Join PCN at The Pocono Indian Museum in East Stroudsburg as we explore Lenape history and learn the story behind this museum's creation.
00:00 - The following program was financed by a Grant from america to fifty pa.
00:35 - Xo easy for people to forget who the original
00:39 - inhabitants were the name pocono
00:42 - means valley between mountains
00:45 - most of the roads and areas and poconos many
00:49 - are native American names and i became very curious as to.
00:55 - Why there isn't something in the poconos dealing with
00:58 - native American people with such a historic background
01:01 - and that's how i became interested
01:03 - and
01:05 - if it wasn't through reserving some of the show history
01:08 - would be lost forever.
01:11 - You know that these people their land was
01:13 - taken from them they were literally you know.
01:17 - Taken out of this area
01:19 - of the native people that
01:21 - will not be which is the Delaware Indian people that was their name will not be
01:26 - meaning original people
01:27 - we wanted to show what they
01:30 - what they
01:31 - their life was like how they lived.
01:36 - I had a phone call from an individual that was looking to
01:41 - shell and
01:42 - native
01:42 - artifact collection that were native to the
01:45 - della water gap area
01:47 - the
01:48 - gentleman that
01:49 - i acquired the
01:51 - art collection from was an avid amateur archaeologist very knowledgeable yeah
01:55 - but he would spend all his spare time hunting
01:59 - in the below water gap national recreation area for
02:03 - artifacts
02:04 - once
02:05 - the
02:05 - the federal park
02:07 - federal government took over the park no one was allowed to
02:11 - to do that any longer to hunt for artifacts
02:13 - so this gentleman had to
02:15 - share serious collection of.
02:17 - Not only
02:18 - arrowheads spearheads but
02:20 - native pottery.
02:22 - It gave me the opportunity to
02:24 - actually borrow money from my brother-in-law to purchase this collection
02:29 - and then once i had
02:30 - the collection i went to
02:32 - the William penn museum in Harrisburg in our capital and i spoke with the.
02:38 - State archaeologist who was named dr Barry Kent
02:41 - and he looked at these
02:43 - sample of the artifacts and verified they were Delaware Indiana native.
02:49 - Artifacts
02:50 - and that gave me the
02:52 - the tool into
02:54 - looked into one opening
02:56 - an Indian museum.
03:02 - This
03:02 - is one of my favorite windows
03:04 - but there are the stone axe.
03:06 - Stone axe was not a tomahawk
03:08 - tomahawk is actually a Delaware Indian word
03:12 - which was pronounced Tommy Hawkins
03:14 - and that meant club
03:15 - so
03:16 - native people fall with clubs and sticks they didn't
03:19 - fight fight with a stone axe stone axe was used as a tool
03:24 - and it wouldn't take
03:25 - a scientist to know that it would be fairly dull
03:29 - to chop a tree down with a stone axe
03:31 - so the way it was done
03:33 - they would pack mud around the tree about four feet above the ground
03:38 - that was to keep the up
03:39 - part of the tree from catching on fire they would set fire to the trunk of the tree
03:44 - and as they begin the wood began to burn char
03:48 - they would take their stone axe and begin to chop away at the chime would
03:52 - naturally char charcoal would be a lot easier to chop than green hardwood.
03:58 - This is a bark house
04:00 - a replica of what would have looked like.
04:03 - When the Delaware Indians would have
04:05 - lived here
04:06 - five hundred years ago
04:08 - bark houses were made by lashing saplings together
04:11 - they would use rawhide strips
04:13 - and over top of the sapling they would peel large sheets of elm or oak bark
04:18 - and they literally show the bark onto the
04:21 - framework.
04:23 - This was known as a wookiee up
04:25 - the bark house or the bark house also had just
04:28 - platforms building in off the ground to sleep in.
04:32 - They were known as a hush soon
04:34 - and in the middle of the room
04:36 - would you would have had to imagine there was a cook the fire and the smoke would
04:40 - rise through the hole in the roof called a smoke hole
04:43 - and of course children
04:44 - you will always ask them to sit Indian style
04:46 - you know they'll sit cross legged on the floor
04:49 - with a native people didn't shit that way as accustomed they did it out of necessity
04:54 - because without a chimney to take the smoke out of the room
04:57 - you'd always have a three foot layer of smoke hanging in the ceiling
05:01 - so if you didn't shit below that smoke glare you choke
05:05 - and the only time they really looked like to stay in the bark house was in a
05:09 - cold bitter winter months
05:11 - they'd much rather sleep under the stars or under a lean-to outdoor
05:15 - this is what the village might have looked like along the riverbanks
05:19 - several hundred years ago
05:21 - you see hero what would be the bark houses whether
05:23 - they would have looked like from the outside
05:26 - you see there's tanning going on on some
05:30 - polls to ten hij
05:33 - to the right you see corn growing in the cornfield.
05:37 - A dugout canoe
05:38 - for trash
05:39 - rotation
05:40 - the difference between a bark house
05:42 - and an iroquois longhouse
05:44 - is that the Delaware's
05:46 - of one family lived in one bark house where the iroquois would have been like
05:51 - apartments they were called longhouses because they might have three to
05:55 - four families sharing that
05:57 - building.
05:58 - Occasionally someone will want to donate something and
06:01 - ninety percent of the time it's not native and we'd like to keep it
06:06 - that it is if it's possible to to to make a Delaware
06:10 - historically
06:11 - which is extremely rare
06:13 - and
06:14 - so we we really
06:16 - have to be careful as to what we
06:18 - as except as a donation
06:21 - because.
06:23 - I was told
06:24 - by Nora Dean
06:26 - that if you begin to.
06:30 - Mix folklore with the history it will.
06:34 - Detract
06:36 - from
06:36 - the
06:37 - the value of this set place as a museum
06:41 - so we're very careful as to what we get
06:43 - we contacted Norwich Thompson Dean
06:46 - and
06:47 - she was a full blood
06:49 - Delaware although not being native.
06:52 - Living in
06:53 - Dewey Oklahoma
06:54 - and we were fortunate enough to have her come through the museum
06:58 - i met her personally we have photographs in the museum of
07:02 - Nora Dean
07:03 - with her daughter
07:05 - and
07:06 - my wife and i
07:08 - she was also the
07:09 - last full blood Delaware that could speak to not be language.
07:14 - So it was recorded for
07:16 - for history sake.
07:18 - We wanted to tell a story
07:20 - so we we did it in a six room.
07:24 - Museum and we start with the paleolithic.
07:28 - Period
07:29 - and ended up with contact to the first Europeans
07:32 - by the time we did we'd discover that if we
07:34 - go through the museum giving a personal tour
07:37 - at the end of the day i could hardly speak any longer we would wait till we had a
07:41 - group of people and take them through
07:43 - so we devised a
07:46 - replay or an audio player that each family couple
07:50 - or group could take with them through the museum
07:53 - and when they come out
07:54 - we hope they have a better attitude about
07:56 - native American people than when they came in.
08:00 - We have a pottery display
08:02 - and the pods that are in there were
08:06 - reconstructed my wife actually put some of them together
08:09 - and they're held together
08:11 - to put them it's like working in three dimensional Jigsaw puzzle
08:14 - was not having a picture on the box to show you what it should look like
08:18 - and
08:19 - it is it's very time consuming to get it
08:22 - then we have one little ball
08:24 - that was
08:25 - found on shawnee on Delaware
08:27 - and we've had it examined buyers state archaeologist and we
08:31 - believe it's
08:32 - between eight hundred and one thousand years old
08:35 - today a Potter has a pottery wheel that turns and the clays formed as they
08:40 - tour as the wheel turns
08:42 - to show how the pottery was made
08:44 - the Indian use what's called the coiling method
08:47 - they would dig a hole in the ground
08:49 - they would line the hole with
08:51 - net native
08:52 - Clay and then they would roll long skinny pieces
08:55 - of Clay out to look like big cigars and they would
08:58 - roll these loops around
09:00 - and they would then smoothed them to get them to bond together
09:04 - they would then hate them
09:05 - in a in a fire in a hot oak fire till they
09:08 - turn white from heat and then they were tempered and naked
09:12 - they could cook enough
09:13 - to get a demonstration of what this would
09:16 - look like.
09:17 - No one wanted to do it
09:19 - and
09:20 - my my son my oldest son who's now fifty years old
09:24 - his
09:25 - school art teacher said let's try to do this and the two of them
09:29 - made these
09:31 - the story of how they would start with the little
09:34 - ball and the
09:36 - coils and
09:37 - to make the the the ball
09:39 - and so to me that's
09:40 - i'm proud of that that display because it's not only history
09:44 - but it's kind of like
09:45 - family too.
09:47 - It took us two years
09:49 - doing research in the meantime
09:51 - and then the building was in terrible shape
09:56 - and it took a lot of
09:57 - rehab to get
09:59 - to the point where we could open.
10:01 - The public so it was a good two years.
10:04 - After purchasing the collection to get the museum going
10:09 - and we open
10:10 - for the bicentennial in nineteen seventy six
10:13 - friend of mine
10:14 - who happened to be a builder
10:16 - was that interested in seeing this come to fruition that he said he would
10:21 - a renovate the building and bring it back to.
10:25 - Being able to use
10:27 - and i could pay him back in several years and
10:31 - i did
10:32 - and in
10:33 - much shorter time than expected.
10:35 - It's been a
10:36 - family project when we began our oldest son
10:40 - actually helped take out the materials that were
10:43 - in the walls to to tear them down.
10:47 - The walls in the building were so crooked
10:50 - that we couldn't put sheet rock on the walls so if you see we have
10:55 - rough out pine.
10:57 - That we purchase so that it could be
10:59 - put over top of the
11:01 - the existing framing that was so
11:04 - you know antiquated.
11:06 - So the whole family effort.
11:10 - To to get the museum going.
11:13 - It's kind of been my my life and my family.
11:17 - Particularly my wife who is the brains of the family
11:21 - i consider myself to be the pt barnum to get the people in
11:25 - in the museum and she makes sure that we
11:27 - pay the bills
11:29 - and when i was in highschool i'm from Wyoming valley
11:32 - and there was a scene of the Wyoming valley massacre when
11:35 - many of the settlers were attacked by native Americans.
11:39 - Who
11:40 - had their land taken from them
11:42 - and in the.
11:44 - News in the local library there was a desk that had been in a settlers home
11:50 - and the top of the desk had hatchet marks where
11:54 - a native American had tried to break into this
11:57 - desk
11:58 - and you could feel the grooves of the axe on the desk and it just fascinated me to
12:03 - to think of someone doing that a couple hundred years ago
12:07 - and so that started my interest in native Americans
12:10 - at the
12:11 - walking purchase treaty.
12:14 - It was an agreement between the Indians and
12:17 - William penn.
12:18 - Unfortunately William penn
12:21 - had passed away and he had a son
12:23 - Thomas.
12:25 - Who
12:25 - wanted to acquire more and more land and so he drew up this treaty that said that
12:29 - essential man could walk in a day and a half
12:32 - would be one border of a
12:34 - land one side of the land
12:36 - to be turned over to the colonists
12:39 - well the native American people did not understand ownership of land.
12:43 - It would be like saying.
12:46 - I only air in this room and no one can breathe it
12:49 - well they didn't understand ownership so when
12:52 - this walking purchase took place which ended up
12:55 - by having
12:57 - three.
12:58 - Individual foot runners
13:00 - the man who made the
13:02 - greatest distance was named Edward Marshall the village
13:04 - of marshalls creek which is five miles from here
13:07 - was named after him he
13:09 - covered sixty five miles in a day and a half
13:12 - and though he did that by swinging an ass axe as he walked
13:15 - heavily
13:16 - walk quickly through the forests and so they lost
13:20 - approximately sixty five thousand acres of property.
13:28 - Years ago we started with
13:30 - we were purists we just wanted a museum
13:33 - but people would come in and say well do you have
13:36 - a postcard do you have something that's native or
13:40 - what have you
13:41 - and my wife
13:43 - went to work trying to decide how best to.
13:47 - Do
13:47 - to accommodate this get the gifts that people were interested in
13:52 - and
13:53 - over fifty years we have expanded to the point where
13:57 - we have
13:58 - we have native American pottery we have native American jewelry
14:02 - we try to get a lot of native
14:04 - made
14:05 - items if we don't have it it will be labeled as such we don't.
14:10 - Want people to think we're
14:11 - we have something that is not really native made we have
14:14 - it on our second floor of the building we have over.
14:18 - I believe we're up to about
14:20 - two hundred and fifty
14:21 - different titles of books
14:23 - and we have quite an extensive.
14:26 - Library of anything you want to know about native American people
14:30 - the mission of the museum
14:32 - as far as i'm concerned
14:33 - is to take
14:35 - that individual who comes into the museum
14:38 - with and an image of a native American people as
14:41 - whooping and
14:42 - dancing and wearing colorful headdresses
14:45 - and
14:46 - turn them around to see that these were
14:49 - very intelligent
14:50 - people that lived on
14:52 - the earth
14:53 - and
14:54 - could do everything from making their own tools and homes and food
14:58 - growing your own vegetables
15:00 - and that they had their own society that people
15:03 - don't think of today.
15:07 - Missing nature center which exists today in marshalls creek it's an outdoor exhibit and
15:14 - an appreciation for giving them that the suggestion for the name they put this
15:19 - entire display together of herbs
15:21 - and met and plants that were used for both food and medicine
15:25 - view the
15:26 - native people had a lot of interesting remedies.
15:31 - Come to mind an example.
15:33 - If if a person today gets poison Ivy
15:37 - usually they will
15:38 - you know take a a drug a steroid to get rid of it
15:42 - well as the native people had poison Ivy they would go out in the spring of the year
15:46 - and eat a little piece of the poison Ivy
15:48 - leaf and they would do that for several weeks
15:50 - and they would actually build up a
15:53 - tolerance to the poison Ivy i don't really
15:56 - recommend anyone try that but they say that would work.
15:59 - On this section of the wall
16:01 - and on the
16:02 - right section of the wall or herbal remedies
16:05 - so many people ask questions about this on herbal remedies because his.
16:10 - Healthy attitude today in today's world people are looking for things to make
16:15 - themselves feel better it gives you the
16:17 - the
16:18 - common name the the
16:20 - scientific name and what the plant was used for for as far as medicine or what have you
16:26 - and the
16:27 - one
16:28 - on the right side
16:30 - would be herbal remedies and this is what more people are interested in
16:34 - trying to figure out what they can do to
16:37 - cure some sort of an ailment
16:39 - they also had what we would call today space age food.
16:43 - If the men were going to go hunting in the
16:45 - forest and they'd be gone for some time time
16:47 - they would wear
16:48 - a leather.
16:50 - Pouch around their neck and in that pouch would be.
16:54 - There would be corn corn meal ground corn meal.
16:58 - They would take yeast
17:00 - and they would add sugar maple syrup to it
17:03 - and they would roll them into balls and if they
17:05 - would get hungry there would eat one of these
17:08 - the corn gave their body protein and the sugar from the the maple syrup
17:13 - gave them the
17:14 - energy and the whole the yeast made it swell
17:16 - in their belly so it seemed like they had
17:19 - a full meal
17:20 - so here we had space age food
17:22 - thousand years ago.
17:25 - This is
17:26 - our environmental wall what you
17:27 - see here
17:28 - is a turtle shell in the middle of the wall
17:32 - an ace what appears to be a spiderweb
17:36 - and
17:36 - the photographs
17:38 - on the wall are either
17:40 - plants or animals that are part of our environment for our existence.
17:45 - The native people believe
17:47 - that
17:48 - the
17:48 - world rested on the back of a giant turtle
17:53 - and they could explain this because as the turtle would wander away from the earth
17:59 - and got closer to the sun they would have warmer weather it would be summer
18:03 - turtle walking with the earth earth on it's back
18:06 - would cause the water to slosh and that would explain tides and waves in the ocean
18:12 - and
18:13 - they believed that as long as we
18:15 - don't start to break strands in the web by doing something
18:19 - to our environment
18:20 - it would kill the plant life or animals.
18:24 - We can all
18:24 - exist
18:25 - you know together in our environment.
18:32 - When people tour the museum and they come out
18:35 - i like to see what they're
18:37 - what they're feeling was as to.
18:40 - What they thought about the museum today
18:43 - did they learn something
18:44 - was there something that that
18:46 - they didn't understand it then
18:48 - do understand.
18:50 - And.
18:51 - Do they appreciate what they saw
18:53 - to me that would be
18:55 - the most interesting part.