY. IT DIRECTORS.

46:19 - >>JUST FOR MY BENEFIT, DOES THE

46:20 - DID THE COUNTY COURTS CONNECT?

46:24 - TO THE STATE COURTS?

46:26 - >>THROUGH A NETWORK OR THROUGH?

46:30 - YES, I FROM OUR FOR R AND D

46:34 - J SYSTEM AS WELL AS THROUGH

46:35 - OUR COMMON PLEAS SYSTEM WHICH

46:37 - HANDLES CASE MANAGEMENT FOR

46:40 - BOTH CRIMINAL AND JUVENILE

46:41 - COURTS. RIGHT. SO SO THERE'S A

46:42 - NETWORK THAT CONNECTS AND I'M

46:45 - SURE THERE'S E-MAILS THAT GO

46:46 - BACK AND FORTH. THEN ANOTHER

46:49 - MEANS OF ELECTRONIC

46:50 - COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH WHICH

46:53 - ULTIMATELY

46:55 - MEANS THAT.

46:56 - >>THE WEAKEST LINK IS THE MOST

46:57 - SUSCEPTIBLE WAY, TOO. IN FACT,

47:01 - THE ENTIRE WHICH ULTIMATELY

47:04 - IN THE END MEANS THAT, YOU

47:05 - KNOW, WE'RE ALL IN THIS

47:07 - TOGETHER.

47:09 - AND IF YOU HAVE ONE COUNTY,

47:11 - THAT IS AN ACTING

47:15 - APPROPRIATELY, IT COULD

47:15 - ESSENTIALLY EFFECT THE

47:19 - STATEWIDE SYSTEM. SO

47:20 - >>YES, I'M SURE ONE OF THE MANY

47:21 - THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA

47:24 - HIGHLIGHT AT THE STREET, 3

47:25 - REGIONAL SUMMITS, OUR COURT

47:27 - HAS REALLY EMPHASIZED THE NEED

47:30 - FOR CYBER SECURITY, EDUCATION

47:32 - TRAINING AT THE STATE LEVEL.

47:35 - THAT'S OUR PELLA COURT'S

47:39 - APPELLATE COURT STAFF OPC.

47:40 - SO WE ARE NOW ON SORT OF A

47:42 - REGULAR CADENCE OF EDUCATION

47:43 - AND SIMULATED PHISHING THAT

47:46 - PEOPLE ARE EDUCATED NOT TO

47:48 - CLICK ON THAT LINK NOT TO ENTER

47:51 - IN THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION.

47:53 - >>DO YOU GIVE COORDINATE WITH

47:57 - THE COUNTY'S THOSE KINDS OF

47:58 - FISHING DURING DO VERIFY IF

48:01 - THE COUNTIES ARE DOING THOSE

48:02 - FISHING ACTIVITIES AND AT ANY

48:04 - LEVEL WHATSOEVER? NO, THOSE ARE

48:05 - I MEAN, WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN

48:09 - THROUGH THESE CYBERSECURITY

48:10 - REGIONAL SUMMITS. I CAN TELL

48:13 - YOU THAT I WE ARE REGULARLY

48:14 - ENGAGE WITH THE COUNTY

48:15 - COMMISSIONERS ASSOCIATION OF

48:16 - PENNSYLVANIA.

48:18 - >>DISCUSSING THESE MATTERS.

48:20 - BUT THESE IN EFFECT, OUR COUNTY

48:23 - BASE OPERATIONS. YEAH, I MEAN

48:23 - TO ME THAT I'VE DEALT WITH SOME

48:26 - SOME CYBERSECURITY MYSELF AND I

48:30 - WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU'RE NOT

48:31 - ENGAGING, THAT

48:32 - >>A POTENTIAL AREA FOR REAL

48:36 - CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE AND JUST

48:37 - KIND OF LEAVING THE DOOR OPEN,

48:39 - IN MY OPINION. WELL, I THINK AS

48:42 - YOU RIGHTLY PUT IT, IT IS A

48:43 - SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. AND SO

48:44 - WE ARE CERTAINLY DOING WHAT WE

48:47 - NEED TO DO FROM THE COURTSIDE.

48:47 - WE WANT TO BE FULLY ENGAGED

48:49 - WITH OUR COUNTY PARTNERS AS

48:52 - >>ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK

48:52 - YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK THE

48:53 - GENTLEMAN. REPRESENTATIVE KING.

48:56 - >>THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN,

48:57 - THANK YOU, JUSTICE FOR BEING

48:59 - HERE TODAY. I'D BE REMISS IF

49:02 - I DIDN'T GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO

49:04 - THE LAW CLERKS WITHIN THE

49:05 - JUDICIAL SYSTEM. I I STARTED

49:05 - MY CAREER SOME 14 YEARS AGO AS

49:09 - A LAW CLERK FOR

49:10 - THE HONORABLE THE JUDGE, DEBBIE

49:11 - COUNCILMAN, WHO AT THE TIME

49:12 - WAS A DISTRICT JUDGE ARE COMMON

49:16 - PLEAS, JUDGE, RATHER IN BEAVER

49:17 - COUNTY AND IT WAS A FANTASTIC

49:18 - EXPERIENCE. GREAT WAY TO START

49:21 - YOUR LEGAL CAREER. AND I HOPE I

49:22 - DON'T WANT TO ASK THIS

49:23 - QUESTION, BUT I HOPE THEY'RE

49:26 - GETTING PAID MORE. AND THEN YOU

49:27 - ARE GETTING PAID 14 YEARS AGO.

49:28 - BUT JUDGING BY THE

49:29 - CONVERSATIONS TODAY, I HAVE I

49:32 - HAVE MY CONCERNS. THE ACTUAL

49:34 - QUESTIONS I WANT TO GET INTO

49:36 - YOUR BUDGET NARRATIVE MENTIONS

49:39 - THE SUPREME COURT'S CREATION OF

49:41 - AN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE

49:42 - ADVISORY COMMITTEE. DOES THIS

49:42 - STUDY RESPONSIBLE USE OF AI

49:44 - AND UNITED OR EXCUSE ME THE

49:48 - UNIFIED JUDICIAL SYSTEM?

49:49 - COULD YOU SAY WHAT TYPE OF

49:51 - ADVICE HAS THE COMMITTEE

49:52 - OFFERED AND WHERE ARE WE AT

49:56 - WITH THESE MATTERS? THANK YOU,

49:58 - REPRESENTATIVE FOR THAT

49:59 - QUESTION. I'M I'M REALLY

50:02 - HONORED TO BE CHAIRING OUR

50:02 - COURTS. ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE

50:05 - ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH

50:08 - >>A 14 MEMBER GROUP

50:09 - REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPELLATE

50:11 - COURTS OF COMMON PLEAS COURTS.

50:13 - THE MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT, JUDGE

50:14 - COURTS, COURT ADMINISTRATION

50:15 - COUNTY FILING OFFICE SAYS AND

50:20 - OUR RULES COMMITTEE WHEN THE

50:21 - COURT ESTABLISHED THE COMMITTEE

50:25 - IN THE SUMMER OF 2024, WE GOT

50:26 - RIGHT TO WORK. I THINK THE

50:28 - COURT WAS RIGHTLY CONCERNED,

50:30 - AS WAS I ABOUT THE FLOYD OF

50:31 - GUIDANCE. WE WERE STARTING TO

50:33 - SEE A NUMBER OF STATE SUPREME

50:36 - COURT'S IN STATE COURT SYSTEMS,

50:39 - YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE

50:40 - WEREN'T ACTING IN THE VOID IN

50:43 - PARTICULAR WITH RESPECT TO

50:44 - GENERATIVE ARTIFICIAL

50:45 - INTELLIGENCE, WHICH IS MADE UP

50:50 - SO MANY HEADLINES, HALLUCINATED

50:51 - CASES AND AND AND WHAT NOT A

50:54 - PLUS OR SO. THE COMMITTEE DID

50:56 - SUBMIT A PROPOSAL TO THE COURTS

50:58 - AND TURNS OF INTERIM GUIDANCE

51:01 - ON THE USE OF GEN AI BY JUDGES

51:04 - AND COURT STAFF.

51:07 - THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE COURT

51:09 - IN SEPTEMBER OF 2025 AND WENT

51:11 - INTO EFFECT IN DECEMBER.

51:12 - AND IF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE

51:15 - POLICY ARE THIS

51:18 - BE CAREFUL WHEN HE USED AN AI

51:21 - BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE

51:23 - THAT CHEN AI IS USED IN A SAFE

51:25 - AND RESPONSIBLE WAY TO PROTECT

51:26 - THE INTEGRITY AND THE PRESSURE

51:26 - IMPARTIALITY OF THE JUDICIARY.

51:32 - JAN AI IS PERMITTED TO BE USED

51:32 - WHEN DESIGNATED BY LEADERSHIP.

51:39 - A COURT. THAT WOULD BE A

51:39 - PRESIDENT JUDGE IN THE CASE

51:42 - OPC. THAT WOULD BE ME.

51:46 - AND YOU ARE ALLOWED TO USE

51:51 - JANAY. I NON-SECURE SYSTEMS SO

51:52 - THAT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW,

51:52 - CHATGPT OR WHATEVER YOU GET ON

51:53 - YOUR DELL COMPUTER WHEN YOU BUY

51:57 - IT FROM BEST BUY,

51:59 - YOU'RE ALLOWED TO USE CHATGPT

52:02 - TO DO INITIAL DRAFTS OF

52:03 - CORRESPONDENCE TO SUMMARIZE

52:05 - DOCUMENTS AS LONG AS WHAT

52:05 - YOU'RE PUTTING INTO THE JENIN

52:10 - AI TOOL IS IS PUBLIC

52:13 - INFORMATION. WE WANT TO

52:14 - SAFEGUARD THE VAST AMOUNTS OF

52:15 - NON PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT

52:18 - THE PORTS DEAL WITH.

52:21 - AND SO THOSE ARE ONLY ALLOWED

52:22 - TO BE INSECURE SYSTEMS NOW

52:25 - SECURE SYSTEMS ARE BASICALLY

52:27 - LARGE SOFTWARE LICENSES THAT

52:28 - ARE BOUGHT. I'M JUST GOING TO

52:34 - USE THE OPC AS AN EXAMPLE.

52:36 - MICROSOFT LICENSES ARE SET UP

52:37 - THROUGH OUR IT DEPARTMENT AND

52:39 - TO OUR IT DEPARTMENT IS IN THE

52:41 - BACK WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT

52:43 - MAKING SURE THE TERMS AND

52:44 - CONDITIONS THE CONTRACTOR JUST

52:44 - SO IN ALL THE RIGHT LEVERS ARE

52:47 - SWITCHED IN THE RIGHT WAY.

52:50 - AND WE DON'T HAVE SECURE

52:53 - SYSTEMS AT OPC.

52:57 - AND WE DO BECAUSE THE COST IS

53:00 - IT'S LITERALLY DOUBLES THE COST

53:01 - OF THE LICENSE. I APPRECIATE

53:05 - THAT ANSWER. AND I HAVE A

53:05 - OVERALL CONCERN WITH ARTIFICIAL

53:06 - INTELLIGENCE WITHIN THE LEGAL

53:09 - COMMUNITY BROADLY.

53:10 - >>AND I'M CURIOUS, IS THE

53:11 - SUPREME COURT CONSIDERING NEW

53:12 - ETHIC RULES AS IT RELATES TO

53:15 - ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USAGE

53:17 - BY LITIGANTS BY LAWYERS IN

53:20 - GENERAL? I I

53:21 - PERSONALLY HAVE CONCERNS WITH

53:21 - BASICALLY THE UNAUTHORIZED

53:26 - PRACTICE OF LAW

53:28 - WITH ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE

53:29 - JUST TO MANIPULATING BRIEFS OR

53:30 - OR CREATING BRIEFS OR CREATING

53:33 - DOCUMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE

53:35 - THAT. AND ON THAT, I SEE MY

53:35 - LIGHTS COMING. SO I'LL LET YOU

53:37 - ANSWER AFTER I'VE A TWOFOLD

53:39 - QUESTION. IS THERE A NEED FOR

53:42 - THE LEGISLATURE TO OFFER RULES

53:43 - IN AND OF ITSELF AS IT RELATES

53:44 - TO ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED

53:46 - IN THE LEGAL FIELD.

53:48 - >>YOU MIGHT GET 2 DIFFERENT

53:50 - ANSWERS FROM 2 DIFFERENT

53:51 - JUSTICES ON THIS. AND I JUST

53:53 - SPOKE ABOUT THIS AT THE COUNTY

53:53 - CONFERENCE UP. OUR EXECUTIVES

53:57 - IN STATE COLLEGE

53:58 - >>YOU KNOW, I'M OLD ENOUGH.

53:59 - YOU'RE NOT. I'M OLD ENOUGH TO

54:01 - REMEMBER WHEN EMAIL CAME OUT

54:02 - WHEN WES LAW CAME OUT AND WENT,

54:03 - ALL THE LAWYERS WERE PANICKING

54:05 - ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE WEST

54:06 - BOOKS, YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE

54:07 - TO COME OFF THE SHELF ANYMORE

54:08 - AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WES LAW

54:09 - WAS ITS OWN VERSION OF AI AND

54:12 - THE TIME SOME LONGTIME

54:13 - PRACTITIONERS WERE MAKING THE

54:15 - SAME ARGUMENTS ABOUT WEST LAW

54:16 - THAT THEY'RE MAKING ABOUT

54:17 - GENDER. THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

54:18 - I THINK GENERALLY THEY I IS

54:20 - HERE TO STAY. I THINK IT'S

54:24 - INCREDIBLY POWERFUL TOOL AND

54:26 - PARTICULARLY FOR PRO SE

54:28 - LITIGANTS WHO CAN'T AFFORD

54:30 - ATTORNEYS THEIR USE. JENNER OF

54:31 - AI TO CREATE SOMEWHAT OF A

54:32 - READABLE DOCUMENT. ALTHOUGH WE

54:33 - DO GET SOME GOOD PRESS 8 PEOPLE

54:37 - WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN

54:40 - THE ROAD OF ADOPTING ETHICS

54:41 - RULES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

54:42 - I THINK THERE WILL BE

54:42 - DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS. BUT

54:45 - I WOULD SAY THIS.

54:47 - THE SAME RULES APPLY TO A

54:48 - LAWYER WHO'S USING GENERATIVE

54:49 - AI. THAT APPLIES TO A LAWYER

54:50 - THAT ISN'T USING IT. WHEN YOU

54:52 - SIGN YOUR NAME TO THAT

54:55 - DOCUMENT, I AM ASSUMING AS AN

54:56 - OFFICER OF THE COURT, YOU ARE

54:56 - REPRESENTING TO US THAT YOU

54:59 - HAVE READ THAT YOU DID. IT

54:59 - REPRESENTS YOUR WORK AND YOU

55:02 - STAND BY. WHAT'S THERE?

55:03 - WEATHER AND I I'VE BEEN AROUND

55:04 - JUST THE STOCK HAS BEEN AROUND

55:07 - FOR A WHILE

55:08 - I HAD PLENTY OF BRIEFS WHEN I

55:10 - WAS ON THE COMMONWEALTH COURT

55:11 - WHERE LAWYERS WOULD SAY CASES

55:11 - THAT DIDN'T SAY WHAT THEY SAID.

55:13 - AND WERE LAWYERS WOULD SAY

55:14 - CASES THAT DIDN'T EVEN EXIST.

55:18 - LOOSE. THE NATION'S HAPPENED

55:19 - BEFORE A GENERATIVE AI AND

55:20 - THEY'RE GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER

55:22 - WORK. AND I THINK THE BOTTOM

55:23 - LINE IS IF YOU ARE A LAWYER AND

55:25 - YOU PUT YOUR NAME ON A DOCUMENT

55:26 - DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO ME

55:26 - MUCH WHERE THEY USE. GENERATIVE

55:30 - AI ARE USED IN ASSOCIATE.

55:31 - I EXPECT YOU TO STAND BY THAT

55:31 - WORK PRODUCT. AND IF IT'S NOT

55:32 - UP TO SNUFF, YOU'RE GOING TO

55:34 - HEAR ABOUT IT.

55:34 - >>RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE'RE JUST

55:38 - DOING IS

55:41 - UPDATING OUR VERIFICATION FORM.

55:42 - IF YOU REMEMBER, YOU JUST HAVE

55:42 - TO SIGN EVERY DO YOUR PLEADINGS

55:45 - ARE TRUE AND CORRECT. IT.

55:47 - NOW WE'RE JUST ADDING THE

55:47 - LANGUAGE. IF YOU USE ARTIFICIAL

55:48 - INTELLIGENCE THAT IT IS AND IN

55:52 - FACT, VERIFIED AND I JUST

55:53 - RECENTLY THERE WAS A JUDGE,

55:54 - THERESA FEDERAL JUDGE WHO JUST

55:56 - A HELD A LAWYER AND CONTENT.

55:59 - WE'RE SUBMITTING BRIEFS.

56:00 - AND THEY WERE HALLUCINATING.

56:01 - THE BREEZE BASED UPON CASES

56:05 - THAT DIDN'T EXIST. SO I AM THE

56:05 - SIDE OF JUSTICE PROMPTING THAT

56:07 - DISAGREES WITH THEM

56:09 - NECESSARILY. I DO HAVE A

56:09 - CONCERN ABOUT IT. AND IT USED

56:11 - VERY SIMILAR TO YOU. I THINK IT

56:14 - CAN BE ABUSED.

56:16 - WHEN WE ARE HANDLING OUR CASES.

56:17 - AND WE'RE READING BOX HILL

56:19 - BRIEFS. I CAN TELL YOU MY LAW

56:22 - CLERKS AND I ARE NOT

56:23 - JEOPARDIZING GET YOU EVERY ONE

56:25 - OF THOSE CASES. SO WE DO HAVE

56:28 - TO

56:29 - HAVE SOME A MAN OF A PICKLE

56:31 - CONCERN OR CONSIDERATION WITH

56:31 - REGARD LAWYERS. THE MISSION.

56:34 - >>THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR

56:37 - BEING HERE TODAY. THANK YOU,

56:38 - MR. CHAIRMAN, THANKS,

56:39 - GENTLEMEN. CHAIRMAN STIRS AND

56:40 - THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN HARRIS.

56:42 - >>SO JUST WANT TO REITERATE

56:43 - SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT I

56:46 - MENTIONED EARLIER.

56:50 - THE GOVERNOR HAS PROPOSED

56:50 - GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATIONS FOR

56:53 - THE JUDICIARY OF ROUGHLY ABOUT

56:56 - 500 MILLION DOLLARS. I MAY HAVE

56:57 - SAID 50 EARLIER. THAT'S

56:58 - SOMEWHAT OFF. BUT CLEARLY

57:01 - 500 MILLION.

57:04 - BUT THE JUDICIARY IS AND THAT

57:05 - THEIR INITIAL REQUEST WAS FOR

57:08 - 518 MILLION DOLLARS.

57:10 - SO ESSENTIALLY THE GOVERNOR'S

57:12 - PROPOSAL UNDER FUNDS THE

57:12 - JUDICIARY BY ABOUT 18 MILLION

57:15 - DOLLARS. AS WE SAW THIS MORNING

57:20 - WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

57:21 - SIMILARLY, THE PROPOSAL THAT

57:23 - THE ATTORNEY GENERAL PUT

57:24 - FORWARD WAS 19 MILLION MORE

57:29 - THAN WHAT THE GOVERNOR AS

57:30 - SUSPEND NUMBER. NOW, OBVIOUSLY,

57:32 - WE'RE CONCERNED WITH THE

57:32 - OVERALL SPEND. BUT AS I SAID

57:35 - EARLIER THIS MORNING, I THINK

57:36 - THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDAMENTAL

57:37 - NATURE OF WHAT WE DO IS TO MAKE

57:40 - SURE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND

57:41 - THE COURT SYSTEM ARE ADEQUATELY

57:44 - FUNDED YET.

57:45 - THE SPENDING PROPOSAL PUT FORTH

57:47 - BY THE GOVERNOR AND OR FUNDS

57:50 - JUDICIARY OUR COURTS BY

57:50 - 18 MILLION IN THE ATTORNEY

57:52 - GENERAL'S OFFICE BY 19 MILLION.

57:55 - MY IS, IS IF YOU DO NOT GET

57:55 - THAT ADDITIONAL 18 MILLION THAT

57:57 - YOU HAVE REQUESTED, WHAT ARE

58:00 - THE CONSEQUENCES?

58:12 - I THINK. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THAT

58:13 - IS.

58:13 - >>FISCAL CLIFF IS SOMETIMES

58:16 - THROWN AROUND A LITTLE BIT TOO

58:19 - MUCH. BUT IN OUR CASE WE HAVE

58:21 - BEEN PLAYING CATCH-UP FOR

58:22 - SEVERAL YEARS NOW TO TRY AND

58:23 - GET OUR GENERAL FUND

58:24 - APPROPRIATION TO WHERE IT NEEDS

58:25 - TO BE TO REPRESENT WHAT WE

58:28 - BELIEVE ARE THE TRUE COST OF

58:30 - OF PROVIDING A STRONG JUDICIAL

58:31 - SYSTEM TO THE PEOPLE OF

58:32 - PENNSYLVANIA THAT 3RD BRANCH

58:36 - OF GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE BEEN

58:36 - ABLE TO DO WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE

58:40 - TO DO.

58:41 - >>WITH LESS IN OUR GENERAL FUND

58:41 - APPROPRIATION THAT WE WOULD

58:43 - OTHERWISE HAVE BECAUSE OF THE

58:43 - AT 49 FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN

58:46 - AVAILABLE.

58:47 - THAT WILL NO LONGER BE THE CASE

58:48 - AT SOME POINT IN TIME. VERY

58:50 - SOON.

58:54 - AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THERE ARE

58:56 - CERTAIN PROGRAMMATIC

58:57 - CONSEQUENCES TO THAT. THERE ARE

58:58 - REAL PEOPLE CONSEQUENCES TO

58:59 - THAT. THEIR SERVICE PART OF

59:00 - THEIR ACCESS TO JUSTICE

59:01 - CONSEQUENCES TO THAT AND OUR

59:05 - COUNTY LEVELS

59:05 - IN PARTICULAR.

59:06 - >>WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE SOME

59:08 - INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT DECISIONS

59:09 - THAT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE

59:12 - TO MAKE.

59:12 - >>THAT'S WHY OUR BUDGET THAT

59:16 - WE PROPOSE REPRESENTS WHAT WE

59:18 - BELIEVE. THE TRUE COSTS ARE

59:20 - BEING A FISCAL STEWARDS

59:20 - UNDERSTANDING THAT ACCEPTS THE

59:21 - HAS U.S. AT 49, A 60 MILLION

59:23 - DOLLARS CEILING WHICH WE CAN

59:24 - TAP. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER

59:25 - FUNDS THAT WE CAN GET

59:27 - SUPPLEMENT. OUR GENERAL FUND

59:29 - APPROPRIATION. WE THINK IT'S A

59:30 - RESPONSIBLE BUDGET AND WE WOULD

59:33 - CERTAINLY ASK THE GENERAL

59:34 - ASSEMBLY CONSIDER FULLY FUNDING

59:36 - THAT REQUEST BY. I APPRECIATE

59:37 - THAT. AND AS AS YOU WE KNOW

59:40 - THAT THIS THE BEGINNING BUDGET

59:41 - NEGOTIATIONS MOVING FORWARD.

59:44 - I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE

59:46 - TODAY.

59:46 - >>I THINK, THOUGH,

59:47 - FUNDAMENTALLY WE SHOULD BE

59:47 - FUNDING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WE

59:48 - SHOULD BE FUNDING OUR COURT

59:51 - SYSTEM.

59:52 - BASED ON YOUR REQUEST, KNOWING

59:53 - THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT THE NEEDS

59:55 - ARE WHEN WE DON'T AND I'M NOT

59:56 - MAKING ANY INFERENCE IS.

59:56 - BUT I THINK THE NUMBERS SPEAK

59:57 - FOR THEMSELVES. SO THANK YOU

59:58 - 865 ALL FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU.

01:00 - 03.666 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

01:00 - 04.300 JUSTICES. I DO HAVE A FEW

01:00 - 06.903 QUESTIONS BEFORE WE WRAP FOR

01:00 - 07.203 TODAY.

01:00 - 09.372 >>I HAVE I SLIGHTLY DISAGREE.

01:00 - 12.709 ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT.

01:00 - 15.745 AND YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW HOW I

01:00 - 16.412 FEEL ABOUT THIS AND JUST SAY

01:00 - 17.113 PUBLICLY, YOU KNOW, I HONESTLY

01:00 - 19.916 DO NOT BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE

01:00 - 21.884 USED AT 49 DOLLARS IN OUR

01:00 - 26.522 BUDGET AT ALL. I THINK IT IS.

01:00 - 29.325 IT IS A BARRIER TO JUSTICE AND

01:00 - 33.329 ALSO BELIEVE IT'S A

01:00 - 35.131 CONTRADICTION IN A SENSE

01:00 - 35.865 IN A PERFECT WORLD. I WOULD SAY

01:00 - 41.371 WE SHOULD FULLY FUND THE COURT.

01:00 - 42.038 AND ANY ACT. 49 DOLLARS THAT

01:00 - 42.705 ARE GENERATED COULD BE JUST

01:00 - 48.077 SENT BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND

01:00 - 49.145 BUT FOR ME, I JUST TOTALLY

01:00 - 52.882 BELIEVE WE SHOULD NOT BE USING

01:00 - 53.449 FINES AND FEES TO HELP

01:00 - 56.719 STABILIZE THE COURT SYSTEM.

01:00 - 59.789 AND WE SHOULD JUST FUND THE

01:00 - 02.558 COURT SYSTEM IS NECESSARY IF WE

01:01 - 04.594 WERE TO DO THAT AND GET RID OF

01:01 - 07.130 YOU STABILIZE ING THE COURTS

01:01 - 10.299 BUDGET AT 49 FEES. WHAT WOULD

01:01 - 11.634 THE NUMBER OF THE NECESSARY

01:01 - 14.771 FROM THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO

01:01 - 18.241 ACTUALLY DO THAT.

01:01 - 20.143 >>60 MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE

01:01 - 20.743 THAT'S WHAT, 60 MILLION

01:01 - 22.278 DOLLARS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE

01:01 - 26.215 WE PROJECT WE'RE GOING TO BE

01:01 - 27.183 USING IN FISCAL YEAR 26.

01:01 - 27.450 27.

01:01 - 28.484 >>NOW IS THAT 60 MILLION ON

01:01 - 32.355 TOP OF THE 18 MILLION? YOU'RE

01:01 - 33.389 ASKED THE IS A DIFFERENCE.

01:01 - 35.358 >>IT'S IN A DISH OF WELL, NOW

01:01 - 36.025 IT'S THE 6. IT WOULD BE

01:01 - 36.659 CHAIRMAN. IT WOULD BE OUR

01:01 - 39.295 GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATION

01:01 - 40.697 REQUEST.

01:01 - 41.497 WELL, A 60 MILLION ON TOP OF

01:01 - 42.198 THAT. THAT WOULD REPLACE WHAT

01:01 - 45.001 WE'RE COUNTING ON FOR AT 49.

01:01 - 48.104 WE'RE AT AN AVERAGE 78 MILLION.

01:01 - 51.040 THERE WASN'T. ALRIGHT 178.

01:01 - 51.541 I WANT TO SEND IT

01:01 - 53.910 >>SO BE 78 MILLION. IN ADDITION

01:01 - 54.510 TO WHAT THE GOVERNOR HAS

01:01 - 57.013 PROPOSED. IS THAT CORRECT?

01:01 - 06.189 THAT'S CORRECT.

01:02 - 08.057 AND THEN WE COULD JUST SEND THE

01:02 - 09.092 WHATEVER'S COLLECTED FROM ACT.

01:02 - 09.692 47, YOU GUYS WILL BE IN

01:02 - 10.359 AGREEMENT THAT WE COULD JUST

01:02 - 13.730 SEND IT TO THE GENERAL FUND

01:02 - 17.133 IF WE BEGIN TO FUND AT THIS

01:02 - 20.636 LEVEL. BACK TO COURT. I THINK

01:02 - 21.337 YOU WILL. THERE'S TIME TO MAKE

01:02 - 23.673 A CONNECTION. YOU'RE BALLPARK.

01:02 - 26.743 FAIR ENOUGH? OK, I'M I

01:02 - 27.944 UNDERSTOOD.

01:02 - 31.080 I'M ALWAYS SAID THAT. I MEAN,

01:02 - 37.987 I THINK.

01:02 - 38.588 AND THERE COULD BE. SOME

01:02 - 39.288 MODIFICATIONS LIKE, YOU KNOW,

01:02 - 42.625 FALLING DIFFERENT CASES, STUFF

01:02 - 43.259 LIKE THAT. BUT JUST TO ME.

01:02 - 45.962 IT SEEMS TO INCENTIVIZE THE

01:02 - 48.264 NECESSITY.

01:02 - 52.635 FINES IN ORDER TO HELP. AND

01:02 - 53.369 I JUST I THINK AS A CO-EQUAL

01:02 - 56.105 BRANCH, WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD

01:02 - 57.940 AND FUND THE COURT SYSTEM AS A

01:02 - 00.676 COEQUAL BRANCH AND JUST PROCEED

01:03 - 03.045 FROM THERE. SO THE ACCESS TO

01:03 - 04.113 JUSTICE IS NOT A BARRIER FOR

01:03 - 08.451 ANYONE. SO THAT'S JUST MY

01:03 - 11.087 PERSONAL YOU AN OPINION

01:03 - 13.689 AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD DO

01:03 - 15.758 THAT. I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS DO

01:03 - 17.393 COURTS SPECIAL SESSIONS IN THE

01:03 - 20.696 COMMUNITY FROM TIME TO TIME.

01:03 - 21.364 I WANTED TO ASK YOU MAKES A

01:03 - 23.499 DETERMINATION FOR WHERE THOSE

01:03 - 26.569 SPECIAL SESSIONS HAPPENED AND

01:03 - 28.137 THINGS OF THAT NATURE

01:03 - 29.539 I'VE BEEN ON THIS COURT.

01:03 - 32.375 THIS WILL BE MY 11TH YEAR AND

01:03 - 33.209 WE ONLY DID ONE SPECIAL

01:03 - 34.143 SESSION.

01:03 - 37.180 >>AND THAT WAS IN LUZERNE

01:03 - 40.216 COUNTY. AND THAT WAS THAT HE

01:03 - 40.850 HAS THE VAR CHIEF JUSTICE.

01:03 - 41.584 WE USUALLY SAID TWICE A YEAR IN

01:03 - 43.753 PHILADELPHIA, HARRISBURG AND

01:03 - 45.688 PITTSBURGH.

01:03 - 47.590 >>I WILL SAY THIS CHAIRMAN AND

01:03 - 50.593 I'LL SHOUT OUT TO JUDGE THE

01:03 - 51.594 BILL IS AS IN THE BACK OF THE

01:03 - 52.195 CHAMBER, REPRESENTATIVES

01:03 - 52.895 SUPERIOR COURT DISAPPEAR WHERE

01:03 - 54.831 TRAVEL IS VALID VERY FREQUENTLY

01:03 - 57.900 INTO OUR COMMUNITIES DOING

01:03 - 58.835 REGULAR PANEL SESSIONS FOR THAT

01:03 - 59.669 COURT. AND I KNOW THE

01:03 - 00.369 COMMONWEALTH COURT AS WELL ON

01:04 - 03.739 OCCASION WILL GET IN BUT

01:04 - 04.707 INVITED TO GO TO COUNTIES.

01:04 - 05.441 2 SAID. AND I THINK THAT THAT I

01:04 - 06.175 THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL. I ENJOY

01:04 - 07.877 DOING THAT WHEN I WAS ON THE

01:04 - 11.547 COMMONWEALTH COURT AS WELL.

01:04 - 12.248 SO I KUDOS TO OUR INTERMEDIATE

01:04 - 12.949 APPELLATE COURTS FOR BEING OUT

01:04 - 14.584 THERE IN THE COMMUNITIES WHEN

01:04 - 15.484 THEY CAN'T.

01:04 - 17.486 >>AND WHO MAKES THOSE DECISIONS

01:04 - 19.522 ON THOSE LOCATIONS. SO WHEN I

01:04 - 21.524 WAS ON THE COMMONWEALTH COURT,

01:04 - 22.558 IT WOULD USUALLY BE AN

01:04 - 23.259 INVITATION FROM THE COUNTY BAR

01:04 - 23.926 ASSOCIATION'S OR SOME OTHER

01:04 - 26.395 PERSON WOULD INVITE THE COURT

01:04 - 27.663 TO COMMENTS. IT IS A SPECIAL

01:04 - 27.997 SESSION.

01:04 - 29.031 >>AND ASSUMING HE COULD BE FIT

01:04 - 29.765 INTO THE COURT SCHEDULED, THERE

01:04 - 32.068 WERE VERY FEW TIMES WHERE WE

01:04 - 35.137 DECLINED THE REQUEST. SO LET'S

01:04 - 36.138 SAY.

01:04 - 37.840 >>CHEYNEY UNIVERSITY IN THE

01:04 - 40.643 NATION'S FIRST HBCU.

01:04 - 42.612 >>WANTED TO HAVE THE SUPERIOR

01:04 - 43.646 COURT OR THE COMMON PLEAS COURT

01:04 - 48.050 HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION THERE.

01:04 - 50.152 HOW THEY GO ABOUT I WOULD

01:04 - 51.287 SUGGEST THAT CHENEY UNIVERSITY

01:04 - 51.854 WRITE A LETTER TO THE

01:04 - 52.521 PRESIDENT, JUDGE OF BOTH OR

01:04 - 53.623 EITHER PORTS AND INVITE THEM TO

01:04 - 54.190 SPECIAL SESSION OF THE

01:04 - 55.691 UNIVERSE.

01:04 - 02.465 >>BUT OR MAKING UNIVERSITY?

01:05 - 03.132 WE'RE 10 OR TEMPLE. YEAH, I

01:05 - 03.766 LOVE TEMPLE. BOTH OF THOSE

01:05 - 06.335 TAKEN. BUT, YOU KNOW, GO OWLS.

01:05 - 08.671 >>OK, DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL BE

01:05 - 16.178 HERE NEXT WEEK. AS A SYMBOL OF

01:05 - 19.115 I ASK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THESE

01:05 - 22.218 ARE HISTORICALLY A BLACK

01:05 - 23.019 COLLEGE UNIVERSITIES,

01:05 - 23.786 QUITE HONESTLY, YOU KNOW,

01:05 - 25.588 DEPENDING ON WHO YOU X, ONE IS

01:05 - 26.289 GOING TO SAY WAS THE FIRST TO

01:05 - 29.392 KNOW. I TYPICALLY DON'T GET

01:05 - 30.593 INTO THE CHENEY LINKIN

01:05 - 36.432 ARGUMENT. I WILL SAY, THOUGH,

01:05 - 37.133 BOTH HAVE A HISTORIC

01:05 - 41.804 REPUTATIONS. I THINK I THURGOOD

01:05 - 44.240 MARSHALL. TO LINCOLN I JUST

01:05 - 45.975 THINK IT WILL BE AMAZING TO

01:05 - 50.146 HAVE ONE OF OUR COURTS SIT ON

01:05 - 51.881 THE SAME CAMPUS THAT THE FIRST

01:05 - 54.083 AFRICAN-AMERICAN SUPREME COURT

01:05 - 55.685 JUSTICE OF THIS COUNTRY WENT

01:05 - 57.486 TO. I JUST THINK THAT WILL BE

01:05 - 59.488 A PHENOMENAL EXPERIENCE FOR ALL

01:05 - 03.326 OF US TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE

01:06 - 03.926 THAT ON THE CAMPUS OF OF

01:06 - 04.627 LINCOLN UNIVERSE. AND I'M SURE

01:06 - 07.096 THE CHAIRMAN'S LETTER HEAD

01:06 - 08.965 WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

01:06 - 11.801 >>A LETTER SENT TO A NEW SET OF

01:06 - 12.501 ACTED BUT OKAY OF JUST SAY THE

01:06 - 17.273 MORE WE CAN VISIT, THEY, YOU

01:06 - 17.907 KNOW. YOU KNOW, THE MORE I

01:06 - 20.109 THINK WE GET OUR COURTS INTO

01:06 - 22.244 OUR COMMUNITES THINK

01:06 - 23.846 >>IT JUST BUILDS THE BILLS ON

01:06 - 24.513 MORE FOLKS UNDERSTANDING AND

01:06 - 27.383 KNOWING AND TRUSTING AND

01:06 - 29.118 WANTING

01:06 - 29.885 TO BE INVOLVED. AND, YOU KNOW,

01:06 - 31.721 I'M A I'M A FORMER SCHOOL

01:06 - 32.855 TEACHER AND I'VE SAID THIS

01:06 - 35.057 BEFORE, THERE IS SOMETHING

01:06 - 37.626 SPECIAL ABOUT THAT MOMENT THAT

01:06 - 39.562 A YOUNG PERSON GETS IT

01:06 - 40.329 UNDERSTANDS AND IT'S LIKE AN

01:06 - 41.030 ILLUMINATION. AND IT'S REALLY

01:06 - 42.932 LIKE YOU DO SEE A LIGHT GO OFF

01:06 - 44.667 IN THEIR HEAD. AND I JUST

01:06 - 46.469 WONDER HOW MANY YOUNG PEOPLE

01:06 - 48.938 IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO

01:06 - 50.439 SEE WHAT YOU ALL DO EVERY DAY.

01:06 - 52.174 HOW MANY YOUNG PEOPLE SAY, YOU

01:06 - 52.808 KNOW WHAT? I NEVER THOUGHT

01:06 - 53.442 ABOUT THIS. THIS COULD BE

01:06 - 00.016 SOMETHING I WANT TO DO. SO.

01:07 - 00.649 JUST THAT SPEAKING OF THAT

01:07 - 03.019 INTERNSHIPS IN AND IN THE COURT

01:07 - 04.520 SYSTEM WHO IS THERE A CENTRAL

01:07 - 07.423 COORDINATION FOR THAT? HOW DOES

01:07 - 08.758 THAT WORK? I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF

01:07 - 11.460 YOU DO DO WE DO INTERNSHIPS?

01:07 - 12.194 HOW DOES THAT WORK? WHERE WOULD

01:07 - 15.331 WE LOOK LIKE FOR INTERNSHIPS

01:07 - 18.567 TO GET? I COULD I COULD SHARE

01:07 - 19.201 WITH YOU THE F-K DID. THE

01:07 - 19.869 PHILADELPHIA SYSTEM HAS ITS

01:07 - 20.536 OWN INTERNSHIP AND THERE'S A

01:07 - 22.271 PARTICULAR COMMON PLEAS COURT

01:07 - 22.838 JUDGE. THAT'S A SIGN.

01:07 - 24.673 >>I PARTICIPATED IN THAT THE 15

01:07 - 25.775 YEARS I WAS IN COMMON PLEAS,

01:07 - 28.844 THE SUPREME COURT. WE DO HAVE

01:07 - 30.046 SOME

01:07 - 31.480 RENTERS. OKAY. AND I I HAVE

01:07 - 32.114 TO FIND OUT WE USUALLY GET

01:07 - 34.583 REFERRED BY. THE CHIEF JUSTICE

01:07 - 35.217 WILL TELL US THEIR SUMMER

01:07 - 38.187 INTERNSHIPS AND IT USUALLY BY

01:07 - 39.722 WORD OF MOUTH. OKAY. I WILL ASK

01:07 - 42.858 IF WHENEVER THAT HAPPENS, IF

01:07 - 45.661 YOU CAN, LET US KNOW CHAIRMAN

01:07 - 46.295 AND THE PULLEN ELSE IS NOT

01:07 - 46.996 HERE, BUT HE CHAIRS THE CAUSE

01:07 - 48.898 OF A LEGISLATIVE BLACK CAUCUS.

01:07 - 50.933 I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN

01:07 - 52.468 SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE

01:07 - 53.335 SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING IN AND

01:07 - 54.837 OUT. SO WE HAVE A DIVERSE POOL

01:07 - 57.873 OF CANDIDATES AND WEEK 8 OPEN

01:07 - 58.541 AN EXPOSE MORE OF OUR YOUNG

01:07 - 00.342 PEOPLE, OUR VIEW AND ALSO I

01:08 - 04.613 DON'T KNOW WHO I KNOW. THERE'S

01:08 - 07.683 AURORA, PENNSYLVANIA,

01:08 - 08.184 >>BUT I WOULD

01:08 - 08.884 EVEN WONDER THE MAZDA LIKE I'M

01:08 - 10.453 FROM PHILLY FOR PITTSBURGH

01:08 - 14.123 FLICK. WE KNOW HAVE ACCESS TO A

01:08 - 14.790 LOT OF THINGS TO ME. SOME OF

01:08 - 15.291 OUR FOLKS IN RURAL

01:08 - 16.125 PENNSYLVANIA, SOME OF THOSE

01:08 - 18.794 YOUNG PEOPLE I THINK WILL BE

01:08 - 19.762 EXTREMELY INTERESTED AND

01:08 - 21.931 INTERNSHIPS AS WELL IN OUR

01:08 - 23.265 COURT SYSTEM. SO IF YOU COULD

01:08 - 24.767 SHARE SOME OF THE INFORMATION

01:08 - 25.434 WITH US, WE WOULD BE GLAD TO

01:08 - 29.138 HELP PROMOTE THAT KIND OF STUFF

01:08 - 34.643 AS WELL.

01:08 - 37.146 >>HOW

01:08 - 37.780 >>ARE WE WORKING WITH? MY

01:08 - 42.551 FAVORITE TOPIC TO TALK ABOUT?

01:08 - 43.185 A CLEAN SLATE. HOW ARE WE

01:08 - 44.553 WORKING? WE CLEAN SLATE

01:08 - 47.256 CURRENTLY. I KNOW IN THE PAST

01:08 - 48.958 WE'VE HAD SOME WORK THAT WE

01:08 - 49.625 NEED TO DO WITH THE FBI AND

01:08 - 51.427 WITT STATE POLICE AND WORK AND

01:08 - 52.094 WORK THROUGH THOSE PROBLEMS.

01:08 - 55.231 WHERE ARE WE NOW? WHAT WOULD

01:08 - 00.069 CLEAN SLATE?

01:09 - 01.170 >>THE MPC. SO AND THE COURT

01:09 - 01.871 VERY MUCH APPRECIATES THE

01:09 - 04.673 PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU. CHAIRMAN

01:09 - 07.710 HARRIS ON THIS ISSUE.

01:09 - 08.777 >>IT'S BEEN

01:09 - 10.880 INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL. WE'VE

01:09 - 12.815 COORDINATED WITH STATE POLICE

01:09 - 15.751 AND BOARD OF PARDONS DOING THIS

01:09 - 16.385 SIGNIFICANT RICO. DING HIM

01:09 - 17.019 REPROGRAMMING THAT'S BEEN

01:09 - 19.088 NECESSARY UNDER CLEAN SLATE.

01:09 - 19.889 1,

01:09 - 22.691 2, 3, AT A COST. WE ESTIMATE OF

01:09 - 23.792 6.2 MILLION TO THE JUDICIAL

01:09 - 26.896 COMPUTER SYSTEM WHICH WE

01:09 - 32.334 ABSORBED

01:09 - 35.037 >>AS AS MY VANTAGE POINT, WE

01:09 - 35.671 HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE ACTS

01:09 - 39.675 FULLY. IF THERE ARE ISSUES THAT

01:09 - 41.544 YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OR THAT

01:09 - 42.178 THERE ARE OTHER, YOU KNOW,

01:09 - 44.180 CONSTITUENCIES ARE CONCERNED

01:09 - 44.847 ABOUT. WE'RE ALWAYS WELL,

01:09 - 45.481 COMING UP A CONVERSATION.

01:09 - 47.516 I LOOK AT A POINT OF PERSONAL

01:09 - 47.816 PRIDE

01:09 - 49.018 >>MYSELF, MY COLLEAGUE,

01:09 - 52.188 REPRESENTATIVE LOESCHER HAVE

01:09 - 52.721 BEEN AT THAT WORK ON

01:09 - 55.991 CLEAN SLATE NOW JUST 2026 ABOUT

01:09 - 59.128 10 YEARS AND I THINK WE'RE UP

01:09 - 03.632 TO 55 MILLION.

01:10 - 05.801 >>57.6 MILLION CASES AS OF

01:10 - 07.703 JANUARY AND OVER 82 MILLION

01:10 - 08.737 CENSUS. AND NONE OF THAT WOULD

01:10 - 10.739 HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE

01:10 - 11.707 JUDICIAL COMPUTER SYSTEM.

01:10 - 14.777 IN FACT, I JUST LEARNED LAST

01:10 - 17.580 WEEK THAT ILLINOIS PASSED ITS

01:10 - 18.113 FIRST PLACE AT SLATE

01:10 - 19.515 LEGISLATION. WELL, AND BECAUSE

01:10 - 22.618 THEY DON'T HAVE A STATEWIDE

01:10 - 23.319 SYSTEM, THEY HAVE APPROPRIATED

01:10 - 26.689 18 MILLION DOLLARS JUST TO GET

01:10 - 29.892 THAT FIRST BASED ON WHY.

01:10 - 31.961 >>I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS A

01:10 - 32.661 REQUEST FOR MONEY ON A SLIGHT

01:10 - 33.862 UPTICK IN IT, WHICH BUT BUT NO

01:10 - 36.065 SERIOUSLY, IT'S IT'S I THINK

01:10 - 36.732 THAT WHILE A SUCCESSFUL AND

01:10 - 39.868 SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ALL OVER

01:10 - 40.903 THE COUNTRY ARE FALLING AND

01:10 - 41.604 I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE

01:10 - 46.075 WITHOUT THE PARTNERSHIP THAT

01:10 - 49.144 WE HAVE WITH THE JUDICIARY AND

01:10 - 50.179 YOU ALL THE

01:10 - 50.879 OTHER FOLKS, DAMON WHO AND I'M

01:10 - 54.116 SURE I'VE CALLED MORE THAN HE'S

01:10 - 54.783 WANTED ME TO OVER THE YEARS.

01:10 - 58.887 BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WHAT

01:10 - 59.588 I THINK HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY

01:10 - 02.391 IN HELPING PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE

01:11 - 03.158 THING. SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

01:11 - 08.530 AND WITH THAT, I AM FINISH AND

01:11 - 09.164 I THINK THAT WILL CONCLUDE

01:11 - 11.934 OUR HEARING TODAY WITH THE

01:11 - 14.303 JUDICIARY.

01:11 - 17.406 I IN WE WILL BE BACK HERE.

01:11 - 20.109 TOMORROW.

01:11 - 23.312 AT 10:00AM FOR OUR HEARING WITH

01:11 - 23.979 LABOR AND INDUSTRY. AND WITH

01:11 - 26.115 THAT, I THINK JUSTICE DAUGHERTY

01:11 - 30.152 JUST AS BROBSON ON COURT

01:11 - 30.819 ADMINISTRATOR AND ALL UP THE

01:11 - 32.588 MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY FOR

01:11 - 34.156 BEING HERE WITH US THIS

01:11 - 34.857 AFTERNOON. THIS WILL CONCLUDE

01:11 - 37.893 OUR BUDGET HEARING WITH THE

01:11 - 04.720 JUDICIARY.