Jefferson Educational Society program on remembering the Leroy & Beatrice Smith family with author and historian Melinda Meyer at Pennsylvania Western University, Edinboro
00:03 - Fantastic.
00:05 - So I.
00:06 - Right out of the gate.
00:07 - I want to ask if you can hear me. Okay.
00:09 - Or if I need to use a microphone.
00:12 - Volume is good.
00:13 - Okay, I see. Thumbs up. That's excellent.
00:15 - Because I hate speaking into a microphone because then you can hear me breathing.
00:20 - And because I am a presenter who likes to move,
00:24 - Then I get myself out of breath.
00:28 - So fantastic.
00:34 - So the project that we're going to talk about
00:36 - tonight is a project that is now almost 14 years old.
00:42 - It was started
00:46 - with just a simple ask.
00:51 - So those of you
00:52 - in the room who are from the Edinburgh community,
00:56 - you may actually know the woman in the photograph here.
01:01 - This is Kestrel Smith.
01:03 - Kestrel is the oldest daughter of Leroy and B Smith and Kestrel.
01:13 - She very much wanted her
01:14 - parents story to be documented,
01:18 - and she knew that time was potentially running out.
01:23 - Her father was 94 years old when she approached the Edinburgh Area
01:27 - Historical Society to have his oral history documented.
01:32 - And so she came with this request,
01:36 - and she came with her request to Ruth Cogan.
01:40 - Again, those of you
01:41 - that are from the Edinburgh community, that name will be familiar to you as well.
01:45 - Ruth at the time was incredibly active with the Edinburgh Area
01:50 - Historical Society.
01:51 - She worked in the library and archives of the Society,
01:55 - and so when Kestrel asked
01:58 - if if a project could be done.
02:01 - Ruth, without question, said yes, this is, this is going to be an important
02:05 - opportunity to add a personal story
02:10 - to the Edinburgh Area Historical Society's collections. That
02:16 - would help fill a gap right?
02:20 - There were, there are and there were then gaps in the collection.
02:25 - As with any institution that collects
02:27 - and relies on the public to contribute materials to the
02:31 - to the collection of the organization, there are always gaps.
02:35 - There are underrepresented communities in the collection, people who may not feel
02:41 - that their stories are important enough
02:44 - to be collected and then told by the historical Society.
02:48 - But thankfully, Kestrel understood the value of her parents story,
02:52 - not just for the Edinburgh community, but for the university as well.
02:57 - And then, of course, for the Edinburgh Historical Society.
03:02 - So Kestrel asked, ask to.
03:06 - Ruth turned into a funding request
03:09 - that was submitted by the Edinburgh Area Historical Society
03:14 - to the Pennsylvania Historical Museum Commission.
03:17 - They had a funding program that was funded with the National
03:20 - with funding from the National Park Service's Preserve America Program,
03:24 - and the grant program was special, frankly,
03:28 - to fund projects that would help document African-American history.
03:37 - This was a massive
03:39 - project, even though the funding amount was relatively small.
03:43 - I can't now recall the total amount of the project,
03:47 - but I want to say it was under $8,000.
03:51 - So with the funding that was received,
03:57 - the project included
03:59 - the following components.
04:03 - So we sat down at Edinburgh University's oral history
04:08 - studio and documented the history
04:13 - of Leroy Smith as he told it.
04:16 - Right.
04:16 - It was a an oral history, his oral history that was shared and recorded.
04:20 - We also had a few other family members
04:23 - that were documented through an oral history.
04:27 - We also scanned
04:30 - photographs that the family let the Historical Society borrow.
04:34 - So digital versions were made of the The Families photograph collection.
04:41 - Those are still stored at the Edinburgh Area Historical Society.
04:46 - Also part
04:47 - of this exhibit are also part of this project.
04:50 - All of the history that was collected was taken
04:54 - and an exhibit was made out of it
04:57 - to tell the Smiths family story.
05:00 - We also created a
05:03 - about a 16 page essay talking about the history of the family.
05:08 - And then, of course, there was also a public program
05:11 - that followed or went in line with the exhibit
05:15 - where we talked about the project and the results.
05:18 - So all of that was part of this project,
05:23 - something that didn't get done, but we snuck into the project.
05:27 - Scope of work was development
05:31 - of a county wide driving tour aimed at highlighting
05:35 - Erie County's African-American heritage.
05:39 - So part of the project we did have
05:43 - the part of the project involved a student from Mercyhurst University.
05:47 - We paired them with Sarah Thompson and Johnny Johnson.
05:51 - Both local, both local historians who have done work
05:54 - with Erie County African-American history.
05:57 - And she did come up with a first draft.
06:00 - But that
06:01 - was the piece of this project that wasn't finished.
06:04 - Everything else we were able to wrap up within a year,
06:10 - even though the county wide driving tour wasn't
06:15 - finished in 2012 when we wrapped up the
06:18 - The Smith Family Documentation Project,
06:22 - about seven years later, we dusted it off
06:27 - and that original draft
06:30 - that came from that Smith Family project
06:34 - is the document that has become
06:40 - a shared heritage
06:42 - and the the county wide driving tour
06:45 - that you can find today at Shared Heritage dot org.
06:49 - So in addition to
06:53 - featuring the driving tour of African American heritage sites
06:57 - throughout the county, we also have lots of great history presented.
07:03 - So you'll see some of the tabs at the top.
07:06 - We've got a brief history of African American
07:09 - heritage in Erie County broken down into various eras.
07:14 - We have if you click on
07:15 - important people, you're going to find links to biographies
07:19 - of individuals who lived here in Erie County.
07:22 - One of those links will take you to the history of Leroy and Beatrice Smith.
07:29 - Historical Voices.
07:30 - We have oral histories recorded
07:34 - by other individuals in the community.
07:37 - So you can watch oral history interviews
07:40 - under the historical voices and under additional resources.
07:44 - You can access a PDF copy of the
07:49 - What is Still Today the definitive history
07:52 - of African-Americans in
07:55 - specifically the city of Erie.
07:57 - And that is a journey from Jerusalem,
08:00 - and that was written by Sarah Thompson.
08:03 - So that book was originally published by the Erie County Historical Society.
08:07 - It is today out of print,
08:10 - but you can access a PDF copy right through the shared Heritage website
08:15 - because it's that important that this history be available to people.
08:21 - So project team members,
08:24 - we really do have to
08:27 - give kudos to Ruth as the project coordinator.
08:31 - She really drove this project from start to finish.
08:35 - I had the privilege of serving
08:37 - as the Technical Assistance
08:40 - Grant consultant,
08:42 - which was appointed by I was appointed by HMRC
08:46 - to work with the Edinburgh Area Historical Society on this project.
08:50 - And then you can see going through the list of names,
08:53 - we have several several representatives from Edinburgh
08:57 - University and I'm I have to apologize up front.
09:01 - I realize it is Pan West,
09:04 - but I will throughout this presentation, continue
09:07 - to refer to it as Edinburgh University, so I apologize if that offends you.
09:11 - It's just how I know the college.
09:15 - Okay.
09:19 - So we have we have several
09:22 - several individuals from the university that were part of this project
09:27 - performing different research.
09:29 - They all had different research assignments.
09:32 - So Aubrey Dillane was a longtime friend
09:36 - of the Smith family that wanted to be part of the project.
09:40 - Of course, you are bunko history professor Adriana Houseman was the Mercyhurst
09:45 - University student that worked on the draft of the county wide tour.
09:50 - Johnny Johnson, well-known local public historian.
09:55 - Many of you will remember Dr. Joe Lace.
09:57 - Joe was the also a history professor
10:00 - and director of the Oral History studio here at Edinburgh.
10:04 - The library Archivist. Dave Springer.
10:06 - Castro Smith.
10:07 - We had to keep her on this list because even though she was indeed
10:11 - part of the project as a member of the Smith family,
10:14 - she was also incredibly important, an important member of the team itself.
10:19 - Eric Brewer's Eric
10:21 - did research on the Smith family home, so he was able to provide a write up
10:27 - about the
10:28 - architecture itself of the farmhouse.
10:31 - And let's see, Sarah Thompson, of course,
10:35 - author of Journey from Jerusalem, and then Stacey Turner.
10:38 - She was a graduate student.
10:39 - She worked with Dr.
10:41 - Lace on the oral history interviews.
10:44 - So this was a pretty extensive
10:47 - project team that we had working on this.
10:51 - Without further
10:52 - ado, let's jump into the Smith story.
10:56 - I should note that the Smith story, it is a personal story, right?
11:01 - I am a public historian.
11:03 - I believe that public I believe that all history is local history.
11:08 - It starts at the local level.
11:10 - It starts with individual stories.
11:14 - Even if you were to look at the story of someone like Harriet Tubman
11:18 - and her story has national significance.
11:23 - But if you if you look at it at its core, it is also a personal story.
11:28 - It's a story of an individual who achieved incredible things in their lifetime.
11:33 - So we're going to look at the story of Leroy and Beatrice Smith through that lens
11:40 - as incredible people who did incredible things,
11:44 - perhaps not nationally, but certainly in the Edinburgh community.
11:49 - They left their mark on the Edinburgh community.
11:54 - So Leroy is from
11:58 - originally Reserve Louisiana.
12:01 - I found this amazing.
12:03 - So if you look I don't know if it comes across well,
12:07 - this little red area here is reserve.
12:11 - It is located along the banks of the Mississippi River
12:14 - and its claim to fame.
12:17 - Well, I'll talk about that in I guess, in just a minute.
12:22 - Is the God show Sugar refinery.
12:26 - So Leon Godchaux purchased property
12:30 - along the Mississippi River there originally was a plantation there in the
12:35 - in the years following the Civil War, Leon Godchaux purchased a plantation.
12:40 - And then over time utilized that land
12:44 - to build out the Godchaux sugar refinery.
12:47 - This by 1900
12:51 - was the largest sugar refinery in the country,
12:56 - and it was one of the largest in the world.
12:59 - And Leroy's father, Osama,
13:01 - was a laborer working at the Godchaux sugar refinery.
13:06 - The town of Reserve grew up around the refinery
13:10 - as laborers came to work at the sugar refinery.
13:14 - They built homes,
13:17 - and that's
13:18 - that's how the town developed over time.
13:22 - Here's family is huge.
13:26 - There are 14 children, if I'm counting them, right?
13:31 - So both Osama
13:34 - and Alice were married previously.
13:37 - Osama had three children from his first marriage.
13:41 - Alice had two children from her first marriage.
13:45 - And then together they had nine more children.
13:49 - So this really was quite a large family,
13:52 - and I have them listed here in order of the nine as they were born.
13:57 - And so Leroy was actually one of the youngest.
14:05 - Osama was Creole, by the way.
14:10 - His schooling.
14:15 - He actually attended
14:17 - Leon Godchaux Grammar School in reserve.
14:22 - But education opportunity days were very limited in reserve at that time.
14:27 - And so wanting a greater education,
14:30 - it was at this point he actually after finishing grammar school,
14:35 - he moved in with his sister Estelle in New Orleans,
14:39 - and he finished high school actually in New Orleans.
14:44 - He attended Xavier University and
14:51 - you might like this.
14:52 - He was a biology major,
14:57 - so he actually commuted
14:59 - on a regular basis or on a daily basis from the Felicity Street address,
15:04 - which is where he lived with his sister Estelle,
15:07 - to Xavier University.
15:09 - Xavier is,
15:13 - really unique in that it is.
15:17 - Well, if, if their own history is to be believed, their website is to believed.
15:23 - It is the only Catholic historically
15:26 - black university in the country.
15:32 - So Leroy studied biology
15:36 - with the intent to ultimately go to medical school.
15:40 - He never did.
15:44 - have the opportunity
15:46 - to enter medical school, but that was why he majored in biology.
15:49 - Had a he had a strong interest in in the medical field.
15:55 - He graduated from school
15:56 - in 1940, and following graduation,
16:01 - he did
16:03 - what you would expect
16:05 - a variety of odd jobs immediately.
16:07 - So after graduating,
16:09 - he decided to attend a couple of night courses, continue his education
16:14 - at the local business college, and that I love this.
16:17 - He also worked as a milk tester at a local dairy.
16:24 - So shortly after graduating,
16:28 - Leroy entered military service.
16:33 - So he actually served during the World War two era.
16:38 - So just before Pearl Harbor,
16:42 - the country had not yet formally entered the war.
16:46 - And so after Pearl Harbor,
16:49 - Leroy really felt that if he didn't enlist voluntarily,
16:54 - he would be called upon to serve, he would be drafted.
16:59 - And so he made the step to go ahead and enlist himself.
17:03 - So he enlisted
17:06 - in 1942.
17:08 - He actually spent his entire military career
17:11 - working at Hammer Field in Fresno, California.
17:14 - He was in the service from 1942 to 1946.
17:20 - I actually think
17:22 - he was very fortunate to have served out of California
17:25 - for that four year period.
17:32 - So. B
17:35 - So she's actually originally from Arkansas.
17:38 - You can see these little
17:41 - red dots show you exactly where she's from.
17:45 - Her family, however, moved to New Orleans
17:49 - when the family was still very young.
17:52 - So these parents are Greenville and Carry Shelby
17:56 - and her father was a porter at a local restaurant.
18:00 - And Carrie actually was, not surprisingly,
18:04 - a stay at home mom who cared for their seven kids.
18:08 - Another large family, not quite 14, but seven, is a pretty good number two.
18:13 - And what I think is most
18:16 - interesting about Carrie's
18:19 - family or I'm sorry, Abby's family, is the fact that her mother, Carrie,
18:24 - was so well-educated. So
18:29 - if you look at
18:30 - Carrie's educational credentials, they're just amazing, right?
18:34 - So these mother, Carrie,
18:39 - she graduated from Knoxville College
18:42 - in Knoxville, Tennessee.
18:44 - She also attended the Alabama Agricultural and Mechanical University
18:48 - in Normal, Alabama, and then taught school ultimately in Clarksdale,
18:53 - Mississippi, just before she became a mom.
18:57 - So you can see that education was incredibly important to Carrie.
19:01 - And in everything that we've come to know
19:04 - about, be that
19:07 - that prioritization of education
19:10 - was transferred to B, who then transferred it to her own children.
19:16 - So these are B's As siblings, I will refer to her
19:19 - as B just because that's how her family refers to her.
19:22 - But her official name is Bessie Beatrice,
19:28 - and these are all of her siblings.
19:31 - And you can see she was
19:34 - almost at the end of the line.
19:37 - I'm not doing a very good job of following myself
19:40 - in my own notes.
19:56 - So Bea's education,
19:58 - she attended Gilbert Academy,
20:01 - which was a property school of Dillard University.
20:05 - She also attended straight college Straight Business College.
20:10 - That, too, is affiliated with Dillard University, just as Xavier
20:15 - is a historically black college or university, so too is Dillard.
20:20 - So when B graduated from the business college,
20:25 - she actually moved to Washington, D.C., where she found employment
20:29 - with the Pentagon.
20:35 - So the meeting and this is where I have to
20:40 - dig in to the oral history,
20:42 - it is not quite as powerful to have me read to you Leroy's words,
20:47 - but I wasn't able to get my hands on the recordings
20:50 - for for you to hear his story in his own voice.
20:54 - So I'm going to read to you
20:59 - a segment of his oral
21:00 - history, and it's the segment that talks about
21:04 - he and B meeting and ultimately falling in love.
21:10 - So these are Leroy's words taken again
21:12 - from his oral history.
21:16 - I gave my life to the Lord since I was 12 years
21:18 - old, and God has been working in my life just in these last ten or 20 years.
21:24 - I really seen how he has worked in my life.
21:27 - But at that time I was just a youngster
21:30 - and I was active in the church from school age right up through college,
21:35 - the church choir, a Sunday school teacher.
21:38 - I worked in youth groups and anything like that had Christian living.
21:43 - So all through my life I had this influence.
21:46 - We had some friends who invited Bessie Beatrice to come to a service
21:51 - at my church, and at that time I was singing in the choir.
21:55 - She was coming from a background similar to mine.
21:58 - She was active in her church, active,
22:02 - but a leader, especially in youth groups and children.
22:08 - She just seemed to attract young children to her.
22:11 - She'd play games with them where she was the teacher
22:14 - and she would teach them various things.
22:16 - You know, she was just like a magnet.
22:19 - And that was one of the things that attracted me to her,
22:22 - just to see how other people were attracted to her.
22:26 - But anyhow, she went to a service at my church.
22:30 - I knew her sister in law and her brother, but I didn't know her.
22:35 - That's how she got introduced to me.
22:38 - Bessie B, there's this guy I want you to meet at that church.
22:42 - Why don't you come and take a look?
22:44 - I want you to see this guy.
22:48 - I don't think it wasn't her brother that said that, but I knew the
22:52 - sister in law, and I'm just sure it was she who made the invitation to her.
22:56 - And so she came this particular Sunday
22:59 - and she came to the service and I was introduced to her.
23:03 - The sister in law's name was Dorothy.
23:06 - I think she's gone to be with the Lord now.
23:08 - She and I were very good friends and the friendship was started
23:12 - between us and we kept it alive via phone.
23:16 - The friendship grew and from year to year I am getting older
23:20 - and she was getting older and we fell in love.
23:30 - So Leroy,
23:31 - he visits B in Washington, D.C.,
23:35 - and they decide
23:38 - they need to get married, right?
23:41 - He's in the service.
23:44 - And I think in many ways it was
23:51 - they wanted to get married before
23:52 - or if something were to happen right in the military service.
23:55 - Right.
23:56 - So they chose to get married in 1944.
24:00 - They got married August 11th, 1944, at the Metropolitan Baptist Church.
24:04 - And after the after the wedding
24:08 - ceremony, B's family in Washington, D.C.
24:12 - actually hosted a reception for the couple.
24:15 - And I think this is just a lovely photograph.
24:18 - Again, for those of you who
24:21 - are familiar with the 1940s,
24:24 - I was very surprised when I saw B in a white wedding gown.
24:29 - Oftentimes in the 1940s, women wore suits.
24:33 - They wore,
24:37 - suits of brown, of Burgundy.
24:41 - And so I love that she was able to wear
24:43 - a white wedding gown for her,
24:46 - for her wedding.
24:50 - So Leroy didn't join B though, until 1946, remember?
24:54 - So after, after they got married, he had to go back to Hamer
24:58 - Field in Fresno, California.
25:00 - He ultimately, came out of the military
25:03 - in 46 and joined her.
25:07 - He wasn't.
25:11 - He was called back, let's say, to New Orleans,
25:14 - his sister Estelle, who he stayed with during his
25:20 - time in
25:21 - middle school and high school and in college.
25:24 - Estelle had a stroke while traveling.
25:28 - Leroy Actually met her
25:31 - during her travels and then traveled with her
25:34 - back to New Orleans, where he stayed.
25:38 - He and B stayed with her for two months before she passed.
25:43 - They stayed in the home and they weren't quite sure
25:47 - what to do now that they find themselves back in New Orleans.
25:51 - So it had always been a passion for Leroy to raise squab.
25:57 - And again, that that probably doesn't sound like something
26:02 - any one of us would get into today,
26:05 - but that it was indeed what Leroy's passion was.
26:07 - And I can assure you, having spoken with him during this project,
26:10 - he really did have an interest in raising pigeons.
26:16 - So his
26:17 - idea was to raise pigeons for poor squab, right.
26:21 - For food.
26:24 - But in order to do that, he needed to have a location
26:28 - where he could raise a large enough flock,
26:32 - where he could be a full time supplier for restaurants and hotels.
26:37 - And so he immediately set out looking for a farm
26:42 - where they might be able to raise
26:46 - a flock large enough for his business venture.
26:50 - And so they started looking north.
26:56 - And so in 1948,
26:59 - Leroy and B actually made the decision to move from New Orleans
27:04 - to Edinburgh, Pennsylvania.
27:10 - And it's really it's
27:12 - really amazing how people's lives take them places.
27:16 - He found the advertisement for the family farm
27:20 - in a farmer's almanac.
27:23 - It was an advertisement for a 38 acre farm in Edinburgh, Pennsylvania,
27:29 - with a farmhouse and a barn and a pump house.
27:33 - It had strawberry fields and there were a few other things
27:36 - listed in the advertisement and it immediately called to him.
27:42 - So their decision to move north wasn't
27:46 - just solely based on Leroy's desire
27:50 - to raise pigeons.
27:52 - They also wanted to leave the South.
27:57 - Some of you may be familiar
27:59 - with the term the Great Migration.
28:02 - So from the early 1900s
28:05 - to about the 1970s, we see
28:10 - the shift in population.
28:12 - We see millions of African-Americans leaving
28:16 - the southern states for opportunities in the north.
28:20 - And so if you trace that back to,
28:23 - you know, what was happening in the South,
28:26 - you're looking at an era when Jim Crow laws were in effect.
28:31 - And so
28:33 - that was a driving force for individuals
28:36 - who were seeking opportunities, freedoms, equality.
28:40 - And so we see millions of African-Americans during the early
28:45 - to mid 1900s
28:48 - leave southern states for northern and western states.
28:52 - When Leroy and Beatrice made their decision,
28:56 - I'm quite certain they were not thinking that they were part
28:59 - of a great migration, right.
29:02 - A national movement that was happening.
29:05 - Their decision was again very much rooted
29:08 - in a personal experience, which again, I wish you could hear this
29:13 - in Leroy's words, but I'm going to read an excerpt
29:16 - from his oral history about
29:20 - their decision to move to the north.
29:29 - I completely lost my train of thought.
29:30 - I'll go ahead and start the quote. yes.
29:36 - So the quote actually talks about
29:40 - an experience that his family encountered,
29:45 - with racism, legal segregation.
29:49 - During that interview,
29:52 - Leroy
29:54 - very rarely
29:56 - talked about encounters of racism.
30:00 - He he this this is such a unique,
30:05 - telling by him in this oral history interview.
30:10 - He really,
30:13 - he really,
30:16 - I don't want to say avoided.
30:18 - He really didn't talk about,
30:22 - encounters with racism that, that he had in general.
30:26 - He was incredibly positive.
30:28 - I think Castro was much more open
30:31 - with talking about lived experiences that she had.
30:36 - So this really is,
30:39 - a unique portion of his oral history.
30:44 - So again, this, this is one of the instances
30:47 - or the instance that
30:50 - made their decision for them to move north.
30:53 - We had this idea that we don't want to bring our children up in a segregated
30:58 - area.
30:59 - Sometime during our lives, we ought to move away from Louisiana
31:03 - and go up north or west somewhere,
31:06 - but get out of the segregated section.
31:09 - Let me give you a little story about something
31:12 - that really helped us to come to this decision.
31:15 - A nice park.
31:16 - It was in the way that the areas were segregated or separated.
31:20 - I'm sorry. Separated.
31:21 - Colored and white in the colored section, there was this beautiful park.
31:26 - It was named Shakespeare Park.
31:27 - And in the white section there was a park.
31:31 - The Audubon Park.
31:33 - And that would be really like any big city.
31:36 - Main park. Audubon Park.
31:39 - Well, black people, you could go in those parks
31:42 - in Audubon Park, in the white Park, you could take a tour.
31:48 - What was prohibited Like everybody else,
31:51 - you take a picnic basket to the park
31:55 - and you have a picnic
31:57 - and you couldn't do that.
31:59 - So we went for a holiday or something.
32:01 - We went to Audubon Park, and I was showing the kids certain things.
32:05 - Something I can't remember.
32:07 - It's been so long.
32:09 - And they brought a picnic basket.
32:12 - I had never had this experience before,
32:15 - so we had a picnic basket packed and we were going to have a little picnic.
32:20 - So when we got all settled in an area where we're going to have the picnic
32:25 - after our little tour, after we sat on the grass
32:29 - and have a little picnic, just as we got settled.
32:33 - Here comes an officer.
32:35 - It was his responsibility to make a round of the park, you know.
32:40 - And he did it not on foot, but on horseback.
32:44 - Just as we got settled.
32:46 - Here comes this big horse coming.
32:49 - And the policeman says, What's going on here?
32:53 - We're just going to have a picnic.
32:55 - no, you can't have a picnic here.
32:57 - There's a park down in.
32:59 - Go and have your picnic in Shakespeare Park.
33:03 - There were the kids, and they were all excited.
33:05 - We just packed up and went home because all of the excitement was gone.
33:11 - Plus, that was very embarrassing.
33:13 - And I don't know how they felt.
33:15 - But, boy, it sure did something to me.
33:19 - A guy come and say, You can't go down and your park is there,
33:23 - you know.
33:29 - Again, it's more impactful
33:30 - to hear it from Leroy himself.
33:36 - So they wanted to move north
33:40 - to give their children different and better experiences
33:45 - on the farm.
33:48 - This is the farm.
33:49 - They purchased a 3050 rice road here in Edinburgh.
33:53 - They purchased the farm in 1948
33:57 - after seeing the ad in the Farmer's Almanac.
34:00 - Leroy made plans to travel to Edinburgh to see the farm in person.
34:05 - He didn't bring B with him when when he was inspecting the property.
34:09 - He brought someone with him.
34:11 - I believe it was a cousin.
34:13 - Leroy could only remember. His first name was Nick.
34:17 - And so they came.
34:19 - They.
34:19 - They got lodging in the YMCA in downtown
34:23 - and then traveled out and met Ben Skelton,
34:27 - a realtor here in Edinburgh, to inspect the property.
34:34 - The property won Leroy over,
34:37 - and so he went back to Louisiana,
34:40 - told me that it was it was a go.
34:44 - And so in 1948, they bought the property.
34:47 - B was four months pregnant at the time with their first their first child.
34:52 - They also brought with them Edward Kosi.
34:55 - Edward.
34:57 - If I recall correctly, was Estelle's son.
35:00 - So this is Leroy nephew.
35:05 - So I think it's important that we spend a little bit of time
35:08 - just talking a little bit about
35:13 - Edinburgh and Edinburgh's
35:16 - African-American community.
35:21 - As part of this project,
35:23 - researchers went back and looked at the census records for both Edinburgh,
35:29 - the borough, as well as Washington Township,
35:33 - to look for African-Americans who were recorded on the census.
35:38 - Again, as far back as we could go.
35:43 - So Edinburgh Borough
35:45 - was incorporated in what, 1840?
35:49 - And so we were able to go back
35:51 - at least to 1860 to see some of the.
35:55 - But it took us until 1860, I should say, to find some
35:59 - some of the first African-Americans to be living in the area.
36:04 - If I'm not going to mention all of these individuals,
36:07 - but I think you can see from the list that there were very few African-Americans
36:12 - living in both in Washington Township at the time.
36:16 - What I do think is interesting is that if you look at
36:20 - look for the occupations of most of these gentlemen,
36:24 - they're nearly all barbers
36:30 - and McLean Baptist Church.
36:34 - Their pastor, Elder Devon,
36:37 - who pastored the church from 1863 to 67,
36:42 - was African-American.
36:48 - So when
36:48 - the Smith family made the decision to move to Edinburgh,
36:52 - it's not as if they were moving to Edinburgh
36:56 - to move into an African-American neighborhood, right?
36:59 - They did not have family here.
37:02 - They were not moving to be closer to family.
37:05 - They were moving to a community that
37:09 - for the better part
37:10 - of their existence here, there
37:14 - really were no other African-Americans in the community.
37:17 - That doesn't mean
37:19 - I'm separating a little bit the community from the school, Right.
37:23 - So the university.
37:25 - It does have a history
37:27 - of having African-American faculty members and students.
37:32 - But typically, the students are only here for schooling.
37:35 - Right.
37:37 - Whereas the Smith family, these this was a family
37:39 - that was moving to Edinburgh permanently.
37:45 - So finding work.
37:47 - So, again, as we discussed earlier,
37:50 - Leroy's passion was to raise pidgin for food
37:56 - and to sell it to restaurants and hotels in the Erie area.
38:01 - So he actually had
38:03 - his inventory of 100 birds shipped
38:07 - from New Orleans to to the city of Erie.
38:12 - He visited a few hotels
38:14 - and restaurants in the city of Erie,
38:18 - kind of testing the waters, gauging the interest,
38:22 - if any of them were interested or or maybe had squab on their menu.
38:27 - And unfortunately, he decided very quickly that it was not a business
38:31 - venture that would work here.
38:33 - So he ended up freezing all of his birds
38:38 - and he and B, ate through them
38:40 - over the next couple of years.
38:45 - So I just threw this up here
38:48 - just to give you something interesting to look at this book.
38:52 - It's actually dated 1948,
38:56 - the year, right, that Leroy and B bought the farm
38:59 - in Edinburgh with the intent to raise squab.
39:02 - It is the national Standard squab
39:05 - book published or written by Elmer Rice, and it's a primer
39:09 - on how to raise pigeon for squab.
39:15 - the interesting thing is you can find
39:19 - they taste like chicken.
39:20 - I don't know. I don't know.
39:23 - So since the
39:26 - since the pigeon business venture did not fly,
39:31 - he did apply for work at the VA hospital.
39:35 - So the VA hospital construction
39:38 - started on the VA hospital in the city of Erie in 1948.
39:43 - It was a multimillion dollar project.
39:45 - And when all was said and done,
39:47 - they were going to have a workforce of about 250 people.
39:51 - So Leroy, remember, his degree
39:54 - from Xavier is in biology.
39:57 - Leroy applied to work for the VA hospital.
40:01 - The very first job that he had
40:02 - there was working in the kitchen, kitchen and laundry service.
40:07 - But as soon as an opening
40:09 - was available in the radiology lab, he applied to be part of the radiology lab
40:15 - and got that position.
40:19 - He worked his way up over his 30 year career
40:22 - so that when he retired in 1980,
40:25 - he was actually supervisor of the lab.
40:31 - this is.
40:33 - This is Leroy here.
40:40 - So the family
40:42 - remember I mentioned that that baby was four months pregnant
40:45 - when they were beginning to look at the house in Edinburgh
40:49 - or the farm in Edinburgh. Unfortunately,
40:54 - the baby passed away shortly after birth.
40:58 - But they did have they did ultimately
41:00 - have this beautiful family of four.
41:04 - And that's a little misleading because they actually
41:06 - had a larger family than this.
41:08 - But I'll get to that in just a minute.
41:11 - So we have Shastra,
41:13 - Julie Siva and, Stephen,
41:17 - the four children.
41:26 - So Leroy and B were also foster parents.
41:33 - It is estimated
41:35 - that while their home was open to foster children,
41:40 - they had more than 75 children
41:43 - come through their home,
41:46 - some of which they stayed in touch with even
41:52 - as late as 2012, when we were working on this documentation project.
41:57 - This is one of them.
42:00 - So this is Terry Carr and this is Stephen.
42:05 - Terry was one of the children
42:07 - that came to them through the foster care system.
42:11 - Unfortunately,
42:12 - they were removed from the family home and taken to Detroit,
42:18 - replaced with their father, who was abusive.
42:22 - So Terry wanting to protect his younger brother,
42:26 - he reached out to the Smiths, who some somehow
42:31 - they were able to send money to Terry and his brother,
42:34 - who then got onto a bus and traveled
42:38 - back to Edinburgh.
42:41 - When they arrived back in Edinburgh.
42:44 - The Smiths contacted the Office of Children and Youth
42:48 - and they were placed with the Smith family.
42:53 - Though it was rocky because they they did have to go through
42:58 - a court proceeding and justify their behavior.
43:00 - Right.
43:01 - Because they had sent money to the boys and encouraged them to leave their father,
43:05 - who they were placed with and come back and return to the Smith family.
43:09 - So there was a court proceeding, but the court ultimately found
43:13 - that the father was abusive and that the Smiths were
43:18 - in the right and they were able to keep the boys.
43:21 - And so Terry Terry is one of the foster children that,
43:26 - again, during this project was still in touch
43:28 - with the family.
43:33 - Community service.
43:35 - It's incredibly important to spend
43:38 - time talking about the community service that the family engaged in.
43:43 - So Leroy and B
43:46 - actually set an incredible example for their children.
43:50 - Not only were they giving of themselves
43:54 - by serving as foster parents, you can imagine
43:58 - 75 children over the course.
44:02 - I'm not sure of the exact timeframe, but even if that was over 20 years,
44:07 - that's a lot of children that come through your home.
44:11 - But they also volunteered in
44:14 - with organizations around the community.
44:17 - So they were involved in the area city mission.
44:22 - They volunteered at
44:25 - and advocated for the Community Country Day School.
44:29 - So at the top here, we have mother Mary
44:32 - Beth Kennedy and Charles Kennedy Senior,
44:36 - who were the founders of the
44:38 - Community Country Day School.
44:44 - G Kak, That was another.
44:47 - We were also able to find their names in the newspaper
44:50 - as connected to volunteering with g cak
44:54 - g Cak traces its roots back
44:57 - to President Johnson deciding
45:02 - to to declare a war on poverty and
45:08 - millions of dollars were allocated by the Federal government
45:11 - for these poverty action teams all across the country.
45:16 - And so Alex Thompson, Dr.
45:19 - Thompson was the original director
45:23 - of of G Kak.
45:25 - Ultimately out of
45:28 - the poverty action group.
45:32 - We also have
45:33 - the development of our neighborhood centers like the Booker
45:37 - T Washington Center,
45:41 - the MLK Center,
45:43 - those community centers and areas came out of the work
45:47 - that the original
45:51 - Greater Erie Anti-Poverty action team.
45:55 - Something along those lines which became g KEC came out of that work and
46:01 - so Leroy
46:02 - and B volunteer their time and expertise
46:06 - to all of these different organizations and efforts.
46:11 - So again, we didn't
46:14 - necessarily hear a lot from Leroy about
46:21 - racism, racism
46:23 - that he encountered throughout his life,
46:26 - but his children, specifically, Castro
46:30 - was willing to talk with us openly about what she had experienced.
46:35 - And I think, you know, I think it's important for us to recognize
46:40 - that racism existed in Edinburgh, Pennsylvania.
46:46 - So even though they were fleeing,
46:48 - segregate Asian legal segregation in the South
46:53 - for new opportunities in the North, they very much encountered
46:58 - biases in discrimination here as well.
47:02 - And so
47:04 - one of the one of the things we felt that was important
47:07 - as part of the documentation and project was to help
47:13 - help kind of contextualize
47:16 - the discrimination that was occurring in in Edinburgh.
47:20 - And one of the things that we identified were all of the or many of the camps,
47:25 - many of the camps in cottages,
47:27 - rental units, camps where children could be sent
47:32 - within the guidelines or rules for the camp.
47:38 - They excluded,
47:41 - for the most part, non Gentiles, I believe,
47:44 - was the the phrasing that was used.
47:47 - So certainly
47:51 - discrimination was something that was present and encountered here.
47:54 - Chris Castro herself actually talked about,
47:59 - you know, what it was like to be in a school
48:03 - where she and her siblings
48:06 - were the only African-American students
48:10 - there were.
48:11 - You know, they encountered teachers who just
48:16 - simply lacked understanding.
48:19 - They also Castro talked about being spit on.
48:24 - So their experiences,
48:26 - Castro was was much more open about talking about
48:30 - the negative experiences she had in Edinburgh than
48:37 - than her father.
48:45 - The family, though, was incredibly
48:50 - motivated,
48:53 - again, prioritizing education and not just the education
48:57 - of their own family, but the education of the community.
49:01 - Some of the things that they involved themselves with the entire Smith family,
49:05 - not just Leroy and B, but even Castro,
49:09 - were aimed at bridging
49:12 - any divide that may have existed between black and white.
49:15 - Right.
49:16 - Education was key.
49:18 - Exposure was key.
49:20 - And so this is this is one of the,
49:24 - circumstance or
49:26 - one of the
49:31 - events
49:33 - that I think is worth noting.
49:35 - So Castro the years February
49:39 - 1969, Castro is president of the student council,
49:44 - and she suggested
49:49 - that there be an assembly
49:50 - to acknowledge Black History Week.
49:54 - And so she was politely refused.
49:58 - She was told that a significant speaker could not be found,
50:04 - and therefore it was not a worthwhile
50:07 - or permissible effort.
50:11 - Castro And I suspect that
50:13 - she was supported greatly by be in this
50:17 - Castro then who would not be denied.
50:21 - She then reached out to the mayor
50:24 - of Cleveland, Carl Stokes.
50:28 - He happened to be the first African
50:31 - African-American, African-American mayor
50:34 - of a major US city.
50:39 - And he was actually
50:41 - she reached out to him when he was in office.
50:44 - So she reached out to Carl Stokes
50:47 - to see if he would come to Edinburgh
50:50 - and speak at a scholastic dinner.
50:53 - The student council was charged with planning and Mr.
50:58 - the Mayor Stokes, was not able to attend, but he did
51:03 - send his administrative aide.
51:07 - So Reverend Lehman
51:10 - actually did come to Edinburgh and spoke
51:12 - to student council.
51:17 - And I love this.
51:20 - We're quite certain that he did indeed
51:22 - prove to be a speaker of significant prestige,
51:27 - which is why she was told she couldn't have
51:29 - the assembly in the first place.
51:36 - So Leroy and B worked often with the university again
51:39 - wanting to expand the diversity
51:44 - programing of the university.
51:47 - So it was very common for them
51:51 - to make arrangements for speakers to come.
51:55 - They were also driving forces.
51:57 - When it came to that's in the next slide.
52:00 - I'm sorry.
52:01 - So one of the one of the presenters,
52:04 - they had come
52:07 - was Pauline Myers.
52:10 - She her program
52:12 - included The World, The World of My America.
52:17 - And, it included excerpts
52:22 - from To Kill a mockingbird, The Poetry of Langston
52:26 - Hughes, the words of Sojourner Truth
52:29 - and Poetry by Paul Laurence Dunbar.
52:32 - And the program later became a PBS special.
52:36 - And this is where we get
52:37 - the title movers of Edinburgh.
52:41 - if, I'm not sure if you can read this, but
52:47 - this autographed picture
52:50 - that Ms..
52:51 - Miers left them actually refers to Leroy
52:54 - and B as the movers of Edinburgh.
53:08 - So in 1973,
53:11 - B was incredibly instrumental
53:13 - in organizing the first Black History Week
53:18 - event or celebration here at the university.
53:22 - There were a number of other speakers
53:24 - that they were responsible, specifically, B was responsible
53:29 - for working with other folks
53:31 - here at the university to,
53:35 - to get come.
53:36 - So Ruby Dee, Ossie Davis, And here in the photograph
53:40 - we have Andrew Young, who was the mayor of Atlanta at the time,
53:46 - all speakers that that be was instrumental
53:49 - in bringing to the the university community.
53:53 - This photograph was taken in 1981.
53:57 - I find this surprising.
53:59 - Just look how youthful and vibrant Bea looks.
54:03 - She actually died the following year.
54:05 - She died in 1982 at the age of 60.
54:09 - She died very young,
54:15 - So I knew I would get into trouble if I only mentioned
54:19 - Leroy and be in organized doing
54:23 - special speakers here at the university.
54:26 - So I did want to at least call out a few other folks
54:30 - who were very involved in
54:35 - getting African-American speakers here,
54:39 - artistic performances,
54:42 - creating special programs,
54:46 - training programs,
54:49 - prep programs
54:51 - again, that were all administered through the university.
54:54 - So these are just a few of the folks who helped,
54:58 - as well, diversify
55:01 - the offerings of the university.
55:06 - So I actually thought it was
55:09 - important to end with this, and I'll just give you well, I'll read it.
55:14 - I guess I'll it.
55:17 - So as we end tonight, I think it's
55:22 - this account of B
55:26 - is, first of all, what Leroy would probably want us to end on,
55:30 - because throughout his oral history, you can tell
55:33 - you could tell just how much he loved his wife,
55:35 - how much he missed her, how much she respected her
55:37 - for for the work that she did in the community.
55:41 - And so I'll I'll read what I have here.
55:46 - Father Robert Bauer, a retired Catholic priest living in Edinburgh,
55:51 - recalled that B pushed him to work on issues
55:54 - of social injustice and inequality.
55:57 - He admitted that he may not has may not have been as engaged
56:01 - in the effort to improve racial tensions at Edinburgh State College,
56:05 - had B not encouraged him to do so.
56:08 - Father Bower remembered B as one of the great people of my life.
56:14 - She made being good look easy.
56:18 - He said he was one of the individuals that we interviewed
56:22 - as part of this project because he had firsthand knowledge of the Smith family.
56:27 - Well, let me let me back up and let me,
56:30 - let me review this specifically.
56:33 - And if I misspoke, let me correct it.
56:35 - Let me take the opportunity to correct it.
56:40 - Yeah.
56:43 - Okay.
56:44 - So let's see.
56:46 - I'll just quickly read through here,
56:51 - through their life of the Rice road farmhouse tho
56:55 - their life at the rice road farmhouse was a minimum manifestation of their dream.
56:59 - The Smith family was not able to escape discrimination entirely
57:04 - through the first half of the 20th century.
57:06 - We know that de facto segregation, which was of course
57:13 - then, not legal.
57:14 - The non-legal version of segregation
57:17 - was practiced openly in the North,
57:20 - though segregation was officially condemned and outlawed,
57:24 - discrimination was widespread in both urban and rural environments.
57:28 - Edinburgh was no exception, as evidenced by the prevalence
57:32 - of racially based rules and discriminatory language
57:36 - in promotional materials of clubs and private organizations.
57:40 - So we have to come to camp for Goal for Girls,
57:44 - one of the Edinburgh Lake youth
57:46 - camps offering boating, fishing, archery, athletics, swimming and canoeing.
57:51 - They printed on their application form Gentiles.
57:54 - Only accepted at two camps are Camp Willson Gear Cottage,
57:59 - also located along Edinburgh Lake,
58:01 - included the following statement in their promotional brochure.
58:04 - We endeavor to maintain first class cottages, furnishing
58:09 - same for comfort and convenience and cater only to Gentile people
58:13 - who appreciate the comforts of a quiet place in the country.
58:16 - Because Go Camp and Culbertson Hills Country Club maintained
58:20 - similar race related requirements
58:24 - and all of these primary sources, the
58:31 - the applications, the camp
58:32 - fliers guidelines were actually found
58:36 - in the archival collections of the Edinburgh Area Historical Society.
58:40 - So these descriptions and words were taken from those original
58:44 - those primary sources that targeting Jews just like this and saying,
58:50 - I think they're using it as a code word for African-Americans as well.
58:56 - So, I would,
58:58 - I would actually venture to say that
59:01 - anyone other than the
59:04 - white individuals would have been excluded.
59:08 - But the
59:10 - I think the reason we're pulling out these examples is to show that there were
59:17 - examples of racial segregation or racial discrimination
59:21 - I'm sorry, racial discrimination happening in Edinburgh
59:26 - while the Smith family was here.
59:30 - I have I have gone back
59:32 - and I've tried to listen through the oral histories.
59:35 - And at no point is there a clear
59:39 - connection to how she became involved.
59:45 - But it is.
59:48 - It is, yeah.
59:51 - Maybe through something like you can met somebody
59:55 - considered to be a, you know, a resource.
59:58 - 497 Quite possibly. Quite possibly.
01:00 - 06.436 We, we did go through the university archives.
01:00 - 08.271 Dave Springer
01:00 - 10.974 was incredibly helpful in going through the archives
01:00 - 15.378 and we looked for any and all mention that we could find of be
01:00 - 17.080 and we found
01:00 - 20.917 lots, we found her name appearing in
01:00 - 24.220 a lot of public program
01:00 - 26.956 or student driven programing.
01:00 - 29.092 But again, that answer
01:00 - 32.095 was that question was never answered really.
01:00 - 34.931 They were also heavily involved in the church,
01:00 - 41.537 as you could hear from the excerpts taken from Leroy's oral history.
01:00 - 44.474 He was,
01:00 - 47.276 had a very strong faith.
01:00 - 49.912 And so they were involved.
01:00 - 53.850 We were able to connect them to
01:00 - 55.351 at different times,
01:00 - 59.455 four or five of the local churches.
01:00 - 03.426 And so it's also possible that that they were connected
01:01 - 08.931 through friends, friends they had made through the church.
01:01 - 11.634 That one too. I,
01:01 - 13.603 I had
01:01 - 16.239 tried to remind myself
01:01 - 21.210 to mention it, and I completely forgot
01:01 - 24.681 when we were talking about
01:01 - 26.883 circumstance or racism
01:01 - 31.187 that they had encountered.
01:01 - 32.522 here.
01:01 - 37.026 so here's, here's a another excerpt for you.
01:01 - 38.594 Not of Leroy's oral history,
01:01 - 42.632 but from ultimately the, the essay that we wrote,
01:01 - 45.068 adding to the complexity of the circumstances,
01:01 - 50.073 the Smith children came of age at the height of activity
01:01 - 53.509 for the national and local civil rights movement.
01:01 - 57.480 It was an era of both change and resistance, and the family boldly
01:01 - 01.417 confronted social and political barriers.
01:02 - 04.020 For many years, the family worshiped
01:02 - 09.292 at the First Church of God in Cambridge Springs,
01:02 - 09.625 right?
01:02 - 14.731 Just down the road, just days after the assassination of Dr.
01:02 - 16.833 Martin Luther King Jr.
01:02 - 19.202 In April of 1968,
01:02 - 23.372 the pastor announced from the pulpit that the death of the civil
01:02 - 27.610 rights leader was for the best,
01:02 - 33.349 which marked the end of the Smith's attendance at that church.
01:02 - 36.219 But but they had yes,
01:02 - 40.289 they were very active in the local faith community.
01:02 - 43.025 That was the first Church of God is just in Cambridge
01:02 - 56.172 Springs is just one of the churches They they attended.
01:02 - 02.245 So I can tell you where they're at per
01:03 - 05.681 2012.
01:03 - 08.785 So this information is a couple of it's
01:03 - 12.054 certainly old.
01:03 - 14.257 I'm sorry for having to flip back and forth.
01:03 - 19.095 But so Castro, she was incredibly well known
01:03 - 21.697 for her ability to play the piano.
01:03 - 24.867 And actually the very first photograph I had of her,
01:03 - 27.570 which was the second, I think, slide,
01:03 - 29.372 it was actually of Castro
01:03 - 34.177 seated at a piano during a recital at a at a church.
01:03 - 36.946 So Castro received degrees in piano performance
01:03 - 41.951 and music from Oberlin Conservancy and Oberlin College
01:03 - 44.420 and completed her juris doctorate
01:03 - 48.758 from the University of Cincinnati College of Law.
01:03 - 50.693 At the writing of this narrative.
01:03 - 52.662 So this is 2012.
01:03 - 57.700 She was an attorney for the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor's Office.
01:03 - 01.204 Julia is a mother of three
01:04 - 04.540 and again at the writing of this, in 2012,
01:04 - 08.511 she was a certified nursing assistant in Erie.
01:04 - 11.848 Theba graduated high school in Germany
01:04 - 16.152 while living with Castro, whose husband was serving in the Army.
01:04 - 17.820 She attended Geneva College
01:04 - 21.924 in Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania, and earned a degree in special education
01:04 - 27.930 and also a master's in special education at Edinburgh State College.
01:04 - 29.532 She was living in Cleveland
01:04 - 33.336 with her 16 year old daughter, Kristin at the time.
01:04 - 37.840 Stephen graduated from General McLane High School in 1979.
01:04 - 39.542 He earned a B.A.
01:04 - 44.580 from Oberlin College in 1983 and a juris doctorate from Case
01:04 - 49.352 Western University School of Law in 1986.
01:04 - 54.290 And then at the writing again in 2012, he was executive director
01:04 - 06.269 of the Harvest Center of Charlotte, North Carolina.
01:05 - 09.305 So perhaps that's something the representatives
01:05 - 13.009 from the Edinburgh area Historical Society would like to mention.
01:05 - 13.376 I don't know.
01:05 - 17.213 Are you allowed to provide an update on the the question?
01:05 - 21.884 The question was how do we does the public have access
01:05 - 25.688 to these oral histories?
01:05 - 29.592 So the short answer is not at the moment,
01:05 - 34.330 but as the university transfers that collection over to the Edinburgh area
01:05 - 40.870 Historical Society, they'll probably need some time for processing.
01:05 - 42.605 what we do.
01:05 - 44.273 Yeah,
01:05 - 49.645 but, but that collection, not only does it have the oral history interviews
01:05 - 53.282 that were collected as part of the Smith Family Documentation
01:05 - 57.053 Project,
01:05 - 00.022 there is an extensive collection
01:06 - 04.593 of World War Two veterans,
01:06 - 07.063 whose oral histories were collected.
01:06 - 08.764 And then
01:06 - 11.100 there was a
01:06 - 14.603 so not only did they do Veterans World War Two veterans,
01:06 - 19.675 they also a series where they interviewed women who joined the workforce
01:06 - 25.081 here at home while their husbands, brothers, fathers were overseas.
01:06 - 28.150 So there are complementary,
01:06 - 31.253 series and they're really fascinating.
01:06 - 35.491 And there's quite a few oral histories in those two collections alone.
01:06 - 39.161 And then I don't know if I shared this with you guys.
01:06 - 42.331 I was also involved in the documentation Project
01:06 - 47.503 for the Italian-American Women's Association of Erie.
01:06 - 50.473 so the, the founding
01:06 - 54.577 women of that organization,
01:06 - 56.512 the majority of them were
01:06 - 59.515 in their eighties and nineties and hundreds.
01:06 - 02.051 And looking at,
01:07 - 05.321 we were looking at doing an oral history project before they passed.
01:07 - 09.091 And so, for a year I spent,
01:07 - 11.660 time driving,
01:07 - 13.129 little old Italian women
01:07 - 17.366 from Erie to Edinburgh to have their oral histories recorded.
01:07 - 21.270 So that, that, that collection is also part of the oral
01:07 - 25.975 history studio's collection
01:07 - 27.343 to the results.
01:07 - 31.213 So all of these photographs were taken
01:07 - 34.283 while the Smith family
01:07 - 37.486 had a private viewing
01:07 - 41.457 of the Smith Family exhibit.
01:07 - 47.263 And yes, Leroy was actually quite excited to have his family history
01:07 - 51.767 on the walls of the Edinburgh Area Historical Society.
01:07 - 57.373 He had, you know, his children, grandchildren present at their viewing.
01:07 - 00.943 They also attended the
01:08 - 03.813 the public opening of the exhibit.
01:08 - 06.482 Yes, I think
01:08 - 09.452 Leroy was very much aware
01:08 - 13.089 of how important the project was, and he was just.
01:08 - 17.193 So he's just so proud of his family.
01:08 - 19.962 I think he really appreciated the project
01:08 - 25.067 and Leroy passed away in 2016,
01:08 - 28.104 so he was 94 when we did this project.
01:08 - 36.612 He was 98 when he passed,
01:08 - 41.117 so I actually don't know now who owns it.
01:08 - 43.819 It was my understand when we were doing this project
01:08 - 47.089 that the Smith family still owned that property.
01:08 - 50.893 It was vacant, but being maintained.
01:08 - 54.864 I do not know if the property had has been sold
01:08 - 58.367 since this project came to a close,
01:08 - 02.905 because again, that was what for 14 years ago when we started.