00:09 - >>AND EPIC BATTLE TOOK PLACE

00:09 - HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA. THEY CAME

00:12 - TO BE KNOWN AS THE TURNING

00:15 - POINT OF THE CIVIL WAR ON JULY.

00:18 - FIRST, SECOND AND 3RD AND 18.

00:20 - 63, THE UNION ARMY FROM THE

00:21 - NORTH AND THE CONFEDERATE ARMY

00:23 - FROM THE SOUTH CLASHED AT THE

00:26 - BATTLE OF GETTYSBURG FOR THIS

00:29 - SPECIAL CALL IN PROGRAM.

00:30 - ONLY PCN HAS IN ITS POSSESSION

00:33 - A TIME MACHINE THAT WILL ALLOW

00:35 - VIEWERS TO CONNECT WITH THE

00:38 - BATTLES. PARTICIPANTS, UNION

00:39 - ARMY COMMANDER GENERAL JOHN

00:42 - BUFORD.

00:44 - AND UNION ARMY COMMANDER

00:45 - COLONEL WILLIAM MCCANDLESS ARE

00:48 - HERE. WELCOME TO OUR

00:49 - PROGRAM. GENTLEMAN CURRENTLY

00:50 - CAN LISTEN. GONNA START WITH

00:51 - YOU. WHAT WE'RE DOING IN LIFE

00:53 - BEFORE YOU JOINED THE MILITARY

00:56 - SERVICE

00:59 - >>WHEN I COMPLETED MY

01:01 - SCHOOLING, I WENT TO I WORK

01:03 - AS AN APPRENTICE. MACHINIST

01:06 - AT HER. RICHARD NURSE AND SONS

01:08 - LOCOMOTIVE WORKS. AND I DID

01:13 - THAT FOR 5 YEARS. BUT I WANTED

01:13 - TO MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE.

01:15 - SO I BECAME A RAILROAD ENGINEER

01:17 - FOR PENNSYLVANIA, RARE AND AND

01:18 - DOING THAT FOR A FEW YEARS.

01:19 - THAT WASN'T AND NOT FOR ME.

01:23 - I HAD PENSION FOR DEBATE AND

01:27 - PEOPLE SAID I HAD A PLEASANT

01:28 - ELOCUTION. SO I THOUGHT I'D GO

01:32 - INTO LAW. AND SO I READ FOR LAW

01:34 - FOR AT 2 DIFFERENT OFFICES AND

01:38 - 18 58. I PASSED THE BAR.

01:38 - GENERAL BUFORD. WERE YOU DOING

01:41 - BEFORE DUTY CALLED?

01:43 - >>I'M GOING TO SCHOOL. WAS

01:45 - APPOINTED TO WEST POINT WHEN I

01:48 - WAS 18.

01:50 - AND GRADUATED FROM WEST POINT

01:53 - WITH THE CLASS OF 18. 48.

01:56 - I WAS DOING EARLY TEENAGE

02:00 - YEARS. THINGS. BUT I WENT TO

02:01 - WEST POINT TO YOU AT AN ID YOU

02:01 - LEARN TO CAREER IN THE

02:04 - MILITARY. YES, SIR. MEN, OLDER

02:05 - BROTHER THAT HAD GRADUATED FROM

02:09 - WEST POINT. ALSO, HE DID NOT

02:09 - MAKE A FULL CAREER OUT OF THE

02:14 - MILITARY. LOOK, I GOT OUT OF

02:15 - WEST POINT IN 18 48 COMMISSION

02:16 - AS A SECOND LIEUTENANT WITH

02:19 - THE SECONDARY BOOMS.

02:20 - AND ONE OFF FROM IMMEDIATELY

02:21 - SERVING IN THE WEST DURING THE

02:24 - INDIAN WARS SERVING IN KANSAS

02:26 - TO KEEP THE CONFLICT DOWN

02:29 - BETWEEN THE. FREE STATERS AND

02:31 - THEN THE PRO SLAVERY FACTIONS

02:36 - IN KANSAS AND IT UP IN UTAH

02:40 - TRYING TO PROTECT SETTLERS,

02:41 - PILGRIMS OR GENTILES AS THE

02:41 - MORMONS CALLED THEM AS THEY

02:44 - WERE PASSING

02:45 - THROUGH UTAH. I THINK PEOPLE'S

02:46 - WAGON TRAIN SAFE. AND THAT'S

02:48 - WHERE I WAS WHEN THE WAR BROKE

02:49 - OUT. WELCOME TO THE PC IN COLIN

02:52 - PROGRAM. I'M LARRY CASPER.

02:54 - >>OUR GUESTS ARE STANDING BY TO

02:55 - ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT

02:57 - THE BATTLE OF GETTYSBURG.

02:59 - NOW WE WANT TO MAKE THIS

03:01 - PROGRAM FUND AS WELL AS

03:03 - EDUCATIONAL. SO PLEASE ASK YOUR

03:04 - QUESTIONS IN A WAY THAT WILL

03:07 - PERMIT OUR GUESTS TO STAY IN

03:08 - CHARACTER. CALL OUR TOLL-FREE

03:13 - NUMBER AT 1, 8, 7, 7, PA 6,

03:13 - 5,001. OR YOU CAN TEXT US AT

03:19 - 7, 1, 7, 2, 1, 9, 4,001.

03:22 - OUR COLONEL MCCANDLESS

03:24 - WHAT WAS YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF

03:26 - THE CONDITIONS THAT STARTED THE

03:26 - CIVIL WAR? NOW THIS IS WELL

03:29 - BEFORE GETTYSBURG.

03:36 - >>THE CONDITIONS AS I KNEW IT

03:37 - AT THE TIME AS A YOUNG MAN AS A

03:38 - YOUNG MAN, YOU'RE PRACTICING

03:41 - LAW THAT I'M STILL I'M. I WAS

03:41 - PRACTICING LAW JUST SEVERAL

03:42 - YEARS BEFORE THE WAR BROKE OUT.

03:47 - I HAD A LITTLE INTEREST IN

03:50 - POLITICS. I HAD BELONG TO THE

03:53 - KEYSTONE CLUB DEMOCRATIC CLUB

03:56 - IN PHILADELPHIA.

03:57 - HOWEVER, I IT WASN'T AS

03:59 - POLITICAL TO BE IN TUNE TO WHAT

04:01 - WAS GOING ON. HOWEVER, I DIDN'T

04:04 - KNOW THAT.

04:06 - PHILADELPHIA ITSELF WAS A VERY

04:09 - PATRIOTIC, A CITY. AND THERE

04:10 - WAS A LOT OF PATRIOTIC FERVOR

04:13 - GOING ON JUST ABOUT THE TIME

04:16 - WHEN THE WAR BROKE OUT.

04:20 - GENERAL BUFORD, A KIND OF

04:20 - MCCANDLESS JUST TALKED ABOUT

04:21 - PATRIOTIC FERVOR. AND I WONDER

04:23 - IF YOU OBSERVE THAT IS THE

04:25 - YOUNG MAN JUST BEFORE THE WAR.

04:27 - AND AND IN YOUR ESTIMATION,

04:27 - WHAT WERE THE CONDITIONS THAT

04:29 - MADE THIS WHOLE THING HAPPENED?

04:32 - >>WELL,

04:34 - CERTAINLY A CONCERNS OF OF US

04:34 - OWNERS OF THEIR ECONOMIC

04:38 - STRUCTURE, WHETHER IT WAS.

04:40 - TRYING TO NORTHERN ARE TRYING

04:42 - TO RELIEVE THEM OF THEIR

04:42 - PRIMARY ASUS, WHICH HAPPENED TO

04:46 - BE IN THE SLAVE, BUT ALSO.

04:49 - POLICIES OF THE INCREDIBLE

04:50 - TARIFFS. AS PRESIDENT LINCOLN

04:52 - SAID, WE CAN'T LET THIS OFF

04:54 - LEAVE BECAUSE HOW WE FUND THE

04:57 - GOVERNMENT WITHOUT THEM AND WAS

04:58 - THE GOVERNMENT WAS FUNDED BY

05:01 - TARIFFS ON SOUTHERN PORT.

05:02 - SO THAT WAS A BIG THING.

05:02 - I GREW UP IN KENTUCKY AND THE

05:05 - SLAVEHOLDING FAMILY.

05:07 - SO WHEN THE WAR BROKE OUT,

05:08 - GOVERNOR OF KENTUCKY, SOME A

05:11 - LETTER SAID THE

05:12 - CAPTAIN BUFORD, IF YOU COME

05:14 - HOME AND SERVED THE

05:14 - CONFEDERACY, I CAN ASSURE YOU

05:15 - ANY RANK AND COMMAND YOU WANT.

05:20 - A ROLLING BACK. THE MAIL

05:22 - DELIVERED BY PONY EXPRESS.

05:23 - BUT I WROTE HIM BACK AND SAID

05:25 - I'M A CAPTAIN IN THE UNITED

05:25 - STATES ARMY. I RECKON I'M GOING

05:29 - TO STAY ONE. A MAN IS ONLY

05:31 - ALLOWED. 3 OLSON IS LIVE FROM

05:32 - THE U.S. TO GOD AND THE COUNTRY

05:33 - AND THE SPOUSE. AND I'VE

05:34 - ALREADY DONE ALL 3 OF THEM.

05:34 - I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK AND

05:37 - MAKE ANOTHER ALSO. I DID STAND

05:38 - THE UNION ARMY, BUT I ASSURE

05:42 - YOU I WAS NOT FIGHTING THE WAR

05:44 - OVER SLAVERY. ONE WHERE THE

05:46 - OTHER IT WAS STRICTLY FOR

05:47 - PRESERVATION OF THE UNION AND

05:47 - THE FULFILLED THE OBLIGATION I

05:49 - HAVE MADE WHEN I GRADUATED FROM

05:52 - WEST POINT. HOW ABOUT YOU,

05:53 - COLONEL MCCANDLESS WIN. THE

05:53 - SOUTHERN STATES BROKE AWAY FROM

05:55 - THE UNION.

05:55 - >>WHAT IMPRESSION DID THAT MAKE

05:58 - ON YOU?

06:02 - >>WELL, I WAS A VERY PATRIOTIC

06:03 - INDIVIDUAL AND CERTAINLY I WAS

06:04 - IN FAVOR OF PRESERVING THE

06:06 - UNION.

06:09 - WHEN FORT SUMTER WAS FIRED ON

06:10 - IN PRESIDENT LINCOLN CALLED

06:13 - ON 75,000 MEN. I WAS ONE OF

06:15 - THE FIRST MAN FROM PHILADELPHIA

06:18 - TO VOLUNTEER TO SERVE.

06:23 - AND I GENERAL BUFORD WHEN YOU

06:25 - EVENTUALLY GOT TO GETTYSBURG,

06:27 - WHAT WAS YOUR MILITARY CAREER

06:28 - LIKE IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE

06:28 - BATTLE OF GETTYSBURG? CAN YOU

06:31 - TELL

06:32 - US BRIEFLY?

06:32 - >>WAS COMMANDING THE FIRST

06:33 - DIVISION UNITED STATES CALVARY?

06:38 - >>SO CERTAINLY THE GETTYSBURG

06:39 - CAMPAIGN REALLY STARTED AT

06:40 - ABOUT TRANSFERS BILL. THE FIRST

06:44 - OF MAY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN NOT

06:46 - GENERALLY DECIDED TO START

06:46 - MOVING AS ARMY NORTH. MY

06:50 - DIVISION WAS TASKED WITH

06:50 - TRACKING AND REPORTING EXACTLY

06:51 - WHERE THE CONFEDERATE ARMY WAS

06:54 - AT ALL TIMES THAT WE HAD NEARLY

06:55 - NEARLY DAILY ENGAGE MONTHS

06:58 - FROM.

06:58 - EARLY MAY RIGHT UP UNTIL THE

07:02 - TIME THAT AND GAUGE THEM THE

07:05 - MORNING OF JULY FIRST AND

07:06 - BROUGHT ON THE BATTLE OF

07:06 - GETTYSBURG. GENTLEMEN, THANK

07:09 - YOU. LET'S START TAKING PHONE

07:12 - CALLS. 1, 8, 7, 7, PA 6, 5,001.

07:13 - >>TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT

07:15 - THE BATTLE OF GETTYSBURG, A

07:16 - BILL YOU'RE ON PCN FROM

07:18 - WASHINGTON. PA.

07:21 - >>YES, THAT WAS ONE OR A COME

07:22 - DOWN. YOU'RE GETTING FOR

07:23 - PREACHING PER STUNNING. ALSO

07:26 - 3 ON THIS ONE AND HOW MANY

07:28 - CAMPFIRES HURT. SO THEY HAVE

07:30 - THE ONE TO 3 DAYS OF BATTLE

07:33 - JULY FOR SECOND, 30 P 53.

07:34 - >>HOW MANY? WHAT'S PELLETED?

07:36 - YOU DON'T CATCH THAT.

07:39 - >>AND CAMPFIRE. THE MAN AT THE

07:40 - CAMP FIRE HAVING A CHURCH

07:42 - SERVICE COMING WATER.

07:43 - >>CAN EITHER OF YOU COMMENT

07:45 - ON THAT CAMPFIRES FOR CHURCH

07:48 - SERVICES INC?

07:49 - I CAN'T COMMENT ON THAT.

07:50 - LET'S GO INTO THE NEXT CALL.

07:50 - SORRY ABOUT THAT. DO I WISH WE?

07:53 - NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER CALL

07:54 - YET, BUT WE'RE WAITING FOR YOUR

07:57 - CALLS, FOLKS. 1, 8, 7, 7 PA 6,

08:01 - 5,001.

08:02 - AND THE CALL IS COMING IN RIGHT

08:04 - NOW AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT.

08:06 - GEORGE IS CALLING FROM GAP.

08:07 - YOU'RE ON PC AND GEORGE, ASK

08:10 - YOUR QUESTION.

08:12 - >>I HAVE A QUESTION FOR JOHN

08:14 - BLUFORD AND SHE GLAD THAT

08:15 - GEORGE PRESSURE WAS NOT PART OF

08:17 - THINGS DIVISION.

08:21 - >>I'M QUITE PLEASED WITH THE

08:22 - FACT THAT HE WAS SERVING UNDER

08:23 - GENERAL KERR KIRKPATRICK

08:25 - INSTEAD OF MYSELF BECAUSE WE

08:28 - WOULD HAVE HAD A SYRIA'S

08:31 - PERSONALITY CONFLICT

08:33 - CUSTER LIKE HAVING A TENSION.

08:36 - HE LIKED HAVING REPORTERS IN

08:37 - EAST CAMP SITES AND AROUND HIS

08:37 - HAD A GREAT, BIG, LARGE STAFF.

08:45 - PRESENT BRIGADE COMMANDER AS A

08:47 - DIVISION COMMANDER. I'LL KNOW

08:48 - NEWSPAPER MAN IN MY COUNTY.

08:49 - I DIDN'T LIKE THEM. I DIDN'T

08:49 - LIKE THE FAKE NEWS THAT THEY

08:52 - WERE PUBLISHING AND THEY WERE

08:52 - WORSE THAN SPIES BECAUSE YOU

08:55 - COULDN'T HANG THEM.

08:56 - WHEN THEY WOULD REPORT

08:59 - EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING AND YOU

09:01 - HAD NO RECOURSE AGAINST FROM

09:01 - SOY ALLOWED NO REPORTERS IN

09:04 - POROUS CUSTER WAS CONSTANTLY

09:07 - PLYING. REPORTERS

09:08 - WILL THAW WOMEN. UNLIKE IRAN,

09:10 - THEY WOULD WRITE VERY LORING

09:12 - REPORTS OF HIM. HEY, LIKE

09:13 - SHOWING OFF WITH THIS FANCY

09:14 - UNIFORMS LIKE TYPICALLY JUST

09:15 - FOR A HUNTING JACKET AND I DID

09:19 - HAVE MY SINGLE STAR BAR ON MY

09:20 - HOME. MY JACKET WHERE WE

09:23 - DRESSED UP.

09:25 - >>COLONEL MCCANDLESS, HOW'S THE

09:26 - WAR GOING FOR THE NORTH

09:26 - IMMEDIATELY BEFORE? GET A

09:29 - SPARK.

09:29 - I WAS GOING POORLY IS MY

09:33 - OPINION TIME.

09:36 - WE WERE NOT WINNING MANY OF THE

09:38 - BATTLES I FOUGHT AND MOST OF

09:39 - THE MAJOR BATTLES AND THE

09:43 - PENINSULA CAMPAIGN AND WE

09:44 - DIDN'T DO VERY WELL IN THAT

09:48 - CAMPAIGN. UNDER MCCLELLAN AND

09:48 - AND IT WASN'T UNTIL I THINK.

09:55 - THE UNION ARMY STARTED TO MOVE

09:56 - TO PURSUE THE CONFEDERATE ARMY

10:00 - HEADING TOWARDS PENNSYLVANIA.

10:03 - >>THAT MANY OF THE MEN.

10:05 - >>ESPECIALLY THOSE FROM

10:08 - PENNSYLVANIA. I BEGAN TO.

10:13 - THE MORE ENTHUSED ABOUT AND

10:15 - THEIR MOUTH. MORALE INCREASE

10:16 - ABOUT FIGHTING BECAUSE NOW

10:18 - THEY'RE DEFENDING THEIR OWN

10:19 - STATE AS OPPOSED TO FIGHTING

10:24 - IN VIRGINIA. SO I THINK THIS

10:27 - WAS NOT SO MUCH THE TURNING

10:29 - POINT OF THE WAR, BUT IT WAS A

10:29 - TURNING POINT AND MORALE FOR

10:32 - THE UNION SOLDIERS, TOO.

10:34 - GENERAL BUFORD, WHAT WAS THE

10:35 - FIRST ORDER THAT GOT YOU ON THE

10:38 - ROAD TO GETTYSBURG?

10:42 - >>REORGANIZE THE CALVARY INTO A

10:43 - SEPARATE AND JOHN CORE UP UNTIL

10:46 - THAT TIME, EVERY CORE HAD A

10:47 - SEPARATE CAVALRY UNIT WITH IT.

10:52 - RESTRUCTURED AND MADE THE

10:54 - CALVARY ALL PART OF ONE CORE ON

10:54 - THE FIRST UNDER GENERAL

10:56 - STONEMAN AND THEN GENERAL

10:59 - PLEASANT THING.

11:01 - BUT AFTER CHANCELLORSVILLE WHEN

11:02 - YOU KNOW SOME CALORIES, PRIMARY

11:04 - PURPOSE WAS IN FACT SCOUTING

11:06 - AND DOING RECONNAISSANCE WORK.

11:12 - WE REPORTED THAT MAJOR ELEMENTS

11:13 - OF THE ARMY OF NORTHERN

11:14 - VIRGINIA, WE'RE LEAVING THE

11:14 - CHANCELLORSVILLE AREA STARTING

11:18 - TO HEAD TOWARDS THE SHENANDOAH

11:18 - VALLEY AND THAT'S WHEN HOOKER

11:21 - TASK ME.

11:22 - WITH THE TRACKING KNOWING

11:26 - EXACTLY WHERE THE CONFEDERATE

11:27 - ARMY WAS IN RECENT REPORTS BACK

11:29 - EVERY DAY WITH OUR FINDINGS.

11:32 - WE FOLLOW RIGHT ALONG ALL ALONG

11:33 - THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY ALL THE

11:36 - WAY AND THE PENNSYLVANIA

11:38 - SKIRMISH SEVERAL TIMES. THIS

11:38 - FACT THAT HELD ABOUT A LITTLE

11:39 - FRIENDLY STATION OCCURRED TOO.

11:42 - ABOUT 2 CURRENT MCCANDLESS FOR

11:44 - YOU. GENERAL BUFORD, FIRST OF

11:45 - ALL, EVER ON THE FIELD AT THE

11:46 - SAME TIME IN GETTYSBURG, KNOW

11:48 - WE WERE NOT.

11:49 - >>SO TALK. TELL US ABOUT THE

11:50 - ORDER THAT GOT YOU MOVING TO

11:51 - GETTYSBURG. OKAY. WELL, LET ME

11:56 - START WITH WASHINGTON CITY

11:58 - AFTER FREDRICKSBURG. I'M IN THE

12:00 - DIVISION OF THE PENNSYLVANIA

12:01 - RESERVES. AFTER FREDRICKSBURG

12:02 - WE WERE SENT TO.

12:04 - >>RESTON RECRUIT IN WASHINGTON

12:07 - AND IT WASN'T UNTIL JUNE OF

12:11 - THAT YEAR. THAT SOME OF THE

12:11 - SOLDIERS IN OUR UNIT HEARD THAT

12:15 - THE NORTH WAS TRAVELING

12:16 - AND HEADING IN THE DIRECTION OF

12:19 - PENNSYLVANIA AND THEY WANTED TO

12:19 - JOIN THE UNION ARMY TO DEFEND.

12:25 - THEIR STATE. SO THANK PETITIONS

12:27 - ME TO DO THAT. AND I SENT THEIR

12:29 - REQUEST UP THROUGH THE RANKS

12:32 - AND MY REQUEST WENT TO BOTH

12:34 - GENERAL JOHN REYNOLDS AND

12:38 - GENERAL GEORGE MEADE AND BOTH

12:38 - OF THEM WANTED TO PENNSYLVANIA

12:40 - RESERVES IN THEIR CORE. THAT

12:41 - WAS GENERAL GEORGE ME. THAT

12:45 - ENDED UP HAVING A SO WE LEFT

12:47 - WASHINGTON AT NOT A ALL OF THAT

12:48 - RESERVES IN WASHINGTON. THERE

12:52 - ARE 3, WE'RE GAUGE THEIR.

12:53 - SO THE FIRST BRIGADE OF THE

12:53 - 3RD BRIGADE LEFT THE SECOND

12:56 - BRIGADE STATE FOR THE DEFENSES

12:59 - OF WASHINGTON AND IT WASN'T

13:01 - UNTIL JUNE 25TH THAT WE REACHED

13:06 - THE UNION ARMY AND IT WAS JULY

13:08 - FIRST ABOUT 02:00PM. WE

13:09 - ACTUALLY REACHED PENNSYLVANIA

13:15 - STATELINE, WE BELIEVE WILL ACT

13:16 - FOR A WHILE. AND THEN IN THE

13:17 - MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT ON A EARLY

13:21 - JULY 2ND, WE WERE TOLD TO MOVE

13:25 - OUT. WE HEADED TOWARDS.

13:27 - HOWEVER AND WENT THROUGH HAD

13:27 - EVER MIX SHERRY'S TOWN HEADED

13:29 - WEST AND WE ENDED UP ON

13:30 - BALTIMORE PIKE NEAR ROCK CREEK

13:34 - WHERE WE REQUESTED FOR SEVERAL

13:35 - HOURS. WE WE ARRIVED THERE

13:36 - ABOUT 01:00PM ON ON JULY.

13:39 - 2ND.

13:39 - GETTYSBURG. THAT IS THAT'S IN

13:42 - GETTYSBURG. YES.

13:43 - I DON'T MEAN THAT. IN ADDITION

13:45 - TO GETTING PHONE CALLS WERE

13:46 - GETTING TEXTS FROM OUR VIEWERS,

13:47 - I WANT TO SHARE ONE OF THEM

13:49 - WITH YOU.

13:49 - >>READS AS FOLLOWS, DO YOUR

13:52 - BEST ARTILLERY COMMANDERS ON

13:53 - THE BATTLEFIELD. GENERAL

13:54 - BUFORD, HAVEN'T YOU?

13:57 - >>WHILE IT HAD TO?

13:58 - ONE SMALL BATTERY, OF COURSE,

14:00 - HER KILLER WITH ME HOLD.

14:02 - WE HAD 6 KALLANDS IN. I WAS

14:03 - IT WAS ALL WE HAD WITHIN THE

14:07 - DIVISION OF CALVARY INFANTRY.

14:08 - REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE, KILLER

14:11 - MORE MORE POSITION THAN

14:12 - FOLLOWING THE INFANTRY CORPS.

14:18 - >>LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR PRIMARY

14:19 - MODE OF TRANSPORTATION IN THOSE

14:20 - DAYS. I MEAN, DECADES BEFORE

14:21 - THE AUTOMOBILE, YOU HAVE TO

14:22 - RELY ON YOUR HEARTS AND YOUR.

14:24 - IT REALLY PROBABLY HAD AN

14:25 - IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP WITH

14:26 - YOUR HORSE. TANYA COLONEL, CAN

14:29 - LET YOU CARE TO COMMENT ON

14:30 - THAT.

14:33 - >>WELL, I WANT TO MAKE GUY

14:33 - FRIENDS WITH MY HORSE TOO MUCH

14:36 - BECAUSE AT

14:38 - FREDRICKSBURG I I LOST A HORSE

14:39 - THERE. AND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO

14:41 - BECOME TOO CLOSE TO HIM.

14:44 - AND THAT WAS GOT SHOT

14:45 - IN BATTLE. YES, IT WAS. IT WAS

14:45 - KILLED AND AT FREDRICKSBURG,

14:48 - YES.

14:50 - >>I HAD 2 PRIMARY HORSES THAT I

14:53 - WAS WRITING.

14:56 - AND IN JUNE AND JULY OF 63,

14:59 - ONE OF THEM WAS NAMED GRAY GO.

15:01 - I'VE LOST A HORSE THAT SECOND

15:04 - MASSES. I GOT A HOLD OF MY

15:05 - COUSIN. MY ABRAHAM BUFORD IN

15:06 - KENTUCKY WAS THE BEST OF THEIR

15:07 - BREAD GREATER THERE. YOU ALSO

15:11 - HAPPEN TO BE A CONFEDERATE

15:12 - CALVARY GENERAL. I GOT A

15:14 - MESSAGE TO HIM AND BY NEED A

15:15 - HORSE, YOU GOT ANYTHING THE

15:16 - SENATE, YOUR PLACE. AND I GOT A

15:18 - MESSAGE BACK FROM A COUSIN.

15:19 - HE SAID, YEAH, IF YOU CAN GET

15:19 - TO KENTUCKY, PICK OUT ANY HORSE

15:23 - YOU WANT AND THEN WE'LL SETTLE

15:26 - UP AFTER THIS LITTLE ARGUMENT

15:28 - OVER. SO THAT HORSE'S NAME GREY

15:28 - GO. LET'S TACKLE THE HORSE ARE

15:29 - REALLY GOING TO GET IN FOR DON

15:32 - AND WAS WAS ALWAYS MY FAVORITE

15:32 - COURSE. WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A

15:34 - YEAR OR SO 11 THING.

15:37 - >>AND

15:39 - IT IS.

15:40 - >>IF YOU KNOW WHO YOU START

15:42 - LOOKING THROUGH INVENTORY AND

15:43 - QUARTER MASTER REPORTS, IT

15:43 - APPEARS AS THOUGH THE UNION

15:47 - ARMY HAD.

15:47 - >>AROUND 75,000 HORSES AND

15:49 - MULES ACCOMPANYING THE ARMY

15:52 - GETTYSBURG.

15:54 - >>LET'S TAKE ANOTHER PHONE

15:55 - CALL. THIS ONE IS FROM THE

15:56 - COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA. PAUL,

15:59 - YOU'RE ON PCN.

15:59 - >>YES, I WANTED AS A WHOLE.

16:05 - BUFORD GET. SO, YES, I WANT

16:07 - THAT SHARE ALL.

16:10 - >>A FEW

16:10 - ARE WARY. WELL, WE'RE HERE TO

16:12 - OUR ACTION WITH GENERAL

16:13 - REYNOLDS THAT WHERE WAS HE WHEN

16:15 - HE WAS SHOT?

16:18 - >>OKAY. WE'LL REPEAT THE

16:19 - QUESTION, PLEASE. THE QUESTION

16:20 - WAS, WHERE WERE YOU WHEN

16:24 - REYNOLDS WAS SHOT ABOUT 10 FEET

16:25 - AWAY FROM HIM AND TO ALSO TELL

16:27 - US ABOUT RENTALS AND HIS RANK

16:29 - AND HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU.

16:30 - REYNOLDS WAS ONE OF MY BEST

16:32 - FRIENDS. HE WAS A MAJOR GENERAL

16:35 - IN NOT ONLY WAS THE FIRST CORE

16:36 - COMMANDER, BUT HE HAD THE FIRST

16:37 - 3RD AND 5TH CORPS LONGER HIS

16:38 - WING COMMAND.

16:42 - >>AND THEN THE GETTYSBURG.

16:44 - WANTS AND FROM TREE FINALLY

16:45 - ARRIVED LATE MORNING ON JULY.

16:48 - FIRST TO GIVE US SOME SUPPORT

16:51 - BECAUSE MY MY CALVARY WILL

16:51 - ABOUT AND WE WERE TRYING TO

16:56 - HOLD OFF WELL, 20,000, A

16:58 - CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS FROM

16:59 - GETTING INTO GETTYSBURG AND

16:59 - TAKING THE GOOD GROUND SOUTH

17:03 - OF TOWN. SO THIS IS A VERY

17:04 - WELCOME TO SEE THAT 1ST QUARTER

17:05 - SHOW UP AND AROUND THE WORLD.

17:09 - HE WAS GIVING INSTRUCTIONS AS

17:10 - FAR AS DEPLOYMENT OF SOME OF

17:13 - THE BRIGADES IN

17:14 - THAT FIRST FIRST CORE HELP SOME

17:15 - OF THE DIVISIONS BUT MOSTLY

17:17 - BRIGADES.

17:20 - AND HE WAS SHOT WHEN IT'S NICE

17:21 - TO THINK MAYBE IT WAS A SHARP

17:24 - SHOOTER THAT SINGLE HIM OUT

17:25 - FROM THE CONFEDERATE SIDE.

17:26 - BUT THE ODDS ARE IT WAS JUST

17:27 - A STRAY BULLET THAT HAD BEEN

17:27 - FLYING THROUGH THE AIR. THEY

17:30 - CAUGHT HIM.

17:31 - >>COMIC ANALYSTS WHEN YOU GOT

17:32 - TO GETTYSBURG, WHAT ARE YOUR

17:34 - OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE TERRAIN

17:36 - AND WHAT THE ADVANTAGES OR

17:37 - DISADVANTAGES THAT MY PRESENT

17:40 - TO YOUR MONEY?

17:43 - >>WHEN WE GOT THERE, WE WERE

17:44 - SOMEWHAT IN THE VALLEY ON

17:45 - BALTIMORE PIKE SURROUNDED BY

17:48 - HILLS

17:50 - I DIDN'T KNOW THE NAMES OF

17:52 - THESE HILLS AT FIRST BECAUSE

17:53 - I'VE NEVER BEEN THE GETTYSBURG

17:56 - BEFORE. SO I BUT NOTICE THAT

18:01 - THAT THAT. WHERE WE WERE WAS

18:01 - NOT A GOOD PLACE TO FIGHT, BUT

18:02 - WE ARE IN THE REAR OF THE UNION

18:04 - ARMY AT THAT TIME. ANYWAY, IT

18:05 - WASN'T UNTIL WE WERE ACTUALLY

18:09 - TOLD TO MOVE OUT AT ABOUT

18:12 - 04:00PM ON JULY. SECOND, 2,

18:13 - A PLACE THAT WAS NOW KNOWN AS

18:17 - A LITTLE ROUND TOP. THE 3RD

18:18 - BRIGADE UNDER JOE FISHER WENT

18:21 - TO THE LEFT TO SUPPORT.

18:23 - GENERAL ARE CURLED CHAMBERLAIN

18:24 - AND I WENT ON TO THE RIGHT HAND

18:28 - NORTH SLOPE OF LITTLE ROUND TOP

18:29 - THERE AND FROM LITTLE ROUND

18:31 - TOP, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN THERE,

18:36 - YOU CAN SEE QUITE A DISTANCE

18:36 - AND YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE

18:39 - FIELDS BEFORE YOU DO SO.

18:41 - HAVING THE HIGH CERTAINLY WAS

18:44 - AN ADVANTAGE FOR THE UNION

18:45 - ARMY. AND YOU MET THERE WAS A

18:48 - CONFEDERATE ATTACK. THEY'RE

18:49 - RIGHT. THERE CERTAINLY WAS.

18:51 - AND IT WAS A ATTACKED PRIOR TO

18:55 - OUR BRIGADE GETTING

18:56 - INTO POSITION. IT WAS HELD OFF

18:58 - BY LETTING GO UPHILL AT THAT

19:00 - POINT. YES, BECAUSE WE ARRIVED

19:00 - ON THE BACKSIDE OF LITTLE ROUND

19:02 - TOP. SO WE HAD ACTUALLY HAD TO

19:06 - GO UP A PILL TO REACH IT AND IT

19:08 - WE ALSO HAD THEY THEN GO DOWN

19:09 - HILL BECAUSE WE MADE A COUNTER

19:11 - CHARGE AGAINST THE APPROACHING

19:13 - CONFEDERATE. SO ACTUALLY ARE

19:15 - APPROACHED AND THEN REACH THE

19:18 - VERY BOTTOM OF LITTLE ROUND TOP

19:20 - BY THE TIME YOU ARE MEN WHO

19:22 - WERE RETREATING FROM THE WEAK

19:24 - FIELD, CLEARED OUR LINES.

19:28 - THAT'S WHEN WE BEGAN OUR

19:28 - ACTIONS WHICH STARTED OUT WITH

19:32 - A VOLLEY FROM OUR FIRST RANK

19:34 - INTO THE CONFEDERATES. PAT.

19:36 - AND THEN THAT ENDED UP IN 2

19:37 - A CHARGE AND COUNTER CHARGE

19:42 - DOWN THE SLOPE OF LITTLE ROUND

19:44 - TOP CHASING THE CONFEDERATES

19:46 - BACK AND UP THE HILL THAT WAS

19:47 - IN FRONT OF US TO A STONE WALL

19:49 - WHERE THERE WAS SO MUCH HEAVY

19:51 - FIGHTING, INCLUDING HAND TO

19:53 - HAND ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE OR

19:55 - HOW MANY MEN, RATHER FROM YEAR

19:57 - FORCES WERE CHASING THOSE

20:00 - CONFEDERATES DOWN NOW? WELL,

20:02 - WASN'T JUST MY BRIGADE. THERE

20:04 - WAS THE 90RD PENCIL YOU AND

20:05 - ENJOYING THAT. THAT RIGHT.

20:06 - AND I ALSO SOME REGIMENTS FROM

20:08 - THE 6 CORE ON OUR ON OUR RIGHT.

20:12 - AND WE HAD.

20:13 - 6, I'M SORRY, 5 REGIMENTS WITH

20:16 - US.

20:18 - PROBABLY 8 REGIMENT MIGHT HAVE

20:19 - HAD MAYBE 400 TO 450 MEN.

20:22 - EACH.

20:23 - ALL RIGHT. LET'S TAKE SOME MORE

20:25 - PHONE CALLS. A GENTLEMAN.

20:25 - THIS ONE IS FROM POTTSVILLE.

20:29 - TOM HERE ON PCN.

20:32 - >>IT'S EASY FOR GENERAL BUFORD.

20:33 - DON'T IF YOU SERVE UNDER A

20:36 - SEVERAL COMMANDER IN THE

20:37 - ARMY POTOMAC LIKE ENOUGH TO

20:39 - HAVE A PERHAPS AS YOU HAVE WHEN

20:40 - YOU REALLY DIDN'T ENJOY SERVING

20:42 - UNDER.

20:43 - A QUESTION.

20:46 - >>WHERE WOULD BE ENOUGH

20:47 - INAPPROPRIATE FOR AREA

20:48 - BRIGADIER NEVER CRITICIZE A

20:49 - MAJOR GENERAL. SO I'M PROBABLY

20:50 - NOT GOING TO DO THAT. BUT I

20:53 - WILL TELL YOU,

20:54 - GENERAL STONEMAN WASN'T

20:55 - EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD CORE

20:57 - COMMANDER, ONE OF MY BEST

21:01 - FRIENDS AND I WAS VERY SADDENED

21:03 - WHEN HE WAS RELIEVED FROM HIS

21:03 - POSITION AND REPLACED BY

21:05 - GENERAL PLEASANTON. WHAT MADE

21:06 - HIM STAND OUT IN YOUR MIND?

21:07 - GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF HIS

21:07 - PERFORMANCE THAT IMPRESSED YOU.

21:11 - >>HE WAS GOOD AT FOLLOWING

21:13 - ORDERS BECAUSE HE WASN'T THE

21:14 - HIGHEST RANKING OFFICER IN THE

21:15 - UNION ARMY, EVEN THOUGH HE WAS

21:16 - THE TICK EVERY QUARTER

21:18 - COMMANDER.

21:19 - THEY DID WHAT HE WAS TOLD TO

21:22 - DO, EVEN IF IT WAS IN, YOU CAN

21:23 - GO TO ORDER FROM DANIELS

21:25 - HOOKER. CAROL HOOKER TO MAKE

21:30 - SOME RAGE. THEY WERE RIDICULOUS

21:31 - CAMPS THAT HE WAS ORDERED TO

21:33 - DO. BUT HE WENT AHEAD AND DID

21:35 - IT. I DID NOT TURN OUT WELL.

21:37 - AND THAT'S WHY YOU GOT RELIEVED

21:38 - FROM COMMAND. BUT IT WAS IN

21:39 - FACT DOING EXACTLY WHAT THE

21:41 - HOOKER ASK HIM TO DO. HE WAS

21:44 - VERY DILIGENT WITH 4 FOLLOWING

21:47 - ORDERS.

21:49 - HE WHETHER HE DISAGREED OR NOT,

21:52 - BUT HE WENT AHEAD AND

21:54 - DID IT WOULD MODIFY IF

21:55 - NECESSARY BASED ON THE

21:58 - CIRCUMSTANCES AT HAND. BUT

22:01 - STONE WAS HONORABLE. HE WAS

22:02 - TRUSTWORTHY. IT WAS NOT

22:03 - FLAMBOYANT. HE WAS NOT OUT TO

22:06 - SERVE HIM SELF OR TO MAKE

22:06 - HIMSELF FAMOUS. GENERAL

22:08 - PLEASANT ON. ON THE OTHER HAND

22:10 - WAS A LITTLE MORE CONCERNED

22:13 - ABOUT.

22:14 - WHOA, WHOA. STORIES IN THE

22:15 - NEWSPAPERS WERE WRITTEN ABOUT

22:17 - AND HOW EFFECTIVE HIS ACTIONS

22:21 - ACTUALLY WORK.

22:22 - >>COLONEL MCCANDLESS, LET'S GO

22:23 - BACK TO THE CONFRONTATION.

22:24 - YOU HAVE A CONFEDERATE ON

22:26 - LITTLE ROUND TOP.

22:27 - AND IT SOUNDED DRAMATIC.

22:30 - YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH GOING UP

22:31 - THE HILL AND THEN YOU CHASE THE

22:32 - CONFEDERATES. ASKED ABOUT HOW

22:34 - MANY MEN WERE INVOLVED. HOW

22:36 - ABOUT TAKING PRISONERS? IS THAT

22:37 - SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED AT THAT

22:38 - STAGE? AND IF SO, HOW MANY MEN

22:39 - WERE TAKEN PRISONER AND WHAT

22:41 - YOU DO WITH THEM?

22:44 - >>WELL, WE DIDN'T TAKE ANY

22:45 - PRISONERS PER SE AND THAT FIRST

22:49 - ACTION. IT WASN'T UNTIL

22:50 - JULY 3RD AND OUR SECOND ACTION

22:53 - THAT WE DID. WHAT WE THOUGHT

22:53 - WAS THAT LITTLE AROUND KNOW

22:54 - THAT WAS A DIFFERENT LOCATION

22:56 - THAT WAS AND ROSES. WOODS WAS

23:00 - CALLED ROSES. WOODS PLAN WE

23:02 - HAVE WERE ORDERED TO CLEAR THE

23:02 - WOODS THAT WAS IN FRONT OF US.

23:06 - AND IN DOING SO. WE CAME ACROSS

23:09 - THE 15TH, GEORGIA.

23:12 - NEVER GOT THE ORDERS TO PULL

23:15 - BACK. AND THAT.

23:16 - CONFRONTATION WE CAPTURED ABOUT

23:21 - 200 CONFEDERATES HAVE INCLUDING

23:21 - THEIR CURRENT ALL HAND THEIR

23:24 - FLAG.

23:25 - CAPTURING THEIR FLAG RESULTED

23:27 - IN THE MEDAL OF HONOR AWARD.

23:31 - AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION

23:34 - ABOUT WHAT WE DO USUALLY HAVE

23:35 - SOME OF THE MEN IN THE RANKS TO

23:38 - GO BACK WITH THEM, TAKE THEIR

23:40 - ARMAMENTS FROM AND CAN TAKE

23:43 - THEM TO THE REAR.

23:46 - GENERAL BUFORD FOR YOU. WHAT

23:47 - WAS THE CLIMAX OF THE ACTION?

23:50 - >>AT GETTYSBURG

23:54 - >>OVER THE BEST FEELING WE HAVE

23:55 - THE ENTIRE TIME WAS ONE.

23:56 - SO REYNOLDS 1ST QUARTER FINALLY

23:58 - SHOWED UP.

24:01 - FOR SEVERAL DAYS. I'VE BEEN

24:03 - SENDING THE MESSAGES BACK TO

24:05 - REYNOLDS AND MEAN AND BEFORE

24:08 - MEAT HOOK OR

24:12 - NEW VOTER ARMY IS IS

24:13 - CONCENTRATING SOMEWHERE AROUND

24:17 - CASH TOWN MULES. FURTHER NORTH,

24:18 - ALONG CHURCH LITTLE BEHIND.

24:19 - BUT THEY'RE GOING TO COUNT

24:21 - CONCENTRATED AROUND CASH TOWN

24:24 - ALL THE TIME.

24:25 - WE ROLLED HIM. THAT'S BERGEN

24:26 - ROAD. IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT HIGH

24:28 - GROUND SOUTH OF GETTYSBURG WAS

24:32 - THE PLACE TO HAVE THE BATTLE.

24:33 - THAT WAS THE MESSAGE IS I SENT

24:38 - A SETBACK AND I HAD TO ASK FOR

24:39 - PERMISSION FROM REYNOLDS AND

24:41 - THEN MADE.

24:42 - I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE BOTTLE

24:45 - HERE.

24:47 - I WILL GET THE CONFEDERATE ARMY

24:50 - HERE WILL ENGAGE THEM. BUT YOU

24:51 - HAVE TO GET TO THAT HIGH GROUND

24:52 - SOUTH OF KAUAI CAN HOLD THEM

24:53 - OFF NORTH AND WEST OF TOWN FOR

24:59 - A WHILE. AGAIN ONLY HAVE A

25:00 - COUPLE 1000 OF MY ENTIRE

25:03 - DIVISION WITH MANDATE TO FULL

25:03 - CONFEDERATE COURT ACT. THIS IS

25:04 - NOTHING WE COULD DO.

25:07 - FORTUNATELY, REYNOLDS

25:09 - SHOWED UP BY LATE MORNING AND

25:10 - GENERAL HOWARD WITH 11 COURT

25:10 - BY SOMETIME AROUND NOON.

25:13 - SO WE WERE ABLE TO HOLD HOLD A

25:15 - CONFEDERATE OUT LONG ENOUGH

25:16 - FOR THE REST OF THE ARMY TO

25:20 - CONCENTRATE ON THE CEMETERY

25:20 - HILL AND THE RIDGE SOUTH OF

25:24 - >>HERE'S A PHONE CALL FROM

25:25 - KENNETT SQUARE TIME HERE ON

25:27 - PCN.

25:29 - >>THANK YOU, LARRY. THIS IS ALL

25:33 - FOR THE COLONEL. AFTER

25:33 - CAPTURING THE 200 PRISONERS

25:34 - FROM THE CONFEDERATE APPLY.

25:39 - WANT TO GET THE QLINE THE

25:39 - PROMOTION TO MAJOR GENERAL.

25:44 - >>WELL, THAT OCCURRED LATER IN

25:47 - AFTER MY THREE-YEAR COMMITMENT

25:50 - WAS UP.

25:51 - NOT NECESSARILY RIGHT AFTER

25:53 - GETTYSBURG, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR

25:56 - QUESTION. I WROTE A LETTER TO

25:58 - THE ADJUTANT GENERAL. AND IN

26:02 - THE LETTER IT. SAID.

26:04 - THOSE PEOPLE WHO ADMINISTER

26:09 - THIS GOVERNMENT. MUSTS.

26:10 - RE ADOPT THE ORIGINAL AND

26:13 - TENSION.

26:16 - OF PROSECUTING THIS WAR.

26:20 - AND RESTORING THE AND RESTORING

26:24 - THE UNION. AND UNTIL THAT TIME,

26:26 - I WOULD NOT RETURN TO THE ARMY

26:29 - OR ACCEPT A PROMOTION, BUT

26:30 - RATHER GO BACK TO THE PRIVATE

26:33 - STATION.

26:36 - WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS I WASN'T

26:37 - IN FAVOR OF THE PRODUCT AND

26:38 - THAT'S A PATIENT PROCLAMATION.

26:39 - AND AND FIGHTING FOR FREEING

26:42 - SLAVES.

26:44 - >>DID IT EVER BECOME APPARENT

26:47 - TO YOU? GENERAL BUFORD DURING

26:48 - THE THREE-DAY BATTLING

26:48 - GETTYSBURG THAT THIS WOULD BE

26:51 - SOMETHING WE WOULD REFER TO

26:51 - EVENTUALLY AS A TURNING POINT

26:52 - IN THE WAR. WHAT KIND OF

26:56 - PROGRESS DID YOU FEEL FOR THE

26:59 - NORTH AS THE BATTLE TRANSPIRED.

27:00 - ACTUALLY, I FELT THAT BEFORE

27:00 - THE BATTLE EVEN STARTED THAT IF

27:03 - WE COULD GET.

27:03 - >>BOTH FULL ARMY'S ENGAGED IN

27:06 - ONE SPOT.

27:06 - I THINK THE CONFEDERATES FELT

27:10 - THE SAME WAY. THIS WOULD BE THE

27:13 - MAJOR BATTLE OF THE WAR.

27:14 - JUST YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE

27:16 - SHEER NUMBERS OF RIGHT, IF WE

27:19 - CAN, IF WE COULD GET BOTH

27:19 - ARMIES MAST IN ONE SPOT AND IF

27:20 - THE ARMY OF THE POTOMAC COULD

27:23 - HAVE THAT THE BEST SPOT, A GOOD

27:24 - GROUND AND BEGIN AND FIGHTER

27:27 - DEFENSIVE BATTLE WITH THE

27:30 - POSITIONING FROM CEMETERY HILL

27:30 - DOWN THE RIDGE LINE TO LITTLE

27:33 - ROUND TOP.

27:35 - I'M SOMEWHAT ADEQUATE ARTILLERY

27:38 - SUPPORT. THERE'S NO WAY.

27:39 - THE LEE'S ARMY OF NORTHERN

27:41 - VIRGINIA OF 75,000 MEN COULD

27:44 - PUSH US.

27:46 - WELL. THAT WAS 120,000 UNION.

27:47 - SOLDIERS IS NO WAY THAT COULD

27:50 - PUSH US OFF AT RIDGE. WELL, IT

27:51 - WOULD BE A CATACLYSMIC BATTLE

27:53 - WHEN

27:55 - OF THEM CUR A-MACH ANALYSTS

27:56 - WILL KIND OF EXPERIENCE THAT

27:57 - IT MEAN FOR YOU AS AS A

28:01 - RELATIVELY YOUNG MAN.

28:03 - >>GOING TO WAR IN GETTYSBURG

28:04 - AND ALL OBVIOUS IS CARNAGE.

28:09 - THERE'S NOISE MAYBE ON A SCOPE

28:10 - THAT IT NEVER WITNESS BEFORE.

28:12 - WHAT KIND OF IMPRESSION THAT

28:13 - THIS EPIC BATTLE MAKE ON YOU AT

28:16 - THE TIME?

28:20 - >>AS YOU SAID, I WASN'T USED TO

28:20 - THE CARNAGE AND THE NOISE.

28:23 - I WAS

28:25 - A LAWYER FROM PHILADELPHIA.

28:26 - EXACTLY. AND SO IT DID COME

28:27 - AS SOMEWHAT OF A SURPRISE TO

28:30 - ME. BUT

28:31 - I VOLUNTEERED TO PRESERVE THE

28:34 - UNION AND SO.

28:36 - HAD A COMMITMENT TO DO MY DUTY

28:39 - REGARDLESS OF WHAT MY POLITICAL

28:42 - BELIEFS MIGHT BE. I MADE A

28:43 - COMMITMENT FOR 3 YEARS AND I

28:46 - WAS GOING TO COMMIT TO THOSE

28:47 - 3 YEARS AND AND STAY IN THE

28:50 - ARMY AND DO WHAT I WAS. ASKED

28:55 - TO DO, DO WHAT THE MEN ELECTED

28:58 - ME AS OFFICER TO DO. AND SO

29:01 - THAT'S WHAT KEPT ME GOING.

29:03 - DESPITE BEING WOUNDED TWICE

29:06 - AND BEING CAPTURED ONCE AND

29:10 - AND AND ESCAPING FROM THE THAT

29:14 - CAPTURE. I STILL KEPT ON GOING

29:15 - JUST AS MARY BY CAPTURE.

29:15 - TAKE PLACE TELLS ACTUALLY ABOUT

29:16 - THAT AT THE WORLD ARE BATTLE OF

29:17 - THE WILDERNESS. THEY WERE

29:20 - SOMEWHERE. WE'VE GOTTEN

29:22 - TO EXACTLY. AND VIRGINIA TIME

29:24 - NEAR CHANCELLORSVILLE THIS

29:25 - BEFORE AFTER GETTYSBURG AFTER

29:29 - AND THERE WAS A MUCH CHAOS

29:30 - BECAUSE IT WAS CALLED THE

29:31 - WILLINGNESS BECAUSE OF A LOT OF

29:33 - THE BRUSH AND TREES THAT WERE

29:39 - ON THE FIELD AND THERE WAS SO

29:40 - MUCH CHAOS GOING ON WITH THAT.

29:41 - THAT TOWERS ABLE TO ESCAPE.

29:43 - I RAN A GAUNTLET THROUGH THE

29:44 - CONFEDERATES HAD TO SAFETY.

29:49 - WHAT KIND OF IMPRESSION THAT

29:50 - ALL THIS NOISE AND VIOLENCE

29:53 - HAVE ON GENERAL DIFFERENT.

29:54 - >>WELL, CERTAINLY IN NOWHERE

29:55 - NEAR THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN

29:59 - IN COMBAT

30:00 - SHORTLY AFTER GRADUATING FROM

30:03 - WEST POINT WAS IN COMBAT

30:04 - SITUATIONS. PRETTY ROUGH

30:05 - FREQUENTLY AND REGULARLY

30:09 - THROUGHOUT MY CAREER FROM 18.

30:09 - 48 LEADING UP TO THE OPENING OF

30:11 - THE CIVIL WAR. THE FACT THAT

30:18 - MY DIVISION HAD THE MAIN ISSUE

30:20 - DOLLS, ALL SINGLE SHOT BRIDGE,

30:24 - LOADING. CAR BEANS.

30:25 - SO WE COULD NOW AND STILL GET.

30:29 - ENOUGH SHOTS OFF PER MINUTE TO

30:30 - MAKE THE CONFEDERATES THINK

30:34 - THAT WE WERE A MUCH LARGER

30:36 - INFANTRY UNIT FOR BECAUSE WE

30:38 - COULD SHOOT SO MUCH MORE

30:38 - RAPIDLY WITH THOSE BREACH

30:39 - MOTORS AND WHAT INFANTRY WITH

30:42 - MOBILE ORDERS COME TRUE.

30:44 - WELL, IT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE

30:44 - AND HELP OUT SUPERIOR WEAPONS,

30:50 - RED AND IN THE THAT WAS A HUGE

30:52 - THING AND CONFEDERATE THE

30:52 - MORNING OF JULY FIRST REALIZED

30:56 - IT WAS ONLY A COUPLE 1000 THIS

30:57 - MOUNTED CALVARY MONTH FACING US

31:01 - AND A MOVE MUCH FASTER AND THEY

31:03 - HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ROLL OVER TOP

31:03 - OF US. THAT WAS REALLY THE THE

31:05 - BIG MESSAGE WAS TO LEARN HOW

31:09 - TO FIGHT AS AND LEARN HOW TO

31:13 - FIGHT AS INFANTRY. ALSO.

31:14 - >>PHONE CALL FROM A BLOOMSBURG,

31:15 - PENNSYLVANIA, MIKE IRAN PCN.

31:19 - >>WELL, HELLO.

31:22 - >>UNLIKE ASK A QUESTION.

31:23 - >>OH, YEAH. THIS QUESTION IS

31:24 - FOR BOTH THE COLONEL IN GENERAL

31:29 - I UNDERSTAND.

31:31 - WELL, AFTER 20 YEARS AFTER THE

31:33 - POTATO FAMINE IN IRELAND, THERE

31:34 - WOULD HAVE BEEN A LARGE INFLUX

31:38 - OF. OF.

31:41 - PEOPLE ESCAPING ABOUT. AND NOW

31:43 - HERE AT THIS POINT IN TIME HOW

31:48 - YOU DEAL WITH THE

31:49 - MANY EUROPEAN RIVALS THAT ARE

31:52 - STILL COMING FROM BOTH OUR LAND

31:54 - AND FROM THE PERSIAN EMPIRE.

31:54 - AND FROM FURTHER EAST AND

31:58 - EUROPE IN HIM, IT'S PROBABLY

31:58 - COMING GOING TO BE COMING FROM

32:01 - RUSSIA AS WELL. ARE YOU

32:02 - ENCOURAGING THEM TO COME?

32:03 - ARE THEY OFFERED AMERICAN

32:06 - CITIZENSHIP?

32:10 - >>KERN COUNTY COMMENT.

32:11 - WELL, MY MY TROOPS OR WEREN'T

32:15 - TO FROM

32:16 - ANOTHER COUNTRY. THEY WERE THEY

32:17 - WERE FROM PHILADELPHIA. THEY

32:21 - WERE ALL FROM PENNSYLVANIA AND

32:23 - AND THEY WERE NOT UNNECESSARILY

32:24 - IMMIGRANTS. BY THE TIME THE WAR

32:28 - BROKE OUT TO ANSWER THE

32:29 - QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY WERE

32:32 - ENCOURAGED TO COME.

32:35 - I CAN'T I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER

32:36 - THAT QUESTION. WASN'T INVOLVED

32:38 - IN A WAY OF IMMIGRATION AT THAT

32:40 - TIME. YES, YES, BUT I HAVE TO

32:41 - SAY THAT THEY WHEN THEY DID

32:42 - COME, THEY WENT BOTH TO THE

32:45 - NORTH AND THE SOUTH.

32:49 - AND IT WAS A WAY.

32:51 - TO GET SAID AND HAVE A PAYCHECK

32:53 - EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE RISKING

32:54 - THEIR LIVES TO DO IT TO SUPPORT

32:57 - THEIR FAMILIES.

32:59 - I HAD NO FOREIGN BORN TROOPS IN

33:01 - MY DIVISION EITHER. BUT

33:04 - >>IT IS NOTABLE THAT.

33:07 - HOW MUCH IMMIGRATION WAS

33:08 - OCCURRING IN SPITE OF OUR OWN

33:11 - CIVIL WAR AND

33:13 - CIVIL DISCORD. EUROPEANS WERE

33:13 - STILL COMING HERE AND THE UNION

33:16 - ARMY HAD A PRETTY GOOD METHOD

33:19 - OF ENLISTING

33:20 - IMMIGRANTS. BUT SOON AS THEY

33:22 - GOT OFF THE BOAT AND NEW YORK

33:23 - CITY, THEY WOULD LET THEM KNOW

33:23 - THEY HAD JUST VOLUNTEERED FOR

33:28 - THE UNION ARMY AND AS GENERAL

33:29 - POWELL TALKING ANNOUNCEMENT,

33:29 - THE RECEIVER. YEAH. YEAH.

33:33 - WELL, YOU'RE YOU ARE.

33:36 - >>NOW A UNION SOLDIER FOSSILS

33:37 - LOANS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE

33:38 - RIGHT, BUT THEY HAD A PRETTY

33:39 - GOOD RECRUITING SYSTEM GOING

33:42 - TO BRING FOREIGN BORN NUMBER

33:43 - SOLDIERS IN AS INFANTRY.

33:46 - I HAVE

33:47 - TO ADD.

33:47 - >>THAT I AM AN IMMIGRANT

33:51 - MYSELF. I I WAS BORN IN IRELAND

33:55 - CAME FROM ISLAND. YES, CAME TO

33:56 - WIRE THE CIRCUMSTANCES. THEN I

33:57 - I DON'T KNOW. I WAS ONLY 6.

33:58 - YOU'RE A LITTLE KID. YES.

34:01 - AND AND

34:05 - I KNOW MY PARENTS CAME TOOK

34:06 - TOOK ME TO PHILADELPHIA WHEN

34:06 - ARE AS YOUNG, BUT THEY DIED.

34:08 - YOUNG BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

34:12 - BEING AN IRISHMAN AND THE CITY

34:17 - WASN'T HIGH. THE MOST FAVORABLE

34:19 - THING. IT'S A MATTER OF FACT.

34:21 - I NEVER TOLD ANYONE EVEN THE

34:24 - MILITARY THAT I WAS BORN

34:24 - IN IRELAND, MY RECORDS STATE

34:25 - THAT I WAS BORN IN

34:28 - PHILADELPHIA.

34:30 - >>DOWN AND VIEWERS, I'M GONNA

34:31 - GIVE YOU A BREAK JUST FOR A

34:32 - MINUTE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO

34:33 - LOOK AT PROGRAM NOTES FOR HERE

34:36 - ON PCN.

34:41 - COMING UP NEXT, BRAND NEW

34:42 - BATTLE WALKS CONTINUE ON PCN

34:45 - RECORDED TODAY ON THE ACTUAL

34:47 - BATTLEFIELD IN GETTYSBURG.

34:48 - GET ALL THE DETAILS AT PCN TV

34:51 - DOT COM.

34:52 - AND GETTYSBURG BATTLE WALKS

34:54 - CONTINUE THROUGH THE 4TH OF

34:56 - JULY HOLIDAY ON PCN. SO AGAIN,

34:57 - JUST PLUG JUST A PLUGGED INTO

35:01 - PCN TV DOT COM FOR THE DETAILS.

35:05 - THE CONFEDERATION OF UNION

35:06 - GENERALS AND THE GENTLEMAN WITH

35:07 - US HERE TODAY REPRESENT THAT

35:11 - GROUP. WE'LL RETURN THE PCN OF

35:12 - THEY'LL PORTRAY CIVIL WAR

35:12 - FIGURES, INCLUDING MAJOR

35:15 - GENERAL DANIEL SICKLES

35:17 - MAJOR-GENERAL ABNER DOUBLEDAY

35:19 - AND OTHERS ON SUNDAY AT

35:22 - 10:00PM.

35:24 - PCN HAS BEEN BRINGING VIEWERS

35:25 - EXCLUSIVE PROGRAMMING ABOUT THE

35:28 - BATTLE OF GETTYSBURG SINCE

35:31 - 1995. EXPLORE THE ACTUAL

35:31 - BATTLEFIELD WITH PARK RANGERS.

35:34 - LISTEN TO HISTORIANS AND OFFERS

35:36 - AND THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME

35:38 - PLACE. WHEN YOU GET PC ENDS

35:40 - GETTYSBURG COLLECTION AND

35:41 - STREAM IT ON THE PCN SELECT

35:44 - APP.

35:46 - PCN IS EVERYTHING. PENNSYLVANIA

35:49 - WHERE A 501. C 3 NONPROFIT

35:50 - TELEVISION NETWORK THAT RELIES

35:52 - ON VIEWERS LIKE YOU TO MAKE

35:56 - A DONATION VISIT PCN TV DOT

35:58 - COM. NOW WE'RE TALKING WITH

36:00 - OUR GUESTS AND A COURTESY OF

36:02 - OUR TIME MACHINE HERE. PCN.

36:04 - THEY ARE BACK FROM 18, 63 IN

36:05 - THE BATTLE OF GETTYSBURG AND

36:09 - THEY'RE ANSWERING YOUR

36:12 - QUESTIONS. SO LET'S TAKE A CALL

36:13 - FROM NAZARETH, PENNSYLVANIA,

36:15 - NECK, IRAN PCN.

36:17 - >>A QUESTION FOR GENERAL BUFORD

36:22 - DID YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP

36:24 - WITH THE GENERAL LEE BEFORE

36:26 - GETTYSBURG AND YOUR PERCEPTION

36:27 - OF THEM? AND WHAT WAS YOUR

36:27 - PERCEPTION AFTER IS FURLOUGHED

36:28 - OR THE WARD JUST THANK YOU.

36:33 - >>NEVER SERVED DIRECTLY.

36:35 - WITH THE COLONEL LEE IN THE

36:38 - FEDERAL ARMY. I KNEW OF HIM.

36:39 - OF COURSE. I KNEW HIS

36:40 - REPUTATION FROM THE MEXICAN

36:42 - WAR.

36:44 - I ALSO WAS AWARE OF THE FACT

36:45 - THAT THROUGH PRESIDENT LINCOLN

36:46 - HAD BEEN OFFERED COMMENDABLE

36:47 - FEDERAL FORCES ON

36:50 - RECOMMENDATION OF GENERAL SCOTT

36:51 - WONDER, THOUGH, SAYING THAT,

36:53 - BUT I DID NOT KNOW HIM

36:55 - PERSONALLY. NONE OF HIS SONGS

36:57 - WERE AND MY WEST POINT CLOUSEAU

36:58 - DID NOT HAVE DIRECT CONNECTION

37:02 - WITH THE FAMILY. THERE'S NO

37:04 - DOUBT EVERYBODY WHO WAS A A

37:06 - CAREER MILITARY KNEW WHO

37:10 - CURRENTLY WAS STILL THERE.

37:12 - >>VIEWERS WILL BE TAKING YOUR

37:12 - QUESTIONS FOR ABOUT THE NEXT

37:17 - 20 MINUTES OR SO. 1, 8, 7, 7,

37:18 - PA 6, 5,001 IS THE NUMBER TO

37:19 - CALL OR IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT,

37:23 - TEXAS 7, 1, 7, 2, 1, 9, 4,001.

37:25 - NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO A

37:26 - JEFFERSON COUNTY AND LAURA,

37:29 - GO AHEAD.

37:34 - HELLO. HELLO, LARRY.

37:34 - WE'RE LISTENING.

37:35 - >>THANK YOU. THIS IS A QUESTION

37:39 - FOR EITHER GENTLEMAN. HOW DO

37:40 - YOU HANDLE KEEPING RECORDS ON

37:43 - THE FIELD? YOU'RE OUT IN

37:43 - THE OPEN. MAYBE YOU'RE ONLY A

37:46 - 10TH OF HOW DO YOU KEEP TRACK

37:47 - OF WRITING? LETTERS ARE KEEPING

37:50 - TRACK OF YOUR DAILY LOG AND

37:50 - THAT'S YOUR EYES. YOUR

37:52 - GENTLEMAN TO ANSWER.

37:53 - >>GENERAL, BE FOR YOU CARE TO

37:55 - GO FIRST.

37:58 - >>CERTAINLY ON DAYS THAT WERE

38:02 - NOT COMBAT FOCUSED.

38:06 - AS AN OFFICER HAD TIME TO WRITE

38:08 - UP REPORTS FROM THE SEVERAL

38:09 - PREVIOUS DAYS AND FILL IN SOME

38:11 - OF THE GAPS OF WHAT WOULD

38:11 - HAPPEN IF WE WERE TIED UP IN

38:13 - COMBAT DURING THAT TIME.

38:16 - I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT SOME

38:19 - POINT IN TIME YOUR MEMORY MAY

38:22 - NOT

38:23 - BE PERFECT OR IT'S ALTOGETHER

38:25 - POSSIBLE THAT YOUR PERCEPTION

38:27 - OF WHAT YOU SAW SPECIFICALLY

38:28 - MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT

38:31 - SOMEBODY?

38:31 - A QUARTER MILE AWAY MIGHT HAVE

38:34 - OBSERVED OR OR FELT BUT ALSO

38:39 - HAD THE ORDERLIES THAT WOULD DO

38:41 - SOME TRANSCRIBING FORCE AND

38:42 - KEEP RECORDS AND NOTES

38:44 - THROUGHOUT THE DAY IS ALSO

38:45 - ABOUT YOUR CURRENT MCCANDLESS.

38:46 - YET YOU'RE NODDING YOUR HEAD.

38:48 - ANY VARIATION ON THAT ROUTINE

38:49 - NOW. AND I WAS GOING TO TO

38:50 - AGREE WITH THAT. GENERAL BUFORD

38:53 - THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A.

38:54 - >>I JUST SENSE TO CARRY OUT

38:56 - ORDERS WILL WRITE OUT ORDERS TO

38:56 - THEM THAT AND THEY WILL CARRY

38:59 - IT OUT OFTEN TIMES THERE'S

39:02 - ORDERS ARE ARE CAPPED FOR THE

39:07 - RECORDS AND AS GENERAL BUFORD

39:08 - SAID, WE MAY NOT GET TO WRITE

39:11 - AN ACTION REPORT OF

39:12 - A BATTLE FOR MAYBE WEEKS TO

39:15 - MONTHS AFTER THE BATTLE.

39:17 - AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE

39:18 - COLLECTING WHATEVER RECORDS

39:20 - WERE WRITTEN DOWN OR WHATEVER

39:24 - THOSE FOLKS I RECOLLECT.

39:26 - HERE'S A QUESTION FOR YOU.

39:26 - CURRENTLY CANNOLIS. THIS IS A

39:27 - TAX QUESTION FROM AN OBSERVANT.

39:29 - >>THE OR AND THE QUESTION IS

39:33 - WHAT IS THE METAL ON YOUR

39:34 - JACKET? EXPLAIN, PLEASE.

39:35 - AND THAT IS THE 5TH CORPS

39:38 - BADGE.

39:41 - >>IT WAS GENERAL BUT RESEMBLES

39:44 - THE GERMAN CROSS. IT'S A

39:45 - MALTESE CROSS AND IT WAS THE

39:50 - BADGE FOR THE 5TH CORPS.

39:53 - IT'S BLUE BECAUSE I WAS IN THE

39:57 - 3RD DIVISION AND IT WAS GENERAL

40:00 - BUTTERFIELD PRIOR

40:02 - TO GETTYSBURG WHO ORGANIZED THE

40:03 - UNION, THE ARMY OF THE POTOMAC,

40:07 - SIR COURT. HE DID IT BY BADGES.

40:11 - DIFFERENT BADGES. THE 6 CORE

40:11 - HAD AGREE CROSS THE 11TH CORPS

40:15 - HAD A CRESCENT MOON 2ND QUARTER

40:20 - HAD HAD A A TRY TRY FOR OIL

40:23 - AND WHAT HE DID WAS EVERYONE

40:25 - AND THAT CORE WOULD HAVE THAT

40:26 - BADGE. BUT IT WOULD BE A

40:28 - DIFFERENT COLOR BASED UPON THE

40:31 - DIVISION THAT YOU ARE IN.

40:33 - SO THE FIRST DIVISION WOULD

40:34 - BE WHITE. SECOND DIVISION WOULD

40:37 - BE BLUE. I'M SORRY, RED AND

40:37 - THE 3RD DIVISION WOULD BE

40:39 - BLESSED. RED, WHITE AND BLUE

40:42 - AFTER THE FLAG.

40:44 - GENTLEMEN, LET'S TAKE A JUST

40:48 - A MINUTE OR TO TALK ABOUT THE

40:48 - ORGANIZATION THAT YOU'RE A PART

40:49 - OF HERE. AND IT'S IT'S ON THE

40:51 - SCREEN IS CALLED THE

40:52 - CONFEDERATION

40:54 - >>OF UNION GENERALS. I JUST

40:55 - WANT TO APPOINT OUR VIEWERS

40:56 - BRIEFLY WITH THE KIND OF WORK

40:58 - THAT IS TAKING PLACE THERE.

41:02 - A GENERAL BUFORD, CAN YOU TELL

41:03 - ME ABOUT THE MISSION OF COOGAN

41:05 - WIRE A PART OF IT? I WOULD LOVE

41:11 - TO. I WAS RECRUITED STARTING

41:14 - BACK IN 2013 TO BECOME A MEMBER

41:15 - OF THE CONFEDERATION OF THE

41:16 - UNION GENERALS AS A WAY TO HELP

41:19 - TELL

41:20 - A STORY.

41:21 - >>OF AMERICANS SENSE OF HONOR

41:23 - AND DUTY AND EXCEPTIONALISM BUT

41:23 - TO HELP EDUCATE PEOPLE SO THAT

41:24 - THE MEMORY OF WHAT AMERICANS

41:28 - HAVE DONE TO CREATE AND GIVE

41:29 - US THE INCREDIBLE CONQUER THAT

41:32 - WE HAVE TODAY.

41:36 - AND 2 OF PRESERVE THAT OUT 4

41:37 - NOW 162 YEARS SINCE THE BATTLE

41:40 - OF GETTYSBURG.

41:43 - WITHOUT THE DEDICATION OF

41:44 - SELF-SACRIFICE TO THE PEOPLE

41:46 - WHO CAME BEFORE US. THIS

41:47 - COUNTRY WILL NOT BE WHAT IT

41:50 - IS TODAY. AND THAT'S THE REASON

41:53 - THAT I JOINED. THAT'S THE

41:53 - PURPOSE OF THE CONFEDERATION OF

41:54 - UNION GENERALS. AND BY THE WAY,

41:56 - OUR HEADQUARTERS CAMP, HE'S

41:59 - ON BALTIMORE STREET AT UNITY

42:00 - PARK IS JUST ACROSS THE STREET

42:01 - TO THE SOUTH OF MISTER JERRY'S

42:04 - ICE CREAM STORE. SO IT'S A GOOD

42:05 - LOCATION. WE INVITE YOU TO COME

42:08 - AND JOIN US. WE HAVE A

42:08 - PROGRAMMING GOING ON GOING ON

42:11 - IN OUR HEADQUARTERS CAMP ALL

42:12 - DAY LONG FOR THE NEXT 3 DAYS.

42:16 - WE HOPE YOU COME OUT AND

42:17 - SEE US.

42:19 - >>THAT'S GENERAL JOHN BUFORD

42:20 - HAS PORTRAYED BY MARK LEONARD.

42:22 - NOW, HOW ABOUT COLONEL WILLIAM

42:24 - MCCANDLESS IS PORTRAYED BY RON

42:27 - ZANONI. SO RON, TAKE A MINUTE

42:28 - TO TALK AS YOURSELF AND ABOUT

42:30 - YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE

42:32 - CONFEDERATION, THE UNION

42:36 - GENERALS. I'VE BEEN

42:37 - PORTRAYING A UNION A PERSONA

42:39 - FOR BETTER THAN 11 YEARS.

42:41 - NOW. AND I'M RELATIVELY NEW TO

42:42 - THE CONFEDERATION OF UNION

42:43 - GENERALS. THIS IS MY SECOND

42:44 - YEAR, BUT I WAS IN ANOTHER

42:48 - GROUP PRIOR TO THIS BEFORE ITS

42:50 - DISSOLUTION AND SIMILAR GROUP

42:51 - THAT DID THE CIVIL WAR PER

42:54 - TRAILS. CORRECT? CORRECT.

42:57 - AND SO I DO THIS.

43:00 - TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC. NOT ONLY

43:01 - ON THAT PERSONA, BUT ON THE

43:03 - CIVIL WAR IN GENERAL. HOPEFULLY

43:08 - PRESENTING THE CORRECT

43:08 - INFORMATION AND THAT IS

43:11 - ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE.

43:12 - THAT IS THE PRIMARY REASON FOR

43:16 - DOING THIS. BUT ANOTHER REASON

43:17 - IS THAT THEY SAY THAT TIMES

43:20 - CHANGE.

43:24 - I'M SORRY. THEY SAY THAT THAT

43:25 - YOU DIE, TOO. THAT'S ACTUALLY

43:26 - ONE IS WHEN THE SOUL LEAVES

43:28 - YOUR BODY. THE OTHER IS WHEN

43:31 - THE LAST TIME YOUR NAME IS

43:34 - MENTIONED. AND SO I I'M HOPING

43:34 - THAT GENERAL KERR MCCANDLESS

43:38 - CATS TOO. I LIVE A VERY LONG

43:39 - LIFE BY DOING THIS SPORT WRAP.

43:40 - ALL RIGHT, JOHN, THANK YOU VERY

43:41 - MUCH DOUBT. LET'S GO BACK IN

43:45 - CHARACTER FOR NEXT COLOR.

43:46 - AND THAT IS AND IN SOUTH

43:49 - FAYETTE, GO AHEAD.

43:50 - >>YEAH, THANKS, LARRY. AND HIS

43:54 - FREEZER. YOU'RE JUST I WAS

43:55 - WONDERING IF THEY HAD ANY

43:55 - KNOWLEDGE OF THE INTERACTION OF

43:58 - THE CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS WITH

43:59 - THE CITIZENS OF PENNSYLVANIA,

44:02 - WHITE AND BLACK.

44:05 - >>WE'RE RELATIONS WITH THE

44:06 - PEOPLE IN GETTYSBURG IS MORE

44:08 - IMMEDIATE TO OUR TOPIC.

44:12 - WHOEVER WAS THE FULL QUESTION.

44:14 - THE QUESTION IS, WHAT WAS THE

44:14 - RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SOLDIERS

44:19 - MEN UNDER YOUR COMMAND AND

44:19 - CIVILIANS? AND I'M MAKING IT

44:22 - SPECIFIC TO THE TOWN

44:24 - OF GETTYSBURG. WELL, I'M SO

44:25 - GLAD THEIR HOMES, BUT NOT ALL

44:27 - OF THEM, RIGHT, RIGHT. ALL-STAR

44:30 - FIRST, JUST BECAUSE THE CALVARY

44:31 - ALWAYS GET ON SITE AND IN THAT

44:32 - RUBBLE AND INTO A BARREL BEFORE

44:34 - ANYBODY

44:35 - ELSE DOES.

44:36 - >>SO WHEN WHEN WE ROLLED INTO

44:39 - TOWN ABOUT MIDDAY ON JUNE,

44:41 - 30TH, THE CITIZENS OF

44:42 - GETTYSBURG, WE'RE EXTREMELY

44:43 - EXCITED TO SEE US. THEY TREATED

44:45 - US AS IF WE WERE SAVIORS.

44:48 - ALL THE YOUNG LADIES LINED THE

44:50 - STREETS ON WASHINGTON STREET

44:52 - WORKS, WHICH IS THE STREET WE

44:53 - RODE INTO TOWN ON FROM

44:53 - EMMITSBURG, ROAD UP WASHINGTON

44:56 - STREET. THEN.

44:58 - THEY WERE SINGING SONGS.

45:00 - THEY WERE HANDING OUT SLICES OF

45:03 - BREAD AND PIECES OF GOT TO GO

45:03 - FROM AROUND AND IT WAS GOOD

45:05 - FOR MY MEN BECAUSE THEY HADN'T

45:06 - HAD ANY ANY SOFT BREAD FOR

45:09 - ABOUT 6 WEEKS. AND HERE'S ALL

45:10 - THESE PRETTY GIRLS AND LEAVING

45:13 - FLOWERS AND AND SO THE MEN WERE

45:15 - PRETTY EXCITED AND HOPING WE

45:17 - DIDN'T HAVE A BATTLE FOR A FEW

45:18 - DAYS. COULD COULD MINGLE WITH

45:21 - THE GIRLS IN TOWN.

45:23 - >>WHAT YOU OBSERVE THE DAY

45:24 - BEFORE THE BATTLE BECAUSE THE

45:26 - OTHER DAY EARLY.

45:27 - >>BUT I ALSO HAVE THAT SAME

45:29 - TOKEN, I KNEW WHERE ALL THE

45:30 - CONFEDERATE FORCES WERE.

45:31 - I KNEW IT WOULD BE ENGAGED ON

45:35 - JULY. 1ST. SO ON JUNE 30TH, I

45:36 - ISSUED ORDERS TO ALL OF THE

45:40 - BARS AND SALOONS IN TOWN.

45:42 - YOU CANNOT SERVE ANY ALCOHOL

45:43 - TENDING UNION SOLDIERS. IF YOU

45:44 - DO, I'M GOING TO ARREST.

45:45 - YOU MAY HAVE TO DO IS USE TO

45:46 - TAKING ORDERS LIKE THAT FOR

45:48 - THE MILITARY. WELL AND ARE

45:49 - PROBABLY NOT BEEN UNDER THE

45:50 - CIRCUMSTANCES. I REMINDED THEM

45:52 - HOW MANY SPIES I HAD HUNG ON

45:57 - THE WAY TO GETTYSBURG AND WHEN

45:58 - THEY TOOK HEED OF THAT. AND

46:00 - SO IT APPEARS AS THOUGH NONE

46:03 - OF THE

46:05 - SOLDIERS UNDER MY COMMAND HAD

46:06 - BEEN ENGAGING AND THEN ALCOHOL

46:09 - CONSUMPTION ON JUNE. 30TH.

46:10 - AND THEY WERE ALL READY TO GO

46:13 - ON JULY. 1ST.

46:14 - >>HOW ABOUT YOU? CURRENT

46:16 - MCCANDLESS TO THE GERMAN HAVE

46:20 - MUCH INTERACTION WITH THE

46:21 - CITIZENS AGAINST HER? NO,

46:24 - BECAUSE BY THE TIME WE ARRIVED

46:25 - IN GETTYSBURG, THE TOWN WAS

46:30 - ALREADY OCCUPIED BY THE

46:30 - CONFEDERATES. HOWEVER, ON THE

46:33 - EVENING OF JULY SECOND, AFTER

46:37 - WE HAD HAD A A HAD TO COUNTER

46:40 - CHARGE AGAINST

46:42 - THE CONFEDERATES AND WE WERE AT

46:42 - THE STONEWALL, THE EASTERN SIDE

46:45 - OF THE WHEAT FIELD. AND THAT'S

46:45 - WHERE WE WERE ALL NIGHT LONG.

46:51 - ONE OF THE COMPANIES AND ONE OF

46:53 - OUR REGIMENT SAID THE BUCK

46:55 - TALES REGIMEN WEST FROM

46:57 - GETTYSBURG. SO SOME OF THE MEN

47:00 - ASKED IF THEY

47:01 - COULD GO BACK IN WHERE THEY

47:03 - COULD TO VISIT THEIR RELATIVES.

47:06 - SO I HAD ALLOWED HIM TO DO

47:06 - THAT. THAT'S COURSE THEY

47:08 - COULDN'T GO INTO TOWN. BUT

47:09 - THEIR RELATIVES LIVED OUTSIDE

47:12 - OF TENNIS. HERE'S A PHONE CALL

47:15 - FROM MOUNT POCONO. AND IT'S

47:17 - STEPHEN. GO AHEAD AND ASK A

47:18 - QUESTION.

47:20 - >>YEAH, MY QUESTION IS FOR

47:21 - GENERAL BUFORD. I WAS WONDERING

47:22 - IF YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT

47:25 - ABOUT HOW HE MOVED FROM THE

47:26 - TRADITIONAL CAVALRY CHARGES

47:28 - FOR USING THIS GROUP IS TOO

47:31 - SMALL

47:32 - TO CALGARY AND HOW THE WEAPONS

47:33 - THEY HAD MADE THAT BEING

47:34 - PLAYED. THERE WERE HUGE STEP

47:36 - FORWARD. THANK YOU.

47:39 - >>I WILL TRY AND KEEP IT

47:40 - RELATIVELY BRIEF. BUT THERE

47:41 - COULD BE A REALLY LONG ANSWER.

47:45 - THAT QUESTION.

47:45 - >>MY EXPERIENCE FIGHTING IS OUR

47:47 - GENERAL. WHERE'S YOUR

47:49 - MICROPHONE IS AT NEARBY.

47:50 - WE WANT TO WE WANT TO HEAR

47:51 - EVERYONE. ALL I DID. YEAH.

47:52 - I JUST HALT YET. PUT THAT ON

47:53 - THERE SLOWLY AND THEN GO AHEAD.

47:55 - AND WE'RE LISTENING.

47:56 - >>MY EXPERIENCE FIGHTING IN

47:57 - THE INDIAN WARS AND NEBRASKA.

48:02 - AND KANSAS. AND ON FURTHER WEST

48:05 - INTO THE DAKOTAS. TELL ME ONE

48:10 - THING. AND THAT IS WHEN YOU'RE

48:12 - ON HORSEBACK HERE. A BIGGER

48:13 - TARGET THAN ONE YEAR. KNEEL

48:13 - DOWN BEHIND A ROCK OR A WALL

48:17 - AND SOUL. ALL THAT EXPERIENCE.

48:18 - AND DURING THOSE INDIAN WARS,

48:21 - IT AFFECTED ME A GREAT DEAL.

48:22 - AND SO WHEN WE GOT TO

48:25 - GETTYSBURG, IT WAS.

48:28 - NOTED IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT IF

48:30 - WE'RE UP AGAINST INFANTRY, WE

48:31 - NEEDED TO BE DISMOUNTED, WHICH,

48:34 - BY THE WAY MEANT THAT ONLY 3

48:35 - FOURTHS OF MY MEN WERE COMEBACK

48:36 - CAPABLE BECAUSE THE OTHER 4TH

48:36 - HAD TO BE BEHIND THE LINES.

48:39 - HOLDING HORSES. AND ESPECIALLY

48:43 - THE WAY THE BUT DELAYING ACTION

48:43 - HERE AT GETTYSBURG PLAYED OUT

48:46 - WHEN MOVED FROM AND HERS.

48:48 - RIDGE BACK TO MCPHERSON RIDGE

48:49 - BACK TO SUMMER RIDGE. WE HAD TO

48:52 - BE ABLE TO.

48:54 - MOUNT UP ON HORSEBACK AND

48:54 - SCOTT, OUR BACK TO THE NEXT

48:57 - MAINLINE. PRETTY QUICKLY.

48:57 - WE HAD TO HAVE THE HORSE

49:00 - HOLDERS. THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY

49:03 - WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO

49:04 - DELAY THE CONFEDERATE AS LONG

49:07 - AS WE DID IF AND IF WE HAD AND

49:09 - THEY WOULD HAVE OCCUPIED

49:10 - CEMETERY HILL AND SUMMER.

49:12 - TERRY RIDGE. AND THAT WAS THE

49:15 - PURPOSE

49:16 - AS WELL AS OUR WEAPONRY.

49:17 - I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE

49:18 - QUESTION YOU'LL HAVE TO EXCUSE

49:22 - ME. I'VE BEEN UNDER COMBAT AND

49:24 - LOUD NOISES AND FIREARMS FOR

49:26 - MOST OF MY LIFE. AND SO MY

49:27 - HEARING IS NOT AS GOOD AS IT

49:30 - COULD BE, BUT

49:33 - >>I DON'T CONSIDER THIS

49:34 - QUESTION THEN. AS FAR AS THE

49:35 - OUTCOME OF THE BATTLE OF

49:37 - GETTYSBURG, IN

49:38 - YOUR OPINION, WHY DO YOU

49:40 - SUPPOSE THE NORTH DID DOMINATE?

49:41 - TRY TO TELL US. AND IN SIMPLE

49:42 - TERMS WHY THE THE NORTH

49:45 - PREVAILED?

49:49 - COLE HAMELS IS TAKE THAT.

49:51 - I MENTIONED IT BEFORE THAT THE

49:52 - MORALE OF THE UNION ARMY,

49:53 - PARTICULARLY PENNSYLVANIA

49:56 - RESERVES

49:56 - >>I WAS RAISED BECAUSE WE'RE

49:57 - FIGHTING IN THE NORTHERN STATE

50:01 - AND

50:03 - I BELIEVE THAT GENERALLY

50:06 - THOUGHT THAT HE COULD WIN

50:07 - THIS BATTLE BECAUSE HE'S WON A

50:08 - NUMBER OF BATTLES PRIOR BECAUSE

50:12 - THE UNION OFTEN RETREATED.

50:12 - AND IF IT HAD SOME KIND OF

50:14 - MOMENTUM GOING INTO GOVERNOR

50:17 - ACT, CORRECT? AND

50:17 - HE WAS VERY SURPRISED TO FIND

50:23 - OUT THAT OUR SOLDIERS, I STUCK

50:24 - IT OUT AND DIDN'T AND DIDN'T

50:27 - RETREAT. SURE. WE PULLED BACK A

50:28 - LITTLE BIT ON THE SECOND DAY,

50:30 - BUT WE PULLED BACK TO OUR

50:32 - ORIGINAL LINE, GAVE UP A LITTLE

50:34 - THE TERRITORY, BUT NOT THAT

50:39 - MUCH. I THINK IT WAS.

50:40 - SOMETHING THAT GENERALLY

50:44 - PROBABLY. OVERLOOKED. AND HIS

50:47 - STRATEGY.

50:52 - YOUR TAKE ON ALL SHARE THE WAY.

50:55 - >>FACT IS THE ARMY OF THE

50:57 - POTOMAC WILL SIGNIFICANTLY

50:58 - LARGER THAN THE ARMY OF

50:59 - NORTHERN VIRGINIA TO SUPERIOR

51:00 - NUMBERS IS A GOOD START UP.

51:06 - SUPERIOR GROUND THAT WAS.

51:09 - MY REAL SKILL IS THE CALVARY

51:11 - MUNN WAS PICKING THE GROUND AND

51:12 - AND IDENTIFYING WHERE THIS

51:15 - POSITION SHOULD BE.

51:15 - FORTUNATELY, REYNOLDS AND MEET

51:16 - AGREED WITH ME. BUT I HAD

51:19 - ALREADY.

51:21 - THE TERM AND THEN HAD SAMPLES

51:23 - MULTIPLE. BOTH MEN, BOTH

51:25 - MESSAGES THAT THAT'S WHERE YOU

51:27 - NEED TO BE ALL KEEP THE

51:28 - CONFEDERATES NORTH AND WEST OF

51:28 - TOWN AWAY FROM THE GROUND.

51:31 - AS LONG AS I CAN.

51:34 - MOST. THE CALVARY WE DID HAVE

51:35 - THE SPIRIT WEAPONS OVER THE

51:38 - CONFEDERATE INFANTRY. WE COULD

51:42 - GET OFF 7 OR 8 SHOTS AND THEN A

51:43 - CONE AND COUNTRYMAN ONE, THEN

51:45 - MAYBE ONE AND A HALF SHOTS PER

51:48 - MINUTE. SO IT LOOKED LIKE WE

51:48 - WERE PROBABLY 6 TO 7 TIMES

51:52 - LARGER THAN WE REALLY WERE

51:53 - THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR

51:54 - THING. BUT THE MORALES WAS

51:57 - REALLY SIGNIFICANT. AND THERE'S

52:00 - ONE OF MY TROOPERS ERODE AS WE

52:02 - ROAD ACROSS THE MASON-DIXON

52:03 - LINE AND HE WROTE TO HIS

52:06 - PARENTS AND HE SAID WE ARE

52:10 - FINALLY ON GLORIA'S UNION SOIL.

52:11 - INSTEAD OF THAT GODFORSAKEN,

52:12 - DESOLATE COUNTRY, A VIRGINIA.

52:16 - THEY WERE HAPPY TO BE BACK HOME

52:20 - AND THEY WEREN'T. THEY WERE

52:21 - GOING TO CHANGE TO ANY MORE

52:22 - SOUTH. INTERESTING, JUST THE

52:22 - GEOGRAPHY AND THE FEELING OF

52:23 - BEING HOME HAS AN IMPACT ON

52:26 - THEM. CORRECT.

52:28 - >>AND THERE ARE A LOT OF BOYS

52:28 - FROM PENNSYLVANIA THEN THAT'S

52:29 - WHY THE PENNSYLVANIA MONUMENT

52:33 - IS SO BIG TODAY. THAT'S

52:35 - LET'S CONSIDER WHAT WAS THE

52:41 - PUBLIC REACTION AFTER DAY 3 AND

52:41 - EVERYTHING HAS SETTLED AND ALL

52:42 - THE DUST AND THE EXCITEMENT

52:45 - IS SETTLED. WHAT WAS THE

52:46 - REACTION FROM THE PUBLIC AS

52:48 - TO WHAT HAPPENED TO GETTYSBURG

52:49 - AND WHAT WHAT? HOW DID IT

52:51 - REFLECT ON YOU PERSONALLY?

52:54 - GENERAL BUFORD?

52:55 - >>IF YOU REMEMBER AFTER DAY

52:59 - 3, BOTH ARMIES LEFT, RIGHT AND

53:02 - THIS OF IT ON THIS 5,000 DEAD

53:02 - HORSES LAYING AROUND GETTYSBURG

53:03 - AREA, THERE'S 50 SOME 1000.

53:08 - AMERICAN CASUALTIES

53:08 - >>AND THIS SO THE ARMY IS

53:10 - LEAVING. THAT BECOMES WHOSE

53:13 - PROBLEM.

53:13 - >>CIVILIANS PRIMARILY IT'S OVER

53:16 - FOR OVER 50,000 CASUALTIES HAVE

53:17 - A LITTLE TOWN OF 2500 PEOPLE

53:21 - HAD TO TRY AND DEAL WITH AGAIN,

53:22 - 5,000 DEAD HORSES. YOU CAN VARY

53:24 - A MALL.

53:26 - A BANGED-UP STARTING BIG FIRES

53:28 - AND TRYING TO BURN OFF WHILE

53:28 - HORSES AND MULES. BUT ABOUT

53:30 - 5,000 THAT ONE'S LAND THERE

53:34 - AND ME, YOU JUST CAN'T HARDLY

53:35 - IMAGINE WHAT THEY'RE SMELLING

53:36 - THE ODOR IN THE SPRING QUARTER.

53:40 - BEN BARELY GOT CLEANED UP.

53:43 - AND TIMES TO DEDICATE THE

53:44 - SOLDIER CEMETERY. WHEN

53:46 - PRESIDENT LINCOLN ARRIVED

53:48 - IN NOVEMBER, AMERICAN TOOK THAT

53:49 - LONG TO DEDICATE THAT CEMETERY

53:50 - AND JUST TO GET THE PLACE

53:52 - CLEANED UP ENOUGH FOR LINCOLN

53:53 - THE TO VISIT, THE ARMY DID HELP

53:55 - OUT.

53:56 - IN THAT MAJOR LETTERMAN HAD SET

54:01 - UP A HOSPITAL CAMPSITE, TOO.

54:04 - TRY TO

54:05 - RELIEVE SAY.

54:06 - >>CITIZENS OF THE WOUNDED THAT

54:08 - WERE IN THEIR HOMES IN THEIR

54:11 - FORMS AND AND SEND THEM TO A

54:13 - CENTRAL A PLACE WHERE THEY

54:14 - COULD RECOVER AND BE TREATED

54:16 - THERE OFF THE SITE OF

54:17 - BATTLEFIELD. THAT'S GOT TO BE

54:18 - IN THE SHOCKING THINGS THE

54:19 - CIVILIANS HAVE EVER BEEN

54:21 - EXPOSED TO.

54:22 - >>I CAN'T IMAGINE. YEAH.

54:25 - I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY.

54:26 - >>IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE BEEN

54:30 - NEARLY SHELLSHOCK. I MEAN, FOR

54:31 - ALL THE NOISE AND TALK ABOUT

54:33 - THE THE ARTILLERY BATTLE ON

54:36 - AND FIRING ON THE ON JULY 3RD,

54:39 - IT CAN 50 MILES AWAY. YEAH,

54:40 - IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT AND

54:41 - FIRE COULD BE HEARD AT THAT

54:44 - DISTANCE. AND THE PEOPLE

54:45 - LIVING HERE LIVING IN THE POLLS

54:46 - TO HIDING IN THEIR BASEMENTS,

54:51 - TRYING TO SURVIVE AND THAT JUST

54:52 - HANG ON, HOLD ONTO THEIR

54:52 - PROPERTY TO STRESS LEVELS HAD

54:55 - TO BE REALLY INCREDIBLE.

54:56 - HERE'S A GOOD TAX QUESTION FROM

54:59 - A VIEWER. EXPLAIN THE

55:00 - LOGISTICS.

55:00 - >>GETTING ENOUGH FOOD AND

55:02 - AMMUNITION TO YOUR TROOPS.

55:03 - THIS IS A NECESSARY IMPORTANT

55:05 - THING.

55:09 - THAT'S THE QUARTER MASTERS JOB.

55:10 - >>AND THEN HAND THE QUESTION

55:11 - OFF TO HIM. BUT HE'S NOT HERE.

55:15 - HE'S NOT HERE. BUT

55:18 - >>OUR SUPPLIES WERE IN

55:20 - WESTMINSTER, MARYLAND, HOWEVER,

55:22 - WAGONS OF SUPPLIES, AMMUNITION

55:25 - WERE SENT UP FROM WESTMINISTER

55:27 - THAT TOOK HOURS OR DAYS, NOT

55:31 - HOURS. IT'S ABOUT 35 MILES FROM

55:33 - GETTYSBURG. AND BUT WE KNEW

55:33 - THAT ONCE THE TROOPS ARE ON

55:34 - THE FIELD, THAT THE NEXT STEP

55:37 - FOR TO BRING UP.

55:41 - AMBULANCES AND SUPPLY WAGONS

55:43 - WITH AMMUNITION AND FOOD.

55:44 - AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF

55:44 - THIS IS THAT AT THE END OF THE

55:49 - SECOND DAY, WE ONLY HAD ABOUT

55:49 - A DAY SUPPLY OF FOOD AND

55:52 - AMMUNITION.

55:56 - SO WE WERE HOPING I'M SURE

55:58 - GENERAL MEADE WAS THINKING THE

55:58 - SAME THING THAT HE WAS HOPING

56:01 - THAT.

56:02 - THERE WOULD BE A FIGHT ON THE

56:02 - 3RD DAY BECAUSE IF WE WAITED

56:06 - ANY LONGER THAN THAT,

56:07 - WE DIDN'T WIN AVENUE SUPPLIES

56:09 - TO LAST BEYOND THAT. AND THEY

56:10 - SAY AN ARMY TRAVELS ON ITS

56:12 - STOMACH. SO THIS IS A BIG DEAL.

56:13 - YOU WILL. AND THE ARMY TRAVELS

56:16 - BECAUSE OF HORSES.

56:17 - >>AND 70,000 HORSES EAT AN

56:19 - AWFUL LOT OF FEED.

56:22 - >>THAT ALL HAD TO COME UP.

56:24 - ALSO WAS MY RESERVE BRIGADE

56:26 - UNDER UNDER GENERAL MAYOR THAT

56:27 - ACTUALLY THAT ESCORTED ALTHOUGH

56:30 - SUPPLY TRAINS

56:31 - FROM WESTMINSTER GETTYSBURG OF

56:32 - THE WEST AND THE WATER. SO YOU

56:35 - NEED TO BE NEAR A STREAM.

56:38 - >>MORE CREEK OR RIVER.

56:38 - WHICH IS WHY MOST OF THE

56:41 - BATTLES TOOK PLACE

56:42 - NEAR THIS.

56:43 - >>OUR GUESTS HAVE BEEN UNION

56:45 - ARMY COMMANDER GENERAL JOHN

56:47 - BUFORD, PORTRAYED BY MARK

56:49 - LEONARD AND UNION ARMY

56:50 - COMMANDER COLONEL WILLIAM

56:52 - MCCANDLESS IN REAL LIFE.

56:53 - HE'S WRONG IS UNKNOWN. AND

56:54 - GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR

56:55 - JOINING US. THANK YOU FOR

56:58 - HAVING US.

57:00 - BEFORE WE GO, A REMINDER COMING

57:03 - UP NEXT, BRAND NEW BATTLE WALKS

57:03 - RECORDED TODAY ON THE ACTUAL

57:07 - BATTLEFIELD IN GET HIS.

57:07 - A COMPLETE SCHEDULE. DETAILS

57:11 - THAT PCN TV

57:12 - DOT COM. THAT IS IT FOR OUR

57:12 - SPECIAL GETTYSBURG CALLING

57:14 - PROGRAM LARRY CASPER, THANKS

57:17 - FOR WATCHING.