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Budget: Environmental Protection Department and Conservation & Natural Resources Department

PA House Appropriations Committee budget hearing with the PA Environmental Protection Department and PA Conservation & Natural Resources Department

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00:07 - >>IN GENERAL FUND, SPEND 182.8

00:10 - MILLION AND INCREASE OF 56.1

00:14 - MILLION OR 44.3%. ALTHOUGH WE

00:15 - DO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THAT IS

00:17 - COMING FROM THE OIL AND GAS

00:18 - LEASE FUND. SO WE'D EXPECT SOME

00:19 - ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT.

00:21 - WE HAVE A LOT TO GET THROUGH.

00:22 - I KNOW THERE'S ALL ABOUT DATA

00:22 - RELATED TO THE PERMITTING

00:25 - PROCESSES AND EVERYTHING

00:27 - HAPPENING HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA

00:29 - WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL

00:32 - RESOURCES AND ALL THE

00:32 - OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COMING

00:33 - OUR WAY VIA DATA CENTERS IN

00:35 - ENERGY PRODUCTION. THANKS TO

00:35 - SOME OF THE CHANGES WE MADE IN

00:37 - LAST YEAR'S BUDGET TO MOVE

00:39 - FORWARD. SO WITH THAT, I WILL

00:40 - ALLOW THE QUESTIONS TO BEGIN.

00:43 - THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

00:44 - SECRETARIES, WE THANK YOU SO

00:46 - MUCH FOR BEING HERE WITH US.

00:47 - BEFORE WE START, CAN WE?

00:47 - HE STANDS WITH US WHERE

00:50 - EVERYBODY IN.

00:55 - DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT THE

00:56 - TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE

00:57 - IS THE TRUTH?

00:57 - >>THE WHOLE TRUTH SO HELP YOU

01:02 - GOD. YOU MAY BE SEATED.

01:05 - THIS WANT TO REMIND YOU ALL

01:05 - PLEASE SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE

01:08 - MICROPHONE SO

01:10 - THAT EVERYBODY HERE AND AT HOME

01:11 - WATCHING ON TV CAN HEAR YOU IN

01:12 - THE MIDDLE OF THE CLOT IN THE

01:13 - MIDDLE OF THE TABLE IS OUR TIME

01:16 - CLOCK.

01:18 - >>WHEN IT AIRS GREEN ENERGY,

01:19 - MAKE IT YOU MAY START TO OUR

01:20 - MEMBERS WILL HAVE QUESTIONS

01:22 - FOR YOU TO HAVE 5 MINUTES.

01:24 - ACTUALLY QUESTIONS WHEN TURNS

01:26 - YELLOW. THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S

01:26 - 30 SECONDS LEFT IN THAT

01:29 - FIVE-MINUTE. I'M HERE WITH HIGH

01:30 - HOPES THAT WILL WRAP UP YOUR

01:31 - ANSWER. AND WHEN IT TURNS RED

01:33 - AND THAT MEANS THE TIME HAS

01:36 - EXPIRED.

01:38 - SECRETARY SURELY SECRETARY DONE

01:39 - EITHER OF YOU HAVE ENTERED THE

01:42 - COUNTRY KIND OF.

01:43 - POLICE RECEIVED A SUSPENDED AND

01:46 - HERE HAPPY TO GO FIRST. GOOD

01:47 - AFTERNOON, CHAIR HARRIS TEARS,

01:48 - JERSEY AND MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE

01:51 - APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.

01:52 - THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY

01:54 - TO DISCUSS, GOVERNOR SHAPIRO'S

01:56 - 26 27 PROPOSED BUDGET FOR DCNR.

01:57 - >>AND FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND

01:57 - ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE

02:00 - YEARS. THE EYES OF THE WORLD

02:02 - WILL BE IN PENNSYLVANIA THIS

02:02 - YEAR AS AMERICA CELEBRATES ITS

02:06 - 200 50TH BIRTHDAY. THE NFL

02:07 - DRAFT AT POINT STATE PARK THE

02:08 - CHRISTMAS DAY REENACTMENT OF

02:10 - WASHINGTON CROSSING STATE PARK.

02:12 - A PUBLIC LANDS WILL BE PLACES

02:14 - WHERE PEOPLE GO TO SEE EVENTS

02:14 - TO LEARN MORE ABOUT

02:15 - PENNSYLVANIA. AND HERE THE

02:19 - STORY OF THIS NATION. IT'S

02:20 - INTERESTING TO BE TALKING ABOUT

02:21 - THIS AT THIS VERY ROOM WHERE

02:22 - THE VERY FIRST READING THE

02:23 - DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE WAS

02:26 - DEPICTED ON THIS MURAL AND

02:26 - SCENES FROM VALLEY FORGE AND

02:27 - OTHER KEY PLACES IN

02:28 - PENNSYLVANIA. SURROUND US

02:30 - TODAY.

02:33 - BUT FOR US, THE DCNR ARE 1450

02:34 - FULL-TIME STAFF AND THE WAIT

02:36 - STAFF WILL BE THE.

02:37 - FOR THE FACE OF PENNSYLVANIA

02:39 - TO THOSE VISITING THE

02:41 - COMMONWEALTH SOME FOR THE FIRST

02:42 - TIME AND SOME RESIDENTS GOING

02:43 - AROUND TO LEARN MORE ABOUT

02:46 - THEIR HOME STATE.

02:47 - IN STATE. NOW STATE TRAVELERS

02:48 - WILL SPEND THEIR DOLLARS HERE

02:52 - IN PENNSYLVANIA. WE'RE REALLY

02:52 - READY TO SO OFFENSIVE. IT IS

02:54 - GREAT PARKS, FOREST

02:54 - CONSERVATION LANDSCAPES AND

02:56 - HERITAGE AREAS, ALL OF WHICH

02:57 - HAVE A WONDERFUL STORY TO TELL.

03:01 - PENNSYLVANIA IS WHERE AMERICA'S

03:03 - FREEDOM JOURNEY BEGAN. AND IT'S

03:03 - FITTING THAT OUR PARKS AND

03:05 - FORESTS ARE FREE, OPEN,

03:07 - ACCESSIBLE TO ALL. AND NOTHING

03:11 - MORE AFFORDABLE THAN FREE.

03:12 - WITH YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT

03:13 - WILL IMPROVE PUBLIC LANDS BY

03:14 - IMPROVING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS

03:16 - THAT WE CAN CLEARLY AND SAFELY

03:17 - ENJOY THE OUTDOOR SPACES THAT

03:19 - THE FINE THE COMMONWEALTH OF

03:20 - PENNSYLVANIA. WE REALLY WANT

03:22 - TO THANK THE HOUSE OF

03:24 - REPRESENTATIVES FROM PASSING

03:25 - HAVE HOUSE BILL 1331, THE

03:27 - CAPITAL ITEM IS A SON BILL.

03:32 - I'M REALLY YOUR HELP TO GET

03:32 - THAT THROUGH THE SENATE.

03:33 - WE DEPEND ON THAT TO MAKE A

03:34 - PUBLIC SPACE IS SAFE AND

03:37 - WELCOMING TO ALL.

03:38 - GARZA PIRRO. STRATEGY REFLECTS

03:41 - A VISION THAT SUPPORTS TODAY'S

03:41 - KNEES WHILE PREPARING FOR

03:44 - GENERATIONS. YET TO COME, AS WE

03:46 - DISCUSSED LAST YEAR WILL BE

03:46 - BRINGING 100 25TH STATE PARK

03:50 - ONLINE THIS YEAR AT LAUREL

03:50 - CAVERNS. AND THANK YOU FOR THE

03:51 - BUDGET SUPPORT LOT LAST YEAR

03:53 - THAT ALLOWED US TO DO THAT.

03:54 - STAY TUNED FOR THAT

03:56 - ANNOUNCEMENT IN FAYETTE COUNTY

03:58 - AND WE'LL BE ADDING THE VERY

04:00 - POPULAR GLEN ONOKO TRAIL AND

04:03 - TRACKED THE LEHIGH GORGE STATE

04:06 - PARK GUNNED ANOTHER KEY TOURISM

04:08 - DESTINATION THE POCONOS REGION,

04:09 - WHICH WILL ADD A LOT OF

04:10 - OVERNIGHT STAYS FOR VISITORS TO

04:12 - THE AREA AND BUILD THE ECONOMY.

04:15 - Y'ALL TO RECREATION ECONOMY IS

04:16 - CRITICAL TO A COMMENT,

04:18 - PENNSYLVANIA AND TO

04:19 - OUR HEALTH, PENNSYLVANIA'S

04:20 - PARKS AND FORESTS AS WELL AS

04:23 - THE GRANTS WE MADE MAKE FOR OUR

04:24 - LOCAL TRAILS AND PARKS SUPPORT

04:27 - THE OUTDOOR INDUSTRY. WE

04:28 - RECENTLY ANNOUNCED A 5 MILLION

04:30 - DOLLARS IN GRANTS TO CITIES

04:30 - BOROUGHS ARE PARTNERS FOR

04:32 - PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS, POOLS

04:33 - TRAILS AND GREEN SPACE ACROSS

04:36 - PENNSYLVANIA.

04:37 - THE OUTDOOR INDUSTRY IS WORTH

04:38 - 19 BILLION TO PENNSYLVANIA'S

04:41 - GROSS

04:43 - DOMESTIC PRODUCT AND EMPLOYS

04:44 - 120,000 JOBS ACROSS ALL AREAS

04:47 - OF PENNSYLVANIA, DELTA

04:48 - RECREATION OFFICE LAUNCHED A

04:49 - FEW YEARS AGO BY GOVERNOR

04:53 - SHAPIRO HAS ENGAGED WITH 1000

04:53 - RECREATION BUSINESSES TO CHART

04:54 - A PATH FORWARD WITH AN OUTDOOR

04:57 - BUSINESS ALLIANCE.

04:59 - AND SERVED FOREST LAND HIM IN A

05:00 - SAYS FLOODING FILTERS, WATER

05:04 - COOLS TEMPERATURES AND PROVIDES

05:05 - CLEAN OXYGEN TO BREATHE AND

05:06 - SUPPORTS RENEWABLE FOREST

05:07 - PRODUCTS. THIS YEAR IN

05:10 - PENNSYLVANIA WILL CELEBRATE

05:11 - BILLION BOARD FEET OF

05:13 - SUSTAINABLY HARVESTED TOLD

05:16 - THAT'S ALWAYS THE MOON.

05:19 - AND THEN THEY'RE BOTH PEACE IN

05:20 - OUR FORCE AND PRIVATE FOREST

05:21 - LAND PROVIDE SUSTAINABLE FLOW

05:23 - OF FOREST PRODUCTS THAT ARE.

05:24 - HE'S A 24 BILLION DOLLAR FOREST

05:27 - PRODUCTS. INDUSTRY.

05:27 - PREVIOUS STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS.

05:29 - WE ARE THANKFUL THE GOVERNOR'S

05:33 - PROPOSED BUDGET, THE

05:34 - COMMONWEALTH FOR 26 27 FISCAL

05:36 - YEAR FROM ALL SOURCES INCLUDE

05:37 - 665 MILLION FOR DCNR TO SUPPORT

05:41 - OUR WORK. IT'S GOING TO BE

05:42 - EXCITING NEAR IF WE LOOK

05:42 - FORWARD TO PARTNERING WITH YOU

05:43 - TO MEET THE NEEDS OF YOUR

05:45 - COMMUNITIES.

05:48 - PEOPLE IN BUSINESSES THRIVE.

05:48 - INVITED TO JOIN US IN PUBLIC

05:51 - PLACES OR MAYBE EVEN WORK.

05:52 - WE'RE A DAY WITH OUR

05:53 - PENNSYLVANIA OUTDOOR COURT

05:54 - CREWS. AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK

05:56 - YOU FOR HELPING SECURE THE

05:57 - MUCH-NEEDED FUNDING THAT WILL

06:00 - STRENGTHEN AND PROTECT OUR

06:01 - NATURAL RESOURCES BENEFITING

06:01 - PENNSYLVANIA'S COMMUNITIES,

06:03 - BUSINESSES, CITIES AND

06:04 - RESIDENTS. AND I REALLY LOOK

06:05 - FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS THIS

06:07 - YEAR. THANK YOU.

06:11 - GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU.

06:13 - CHAIRMAN HARRIS CHAIRMAN

06:14 - STRUZZI.

06:16 - >>CHAIRMAN VITALE CHAIRMAN

06:17 - RADAR CHAIRMAN FIEDLER. AND

06:20 - I'M SURE CHAIRMAN CARS OR

06:21 - HAVEN'T BUT I'M SURE HE WILL.

06:25 - HE WILL PROBABLY BE HERE.

06:26 - I'M JESSICA. SURELY I AM THE

06:27 - SECRETARY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF

06:27 - ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION TODAY

06:31 - WITH ME. I HAVE DAVID ALT OFF

06:33 - WHO IS OUR ENERGY DIRECTOR.

06:36 - HE HAS 33 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE

06:37 - WITH TP MOST OF THEM WITHIN OUR

06:41 - ENERGY OFFICE AND JOHN RIDER,

06:42 - WHO IS OUR DEPUTY SECRETARY

06:44 - FOR FIELD OPERATIONS WHO HAS 27

06:46 - YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE

06:47 - DEPARTMENT. MOST OF THAT COMING

06:48 - UP THROUGH OUR REGIONAL

06:50 - PROGRAMS.

06:54 - ADP. WE HAVE ALMOST 2700

06:56 - DEDICATED PROFESSIONALS WHO

06:56 - WORK EVERY DAY TO SERVE

06:57 - PENNSYLVANIANS AND DEMONSTRATE

07:00 - OUR MISSION, OUR VALUES OF

07:01 - PUBLIC SERVICE, ENVIRONMENTAL

07:03 - STEWARDSHIP AND COMMITMENT TO

07:04 - CUSTOMERS DRIVE THIS AGENCY

07:08 - AND ITS STAFF. OUR OVERARCHING

07:10 - DUTY IS TO OVERSEE THE MORE

07:10 - THAN 86,000 MILES OF STREAMS

07:14 - AND RIVERS. MORE THAN 217,000

07:16 - OIL AND GAS WELLS AND ALMOST

07:20 - 2000 ACTIVE WHOLE MINES AND

07:22 - QUARRIES. IN ADDITION TO NEARLY

07:25 - 8,000 DRINKING WATER FACILITIES

07:26 - THAT PROVIDE CLEAN SAFE

07:28 - DRINKING WATER FOR MORE THAN

07:30 - 11, 6 MILLION PENNSYLVANIANS.

07:33 - THIS ENORMOUS RESPONSIBILITY

07:34 - FOCUSES OUR ENERGY AND GIVES US

07:35 - A STRONG SENSE OF PURPOSE TO

07:38 - PROTECT THE COMMONWEALTH

07:38 - ENVIRONMENT AS EFFECTIVELY AND

07:41 - EFFICIENTLY AS WE CAN.

07:43 - THIS RESPONSIBILITY ALSO

07:45 - REQUIRES CAPACITY AND

07:46 - RESOURCES. AND THIS YEAR, DPS

07:48 - BUDGET REQUEST INCLUDES AN

07:49 - INCREASE OF APPROXIMATELY

07:51 - 2 MILLION DOLLARS.

07:52 - EXCUSE ME, 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS

07:55 - FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM

07:56 - MANAGEMENT AND 3.1 MILLION FOR

07:58 - ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION

08:00 - OPERATIONS. IT ALSO INCLUDES

08:02 - $530,000 IN ADDITIONAL FUNDS

08:04 - TO CONTINUE OUR IMPORTANT WORK

08:05 - WITH THE CHESAPEAKE BAY

08:06 - AGRICULTURAL SOURCE ABATEMENT

08:08 - TO REDUCE NITROGEN, PHOSPHORUS

08:10 - AND SEDIMENT RUN-OFF FROM

08:12 - FARMLAND FOR PUBLIC HEALTH

08:14 - EFFORTS. THIS BUDGET INCLUDES

08:15 - AN ADDITIONAL $227,000 FOR

08:17 - BLACK FLIGHT CONTROL AND

08:19 - RESEARCH AND 181,000 TO HELP

08:20 - MANAGE THE SPREADING OF DISEASE

08:22 - FROM IN SEX. THE GOVERNOR'S

08:25 - PROPOSAL ALSO INCLUDES

08:26 - 20 MILLION DOLLAR ONE TIME

08:26 - TRANSFER FOR HAZARDOUS SITES.

08:29 - CLEANUP TIME TO HELP MAKE

08:30 - FORMER INDUSTRIAL LAND SAFE FOR

08:32 - PUBLIC USE.

08:34 - THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO

08:35 - PROVIDE AN OPENING AND WE'RE

08:36 - LOOKING FORWARD TO QUESTIONS.

08:37 - THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO

08:39 - START.

08:42 - CHAIR FIEDLER.

08:53 - TO THE SECRETARIES FOR BEING

08:55 - HERE AND HERE STAFF'S. I WANT

08:57 - TO ASK A QUESTION THAT RELATES

08:59 - DIRECTLY TO THE WORK THAT WE'RE

08:59 - DOING IN THE ENERGY COMMITTEE

09:00 - AND SOMETHING I KNOW ALL OF US

09:02 - CARE ABOUT, WHICH IS

09:04 - >>PEOPLE'S ENERGY BILLS BACK

09:05 - HOME. I KNOW HEAR ABOUT IT.

09:06 - MY DISTRICT OFFICE IN AND MANY

09:07 - OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TALKED

09:10 - ABOUT IT AS WELL.

09:13 - PROJECTIONS FOR OUR ENERGY

09:13 - NEEDS ARE HUGE. AND I I BELIEVE

09:17 - WE NEED TO DO A LOT VERY, VERY

09:20 - QUICKLY. IF WE HAVE ANY CHANCE

09:21 - OF AVOIDING SOME OF THE WORST

09:21 - CASE SCENARIOS, RIGHT? THE

09:24 - BLACKOUTS BROWNOUTS, THINGS

09:26 - LIKE THAT THAT REALLY ARE

09:27 - BEYOND COMPREHENSION RIGHT NOW,

09:28 - BUT COULD VERY, VERY SOON

09:28 - BECOME PART OF OUR DAILY

09:31 - REALITY.

09:34 - I THINK THIS QUESTION IS BEST

09:34 - DIRECTED TOWARD MISTER. ALL

09:36 - TOUGH. I DON'T MEAN TO SKIP

09:37 - EITHER OF THE SECRETARY.

09:37 - SO CERTAINLY FEEL FREE TO WEIGH

09:40 - IN. BUT

09:43 - >>AS WE WORK TO INCREASE GRID

09:44 - RELIABILITY AND DO EVERYTHING

09:45 - WE CAN TO GET NEW SOURCES OF

09:48 - ENERGY ONLINE. ONE THING THAT

09:50 - KEEPS COMING UP IS BATTERY

09:52 - STORAGE. AND I KNOW ONE OF MY

09:53 - COLLEAGUES IS WORKING ON

09:54 - LEGISLATION ON THAT TOPIC.

09:58 - REP RIVERA IS I WONDERED IF YOU

10:00 - COULD SPEAK TO BATTERY STORAGE

10:02 - AND ITS USEFULNESS IN IN

10:03 - ACCOMPLISHING AT LEAST 2 OF

10:05 - THOSE GOALS, INCREASING

10:06 - RELIABILITY, KEEPING PEOPLE'S

10:09 - BILLS DOWN AND TRYING TO SMOOTH

10:10 - OUT THE PEAKS IN SOME OF OUR

10:13 - DEMAND. THANK YOU.

10:14 - >>ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY

10:14 - MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THAT

10:15 - QUESTION. REPRESENTATIVE

10:20 - FIEDLER CERTAINLY, I THINK THAT

10:21 - STORAGE IS PERHAPS THE MOST

10:23 - IMPORTANT BUT LEAST THOUGHT

10:25 - ABOUT RESOURCE IN THE

10:26 - ELECTRICITY SECTOR. IT'S ONE OF

10:29 - THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN

10:31 - OTHER SECTORS RELATIVE TO

10:32 - LIQUID FUELS OR NATURAL GAS.

10:34 - WE HAVE THE MOST UNDERGROUND

10:36 - STORAGE CAVERNS IN PENNSYLVANIA

10:37 - IN THE UNITED STATES WITH

10:38 - REGARDS TO NATURAL GAS. WE HAVE

10:41 - VERY LITTLE ELECTRICITY

10:42 - STORAGE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN

10:43 - PENNSYLVANIA OR WITHIN THE PJM

10:45 - GRID I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH

10:50 - THE OTHER DAY AND AND JUST

10:52 - TEXAS ALONE, WHICH IS ONE RTO

10:54 - HAS OVER 14 GIGAWATTS OF

10:55 - ELECTRICITY STORAGE PJM ALL BY

11:00 - ITSELF AS 300 AND

11:02 - 28 MEGAWATTS OF STORAGE.

11:04 - SO OVER 14,000 MEGAWATTS IN

11:10 - TEXAS ALONE, BUT ONLY 328 IN

11:11 - PJM. ONLY 35 MEGAWATTS OF

11:14 - STORAGE IN PENNSYLVANIA.

11:16 - WE REALLY INVESTIGATED THIS

11:19 - OPPORTUNITY WAY BACK IN 2021,

11:20 - MY OFFICE DELIVERED OUT

11:21 - PENNSYLVANIA ENERGY STORAGE

11:22 - ASSESSMENT REPORT IN 2021.

11:25 - WHEREBY WE CAME OUT WITH 15

11:25 - RECOMMENDATIONS OF HOW TO

11:27 - INCREASE STORAGE IN

11:29 - PENNSYLVANIA. THAT REPORT WAS

11:32 - SORT OF THE UNDERLYING FACT

11:33 - DOCUMENT THAT WAS USED WITH THE

11:35 - PEUC TO COME OUT WITH THEIR

11:38 - ENERGY STORAGE

11:38 - POLICY STATEMENT. BUT WE'RE

11:39 - CONTINUING TO WORK FORWARD WITH

11:42 - REGARDS TO HOW HOW WE DEPLOY

11:44 - ENERGY STORAGE IN PENNSYLVANIA

11:45 - BECAUSE I THINK YOU CAN SORT

11:47 - OF CONSIDER THOSE TO BE LIKE

11:49 - THE FIRST RESPONDER ELECTRONS

11:50 - WE SHOULD BE. WE SHOULD BE

11:54 - OPTIMIZING OUR GRID. BRUCE

11:54 - PRICE SIGNALS WHEREBY WHEN

11:57 - PRICES ARE HIGH, WE JUST

11:58 - CHARGED BATTERIES. WHEN PRICES

12:00 - ARE LOW, WE LOAD BATTERIES INTO

12:01 - THOSE REALLY SKEWS ME ALONE.

12:02 - ELECTRONS INTO THOSE BATTERIES.

12:03 - SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR

12:05 - US TO TO LOOK AT THAT AS AN

12:07 - AFFORDABILITY PLAY. IT'S

12:09 - SOMETHING THAT CAN BE BUILT

12:10 - QUICKLY. IT'S EASY TO PERMITS.

12:15 - RIGHT NOW IN THE PJM. QUE JUST

12:16 - FOR PENNSYLVANIA ALONE. THERE'S

12:17 - ABOUT 5 GIGAWATTS OF PROJECTS

12:20 - IN THE QUEUE THAT ARE EITHER

12:21 - STORAGE, SOLAR PLUS STORAGE

12:21 - WHEN PLUS STORAGE PROJECTS.

12:26 - IN PJM. IN TOTAL. THERE'S ABOUT

12:26 - 68 GIGAWATTS OF THOSE TYPES

12:29 - OF PROJECTS. SO THESE ARE THESE

12:32 - ARE TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE CAN

12:33 - SOURCE NOW THAT WE CAN SOURCE

12:34 - FROM COMPANIES WITH IN THE PJM

12:36 - REGION AND WE CAN DEPLOY THAT.

12:38 - AND THAT IS JUST WHAT I WOULD

12:39 - CALL FRONT OF THE METER.

12:41 - SO THAT'S SORT OF UTILITY SCALE

12:42 - ENERGY STORAGE. THERE'S ALSO A

12:44 - WHOLE WORLD THAT IS BEHIND THE

12:45 - METER WHEREBY WE CAN ACCESS

12:49 - BATTERIES THROUGH THAT ARE

12:51 - CONNECTED TO DISTRIBUTED ENERGY

12:53 - GENERATION CONNECTED TO SOLAR.

12:53 - THAT IS EITHER ON YOUR HOME OR

12:54 - YOUR BUSINESS OR YOUR YOUR

12:57 - PLACE OF WORK. AND SO THERE'S

12:59 - THERE'S WAYS TO ACTION EYES

13:01 - THAT SORT OF FLEXIBILITY IN

13:04 - BOTH DEMAND AND USE ROOF

13:06 - BATTERY BASED VIRTUAL POWER

13:08 - PLANTS. AND I THINK THAT'S

13:10 - REALLY EXCITING AREA FOR US TO

13:11 - DIG INTO. LIKE I SAID, WE'VE

13:12 - WE'VE DONE THE WORK. WE HAVE

13:13 - THE STORAGE ASSESSMENTS.

13:15 - 5 WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE RE

13:16 - UPDATING IT. BUT NOW IS THE

13:17 - TIME BECAUSE PRICE SIGNALS ARE

13:19 - SHOWING US THEM.

13:22 - THANK THE GENTLE LADY,

13:25 - REPRESENTATIVE CUTS. THANK YOU,

13:26 - CHAIRMAN. GOOD AFTERNOON.

13:28 - THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE

13:29 - TODAY.

13:30 - >>A DIRECT MY QUESTION TO DP

13:32 - SECRETARY SHIRLEY WANT TO TOUCH

13:37 - BASE ON THE FISCAL CODE ACT.

13:38 - 45 2025, WHICH INCLUDES SEVERAL

13:39 - INITIATIVES THAT SPECIFICALLY

13:43 - APPLIED YOUR AGENCY. THESE

13:43 - INCLUDE THE EXPANSION OF THE

13:44 - SPEED PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE

13:45 - STREAMLINING PERMITS FOR

13:46 - ECONOMICS EXPANSION AND

13:49 - DEVELOPMENT. THE AUTHORIZATION

13:50 - OF A PUBLIC TRACKER AND

13:51 - DATABASE OF THE PERMITS

13:53 - INVOLVED IN SPEED PROGRAM AND

13:54 - AND ACCELERATION OF THE TIME

13:55 - FRAMES FOR DP TO COMPLETE ITS

13:58 - REVIEW OF 2 TYPES OF PERMIT

13:59 - APPLICATIONS SECTOR MORE.

14:00 - IF YOU CAN GIVE US A STATUS

14:01 - UPDATE OF YOUR DEPARTMENT'S

14:02 - IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE

14:05 - INITIATIVES.

14:06 - SURE.

14:09 - >>SO I'LL DO THE

14:09 - TRACKER FIRST. WE ACTUALLY HAD

14:12 - THAT IN THE FISCAL CODE LAST

14:15 - YEAR.

14:15 - >>WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF DO A

14:19 - BETA TESTING OF THE TRACKER,

14:21 - WHICH OVERLAYS HOUR SYSTEM OF

14:25 - RECORD. THE FACTS AND IT PULLS

14:26 - OUT INFORMATION RELATED TO ALL

14:28 - OF THE PERMITS THAT HAVE COME

14:29 - INTO THE E P SINCE LIKE OCTOBER

14:32 - 2024. GIVES AN UPDATE OF WHERE

14:35 - THEY ARE. IF THEY'VE BEEN

14:36 - ISSUED. AND I THINK LAST YEAR

14:39 - AT 45 EXPANDED THAT

14:41 - TO OTHER AGENCIES. WE DO HAVE A

14:44 - COUPLE OF PERMITS THAT WERE

14:45 - NOT ELECTRONIC THAT WILL BE

14:50 - PULLING INTO THAT PROGRAM OVER

14:50 - THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. WE'RE

14:54 - WORKING WITH CODE PA ON THAT SO

14:54 - THAT I THINK WE'RE IN PRETTY

14:57 - GOOD STANDING.

15:00 - SPEED. I'M GLAD THAT YOU KNOW

15:00 - WHAT? IT STANDS FOR A TRIP OVER

15:01 - THE WORD. SOMETIMES WE JUST

15:04 - COLLEGE SPEED

15:06 - WE BEGIN IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT

15:12 - AUGUST OF THE INITIAL PERMITS

15:15 - THAT WERE

15:17 - IN THERE. WE HAVE HAD 3 PERMITS

15:21 - ISSUED AND 2 AIR QUALITY

15:22 - PERMITS ONE AND PS PERMIT.

15:23 - I THINK THERE'S 13 CURRENTLY IN

15:28 - IN THE QUEUE. BUT LAST FISCAL

15:31 - CODE ADDED ADDITIONAL PERMITS

15:33 - TO THAT MINING STORAGE TANKS

15:34 - AND ONE OTHER ONE. THEY ARE IN

15:37 - THE PROCESS NOW OF GOING

15:40 - THROUGH THAT FOR KERMIT PROCESS

15:43 - TO BRING ON QUALIFIED. CAN

15:45 - PROFESSIONALS. SO THAT TOOK US

15:47 - ABOUT A YEAR LAST YEAR. BUT

15:49 - I THINK WE'VE KIND OF FIGURED

15:52 - OUT HOW TO DO IT. SO WE

15:52 - EXPECTED TO GO A LOT FASTER

15:54 - THIS YEAR TO ADD THOSE

15:57 - ADDITIONAL PERMITS. JOHN F.

15:59 - >>IF I CAN, JUST, YEAH, JUST

16:01 - SWITCH GEARS A LITTLE BIT.

16:02 - I'M CURIOUS SPECIFICALLY THE

16:02 - GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF

16:05 - TRANSPORTATION TO YOU WHAT YOU

16:08 - ARE INTERFACING WITH THAT

16:09 - OFFICE AND KIND OF THE HOW THE

16:10 - LOAD IS SHARED BETWEEN BETWEEN

16:12 - THOSE 2.

16:15 - >>SO I THINK THE OFFICE OF

16:16 - TRANSFORMATION AND OPPORTUNITY

16:17 - REALLY, I WOULD DESCRIBE THEM

16:20 - AS LIKE A STOREFRONT FOR FOR

16:23 - PERMITTING. SO A LOT OF LARGE

16:24 - ENTITIES OR FOLKS WHO WANT TO

16:28 - CITE IN PENNSYLVANIA INITIALLY

16:29 - REACHED OUT TO THEM AND THEY

16:32 - KIND OF GIVE A MENU OF OPTIONS

16:33 - FOR PERMITTING THAT WE HAVE.

16:34 - THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT THEY

16:35 - WORK WITH WITH BUT WE INTERFACE

16:37 - WITH THEM ON THE PERMITTING

16:38 - SIDE. SO THERE'S LIKE A FAST

16:41 - TRACK PROGRAM. BUT THEN EVEN

16:43 - IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE

16:45 - SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT I

16:47 - WOULD SAY RISE TO LIKE A HIGHER

16:49 - LEVEL OF ATTENTION. WE MAKE

16:50 - SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY TRACKING

16:53 - THOSE AND STAYING ON TOP OF

16:55 - THOSE AND THEY WORK DIRECTLY

16:59 - WITH JOHN RIDER DOWN HERE ON

17:00 - MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING

17:02 - OUR TIMELINES AND OUR

17:03 - OBLIGATIONS VERY REGULAR.

17:04 - WE HAVE A VERY LARGE

17:06 - SPREADSHEET THAT WE WORK WITH

17:07 - ACTUALLY WITH TO LET ME LET ME

17:08 - KEEP GONE I KNOW IT'S GOING TO

17:12 - BE SHORT ON TIME HERE.

17:13 - >>HERE'S SPECIFICALLY IT'S

17:15 - DEALING WITH CODE PA A 3.7

17:16 - MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE THAT

17:18 - THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE BUDGET

17:19 - PROPOSED TO SUPPORT THE

17:20 - CREATION. SOME OF THESE

17:21 - INITIATIVES AND YOUR PREVIOUSLY

17:23 - REPORTED YOU ARE IMPLEMENTING

17:25 - THE FIRST PHASE OF A 21 MILLION

17:27 - DOLLAR. IT INFRASTRUCTURE

17:31 - UPGRADE. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT

17:32 - 3.7 MILLION AND THE PROPOSED

17:33 - BUDGET THROUGH COPE PA IS IN

17:33 - ADDITION TO OR IS THAT PART

17:36 - OF THAT? 21 MILLION THE I

17:37 - BELIEVE THAT.

17:38 - >>I BELIEVE THAT'S IN ADDITION

17:41 - TO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A

17:42 - QUESTION FOR THE OFFICE OF

17:43 - ADMINISTRATION. BUT MY

17:43 - UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT THAT

17:47 - IS IN ADDITION TO THE

17:48 - 21 MILLION TO THE 21 MILLION IS

17:49 - FOR THE PLC. THE PERMITTING

17:52 - LICENSING CERTIFICATION.

17:56 - I THINK THAT 3 MILLION IS FOR

17:56 - THE TRACKER. THAT WAS HALF.

17:57 - SO THAT'S THAT'S GREAT TO KNOW.

17:59 - AND I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

18:01 - >>HAVE YOU ESTIMATED HOW MUCH

18:02 - MORE TIME AND FUNDING YOU THINK

18:03 - WILL BE NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT

18:07 - THESE CHANGES

18:10 - >>SO IT I WILL SAY IT

18:11 - PROCUREMENT IS A LESSON THAT

18:17 - WE'RE ADP KIND AS WE GO.

18:17 - IT IS MUCH. I THINK IT'S MORE

18:20 - COMPLICATED THAN AT LEAST I

18:22 - ANTICIPATED. BUT I THINK WE'RE

18:22 - AT A REALLY GOOD PLACE RIGHT

18:23 - NOW WHERE WE'RE GETTING READY

18:24 - TO KIND OF REALLY HIT THE PEDAL

18:27 - AND SHOW SOME RESULTS. WE DID

18:28 - HAVE SOME DELAYS LAST YEAR

18:30 - BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET IMPASSE

18:31 - WITH BRINGING SOME CONSULTANTS

18:36 - ON BOARD. BUT LATER THIS YEAR,

18:38 - ACTUALLY ENOUGH ENOUGH. A FEW

18:41 - SHORT MONTHS, WE SHOULD BE

18:42 - ROLLING OUT THE VERY FIRST

18:43 - PROGRAM AND THAT WHICH IS

18:47 - RELATED TO X-RAYS X, I X

18:48 - HYBRID, TYPE OR SHAPE YOUR

18:48 - TIME. UNRESPONSIVENESS. MY

18:49 - TIME'S EXPIRED. WANT TO THANK

18:50 - YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 4TH

18:51 - COMMITTEE AND THANK YOU,

18:51 - CHAIRMAN.

18:52 - >>THANK YOU. GENTLEMAN

18:55 - CHAIRWOMAN. YEAH.

19:01 - THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND

19:03 - WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU TO

19:05 - TODAY'S HEARINGS. I HAVE A

19:06 - QUESTION FOR SECRETARY DONE

19:10 - SO.

19:11 - HOUSE RESOLUTION. 87 WAS PASSED

19:16 - AND THAT WAS ALL ABOUT WILDLIFE

19:16 - CROSSINGS AND TEMPER. SOME OF

19:20 - THE ACCIDENTS INVOLVING

19:20 - WILDLIFE BE REALLY INTERESTED

19:25 - IN HEARING. THERE ARE ALSO

19:25 - SUGGESTIONS FOR WORK THAT COULD

19:26 - BE DONE. SO IF YOU COULD GIVE

19:29 - US AN UPDATE ON WHAT DCNR IS

19:32 - DOING AND HOW THAT'S ALL

19:32 - WORKING. AND THE SECOND

19:35 - QUESTION, IF THERE'S TIME AND

19:36 - THAT IS AS CHAIR OF TOURISM

19:37 - RECREATION, I'VE BEEN REALLY

19:38 - EXCITED TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING

19:41 - IN THE OUTDOOR RECREATION.

19:44 - THE OUTDOOR RECREATION BUSINESS

19:45 - LINES. THERE'S SO MUCH GOING

19:46 - ON. IF YOU COULD ALSO TALK

19:49 - ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. THE

19:51 - QUESTIONS ON THE ON THE

19:52 - WILDLIFE QUARTERS. WE WERE

19:54 - REALLY, REALLY APPLY TO THE

19:55 - BILL. AND PENNDOT WAS, OF

19:55 - COURSE, VERY SUPPORTIVE AND

20:00 - FUNDED. THE STUDY.

20:01 - >>AND THEN SEPARATELY AND

20:01 - ENVIRONMENT IS A STUDY ABOUT

20:05 - WILDLIFE CONNECTIVITY IN

20:07 - HABITAT RESILIENCY AND OUR

20:08 - POLICY OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING

20:10 - WITH THE POLICY OFFICES OF

20:11 - PENNDOT BP AND COMMISSION FISH

20:12 - AND BOAT COMMISSION. AND THE

20:15 - OTHERS TOO.

20:18 - >>IN THE $0.10 SOON CONVENE

20:20 - A STUDY OF WHAT CAN BE DONE IN

20:20 - PENNSYLVANIA FOR WILDLIFE

20:23 - CONNECTIVITY IN QUARTERS.

20:24 - >>THESE QUARTERS ARE ALSO GOOD

20:28 - FOR CLIMATE RESILIENCY AS THE

20:30 - CLIMATE CHANGES, ALL KINDS OF

20:32 - PLANTS, ANIMALS TO EAT PATHWAYS

20:36 - TO MOVE SAFELY. SO IT'S MUCH

20:37 - BIGGER THAN SIMPLY WILDLIFE

20:38 - CROSSING WHEN THINK WILDLIFE

20:39 - CROSSING, EVERYONE THINKS ABOUT

20:41 - THEIR DRAMATIC OVER PASS WHERE?

20:42 - WELL FOR SOMETHING, A WALK

20:46 - ACROSS A HIGHWAY. I THINK

20:48 - AMPHIBIANS TURTLES, ALL KINDS

20:48 - OF BIO DAD THAT ARE REALLY

20:50 - TRAVELING ALONG AS QUARTERS.

20:52 - AND THEN FOR US, THINK ABOUT

20:55 - POLLINATOR WATERS WITH THINGS

20:56 - LIKE A MONARCH BUTTERFLIES THAT

20:59 - DEPEND ON MILL LEAD. SO WE AT

21:02 - THE SCENE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR

21:03 - THE THE CONVENING AND

21:04 - COORDINATED BY DIVERSITY OF THE

21:05 - STATE. AND WE HAVE DIRECT

21:08 - RESPONSIBILITY FOR PLANTS

21:09 - AND TREES. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO

21:10 - CONVENE AND COME UP WITH

21:12 - RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CREATING

21:13 - IS WILDLIFE QUARTERS WOULD

21:16 - EXPECT TO COME OUT OF THAT

21:17 - WILL BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT

21:20 - WHERE PRIVATE LANDOWNERS CAN

21:21 - COLLECT CAN COLLABORATE STATE

21:22 - GOVERNMENT AND COUNTIES CAN

21:23 - DECIDE TO FOCUS THEIR LAND.

21:25 - CONSERVATION.

21:27 - AND AGAIN, WE WORK A LOT WITH

21:29 - PRIVATE FOREST LANDOWNERS.

21:30 - I CAN SEE THAT EXPANDING MORE.

21:32 - WE'RE GETTING MORE AND

21:33 - MORE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE

21:34 - MEADOW CONVERSION. WAS SUBURBAN

21:38 - LANDOWNERS WERE CONVERTING

21:40 - WARD. SOME THOUGH, TRACKS INTO

21:41 - META. SO I SEE A LOT OF

21:41 - POSITIVE, A VOLUNTARY ACTIONS

21:42 - COMING OUT OF THIS GREATER

21:45 - UNDERSTANDING.

21:45 - AND THE OUTDOOR RECREATION

21:48 - OFFICE IS GOING GREAT GUNS.

21:50 - THE ELDER BUSINESS ALLIANCE HAS

21:53 - TALKED TO OVER 1000 RECREATION

21:55 - BUSINESSES. AND UNTIL UNTIL THE

21:57 - OUTDOOR RECREATION OFFICE WAS

21:58 - CREATED, THESE OUTDOOR BUSINESS

21:59 - ISN'T REALLY NEVER HAD A WAY OF

22:00 - CONNECTING WITH EACH OTHER.

22:01 - THAT MIGHT BE SMALL. OUTFITTERS

22:03 - MIGHT BE FISHING. GUYS. I THINK

22:08 - GOD'S HI GUYS. IT MIGHT BE

22:09 - MANUFACTURERS PROVIDERS OF

22:10 - INFORMATION OR THE SUPPORT

22:11 - SYSTEMS THAT THEN SUPPORT THOSE

22:13 - BUSINESSES FROM PRINTING

22:15 - AND 2, ALL THE HOSPITALITY

22:15 - INDUSTRY. THAT IS A BIG PART

22:20 - OF THIS. SO THEY'RE CONVENE

22:22 - AND TALK TO OVER 1000

22:24 - BUSINESSES TO UNDERSTAND THEIR

22:25 - NEEDS. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT

22:27 - WHAT SUCCESS COULD LOOK LIKE,

22:29 - A COMPARISON CAN BE MADE TO THE

22:30 - AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY WHERE

22:33 - YOUNG AND INDUSTRIES REALLY,

22:37 - TO SUPPORT FARMING IN

22:37 - PENNSYLVANIA. SO OUR OUTDOOR

22:39 - RECREATION BUSINESSES AND

22:42 - COLLABORATE AND WORK WITH THE

22:42 - VCR. THE CD IS A KEY PARTNER.

22:45 - DCD IS WORKING WITH HER OUT FOR

22:46 - RECREATION OFFICE TO TO REALLY

22:49 - ADVANCE.

22:50 - USING AI AND SOME OF THE MODERN

22:52 - TOOLS ADVANCE OUR UNDERSTANDING

22:53 - OF HOW PEOPLE MOVE TO

22:54 - PENNSYLVANIA HEALTH TOURISTS

22:57 - SPEND MONEY. WHAT THE STATE AN

22:58 - EXTRA DAY OR VISIT THE EXTRA

23:00 - THING.

23:01 - AND I THINK WE'LL SEE

23:05 - ADVANCEMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY THAT

23:07 - WILL REALLY HELP BUSINESSES

23:08 - THRIVE, ESPECIALLY IN RURAL

23:10 - PENNSYLVANIA, WHERE A COUPLE

23:11 - SMALL, ALL DIRECT BUSINESSES

23:11 - CAN MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE.

23:16 - AND THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT

23:17 - TO ALSO SAY THANK YOU TO YOUR

23:18 - STAFF BECAUSE I WORKED ON THAT

23:20 - HOUSE RESOLUTION.

23:22 - >>FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS.

23:24 - BUT WE'RE ONLY THINKING ABOUT

23:25 - ANIMALS. I THINK WHEN IT WAS

23:25 - FIRST INTRODUCED AND THEN YOUR

23:26 - DEPARTMENT SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?

23:31 - IT SHOULD BE WILDLIFE BECAUSE

23:32 - THAT THEN INCLUDES ALL OF THOSE

23:33 - THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT.

23:34 - SO I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

23:39 - SOMEHOW AS THE CHAIR OF TOURISM

23:40 - AND RECREATION AND ECONOMIC

23:40 - DEVELOPMENT. I THINK IT'S

23:43 - REALLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER

23:44 - THAT THOSE 2 TOPICS WILL TIE

23:45 - INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR

23:47 - THE STATE.

23:50 - I GET TO BE WITH THAT OUTDOOR

23:51 - BUSINESS ALLIANCE. THEY INVITE

23:54 - ME TO THEIR MEETINGS WELL, AS I

23:56 - TOLD YOU DON'T HAVE A VOTE,

23:57 - BUT I HAVE A VOICE. YOU REALLY

24:01 - HAVE IT. SO IT'S REALLY GOOD

24:03 - THING BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE

24:04 - THINGS THAT'S SO POSITIVE ABOUT

24:05 - WHAT'S HAPPENING IN

24:06 - PENNSYLVANIA.

24:07 - AND BECAUSE IT IS JUST SUCH AN

24:08 - AMAZING STATES. SO THANK YOU SO

24:10 - MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE

24:11 - DOING. WE APPRECIATE YOUR

24:13 - LEADERSHIP AND YOUR COURAGE.

24:17 - >>AND THEY CAN BRING OUR

24:18 - DIRECTIVE ELSEWHERE.

24:18 - >>GRAYSON OFFICE HAS NOW BEEN

24:21 - ASKED TO LEAVE THE CONFERENCE

24:22 - ESTATES NATIONALLY. SO

24:23 - LEADERSHIP THE THAT ALL OF YOU

24:24 - HAVE PROVIDED HERE IN

24:24 - PENNSYLVANIA, ME STAYING HERE,

24:26 - BUT HE'S VOLUNTEER CHAIR OF

24:29 - THAT. THAT A BROADER GROUP IS

24:30 - BECAUSE THE SUPPORT PEOPLE LIKE

24:31 - IT IS ALLOWED US TO GO SO FAR

24:34 - SO FAST. THANK YOU.

24:34 - >>THANKS TO GENERAL A

24:38 - REPRESENTATIVE GROUP OF.

24:38 - >>THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND

24:39 - THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE

24:39 - THIS MORNING. MY QUESTIONS ARE

24:41 - ACTUALLY FOR SECRETARY SURELY,

24:42 - BUT I HAVE TO GIVE SECRETARY

24:45 - DUNN A SHOUT OUT AND THANK YEAH

24:46 - YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS AND

24:48 - MAKING SURE THAT LITTLE CAVERNS

24:49 - IS GOING TO BE THE NEST AND

24:50 - THE NEXT STATE PARK. I SHARE

24:51 - YOUR PASSION AND LOVE OF LITTLE

24:54 - CAVERNS SECRETARY SHIRLEY, YOUR

24:56 - AGENCY IS PROJECTED TO RECEIVE

24:59 - APPROXIMATELY 3.3, 5, 5 BILLION

25:00 - IN FEDERAL FUNDING, WHICH IS

25:01 - CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT

25:04 - YEAR'S ABOUT. DO YOU ANTICIPATE

25:06 - ISSUES RECEIVING THIS

25:07 - AUTHORIZED FUNDING, ESPECIALLY

25:09 - WHEN IT ADDRESSES KEY LEGACY

25:10 - ISSUES THAT ARE HUGE IN MY AREA

25:12 - IN SOUTHWESTERN PENNSYLVANIA

25:14 - SUCH AS ORPHAN. WELL, PLUGGING

25:16 - AND ABANDONED MINE RECLAMATION

25:20 - TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 1.0 6,

25:22 - 5 BILLION FOR RELATED PROGRAMS.

25:24 - THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

25:26 - I THINK YOU'VE REALLY

25:26 - HIGHLIGHTED AN IMMENSE

25:28 - OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE HERE

25:28 - IN PENNSYLVANIA WITH USING

25:30 - THESE FEDERAL DOLLARS TO CLEAN

25:31 - UP.

25:31 - >>THESE COMMUNITIES IN THESE

25:32 - LANDS THAT HAVE AND UNUSABLE

25:35 - FOR SO

25:40 - LONG SO ONE I'LL TAKE AML

25:41 - FIRST. WE RECEIVED SEVERAL

25:43 - LINES OF FUNDING FROM THE

25:45 - FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR THOSE

25:46 - AML FUNDS. SOME OF THEM HAVE

25:48 - BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR QUITE

25:49 - SOME TIME. BUT THE I PASSED IN

25:53 - 2021. BASICALLY PUT IT ON

25:56 - STEROIDS AND WE WERE RECEIVING

25:58 - 245 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FOR

26:02 - 15 YEARS. I BELIEVE.

26:05 - AND IT WAS ABOUT 3 OVER 3, 3.6

26:07 - BILLION DOLLARS TOTAL OVER THAT

26:11 - TIME RECENTLY, CONGRESS DECIDED

26:13 - TO GIVE THAT FUND A HAIRCUT.

26:14 - THEY PULLED OFF ABOUT 10% OF

26:18 - THOSE FUNDS, I BELIEVE IS 10%,

26:19 - WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HATE

26:20 - TO SEE ANY OF THOSE FUNDS

26:23 - DIVERTED

26:25 - BECAUSE WE COULD USE EVERY

26:26 - DOLLAR HERE. PENNSYLVANIA.

26:27 - HAVE WE ESTIMATE THERE'S A

26:28 - 5 BILLION DOLLAR OBLIGATION

26:29 - WHEN IT COMES TO CLEANING UP

26:33 - ABANDONED MINE LANDS IN

26:33 - PENNSYLVANIA. AND THAT'S IN

26:34 - TODAY'S DOLLARS. AND THOSE

26:35 - COSTS ARE ONLY GOING TO GET

26:36 - MORE EXPENSIVE AS TIME GOES ON.

26:40 - BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GRATEFUL

26:42 - FOR THE THE FUNDING THAT WE

26:44 - DO GET WITH RICIN AND FORGIVE

26:45 - ME. I'M TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL

26:47 - TIME WITH RESPECT TO THE 3.0,

26:48 - 3, 5, 5 BILLION THAT'S

26:51 - PROJECTED SPECIFICALLY WITH

26:52 - THEM BUCKET OF MONEY. ARE YOU

26:53 - ANTICIPATING ANY ISSUES

26:54 - OBTAINING THAT ARE RECEIVING

26:58 - THAT AUTHORIZE FUNDING? SO

26:59 - >>THERE'S A THERE'S A HANDFUL

27:01 - OF FUNDS THAT WE HAVE HAD

27:03 - CLAWED BACK FROM THE FEDERAL

27:06 - GOVERNMENT AML FUNDING OIL AND

27:07 - GAS FUNDING HAVE NOT. THEY ARE

27:08 - THE WELL PLUGGING FUNDING HAVE

27:11 - NOT

27:12 - THEN SUBJECT TO THAT OTHER THAN

27:15 - THE HAIRCUT THAT WAS GIVEN TO

27:17 - ALPHONSO COULD BIG CHUNK OF

27:19 - THAT FUNDING IS PROBABLY FROM

27:22 - OUR RISE, GRANT REDUCING AND

27:23 - INDUSTRIAL SECTOR EMISSIONS,

27:26 - WHICH IS ABOUT $400,000.

27:28 - EXCUSE ME, 409 HIM. STAY UP

27:31 - SO I MEAN, IT'S AND THEN WE

27:35 - HAVE THE FUNDING FOR OTHER.

27:38 - YOU KNOW, CHESAPEAKE BAY AND

27:40 - THE IT'S SEVERAL LINES OF

27:41 - FUNDING. SO EVERY EVERY I WILL

27:45 - SAY, THOUGH, EVERY YEAR WE DO

27:47 - SEE A LOT OF THOSE CATEGORY

27:48 - CULL GRANTS GET ZEROED OUT BY

27:50 - THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET. BUT

27:51 - THEY DO SEEM TO FIND THEIR WAY

27:53 - BACK INTO IT WITH CONGRESS.

27:55 - SO WE DO ADVOCATE THROUGH THE

27:56 - ENVIRONMENTAL COUNCIL OF STATES

27:58 - TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE

27:59 - CATEGORICAL FUNDS TO MAKE THEIR

28:00 - WAY BACK INTO THAT BUDGET.

28:01 - OKAY. I WANT TO PIVOT A LITTLE

28:03 - BIT FROM THAT BECAUSE THE

28:05 - GOVERNMENT'S PROPOSING THE

28:06 - ESTABLISHMENT OF A NEW FUND.

28:07 - MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THESE

28:08 - ARE FUNDS FROM THE RAINY DAY

28:10 - FUND. THE FEDERAL RESPONSE

28:10 - FUND.

28:12 - >>TO RESPOND TO AND MITIGATE.

28:14 - AND I'M GOING TO JUST READ THIS

28:17 - ANY ACTION OR INACTION BY THE

28:17 - FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT RESULTS

28:18 - IN A REDUCTION IN FUNDING THE

28:22 - CRITICAL PROGRAMS THAT IMPACT

28:23 - THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE

28:24 - OF PENNSYLVANIANS AND

28:25 - REPORTEDLY TO BE DETERMINED BY

28:26 - THE SECRETARY OF THE BUDGET.

28:28 - HAVE YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS

28:29 - WITH THE GOVERNOR RELATED TO

28:32 - THIS PROPOSED FUND? AND IF SO,

28:33 - CAN YOU SHARE WHAT TYPE OF

28:34 - POTENTIAL RESPONSES THE FUND

28:35 - WILL BE USED FOR THE

28:38 - AVAILABILITY OF FEDERAL FUNDS

28:40 - FOR YOUR AGENCY IS IMPORTANT

28:42 - ADDRESS THESE PROTECTION AND

28:43 - LEGACY ISSUES THAT I MENTIONED

28:47 - IS IS THIS PROPOSED FUND

28:49 - BACKFILL ANY ANY POTENTIAL

28:49 - PROJECTED LOSSES FROM FEDERAL

28:52 - REVENUE? SO I CAN GIVE YOU A

28:53 - REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.

28:54 - BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GET TOO

28:56 - SPECIFIC BECAUSE IT DOES RELATE

29:01 - TO NATIONAL SECURITY. SO LAST

29:02 - YEAR WE SAW A LAPSE OF FUNDING

29:03 - IN ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS WHERE

29:05 - WE HAD.

29:06 - >>FUNDING FROM THE DEPARTMENT

29:11 - OF HOMELAND SECURITY.

29:12 - >>AND THAT.

29:12 - >>UNDER THE PROGRAM TO ENSURE

29:16 - THAT PEOPLE IN SOME VERY

29:16 - POPULATED AREAS OF THE STATE

29:20 - ARE NOT

29:23 - UNDER ATTACK AND IT WAS.

29:26 - THERE'S JUST SO MUCH

29:26 - UNCERTAINTY. I'M SORRY, 2 QUICK

29:27 - QUESTIONS. DOES THAT CONFIRM

29:29 - THAT? YOU'VE TALKED TO THE

29:30 - GOVERNORS ABOUT THIS YES.

29:31 - AND AND UNDER ATTACK FROM HOME.

29:34 - >>WE TALK OFFLINE. I REALLY

29:38 - DON'T WANT TO MAKE THIS PUBLIC.

29:40 - AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MY

29:41 - JOB AND YOUR JOB IS A VERY

29:42 - PUBLIC JOB THAT EVERYTHING THAT

29:43 - WE DISCUSS ALONG THESE LINES

29:48 - SHOULD BE PUBLICLY DISCUSSED.

29:48 - AND EVEN THE FEDERAL FUNDS FOR

29:49 - US. BUT I JUST SAY GIVEN THE

29:53 - WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THERE'S

29:53 - THE ISSUE OF NATIONAL SECURITY

29:57 - THAT SHOULD NOT BE PUBLIC.

29:58 - AND SO IF THERE'S A

29:59 - CONVERSATION TO BE HAD OFFLINE,

30:00 - I DO THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE

30:03 - CITING SECURITY ISSUES THAT WE

30:06 - DO HAVE THAT OFFLINE. SO IF YOU

30:07 - WANT TO CONCLUDE WITH WHAT WE

30:11 - CAN SHARE PUBLICLY AND THEN IF

30:13 - THERE IS A NECESSITY FOR THE

30:14 - CONCERN FOR CONVERSATION

30:16 - OFFLINE, WE CAN DO THAT.

30:18 - I CAN GIVE MORE SPECIFICS

30:20 - OFFLINE. BUT JUST OVERALL,

30:21 - THERE WAS A LAPSE IN FUNDING.

30:22 - WE HAD TO LAY STAFF OFF.

30:24 - WE DIDN'T HAVE.

30:26 - ROOM TO BASICALLY MOVE IN OUR

30:27 - BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO TRANSFER

30:29 - FUNDS OVER TO IT. SO I THINK

30:33 - THIS IS A RESULT FROM THE

30:34 - BUDGET OFFICE, THE BUDGET

30:36 - SECRETARY AND THE GOVERNOR

30:38 - SEEING THIS NEED. IT'S NOT JUST

30:40 - FOR WHEN FUNDING GETS CALLED

30:42 - BACK. IT'S FOR THE LAPSES OF

30:43 - FUNDING THAT MAYBE DON'T GET

30:47 - DISTRIBUTED RIGHT AWAY.

30:48 - >>YOU KNOW, WE WE ADP. WE HAVE

30:50 - A TON OF SPECIAL FUNDS AND WE

30:53 - JUST WE CAN'T MOVE

30:54 - THEM AROUND. SO, YOU KNOW, WITH

30:55 - THIS SPECIFIC CASE, I THINK

30:56 - IT HIGHLIGHTS.

30:58 - >>THE NEED FOR FUNDING THAT'S

31:01 - MAY BE FLEXIBLE WITH THE

31:02 - GOVERNOR'S BUDGET OFFICE THAT

31:05 - THEY CAN SLOT MONEY IN WHERE

31:06 - THEY FEEL THAT IT'S NECESSARY,

31:09 - EVEN IF IT'S JUST FOR A STOPGAP

31:11 - PERIOD OR, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE

31:12 - OTHER AGENCIES ARE DEALING WITH

31:13 - THAT IS THANK YOU. AND I

31:14 - APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

31:15 - TALK ABOUT NATIONAL SECURITY

31:17 - ISSUES PRIVATELY. THANK YOU.

31:19 - >>THANK YOU, JENNA LANEY.

31:20 - REPRESENTATIVE SANCHEZ, THANK

31:21 - YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, GOOD

31:22 - AFTERNOON TO THE SECRETARY'S

31:24 - THEN TO THE PANEL.

31:26 - MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR SECRETARY

31:28 - SHIRLEY. AND I'D LIKE TO TALK

31:32 - THE FOREVER CHEMICALS. THE

31:33 - FAA'S AND THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL

31:37 - I REPRESENT.

31:38 - THE COMMUNITIES OF ABINGTON,

31:40 - UPPER DUBLIN AND THE BUREAU OF

31:40 - ROCKLEDGE IN EASTERN MONTGOMERY

31:44 - COUNTY AND WE'VE SUFFERED SOME

31:46 - PFAS CONTAMINATION FROM THE

31:49 - WILLOW GROVE, JOY, AIR BASE

31:53 - INTO THE AQUIFER

31:55 - NO, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO,

31:58 - YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE SILVER

31:59 - LINING UP HE FINDS IS THAT IT

32:02 - IS ABLE TO BE.

32:04 - FILTERED OUT OF WATER SUPPLIES.

32:05 - BUT WE OBVIOUSLY COME INTO

32:06 - CONTACT WITH IT. MANY OTHER

32:09 - WAYS AND 1, 2, WE TRY TO GET A

32:14 - SENSE OF THE P HAVING THEIR

32:15 - ARMS AROUND THE STATEWIDE

32:18 - LEVELS OF CONTAMINATION AND ANY

32:20 - PLANS THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO TO

32:24 - CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THAT.

32:25 - >>4.

32:25 - >>YOU SET ME UP NICELY TO TALK

32:26 - ABOUT HASKINS. I DON'T KNOW

32:29 - THAT YOU INTENDED TO DO THAT,

32:31 - >>YES, PENNSYLVANIA. WE HAVE A

32:34 - PRETTY LARGE PFAS CONTAMINATION

32:35 - ISSUE ACROSS THE STATE. WE SET

32:39 - OUR FIRST-EVER MCL WHICH IS

32:42 - IN IN PLACE ON THE FEDERAL MCL,

32:43 - STILL HAS NOT BEEN PUT INTO

32:45 - PLACE, BUT ARE MCL IS PUT INTO

32:46 - PLACE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT,

32:49 - WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY

32:51 - AREAS WHERE WE WE KNOW THAT

32:51 - THERE'S CONTAMINATION. WE HAVE

32:55 - WE HAVE THE DATA. ONCE WE WORK

32:58 - WITH THE DRINKING WATER SUPPLY

33:01 - OR TO HAVE

33:03 - THEIR SYSTEM RETROFITTED WITH

33:04 - THE CARBON TECHNOLOGY OR

33:05 - WHATEVER TECHNOLOGY THEY'RE

33:07 - USING TO REMOVE THE P FOSS.

33:08 - THAT'S WHAT ART SAFE, DRINKING

33:11 - WATER SIDE THAT ACTUALLY KICKS

33:14 - OFF AN INVESTIGATION ON OUR

33:15 - HASKER ASIDE, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL

33:16 - CLEANUP IN BROWN FIELDS WHERE

33:17 - THEY GO OUT AND THEY TRY TO

33:18 - IDENTIFY THE SOURCE OF FUNDING

33:19 - IN YOUR CASE, EVERYBODY KNOWS

33:22 - WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. BOT

33:25 - THAT PROGRAM, THEN CAN START

33:28 - IDENTIFYING POTENTIAL

33:29 - REMEDIATION ACTIONS. WE ARE

33:32 - VERY MUCH STRAINED IN THIS

33:34 - FUND, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE ASKING

33:35 - FOR THE 20 MILLION. I WOULD

33:38 - SAY NO STOP GAP THIS YEAR TO

33:40 - ENSURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE.

33:43 - IT'S NOT JUST AN INVESTIGATION.

33:44 - A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE PROVIDING

33:47 - DRINKING WATER TO PEOPLE.

33:48 - THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION RIGHT

33:49 - NOW IN MY HOME TOWN WHERE WE

33:53 - JUST ISSUED A

33:54 - A FISH CONSUMPTION ADVISORY.

33:56 - WE HAVE TOLD FISHERMEN DO NOT

33:57 - EAT THE FISH THAT YOU CATCH

33:58 - FROM THE STREAM BECAUSE THEY'RE

34:02 - CONTAMINATED WITH PFAS. WE ARE

34:02 - TESTING PRIVATE WATER WELLS.

34:04 - THERE'S A LOT OF PRIVATE WATER

34:06 - WELLS ALL OVER PENNSYLVANIA.

34:08 - THAT MIGHT ALSO BE

34:09 - CONTAMINATED. WE ARE INSTALLING

34:11 - POET SYSTEMS, WHICH ARE THE

34:12 - POINT BASICALLY ON THOSE

34:15 - PRIVATE DRINKING

34:16 - WATER WELLS. IT'S A IT'S AN

34:17 - INCREDIBLY LARGE CHALLENGE.

34:19 - I DO THINK WE HAVE OUR ARMS

34:20 - AROUND IT MUCH BETTER THAN A

34:24 - LOT OF STATES DO WHERE WE'RE

34:25 - NOW STARTING TO LOOK AT HOW DO

34:26 - WE ADDRESS IT IN BIO SOLIDS?

34:30 - WE'RE SEEING AND MAYBE SOME

34:32 - HISTORY ARE SEEING SOME OF THE

34:33 - CONTAMINATION COMING FROM BY

34:33 - ASSAULTS WERE LOOKING AT OUR

34:34 - OWN PROGRAMS AND SAYING HOW CAN

34:35 - WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT

34:39 - MAKING THIS PROBLEM WORSE AND

34:40 - HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE

34:42 - PROTECTING THE PUBLIC?

34:43 - >>YOU MENTIONED THE 20 MILLION

34:46 - DOLLAR POTENTIAL INCREASE.

34:47 - WOULD THAT BE WHAT ANY OF THAT

34:50 - BE USED FOR THESE FILTRATION

34:52 - DEVICES AND OKAY?

34:53 - >>OH, YES. THAT IS PART OF OUR

34:56 - OUR PROGRAM. GREAT. IS THERE

34:57 - ANY SIGN OF CONTRIBUTION FROM?

35:01 - THE WATER SUPPLIERS TO IS THAT

35:04 - TYPICALLY.

35:07 - >>SO SO THE LIKE THE POET

35:07 - SYSTEMS ARE GO ON ON PRIVATE

35:10 - WELLS. THE WATER SUPPLIERS.

35:12 - >>INPUT THE CONTAMINATION

35:13 - THERE. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'RE

35:14 - THE ONES THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH

35:15 - IT BECAUSE THEY ARE DELIVERING

35:16 - IT TO THEIR CUSTOMERS. THEY

35:17 - HAVE TO MAKE HAVE AN OBLIGATION

35:19 - TO MAKE SURE WATER THAT THEY'RE

35:20 - DELIVERING TO THEIR CUSTOMERS

35:23 - AS CLEAN. SO A LOT OF THEM WILL

35:27 - GO THROUGH PENN BEST FOR GRANTS

35:28 - AND LOANS OR THE INSULATION,

35:29 - BUT ARE OF THE EQUIPMENT AT THE

35:31 - PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS. BUT AT

35:32 - THE PRIVATE WATER SYSTEMS, IF

35:36 - THERE'S NO RESPONSIBLE PARTY,

35:37 - WHICH IN SOME CASES THERE IS.

35:40 - BUT MOST CASES THERE IS NOT.

35:40 - AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S

35:43 - FUNDED THROUGH.

35:44 - >>AND WITH A FEW MOMENTS I HAVE

35:47 - REMAINING, ARE THERE.

35:50 - SO YOU TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

35:50 - REMEDIATION AND ADDRESSING SOME

35:51 - OF THE CONTAMINATION. THAT'S

35:54 - THERE. HOW ABOUT THE

35:57 - PROSPECTIVE CONTAMINATION?

36:00 - BECAUSE

36:00 - IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE'RE

36:01 - STILL USING THESE PHONES AND A

36:02 - SIGNIFICANT FIRE EVENTS.

36:02 - AND, YOU KNOW, WELL, VERY

36:03 - EFFECTIVE. THEY DO CONTAIN THE

36:06 - CHEMICALS.

36:07 - >>SO I THINK WE'VE DONE A WHOLE

36:09 - LOT OF EDUCATION WITH THE STATE

36:10 - FIRE COMMISSIONER ABOUT WHEN TO

36:12 - USE THESE PHONES. I DO KNOW

36:13 - THAT THERE'S SOME LEGISLATION

36:16 - PENDING IN THE SENATE THAT

36:17 - WOULD RESTRICT FIRE DEPARTMENTS

36:22 - FROM USING THE PHONES IN

36:23 - TRAINING ACTIVITIES. BUT WE ARE

36:24 - ENCOURAGING THOSE DEPARTMENTS

36:28 - TO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, GIVE

36:31 - BACK OR DISPOSE OF TRIPLE LEFT

36:34 - PHONES. THE ONES THAT DO

36:35 - CONTAIN FLUORINE AND SWITCH TO

36:35 - FLUORINE FREE PHONES BECAUSE

36:38 - THEY DO EXIST. THANK YOU SO

36:41 - MUCH. THANK THE GENTLEMAN.

36:41 - REPRESENTATIVE BROWN, THANK

36:44 - YOU.

36:45 - >>SECRETARY, SURELY THIS

36:47 - QUESTION IS FOR YOU. SO I WANT

36:49 - TO TALK A BIT ABOUT DATA

36:50 - CENTERS, WHICH I THINK MANY

36:52 - OF US THAT HAVE BEEN APPROACHED

36:54 - AND IN OUR DISTRICTS, I KNOW IN

36:55 - MY DISTRICT THAT HAD 3

36:56 - POTENTIALLY WANTING TO MOVE IN

37:00 - SO DO YOU KNOW IF THE OFFICE

37:03 - OF TRANSPORTATION OR

37:05 - TRANSPORTATION, THE OFFICE OF

37:06 - TRANSFORMATION AND OPPORTUNITY

37:07 - IS GOING TO BE THE LEAD OFFICE.

37:15 - FOR GRID. THE GOVERNOR'S

37:15 - RESPONSIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE

37:18 - DEVELOPMENT, STANDARD.

37:20 - AND WILL THE DP BE INVOLVED?

37:23 - THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I.

37:25 - >>I DON'T BELIEVE WILL BE

37:27 - RESPONSIBLE FOR GRID. I DO

37:31 - THINK WHAT WHAT GREAT IS IS

37:34 - IT'S A IT'S AN

37:37 - OVERVIEW OF

37:38 - >>THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO SEE

37:39 - DATA CENTERS OPERATE IN

37:40 - PENNSYLVANIA TO BE ABLE TO

37:41 - RECEIVE LIKE THAT. THOSE

37:44 - HIGHEST STATE BENEFITS. SO I

37:47 - THINK THE CDC WILL HAVE A

37:49 - PRETTY BIG A ROLE TO PLAY WITH

37:51 - REGARD TO IF IT'S USED FOR ANY

37:54 - ANY TYPE OF TAX BENEFIT ON OUR

37:59 - SIDE. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, I

38:02 - THINK THERE ARE SOME AT

38:03 - PROJECTS DATA CENTERS THAT ARE

38:06 - ON THE FAST TRACK LIST FOR

38:08 - PERMITS, WHICH IS JUST REALLY

38:09 - ENHANCED TRACKING DENNIS,

38:10 - MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING

38:12 - ON TOP OF THOSE PERMITS.

38:15 - WE WANT TO SEE THOSE DEVELOPERS

38:16 - USING THE HIGHEST STANDARDS

38:19 - THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND THAT'S

38:20 - WHENEVER THEY WOULD BE ABLE

38:21 - TO RECEIVE THAT FAST-TRACKING

38:25 - BENEFITS, SOULS. AND I WILL DO

38:27 - IT. BUT I WILL SAY THAT I'VE

38:30 - HEARD WITH THE HOMER CITY

38:31 - DEVELOPMENT THAT, IN FACT,

38:31 - THEY'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF

38:32 - SUPPORT FROM YOUR OFFICE

38:35 - PERMITS HAVE BEEN.

38:35 - >>MOVING QUICKER, WHICH IS

38:37 - GREAT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

38:38 - BUT I I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT

38:42 - THE ENVIRONMENT AS WELL AS YOU

38:46 - KNOW, THE POTENTIAL

38:47 - THE TILLER, THE RATES FOR

38:49 - CONSUMERS IN MY AREA. AND NOW,

38:51 - YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT

38:52 - THAT OFFICE IS NOT GOING TO

38:54 - BE ENGAGED.

38:56 - >>WELL, I THINK THEY WILL BE

38:57 - ENGAGED, BUT IT WON'T BE THE

38:59 - LEAD OFFICE.

38:59 - >>I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW

39:02 - THAT

39:03 - WE'VE HAD THAT IN DEPTH OF

39:04 - CONVERSATION. I MEAN, I THOUGHT

39:06 - ABOUT IT FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL

39:07 - SIDE. I THINK WE WE PLAN ON

39:11 - LEAVING THAT

39:12 - YOU KNOW, BUT I DO THINK I

39:13 - MEAN, I'M OBVIOUSLY THEY WOULD

39:14 - HAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ROLE.

39:18 - I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT.

39:19 - >>POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS MOVING

39:21 - IN AND NOW SENDING MIXED

39:22 - MESSAGES AS TO YOU KNOW WHAT

39:24 - THE STANDARDS ARE MOVING

39:25 - FORWARD NOW WITH REGGIE OUT

39:28 - OF THE WAY, DOES THIS ADD

39:28 - ANOTHER LAYER OF COMPLEXITY

39:29 - AND WHO'S LEADING THE CHARGE?

39:33 - >>I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK

39:36 - THE INTENTION HERE IS TO

39:38 - NECESSARILY CHANGE

39:39 - REQUIREMENTS. BUT IT'S TO SAY

39:42 - IF YOU WANT

39:44 - TO RECEIVE THE THE STATE

39:45 - SUPPORT THAT A LOT OF THEM ARE

39:46 - SEEKING THROUGH TAX BENEFITS

39:50 - THROUGH, YOU KNOW, ENHANCED

39:51 - PERMITTING, THEN THEY HAVE TO

39:54 - DO

39:55 - SOMETHING MORE. SO THINK OF IT.

39:59 - I AT LEAST SOMETHING AT OF IT

40:00 - LIKE A MENU. IF YOU DO, YOU

40:01 - KNOW THIS, IF YOU BRING YOUR

40:06 - OWN ENERGY RIGHT, IF YOU.

40:09 - DUE SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY

40:10 - OUTREACH TO FIND OUT WHAT THOSE

40:11 - COMMUNITY NEEDS. OUR NEW WORK

40:11 - WITH THAT COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS

40:17 - THOSE NEEDS. IF YOU DO ENHANCED

40:19 - ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION, IF

40:21 - YOU CITE ON AN ABANDONED MINE

40:23 - LAND OR MAYBE A PREVIOUSLY

40:24 - DEVELOPED LAND, THEN YOU GET

40:26 - THESE HIGHER STATE BENEFITS

40:30 - LIKE SPEEDY PERMITTING, YOU

40:31 - KNOW, TAX REVENUES. BUT IF

40:31 - YOU'RE JUST LOOKING TO SITE

40:34 - IN PENNSYLVANIA.

40:36 - THE STANDARD THAT IT'S NOT, IT

40:37 - WON'T CHANGE THAT. IF THAT

40:39 - MAKES SENSE. HERES THE FLOOR

40:41 - AND THEN THERE'S THE CEILING.

40:43 - IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT SEALING YOU

40:44 - GET THE BENEFITS, BUT YOU CAN

40:45 - STILL COME IN ON THE FLOOR.

40:47 - SO THERE WON'T BE SPECIFIC,

40:48 - REFORMED PERMITTING PROCESSES

40:50 - THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF.

40:51 - >>NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

40:53 - NO.

40:54 - >>I APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHT.

40:57 - THANK YOU.

41:03 - THANK YOU, GENERAL. ANY

41:06 - REPRESENTATIVE YOUNG THAT

41:07 - AFTERNOON KNOWN EVERYBODY.

41:08 - SECRETARY DUNN QUESTION AROUND

41:12 - THE BACKLOG OF STATE PARK

41:13 - INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AS WE

41:14 - ARE NOW IN 2026, WE'VE BEEN

41:16 - ANTICIPATING THIS YEAR FOR SO

41:18 - LONG, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WORLD

41:19 - LOOKING AT THE COMMONWEALTH.

41:21 - WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE

41:21 - ARE UP AND READY, BUT THEY'RE

41:24 - STILL A BACKLOG OF ISSUES WITH

41:27 - WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

41:28 - SO A RECENT REPORT BY THE

41:31 - PENNSYLVANIA

41:33 - PARTS AND FOREST FOUNDATION

41:35 - DOCUMENTED A 1 BILLION DOLLAR

41:37 - BACKLOG LIST OF PROJECTS TO BE

41:38 - ADDRESSED IN THE STATE'S PARKS

41:41 - AND FORESTS HAS AGENCY TAKEN

41:44 - ANY STRIDE AND REDUCING THIS

41:44 - BACKLOG. AND THANK YOU FOR THE

41:46 - QUESTION IS A GREAT QUESTION.

41:48 - AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE

41:49 - THIS. BODY IS PASSING OF MY

41:51 - HOUSE BILL. 1331, THAT'S A HUGE

41:52 - HELP.

41:55 - >>AND WE HAVE MADE GREAT

41:56 - PROGRESS IN THE TOURNAMENT ON

41:56 - YOUR BACK TO DETAIL SOME OF

41:57 - THAT PROGRESS AND WHERE WE ARE

41:58 - NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

42:02 - THE QUESTION. TALK TO START OFF

42:05 - BY THANKING THIS GROUP AND ALSO

42:06 - GOVERNOR SHAPIRO FOR THE

42:08 - 112 MILLION DOLLARS. THAT WAS

42:09 - AUTHORIZED UNDER 2023 BUDGET.

42:10 - AND SO WE'RE ONLY GAS LEASE

42:14 - FUN MONEY AND ALL THAT MONEY

42:15 - WAS GOING RIGHT BACK INTO THE

42:17 - REPAIRS. A STATE PARK

42:19 - INFRASTRUCTURE. WE DO HAVE WE

42:20 - HAVE ABOUT 5 BILLION DOLLARS

42:21 - WORTH OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN

42:25 - PARKS AND FORESTS TO THINK

42:26 - ABOUT 145 DAMSON 178 SEWAGE

42:30 - TREATMENT PLANTS IN A 78 WATER

42:32 - TREATMENT PLANTS. THOSE TYPES

42:33 - OF THINGS ARE RATHER EXPENSIVE.

42:35 - ALMOST A 3500 MILES OF ROUTES.

42:38 - SO WE DO HAVE A

42:39 - BIG INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE

42:42 - BEEN KNOCKING DOWN THAT

42:43 - BACKLOG. AND AND WE AT THIS

42:44 - CURRENT POINT, WE HAVE ABOUT

42:46 - 818 MILLION DOLLARS THAT ARE ON

42:49 - PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THE

42:50 - BACKLOG LIST AND WE'RE

42:50 - PRIORITIZING THOSE FROM LOOKING

42:53 - AT.

42:55 - PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY

42:55 - OPPORTUNITIES. AND A LOT OF

42:59 - THAT, THE SUNDANCE AND AND

43:01 - BRIDGE RECONSTRUCTION. AND THEN

43:03 - WE LOOK AT THE LEGAL

43:04 - REQUIREMENTS, WHETHER ITS

43:05 - REGULATORY OR BY STATUTE TO

43:08 - REPAIR FACILITIES THERE AND

43:09 - THEN FINALLY, WE DO LOOK AT

43:11 - OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN

43:12 - INCREASE THE THE SERVICE TO

43:14 - THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR VISITING

43:17 - THEIR PARKS AND PARKS.

43:18 - >>THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I

43:19 - KNOW 2026. US HERE. WE'VE BEEN

43:22 - TALKING ABOUT THIS YEAR FOR

43:24 - SUCH A LONG TIME. BUT ACTUALLY,

43:25 - AS WE'RE GOING BEYOND 2026,

43:28 - WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?

43:30 - US MOVING FORWARD IN A WAY THAT

43:31 - EVEN THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN

43:35 - THE COMMONWEALTH WHO WANTS TO

43:36 - EXPERIENCE THESE GREAT SPACES

43:37 - THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AS WE'RE

43:40 - BRINGING AND WHAT WORRIES.

43:43 - WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE A

43:45 - REASONABLE TIME FRAME WITH AN

43:46 - INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO

43:47 - REALLY SAY THAT WE ARE READY

43:48 - TO MEET THE WORLD IN WHAT YEAR.

43:55 - >>AND THIS IS THE WORLD'S

43:56 - COMING AND WE'LL WE'LL MEET

43:56 - THEM WITH 1450 STAFF THAT ARE

44:01 - READY TO MEET THEM. I JUST

44:04 - THINK IT'S LIKE YOU POINT OUT

44:04 - WE GO BEYOND 2026. IS CONSTANT

44:06 - WORK IS CONSTANT IMPROVEMENT.

44:07 - WE LOOK AT OUR POPULATION BASE

44:07 - IN PENNSYLVANIA. WE HAVE AN

44:10 - AGING POPULATION. ACCESSIBILITY

44:13 - JUST IN THE PHYSICAL SENSE AND

44:15 - ACCESSIBILITY FOR ALL AND A

44:16 - WELCOMING FOR ALL MEANS EVEN

44:18 - BETTER DESIGN AND BETTER

44:18 - THOUGHT GIVEN AND

44:20 - INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW WE

44:22 - CONNECT THINGS. BUT WE ARE

44:24 - WORKING. THIS IS LEE WITH

44:25 - SUPPORT FROM THIS BODY AND THE

44:27 - SENATE ON KNOWING YOUR RIGHTS

44:30 - TO ALL REALLY DOING THE

44:30 - SUSTAINABLE INFRASTRUCTURE.

44:33 - A GREEN INITIATIVE.

44:34 - MAYBE JOHN CAN TOUCH ON THAT.

44:35 - ARE GREEN INITIATIVE ACTUALLY

44:40 - SAVES US MONEY. WE BUILD ISN'T

44:41 - GEESE AND SOLAR. WE ACTUALLY

44:42 - RETURN MONEY TO THE COFFERS

44:45 - OF THE ONLY MENTION THAT

44:46 - QUICKLY RUN OUT. I'M SURE IT'S

44:47 - FAR AS THE QUARANTINE

44:50 - GUARANTEED ENERGY

44:51 - SAVINGS ACT ITS AN OPPORTUNITY

44:51 - FOR PRODUCING OR ANY OTHER

44:53 - STATE AGENCY ACTUALLY WORKING

44:54 - THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT JONES

44:56 - SERVICES TO CONTRACT FOR

45:00 - ENERGY-SAVING WORK ON

45:01 - THEIR FACILITIES. SO IF THE

45:01 - SCENE ARE WE, WE ARE IN THE

45:03 - PROCESS OF ACTUALLY FINISHING

45:04 - ALL OF OUR FACILITIES ACROSS

45:07 - THE COMMONWEALTH. WE'VE

45:08 - INVESTED ABOUT 48 MILLION

45:11 - DOLLARS WORTH OF INFRASTRUCTURE

45:12 - WORK THAT WILL REDUCE OUR

45:13 - ENERGY CONSUMPTION CONSUMPTION

45:15 - OF THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

45:16 - I-71 MILLION DOLLARS. SO WE'RE

45:19 - GOING TO BE SAVING ABOUT THE

45:20 - MILLION DOLLARS YEAR IN OUR

45:21 - INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE OF OUR

45:21 - INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGES AND

45:24 - ENERGIES.

45:25 - THANK YOU. SO TO ANSWER YOUR

45:28 - QUESTION, WE ARE READY.

45:28 - ALL RIGHT. I LOVE IT. THANK YOU

45:29 - SO MUCH. THANK THE GENTLE LADY.

45:33 - REPRESENTATIVE BART, THANK YOU,

45:36 - CHAIRMAN AND WELCOME.

45:38 - >>TEAMS DP AND DCNR. GLAD TO

45:41 - HAVE YOU HERE TODAY. SECRETARY

45:42 - DENIS, IF YOU WILL, THAT THE

45:44 - GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET.

45:45 - IT INCLUDES SIGNIFICANT GENERAL

45:50 - FUND INCREASES FOR BOTH

45:51 - STATE PARK OPERATIONS ESTATE

45:52 - FORCE OPERATIONS DUE TO THE

45:53 - SHIFTING THAT SHIFTING THE

45:57 - FUNDS SOURCE FROM THE OIL GAS

45:58 - LEASE FUN WHERE THESE LINES

46:02 - WERE FUNDED LAST YEAR CAN YOU

46:03 - PROVIDE US WITH AN UPDATE

46:04 - REGARDING THE STATUS OF THE OIL

46:07 - AND GAS LEASE FUN GIVEN THIS

46:11 - PROPOSED SHIFT AND IS THIS

46:12 - SOMETHING THAT YOU REQUESTED

46:15 - FOR

46:16 - OPERATING APPROPRIATIONS?

46:17 - >>WE WILL PROVIDE OUR BEST

46:17 - ESTIMATE ON OIL AND GAS.

46:19 - LEASE FUN. LOOKING AHEAD.

46:23 - AND IT IS HIGHLY VARIABLE.

46:24 - THE AVERAGE OVER THE YEARS

46:26 - ABOUT 95 MILLION. SO THIS YEAR

46:29 - IS IS BETTER THAN AND THAT

46:30 - MEANS WE'RE ESTIMATING

46:32 - 104 MILLION THIS YEAR.

46:34 - BUDGET YEAR. THAT WORST WE'RE

46:36 - SITTING IN NOW THAT ARE COMING

46:37 - OUT OF WAS EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH

46:39 - AT 145 MILLION IS SITUATIONS

46:43 - IN EUROPE AND RUSSIA AND THINGS

46:44 - BEYOND OUR CONTROL. SO IT IS

46:45 - LIKE ANY ENERGY FUND IS UP AND

46:48 - DOWN UP AND DOWN.

46:50 - HISTORICALLY WE WERE A GENERAL

46:51 - FUND FUNDED AGENCY COMPLETELY.

46:55 - IT WASN'T UNTIL ON IT LEASES

46:57 - 8.10 THAT WE BECAME PARTIALLY

46:58 - FUNDED, OPERATES THE OIL AND

47:01 - GAS. A

47:02 - COUPLE LAWSUITS LIMITED.

47:05 - I THINK THE OIL AND GAS IS

47:06 - ALLOWING A SLEAZE FUN ON

47:06 - BUDGET. SO WE GOT HIT BY THAT.

47:07 - GUIDED BY THE BEST ESTIMATES.

47:11 - AND I THINK THAT VARIABILITY IS

47:14 - SOMETHING WE CAN EXPECT IN

47:15 - PERPETUITY IF WE DEPEND.

47:16 - IF WE CONTINUE DEPENDENT ON

47:17 - GAS LEASE FUND FOR PART OF

47:19 - OPERATING BUDGET.

47:20 - >>OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU CAN'T

47:22 - GET CAN YOU TELL MUCH TELL US

47:24 - HOW MUCH REVENUE THE OIL AND

47:27 - GAS LEASE FUND IS RECEIVING

47:29 - ROYALTIES FROM NON SURFACE

47:29 - IMPACT UNCONVENTIONAL NATURAL

47:34 - GAS DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING STATE

47:34 - PARK IN STATE FOREST LANDS AS

47:38 - WELL AS UNDER STREAM BEDS.

47:40 - >>YEAH, I THINK.

47:42 - >>I HAVE THAT.

47:42 - >>IF YOU HAVE A HAND RECOUNT.

47:50 - >>YEAH, YEAH, I CAN'T. I DON'T

47:50 - THINK I'M PREPARED TO DIVIDE.

47:51 - I MENTIONED ON WHAT I WANT YOU

47:53 - TO TAKE A CRACK AT THAT.

47:55 - IT IS HARD TO SLICE AND THOSE

47:56 - INDIVIDUAL WE CAN CERTAINLY

47:58 - PROVIDE WHAT WE CAN DO HERE.

47:59 - WE CAN PROVIDE IN DETAIL LATER.

48:01 - THAT NUMBER IS SO SO WE HAVE A

48:05 - OVER 600, ALMOST 672.

48:05 - NON CONVENTIONAL WELLS WITH THE

48:08 - SINGER LANCE RIGHT. AND THAT'S

48:10 - AND 74 LEASES ABOUT TWO-THIRDS

48:13 - OF THOSE LEASES HAVE BEEN.

48:15 - I'VE BEEN DEVELOPED. SO WE HAVE

48:16 - ABOUT 37% OF THOSE LEASES THAT

48:19 - ARE YET TO BE DEVELOPED.

48:24 - WE ALSO HAVE ABOUT 160 WELL

48:24 - PADS. PROPERTY QUESTION WAS

48:27 - ABOUT.

48:27 - IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE TRYING

48:30 - TO DIVIDE UP. REVENUE DEVELOP

48:33 - FROM.

48:34 - ADS THAT ARE GOING TO SEE NEW

48:34 - ORLEANS IN PADS THAT ARE NOT.

48:39 - >>SO SO THAN ON SERVICE IMPACT,

48:40 - UNCONVENTIONAL NATURAL. BUT

48:43 - GAS DEVELOPMENT FROM THE STATE

48:44 - PARK IN STATE FOREST LANDS AS

48:46 - WELL AS THE BEDS. AND LET LET

48:49 - ME ASK YOU THIS. MAYBE MAYBE

48:50 - WHAT PORTION OF THE ROYALTIES

48:52 - CAN BE TRACED TO THE STREAM

48:52 - BEDS TONIGHT IS AT AN EASIER

48:54 - QUESTION. WE CAN CERTAINLY GET

48:58 - THAT FOR YOU.

48:58 - >>I DON'T I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE

49:02 - WITH ME RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S

49:03 - AN UNPREDICTABLE OF REVENUE

49:05 - STREAM FOR US BECAUSE THEY CAN

49:05 - BE ANYWHERE IN THE

49:07 - COMMONWEALTH. WE MANAGE THE

49:08 - LEAST. IT SAYS ANY PLACE THE

49:11 - COMPANY IS.

49:14 - AIMING TO DO A LOT ARE ALL

49:15 - UNDER A STREAM. IT BY REALLY

49:16 - ISN'T AN ENVIRONMENTAL MESS

49:16 - BECAUSE IT SAVES HIM FROM DOING

49:17 - THAT. A PAT ON THE OTHER SIDE

49:19 - OF THE RIVER, THEY THEY POP UP

49:20 - ON PRODUCTIVELY FOR US. THEY'RE

49:22 - NOT IN THE STATE LANDS.

49:23 - >>I MEAN, WE DO HAVE ABOUT 40

49:27 - LEASES STREAM

49:28 - BED LEASES JUST OVER 500 WELL

49:29 - BORES UNDERNEATH THEM UP.

49:33 - >>THIS RIVER LANDS. I DON'T

49:35 - HAVE THAT. THE REVENUE THAT'S

49:36 - GENERATED FROM THOSE. BUT I CAN

49:37 - CERTAINLY GET THAT. I'LL MAKE A

49:39 - REQUEST THAT I THINK YOU VERY

49:39 - MUCH. I GET THAT FOR YOU.

49:41 - THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN.

49:41 - >>THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

49:43 - REPRESENTATIVE MULLINS.

49:46 - >>THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND

49:47 - THANK YOU TO SOME BOTH

49:48 - SECRETARIES INTO YOUR TEAMS.

49:50 - AN ATTEMPT THE IMPOSSIBLE TODAY

49:51 - AND GET A QUESTION FOR BOTH

49:54 - TPM DCNR. THE FIRST TO BE

49:55 - OFFERED UP REGARDING DATA

50:01 - CENTERS THE AVERAGE

50:02 - PENNSYLVANIAN UNDERSTANDS THAT

50:03 - DATA CENTERS ARE PART OF OUR

50:06 - NEW WORLD.

50:07 - AS TECHNOLOGY MARCHES FORWARD

50:10 - AND REQUIRES THEM.

50:11 - I ALSO THINK THOSE SAME THE

50:13 - SAME TYPICAL AVERAGE RESIDENT

50:17 - IN PENNSYLVANIA BELIEVES THAT

50:18 - THERE THAT THOSE BELONG, IF

50:19 - THEY ARE APPROVED IN ANY OF

50:22 - OUR COMMUNITIES, THEY BELONG IN

50:23 - INDUSTRIAL AREAS AWAY FROM

50:25 - RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND

50:29 - IT MUST BE HELD TO THE HIGHEST

50:29 - ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY

50:32 - STANDARDS POSSIBLE.

50:35 - WHEN I PUT MY WHEN I THINK BACK

50:37 - TO MY DISTRICT AND THE

50:40 - POTENTIAL FOR.

50:41 - NUMEROUS DATA CENTERS JUST IN

50:44 - ONE MUNICIPALITY.

50:47 - LET ALONE THE DELUGE OF

50:48 - APPLICATIONS AND INTEREST

50:49 - ACROSS LACKAWANNA COUNTY.

50:51 - I THINK THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE

50:55 - FEEL OVERWHELMED AND

50:56 - UNDERSTANDABLY CONCERNED.

50:56 - AND I COUNTED AMONG THOSE WITH

51:00 - THOSE CONCERNS. ABOUT THE

51:03 - RESILIENCY OF BASIC NEEDS

51:06 - POWER, WATER.

51:08 - AND THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF

51:11 - OUR COMMUNITIES AND

51:12 - OUR ENVIRONMENT. SO TO THAT

51:13 - END, DOES DP CURRENTLY POSSESS

51:14 - THE ABILITY? WHEN THEY ARE?

51:18 - REVIEWING APPLICATIONS FOR

51:21 - OTHER INDUSTRIES. DATA CENTERS

51:24 - INCLUDED.

51:24 - DO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO

51:27 - CONSIDER THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT

51:30 - OR EFFECTS ON

51:31 - AN AREA?

51:31 - >>YEAH. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT

51:34 - QUESTION. ONE THING TO JUST TO

51:36 - MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL CLEAR

51:37 - ON HERE WHERE THE DATA CENTER

51:41 - IS LOCATED IS STRICTLY A

51:42 - MUNICIPALITY DECISION.

51:42 - DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE ANY

51:45 - OVERSIGHT ON SIGHTING. WHAT WE

51:48 - DO IS WE DO PERMITTING FOR THE

51:51 - CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUCS THAT

51:52 - THE DATA CENTER IS IN AND THEN

51:55 - ANY ACTIVITIES THAT THEY WOULD

51:56 - NEED TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE.

51:57 - SO, YOU KNOW, WATER WITHDRAWALS

52:00 - AND WHATNOT.

52:02 - WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR SPECIFIC

52:05 - YOUR

52:08 - SPECIFIC BLANKING WHAT WAS THIS

52:09 - IS BASICALLY DOES DP OF THE

52:11 - ABILITY TO CONSIDER THE

52:13 - CUMULATIVE A CUMULATIVE BACKUP.

52:14 - THANK YOU BECAUSE I KNOW THERE

52:16 - ARE SO MANY THERE ARE A LITANY

52:16 - OF APPLICATIONS THAT GOING FOR

52:20 - ANY SORT OF DEVELOPMENT

52:20 - >>DISSENTERS INCLUDE HAVE THIS

52:21 - IS I MEAN, THIS IS A REALLY

52:24 - GREAT QUESTION. WE

52:26 - DO NOT WHEN IT COMES TO AIR

52:27 - QUALITY. WE DO HAVE TO LOOK

52:31 - AT THAT AREA.

52:32 - >>AND AND MIGHT HAVE TO PUT

52:33 - ADDITIONAL CONTROLS OUR CONTROL

52:37 - MECHANISMS

52:37 - IN PLACE. IF IT THERE IS AN

52:39 - AIR SOURCE. BUT BUT OVERALL, WE

52:42 - DO NOT HAVE THE LEGAL ABILITY

52:43 - TO CONSIDER CUMULATIVE IMPACTS

52:46 - IN

52:47 - PERMITTING DECISIONS.

52:49 - >>WELL, WE'RE JUST WE ARE.

52:50 - WE APPRECIATE THAT. YOU HAVE

52:51 - TO ENFORCE THE LAWS ON THE

52:52 - BOOKS AND WE ARE WORKING TO

52:55 - PUT LAWS ON THE BOOKS THAT

52:56 - WOULD ENABLE YOU TO DO JUST

52:59 - THAT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT

53:00 - WE'RE PROTECTING THOSE

53:00 - PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITIES,

53:04 - THE TO SECRETARY DONE TO YOUR

53:10 - TEAM. I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE

53:11 - PENNSYLVANIA OUTDOOR COURT.

53:14 - IT'S NOW IN ITS 11TH YEAR.

53:14 - YES, AND I KNOW OVER 1000 YOUNG

53:17 - PEOPLE HAVE PARTICIPATED.

53:19 - SO IF YOU JUST TELL US ABOUT

53:21 - THEIR WORK AND HOW WE CAN

53:23 - FURTHER ENGAGE THE NEXT

53:25 - GENERATION, MY KIDS INCLUDED IN

53:27 - THE CONSERVATION IN THE

53:28 - OUTDOORS.

53:29 - >>YOU KNOW, VALUE. WHAT IS YOU

53:32 - KNOW, HOW HARD THEY WORK TOO.

53:33 - THE GOT TO GIVE CREDIT TO THE

53:35 - DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND

53:37 - INDUSTRY THEY FUNDED OR IS

53:38 - THERE A REDEVELOPMENT FUND

53:41 - REEMPLOYMENT FIND A MAINE AND

53:43 - IF A KEY PARTNER IN THE

53:43 - TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT OF

53:45 - THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WORK

53:48 - SKILLS AND THROUGH WORKFORCE

53:49 - TRAINING. BUT FOR US, WE EXPOSE

53:50 - THE OUTDOOR COURT OF A NUMBER

53:54 - OF OUR CATEGORIES OF WORKERS.

53:54 - THEY WORK SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH

53:56 - MAINTENANCE WITH MANAGEMENT

53:58 - RANGERS WITH EDUCATORS. SO THEY

54:00 - GET A BROADER ARRAY OF

54:01 - EXPERIENCES AND THEIR SOFT

54:03 - SKILLS LIKE SHOWING UP ON TIME

54:05 - COMMUNICATING WORKING AS A

54:07 - TEAM. ALL THE THINGS NEEDED

54:10 - FOR EMPLOYMENT AND WITH OUR

54:11 - STAFF AND LABOR AND INDUSTRY,

54:14 - THEY'RE AT IT. IT RESUME

54:17 - BUILDING AND JOB SKILLS IN

54:18 - TERMS OF FINDING A JOB, HOW TO

54:18 - SEEK A JOB, HOW TO DO AN

54:19 - INTERVIEW. SO WE BUILD A FULL

54:21 - SET OF SKILLS FOR THESE YOUNG

54:23 - PEOPLE. THE PARENT OF THE

54:24 - WORKFORCE. HAPPILY, WE'VE BEEN

54:28 - ABLE TO I ARE 62 THESE FOLKS

54:29 - AND I CAN THINK OF A FEW OF

54:30 - THEM THAT I'VE KNOWN FROM THE

54:33 - FIRST DAY THEY WALKED IN.

54:36 - YOU SCREW AND I REMEMBER THEM

54:36 - WHEN A MAN WALKED IN THE DOOR,

54:37 - YOU KNOW, KELSEY AND QUINN,

54:39 - VERY YOUNG AND THEY BECAME

54:40 - OUTDOOR COURT WHO LEADERS AND

54:44 - NOW THEY'RE ON OUR STAFF.

54:45 - SO IT WAS VERY GRATIFYING TO

54:49 - SEE THE DEVELOPMENT OF YOUNG

54:49 - PEOPLE AND OUR WORKFORCE ABOUT

54:51 - I'D SAY OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM

54:52 - PROBABLY WOULD ALL SAY ALL THE

54:53 - PROGRESS WE HAVE IS THE ONE

54:53 - THAT REALLY WARMS OUR HEART

54:56 - THE MOST.

54:56 - >>REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.

54:57 - THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE

54:58 - AND FOR MAKING 2 QUESTIONS

54:59 - POSSIBLE. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

55:02 - REPRESENTATIVE RUGBY, THANK

55:06 - YOU, CHAIRMAN. THIS ISN'T FOR

55:07 - SECRETARY SHIRLEY IN REFERENCE

55:09 - TO BIO SOLIDS. I KNOW MEMBERS

55:10 - OF THIS COMMITTEE HAVE RAISED

55:11 - CONCERNS WITH UB UP AND WE

55:14 - CANNOT HAVE AN UPDATE AND

55:15 - CLARIFICATION OF WHAT DPS

55:16 - POSITION CURRENTLY IS

55:19 - SPECIFICALLY ON 2 ISSUES.

55:21 - ONE IS THE AP BYPASSING THE

55:22 - ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY BOARD

55:25 - REGULATORY PROCESS AND

55:26 - IMPLEMENTING MAJOR BIO SOLIDS

55:28 - OF POLICY CHANGES THROUGH

55:29 - PERMIT REVISIONS WHEN THOSE

55:30 - CHANGES WILL RAISE COSTS FOR

55:31 - MUNICIPAL AUTHORITIES, INCREASE

55:33 - RATES AND TAXES FOR

55:35 - CONSTITUENTS AND LIMIT FARMERS.

55:38 - ACCESS TO BIO SOLIDS WITHOUT

55:39 - LEGISLATIVE OVERSIGHT WERE

55:40 - CLEAR. COST-BENEFIT

55:42 - JUSTIFICATION. SECOND PART IS

55:42 - ARE YOU AWARE THAT PENNSYLVANIA

55:45 - MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY ASSOCIATION

55:46 - AMONG OTHER STAKEHOLDERS HAVE

55:47 - EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERN ABOUT

55:49 - THE SUBSTANCE AND PROCESS OF

55:51 - THE SWEEPING CHANGES BY YOUR

55:52 - AGENCY. THIS IS A REFLECTED IN

55:55 - THE 2026 P M A RESOLUTION WHICH

55:58 - REFERS TO THE LEGISLATIVE

56:00 - BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEES

56:03 - COMMISSIONED BY MY HOUSE

56:06 - RESOLUTION. ONE 94 1.49.

56:10 - IN 2021. 2022 SESSION, WHICH

56:10 - DETERMINED THAT SUCH MAJOR

56:12 - REVISIONS SHOULD GO THROUGH

56:14 - REGULATORY AND LEGISLATIVE

56:17 - REVIEW AND NOT BY GENERAL

56:18 - PERMIT CHANGE.

56:19 - >>THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

56:24 - SO WE RECENTLY UNDERWENT A

56:25 - WORKGROUP PROCESS, I BELIEVE

56:28 - WAS A PART OF IT. WE HAD A

56:31 - NUMBER OF

56:33 - OTHER FOLKS THAT WERE WERE

56:34 - APART. THE SUPPLIERS, THE WE

56:36 - HAD REPRESENTATION OF FARMERS.

56:38 - WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THESE

56:39 - PERMITS. THESE BIO SOLID

56:40 - PERMITS FOR PROBABLY CLOSE TO

56:45 - 30 YEARS AND THEY ARE

56:47 - AUTHORIZED IN REGULATION AND

56:50 - STATUTE AND AND WE DO

56:51 - PERIODICALLY UPDATE THEM IN

56:51 - RELATION TO THINGS THAT CHANGE

56:54 - AT THE

56:56 - FEDERAL LEVEL AND REGULATIONS.

56:57 - THE REGULATORY CHANGES THAT

57:00 - GO THROUGH THE RULEMAKING

57:03 - PROCESS. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING

57:04 - ON THESE PERMITS UPDATING THESE

57:07 - PERMITS SINCE 2016. THEY HAVE

57:08 - BEEN IN MINISTRY. WX TENDED,

57:11 - BUT WE

57:12 - WENT THROUGH A PROCESS OVER THE

57:15 - LAST SEVERAL MONTHS TO DRAFT

57:19 - NEW PERMITS TO ADDRESS P FOSSE.

57:22 - SPECIFICALLY. WE'VE ALSO LOOKED

57:23 - AT PHOSPHORUS, WHICH WE KNOW

57:24 - THAT WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH AND

57:27 - PENNSYLVANIA GETTING INTO OUR

57:29 - WATERWAYS, A NUMBER OF OTHER

57:30 - TWEAKS TO IT. WE LOOKED AT THE

57:31 - STATES AROUND US. WE LOOKED AT

57:34 - MICHIGAN, BUT WHAT WE REALLY

57:36 - ARE TRYING TO AVOID IS

57:37 - PENNSYLVANIA BECOMING A DUMPING

57:40 - GROUND FOR FOR BIO SOLIDS THAT

57:41 - HAVE HEAVY METALS THAT HAVE YOU

57:44 - PASS AND THEM? SO I THINK THAT

57:45 - WE WE THINK THAT WE'VE COME UP

57:47 - WITH A REALLY GOOD SOLUTION

57:49 - WORKING WITH THOSE THOSE

57:53 - STAKEHOLDERS, ONE THAT IS

57:53 - IMPLEMENTABLE. IT'S BASED ON

57:54 - WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN MICHIGAN.

57:57 - IT'S BASED ON WE LOOKED AT WHAT

57:58 - WAS DONE IN NORTH CAROLINA AND

58:00 - WE THINK THAT THE DRAFT PERMIT

58:02 - SHOULD DRAFT PERMIT SHOULD GO

58:03 - OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE

58:06 - NEXT FEW WEEKS. WE'LL TAKE

58:07 - PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE BEFORE

58:10 - THEY BECOME FINAL. BUT THEY ARE

58:12 - THEY ARE ROOTED IN AND

58:13 - REGULATORY AND STATUTORY MEANS

58:14 - THEY ARE. THEY ARE. THANK YOU

58:17 - VERY MUCH.

58:19 - THANK YOU. GENERAL

58:22 - REPRESENTATIVE ED.

58:23 - >>THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN,

58:23 - THANK YOU TO BOTH SECRETARIES

58:24 - AND YOUR STAFF FOR BEING HERE

58:27 - TODAY. MY FIRST QUESTION IS FOR

58:31 - SECRETARY DONE. I HAD THE

58:32 - PLEASURE. AN HONOR REPRESENTING

58:34 - POINT STATE PARK DOWNTOWN

58:36 - PITTSBURGH. AND I KNOW THAT

58:36 - RECENTLY THE ACCESS TO IT HAS

58:37 - BEEN A LITTLE BIT LIMITED

58:39 - BECAUSE OF THE RENOVATIONS IN

58:41 - PREPARATION FOR THE NFL DRAFT.

58:43 - BUT I WANT TO JUST KIND OF GET

58:46 - YOUR SENSE OF SORT OF POST

58:47 - DRAFT. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, BEFORE

58:49 - THE RENOVATIONS, THE PARK HAS

58:50 - BEEN UTILIZED FOR EVENT SPACE

58:52 - FOR FESTIVALS, THINGS LIKE

58:54 - THAT. HOW DO YOU ENVISION ONCE

58:55 - THE RENOVATIONS ARE COMPLETE

58:58 - DRAFT PASSES, HOW WE WILL BE

59:00 - ABLE TO UTILIZE POINT STATE

59:02 - PARK ONCE AGAIN. IT'S A

59:02 - QUESTION. THANKS FOR YOUR

59:03 - SUPPORT POINT STATE PARK AND

59:05 - HOPE TO SEE IF THE NFL DRAFT

59:06 - WILL BE THERE TO YOU IN A WAY

59:09 - TO HER

59:09 - FRIENDS RIGHT?

59:11 - >>THE ON AGAIN OFF AGAIN

59:12 - REPAIRS THAT POINT OR A LITTLE

59:13 - COMPLEX. WE HAD TO GET READY

59:14 - FOR THE NFL DRAFT. WE DID A

59:16 - NUMBER OF KEY IMPROVEMENTS.

59:18 - >>AND SEVERAL PROJECTS LAST

59:20 - YEAR, THE READY FOR THIS YEAR.

59:22 - AND THEN ONCE AGAIN NEXT YEAR,

59:25 - WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE CAPITAL

59:25 - IMPROVEMENT TOSSED ON THE U.S..

59:26 - MAKE SURE I GET THE RIGHT TIME

59:28 - WAS ON ALL THOSE COVID

59:31 - GENERALLY SPEAKING. WHEN THE

59:32 - PURPOSES OF POINT IS BIG EVENT.

59:35 - SO THAT'S OUR GOAL.

59:38 - IF THE AGAIN, THANKS FOR THE

59:40 - QUESTIONS. SO WE DID ABOUT 3 OR

59:41 - 4 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF

59:42 - WORK. GET READY FOR THE NFL

59:43 - DRAFT AND ALSO FOR TO 50 P A

59:45 - >>AND HAVE SOME GREAT

59:48 - FESTIVITIES DOWN THERE THIS

59:51 - YEAR. ONCE THAT'S OVER, WE HAVE

59:51 - A CAPITAL PROJECT IS DESIGNED

59:54 - RIGHT NOW. IT'S GOING TO BE

59:56 - ABOUT A 30 MILLION DOLLAR

59:57 - CAPITAL PROJECT WILL BE LINKED

59:58 - WITH THE DOWNTOWN

59:59 - 965 REVITALIZATION. SO WE HAVE A

01:00 - 02.966 LOT OF REALLY COOL STUFF BEING

01:00 - 06.035 DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW AND DESIGN

01:00 - 07.070 RIGHT NOW FOR POINT STATE PARK

01:00 - 07.737 TO RE. IMAGINE THAT AS AS A

01:00 - 14.510 EVEN A BETTER PUBLIC SPACE.

01:00 - 15.144 >>SO THESE ENVISION LARGER

01:00 - 16.145 SKILL FESTIVITIES AND EVENTS

01:00 - 16.813 HAPPENING IN 2026. 2027 AND

01:00 - 17.981 HE'S ONE OF THE YEAR

01:00 - 21.751 RENOVATIONS. WHEN YOU SEE THAT

01:00 - 23.486 BEING ACCESSIBLE, I THINK 26

01:00 - 25.188 27. WE WILL HAVE A FENCE THERE.

01:00 - 27.390 >>BECAUSE IT ISN'T DESIGNED

01:00 - 28.992 STATES RIGHT NOW. GOT TO.

01:00 - 30.293 AND MY SECOND QUESTION FOR

01:00 - 33.029 SECRETARY SHIRLEY. I WANT TO

01:00 - 33.863 KEEP ON THE SUBJECT OF DATA

01:00 - 36.766 CENTERS. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED A

01:00 - 37.767 LITTLE BIT EARLY ABOUT

01:00 - 38.501 DEVELOPERS WILL BE SOME TYPE OF

01:00 - 39.202 CRITERIA THAT THEIR BENCHMARKS

01:00 - 40.870 THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE

01:00 - 42.739 TO ME, TOO, MAKE THEIR

01:00 - 43.840 PERMITTING PROCESS EFFICIENT.

01:00 - 46.009 ONE OF THE THINGS WAS YOU

01:00 - 47.443 MENTIONED WAS AROUND COMMUNITY

01:00 - 48.144 ENGAGEMENT. IT'S GOING TO SEE

01:00 - 49.979 IF YOU CAN SORT OF GET INTO THE

01:00 - 51.247 WEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT

01:00 - 51.948 WHAT THAT ACTUALLY WOULD LOOK

01:00 - 54.550 LIKE FROM THE DEPARTMENT

01:00 - 55.251 STANDPOINT TO REALLY HOLD THEM

01:00 - 56.886 ACCOUNTABLE TO DO TRUE

01:00 - 58.888 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WORK.

01:00 - 59.856 I AND I ENVISION DEVELOPERS

01:00 - 04.060 SENDING POSTCARDS TO NEIGHBORS

01:01 - 05.962 AND SAYING WE ENGAGED THE

01:01 - 07.530 COMMUNITY OR HOSTING A

01:01 - 08.197 COMMUNITY MEETING. I GO INTO

01:01 - 10.533 TUESDAY AT 1 O'CLOCK WHEN

01:01 - 11.200 EVERYBODY'S AT WORK AND THEN

01:01 - 13.803 SAYING WE CHECKED OFF THAT BOX

01:01 - 14.671 TO DO

01:01 - 16.673 THAT. SO WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT

01:01 - 17.674 TO DO TO ENSURE THAT COMMUNITY

01:01 - 18.541 GAUGE MONIES WHERE WE ENVISION

01:01 - 19.609 AS REAL ENGAGEMENT FOR

01:01 - 20.810 COMMUNITY MEMBERS? YEAH.

01:01 - 23.379 THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

01:01 - 25.481 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

01:01 - 27.283 >>FRUSTRATES ME A LITTLE BIT AS

01:01 - 30.053 THE SECRETARY OF DP IS WHEN OUR

01:01 - 30.753 PROCESS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT

01:01 - 33.823 RESIDENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY

01:01 - 37.694 TO ENGAGE ON A PROJECT BECAUSE

01:01 - 38.327 BY THE TIME IT GETS TO US,

01:01 - 39.629 THERE'S WE'RE VERY LIMITED IN

01:01 - 40.329 THE THINGS THAT WE CAN REQUIRE

01:01 - 42.965 UNCHANGED. BUT WHAT WE CAN DO

01:01 - 44.834 IS PROVIDE THAT.

01:01 - 47.003 THAT OUTREACH OR THAT

01:01 - 48.137 CONNECTION TO THE RESIN FROM

01:01 - 48.905 THE RESIDENTS TO THE TO THE

01:01 - 51.808 DEVELOPERS, WHICH IS WHAT WE

01:01 - 52.875 DO. AND AND A LOT OF CASES.

01:01 - 55.378 BUT, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY FOR ME

01:01 - 57.613 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS

01:01 - 59.348 THESE DEVELOPERS GOING TO THE

01:01 - 00.616 COMMUNITY DESCRIBING THEIR

01:02 - 02.385 PROJECT AND THEN ASKING THE

01:02 - 03.653 COMMUNITY WHAT IT IS THAT THEY

01:02 - 07.757 NEED. SO THIS WOULD LIKELY BE

01:02 - 09.692 HELD AT A LOCAL LEVEL.

01:02 - 10.793 >>WHERE THE MAYBE THE TOWNSHIP

01:02 - 13.229 SUPERVISORS OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN

01:02 - 14.097 IT COULD BE DONE AT THE COUNTY

01:02 - 17.533 LEVEL WOULD FACILITATE A

01:02 - 20.636 CONVERSATION. AND IF IF THE

01:02 - 22.238 COMMUNITY HAS

01:02 - 22.872 CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

01:02 - 26.309 NOISE, THEN THE DEVELOPER WOULD

01:02 - 27.276 MAKE A COMMITMENT TO THAT

01:02 - 27.977 COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD

01:02 - 31.481 MITIGATE NOISE IF THEY HAVE A

01:02 - 32.215 CONCERN ABOUT THAT, THEY ANSWER

01:02 - 36.185 THAT I OR THE EXAMPLE THAT I

01:02 - 38.020 LIKE TO GIVE IS IF THEY'RE

01:02 - 39.222 CUTTING DOWN A BUNCH OF TREES

01:02 - 41.124 TO BUILD THAT, THAT DATA CENTER

01:02 - 42.191 WILL, THEN THEY WOULD MAKE A

01:02 - 42.825 COMMITMENT TO RESTORE KNOW

01:02 - 45.027 THOSE TREES TO THE ONE WITHIN

01:02 - 45.928 THAT COMMUNITY. BUT IT REALLY

01:02 - 46.629 HAS TO BE UP TO THE COMMUNITY.

01:02 - 49.532 THE COMMUNITY HAS TO DECIDE

01:02 - 51.167 WHAT THEY WANT. WE WANT TO MAKE

01:02 - 51.934 IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR

01:02 - 55.338 THOSE COMMUNITIES TO KIND OF

01:02 - 56.038 UNDERSTAND WHAT AND DIFFERENT

01:02 - 59.142 THINGS THAT THEY CAN ASK FOR A

01:02 - 00.943 LOT OF

01:03 - 01.611 THESE COMMUNITIES WHERE THE

01:03 - 04.480 DISSENTERS ARE BEING CITED.

01:03 - 05.148 DON'T EVEN

01:03 - 08.217 HAVE ZONING. SO, YOU KNOW,

01:03 - 09.819 THEY'RE VERY

01:03 - 11.921 I TRY TO SAY THIS IN A GENTLE

01:03 - 12.922 WAY. THEY'RE NOT SUPER SAVVY

01:03 - 15.825 SOMETIMES. SO WE WANT TO MAYBE

01:03 - 16.726 SHARE SOME BEST PRACTICES.

01:03 - 17.927 LET THEM KNOW POSSIBILITIES,

01:03 - 19.862 THINGS THAT THEY CAN ASK FOR

01:03 - 20.863 BECAUSE I DO THINK A LOT OF

01:03 - 21.631 TIMES THESE DEVELOPERS ARE

01:03 - 22.298 WILLING TO PAY FOR THEM AND

01:03 - 24.000 ADDRESS THOSE THINGS. THEY JUST

01:03 - 26.169 NEED TO HAVE THAT CONNECTION

01:03 - 29.071 TO KNOW WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE.

01:03 - 29.972 SO WE WANT TO SEE WE WOULD WANT

01:03 - 32.175 TO SEE, YOU KNOW, REAL EFFORT

01:03 - 34.177 NOT JUST SENT YOU A POSTCARD.

01:03 - 37.146 YOU KNOW, WE HELD A VIRTUAL

01:03 - 40.183 MEETING AT 01:00PM AND 2 PEOPLE

01:03 - 41.250 SHOWED UP, YOU KNOW, REAL

01:03 - 42.385 EFFORT BY THESE BY THESE

01:03 - 42.952 COMPANIES TO HAVE THAT

01:03 - 44.654 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. ALSO,

01:03 - 48.057 THANK YOU. THANKS, JENNIFER.

01:03 - 50.693 REPRESENT ALSO, THANK YOU, MR.

01:03 - 53.763 CHAIRMAN.

01:03 - 54.864 >>SECRETARIES UP.

01:03 - 58.935 BOTH FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND

01:03 - 00.036 YOUR TEAMS. FIRST, A COMMENT

01:04 - 01.137 FOR SECRETARY DONE. I WANT TO

01:04 - 05.808 THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF SEVERAL

01:04 - 07.577 FOLKS BACK IN THE 100 39TH WANT

01:04 - 11.581 TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON

01:04 - 14.617 HELPING US WITH A A STATE PARK

01:04 - 15.384 BACK THERE IN A SITUATION

01:04 - 16.052 THERE. I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR

01:04 - 21.691 YOUR HELP AND YOUR TEAMS HELP.

01:04 - 23.759 ALSO WITH YOUR HELP WITH THE

01:04 - 25.628 THE UPPER DELAWARE AND IN

01:04 - 26.462 ORGANIZATION ALONG THERE.

01:04 - 28.731 SO VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

01:04 - 31.801 MY QUESTION IS FOR SECRETARY

01:04 - 34.904 SHIRLEY SECRETARY, SHIRLEY LAST

01:04 - 35.905 YEAR WHEN WHEN I

01:04 - 36.772 WAS HERE, I ASKED YOU WHETHER

01:04 - 40.743 YOU COULD EXPLORE SOME COMMON

01:04 - 41.744 SENSE APPROACH TO SAFE DRINKING

01:04 - 45.548 WATER STANDARDS FOR SMALL RURAL

01:04 - 46.215 DAYCARE CENTERS THAT RELY ON

01:04 - 49.318 HIGH-QUALITY WELL WATER RATHER

01:04 - 50.586 THAN PUBLIC SYSTEMS.

01:04 - 55.892 THE SENATORS CAN DIGS OR ABSORB

01:04 - 57.793 THE HIGH ONGOING TESTING COSTS,

01:04 - 00.463 MAINTENANCE AND REGULATORY

01:05 - 01.163 COSTS THAT DP IMPOSES. I THINK

01:05 - 07.737 WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST YEAR.

01:05 - 08.271 WHAT SOLUTIONS

01:05 - 11.807 ARE SUCCESSES? CAN YOU TALK

01:05 - 13.743 TO US ABOUT

01:05 - 16.979 HERE TODAY?

01:05 - 17.813 >>AND MAYBE A NET THAT TO.

01:05 - 21.717 >>THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THAT

01:05 - 22.418 WOULD HELP UNBURDEN THE RURAL

01:05 - 24.253 PROVIDERS AND THE FAMILIES WHO

01:05 - 27.356 DEPEND ON THEM.

01:05 - 30.026 >>YEAH, THANKS FOR

01:05 - 30.726 THAT. SO PETER PORT SINCE LAST

01:05 - 33.629 YEAR, OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT

01:05 - 36.766 LIAISON WHO IS NOW AN

01:05 - 37.767 EXTERNAL

01:05 - 39.302 AFFAIRS MANAGER, ROB SACHS, HAS

01:05 - 40.036 BEEN DOING A TON OF OUTREACH TO

01:05 - 42.505 LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES. WE'VE

01:05 - 45.741 DEVELOPED A

01:05 - 47.710 FACT SHEET AND TO DISTRIBUTE TO

01:05 - 48.411 THOSE MUNICIPALITIES THAT WHEN

01:05 - 50.012 BUSINESSES COME IN FOR A

01:05 - 50.880 LICENSE, THEY AT LEAST

01:05 - 54.417 UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR

01:05 - 54.984 REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR.

01:05 - 56.352 >>PROVIDING SAFE DRINKING

01:05 - 58.521 WATER, WHETHER THEY FALL INTO,

01:05 - 59.355 YOU KNOW, A PRIVATE SITUATION

01:05 - 01.057 OR IF THEY DO FALL INTO ONE OF

01:06 - 03.059 THOSE COMMUNITY CATEGORIES,

01:06 - 05.061 WHICH A LOT OF BUSINESSES TOO.

01:06 - 05.895 SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF

01:06 - 08.030 EDUCATION AROUND THIS TO MAKE

01:06 - 08.631 SURE THAT WHEN THERE ARE

01:06 - 12.134 EXPLORING A PROPERTY THAT THEY

01:06 - 15.037 THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY

01:06 - 15.638 FALL WITHIN THOSE THOSE

01:06 - 16.505 REQUIREMENTS ARE THOSE

01:06 - 17.206 STANDARDS. AND THAT DEFINITION

01:06 - 21.677 OF, YOU KNOW, BEING A PRIVATE

01:06 - 22.645 OR A COMMUNITY SYSTEM.

01:06 - 24.580 >>SO IF THEY UNDERSTAND THAT

01:06 - 25.648 THEY FALL IN THOSE

01:06 - 28.451 REQUIREMENTS, IS THERE ANY

01:06 - 30.586 ASSISTANCE THAT DEEP THE P

01:06 - 30.886 OFFERS

01:06 - 31.554 >>FOR CHILD CARE FACILITIES?

01:06 - 34.724 I KNOW THAT WE OFFER ASSISTANCE

01:06 - 37.626 AND TESTING FOR LEAD.

01:06 - 38.227 BUT AS FAR AS THE OTHER

01:06 - 41.230 REQUIREMENTS GO FOR TESTING AND

01:06 - 44.100 DO NOT, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT

01:06 - 46.002 THERE'S REALLY ANY PROGRAM WE

01:06 - 46.635 WOULD WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO

01:06 - 47.336 EXPLORE THAT. IT'S NOT JUST A

01:06 - 50.639 CAREER CENTERS, BUT I DO THINK

01:06 - 52.475 SMALL BUSINESSES, WE HEAR THIS

01:06 - 53.342 A LOT WHERE THEY DO HAVE

01:06 - 54.043 DIFFICULTY. WE WOULD WE WOULD

01:06 - 54.910 WELCOME A FURTHER CONVERSATION,

01:06 - 57.680 BUT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO

01:06 - 58.280 RESOURCES FOR EVERYBODY.

01:06 - 00.549 ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT ANOTHER

01:07 - 00.983 QUESTION HERE.

01:07 - 06.055 >>CAN YOU CAN YOU PROVIDE AN

01:07 - 07.990 UPDATE ON THE ACT? 5.37 SEWAGE

01:07 - 09.959 FACILITIES PROGRAM,

01:07 - 12.928 PARTICULARLY YOUR OVERSIGHT ON

01:07 - 16.065 THE ONLINE ALTERNATIVE SEWER

01:07 - 19.135 SYSTEM TECHNOLOGIES. OATS.

01:07 - 19.902 ADDITIONALLY, HOW DOES THE

01:07 - 21.704 DEPARTMENT VIEW OATS UNDER THE

01:07 - 26.842 POLICY CHANGES THAT TOOK EFFECT

01:07 - 30.079 ON JULY? 29TH 2023.

01:07 - 30.746 >>SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON

01:07 - 33.983 UPDATING OUR SEWER REGULATIONS

01:07 - 37.153 FOR THE LAST.

01:07 - 38.087 YEAR OR SO. THESE REGULATIONS

01:07 - 38.754 HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED IN 25

01:07 - 40.890 YEARS, WHICH IS A REALLY LONG

01:07 - 42.892 TIME TO GO WITHOUT UPDATING

01:07 - 44.693 REGULATIONS. OVER THAT TIME.

01:07 - 45.361 WE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE

01:07 - 48.230 SEEN SOME INCREMENTAL CHANGES,

01:07 - 49.598 BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT.

01:07 - 50.299 SO THIS RULEMAKING PACKAGE IS

01:07 - 55.571 GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF CHANGES.

01:07 - 56.405 IT, INCLUDING THOSE

01:07 - 57.339 ALTERNATIVE SYSTEMS. SO I HAD

01:07 - 00.743 THIS ACTUALLY HAVE THIS JUST

01:08 - 04.280 EXPLAINED TO ME AGAIN ON FRIDAY

01:08 - 06.482 BECAUSE SEWAGE. I HAVE TO TELL

01:08 - 07.083 YOU, IS ONE OF MY LEAST

01:08 - 10.419 FAVORITE SUBJECTS, NOT BECAUSE

01:08 - 11.020 OF THE CONTENT, BUT JUST

01:08 - 11.987 BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WE HAVE

01:08 - 12.588 TO DO IT IN PENNSYLVANIA

01:08 - 13.189 BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY

01:08 - 17.860 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES AND

01:08 - 18.694 EVERYTHING ELSE. SO ON THE

01:08 - 20.663 PLANNING SIDE, YOU FIRST HAVE

01:08 - 24.467 TO DETERMINE IF US IF THE SOIL

01:08 - 25.401 IS SUITABLE. AND SO THERE IS

01:08 - 28.437 IN THE WAY THAT THE LANGUAGE IS

01:08 - 30.139 WRITTEN IN THE ACT. THERE IS

01:08 - 32.341 A SOIL SUITABILITY ANALYSIS,

01:08 - 35.010 NOT EVERY SOIL IN PENNSYLVANIA

01:08 - 40.049 IS SUITABLE FOR HAVING SEWAGE

01:08 - 42.084 ON IT. IT'S JUST NOT SO THAT'S

01:08 - 44.954 WHEN WE WOULD DETERMINE WHETHER

01:08 - 45.688 THEY COULD HAVE. REGULAR ONLINE

01:08 - 49.391 SYSTEM OR IF THEY COULD USE

01:08 - 50.459 AN ALTERNATIVE SYSTEM.

01:08 - 51.327 SOMETIMES THERE ARE SITES THAT

01:08 - 55.831 JUST DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF

01:08 - 58.701 SUITABILITY FOR ANY TYPE OF

01:08 - 59.435 SYSTEM. SO THAT'S WHEN IT WOULD

01:08 - 02.872 BE CONSIDERED. YOU COULD GET

01:09 - 03.973 A WAIVER FOR IT TO BE USED FOR

01:09 - 06.609 SOMETHING ELSE. THAT'S LIKE

01:09 - 07.309 NOT HABITABLE. SO A CELL PHONE

01:09 - 10.112 TOWER OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT

01:09 - 15.484 LINE. SO IT'S AN INCREDIBLY

01:09 - 16.152 COMPLICATED SYSTEM OF SEWAGE

01:09 - 19.522 PLANNING. BUT WE HAVE TRIED TO

01:09 - 20.523 BE FLEXIBLE AND I THINK WE'LL

01:09 - 22.458 SEE SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY

01:09 - 23.159 WHENEVER THOSE REGULATIONS ARE

01:09 - 24.193 FINALIZED, THEY SHOULD BE GOING

01:09 - 27.129 OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT LATER

01:09 - 30.032 THIS SUMMER. AND WE'RE REALLY

01:09 - 31.300 LOOKING FORWARD TO A ROBUST

01:09 - 32.034 PROCESS TO HEAR INPUT FROM CEOS

01:09 - 33.669 AND OTHER FOLKS WHO HAVE TO

01:09 - 37.273 IMPLEMENT THEM. THANK YOU, MR.

01:09 - 39.074 CHAIRMAN. THANK THE GENTLEMAN

01:09 - 41.143 REP REPRESENTATIVE KING CAKE.

01:09 - 43.179 THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIRMAN.

01:09 - 45.181 I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A BREAK

01:09 - 45.848 FROM DATA CENTERS. BUT IN A

01:09 - 48.484 CERTAIN WAY, IT'S YES ARE THE

01:09 - 50.986 SAME QUESTIONS.

01:09 - 54.823 >>THE GOVERNOR HAVE ISSUED A

01:09 - 55.524 LETTER TO SECRETARY NOEM LAST

01:09 - 59.828 MONTH TO SIGN ON TO IT AND AB.

01:09 - 02.831 >>BUT IT HIGHLIGHTED THE FACT

01:10 - 04.066 THAT THAT THE FACILITIES THAT

01:10 - 04.700 THEY'VE PURCHASED AND THE

01:10 - 06.869 PROPOSED USE THAT THEY HAVE

01:10 - 08.070 FOR THEM

01:10 - 09.338 >>WOULD JEOPARDIZE THE HEALTH

01:10 - 11.407 AND SAFETY OF PENNSYLVANIANS

01:10 - 16.278 SPECIFIC 2 D E P THE TREATMENT

01:10 - 19.281 FACILITY. TIME PROPOSES TO USE

01:10 - 19.915 800,000 GALLONS PER DAY OF

01:10 - 20.616 WATER IN A COMMUNITY WHERE THE

01:10 - 23.118 WATER SUPPLY IS ALREADY UNDER

01:10 - 25.321 EXTREME STRESS. AND I'M

01:10 - 29.592 WONDERING IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO.

01:10 - 30.559 YOU KNOW, MORE BROADLY, THE

01:10 - 31.093 CONCERNS IN IN THOSE

01:10 - 37.066 COMMUNITIES. AND AND WHAT AM.

01:10 - 38.100 REDRESS IS AVAILABLE FOR THOSE

01:10 - 39.969 COMMUNITIES. IF DHS DECIDES

01:10 - 42.238 FEDERAL DHS DECIDES TO MOVE

01:10 - 43.505 FORWARD WITH THOSE PLANS AND

01:10 - 44.206 THEN WHAT ABILITY DOES DP HAVE

01:10 - 48.711 TO ENSURE THAT THOSE RESIDENTS

01:10 - 51.046 ARE NOT HARMED? IF DHS IGNORES

01:10 - 51.747 YOUR MORNINGS? THANKS. I THINK

01:10 - 54.083 WE'RE WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPLORING

01:10 - 54.750 ALL OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S THE

01:10 - 56.652 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I THINK

01:10 - 58.854 IT'S A COMPLICATING COMPLICATED

01:10 - 59.722 FACTOR.

01:10 - 00.589 >>IF IT WEREN'T THE FEDERAL

01:11 - 03.692 GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, I THINK

01:11 - 04.560 IT WOULD BE PRETTY COMPLICATED.

01:11 - 06.395 THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS

01:11 - 07.062 THERE JUST ISN'T THE

01:11 - 07.763 INFRASTRUCTURE THERE, NOT JUST

01:11 - 11.500 THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THERE'S

01:11 - 13.269 NO RESOURCES THERE. SO THERE

01:11 - 13.902 ISN'T ENOUGH WATER AND THE

01:11 - 17.239 WATER SUPPLY. WE RECENTLY I

01:11 - 21.043 THINK ON FRIDAY JUST

01:11 - 21.844 ISSUED INCREASED

01:11 - 23.545 INTAKE ABILITY FOR I THINK IT

01:11 - 25.414 WAS THE TREATMENT FACILITY TO

01:11 - 28.450 BE ABLE TO BRING ON ADDITIONAL

01:11 - 29.151 WATER SUPPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE

01:11 - 31.587 LITERALLY TRACKING IT IN JUST

01:11 - 34.690 TO HAVE ENOUGH FOR THE EXISTING

01:11 - 36.358 FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE. SO TO

01:11 - 36.959 TRIPLE THEIR POPULATION

01:11 - 37.626 OVERNIGHT, THERE JUST SIMPLY

01:11 - 40.129 WOULD NOT BE THE QUANTITY OF

01:11 - 43.832 WATER THAT'S NECESSARY.

01:11 - 44.466 THEN YOU ADD ON THE SEWAGE

01:11 - 45.601 FACILITIES. I THINK ONE OF THE

01:11 - 50.372 I THINK WE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE

01:11 - 52.274 LETTER THAT ONE OF THE ONE OF

01:11 - 56.245 THE FACILITIES HAS A HAS A 2

01:11 - 57.880 INCH MAINE FOR SEWAGE. I MEAN,

01:11 - 58.580 IF YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR HOUSE

01:11 - 00.683 LIKE MY OWN, MY OWN HOUSE HAS A

01:12 - 05.087 HAS US, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY OF

01:12 - 06.088 4 OR 5 INCH PIPE GOING OUT OF

01:12 - 07.156 IT. SO I MEAN, IT JUST GOES TO

01:12 - 08.223 SHOW YOU THAT THIS FACILITY

01:12 - 11.593 WAS NOT DESIGNED TO HAVE THAT

01:12 - 13.462 MANY PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, DRINKING

01:12 - 16.532 WATER, FLUSHING TOILETS,

01:12 - 18.534 SHOWERING

01:12 - 21.603 THERE WAS THERE USED TO BE A

01:12 - 22.004 FACILITY IN

01:12 - 26.075 ICE FACILITY IN BERKS COUNTY.

01:12 - 29.111 BUT IT WAS A NURSING HOME THAT

01:12 - 31.180 HAD BEEN CONVERTED. SO IT WAS

01:12 - 33.115 ALREADY PERMITTED TO HOLD

01:12 - 35.250 PEOPLE. IT WAS A CERTAIN NUMBER

01:12 - 36.051 OF BEDS. THEY WEREN'T EXPANDING

01:12 - 36.752 IT. THEY WEREN'T EXPANDING THE

01:12 - 41.623 USE, WHICH IS HOW THEY WERE

01:12 - 43.058 ABLE TO RETROFIT. BUT THESE

01:12 - 43.692 FACILITIES ARE WAREHOUSES.

01:12 - 44.360 THEY WERE NOT MEANT TO HOLD

01:12 - 48.497 PEOPLE. THEY WERE MEANT TO HOLD

01:12 - 51.367 GOODS AND MAYBE HOST A COUPLE

01:12 - 54.370 100 FOLKS WHO ARE, YOU KNOW,

01:12 - 55.270 RUNNING FOR CLIFFS AND, YOU

01:12 - 56.872 KNOW, SEE OVERSEEING THE

01:12 - 59.675 OPERATIONS OF THAT. IT'S A LOT

01:12 - 02.811 DIFFERENT THAN HAVING 7500

01:13 - 04.713 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HOUSE THERE.

01:13 - 06.281 SO WE HAVE WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT

01:13 - 09.418 CONCERNS ON THE DRINKING WATER

01:13 - 11.387 SIDE. ALSO ON THE SEWAGE SIDE

01:13 - 13.489 AND THAT THE RECEDING WATER OF

01:13 - 15.391 THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY THAT

01:13 - 17.326 MANAGES THE SEWAGE. WE DO NOT

01:13 - 18.060 BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE

01:13 - 18.861 AT THE RECEDING WATERS WOULD BE

01:13 - 21.363 ABLE TO HANDLE THE AFFLUENT

01:13 - 23.999 AND IT WOULD RESULT IN

01:13 - 24.700 SIGNIFICANT SEWAGE, OVERFLOWS

01:13 - 28.637 AND SEVERE DEGRADATION OF THOSE

01:13 - 31.540 WATER RESOURCES. THANK YOU.

01:13 - 32.241 I SERVE ON THE BOARD OF US AND

01:13 - 33.575 IN ALLEGHENY COUNTY AND WE HAVE

01:13 - 35.611 A CURRENT CONSENT DECREE WITH

01:13 - 37.045 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DEALING

01:13 - 40.015 WITH THE OVERFLOW AND IT COMES

01:13 - 41.016 TO SIGNIFICANT WET WEATHER

01:13 - 44.086 EVENTS. SO

01:13 - 45.020 >>I THINK THAT IN ADDITION TO

01:13 - 47.523 STAY AT THE CONCERN ABOUT RAW

01:13 - 48.223 SEWAGE BEING OVERFLOWING, THE

01:13 - 48.724 ALSO EXPOSES THESE

01:13 - 51.727 MUNICIPALITIES TO SIGNIFICANT.

01:13 - 53.629 I HAVE MONETARY LIABILITY FROM

01:13 - 54.263 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO

01:13 - 57.232 THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR.

01:13 - 59.134 CHAIRMAN

01:13 - 00.169 THANK THE GENTLE LADY

01:14 - 00.803 REPRESENTED THE THANK YOU.

01:14 - 02.237 CHAIRMAN HARRIS. AND THANK YOU

01:14 - 03.772 ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

01:14 - 05.808 >>THE QUESTION IS FOR SECRETARY

01:14 - 06.475 DONE SECRETARY PENNSYLVANIA

01:14 - 08.844 REMAINS ONE OF THE LARGEST

01:14 - 11.613 NATURAL GAS PRODUCERS IN THE

01:14 - 12.648 COUNTRY. YET WE MAINTAIN A

01:14 - 13.916 MORATORIUM ON NEW LEASING ON

01:14 - 16.718 OUR STATE PARKS AND STATE

01:14 - 18.587 FOREST ORIGINATING UNDER

01:14 - 19.321 GOVERNOR DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES.

01:14 - 22.424 AN EXISTING AREAS BUT NO NEW

01:14 - 22.891 EXPANSION OF NEW

01:14 - 23.525 STATE LEASING. MEANWHILE,

01:14 - 26.161 NEIGHBORING STATES ARE ACTIVELY

01:14 - 26.929 PROMOTING DEVELOPMENT,

01:14 - 27.496 FOR INSTANCE, OHIO WAS

01:14 - 28.831 AGGRESSIVELY OPENED UP

01:14 - 30.199 STATE-OWNED LANDS FOR

01:14 - 32.367 DEVELOPMENT STREAMLINED

01:14 - 33.535 PERMITTING THROUGH JOBS.

01:14 - 35.337 OHIO INCENTIVES, WEST VIRGINIA

01:14 - 36.872 CAN CONTINUES TO PROMOTE MORE

01:14 - 37.539 SHOWS. AND UTICA DEVELOPMENT

01:14 - 39.475 WITH REGULATORY FRAMEWORK,

01:14 - 41.910 MARKETING AND BUSINESS FRIENDLY

01:14 - 43.378 STATES CONSISTENTLY MESSAGE

01:14 - 45.481 ENERGY AVAILABILITY AND GRID

01:14 - 47.349 RELIABILITY AS ECONOMY GROWS.

01:14 - 48.217 SECRETARY, CAN YOU GIVE US AN

01:14 - 48.884 UPDATE? WHAT ARE THE CURRENT

01:14 - 52.821 NUMBER OF DRILLING OPERATIONS

01:14 - 53.889 AND OPERATORS ON THE STATE

01:14 - 56.158 LEAST GROUND YOU EVER SEIZURE?

01:14 - 56.725 WE CURRENTLY HAVE 684

01:14 - 57.392 UNCONVENTIONAL. WELL, SO OF

01:14 - 59.294 COURSE, THEY WOULD DEVELOP

01:14 - 01.430 SINCE.

01:15 - 06.535 >>28 2008 AND 499, CONVENTIONAL

01:15 - 07.936 WELLS. THE

01:15 - 10.138 IT COVER ABOUT 230

01:15 - 10.806 UNCONVENTIONAL WELLS COVER.

01:15 - 12.875 ALL RIGHT. THROUGH 6,000 ACRES

01:15 - 14.743 OF THE STATE FOREST LAND.

01:15 - 15.477 IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATE FOREST

01:15 - 17.713 LAND TO PENNSYLVANIA, REALLY

01:15 - 20.282 THE BIGGEST CONCENTRATIONS

01:15 - 21.783 NORTH CENTRAL AND THE OURSELVES

01:15 - 22.384 AND UTICA RANGE INCLUDES

01:15 - 24.987 NORTH-CENTRAL, BUT WRAPS DOWN

01:15 - 26.388 AROUND.

01:15 - 28.123 THE WESTERN BORDER OF

01:15 - 30.492 PENNSYLVANIA AND DOWN IN THE

01:15 - 31.460 SOUTHWEST. A LOT OF

01:15 - 32.094 PENNSYLVANIA IS ESPECIALLY

01:15 - 34.363 RECENT OIL AND GAS DEVELOPMENT

01:15 - 34.997 HAS ACTUALLY NOT BEEN ON.

01:15 - 37.332 IT'S A FOREST LAND WITH OR

01:15 - 38.867 WITHOUT THE MORATORIUM. IT'S

01:15 - 39.501 A LOT OF THE ACTION IS IN

01:15 - 40.202 PLACES WHERE WE DON'T HAVE AS

01:15 - 42.604 MUCH A STATE FOREST LAND.

01:15 - 44.206 SO.

01:15 - 44.873 OUR EFFECT ON THIS ISN'T AS

01:15 - 49.278 GREAT AS MAYBE IS THOUGHT BY

01:15 - 50.445 SOME PEOPLE. WE HAVE. WE'VE HAD

01:15 - 52.915 THE MORATORIUM IN PLACE SINCE

01:15 - 53.582 LIKE YOU MENTIONED, AND THEN

01:15 - 55.484 RAN DOWN HERE AND IT CONTINUED

01:15 - 56.618 TO ORGANIST. RACING CONTINUES.

01:15 - 58.520 WOLF. ADMINISTRATION DALLAS

01:15 - 03.625 APPEAR IN THE STATION AND WE

01:16 - 05.627 HAVE ABOUT IT'S ON. BUT I THINK

01:16 - 07.296 MENTIONED IN PASSING IS ABOUT

01:16 - 09.364 37% LEFT OF THE LEASE IS WE

01:16 - 11.266 HAVE THAT HASN'T BEEN

01:16 - 12.501 DEVELOPED. AND THEN AS SOMEONE

01:16 - 13.201 ELSE MENTIONED, WE DO SO TAKE

01:16 - 15.604 THE UNDER RIVERLEA SAYS WHEN

01:16 - 16.605 THEY COME UP LIKE WHERE THEY

01:16 - 17.205 COME UP WILL FACILITATE.

01:16 - 20.509 THAT'S THERE'S STILL A LOT OF

01:16 - 22.477 ACTIVITY. STILL A LOT OF USING

01:16 - 24.980 THE SAME PADS IN THE SAME

01:16 - 25.547 LEASES. STILL A LOT OF

01:16 - 26.481 EXPANSION AND THIS AMENDMENT

01:16 - 30.252 AMENDMENTS TO THE EXISTING

01:16 - 32.421 LEASES. SO THERE'S A LOT

01:16 - 33.488 OF ACTIVITY WE CONTINUALLY WORK

01:16 - 34.156 WITH THE COMPANY'S THE LEASE

01:16 - 36.758 HOLDERS OF A NUMBER OF WHICH

01:16 - 38.994 I AM.

01:16 - 39.661 NOW WE AT LEAST PARTIALLY ON

01:16 - 42.230 THE 40 MAN DOZENS OF LEASE

01:16 - 45.100 HOLDERS.

01:16 - 45.801 SO YES, IN THAT SEVEN-DAY

01:16 - 46.468 LEASES. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF

01:16 - 49.571 ACTIVITY ON THE STATE FOREST

01:16 - 52.741 LAND NOW.

01:16 - 53.609 AND THEN IT ARE IN OUR VIEW.

01:16 - 54.710 IT'S A MATTER IS PUT FOR RIGHT

01:16 - 57.813 NOW AND IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T

01:16 - 58.513 HOLD PENNSYLVANIA BACK. PUT IT

01:16 - 59.147 THAT WAY ON REST. PERFECT.

01:16 - 02.217 YOU ACTUALLY ANSWERED BY MY

01:17 - 03.218 SECOND QUESTION. SO I KNOW YOU

01:17 - 06.088 CAN'T LIFT THE MORATORIUM, BUT

01:17 - 06.655 BUT YOU CAN REVISE IT.

01:17 - 09.257 >>ANY INTEREST IN REVISING IT

01:17 - 11.159 TO OPEN IT UP TO

01:17 - 11.827 MAYBE THE THE WHAT I WANT TO

01:17 - 12.794 SAY ARE DONE ON SERVICE IMPACT

01:17 - 16.865 WELLS OUTSIDE OF THE PARK AND

01:17 - 17.499 SOME OF THE FOREST AREAS.

01:17 - 18.600 >>WE WERE ASKED ABOUT THAT FROM

01:17 - 19.301 TIME TO TIME BY THE COMPANIES

01:17 - 20.669 THAT WE CONTINUE THE

01:17 - 23.705 DISCUSSION. BUT AT THIS POINT,

01:17 - 24.539 I THINK THE AMOUNT OF GAS

01:17 - 25.273 DEVELOPMENT ON THE STATE FOREST

01:17 - 28.010 LAND CONSIDERING ALL THE OTHER

01:17 - 28.777 USES

01:17 - 31.747 CONSIDERING ITS EXPANSION OF

01:17 - 33.715 RECREATION, OUTDOOR RECREATION,

01:17 - 34.516 CONSIDERING OUR WORK TO REALLY

01:17 - 35.217 SAVE THE HARDWOOD DEVELOPMENT

01:17 - 37.085 INDUSTRY IN PENNSYLVANIA.

01:17 - 40.355 AND THEY HAVE WE'RE FOR US

01:17 - 42.758 REMAIN AUREUS. WE FEEL IF THIS

01:17 - 43.458 WEREN'T ENOUGH DEVELOPMENT AT

01:17 - 45.961 THIS POINT IN TIME, I'M SURE

01:17 - 47.129 IT'S AN ISSUE THAT.

01:17 - 48.130 AND WE CONSTANTLY REVISIT ITS

01:17 - 51.333 PUBLIC LANDS. WE EXPECT THAT

01:17 - 52.267 KIND OF A DIALOGUE.

01:17 - 55.037 >>YES, SO I GET ONE WITH THAT

01:17 - 55.771 POLICY. BE THE SAME FOR MUCH US

01:17 - 58.173 EXPANDING GAUSMAN CERTAIN STATE

01:17 - 59.174 FOREST

01:17 - 00.242 AS WELL.

01:18 - 01.109 >>WHEN AND SOME ALMOST EXPANDED

01:18 - 02.077 GUESS EXACTLY. SO CLOSE.

01:18 - 04.680 NOT WELL. IT'S ALWAYS KNOW GAS

01:18 - 06.682 LINES, WATER LINES AS OF YET

01:18 - 09.751 ROAD THERE'S BEEN A BIT LAND

01:18 - 12.988 DISTURBANCE.

01:18 - 13.855 SOME OF THE IMPACTS THAT WE

01:18 - 14.589 MEASURE THE MOST ARE INVASIVE

01:18 - 17.693 SPECIES. FOR WE'RE TRYING TO

01:18 - 18.727 KEEP THE

01:18 - 20.328 REPOSITORY OF NATIVE SPECIES

01:18 - 20.996 AND REALLY BE BACK INVASIVE.

01:18 - 23.632 SO THOSE ANY TIME TO COVER ROAD

01:18 - 27.836 TO ALIGN. IT OPENS UP THE SOIL

01:18 - 29.871 FOR INVASIVE. SO WE DO. WE DO

01:18 - 30.972 MEASURE. WE DO HAVE A PROCESS

01:18 - 32.340 BY WHICH THE COMPANIES THAT

01:18 - 35.911 ARE MOVING A CAN APPLY AND WORK

01:18 - 37.479 WITH OUR STAFF. THE SITE AT THE

01:18 - 39.381 PROPER PLACE TO HAVE A MINIMAL

01:18 - 41.616 EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

01:18 - 43.719 AND THEN TO RESTORE THE CORPUS

01:18 - 44.419 THE TRUST AND BY ALL

01:18 - 49.324 PENNSYLVANIANS TO IT'S TRUE

01:18 - 50.525 THAT CORPUS US THAT IS THE

01:18 - 51.159 DIMINISHMENT OF THE PUBLIC

01:18 - 51.860 STATE. KIND OF PERFECT. THANK

01:18 - 52.561 YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

01:18 - 53.195 CHAIRMAN OF THE QUESTION.

01:18 - 54.362 THANK YOU, GENERAL

01:18 - 57.365 REPRESENTATIVE WEBSTER. THANK

01:18 - 58.333 YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND

01:18 - 00.335 >>I GOT A LOT HERE CENTER.

01:19 - 01.103 SOME GOING TO TRY TO GO FAST.

01:19 - 01.803 SECRETARY CHARLIE, THANKS FOR

01:19 - 03.739 BEING HERE. I'M GOING TO START

01:19 - 04.473 THEIR SECRETARY, DONNA. I GOT I

01:19 - 06.975 GOT GOOD QUESTIONS IN BOTH

01:19 - 09.044 DIRECTIONS.

01:19 - 09.778 YOU WALKED WITH ME WHEN WE KICK

01:19 - 11.880 KICKED OFF THE PERKIOMEN

01:19 - 14.950 WATERSHED STUDIES AND DEPUTY

01:19 - 16.017 SECRETARY WRITER WAS THERE AS

01:19 - 17.853 WELL. AND AND WE'VE COMPLETED

01:19 - 19.087 THE STUDY. THE MODEL IS BILL,

01:19 - 21.156 AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR TOP

01:19 - 22.524 20 PROJECTS WILL DAY. YOU KNOW,

01:19 - 25.927 WHEN I LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND

01:19 - 27.896 OVER THE PAST, IF YOU BUDGETS,

01:19 - 28.597 I SEE A LOT OF MONEY FOR GOOD

01:19 - 31.333 REASON IN THE SUSQUEHANNA

01:19 - 33.068 WATERSHED.

01:19 - 33.735 THAT PROTECTS THE CHESAPEAKE

01:19 - 36.571 BAY AND THE THINGS WE HAVE TO

01:19 - 37.472 DO IMPORTANT. BUT HOW DO WE

01:19 - 41.143 GET SOME POOR, CERTAIN 10%?

01:19 - 43.011 SOME LITTLE BIT OVER TO THE

01:19 - 45.781 DELAWARE WATERSHED SO THAT WE

01:19 - 46.748 CAN START PROTECTING THAT PART

01:19 - 49.785 OF, YOU KNOW, I THINK,

01:19 - 52.988 INCLUDING RIGHT, RIGHT THROUGH

01:19 - 54.489 EVANS BERG STATE PARK.

01:19 - 57.559 ANTICIPATED THAT I THOUGHT I

01:19 - 00.762 WAS HOPING YOU WOULD.

01:20 - 02.731 >>SO I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE

01:20 - 03.765 REPORT A FEW TO FULL. YOU GUYS

01:20 - 07.702 DID A REALLY GREAT JOB WITH

01:20 - 09.738 THAT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS

01:20 - 11.606 THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT

01:20 - 13.708 I I HIGHLIGHTED IS MAKING SURE

01:20 - 14.509 THAT THERE'S REALLY STRONG

01:20 - 15.177 PARTNERSHIPS AT YOUR COUNTY

01:20 - 16.111 CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT.

01:20 - 23.084 AND I KNOW THAT THAT YOU HAVE

01:20 - 23.752 THOSE SO WE HAVE

01:20 - 25.854 JUST TO HIGHLIGHT 2, WE RECEIVE

01:20 - 26.988 A LOT OF FEDERAL FUNDING FOR

01:20 - 27.823 CHESAPEAKE BAY. THAT'S WHY IT

01:20 - 29.157 LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SO MUCH

01:20 - 31.993 FUNDING FOR BUT THERE ARE OTHER

01:20 - 33.962 PROGRAMS THEY ARE STATEWIDE

01:20 - 37.966 LIKE A CAP AND GROWING GREENER

01:20 - 41.903 IN PARTICULAR. SO

01:20 - 42.637 WE'VE LEARNED FROM YOUR COUNTY

01:20 - 46.408 ACTUALLY, THERE COMMISSIONERS

01:20 - 47.042 DEDICATED SOME FUNDING FOR

01:20 - 48.677 WATER, QUALITY DATA. AND I KNOW

01:20 - 52.681 THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS

01:20 - 53.582 THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN THAT

01:20 - 54.449 PLAN. SO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING

01:20 - 56.685 THERE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE

01:20 - 58.320 EXACTLY WHERE THAT OUT OF

01:20 - 58.987 FUNDING CAME FROM FOR THOSE

01:20 - 59.688 COUNTIES THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN

01:20 - 01.756 THAT STEP TO SEE WHAT IS THE

01:21 - 03.792 WATER

01:21 - 04.526 QUALITY LIKE IN IN YORK COUNTY.

01:21 - 07.028 AND IT'S IT'S BEEN VERY

01:21 - 10.432 SUCCESSFUL FOR THEM.

01:21 - 11.132 GROWING GREENER OPENS ON EARTH

01:21 - 12.634 DAY. AND WE REALLY THINK THAT

01:21 - 15.837 IT COULD BE A HUGE OPPORTUNITY

01:21 - 19.074 FOR YOUR GREEN LANE. EARL STORM

01:21 - 19.774 WATER PARK. YOU KNOW, AMAZING

01:21 - 22.644 PROGRAM. THERE. WE ARE SEEING

01:21 - 23.378 REVENUES KIND

01:21 - 25.947 OF DROP-OFF, BUT WE STILL TRY

01:21 - 28.149 TO MAXIMIZE MAXIMIZE THOSE

01:21 - 28.984 DOLLARS. WE ALSO HAVE SOMETHING

01:21 - 32.454 NEW THIS YEAR, WHICH WILL ALSO

01:21 - 34.122 BE OPENING ON EARTH DAY.

01:21 - 37.759 APRIL 22ND SECTION 3.19, TIER

01:21 - 41.029 3 MONITORING MANY GRANTS WITHIN

01:21 - 41.529 THE 3.19 WATERSHED

01:21 - 47.168 IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND IT WILL

01:21 - 48.303 BE A COORDINATING WITH LARGER

01:21 - 48.970 ENTITIES TO AWARD THESE MINI

01:21 - 52.374 GRANTS ACROSS THE STATES AND WE

01:21 - 55.243 WILL BE TARGETING SPECIFIC

01:21 - 59.381 REGIONS FOR FOR THOSE MANY

01:21 - 01.983 GRANTS UP TO A MAXIMUM

01:22 - 02.684 AMOUNT OF $15,000 FOR SOME OF

01:22 - 05.186 FOR SOME OF THOSE. WE, AS YOU

01:22 - 06.821 KNOW, SOME SO MANY OF THE THERE

01:22 - 09.457 ARE SOME REALLY BIG PROJECTS,

01:22 - 10.825 YOU KNOW, 17 MILES OF AN

01:22 - 11.426 EAST-WEST INTERSECTION.

01:22 - 13.895 >>AND THAT THAT'S DESIGNED

01:22 - 16.064 INCORRECTLY FOR TODAY'S WATER

01:22 - 16.765 FLOW. BUT THERE ARE ALSO MANY,

01:22 - 21.369 MANY SMALL PROJECTS THAT WOULD

01:22 - 22.003 FIT IN. I APPRECIATE THAT.

01:22 - 22.704 BUT MAYBE EAT AN ELEPHANT ONE

01:22 - 23.405 BITE AT A TIME. GOING TO HAVE

01:22 - 25.240 TO. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO COME

01:22 - 25.573 BACK IN.

01:22 - 28.376 >>AND AND MY TEAM IN PARTICULAR

01:22 - 29.110 NEEDS WHEN NO, WE'VE WE'VE DONE

01:22 - 33.348 THE STUDY. WE NOW NEED TO LEARN

01:22 - 33.982 HOW TO INTERACT IN AND ITS

01:22 - 37.419 REGIONAL. IT'S 4 COUNTIES.

01:22 - 40.488 SO IT, YOU KNOW, WE THINK WE

01:22 - 41.389 HAVE SOME SUBSTANTIAL IT ASKS

01:22 - 42.490 AND APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP IN

01:22 - 46.227 THAT REGARD. AND I'M GLAD YOU

01:22 - 47.095 ARE THINKING OF US. SO

01:22 - 49.230 SECRETARY DUNN, THIS IS SIMPLE

01:22 - 50.899 QUESTION. MY MY DISTRICT ALSO

01:22 - 51.599 BORDERS VALLEY FORGE NATIONAL

01:22 - 54.869 PARK AND FOR MY COLLEAGUES THAT

01:22 - 56.137 MAY NOT KNOW THIS UNTIL 1976.

01:22 - 57.839 VALLEY FORGE WAS A STATE PARK.

01:22 - 59.741 AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE

01:22 - 00.408 I WOULD HAVE BEEN A CANNON.

01:23 - 03.044 IT DIDN'T MATTER TO ME AT THAT

01:23 - 06.715 POINT.

01:23 - 07.382 SO THIS YEAR A MARKET TO 50,

01:23 - 09.484 BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THE 50TH

01:23 - 11.052 BIRTHDAY FOR VALLEY FORGE

01:23 - 11.786 NATIONAL PARK. I'M JUST CURIOUS

01:23 - 13.722 IN THE CELEBRATIONS AND THINGS

01:23 - 15.256 YOU DESIGN IS IS THERE

01:23 - 18.893 SOMETHING IN YOUR AROUND THAT

01:23 - 19.961 INTERSECTS SO THAT

01:23 - 21.863 WE CELEBRATE PENNSYLVANIA'S

01:23 - 23.898 GIFT TO THE TO THE NATIONAL

01:23 - 24.566 LIVES AND WE GAVE IT AWAY TO

01:23 - 27.002 DEFEND THE U.S.. WE HAVE

01:23 - 28.603 STARTED THIS A.

01:23 - 29.304 >>THE CASE FOR, BUT THEY DID A

01:23 - 30.038 PHENOMENAL JOB VALLEY, FLORIDA.

01:23 - 32.374 WE WORK IN A GREAT PARTNERSHIP

01:23 - 33.475 WITH THEM. BUT YES, WE HAVE OUR

01:23 - 35.477 ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATORS HAVE

01:23 - 37.112 BEEN PREPARING FOR AMERICA TO

01:23 - 37.746 50 OR OVER A YEAR. THEY'RE

01:23 - 40.348 REALLY READY WITH PROGRAMS

01:23 - 42.851 ACROSS OUR SYSTEM.

01:23 - 43.485 WE WE REACHED THOUSANDS OF

01:23 - 46.654 YOUNG PEOPLE, TEACHERS AND

01:23 - 48.723 VISITORS TO STATE PARKS.

01:23 - 49.491 AND I THINK THE THE THING ABOUT

01:23 - 50.158 THIS YEAR IS PEOPLE WILL BE

01:23 - 52.494 APPROACHING THE PUBLIC LANDS

01:23 - 53.762 WITH CURIOSITY. WANT TO LEARN

01:23 - 54.963 MORE ABOUT THEIR OWN

01:23 - 55.697 NEIGHBORHOOD, GO TO THEIR LOCAL

01:23 - 58.166 PARK AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE

01:23 - 59.134 AREA THEY LIVE IN.

01:23 - 01.069 >>IT WILL BE MOVING AROUND

01:24 - 01.736 PENNSYLVANIA TO VISIT OTHER

01:24 - 02.370 PLACES AND SPENDING MONEY.

01:24 - 04.472 AND OF COURSE, WE'LL GET ON.

01:24 - 07.509 >>A STATE IN OUR COUNTRY,

01:24 - 10.979 VISITORS THROUGHOUT OUR SYSTEM.

01:24 - 11.579 WE WE CAUGHT ON BENCHES.

01:24 - 13.114 WE GOT 100,000 BUCKS ON BENCHES

01:24 - 13.782 AND I KNOW IT PROGRAMS LAST

01:24 - 16.284 YEAR.

01:24 - 17.018 >>AND WE

01:24 - 17.685 EXPECT TO BILLY, I SEE THAT

01:24 - 24.459 THIS YEAR WAS DEEPER INTEREST

01:24 - 25.493 IN LEARNING AND EVERYONE WILL

01:24 - 26.461 ROAST PRIEST WITH THAT HUGE

01:24 - 28.496 OPPORTUNITY. I HOPE THAT THE

01:24 - 29.697 SUPERINTENDENT NOW HAS INVITED

01:24 - 30.565 YOU AT LEAST TO BE. YOU KNOW,

01:24 - 34.335 I'VE BEEN A LOT OF US OUT THERE

01:24 - 35.036 PUBLIC ON THAT. YEAH, THANK.

01:24 - 35.703 THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISTER

01:24 - 38.673 CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. GENERAL

01:24 - 39.274 REPRESENTATIVE RECORD.

01:24 - 39.908 >>THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN

01:24 - 43.244 SECRETARY, SURELY THANK YOU FOR

01:24 - 44.012 JOINING US. SECRETARY DON.

01:24 - 46.748 I REALLY LIKE TO THANK YOU.

01:24 - 49.284 AND DEPUTY SECRETARY NOR BACK

01:24 - 50.218 FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND

01:24 - 52.253 LEADERSHIP IN RE IMAGINING THE

01:24 - 53.721 PENN STATE MONT OUT OF CAMPUS.

01:24 - 54.355 YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S REALLY

01:24 - 56.925 COMFORTING TO KNOW THAT, YOU

01:24 - 57.492 KNOW, THAT THAT.

01:24 - 01.196 CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE FACING

01:25 - 01.863 BACK HOME IN MY DISTRICT AND

01:25 - 02.530 YOUR WILLINGNESS TO STEP UP.

01:25 - 03.164 AND I KNOW A LOT OF THESE

01:25 - 05.700 CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN

01:25 - 06.401 DEFINITELY HAPPENING ON A MUCH

01:25 - 07.802 HIGHER, BROADER LEVEL. BUT

01:25 - 08.736 WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SHARE

01:25 - 10.472 WITH US SOME OF YOUR THOUGHTS

01:25 - 12.107 AND PLANS AS YOU'RE ABLE TO

01:25 - 12.774 WITH HOW WE CAN PARTNER WITH

01:25 - 16.077 YOU IN IN RE IMAGINING PENN

01:25 - 17.178 STATE MONT OUT OF I'LL JUST SAY

01:25 - 18.079 SOMETHING BRIEFLY. NOW FLIP IT

01:25 - 21.082 TO TO JOHN HAS ACTUALLY BEEN

01:25 - 22.083 WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE AND

01:25 - 24.119 EVERYONE HAS CENTERED AROUND IS

01:25 - 25.587 IT IS LIKE A HOLY PLACE FOR

01:25 - 26.187 DCNR IS THE BEGINNING OF

01:25 - 27.956 FORESTRY AND PENNSYLVANIA WITH

01:25 - 29.657 THOSE OF TEEN ROTH ROCK.

01:25 - 30.592 >>IT'S A CITY PRONOUNCE ROSE

01:25 - 34.162 ROCK APPARENTLY FROM THOSE FROM

01:25 - 36.064 THE FACE TOWN. TELL ME. BUT

01:25 - 37.165 THIS IS COOL FOR SURE. WITH

01:25 - 40.301 NOW TOMORROW LAID ACT. ONE OF

01:25 - 41.603 OUR HEROINE'S THAT WE

01:25 - 43.304 LISTEN AND LEARN FROM IT WAS

01:25 - 44.038 A HARRIS BERGER WHO WAS PART OF

01:25 - 47.008 THE CITY BEAUTIFUL MOVEMENT AND

01:25 - 49.544 HELPED LAUNCH MONT ALTO.

01:25 - 50.245 SO KEY WOMAN, CIVIC LEADER AND

01:25 - 51.646 A KEY FOR US TO REALLY GOT FOR

01:25 - 53.548 SURE GOING TO PENNSYLVANIA.

01:25 - 54.549 SO IT'S CRITICAL AS A HISTORIC

01:25 - 55.650 SITE. WE'VE GOT THE ARBORETUM.

01:25 - 56.351 WE'VE GOT A LITTLE STATE PARK

01:25 - 58.786 NESTLED IN THERE WITH A REALLY

01:25 - 59.454 COOL PAVILION. AND WE'VE GOT

01:25 - 03.391 THE IN THE SHOW, STAY FORCE

01:26 - 04.492 BEHIND IT. SO

01:26 - 05.493 AND GOT TO FIGHT FOR YOUR

01:26 - 07.996 INTERESTS AND LEADERS THAT WERE

01:26 - 08.696 VERY MUCH COMMITTED TO ON OUT

01:26 - 09.364 THERE AND ON AND NOT TALK A

01:26 - 10.198 LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE

01:26 - 13.101 THOUGHTS. YOU MIGHT WANT TO

01:26 - 14.035 SHARE THIS POINT. THANK YOU.

01:26 - 20.074 THANK YOU, SIR. THE 3RD AND AND

01:26 - 20.742 REPRESENTATIVE RECORD AS YOU

01:26 - 21.376 KNOW, BUT MAYBE SOME OTHER

01:26 - 24.612 FOLKS IN THIS ROOM DON'T KNOW

01:26 - 25.313 IS THAT THERE IS A A GROUP OF

01:26 - 26.014 COMMUNITY LEADERS IN FRANKLIN

01:26 - 27.815 COUNTY THAT ARE REALLY LOOKING

01:26 - 31.619 AT RE-IMAGINING MOUNT ALTO.

01:26 - 32.253 >>FOR THE NEXT CENTURY AND

01:26 - 34.923 DECENT ARES REALLY PROUD AND

01:26 - 35.723 HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THAT

01:26 - 36.424 REIMAGINATION OTHERS. THERE'S

01:26 - 39.928 A THERE'S HUGE OPPORTUNITIES

01:26 - 41.396 THERE RIGHT? AND THE THE SUGAR

01:26 - 41.996 ADMINISTRATION IS REALLY

01:26 - 44.532 INTERESTED IN SEEING WITH THE

01:26 - 48.469 NEXT. INTEGRATION OF MEN OUT

01:26 - 49.137 WHO'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW,

01:26 - 51.706 FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE BELIEVE

01:26 - 53.575 THAT IT NEEDS TO BE.

01:26 - 54.776 DEEPLY ROOTED IN OUR FOR SURE

01:26 - 55.443 HISTORY AND ALSO EDUCATION.

01:26 - 59.013 AND IT WAS LIKE SECRETARY SAID

01:26 - 59.681 IT WAS A IT WAS A SCHOOL FOR

01:26 - 03.184 STREET, HER SCHOOL FOR SURE.

01:27 - 05.486 IN PENNSYLVANIA

01:27 - 06.187 SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT TO

01:27 - 08.389 STAY ALONG THAT VEIN IN THE

01:27 - 10.592 GROUP THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

01:27 - 13.728 AND WE HAVE A K THROUGH 12 THAT

01:27 - 14.829 IT'S VERY INTERESTED. WE

01:27 - 16.931 HAVE A SOME OF HER COLLEGE IS

01:27 - 18.866 INTERESTED IN OPPORTUNITIES

01:27 - 19.667 THERE. WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS

01:27 - 20.368 WITH PENN STATE AND PENN STATE

01:27 - 23.071 STILL INTERESTED IN HAVING A

01:27 - 24.305 FOOTPRINT THERE THAT WE BELIEVE

01:27 - 26.441 WORK REALLY WELL WITH THE THAT

01:27 - 32.814 FORESTRY THEME AND LOOK AT HIM

01:27 - 35.883 WHAT WHAT WHAT OUR ROLE IS.

01:27 - 36.584 IT WILL BE A LOT. THE WILL BE

01:27 - 39.220 DETERMINED OVER THE NEXT 6 OR

01:27 - 42.190 8 MONTHS. PROBABLY. AND SOME

01:27 - 43.324 OF THAT MAY BE BACK IN YOUR

01:27 - 43.992 HANDS. I'M GOOD. I CERTAINLY

01:27 - 44.659 LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH

01:27 - 46.361 YOU ON THAT AGAIN. IT'S IT'S

01:27 - 47.862 EXTRAORDINARILY IMPORTANT FOR.

01:27 - 48.529 >>THE FOLKS BACK IN FRANKLIN

01:27 - 52.300 COUNTY AS IT IS OBVIOUSLY FOR

01:27 - 53.301 DCNR AS WELL. I MEAN, THAT THAT

01:27 - 53.968 FORESTRY COMPONENT IS HUGE.

01:27 - 56.804 HUGE IN FRANKLIN COUNTY AND A

01:27 - 59.107 LOT OF FOLKS GRADUATE IN THE

01:27 - 01.309 HAVE, YOU KNOW, BUT THE DCNR

01:28 - 03.278 AND REALLY THAT FORESTRY

01:28 - 04.312 COMPONENT IN THE FRANKLIN

01:28 - 06.447 COUNTY, THE YOU KNOW, WHETHER

01:28 - 07.315 IT'S THROUGH DCNR PRIVATE

01:28 - 07.982 TIMBER HOUSTON, THAT SORT OF

01:28 - 10.251 STUFF IS HUGE IT FOR OUR LOCAL

01:28 - 11.586 ECONOMY. SO I REALLY DO

01:28 - 14.188 APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED UP

01:28 - 17.292 COMMITMENT TO THAT. ALONG THE

01:28 - 17.558 SAME

01:28 - 20.595 LINES OF IF FOR STREET. AND

01:28 - 21.929 THAT'S IN TIMBER SALES. JUST

01:28 - 26.134 CURIOUS WHERE WE STAND SORT

01:28 - 27.568 OF FROM LAST YEAR WHERE WE WHAT

01:28 - 28.269 THE TARGETS FOR SAYS WHAT WHAT

01:28 - 30.038 WE YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY SAW AS

01:28 - 30.705 FAR AS TIMBER SALES AND THEN

01:28 - 35.777 WHAT MAY BE OUR TARGETS MIGHT

01:28 - 36.811 BE FOR 2026. FOREST REINFORCE

01:28 - 37.545 PRODUCTS FROM AN IMPORTANT PART

01:28 - 38.246 OF OUR MISSION IS ONE OF OUR

01:28 - 41.282 CORE MISSIONS FROM FROM THE

01:28 - 42.216 BEGINNING.

01:28 - 44.118 >>ARE.

01:28 - 44.819 >>WE HAVE A STRONG YEAR, DON.

01:28 - 46.220 AND THEREFORE STREET REALLY

01:28 - 47.322 LAID OUT GOALS THAT WE'VE BEEN

01:28 - 50.525 ABLE TO MEET. AND MY EYES ARE

01:28 - 51.659 NOT PICKING OUT THE

01:28 - 52.593 NUMBER HERE.

01:28 - 55.029 >>AND YOU SEE IT. YOU GOT YOUR

01:28 - 55.730 SO WE DO MANAGE AND ECOSYSTEM

01:28 - 58.132 MANAGEMENT BASIS. ALL RIGHT.

01:28 - 59.000 SO WE HAVE STARTED.

01:28 - 01.135 >>WHEN WE STARTED DOING THAT

01:29 - 02.036 TYPE OF ANY BACK IN THE 90'S.

01:29 - 05.239 AND BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE

01:29 - 06.774 LOOK AT THE 10 YEAR

01:29 - 07.141 FROM EACH

01:29 - 11.012 >>YEARS FOR A TIMBER HARVESTS

01:29 - 15.316 AND ALLOCATIONS WE WE HAVE SET

01:29 - 17.385 A GOAL EACH YEAR IN NEWS AND

01:29 - 21.189 THAT LAST 10 YEAR CYCLE WORKING

01:29 - 21.923 1356 ACRES SHOULD BE HARVESTED.

01:29 - 24.492 THE KEY PART OF THE ECOSYSTEM,

01:29 - 28.396 HEALTHY.

01:29 - 29.063 THIS PAST YEAR, WE PARKS DID

01:29 - 31.499 ABOUT 16 A LITTLE BIT OF A

01:29 - 32.567 16,000 ACRES SORT OR OUR SON

01:29 - 33.434 WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN IT

01:29 - 34.135 WAS THE PREVIOUS YEAR. LITTLE

01:29 - 36.738 BIT MORE THAN THAT. OUR GOAL,

01:29 - 38.072 OUR OBJECTIVE.

01:29 - 39.107 SO YOU BREAK THAT TYPE OF

01:29 - 41.509 HARVESTING DOWN ABOUT 10,000

01:29 - 42.143 ACRES TO THAT OVER STORY.

01:29 - 46.614 AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE A LOT

01:29 - 49.450 OF THE GOOD WITH QUALITY

01:29 - 50.084 COMES FROM. WE DID DO SOME

01:29 - 53.621 SHELTER. WOULD INTERMEDIATE

01:29 - 54.355 CUTS ABOUT 6,000 ACRES AND THAT

01:29 - 56.758 IS REALLY PREPARED TO WHERE

01:29 - 57.458 IT'S IT'S LIKE THE THE 4 INCH

01:29 - 00.528 RIGHT. AND WE'RE ALSO DOING

01:30 - 04.165 SOME. TIMBER HARVESTS FOR

01:30 - 06.467 SALVAGE FROM A SPONGY MOTH KILL

01:30 - 09.570 AND WHAT WE TRY TO DO THEIR TO

01:30 - 13.141 ITS REALLY NOT PLANNED.

01:30 - 13.875 WITH A PERSON PLAN. BUT BUT THE

01:30 - 15.009 THE ACRES AND A PLANNED, IT'S

01:30 - 16.411 UP TO THE BUCKS THAT TELL US

01:30 - 19.313 HOW MANY AS WE NEED TO HARVEST.

01:30 - 23.251 SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT 700 ACRES

01:30 - 23.918 OF SALVAGE LAST YEAR. GOOD.

01:30 - 24.519 THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR.

01:30 - 25.186 IF I JUST JUST ONE FOLLOW-UP

01:30 - 28.956 HOUR, IF I COULD, PLEASE, SIR.

01:30 - 32.460 >>30 SECONDS. I DO THINK WE'LL

01:30 - 34.962 BE ON TARGET FOR 2026, I DO.

01:30 - 35.630 OK, THANK YOU. WES MATTHEWS

01:30 - 38.166 ENTERED. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

01:30 - 39.967 REPRESENTATIVE CURRY.

01:30 - 41.936 >>THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. HELLO,

01:30 - 42.603 EVERYONE. HI, THIS MESSAGE.

01:30 - 45.840 AND THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU,

01:30 - 51.112 SECRETARY. SURELY AROUND LEAD

01:30 - 51.746 TESTING FOR CHILDREN IN MY

01:30 - 55.450 MUNICIPALITY'S. I'VE BEEN

01:30 - 57.051 GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS

01:30 - 02.089 AROUND. YOU KNOW, THE LEAD

01:31 - 02.890 ISSUE AND WE HAVE ONE

01:31 - 04.859 MUNICIPALITY THAT ACTUALLY

01:31 - 08.463 PASSED AN ORDINANCE EAST

01:31 - 12.600 LANSDOWNE. AND WE'RE WORKING ON

01:31 - 14.535 UPPER DARBY RIGHT NOW. I KNOW

01:31 - 15.403 IT'S ALSO BEEN A QUESTION IN

01:31 - 17.338 LANSDOWNE, BUT I THINK SOME

01:31 - 18.706 OF THE SMALLER BOROUGHS AND

01:31 - 20.575 LANSDOWNE, I MEAN, THE SMALLER

01:31 - 22.577 BOROUGHS AND MUNICIPALITIES.

01:31 - 23.878 THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE COST

01:31 - 28.216 FACTOR OF, YOU KNOW, LEAD

01:31 - 30.651 TESTING IN THE HOMES

01:31 - 31.319 THE ONE TESTING SURVEILLANCE

01:31 - 34.655 TESTING REPORT, I THINK IS THE

01:31 - 36.190 CHILDHOOD LEAD TESTING REPORT.

01:31 - 38.426 THEY CAME OUT RIGHT AROUND THE

01:31 - 42.263 SAME TIME. THE AKC ONE, 50 WAS

01:31 - 42.930 PASSED IN 2022. STATES THAT

01:31 - 45.933 THERE WAS GOING TO BE

01:31 - 46.801 SURVEILLANCE.

01:31 - 47.502 AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE, YOU

01:31 - 51.539 KNOW, KEEPING DOCUMENTATION

01:31 - 52.206 ON THE CHILDREN WHO HAD BEEN

01:31 - 55.776 TESTED. WELL, THAT I FEEL LIKE.

01:31 - 58.379 HAS NOT REALLY COME FORWARD.

01:31 - 00.581 I HAD SOMEONE OUT OF THE

01:32 - 02.550 SMALLER AND BOROUGH THAT I

01:32 - 03.551 REPRESENT. ASK ME WHERE THIS

01:32 - 04.252 TESTS IS AND WHERE THE RESULTS

01:32 - 06.854 ARE AND HOW THAT THEY CAN GET

01:32 - 08.222 THEM.

01:32 - 09.590 SO CAN YOU TELL US IF YOU KNOW

01:32 - 13.261 WHAT SOME OF THE RESULTS ARE

01:32 - 15.429 AND HIGHLIGHT THIS

01:32 - 17.231 AND HOW THE MUNICIPALITY'S CAN

01:32 - 17.865 GET THIS INFORMATION. SO I

01:32 - 19.433 THINK THE INFORMATION THAT

01:32 - 21.302 YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS PROBABLY

01:32 - 24.071 FROM PROVIDERS THROUGH DOCTORS,

01:32 - 24.672 MEDICAL PROVIDERS, AND I

01:32 - 25.373 BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A PROGRAM

01:32 - 27.642 THAT'S BEING OPERATED BY THE

01:32 - 29.877 DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

01:32 - 33.648 >>WE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING

01:32 - 36.183 ON THIS ISSUE SPECIFICALLY LEAD

01:32 - 36.717 THROUGH OUR E J I C

01:32 - 40.388 ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE INNER

01:32 - 41.222 AGENCY COUNCIL WHICH THE

01:32 - 42.890 DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IS PART

01:32 - 45.826 OF THE FIELD IN EDUCATION,

01:32 - 48.863 DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES,

01:32 - 49.897 A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES

01:32 - 50.798 SPECIFICALLY AROUND LEAD

01:32 - 54.902 BECAUSE PENNSYLVANIA DOES HAVE

01:32 - 57.638 VERY HIGH LEVELS OF LEAD IN

01:32 - 58.339 COMPARISON TO THE REST OF THE

01:32 - 00.374 COUNTRY. MOST OF THAT IS

01:33 - 02.343 ATTRIBUTED TO ARE VERY OLD

01:33 - 04.278 HOUSING STOCK AND SOME OF IT

01:33 - 06.480 IS ATTRIBUTED TO LEAD SERVICE

01:33 - 09.050 LINES THAT DELIVER DRINKING

01:33 - 11.619 WATER. SO WE OVERSEE THE LEAD

01:33 - 14.689 SERVICE LINE REPLACEMENTS.

01:33 - 17.725 THROUGH THOSE DRINKING WATER

01:33 - 18.960 SYSTEMS. AND THIS FALL. I'M I'M

01:33 - 22.129 HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE ARE THE

01:33 - 24.599 ONLY STATE IN THE COUNTRY THAT

01:33 - 28.636 HAS ALLOCATED ALL OF OUR

01:33 - 29.537 FEDERAL B A L FUNDING FOR LEAD

01:33 - 32.506 SERVICE LINE REPLACEMENT.

01:33 - 35.309 SO IF THEY GIVE US A DOLLAR,

01:33 - 37.812 WE'RE SPENDING A DOLLAR AND WE

01:33 - 38.412 HAVE RECEIVED MORE THAN

01:33 - 40.982 150 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR

01:33 - 42.783 FOR THE LAST

01:33 - 43.484 3 YEARS. AND WITH THAT SPECIAL

01:33 - 46.053 5 TO EXCUSE ME, THAT SPECIAL

01:33 - 49.156 POT DIRECTED AT REMOVING THOSE

01:33 - 53.260 LEAD SERVICE LINES. THAT DOES

01:33 - 54.228 NOT INCLUDE BOMBING. AND

01:33 - 56.263 UNFORTUNATELY, THIS SEEMS TO

01:33 - 58.132 BE A PRETTY BIG GAP, ONE THAT I

01:33 - 00.568 ACTUALLY PERSONALLY ADVOCATED

01:34 - 04.338 WHEN THE I WAS BEING WRITTEN

01:34 - 07.408 TO INCLUDE IT MUST HAVE GOTTEN

01:34 - 10.211 LOST HER AT THE

01:34 - 11.178 FEDERAL LEVEL. BUT IT IS IT IS

01:34 - 13.147 I WOULD SAY A PROBLEM. WE DO A

01:34 - 16.217 LOT OF EDUCATION AROUND

01:34 - 19.120 PARTICULARLY

01:34 - 22.890 WE DO. WE LOOK AT BRASS

01:34 - 23.557 FIXTURES. DON'T ORDER ORDER

01:34 - 30.064 YOUR YOUR PLUMBING PRODUCTS

01:34 - 30.931 FROM LIKE BECAUSE THEY LIKELY

01:34 - 31.565 CONTAIN LEAD. THAT TYPE OF

01:34 - 33.901 EDUCATION IS SOMETHING THAT

01:34 - 34.935 WE DO A GOOD ENOUGH. I REALLY

01:34 - 36.937 APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE, YOU

01:34 - 37.538 KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE

01:34 - 38.139 DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IS

01:34 - 40.741 INCLUDED, YOU KNOW, AND REALLY

01:34 - 42.910 IS A BIG.

01:34 - 45.613 YOU KNOW, DRIVER IN THIS WORK

01:34 - 47.248 AND I'M HAPPY TO KNOW THAT YOU

01:34 - 47.948 ALL ARE USING THAT FUNDING THE

01:34 - 50.418 WAY ARE USING IT. THANK YOU

01:34 - 52.119 VERY MUCH.

01:34 - 52.687 ONE OF THE THINGS THE

01:34 - 55.222 MUNICIPALITY'S REALLY FOCUS ON

01:34 - 59.160 IS THAT LEAD PAINT THAT

01:34 - 00.127 SHIPPING IN THE HOME. SO IT

01:35 - 03.164 COMES DOWN TO AN ORDINANCE THAT

01:35 - 03.864 REALLY FALLS ON LANDLORDS AND

01:35 - 05.800 FOLKS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE

01:35 - 08.002 WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY PAINT

01:35 - 09.203 THERE HOME. SO THEY REMODEL OR

01:35 - 11.605 DO ANY TYPE OF WORK IN THE HOME

01:35 - 12.239 THAT THEY SHOULD BE REALLY

01:35 - 14.775 LOOKING AT THAT. IS THERE

01:35 - 16.177 ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET? THAT

01:35 - 18.779 YOU CAN SEE FROM YOUR IRAN?

01:35 - 21.515 THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE

01:35 - 24.618 COULD REALLY WORK ON IN TERMS

01:35 - 25.786 OF

01:35 - 26.754 HELPING THOSE HOMEOWNERS ARE

01:35 - 29.790 LANDLORDS TO BE ABLE TO GET

01:35 - 32.960 THIS TYPE OF WORK DONE TO MEET

01:35 - 33.728 THE ORDINANCE. SO

01:35 - 35.896 UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS PART OF

01:35 - 37.098 THAT GAP. ANYTHING WITHIN THE

01:35 - 39.967 HOME REALLY IS NOT SOMETHING

01:35 - 42.837 THAT THAT WE OVERSEE, BUT IT

01:35 - 44.638 IS WHERE EXPOSURE IS COMING

01:35 - 45.740 FROM. I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME

01:35 - 47.975 OTHER STATES THAT HAVE

01:35 - 48.576 DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS.

01:35 - 49.243 WHENEVER THERE'S REAL ESTATE

01:35 - 49.910 TRANSACTIONS. I DON'T THINK

01:35 - 54.348 PENNSYLVANIA IS ONE OF THEM.

01:35 - 56.117 SO THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ONE

01:35 - 56.851 OPTION ON TO HAVE YOU KNOW, ADD

01:35 - 59.620 A LEAD TEST, YOU KNOW, A SWIPE

01:35 - 02.523 TESTS ON PAIN SURFACES. BUT AS

01:36 - 03.758 FAR AS RESOURCES GO, NO, I DO

01:36 - 06.627 NOT BELIEVE THAT. I APPRECIATE

01:36 - 07.728 THAT. AND I WOULD LOVE TO WORK

01:36 - 08.629 FURTHER WITH YOU AND YOUR

01:36 - 10.397 DEPARTMENT ON A THANK YOU SO

01:36 - 11.031 MUCH. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

01:36 - 13.601 THANK THE GENTLE LADY

01:36 - 14.135 REPRESENTATIVE KALE.

01:36 - 14.769 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN

01:36 - 18.506 SECRETARIES, THANK YOU FOR

01:36 - 19.006 BEING HERE TODAY.

01:36 - 22.943 >>EARLIER TODAY, THE GOOD CHAIR

01:36 - 23.878 FROM PHILADELPHIA OPENED UP

01:36 - 25.813 THIS HEARING BY DISCUSSING

01:36 - 27.014 ISSUES RELATING TO

01:36 - 30.184 AFFORDABILITY AND GRID SECURITY

01:36 - 32.486 AND RELIABILITY.

01:36 - 33.287 AND I WANT TO TOUCH ON THOSE

01:36 - 37.424 ISSUES A LITTLE BIT WITH YOU.

01:36 - 40.361 SECRETARY SHIRLEY, IT THE ISSUE

01:36 - 41.262 OF BROWNOUTS AND BLACKOUTS AND

01:36 - 42.363 THE GRID POTENTIALLY SHUTTING

01:36 - 44.598 DOWN. SO WHAT WHAT THAT REALLY

01:36 - 45.332 MEANS IS ONE DAY YOU GO TO TURN

01:36 - 47.468 ON YOUR LIGHTS AND THEY DON'T

01:36 - 48.202 GO ON. AND THAT USUALLY OCCURS,

01:36 - 52.206 NOT ALWAYS BUT USUALLY OCCURS

01:36 - 54.275 WHEN DEMAND IS HIGH, MEANING

01:36 - 55.943 WHEN PEOPLE NEED ENERGY THE

01:36 - 56.644 MOST WHEN IT'S VERY COLD WHEN

01:36 - 59.280 IT'S VERY WARM AND IT CREATES A

01:36 - 02.449 VERY SERIOUS SITUATION.

01:37 - 04.018 AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND OUR

01:37 - 05.853 CAUCUS FOR YEARS, THE POTENTIAL

01:37 - 07.955 OF THIS BECOMING A PROBLEM IN

01:37 - 08.856 PENNSYLVANIA. AND I'M GLAD TO

01:37 - 09.490 HEAR THAT THERE'S NOW

01:37 - 11.325 BIPARTISAN DISCUSSION ON THIS

01:37 - 14.461 TOPIC BECAUSE IT IS REAL AND

01:37 - 15.362 IT COULD

01:37 - 17.431 BE COMING. BUT MY CONCERN IS I

01:37 - 19.500 HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE

01:37 - 20.134 ADMINISTRATION OR FROM MY

01:37 - 22.603 COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE,

01:37 - 25.806 THE OW A PLAN OR STRATEGY TO

01:37 - 27.474 PREVENT THIS FROM OCCURRING.

01:37 - 31.078 THAT MEETING WHEN THERE IS NOT

01:37 - 31.812 ENOUGH BASE LOAD ENERGY TO MEET

01:37 - 33.647 THAT DEMAND. THAT'S WHEN YOU

01:37 - 35.683 GET THESE BROWNOUTS AND

01:37 - 37.251 BLACKOUTS. SO I WANT TO ASK

01:37 - 37.785 YOU, WHAT IS THE

01:37 - 40.521 ADMINISTRATION'S STRATEGY?

01:37 - 41.188 MY BASE LOAD ENERGY? I MEAN,

01:37 - 45.292 ENERGY THAT USES COAL AND

01:37 - 46.026 NATURAL GAS AND NEW KILLER THAT

01:37 - 50.865 ALWAYS PRODUCES AND THE RAMP UP

01:37 - 51.999 WHEN DEMAND RISES. WHAT'S THE

01:37 - 54.802 ADMINISTRATION'S STRATEGY TO

01:37 - 55.336 INCREASING BASE LOAD

01:37 - 56.036 ELECTRICITY PRODUCTION IN THE

01:37 - 58.439 COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA.

01:37 - 01.208 SO I THINK

01:38 - 02.142 >>YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TALKING

01:38 - 03.210 ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE. I KNOW

01:38 - 04.478 THE SENATE HAS ALSO BEEN

01:38 - 05.145 TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE

01:38 - 07.781 AND WE JUST CAN'T SEEM TO KIND

01:38 - 08.616 OF.

01:38 - 10.818 EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO SAY WHAT

01:38 - 11.752 ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

01:38 - 14.889 AND I REALLY THINK THAT THE

01:38 - 16.991 GOVERNOR IS ATTEMPTING TO DO

01:38 - 17.691 THAT WITH HIS LIGHTNING PLAN,

01:38 - 20.694 BUT ALSO WITH SOME OF THE

01:38 - 21.996 REFORMS THAT HE HAS

01:38 - 25.299 BEEN PUSHING PJM. SO THAT'S

01:38 - 27.735 KIND OF I WOULD SAY THE

01:38 - 30.537 THE THE UNKNOWN, THE THING THAT

01:38 - 31.872 WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO

01:38 - 34.875 CONTROL OR 4 C IS THE WAY THAT

01:38 - 38.846 OUR GRID OPERATOR IS OPERATING.

01:38 - 40.481 SO WE HAVE SEEN SINCE 2018,

01:38 - 43.884 THE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS

01:38 - 46.954 INCREASED 200%. WE'VE SEEN

01:38 - 48.923 EXPORTS

01:38 - 49.657 FROM PENNSYLVANIA AND INCREASED

01:38 - 52.059 59%, WHICH WE LIKE TO BE THE

01:38 - 53.060 NUMBER ONE ELECTRICITY X

01:38 - 55.696 BORDER, EXCEPT THERE'S A LOT OF

01:38 - 56.430 THINGS GOING ON IN THE PJM GRID

01:38 - 58.899 THAT IS CAUSING THIS

01:38 - 00.034 INSTABILITY WILL SAY AND

01:39 - 05.973 CAUSING THESE PRICES TO GO UP.

01:39 - 07.041 WE'VE HAD BASE LOAD GENERATION

01:39 - 09.143 GO OFFLINE IN MARYLAND AND IN

01:39 - 10.978 NEW YORK AND IN NEW JERSEY,

01:39 - 13.113 WHICH PUTS FURTHER CONSTRAINTS

01:39 - 15.149 ON THE BASE LOAD GENERATION

01:39 - 17.117 HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA. AND WE'VE

01:39 - 17.952 HAD TO GO OFFLINE HERE AS WELL.

01:39 - 18.585 AND MY DISTRICT, THE BRUCE

01:39 - 21.455 MANSFIELD FOR VARIOUS REASONS,

01:39 - 22.589 OF COURSE, IN

01:39 - 25.392 HOMER CITY.

01:39 - 26.393 >>YOU MENTIONED THE LIGHTNING

01:39 - 29.496 PLAN. MY CONCERN WITH THAT PLAN

01:39 - 30.130 AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

01:39 - 30.864 THERE IS A SERIOUS CONVERSATION

01:39 - 31.532 GOING ON ABOUT THIS WITH THE

01:39 - 32.166 ADMINISTRATION AND WITH MY

01:39 - 34.668 COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE,

01:39 - 35.703 THE OW. BUT MY CONCERNED A

01:39 - 36.337 LIGHTNING PLAN IS I MEAN,

01:39 - 39.206 THERE'S A CARBON TAX WITHIN

01:39 - 39.840 THAT PLAN. YOUR EXPANDING

01:39 - 42.009 UNRELIABLE FOREIGN SOURCES OF

01:39 - 44.578 ENERGY SUBSIDIES WITHIN THAT

01:39 - 49.116 PLAN WITH RENEWABLES. WHEN ARE

01:39 - 50.217 WE GOING TO ATTRACT

01:39 - 53.387 PENNSYLVANIA ENERGY TO BUILD

01:39 - 53.988 POWER PLANTS HERE USING

01:39 - 55.022 PENNSYLVANIA ENERGY AND AND

01:39 - 59.093 HOW CAN IS THAT? SO WHAT I CAN

01:39 - 59.827 TELL YOU IS THERE ARE 2 NATURAL

01:39 - 01.362 GAS-FIRED POWER PLANTS IN THE

01:40 - 02.129 PJM QUEUE RIGHT NOW TO BE BUILT

01:40 - 03.630 THE PENNSYLVANIA. WE DO NOT

01:40 - 04.331 HAVE PERMITS IN HAND FOR THOSE

01:40 - 05.399 IN PENNSYLVANIA, BUT WE KNOW

01:40 - 06.066 THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE

01:40 - 06.333 JAM.

01:40 - 12.106 >>WHICH IS WHY THE GOVERNOR

01:40 - 12.706 HAS BEEN PUSHING PJM TO

01:40 - 13.340 ESSENTIALLY FIX THEIR CUE.

01:40 - 15.209 WE'RE SEEING PROJECTS THAT SIT

01:40 - 16.143 IN THE QUEUE FOR 5 YEARS.

01:40 - 17.911 THEY SCREWED UP THEIR CAPACITY

01:40 - 18.612 AUCTION FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

01:40 - 23.017 THAT'S WHAT SENSE. PRICE

01:40 - 23.951 SIGNALS TO BUILD.

01:40 - 24.952 SO THE GOVERNOR AND THE

01:40 - 25.786 GOVERNORS OF THE OTHERS, 12

01:40 - 28.789 STATES PLUS THE FEDERAL

01:40 - 29.723 GOVERNMENT RECENTLY PUT

01:40 - 30.991 TOGETHER THE STATEMENT OF

01:40 - 32.793 PRINCIPLES FOR THE REFORMS THAT

01:40 - 33.827 THEY WANT TO SEE IT PJM.

01:40 - 36.597 THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR BASE

01:40 - 37.297 LOAD GENERATION TO BE BUILT IN

01:40 - 40.034 PENNSYLVANIA. I APPRECIATE THAT

01:40 - 42.169 AS SECRETARY DOWN. IF I MAY

01:40 - 44.071 BRIEFLY. SO I COME FROM THE FOR

01:40 - 45.072 WASHINGTON COUNTY. THAT'S MY

01:40 - 46.940 DISTRICT RACCOON. STATE PARK IS

01:40 - 47.641 IN MY DISTRICT. WE HAD AN

01:40 - 48.175 INTERESTING ISSUE.

01:40 - 50.244 >>WITHIN THE STATE PARK WITH

01:40 - 52.179 FOR TRAFFICKING AND THE

01:40 - 53.881 TRAPPINGS. I HAD A CONSTITUENT

01:40 - 55.983 WHO IS WALKING THEIR DOG AND

01:40 - 58.085 THE DOG GOT CAUGHT IN A TRAP.

01:40 - 58.852 ACTUALLY. AND THE DOG WAS

01:40 - 59.753 WALKING ON A TRAIL WHERE 8 NEAR

01:40 - 02.022 A TRAIL AND I TALKED WITH YOUR

01:41 - 03.924 STAFF SOME TIME AGO ABOUT THIS.

01:41 - 05.526 AND I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON IT

01:41 - 06.226 TO SEE IS YOUR STAFF. AND FOR

01:41 - 08.395 ME THAT WE WERE WORKING THROUGH

01:41 - 11.331 A PROCESS TO CHANGE SOME

01:41 - 13.267 REGULATIONS AS IT RELATES TO

01:41 - 14.501 TRAPPING WITHIN STATE PARK'S

01:41 - 15.135 AND NEAR TRAILS. AND I WAS

01:41 - 16.603 WONDERING IF THAT WAS SOMETHING

01:41 - 18.338 THAT YOU DID MAKING IT. I DON'T

01:41 - 19.139 WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE CON

01:41 - 21.341 RES. YES. SO WE JUST IN

01:41 - 22.376 GENERAL, WE FOLLOW THE GAME

01:41 - 23.710 COMMISSION'S SEASON AND BAG

01:41 - 24.845 LIMITS ON GAME EXCEPT WE MAKE

01:41 - 29.116 MODIFICATIONS ON STATE PARKS.

01:41 - 31.852 >>WE'RE NEEDED AND THIS WAS A

01:41 - 32.586 CASE BASED ON AN CALLED IN THAT

01:41 - 34.354 WE'VE REQUIRED THEM TO HAVE

01:41 - 35.022 50 FEET ON EITHER SIDE OF A

01:41 - 35.722 TRAIL FOR LIKE 100 FOOT BUFFER

01:41 - 39.860 ZONE OF KNOW, TRAPPING NEAR

01:41 - 40.627 IT TRAILS TO PREVENT SOMETHING

01:41 - 44.765 LIKE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN. I GET A

01:41 - 45.799 COPY OF THAT REGULATION PLACE.

01:41 - 46.433 THANK YOU. IT'S A POLICY.

01:41 - 48.435 THE POLITICS WILL GET IT TO

01:41 - 49.103 YOU. THANKS FOR RAISING THE

01:41 - 49.770 ISSUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,

01:41 - 51.839 GENTLEMEN. REPRESENTATIVE

01:41 - 54.875 GUZMAN.

01:41 - 55.776 >>THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND

01:41 - 56.777 THANK YOU DCNR AND DP FOR YOUR

01:41 - 57.711 TIME THIS AFTERNOON. AND THANK

01:41 - 00.347 OF COURSE, FOR YOUR CONTINUED

01:42 - 01.415 WORK ON BEHALF OF ALL

01:42 - 02.549 PENNSYLVANIAN FAMILIES IN MY

01:42 - 03.851 DISTRICT IN READING, I HEAR A

01:42 - 04.585 LOT FROM WORKING FAMILIES ABOUT

01:42 - 08.956 THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY FACE,

01:42 - 09.823 WHETHER IT'S HAVING FRESH

01:42 - 10.524 WATER. WEATHER IS HAVING FRESH

01:42 - 12.759 AIR OR WHETHER IT'S KEEPING LED

01:42 - 14.795 OUT OF THE PIPES WITHIN THEIR

01:42 - 15.462 BUILDINGS. ONE OF THE THINGS

01:42 - 16.130 THAT HAVE POPPED UP OF WE'RE

01:42 - 19.399 CURRENTLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE

01:42 - 20.300 OF YEARS IS OUR COMMUNITIES

01:42 - 21.535 NEED TO GETTING ACCESS TO FRESH

01:42 - 23.570 WATER. AND ONE OF THE ONE OF

01:42 - 25.005 THOSE FRESH WATER ACCESS POINTS

01:42 - 25.672 IS THE SCHUYLKILL RIVER AND

01:42 - 28.709 SCHUYLKILL RIVER TRAIL TO BE TO

01:42 - 29.576 BE SPECIFIC. THE SCHUYLKILL

01:42 - 30.511 RIVER RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THE

01:42 - 33.380 CITY OF READING. IT'S LITERALLY

01:42 - 34.081 A PART OF OUR IDENTITY. AND SO

01:42 - 37.451 I'D LIKE TO ASK USE SECRETARY

01:42 - 38.185 DONE. WHAT'S THE PLAN CURRENTLY

01:42 - 40.654 TO COMPLETE THE TRAIL ON THE

01:42 - 41.388 SCHUYLKILL RIVER AND CONNECTING

01:42 - 43.824 THE READING FAMILIES TO THE

01:42 - 45.759 FULL TRAIL.

01:42 - 47.294 >>I'M GLAD HE ASKING THEIR

01:42 - 48.028 NECKS YOU WITH A CHAIR HARRIS'S

01:42 - 51.064 DISTRICT. IS HE ADVOCATES FOR

01:42 - 52.299 THE GRAYS FERRY AND

01:42 - 54.168 CONTINUATION SCHUYLKILL RIVER

01:42 - 54.868 FAIL? SO WE WORK CLOSELY WITH

01:42 - 57.104 THE SCHOOL HERITAGE AREA,

01:42 - 58.138 PHENOMENAL HERITAGE AREA

01:42 - 01.608 PARTNER. THEY'RE BOTH A STATE

01:43 - 03.677 AND A FEDERAL PARTNER AND THEY

01:43 - 04.778 HAVE LED THE WAY OF SECURING

01:43 - 07.981 CONTINUATION OF THE TRAIL.

01:43 - 08.949 SO THERE ARE FEW GAPS AND THE

01:43 - 09.616 TRAIL AND WE WORK WITH THEM

01:43 - 12.186 WHEN THEY MAY BRING A GAP TO

01:43 - 14.154 US.

01:43 - 16.190 WE ARE OFTEN THE FIRST FUNDER

01:43 - 18.125 TO SECURE CLOSING A GAP AND

01:43 - 20.827 THEN CONTINUATION AT THIS POINT

01:43 - 21.461 GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO ANY

01:43 - 22.162 BARTON'S DISTRICT. THAT IS THE

01:43 - 24.598 PIECE OF THAT THAT GOES AWAY

01:43 - 27.534 FROM ENDING UP.

01:43 - 29.503 POTTS TOWN AND BEYOND

01:43 - 30.737 HUNTSVILLE. TO POTTSTOWN

01:43 - 33.540 POTTSVILLE. THERE IS A GAP I'M

01:43 - 34.241 AWARE OF. THAT'S IN YOUR AREA.

01:43 - 38.579 THEN YOU RAISE AN SECOND

01:43 - 40.347 QUESTION. SO. GETTING THE

01:43 - 40.981 NEIGHBORHOODS DOWN TO THE

01:43 - 43.383 SCHUYLKILL AND AND THEN THE

01:43 - 44.084 CITY AREAS SOMETIME THIS

01:43 - 44.751 COMPLICATED BY ROADWAYS AND

01:43 - 48.689 BLOCKAGES AND ALSO JUST CHILLS,

01:43 - 49.690 ATION OF THE STREAM. AND WE'VE

01:43 - 50.390 ENCOUNTERED THAT PARTS OF THE

01:43 - 53.126 SCHUYLKILL AND PHILLY AREA.

01:43 - 54.294 BUT AGAIN, WORKING WITH

01:43 - 55.596 PARTNERS LIKE SCHUYLKILL RIVER

01:43 - 56.230 DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IN

01:43 - 58.298 SCHOOL, HERITAGE. IT'S A

01:43 - 00.334 PRIORITY FOR US. I DO THINK

01:44 - 01.768 AS THE CLIMATE BECOMES WARMER

01:44 - 02.436 AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE SEEK

01:44 - 04.938 OUT WATER AND WATER-BASED

01:44 - 06.640 RECREATION.

01:44 - 09.076 WE MAKE IT A PRIORITY TO FIND A

01:44 - 09.776 WAY TO GET COMMUNITIES DOWN TO

01:44 - 11.712 THE RIVER AND ACCESS TO THESE

01:44 - 14.581 GREAT ATTRIBUTE. SO YOU CAN

01:44 - 16.350 YOU CAN ASSUME WE'RE ALL IN

01:44 - 17.017 CLAIRE'S EURO RECREATION AND

01:44 - 17.718 CONSERVATION HAS THE COMMUNITY

01:44 - 20.153 CONSERVATION PARTNERSHIP

01:44 - 21.388 GRANTS.

01:44 - 22.256 I HAVE BURNED THROUGH MOST OF

01:44 - 23.257 THE TIME PROBABLY HERE. BUT I

01:44 - 25.292 DO WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS

01:44 - 26.293 ABOUT THE GRANTS PROGRAM AND

01:44 - 27.194 WE'RE OPEN. AND IF YOU CAN VERY

01:44 - 28.262 SHORTLY, IF YOU CAN, BECAUSE I

01:44 - 29.796 KNOW WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT

01:44 - 30.464 AMOUNT OF TIME TO JUST TALK

01:44 - 31.765 ABOUT HOW EXACTLY YOU'RE GOING

01:44 - 32.966 TO PRIORITIZE OR HELP US PART

01:44 - 33.934 HIGHS.

01:44 - 35.836 >>THOSE UNFINISHED PARTS IN THE

01:44 - 37.070 CITY OF REDDING. OKAY. THE

01:44 - 38.772 SCHUYLKILL RIVER HERITAGE AREA

01:44 - 39.840 USED TO BRING IT TO US DURING

01:44 - 42.976 OUR OPEN GRANT PERIOD AND WE

01:44 - 44.278 WILL CONSIDER THAT A HIGH

01:44 - 45.812 PRIORITY. AWESOME. SO SPEAKING

01:44 - 47.180 ABOUT GOING TO CONTINUE ON THE

01:44 - 47.881 SCHUYLKILL RIVER BECAUSE, OF

01:44 - 48.582 COURSE, AS YOU SAID, YOU KNOW,

01:44 - 50.484 FOLKS IN MY COMMUNITY, THEY

01:44 - 51.585 LOVE HAVING ACCESS TO THE RIVER

01:44 - 52.486 AND

01:44 - 54.521 >>EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE

01:44 - 55.289 IT, THEY LIKE TO GO TO THE

01:44 - 55.956 WOODS IN A LOCALLY ON THAT.

01:44 - 58.358 PART OF THE CITY ARE READING

01:44 - 59.092 THIS CALL PENSKE BEACH BECAUSE

01:44 - 59.660 OF OUR BECAUSE OF OUR

01:44 - 01.595 COMMUNITIES INSISTENT AND

01:45 - 04.564 WANTING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE

01:45 - 05.499 SCHUYLKILL RIVER AND THE

01:45 - 06.133 WATERWAYS. UNFORTUNATELY,

01:45 - 07.668 THOUGH, THAT PART THAT PORTION

01:45 - 10.103 OF THE SCHUYLKILL RIVER IN THE

01:45 - 10.737 CITY OF REDDING IS HIGHLY

01:45 - 13.106 CONTAMINATED DO FOR YEARS OF

01:45 - 13.840 A NEGLECT AND WHATNOT. AND SO

01:45 - 15.842 THIS QUESTION IS SPECIFICALLY

01:45 - 17.911 FOR DP AND I'D LOVE TO KNOW,

01:45 - 18.545 YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS THE

01:45 - 19.246 PEACE PLAN? OBVIOUSLY, I KNOW

01:45 - 21.615 YOU ALL ARE STRETCHED THIN

01:45 - 22.449 ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH, BUT I

01:45 - 24.384 LOVE TO KNOW WHAT IS YOUR PLAN?

01:45 - 25.085 BP'S PLAN TO HELP US HERE IN

01:45 - 25.752 THE CITY OF READING TO CLEAN

01:45 - 27.688 OUR WATERWAYS AND TO GIVE THE

01:45 - 30.724 FOLKS OF THE CITY OF READING

01:45 - 31.591 THE RIFLE, ACCESS TO CLEAN

01:45 - 32.459 WATER THAT THEY DESERVE YET.

01:45 - 33.160 THEY ABSOLUTELY DESERVE TO BE

01:45 - 36.029 ABLE TO RECREATE IN THE WATER

01:45 - 37.064 THAT RUNS THROUGH

01:45 - 37.464 THEIR CITY.

01:45 - 40.067 >>WE HAVE AREAS LIKE THIS ALL

01:45 - 41.168 OVER PENNSYLVANIA. I THINK 37%

01:45 - 42.169 OF OUR WATERWAYS ARE IMPAIRED

01:45 - 45.072 IN SOME WAYS, SOME BY ACID.

01:45 - 45.639 MINE DRAINAGE SOME BY.

01:45 - 49.509 >>STORM WATER RUNOFF, SOME BY,

01:45 - 52.579 YOU KNOW, SEWER OVERFLOWS

01:45 - 53.647 WE CAN. WE CAN TAKE A LOOK

01:45 - 55.315 SPECIFICALLY, BUT I WOULD SAY

01:45 - 56.016 YOUR BEST, YOUR BEST ASSET IS

01:45 - 57.784 GOING TO BE THE BERKS COUNTY

01:45 - 00.754 CONSERVATION DISTRICT. I'M

01:46 - 03.623 WORKING WITH THEM TO DEVISE A

01:46 - 04.925 PLAN TO ELIMINATE. YOU KNOW,

01:46 - 05.592 IF IT'S IF IT'S COMING FROM

01:46 - 08.995 RUNOFF OR IF IT'S COMING FROM

01:46 - 09.596 STORM WATER, WE HAVE TO

01:46 - 10.297 DETERMINE WHERE THAT IMPACT IS

01:46 - 13.166 COMING FROM AND THEN STOP IT AT

01:46 - 14.301 ITS SOURCE. IT COULD BE ANY

01:46 - 16.169 NUMBER OF THINGS I DON'T KNOW

01:46 - 17.237 OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHERE

01:46 - 19.172 IT'S COMING FROM. BUT IF IT'S,

01:46 - 19.806 YOU KNOW, IT'S COMING FROM

01:46 - 20.474 WASTEWATER. WE WOULD HAVE TO

01:46 - 21.975 ADDRESS IT WITH THE WASTEWATER

01:46 - 25.045 SYSTEM THAT'S COMING FROM STORM

01:46 - 26.179 WATER

01:46 - 26.880 WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT SOME SOME

01:46 - 27.581 SIGNIFICANT CONTROLS. AND AND

01:46 - 29.015 AND AS WE GO INTO THE WARMER

01:46 - 31.051 MONTHS, YOU KNOW, FOLKS WITHIN

01:46 - 31.752 MY COMMUNITY ARE JUMPING INTO

01:46 - 32.419 THIS POLLUTED WATER BECAUSE

01:46 - 35.622 THEY WANT ACCESS TO THESE CLEAN

01:46 - 36.123 WATERWAYS. AND SO

01:46 - 36.990 >>ANYTHING THAT EITHER DCNR

01:46 - 38.825 DEEP HE CAN DO TO HELP MY

01:46 - 40.994 COMMUNITY GET ACCESS TO FRESH

01:46 - 42.829 WATER, NOT JUST TO DRINK, BUT

01:46 - 44.231 ALSO TO SWIM AND RECREATE AND

01:46 - 45.999 WILL BE DEFINITELY BENEFICIAL

01:46 - 48.068 TO MY COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

01:46 - 49.136 IF YOU INVITE PLUS A TEAM OUT

01:46 - 49.836 THERE WITH YOU TO SEE IT, WE'D

01:46 - 52.839 BE HAPPY TO BE THERE. I LOVE TO

01:46 - 53.407 WORK IN COLLABORATION.

01:46 - 54.007 THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR.

01:46 - 56.476 THANK THE GENTLEMAN.

01:46 - 00.414 REPRESENTATIVE NELSON. THANK

01:47 - 01.948 YOU, MR. CHAIR. WELCOME TO BOTH

01:47 - 02.649 SECRETARIES. A QUICK SHOUT OUT

01:47 - 04.518 TO DCNR AND ALL THE GREAT WORK

01:47 - 05.152 YOU'RE DOING. I KNOW THAT

01:47 - 07.788 SECRETARY SHIRLEY IN THE PAST,

01:47 - 12.492 WE'VE HAD SOME.

01:47 - 13.160 HEATED EXCHANGES DURING THE

01:47 - 13.827 SURPRISE ADMISSION PROCESS.

01:47 - 16.763 AND I REALLY WANT TO START OUT

01:47 - 19.699 WITH A BIG THANK YOU TO THE

01:47 - 20.567 EFFORT AND THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS

01:47 - 23.570 THAT BP HAS BEEN ABLE TO WORK

01:47 - 24.237 WITH THE CD AND ACCELERATING

01:47 - 26.072 THOSE PERMITS, YOU KNOW,

01:47 - 29.843 HELPING TO SECURE WHAT TO A

01:47 - 30.544 10 BILLION DOLLAR NATURAL GAS

01:47 - 32.679 PORTION OF THAT POWER PLANT AND

01:47 - 34.514 TAKING A BLIGHTED COMMUNITY

01:47 - 36.516 THAT REALLY HAD A GUT PUNCH AND

01:47 - 37.918 AND INFUSING MILLIONS OF MAN

01:47 - 40.287 HOURS OF WORK. YOU KNOW, SO I

01:47 - 45.358 WANT TO THANK YOU KNOW, YOUR

01:47 - 48.462 DEPARTMENT FOR THAT. AND I DO

01:47 - 49.529 AGREE, YOU KNOW,

01:47 - 52.466 HIGHER STANDARDS THROUGH IT.

01:47 - 53.099 SO YOU KNOW, EQUAL AND CAN

01:47 - 53.800 BRING ACCELERATED PERMITTING.

01:47 - 54.501 I THINK THERE'S THERE'S REALLY

01:47 - 57.771 A BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE WE

01:47 - 00.340 CAN BUILD ON THERE ARE YOUR

01:48 - 02.476 PLANS TO CONTINUE THAT SUSTAIN

01:48 - 04.144 SUCCESS FOR SOME OF THE OTHER

01:48 - 04.744 DATA CENTERS AND IN SOME

01:48 - 06.480 LOCATIONS MAY BE IN THE EAST,

01:48 - 07.180 CARRY A LOT MORE CONTROVERSY.

01:48 - 10.183 BUT YOU MENTIONED ABANDONED

01:48 - 11.251 POWER PLANT LOCATIONS, AREAS

01:48 - 12.085 WHERE COMMUNITIES ARE REALLY

01:48 - 15.188 WANTING IT. CAN WE CAN WE KEEP

01:48 - 17.157 THAT MOMENTUM UP FOR MORE

01:48 - 19.059 PROJECTS? ABSOLUTELY. I THINK

01:48 - 19.659 SOME LOCATIONS ARE VERY

01:48 - 20.427 OBVIOUSLY BETTER SUITED THAN

01:48 - 24.498 OTHERS. AND IT MAKES IT A LOT

01:48 - 25.198 EASIER TO.

01:48 - 25.832 >>DEVELOP THOSE SITES, FOR

01:48 - 29.236 INSTANCE, A FORMER COAL-FIRED

01:48 - 30.103 POWER PLANT ALREADY HAS THE

01:48 - 31.905 TRANSMISSION LINES NECESSARY TO

01:48 - 32.606 BE ABLE TO BRING POWER TO THE

01:48 - 35.675 SITE. SO IT MAKES IT A LOT

01:48 - 36.743 EASIER TO

01:48 - 38.678 CONSTRUCT THERE. WE HAVE, YOU

01:48 - 40.580 KNOW, A LOT OF ABANDONED MINE

01:48 - 41.481 LANDS ACROSS PENNSYLVANIA

01:48 - 42.682 WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD

01:48 - 43.884 SCITUATE SOME OF THESE THESE

01:48 - 44.584 THINGS. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE

01:48 - 45.452 THINGS THAT I THINK IT'S GOING

01:48 - 49.589 TO BE ON OUR LIST OF THOSE

01:48 - 50.690 ENHANCED ENVIRONMENTAL

01:48 - 52.492 TARGETS, THAT IF YOU ARE

01:48 - 54.861 REDEVELOPING A BROWNFIELD OR,

01:48 - 55.529 YOU KNOW, ANOTHER AREA THAT

01:48 - 58.732 WOULD, YOU KNOW, BRING YOU UP

01:48 - 02.469 TO THAT STANDARD OF HAVING THAT

01:49 - 05.105 EXPEDITE ENSURING AND I DO.

01:49 - 05.739 I DO SHARE SOME CONCERNS,

01:49 - 06.406 THOUGH, WITH THE GOVERNOR'S

01:49 - 08.875 GRID PROGRAM. YOU HAD MENTIONED

01:49 - 09.242 THE GRID.

01:49 - 09.843 >>EARLIER THAT WITH THE

01:49 - 11.044 PREVIOUS QUESTIONS STRUGGLES

01:49 - 13.380 THAT THE GREEN IS HAVING AND,

01:49 - 17.250 YOU KNOW, KIND OF THAT, WHAT I

01:49 - 17.951 WOULD REFER TO AS THE THE ROAD

01:49 - 18.652 TO HAITI'S IS PAVED WITH GOOD

01:49 - 21.521 INTENTIONS. YOU KNOW, SOME OF

01:49 - 24.291 WHAT WE SAW DURING REGGIE, YOU

01:49 - 25.292 KNOW, PENNSYLVANIA HAD 5 POWER

01:49 - 27.027 PLANTS ACCELERATE JEAN CLOSURE,

01:49 - 27.627 THOSE COAL PLANTS ABOUT

01:49 - 31.898 3 MILLION HOMES, POWER FOR

01:49 - 33.333 3 MILLION HOMES WAS LOST

01:49 - 37.070 WE CREATED NOTHER POLICY WITH

01:49 - 40.707 HIGHER STANDARDS. THOSE DATA

01:49 - 41.408 CENTERS COULD JUST, YOU KNOW,

01:49 - 42.309 THEY COULD JUST INVEST IN IN

01:49 - 44.878 MARYLAND OR IN OTHER STATES

01:49 - 48.515 AND, YOU KNOW, SUCK UP THE

01:49 - 50.650 POWER LIKE HOW, ARWA, HOW IS

01:49 - 51.217 THE DP WORKING TO HOLD

01:49 - 52.986 ACCOUNTABLE OUR NEIGHBORING

01:49 - 55.488 STATES YOU HAD MENTIONED

01:49 - 56.089 EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE

01:49 - 57.891 EXPORTING 59%. WE HAD A 59%

01:49 - 00.961 INCREASE IN EXPORTS. SO WE LOOK

01:50 - 01.928 AT MARYLAND AND THEIR POLICIES

01:50 - 05.398 AND PLANT CLOSURES IN NEW

01:50 - 06.633 JERSEY. MARYLAND'S TAKING 40%

01:50 - 10.937 OF THEIR POWER FROM US. NEW

01:50 - 14.441 JERSEY'S 30 35 LIKE SO.

01:50 - 15.108 PICKER TARGET ADDITIONAL

01:50 - 15.809 STANDARDS ON OUR DATA CENTERS

01:50 - 19.479 WHEN WE'RE ALREADY WINNING.

01:50 - 21.081 WHY NOT? LET'S LOOK AT, YOU

01:50 - 23.583 KNOW, TARGETING SOME OF OUR

01:50 - 26.686 NEIGHBORING STATES THAT ARE

01:50 - 28.755 REALLY THE PRIME, A MUCH LARGER

01:50 - 29.756 CAUSE OF INCREASED PRICES

01:50 - 31.591 BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST SECOND ALL

01:50 - 33.693 OUR POWER. YEAH, I DON'T THINK

01:50 - 35.595 IT'S A TARGETING OF DATA

01:50 - 36.963 CENTERS AS IT'S SO MUCH OF

01:50 - 37.664 MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT

01:50 - 41.334 UNDULY IMPACTING THE PEOPLE

01:50 - 42.202 THAT LIVE HERE.

01:50 - 43.236 >>THROUGH INCREASED RATE.

01:50 - 43.903 SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS

01:50 - 47.407 THAT THE DISSENTERS INCREASE

01:50 - 49.776 THE RATES OF OF PENNSYLVANIA.

01:50 - 51.711 CONSUMERS, NOT JUST ON THE

01:50 - 52.379 BASIC SUPPLY AND DEMAND, BUT

01:50 - 54.214 ANY TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE RATE

01:50 - 56.483 NOW TRANSMISSION INFRASTRUCTURE

01:50 - 58.184 TYPICALLY GET SPREAD ACROSS

01:50 - 01.321 RATE PAIRS SO THEY NEED BIG

01:51 - 02.322 TRANSMISSION LINES RUN TO THEIR

01:51 - 03.423 FACILITY THAT'S GETTING SPREAD

01:51 - 05.225 ACROSS ALL OF THE GREAT PLAYERS

01:51 - 06.192 IN THAT. AND I THINK THERE'S

01:51 - 07.961 SOME BIG TRANSMISSION LINES

01:51 - 08.728 BEING EXPANDED INTO MARYLAND AS

01:51 - 12.699 WELL THAT ARE CAUSING SOME

01:51 - 13.400 EMINENT DOMAIN ISSUES AND I

01:51 - 14.000 JUST WANT TO SHIFT GEARS

01:51 - 14.934 BECAUSE I KNOW MY TIME IS IS

01:51 - 16.236 LIMITED A LITTLE BIT OVER ON

01:51 - 19.172 THE CONCERNS.

01:51 - 21.141 >>THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE

01:51 - 24.911 WE SCOLD INDUSTRY ABOUT HB 5 TO

01:51 - 26.646 ONE. THE PRESS PLAN AND THAT,

01:51 - 27.414 YOU KNOW, THE COLD PRODUCERS

01:51 - 31.451 ARE VERY CONCERNED THAT HERE

01:51 - 32.852 TO CHANGES COULD REALLY

01:51 - 35.955 NEGATIVE EFFECT WASTE COAL

01:51 - 38.625 GENERATION.

01:51 - 39.492 CAN YOU TOUCH ON THAT? STARTING

01:51 - 42.195 TO GET SOME GOOD MOMENTUM?

01:51 - 43.063 WE CLOSE THE BORDERS. THEY'RE

01:51 - 46.199 EATING UP WASTE COAL. BUT THIS

01:51 - 47.233 MIGHT BRING A HALT TO IT.

01:51 - 49.235 >>SO I THINK I THINK THAT'S A

01:51 - 50.270 CONVERSATION WE NEED TO LIKE.

01:51 - 51.204 TAKE A REALLY HARD LOOK AT

01:51 - 54.240 BECAUSE I THINK THE NUMBER'S

01:51 - 57.877 ACTUALLY TELL A DIFFERENT

01:51 - 00.046 STORY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT APS.

01:52 - 04.284 >>ALONE.

01:52 - 07.153 >>SINCE 2021, THE SOLAR CREDITS

01:52 - 11.891 HAVE DECREASED BY 30%. BUT THE

01:52 - 14.661 TIER 2 MOSTLY WASTE COAL

01:52 - 15.762 CREDITS HAVE INCREASED BY 476%

01:52 - 19.766 AND THEN THEY'RE PROJECTED TO

01:52 - 22.802 JUMP EVEN HIGHER THIS YEAR AND

01:52 - 24.204 NEXT YEAR. SO THE AMOUNT OF

01:52 - 27.340 APS CREDITS THAT ARE FLOWING

01:52 - 28.908 INTO A SCHOOL RIGHT NOW

01:52 - 32.212 ARE SIGNIFICANT. PLUS, THE TAX

01:52 - 33.046 CREDITS THAT THEY RECEIVE.

01:52 - 36.149 I'M I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A HARD

01:52 - 37.317 LOOK AT

01:52 - 39.152 THEIR MATH, BUT WE'RE WE'RE

01:52 - 40.320 SEEING DIFFERENT DATA AND THE

01:52 - 41.221 NUMBERS THAT I GAVE YOU CAME

01:52 - 41.921 ACTUALLY FROM THE INDEPENDENT

01:52 - 44.157 FISCAL OFFICE. THEY PUT OUT A

01:52 - 47.160 REPORT ABOUT 2 WEEKS AGO THAT

01:52 - 48.027 REFERENCE THIS.

01:52 - 49.062 >>SURE IT BE GREAT TO HAVE THAT

01:52 - 49.863 CONVERSATION. THANK YOU VERY

01:52 - 51.097 MUCH, MR. CHAIR. THANK THE

01:52 - 54.167 GENTLEMAN. REPRESENTATIVE

01:52 - 56.202 FLEMING

01:52 - 56.836 >>THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN,

01:52 - 59.439 WELCOME SECRETARIES. IT'S GREAT

01:52 - 03.243 TO SEE YOU I ACTUALLY HAVE A.

01:53 - 06.346 I'M GOING TO LEAVE STORM WATER

01:53 - 08.615 ALONE

01:53 - 09.682 THIS YEAR. MADAM SECRETARY.

01:53 - 13.987 SO AND I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON

01:53 - 16.890 DCNR AND REALLY WANT TO SAY

01:53 - 18.691 KUDOS OUR COMMUNITY. YEAH, MY

01:53 - 22.295 DISTRICT, WE'VE BEEN THE

01:53 - 23.329 RECIPIENTS OF OF GRANTS FOR

01:53 - 26.266 RECREATION IN IN. I BELIEVE

01:53 - 27.267 ALL OF PEMBROKE, LOWER PAXTON

01:53 - 28.168 AND SUSQUEHANNA TOWNSHIP.

01:53 - 29.235 AND WE DO THANK YOU FOR THOSE.

01:53 - 34.340 BUT I DID WANT TO TALK TO OR

01:53 - 35.475 ASK YOU TODAY ABOUT MAYBE OUR

01:53 - 36.209 ABILITY AND WHAT THE DEPARTMENT

01:53 - 41.581 WOULD DO IF WE WERE ABLE TO

01:53 - 42.649 INVEST MORE AND UP TO $250,000

01:53 - 44.050 CAP ON RECREATION GRANTS.

01:53 - 44.784 HOW MANY MORE PROJECTS COULD

01:53 - 50.723 YOU DO? I'M SURE THE DEMAND

01:53 - 53.326 RIGHT NOW FAR OUTWEIGHS, YOU

01:53 - 54.027 KNOW, DCNR IS ABILITY TO FUND

01:53 - 57.163 PROJECTS. SO IF WE WERE TO BE

01:53 - 57.931 ABLE TO DO THAT AND INVEST

01:53 - 01.201 MORE, WHAT WHAT WITH DCNR DO

01:54 - 01.835 WITH IT AND HOW COULD YOU

01:54 - 02.435 ENHANCE COMMUNITIES EVEN

01:54 - 04.170 FURTHER? RIGHT. AND SO I THANK

01:54 - 05.171 YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP THAT

01:54 - 06.072 WE'VE SEEN TREMENDOUS UPTAKE OF

01:54 - 08.408 THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES

01:54 - 09.142 HERE IN HARRISBURG WITH OUR

01:54 - 10.143 AGGRESSIVE PROGRAM OF CLAIRE'S

01:54 - 11.244 CHANCE TO TALK. SHE HAS HAD A

01:54 - 11.945 CHANCE TO TALK TO US. HE SAID

01:54 - 12.612 ON TUESDAY ASKING ABOUT THE

01:54 - 17.517 GRANTS PROGRAM UNDER BUREAU.

01:54 - 18.418 >>YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT

01:54 - 19.118 QUESTION. AND WE WOULD

01:54 - 19.752 CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE SOME

01:54 - 22.322 ADDITIONAL FUNDING BECAUSE AS

01:54 - 28.394 YOU NOTED,

01:54 - 29.028 EVERY YEAR, THE DEMAND FOR

01:54 - 30.196 GRANTS OUTSTRIPS WEEK. WHAT WE

01:54 - 32.232 CAN FUND WE TYPICALLY CAN FUND

01:54 - 37.503 ANYWHERE FROM 60 TO 70% OF THE

01:54 - 40.340 DEMAND. AND AS COSTCO UP THAT

01:54 - 43.543 $250,000 CAP. WE HAVE CAPS ON

01:54 - 46.346 ON MANY OF OUR PROGRAMS THAT

01:54 - 51.184 MEANS THAT IT'S THOSE DOLLARS

01:54 - 53.987 DON'T GO AS FAR SO.

01:54 - 55.054 WHY WE WOULD DO IF WE WERE ABLE

01:54 - 59.325 TO DO THAT. IF WE WERE ABLE TO

01:54 - 02.462 HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING WE ARE

01:55 - 06.199 CURRENTLY AN.

01:55 - 09.402 IN THE MIDDLE

01:55 - 11.437 OF THE WORK WITH AND THE EURO

01:55 - 13.473 RECREATION AND CONSERVATION,

01:55 - 17.477 TOO, TO LOOK AT WHERE OUR

01:55 - 18.578 GRANTS ARE GOING. WHO'S

01:55 - 20.580 SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING GRANTS.

01:55 - 21.381 HE'S NOT SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING

01:55 - 23.416 GRANTS WHERE THE GAPS ARE.

01:55 - 24.250 WHO'S APPLYING, WHO'S NOT

01:55 - 25.285 APPLY.

01:55 - 28.187 >>WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO

01:55 - 29.956 EXTEND OUR REACH INTO

01:55 - 32.058 COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE NOT

01:55 - 33.927 ENGAGED WITH HISTORICALLY.

01:55 - 35.962 SO THAT'S ONE AREA OF

01:55 - 36.663 EXPANSION. AND THEN CERTAINLY

01:55 - 37.730 RAISING THE CAP. SO THE

01:55 - 38.431 COMMUNITIES THAT DO GET AWARDS

01:55 - 42.635 CAN PUSH THOSE DOLLARS FURTHER.

01:55 - 44.370 >>AND I I THINK PART OF WHAT

01:55 - 45.505 EXACERBATES THIS IS PURE

01:55 - 48.341 SPECULATION, BUT I THINK

01:55 - 49.342 BECAUSE IT IS A MATCH PROGRAM.

01:55 - 51.177 YES, YOU KNOW, IT DOES RELY

01:55 - 54.280 ON A LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES

01:55 - 56.549 ABILITY TO INVEST AS

01:55 - 57.183 WELL. SO AND AGAIN, IN MY

01:55 - 57.850 DISTRICT, WE HAVE MADE THAT

01:55 - 01.254 INVESTMENT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY

01:56 - 01.921 IMPORTANT TO OUR OUR

01:56 - 02.622 CONSTITUENTS THAT RECREATION

01:56 - 06.592 BE AVAILABLE. SO THANK YOU VERY

01:56 - 09.662 MUCH FOR THAT.

01:56 - 10.330 >>YEAH, AND ON ON THE MATCH

01:56 - 10.964 FRIEND, WE RECOGNIZE THAT

01:56 - 11.864 THAT'S A CHALLENGE FOR MANY

01:56 - 15.435 LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AND THAT'S

01:56 - 17.603 A BARRIER FOR ENTRY FOR FOR

01:56 - 19.872 ESPECIALLY OUR SMALLER OR LESS

01:56 - 27.413 WEALTHY MUNICIPALITIES

01:56 - 28.247 >>YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT MATCH

01:56 - 32.251 REQUIREMENT IS WRITTEN INTO THE

01:56 - 34.687 LEGISLATION. SO SO SO SO

01:56 - 35.355 ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM NEW

01:56 - 36.022 SOURCES THAT COULD LOWER THE

01:56 - 39.325 MATCH REQUIREMENT WOULD WOULD

01:56 - 41.160 CERTAINLY HELP HELP OUR DOLLARS

01:56 - 43.930 GO FURTHER AND HELP US REACH

01:56 - 44.864 MORE AND MORE COMMUNITIES.

01:56 - 46.899 >>I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE

01:56 - 47.934 RISING COSTS, TOO, BECAUSE EVEN

01:56 - 48.568 WE'VE, YOU KNOW, OUR LOCAL

01:56 - 52.505 RECREATION DIRECTORS HAVE HAD

01:56 - 54.841 TO SORT OF, YOU KNOW,

01:56 - 56.676 SCALE BACK OR OR RE IMAGINE

01:56 - 57.343 PROJECTS THAT WE DID HAVE AN

01:56 - 59.879 ALLOCATION FOR JUST BECAUSE OF

01:56 - 00.580 THE RISING COSTS OF. BUT YEAH,

01:57 - 01.214 AERIALS AND PRODUCTION AND

01:57 - 05.918 THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW.

01:57 - 08.755 JUST SOMETHING SECRETARY NOW

01:57 - 09.756 DECIDE THE GRAND ROUNDS OPEN

01:57 - 12.792 NOW.

01:57 - 13.426 >>YEAH. CLOSES APRIL YEAH.

01:57 - 14.160 FOR SURE. COMMUNITIES. EVERYONE

01:57 - 16.496 TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE 2 PETER

01:57 - 19.632 GRESTE PROGRAM AND APPLY.

01:57 - 20.199 >>AND AND ARE ARE YOU?

01:57 - 22.068 >>THEIR STAFF PROVIDES

01:57 - 24.137 TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AS WELL.

01:57 - 26.005 SO IF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE

01:57 - 27.240 APPLIED AND THIS IS A HELPING

01:57 - 29.876 HAND, WE ARE STAFF ARE GREAT.

01:57 - 32.045 IT REALLY HELPING THEM GET OFF.

01:57 - 33.846 >>YEAH, I JUST AGAIN, I JUST

01:57 - 34.480 WANT TO CONCLUDE BY REALLY

01:57 - 35.848 APPRECIATE THE CNRS COMMITMENT

01:57 - 36.416 TO ACTIVE AND PASSIVE

01:57 - 36.983 RECREATION ACROSS THE

01:57 - 37.683 COMMONWEALTH. SO THANK YOU SO

01:57 - 41.020 MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

01:57 - 44.257 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. CHAIRMAN

01:57 - 47.093 OF THE TALENT.

01:57 - 47.794 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL

01:57 - 53.466 DIRECT MY MARKED A MARCH TO THE

01:57 - 54.167 D E P FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU

01:57 - 57.236 SO KAY, SHIRLEY, FOR THE GREAT

01:57 - 58.137 JOB. YOU DO VERY GRATEFUL TO

01:57 - 04.844 THE DEDICATED STAFF OF THE D

01:58 - 05.511 E P AND NOTHING I SAY TODAY

01:58 - 06.179 SHOULD BE INTERPRETED AS AS

01:58 - 10.950 DENIGRATING THEIR FINE WORK.

01:58 - 11.784 ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS AND

01:58 - 14.620 REGULATIONS ARE MEANINGLESS

01:58 - 15.822 UNLESS THEY ARE ENFORCED AND

01:58 - 16.756 UNFORTUNATELY, THE DEPARTMENT

01:58 - 19.392 OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION

01:58 - 22.662 DOES NOT HAVE THE STAFF TO DO

01:58 - 28.301 ITS JOB. WELL, RIGHT NOW.

01:58 - 30.403 YOUR STAFF RIGHT NOW IS 327

01:58 - 32.438 PEOPLE LESS THAN IT WAS IN

01:58 - 33.272 2002. AND SINCE THAT TIME, YOUR

01:58 - 34.907 WORKLOAD HAS INCREASED WITH

01:58 - 37.043 THE ADVENT OF REGULATING THE

01:58 - 40.780 OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY. THE

01:58 - 41.347 EMERGENCE OF PFAS MORE

01:58 - 42.048 COMPLICATED FIGURE OF FEDERAL

01:58 - 44.984 REGULATIONS WITH REGARD TO THE

01:58 - 46.853 AIR AND SO FORTH. YOU SIMPLY

01:58 - 47.553 DON'T HAVE TO THE BOOTS ON THE

01:58 - 50.556 GROUND TO DO THE JOB AS WELL

01:58 - 51.624 AS IT SHOULD BE DONE WITH

01:58 - 52.425 REGARD TO THE OIL AND GAS

01:58 - 56.729 PROGRAM, YOU'RE DOWN TO ABOUT

01:58 - 00.233 178 POSITIONS BACK IN 2015, YOU

01:59 - 01.868 ARE AT

01:59 - 02.969 226 POSITION POSITIONS

01:59 - 03.603 RECENTLY. SECRETARY FORMER

01:59 - 06.105 SECRETARY COULD QUICKLY SAID

01:59 - 08.374 YOU SHOULD HAVE MORE THAN 300

01:59 - 11.711 POSITIONS IN THIS PROGRAM.

01:59 - 12.411 AND NOT SURPRISINGLY GAS WELLS

01:59 - 15.681 ARE ROUTINELY BEING ADVANCED

01:59 - 18.851 AND ABANDONED. THAT THAT IS

01:59 - 19.819 NOT BEING REPORTED

01:59 - 22.989 AS REQUIRED BY CONVENTIONAL

01:59 - 24.924 DRILLERS. AND BRIAN IS BEING

01:59 - 28.561 ILLEGALLY SPREAD ON ON GRAVEL

01:59 - 29.262 ROADS WITH REGARD TO THE WATER

01:59 - 31.998 PROGRAM. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU

01:59 - 34.200 ONLY HAVE TO STAFFING TO TO

01:59 - 35.535 INSPECT STREAMS ONCE EVERY 30

01:59 - 37.770 YEARS. YOUR STAFF TOLD ME THAT

01:59 - 38.871 YOU NEED AT LEAST 12 MORE

01:59 - 40.273 PEOPLE TO GET THAT DOWN TO

01:59 - 44.010 EVERY 10 YEARS AS IT SHOULD BE.

01:59 - 45.611 AS YOU

01:59 - 46.279 PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, 37% OF

01:59 - 49.282 PENNSYLVANIA'S STREAM MILES

01:59 - 50.049 ARE IMPAIRED IN SOME WAY.

01:59 - 52.552 WITH REGARD TO RARE PROGRAM YOU

01:59 - 56.556 ARE DOWN 86 POSITIONS SINCE

01:59 - 57.490 2005 AND ACCORDING TO YOUR AIR

01:59 - 00.193 PERSONNEL, YOUR WORKLOAD HAS

02:00 - 03.262 INCREASED FROM 30 TO 50% IN THE

02:00 - 04.897 LAST

02:00 - 05.598 2 DECADES. THIS IS EVIDENCE BY

02:00 - 08.067 DECLINE IN AIR MONITORS AND

02:00 - 09.502 SO FORTH.

02:00 - 14.607 SKIM HASTA, YOUR STAFF HAS

02:00 - 15.474 INDICATED YOU ARE

02:00 - 18.811 13 POSITIONS BELOW YOUR YOUR

02:00 - 19.512 INTENDED CAPACITY. YOUR STAFF

02:00 - 22.648 HAS INDICATE THEY DO NOT HAVE

02:00 - 24.951 AN ESTIMATE OF THE NUMBER OF

02:00 - 26.652 HAZARDOUS SITES IN

02:00 - 29.722 PENNSYLVANIA. AND THERE ARE

02:00 - 31.324 THERE ARE 21 FIX FIRE TRAINING

02:00 - 33.392 FACILITIES SUSPECTED OF PFAS

02:00 - 36.229 WHICH HAS NOT INVESTIGATED.

02:00 - 37.196 SO SO SO MY REAL QUESTION IS,

02:00 - 40.299 WELL, I WILL SAY THIS. THE

02:00 - 42.435 GOVERNOR.

02:00 - 46.439 THAT'S REALLY PLACE. GREAT

02:00 - 48.507 IMPORTANCE ON PERMIT TURNAROUND

02:00 - 51.844 TIME. BUT I JUST DON'T SEE THAT

02:00 - 54.013 SAME URGENCY AS FAR AS

02:00 - 55.448 PERSONNEL TO ENFORCE

02:00 - 58.918 ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS. SO MY REAL

02:00 - 59.585 QUESTION TO YOU IS. WHAT CAN

02:00 - 04.790 YOU DO TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC?

02:01 - 07.760 AS TO THE NEEDS OF THE

02:01 - 08.427 DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL

02:01 - 08.995 PROTECTION, ENFORCING

02:01 - 12.331 ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS. AND WHAT

02:01 - 14.667 CAN YOU DO TO TO TO EMPHASIZE

02:01 - 15.368 TO THE GOVERNOR, THE STATE ARE

02:01 - 17.336 DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL

02:01 - 19.739 PROTECTION IS IN.

02:01 - 22.708 >>THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

02:01 - 23.576 I JUST WANT TO SAY SINCE THE

02:01 - 26.646 BEGINNING OF THE SHAPIRO

02:01 - 27.647 ADMINISTRATION,

02:01 - 30.449 THE DEPARTMENT AND HAS RECEIVED

02:01 - 34.387 AN ADDITIONAL 369 POSITIONS.

02:01 - 34.987 SO IS THAT 3 YEARS, 369

02:01 - 38.491 POSITIONS THAT'S OVER 10%

02:01 - 39.191 INCREASE IN 3 YEARS. SO WE ARE

02:01 - 41.494 INCREASING OUR COMPLIMENT WHERE

02:01 - 46.565 WHERE WE SEE NECESSARY TO DO SO

02:01 - 47.667 SINCE 2002, WE'VE ALSO HAD

02:01 - 48.301 SIGNIFICANT TECHNOLOGICAL

02:01 - 48.968 UPGRADES THAT HAVE MADE US A

02:01 - 50.136 LOT MORE EFFICIENT. WE'VE

02:01 - 54.307 GOTTEN A LOT BETTER AND ARE

02:01 - 56.242 TESTING CAPABILITIES. AND AND,

02:01 - 56.876 YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING OUR

02:01 - 00.146 STREAM OUR STREAM TESTING

02:02 - 02.181 QUICKER AND BETTER AND WE HAVE

02:02 - 02.915 MORE AQUATIC BIOLOGIST NOW THAN

02:02 - 07.386 WE HAVE IN THE HISTORY OF DP

02:02 - 09.355 DOING THAT WORK. SO WE DO HAVE

02:02 - 13.192 RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO DO THE

02:02 - 14.460 WORK. WE ALSO COMPLETED 117

02:02 - 18.030 INSPECTION 1000 INSPECTIONS.

02:02 - 19.999 LAST YEAR. WE DID ABOUT 40,000

02:02 - 21.767 PERMITS. WE DID ALMOST 3 TIMES

02:02 - 22.368 AS MANY INSPECTIONS HAS.

02:02 - 24.370 WE IT. SO WE DO HAVE BOOTS ON

02:02 - 27.306 THE GROUND. WE ARE OUT THERE

02:02 - 29.342 FINDING ISSUES, BUT OUR GOAL IS

02:02 - 31.344 COMPLIANCE. SO WE TRY TO BRING

02:02 - 31.911 THOSE SITES BACK INTO

02:02 - 35.047 COMPLIANCE AND MAKE SURE THAT

02:02 - 37.249 THOSE THOSE ISSUES

02:02 - 40.319 NEVER OCCUR. SO AS FAR AS

02:02 - 41.821 EDUCATION GOES, WE DO HAVE I

02:02 - 46.459 WOULD SAY A ROBUST EFFORT

02:02 - 47.593 UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.

02:02 - 48.928 >>THINKING ABOUT HOW WE

02:02 - 52.565 COMMUNICATE, HOW WE EDUCATE THE

02:02 - 53.566 PUBLIC BECAUSE A LOT

02:02 - 55.568 OF FOLKS THEY REALLY DO TAKE

02:02 - 56.202 IT FOR GRANTED. THEY DON'T

02:02 - 56.869 UNDERSTAND WHERE THEIR WATER

02:02 - 57.436 COMES FROM. THEY DON'T

02:02 - 01.006 UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF

02:03 - 03.943 SURFACE WATER. THEY DON'T

02:03 - 05.711 UNDERSTAND ELECTRICITY UNTIL

02:03 - 08.080 THEY GET A BILL. AND I THINK

02:03 - 09.648 THAT WE RECENTLY ESTABLISHED

02:03 - 12.318 IN OFFICE OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS

02:03 - 15.254 TO WORK WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS

02:03 - 16.288 AND THEY OVERSEE OUR OFFICE OF

02:03 - 18.724 ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION TO HELP

02:03 - 19.425 GET THAT MESSAGE OUT TO FOLKS

02:03 - 20.126 ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE DO AND

02:03 - 25.831 AND WHAT ITS IMPORTANCE IS.

02:03 - 27.566 BUT THE METRIC TOUGH REFORMS

02:03 - 28.200 ARE JUST NOT THERE. YOU'RE

02:03 - 30.369 STREAMS ON PEANUTS AND

02:03 - 32.004 SUSPECTED PROUDLY SAY ENOUGH.

02:03 - 34.807 >>WELLS ARE BEING ABANDONED

02:03 - 38.377 ROUTINELY ACCORDING TO YEAR

02:03 - 39.145 ON REPORTS, HASKETT CAN

02:03 - 42.248 IDENTIFY CAN INVESTIGATE SITES.

02:03 - 43.115 THEY AND THEY KNOW THERE'S A

02:03 - 45.885 PROBLEM. THEY HAVE TOLD ME THEY

02:03 - 46.485 ARE DOWN 13 POSITIONS IN

02:03 - 49.522 HASAKAH AIR. PEOPLE HAVE TOLD

02:03 - 50.222 ME THEY ARE DOWN. THEY NEED TO

02:03 - 52.825 12 MORE PEOPLE TO DO THE

02:03 - 53.492 ADEQUATE TO INSPECTIONS, THE

02:03 - 55.761 OIL AND GAS PEOPLE TO SIMPLY

02:03 - 58.464 CAN'T ENFORCE LAWS. THE METRICS

02:03 - 01.500 OF PERFORMANCE. DESPITE THE

02:04 - 02.168 INCREASE IN TECHNOLOGY, THE

02:04 - 04.637 METRICS OF PERFORMANCE ARE

02:04 - 05.137 SIMPLY NOT THERE.

02:04 - 07.940 >>WE HAVE METRICS THAT SAY

02:04 - 14.480 DIFFERENTLY.

02:04 - 15.181 >>CHAIR THANKS, GENTLEMAN AND

02:04 - 17.983 RECOGNIZES REPRESENTATIVE

02:04 - 19.118 CHAIRMAN STRUZZI.

02:04 - 22.221 >>THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL

02:04 - 23.522 AGAIN FOR BEING HERE

02:04 - 24.390 THIS AFTERNOON. I WANT TO ECHO

02:04 - 26.158 MY COLLEAGUES COMMENTS EARLIER

02:04 - 26.826 ABOUT GRATITUDE FOR THE HELP

02:04 - 28.761 WITH THE HOMER CITY PROJECT

02:04 - 30.896 SECRETARY SHIRLEY AND YOUR

02:04 - 32.598 TEAM. BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE,

02:04 - 33.399 THOUGH, THAT JUST BECAUSE, YOU

02:04 - 35.901 KNOW, IT HAS BEEN FAST-TRACKED

02:04 - 38.070 DOESN'T MEAN ANY CORNERS WERE

02:04 - 38.938 CUT. AND YOU MENTIONED COMING

02:04 - 39.672 IN AT THE CEILING AND COMING IN

02:04 - 41.440 AT THE FLOOR. AND I BELIEVE THE

02:04 - 43.542 HOMER CITY REDEVELOPMENT, FOLKS

02:04 - 44.243 COME IN AT THE CEILING BECAUSE

02:04 - 47.079 THEY DEFINITELY CROSSED THEIR

02:04 - 48.113 T'S AND DOTTED THEIR I'S.

02:04 - 49.748 SO BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE HELP

02:04 - 50.483 AND SUPPORT FOR THAT BECAUSE IT

02:04 - 53.919 IS A PROJECT THAT WILL BENEFIT

02:04 - 54.653 NOT ONLY MY DISTRICT IN INDIANA

02:04 - 57.623 COUNTY, BUT THE ENTIRE WESTERN

02:04 - 58.657 PENNSYLVANIA REGION AND THIS

02:04 - 01.494 ENTIRE COMMONWEALTH AND THE

02:05 - 02.294 GRID ITSELF. SO THANK YOU.

02:05 - 02.862 A COUPLE OF FOLLOW-UP

02:05 - 05.197 QUESTIONS. BUT BEFORE I GET

02:05 - 08.000 TO THOSE CHAIRMAN WARNER HAD TO

02:05 - 09.034 LEAVE FOR ANOTHER MEETING.

02:05 - 10.469 HE HAS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS

02:05 - 14.473 PERTAINING TO THE A TV PROGRAM

02:05 - 16.408 FOR SECRETARY DON. I WILL GIVE

02:05 - 17.142 THESE TO YOU, BUT WE WOULD LIKE

02:05 - 17.843 A RESPONSE THEN IN WRITING AND

02:05 - 21.347 I HAD THIS TO WE'RE FINISHED.

02:05 - 24.450 SO I MY FIRST INITIAL

02:05 - 26.519 FOLLOW-UPS FOR

02:05 - 28.521 SECRETARY DON REP BARTON AND I

02:05 - 30.389 BELIEVE YOU CAN FROM YOUR

02:05 - 31.390 CURRENTLY MANAGING ABOUT 40

02:05 - 32.091 STREAM BED NON SURFACE IMPACT

02:05 - 34.627 NATURAL GAS LEASES THAT

02:05 - 36.562 CORRECT?

02:05 - 39.632 THESE LEASES IN WHICH THERE IS

02:05 - 41.467 NO IMPACT AT THE SURFACE OR

02:05 - 42.134 DISTURBANCE OF THE RESOURCE.

02:05 - 44.470 THESE EARLY SAYS THAT WHERE

02:05 - 45.371 THERE IS NO IMPACT AT THE

02:05 - 46.171 SURFACE OR DISTURBANCE OF THE

02:05 - 46.772 RESOURCE ABOVE. BUT THE

02:05 - 49.375 RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT IS ABLE TO

02:05 - 51.710 BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY WHILE

02:05 - 52.912 DRIVING REVENUES FOR THE

02:05 - 54.847 COMMONWEALTH RIGHT. AND THEN

02:05 - 56.649 LATER, REP THE ASKED ABOUT

02:05 - 57.316 REVISITING THE MORATORIUM TO

02:05 - 59.919 CONSIDER LEASES IN WHICH THE

02:05 - 00.653 SURFACE IS NOT IMPACTED AND THE

02:06 - 01.720 STATE CAN BENEFIT FROM THE

02:06 - 03.322 RENTAL REVENUE GENERATED FROM

02:06 - 04.056 THIS ACTIVITY THAT IS HAPPENING

02:06 - 08.060 IN THE VICINITY OF STATE LANDS.

02:06 - 08.694 ANYWAY, YOUR ANSWER, IF I

02:06 - 09.762 RECALL, YOU SAID WAS THAT YOU

02:06 - 10.563 FEEL THERE IS ENOUGH

02:06 - 13.899 DEVELOPMENT ON STATE LANDS

02:06 - 15.801 ALREADY? THAT'S CORRECT.

02:06 - 17.736 ARE THERE INSTANCES THAN IN

02:06 - 19.204 WHICH THE DEPARTMENT'S REFUSAL

02:06 - 21.206 TO ENTER INTO A NON SURFACE

02:06 - 23.409 IMPACT NATURAL GAS LEASE HAS

02:06 - 24.410 CAUSED IN NEIGHBORING WELL PAD

02:06 - 26.312 ON PRIVATE LANDS TO LEAVE

02:06 - 28.581 ORPHAN GAS UNDER STATE LANDS,

02:06 - 30.416 LOSING REVENUE FOR THE STATE

02:06 - 31.150 WHILE INCREASING THE LIKELIHOOD

02:06 - 33.686 OF THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL WELL

02:06 - 39.191 PADS LATER.

02:06 - 41.961 MICROPHONE. SECRETARY. I KNOW I

02:06 - 42.361 HAVE I NOT.

02:06 - 45.064 >>ERDOGAN INSTANCE WHERE THAT'S

02:06 - 46.665 HAPPENED YET.

02:06 - 47.766 >>IS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD

02:06 - 49.368 LOOK INTO AND GET BACK TO US

02:06 - 50.002 ON? BECAUSE FROM WHAT I'VE

02:06 - 53.539 HEARD, THERE ARE A LOT OF

02:06 - 54.173 OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE TO

02:06 - 58.143 ACCESS THESE WELLS OR OR USE

02:06 - 59.411 THE EXISTING PADS TO ACCESS THE

02:06 - 00.079 SITES TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL

02:07 - 03.515 REVENUE FOR THIS CALL. I'VE

02:07 - 04.450 EVEN HEARD FIGURES UP AND THE

02:07 - 08.621 RANGE OF 250 MILLION DOLLARS.

02:07 - 10.823 IF WE WERE TO ALLOW GREATER

02:07 - 12.124 ACCESS. AND AT A TIME WHEN

02:07 - 12.825 WE'RE LOOKING AT REVENUES, THE

02:07 - 14.693 GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED RAIN, THE

02:07 - 16.729 RAINY DAY FUND RATING ARE

02:07 - 17.363 SURPLUS TO TO BALANCE THE

02:07 - 19.498 REVENUE PROPOSAL. I THINK WE

02:07 - 20.399 SHOULD BE LOOKING AT EVERY

02:07 - 21.533 MECHANISM POSSIBLE TO INCREASE

02:07 - 23.435 STATE REVENUE. SO IF YOU COULD

02:07 - 24.637 GET BACK TO US ON THE ACTUAL

02:07 - 27.640 FIGURES, I THINK, YEAH, I THINK

02:07 - 28.374 I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR POINT WHEN

02:07 - 30.676 YOU FIRST AS IT. YEAH, WE WON.

02:07 - 31.343 ONE REASON THAT WE YOU LOOK

02:07 - 35.280 AT THE BLOCK OF FOREST LANDS

02:07 - 35.948 THAT WE HAVEN'T MATRIX OF

02:07 - 37.616 FOREST LAND, THAT THEY'RE IN,

02:07 - 40.185 THAT THAT'S A BALANCE OF

02:07 - 40.886 ACTIVITIES. AND THEN WHILE YOU

02:07 - 45.391 THINK ABOUT THE WELL HAD AS

02:07 - 46.091 BEING THE DISTURBANCE AREA AND

02:07 - 46.792 THE FACT THAT REALLY DISTURBS

02:07 - 51.397 THE CORPS FOR US FOR A MUCH

02:07 - 53.365 GREATER AREA. SO WE'RE BOUNCING

02:07 - 54.166 THE FOREST LAND FOR EVERYTHING

02:07 - 57.302 FROM RECREATION TO CLEAN AIR TO

02:07 - 59.405 CLIMATE RESILIENCY TO.

02:07 - 00.439 THAT'S WHAT GAS WE HAVE AND

02:08 - 03.308 RECREATION. WE BOUNCING ALL

02:08 - 04.009 THESE ARE SOME OF THE LAW AND

02:08 - 06.845 NATURAL GAS DEVELOPMENT ON A

02:08 - 08.847 FOREST LANDS RIGHT NOW.

02:08 - 09.915 >>SO THAT'S THIS IS THAT

02:08 - 11.517 HOUSING EQUATION AND TRYING TO

02:08 - 13.285 KEEP THE RESILIENCY OF FORCE

02:08 - 16.355 MATRIX INTACT BECAUSE EVERY ON

02:08 - 19.491 THE FORCE, THE GAS DEVELOPMENT

02:08 - 22.594 HAS LED TO.

02:08 - 23.629 I THINK I READ ABOUT 30,000

02:08 - 25.097 ACRES OF LOSS OF CORE FOREST

02:08 - 25.731 LAND. IT JUST CHANGES THE

02:08 - 27.900 NATURE OF THE FORESTS WHERE

02:08 - 31.704 YOU HAVE THE WATER SYSTEMS,

02:08 - 32.671 ET CETERA, AND THE WHOLE

02:08 - 33.639 SURROUNDING AREA. BUT, YEAH,

02:08 - 34.339 HAPPY TO GET THIS THAT BECAUSE

02:08 - 38.110 IT'S IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF

02:08 - 38.744 WE COULD ACCESS ADDITIONAL

02:08 - 41.146 RESOURCES WITHOUT HAVING TO

02:08 - 42.247 PUT IN NEW PADS.

02:08 - 44.149 >>IF IT WERE TO BE ALLOWED.

02:08 - 45.417 SO I WOULD LIKE THAT FOLLOW-UP.

02:08 - 47.453 I'M SURE THERE ARE INSTANCES

02:08 - 48.153 THAT THAT'S THE CASE. YES, OK?

02:08 - 50.723 AND THEN YOU HAVE THE THE OTHER

02:08 - 52.558 FACTORS. I MENTIONED.

02:08 - 53.258 AND THEN SECRETARY SHIRLEY,

02:08 - 55.294 VERY QUICKLY AS TO

02:08 - 57.362 REPRESENTATIVE COACHES,

02:08 - 58.330 QUESTIONS.

02:08 - 59.331 >>RELATED TO THE PERMIT

02:08 - 59.998 BACKLOG. CAN YOU TELL US HOW

02:08 - 02.601 MANY PERMITS ARE STILL

02:09 - 04.603 CURRENTLY BACKLOGGED?

02:09 - 07.740 >>THANKS. WE ACTUALLY CLEAR THE

02:09 - 08.841 BACKLOG. OKAY.

02:09 - 12.077 WHEN A SETBACK IN OCTOBER.

02:09 - 13.078 SO WE HAD ABOUT 2400 PERMITS

02:09 - 18.584 THAT WERE BASICALLY SITTING

02:09 - 19.318 ON A PILE. THAT WAS A RESULT OF

02:09 - 21.253 BEING INCOMPLETE UNDER THE

02:09 - 24.289 PERMIT DECISION GUARANTEE

02:09 - 26.692 POLICY. SO THAT WAS THE POLICY

02:09 - 28.794 THAT PREEMPTED THE PAYBACK

02:09 - 31.864 PROGRAM. SO IF A PERMIT CAME IN

02:09 - 33.065 THE DOOR, IF IT WAS COMPLETE IT

02:09 - 35.300 IT WAS AFFORDED A A TIMELINE.

02:09 - 37.169 IF IT WAS INCOMPLETE, BASICALLY

02:09 - 38.470 WAS KICKED OUT OF THE PERMIT

02:09 - 42.107 DECISION GUARANTEE. AND WE GOT

02:09 - 45.210 TO IT WHEN WE GOT TO IT.

02:09 - 46.044 WE ACTUALLY CHALLENGED OUR

02:09 - 46.678 STAFF TOO, ELIMINATE THAT

02:09 - 51.650 PERMIT. BACK ON 10% A MONTH.

02:09 - 53.619 KNOWING THAT THERE WERE SOME

02:09 - 55.320 INCREDIBLY CHALLENGING PERMITS

02:09 - 56.288 THAT WERE SITTING ON THAT

02:09 - 59.992 BACKLOG. IT TOOK US A LITTLE

02:09 - 00.626 LONGER THAN WE WOULD HAVE

02:10 - 03.362 LIKED. BUT WE CONTINUED TO PUSH

02:10 - 04.029 AND KEEP OUR FOOT ON THE GAS

02:10 - 09.034 TO ELIMINATE WHETHER IT MEANT.

02:10 - 10.936 DENYING PERMITS OR WORKING WITH

02:10 - 11.603 THE APPLICANTS TO MAKE SURE

02:10 - 12.171 THAT WE'RE GETTING THE

02:10 - 14.606 APPROPRIATE INFORMATION THAT WE

02:10 - 16.475 WERE WAITING FOR. WE WERE ABLE

02:10 - 17.476 TO CLEAR THAT BACKLOG THIS

02:10 - 19.578 YEAR. SO THERE THERE'S NO

02:10 - 21.847 BACKLOG OF ANY KIND FOR ANY

02:10 - 22.514 TEARS. NOT THERE'S A QUEUE,

02:10 - 26.018 RIGHT. PERMIT COMES IN AND IT

02:10 - 27.920 IT WAITS IN LINE. AND, YOU

02:10 - 28.921 KNOW, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

02:10 - 29.855 WE MIGHT BE HAVING SOME BACK

02:10 - 30.722 AND FORTH WITH A KID WITH THE

02:10 - 31.490 CONSULTANT OR THE APPLICANT

02:10 - 35.427 ON IT. SO THEY MIGHT BE

02:10 - 36.295 SOMEWHERE IN THE QUEUE. BUT

02:10 - 39.631 IT'S MOVING. AND THEN YOU HAVE

02:10 - 42.467 THE SPEED PROGRAM WHICH ALLOWS

02:10 - 43.135 AN APPLICANT TO BYPASS THE

02:10 - 43.769 QUEUE AND USE A QUALIFIED

02:10 - 47.039 PROFESSIONAL. BUT OF COURSE,

02:10 - 47.673 YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.

02:10 - 48.340 ALL RIGHT. WELL, I THAT'S I

02:10 - 49.041 THINK THAT'S THAT'S GOOD NEWS

02:10 - 49.741 TO HEAR. I KNOW THAT WE'VE MET

02:10 - 51.710 SEVERAL TIMES ON THE PURRING

02:10 - 53.645 ISSUE. SO I APPRECIATE

02:10 - 54.346 >>YOUR STAFF EFFORTS TO TO TRY

02:10 - 55.013 TO EXPEDITE THOSE PROCESSES.

02:10 - 57.749 WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE IN

02:10 - 58.817 THAT DIRECTION TO MAKE

02:10 - 59.484 SURE THAT OUTSIDE INDUSTRIES

02:10 - 00.619 KNOW PENNSYLVANIA'S OPEN AND

02:11 - 04.823 READY FOR THANK YOU BOTH.

02:11 - 08.327 THANKS, GENTLEMEN, AND WE THANK

02:11 - 09.928 YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.

02:11 - 13.098 THANK HER SECRETARY OF THE DCNR

02:11 - 16.335 FOR BEING WITH US TODAY FOR

02:11 - 19.638 THIS BUDGET HEARING.

02:11 - 20.339 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 15

02:11 - 22.708 MINUTE RECESS AND THEN WE'LL BE

02:11 - 24.977 BACK AT 3.30, TO CONCLUDE

02:11 - 26.845 TODAY'S BUDGET HEARINGS WITH

02:11 - 30.549 THE JUDICIARY. SO WE'LL BE BACK

02:11 - 31.683 AT 3.30, TO THAT. TALK TO OUR

02:11 - 34.720 MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY.

02:11 - 04.216 THANKS, EVERYBODY.


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