[2025] Edward Hand, Washington's Adjutant General with Christina McSherry.
00:09 - Christina McSherry,
00:11 - executive director at Historic Rockford.
00:14 - Welcome to our program. Thank you. Thank you for having me.
00:17 - Rockford in Lancaster County was the home of Edward Hand.
00:21 - Why was he a significant figure in history?
00:24 - Well, Edward Hand was, most prominently Washington's
00:28 - adjutant general during the American Revolution.
00:30 - And, but he was also a very fascinating figure in that he was a politician.
00:36 - He was a doctor.
00:37 - So he has there's many stories we can tell about early America
00:42 - through looking at his life.
00:43 - Well, let's
00:44 - consider Han's military service, especially alongside George Washington.
00:48 - By the time he joined Washington's army,
00:50 - what phase was the Revolutionary War in?
00:53 - In the very early stages.
00:55 - He actually had military experience.
00:57 - It might surprise he came from the British Army.
00:59 - He joined the British Army in 1767.
01:02 - And that was how
01:03 - he ended up in the United States, before it was the United States, of course.
01:07 - As a, surgeon's mate, he left the British Army in 1774
01:12 - and joined the Continental Army as lieutenant colonel in the
01:16 - in the first Pennsylvania, Thompson's Battalion in 1775.
01:20 - So he was in the war from the very beginning, all the way through to the end.
01:24 - he, went to Trinity College Dublin,
01:27 - became a, training as a doctor, he was stationed at Fort
01:31 - Pitt, by Pittsburgh, during that military service.
01:35 - And then he left in 1774.
01:38 - So why did hand come over here?
01:40 - He from from what we can tell.
01:44 - I mean, he was with the British Army, so I don't know that he had much of a choice.
01:48 - But when he left the British
01:49 - Army, he had decided he wanted to set up his own medical practice.
01:52 - And in the process of getting to Pittsburgh,
01:56 - he had made several contacts in,
01:59 - in Lancaster, and,
02:02 - when he decided to leave the British service, he decided,
02:06 - of course, not to go back to Ireland, that he liked Lancaster.
02:09 - He liked, the contacts that he made there.
02:12 - He had letters of introduction,
02:13 - and he felt he could set up a medical practice there.
02:17 - So he left Fort Pitt and came back to like it came to Lancaster to,
02:21 - make it at his home.
02:23 - So he did, in fact, practice medicine when he got to Lancaster,
02:25 - at least for a while, at least for a little bit.
02:27 - There was actually a very short time.
02:28 - He came to Lancaster at the end of 1774.
02:31 - He actually married in March of 1775.
02:34 - But by June of 75, he was already with the Continental Army.
02:39 - So he was not in Lancaster long after, his,
02:43 - he set up his home there before, joining the Continental Army.
02:48 - But then of course, he, after the war, he came back to Lancaster as well.
02:51 - So he got married not long after he got to Lancaster.
02:54 - Not at all. Tell us about the woman.
02:56 - So he married, Catholic Catherine Ewing.
03:00 - And her, her uncle is actually a prominent
03:03 - Lancaster named Jasper Yates, who was a judge.
03:05 - And, she we actually don't know a lot about her.
03:09 - Unfortunately, we actually have no letters
03:12 - between the two of them. We know he wrote her frequently,
03:15 - but none of the letters from her to him survive.
03:18 - So she's a little bit of a woman of mystery.
03:20 - We don't have a portrait of her or anything like that.
03:23 - But we do know that she lived with her uncle, Jasper Yates
03:26 - at the time that they got married, with her mother.
03:29 - And she has a brother as well.
03:31 - And then they set up house,
03:35 - just about a block away from Jasper Yates, in downtown Lancaster.
03:40 - After they got married.
03:42 - And then, of course, she stayed there, while he was away at war.
03:46 - So who lived in the house?
03:48 - It would have been, hand, when he was home.
03:53 - Catherine.
03:54 - And then, the children.
03:56 - Children came fairly quickly.
03:57 - Sarah Hand was born in 1775, so they got married in March,
04:01 - and she was born in 1775.
04:04 - But there also would have been several enslaved individuals as well.
04:07 - We do know particularly supporting the household while hand
04:11 - was fighting the American Revolution, there were three enslaved people.
04:15 - What do we know about the slaves? Yeah.
04:17 - So we know, of a man named Robert.
04:21 - Now, Robert is a bit unusual because he also acted as courier.
04:25 - So in addition to supporting the household at home, he actually ran, messages
04:30 - and supplies between, hand and his wife.
04:34 - And he was, a teenager approximately.
04:39 - During that time, another enslaved
04:42 - individual was, a woman named Susan.
04:45 - And she would have been helping with the domestic work at the home.
04:49 - She did attempt to self emancipate in 1779,
04:52 - but unfortunately she was captured and returned.
04:56 - And we have,
04:57 - records of her, the ads placed for her return.
05:01 - So we have a decent amount of information on Susan, and the one we know the least
05:05 - about is, a child of about the age of 12 named Bette, who would have also been
05:10 - assisting in the household, in in Lancaster
05:14 - city, during the war.
05:17 - Let's talk some more about Edward hands and military experience,
05:20 - especially when he met the commander of the Continental Army, George Washington.
05:24 - Yes. So he, he actually may have met Washington even before that.
05:28 - Because they crossed paths at fort at Fort Pitt.
05:31 - At one point, but,
05:35 - we do know that, hand was involved
05:39 - in many of the early engagements of the war, including the siege of Boston,
05:44 - crossing the Delaware, the Battle of Trenton,
05:47 - and then he was actually sent back to his old stomping ground of Fort Pitt.
05:52 - Now, out there, he was involved in the Sullivan Expedition,
05:55 - which was absolutely devastating for indigenous communities in the area.
06:00 - Sullivan Expedition, tell me about that.
06:02 - So that was, an expedition that was
06:07 - a part
06:07 - of the western Western campaign of the American Revolution.
06:10 - And it was directly targeted towards indigenous communities.
06:15 - Supposed to be towards indigenous communities who were supporting
06:18 - the British.
06:18 - But, that wasn't always clearly apparent.
06:22 - And it became, very devastating for all the indigenous
06:27 - communities in the area, including destroying villages and,
06:30 - basically their livelihoods and communities.
06:34 - As the expedition went through.
06:36 - So hand was a part of that.
06:38 - After his service in the West, he was brought back,
06:42 - sort of to the East Coast theater of the war.
06:46 - And he, was in Lafayette's brigade.
06:51 - So he knew the Marquis de Lafayette very well.
06:54 - And then, the position of adjutant general opened up and, to, of,
06:59 - he was a rival with Alexander Hamilton to get the position.
07:04 - I mean, who didn't have a rivalry with Hamilton?
07:07 - But hand, beat Hamilton and became Washington's adjutant general.
07:12 - Now, they were very close friends, from what we can tell.
07:14 - Washington and hand, and they maintained a connection after the war as well.
07:19 - In that, he was invited
07:22 - to the presidential residence in Philadelphia for dinner.
07:26 - He was invited to Mount Vernon for dinner and Washington came to Lancaster
07:30 - on the 15th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence to visit the hands,
07:33 - and actually made his only public 4th of July speech in Lancaster.
07:36 - When he came for that visit.
07:38 - Now, tell me
07:38 - more about the responsibilities in general of the Adjutant General job.
07:42 - Yes. It's, it has an administrative role.
07:45 - But it's a very military facing administrator role.
07:48 - So he works closely with the commander in chief to determine,
07:52 - sort of what is needed for a battle campaign.
07:57 - What is, you know, what is needed
08:01 - as far as supplies, what is needed as far as soldiers?
08:04 - And his job is to make sure that everyone gets where they're supposed
08:07 - to be, that the allotted people and supplies are there.
08:10 - And then, one thing that we see, at the end of these campaigns
08:15 - is we see his, he he's the one giving the reports of casualties.
08:21 - He's the one saying, okay, we lost this many men, this many wounded,
08:24 - this many captured.
08:25 - He's the one writing those reports to Congress, at the end.
08:28 - So he's sort of
08:30 - doing all that sort of accounting,
08:32 - and, administrative work as part of it as well.
08:36 - He would have been involved in planning the battles as well.
08:39 - Instrumental in planning the battles.
08:41 - We know for a fact that he was
08:43 - very heavily involved in the planning of the siege of Yorktown.
08:47 - So the battle that ended the war, And he was at the surrender.
08:50 - There's a letter between him, I believe, and Henry Knox talking about what
08:54 - to do with the surrendered British swords after they were done.
08:57 - So it was a very military facing role, but also a very important administrative
09:01 - role, very much front row seat to the actions of the war.
09:06 - What do we know about Edward Hand's attraction to military service?
09:11 - You know, we don't know a ton about that.
09:14 - His letters are his letters are fascinating.
09:16 - They're our biggest window in it, too.
09:19 - And and letters went back and forth between he and his wife.
09:21 - He and his wife and he and Jasper Yates, primarily.
09:24 - So his wife's uncle, those the families were very close.
09:28 - So, there's we sort of have to it's always interesting to look at when he's
09:33 - describing the same event to both people, because he takes a very different,
09:37 - I'm safe. Don't worry. That was very close.
09:40 - He just said when he talks just free, and he's like, that was a close one.
09:43 - And we talk to his wife. It's fine.
09:46 - But they're not. He's describing the same.
09:47 - How much does he want to stress out?
09:49 - His wife?
09:49 - His wife?
09:50 - So that's always interesting.
09:52 - His his letters are incredibly descriptive in terms of what he's seeing
09:56 - and where he is.
09:57 - You can actually trace the entire war through his letters.
09:59 - Everything from the Declaration of Independence in front of the army today.
10:04 - How did it how how was it received in Lancaster to, you know, describing the,
10:08 - the we have a letter where he describes crossing the Delaware with Washington.
10:13 - But he doesn't always let anything.
10:17 - There's very, very little about letting it personal,
10:20 - or his personal opinions about the military.
10:22 - The closest we have is a letter he wrote shortly after joining,
10:25 - that sort of gives the sense that because he decided to make his home in America,
10:30 - he saw a responsibility to the cause of American independence.
10:36 - He did seem to feel very, very strongly of that.
10:39 - That also comes through in his letters
10:42 - about the Benedict Arnold treason incident as well.
10:45 - He was very, very strong in his dislike of of Arnold.
10:50 - So at least his service
10:53 - in the American Revolution seems to be very much,
10:57 - tied to the cause, more so than service itself.
11:03 - We also do get a sense that he at times maybe
11:06 - got frustrated with military service because he wanted to be with his family.
11:09 - So we do have a couple back and forth where he came home on leave.
11:12 - And Washington's finally saying, all right, you're done.
11:13 - Now come back.
11:15 - And he's taken enough time. We can't come back to the Army.
11:18 - So yeah, that's that's about the insight we have as far as that.
11:23 - Well, as far as any other possible insight is concerned into his relationship
11:27 - with his wife. Did something come through in his letters?
11:30 - Yeah.
11:30 - As I said, we have a very one sided conversation between him and his wife
11:34 - because we don't have any of her letters back to him.
11:37 - We we have not found any of them, you know, that she wrote him.
11:40 - But we don't have those letters. We don't have those letters.
11:42 - One thing that I was taken with is his involvement with the children.
11:48 - He is talking about the children.
11:50 - He's talking about the children's medical care.
11:52 - He's talking about, gifts are getting a puppy for the children.
11:57 - So it seems like a very involved father, which I was struck with.
12:00 - But I also get the sense that maybe,
12:02 - Catherine didn't write him back as much as he wrote her.
12:06 - Because there are several letters that start with.
12:08 - I've written you a few times. Could you write back, please?
12:12 - So, we do get the sense that maybe he was writing
12:15 - her, a bit more frequently than he was getting return letters.
12:19 - So for how long did he go back and forth between Lancaster and the war?
12:22 - Pretty much the entire war.
12:24 - We have several, and we can tell this because of, a few children,
12:29 - as well as those letters back and forth between Washington talking about leave.
12:34 - So we do know he went back and forth.
12:36 - We do know he's had messengers coming back and forth.
12:39 - And we also know there was a lot of military business in Lancaster as well
12:42 - that he was involved with.
12:43 - Lancaster was a place where munitions were stored.
12:47 - And there's some letters with Henry Knox regarding that.
12:50 - But also, he had,
12:54 - hand was involved in the trial of John Andre, the British spy, and, he,
12:59 - Andre was, imprisoned in Lancaster,
13:02 - basically on house arrest.
13:06 - During, during that process. So,
13:08 - he was also doing some military things when he'd come to Lancaster as well.
13:12 - So it sounds like hand
13:13 - was often in the front row occupying the front row seat for history.
13:17 - Pretty much. He was there the entire war.
13:20 - Most of the events of the war,
13:23 - that you could think of or that people know of, he was there for
13:27 - and he was brushing shoulders with Washington and Hamilton and Lafayette
13:31 - and Rochambeau and all of these figures that we hear about for the revolution.
13:37 - What do you suppose his greatest military accomplishment was?
13:40 - What do we remember about him today?
13:43 - That that's a that is a hard one.
13:46 - I think
13:49 - one that he had
13:51 - the most impact on would have been something like the siege of Yorktown.
13:55 - Because of his position at that point,
13:57 - that's where he would have had the most impact.
14:00 - As far as the one people tend
14:03 - to notice about him is usually crossing the Delaware with Washington.
14:06 - Right. Immediately.
14:07 - That brings an image to mind as it does.
14:09 - And that particular image, there's no key for that image.
14:12 - But the.
14:13 - So we have no proof of this.
14:14 - But the urban legend, as it were, is the one behind the flag.
14:18 - Holding the hat is Edward Hand.
14:20 - Holding his hat. On his head is Edward Hand.
14:22 - But of course, like I said, we have no proof of that.
14:24 - So I have to say, if if visitors are thinking about it over here,
14:29 - they often think about that crossing the Delaware.
14:31 - But as far as his actual historical impact,
14:33 - I think Yorktown, would probably be where I'd fall on that.
14:36 - Finally, the war ended. What did he do then?
14:40 - He came back to Lancaster.
14:41 - Now he was still in the military.
14:43 - He actually, didn't his commission didn't end until, 1800.
14:48 - So he was actually in the new United States military.
14:51 - But, he came back.
14:54 - He practiced medicine.
14:55 - He also became a gentleman farmer.
14:56 - Eventually at Rockford.
14:58 - So in, 1790, they lived in their town house in Lancaster.
15:03 - He bought land outside of Lancaster and,
15:07 - started the process of building the house.
15:09 - They would eventually move there in 1794.
15:12 - But he held a lot of, government positions.
15:15 - After the war.
15:17 - So he was in the first electoral college.
15:20 - He was in the Continental Congress in, late in the 1780s.
15:24 - He was in, he helped write the Pennsylvania Constitution.
15:30 - He was Lancaster Lancaster's chief Burgess.
15:33 - He actually advocate.
15:34 - We have a letter where he advocated for Lancaster
15:36 - to become the capital of the country.
15:38 - And it's interesting because it reads in many ways
15:40 - the same things that we tout for, like college admissions in Lancaster or,
15:46 - people, or tourism of like, it's close to Baltimore
15:50 - and it's close to Philadelphia and it's close to New York.
15:53 - It has everything. It has everything.
15:55 - There's a lot of different people here.
15:57 - He, he helped create the almshouse and hospital in Lancaster.
16:02 - The turnpike, he was, a founding member of that.
16:06 - He was a founding member of the, and president of the Society of Cincinnati.
16:10 - So, which is a fraternal organization for Revolutionary War, officers.
16:16 - So he really had a lot of those foundational positions
16:20 - to the founding of the country, the founding of the country.
16:25 - In many different areas, everything from local government
16:28 - to national government to
16:32 - sort of the setup of institutions.
16:34 - But then he also was a doctor and he was becoming a farmer, a gentleman farmer.
16:41 - It's funny how a census, with its mundane information
16:44 - can reveal interesting things.
16:46 - And I noticed that the 1800 census, I showed 14 people living at Rock
16:51 - Ford House, so 14 people in that house give me an idea of what life was like.
16:56 - And some of them were slaves.
16:57 - Yeah. So, yeah.
16:58 - So we have, the 1800 census is actually one of our best records
17:02 - for that early time at, at, Rock.
17:05 - So we do know they moved there in 1794 based off of tax documents.
17:09 - And then in 1800, we get a little bit of insight into who lived there.
17:14 - Now, a lot of those people were family.
17:16 - So we do know hand and his wife still have kids living there.
17:21 - Yes. So actually, none of the children married until after had passed away.
17:25 - Which is a bit unusual.
17:26 - The daughters were in their mid to late 20s by that point.
17:29 - When they moved into the house in 1794,
17:32 - there were seven children between the ages of two and 19.
17:35 - And they actually had eight children.
17:38 - Unfortunately, one of those children passed away
17:40 - before moving to Rockford, so that accounts for a lot of that number.
17:45 - In addition to that, we have
17:47 - three paid, three free white people.
17:52 - Two are, women, one older and one younger and one man.
17:56 - We believe that this was these could have been paid servants
18:00 - or something like that.
18:01 - We don't have names associated with them,
18:03 - and unfortunately, we don't have any other, records.
18:06 - And then the other person who was in the house was, a man named
18:09 - Frank, and Frank was, living at Rockford, and Frank was an enslaved man.
18:15 - He is the, enslaved man that we know was at Rockford.
18:20 - It doesn't appear any of the enslaved people
18:23 - that were at their townhouse in Lancaster came to Rockford with them.
18:26 - And Frank was their carriage driver.
18:28 - He did self emancipate in 1802, and was successful.
18:33 - We we believe he probably made it to Philadelphia is our current best guess.
18:38 - But at the time in 1800, he would have been their carriage driver.
18:41 - So he would have been maintaining the carriage house, the horses,
18:45 - and then driving the hands where they needed to go.
18:48 - From from the from the home.
18:51 - Well, let's consider the Rockford house today.
18:53 - Let's bring it completely up to date, because the public can take
18:56 - a tour of Edward Han's former home in Lancaster County.
19:00 - So, briefly, give me a description of the outside of that mansion.
19:03 - Yeah.
19:03 - So the mansion itself is a Georgian mansion.
19:07 - So we are on the National Register of Historic Places
19:09 - and in the National Building Survey.
19:11 - In part because of the connection to Han, because he is an important
19:14 - historic figure, but actually also because of that architecture.
19:17 - It is textbook early American Georgian architecture.
19:22 - And what's absolutely remarkable is the house itself is 90% in
19:26 - original condition.
19:28 - Two 1794 there were no additions or anything like that placed on it.
19:32 - So the architecture that you see today as a visitor,
19:35 - the hardware, the doors, the windows, it is,
19:39 - like I said, 90% original, pretty much the only thing that has been completely
19:42 - rebuilt is the porch that is on the back of the house.
19:45 - But the front of the house is your standard Georgian, facade.
19:50 - So it has the symmetry.
19:51 - It has, you know, the fan, window above the door.
19:57 - It has the brickwork has,
20:00 - is fascinating because it has more expensive patterns
20:03 - where it would be seen, less expensive patterns on, like the back of the house.
20:08 - But yeah, it's very textbook Georgian.
20:10 - Well, let's consider some of the items within the house
20:13 - that have a personal connection to Edward Hand.
20:16 - And one of the items you have is, his name plates from out in the field,
20:19 - that that's a special thing to have. Yeah.
20:21 - So the name plate is actually on a field desk.
20:24 - So, the field desk is,
20:28 - it's a it's a wooden box that would fold out and create a desk.
20:33 - And this was hands during the revolution.
20:36 - So all of that
20:36 - administrative correspondence, there's reports to Congress of casualties.
20:40 - Those letters to his wife would have been written on this desk,
20:43 - during the revolution.
20:45 - And we're lucky enough to have that.
20:46 - And who knows?
20:47 - Maybe their impressions in the top of that desk.
20:49 - Possible. We haven't found any yet. You never know.
20:53 - Let's consider
20:54 - the, what is called the formal parlor.
20:57 - There.
20:58 - And just the whole idea of a parlor just sounds quaint in the 21st century.
21:01 - It hasn't it?
21:02 - Yeah. It does.
21:02 - So this is the.
21:03 - This would have been the most public room of the house.
21:06 - And the way we've furnished the house, we're lucky enough to have,
21:09 - several items from the hand family, but of course, we don't have everything
21:13 - that was in the home.
21:14 - But when hand passed away in 1802, a probate inventory was done of the home.
21:19 - And it basically gives us a listing of everything that was in the house in 1802.
21:25 - And because they were only there from 1794 to 1802, we can assume
21:29 - that those items were probably there for at least a portion of it.
21:32 - It's not like someone lived in the home, or the family lived in the home
21:35 - from like 18, ten to, you know, 1870 and 1871 reflect 1810.
21:41 - We can say that
21:41 - that probate inventory is very reflective of the family's time there
21:45 - because it was so small.
21:46 - After Han died, Catherine remained there a couple of years, till 1805.
21:49 - Yeah.
21:50 - And then the eldest son passed away in 1807.
21:53 - And then it was sold out of the family.
21:55 - But the formal parlor would have been the most public space it has,
21:58 - the piano forte.
22:02 - It has the most lavish, decoration and furnishings.
22:05 - So this is where they would have entertained and,
22:09 - those furnishings that we have, we've tried to match
22:11 - to that probate inventory as much as possible.
22:14 - Tell us about this chair.
22:16 - Yeah.
22:16 - So the, hands chair, this is, on display in the study,
22:20 - and this has come to us through a hand descendant.
22:24 - Now, we do believe it was custom made for general hand.
22:27 - We don't have a lot of information on it, but if you see it in person,
22:31 - and maybe you can even see this from the image.
22:33 - It's a bit long in the seat.
22:35 - Especially compared to other chairs of the period.
22:39 - Hand was six foot four.
22:41 - So we men had long legs. Yes.
22:44 - And you picture him next to Washington?
22:46 - Both of them being very tall, in the period.
22:50 - So we believe that was custom made for him and,
22:53 - a bit long in the seats to, accommodate, his height.
22:58 - About the dining room there.
23:00 - Yeah.
23:01 - So the dining room, this would have been
23:02 - the other most public space of the of the home.
23:06 - And, again, done by the probate inventory,
23:11 - or, interpreted using the probate inventory for us.
23:15 - But there's a couple
23:16 - really special things in this room that I do want to point out.
23:18 - One is the window in the kitchen in the dining room.
23:22 - Actually still has two of the children's names carved into it,
23:26 - which is pretty special. Sure, it is.
23:27 - The eldest son and daughter carved their name onto the window,
23:31 - so that is still there.
23:33 - The other thing is the portrait of George Washington.
23:35 - Now, this one is a replica.
23:36 - But we do know that a portrait, probably a Gilbert Stuart
23:40 - portrait of Washington, was hanging in the home,
23:44 - when the hands lived there again, showing that relationship with Washington
23:47 - as well as, sort of the patriotism of the, of the early republic.
23:52 - And another thing that's pretty special about our interpretation is we do,
23:56 - change up our table, the food that's on our table,
23:59 - every item on the table is representative of a period recipe.
24:02 - And it gives us a way to talk about the people who are cooking,
24:06 - who are the other people in the household other than just hand.
24:09 - So your display gives us insight into their diet, into their diet.
24:12 - It occurred to me.
24:12 - Yeah.
24:13 - And we change that, every month or two.
24:16 - And, we have a wonderful volunteer who actually makes all of our food
24:20 - based off of these recipes.
24:22 - And, I think that's something sort of unique,
24:25 - a unique insight that you can get, in the way that we interpret them.
24:29 - So when people take a tour of this house, Christina,
24:32 - they can get up close to these.
24:34 - Yeah.
24:34 - So our tours are, the house isn't as big as you would think.
24:38 - Especially when, when we go through how many people live there.
24:40 - It's, it's a three bedroom home with parents and seven children.
24:44 - So. But our tours are fairly intimate, so they're,
24:48 - no more than 15 people usually.
24:49 - So you really can get into the room and see what's there.
24:53 - So tell us about the kitchen.
24:54 - That's got to be, a busy room in a house with a lot of people.
24:57 - Yeah.
24:58 - So this kitchen would have been the heart of the household,
25:00 - even if he and his wife were not down there frequently, if at all.
25:04 - And this is where Frank would have interacted.
25:07 - This is where the servants, would have been working.
25:10 - But there are some interesting things about the kitchen.
25:13 - The kitchen is largely very well preserved. We still use it.
25:16 - We have an 18th century cooking,
25:19 - reenactment, group that called Warm Hearts Committee.
25:23 - They, demonstrate cooking once a month in there,
25:26 - and they try to make the recipes that you see on the dining room table
25:29 - so that there's that continuity of how it would have been done.
25:32 - But they could have gotten food from Lancaster.
25:34 - It was a market town. Philadelphia.
25:35 - It would have been bustling.
25:37 - But there are some one of the interesting things
25:39 - that you can see in the image is the, what's called the spit jack.
25:43 - And it was a time saving thing.
25:46 - It sort of works like a lined up toy.
25:47 - And it's on the, the sort of the mantel.
25:49 - You can see it there,
25:50 - and it's actually connected to a weight, and you can wind it up
25:54 - and it's connected to a wheel on your meat spit.
25:57 - And when it's all wound up, it turns your meat spit for about 20 minutes,
26:01 - and then you can wind it back up and it'll turn it for another 20 minutes
26:04 - so that you didn't have to be turning your meat spit.
26:06 - And that's something that we know they had based off of that probate inventory.
26:10 - Let's take a look at the bed chamber at Rock Ford.
26:13 - Christina, is everything in that photo authentic?
26:16 - Yes. And actually more authentic than you would realize.
26:19 - Oh, so those bed hangings and curtains, actually, still exist?
26:25 - They're in winter tour museums collection in Delaware.
26:28 - The hand bed hangings.
26:30 - And they have been meticulously reproduced,
26:33 - in, for our interpretation.
26:37 - So, not only do you see
26:40 - period furniture and the things that reflect that permeated,
26:43 - but we can actually say exactly what pattern was on the,
26:47 - the hands bed hangings, which is pretty cool.
26:50 - Now, the last picture we're going to look at is
26:52 - especially interesting to me,
26:53 - because you said you don't have a lot of personal information about Catherine,
26:56 - but yet you have something as intimate as an article. Clothing.
26:59 - Yes. So we don't have any of her letters to hand.
27:02 - We don't have a portrait of her, but we do have one of her pieces of clothing.
27:07 - We have her dress.
27:08 - If I had to pick a favorite piece in in our collection, this would.
27:12 - This would be it.
27:13 - And what's interesting is the fabric is older than the dress.
27:16 - The fabric is imported from England and 1750 or 60.
27:20 - And the dress was remade to be fashionable a few times.
27:24 - This the view of it that you see today reflects approximately
27:28 - the around the time, the hands got married in 1775.
27:32 - So it gives us some insight into her clothing, her her her size and stature.
27:37 - It's something very personal.
27:39 - Last question.
27:40 - Christina. When a visitor completes
27:42 - a tour that Rockport, what do you hope they go away with?
27:45 - We hope we go.
27:46 - They go away with, a better understanding.
27:50 - Not just of hand, but of early America and early American culture.
27:54 - We always talk about these folks that are doing the big things,
27:59 - the things that hand and hands life between the doctor and the immigrant.
28:04 - He's, you know, being an immigrant, the farmer, the politician.
28:08 - We have so many windows and avenues to discuss early America,
28:12 - an early American culture.
28:13 - We also have, the enslaved people, the servants, the tenant farmers.
28:17 - Rockford is really a great place for those conversations.
28:24 - Combined with the John Jay Snyder Junior Gallery, which opened in 2021.
28:28 - And that collection.
28:30 - Christina McSherry, executive director
28:33 - at Historic Rock Ford, thank you very much.
28:36 - Thank you.