Neeli Bendapudi, PCN Profiles
00:14 - Neeli Bendapudi president of
00:15 - penn state university this is a
00:17 - new job for you
00:18 - how's it going so far
00:19 - oh it's wonderful
00:20 - I ma in month five on the job
00:23 - so I have all the answers
00:24 - now seriously it's been.
00:26 - A delight
00:27 - to be here at penn state.
00:29 - And for those who maybe aren't
00:30 - familiar with you let's get a
00:31 - little bit of background
00:32 - and go all the way back
00:33 - where are you from.
00:35 - Ah well I was born in south
00:36 - India on the east coast.
00:38 - Ah the state where I
00:39 - grew up onto pradesh
00:40 - is actually called
00:41 - the rice bowl of India
00:42 - so very much and
00:43 - agriculture dominated a state
00:46 - and then I came to the united
00:47 - states for my doctoral degree
00:49 - and my husband and I went
00:50 - to the university of Kansas.
00:53 - And after that.
00:54 - I've had a great stint in both
00:57 - academe and in
00:58 - the private sector
00:58 - and I'm
00:59 - so glad that all of those.
01:02 - Experiences
01:03 - led me to what is clearly my
01:05 - dream job of being president at
01:07 - penn state.
01:08 - Did you always know that you
01:09 - wanted to be
01:10 - involved in academia
01:11 - I think I always knew I
01:12 - wanted to be an academe
01:13 - and that's because.
01:15 - We were talking about
01:16 - you being influenced by
01:17 - you know your mom
01:19 - what she was studying
01:20 - the same thing for me
01:21 - my father.
01:23 - When I was about five years old
01:25 - left to
01:26 - come to the United States
01:28 - for a phd
01:29 - and for four years my
01:30 - mother stayed home with US.
01:32 - Three little girls I
01:33 - was the oldest at five
01:35 - so for four years
01:36 - we didn't see him.
01:37 - Or we didn't have money
01:38 - for a telephone at home
01:40 - but I knew he had gone
01:41 - away to get an education
01:42 - and something called a
01:44 - phd I didn't know what it was
01:46 - but I think from that a John
01:48 - I was fascinated
01:49 - by higher education
01:50 - and the fact that the entire
01:52 - extended family pitched in
01:54 - for him then to go get
01:55 - an education come back
01:57 - so that it would uplift lives.
02:00 - And I read that several of your
02:01 - family members went on to get.
02:03 - Higher degrees so it sounds
02:04 - like education was really more
02:05 - important in your family
02:06 - yes because when
02:07 - you think about the
02:09 - paths out of poverty or.
02:11 - We will not the
02:12 - poorest by any means back.
02:15 - Social mobility when you think
02:16 - about what are the instruments
02:18 - of social mobility
02:19 - higher education plays such a
02:21 - key part
02:22 - and I have no question
02:23 - that when one person
02:24 - in a family gets an
02:26 - advanced degree
02:27 - it allows
02:28 - cousins and extended
02:29 - family to say well
02:31 - if that person can
02:32 - do it maybe I can't too
02:34 - so clearly my father
02:35 - has that impact on
02:36 - a lot of US.
02:38 - What did you study in school.
02:39 - I in that India have a
02:41 - liberal arts.
02:43 - Background I'm very proud of
02:44 - being a liberal arts major
02:46 - and I think it really
02:47 - teaches you critical thinking
02:49 - and prepares you for the world
02:51 - but then after I finished
02:52 - my bachelor's degree
02:53 - I was fascinated India was
02:55 - opening up to competition
02:57 - and.
02:59 - More privatization was happening
03:01 - so I wanted to study business
03:03 - and I am.
03:04 - Very much about free
03:05 - markets and competition
03:06 - because I will tell you
03:08 - that when you don't
03:09 - have a lot of resources
03:11 - it's good to have people compete
03:13 - whereas if it's a closed market.
03:15 - The reality is
03:17 - it becomes so much a seller's
03:18 - market and only the people who
03:20 - have a great deal of resources
03:23 - are able to get to
03:24 - the products and
03:25 - services in the marketplace
03:27 - so I went into business and
03:29 - that's.
03:29 - That's my background.
03:31 - And thinking of the the role of
03:32 - the president of the university
03:33 - does that business background
03:34 - help you in any way your day to
03:36 - day
03:36 - I think it helps tremendously
03:38 - I love the fact that I'm equally
03:40 - at ease inside the classroom
03:41 - and the boardroom.
03:43 - When you think about
03:44 - penn state university
03:46 - we are an eight
03:46 - point four billion dollar
03:48 - organization
03:49 - and so it is important
03:50 - to understand
03:52 - and it's.
03:52 - Particularly important
03:53 - to understand because.
03:55 - We are our mission-driven
03:57 - we are the
03:58 - only land Grant university
04:00 - in Pennsylvania
04:01 - so for everybody listening
04:03 - to this or watching this
04:04 - wherever you went to
04:05 - school that's fantastic
04:07 - but remember you
04:08 - can always claim US
04:09 - because we are the
04:10 - only land Grant
04:11 - university in Pennsylvania
04:13 - meaning the only mission we have
04:15 - the re reason we will founded
04:17 - is to help the
04:18 - citizens of the commonwealth
04:19 - of Pennsylvania.
04:21 - And what about tj I know you've
04:22 - you've been in the
04:24 - professor in classrooms what
04:25 - did you like about teaching
04:26 - and.
04:27 - I love teaching.
04:28 - Because
04:29 - when you think about teaching.
04:31 - Ai.
04:32 - People typically think of the
04:34 - professor having all the answers
04:36 - you go in
04:37 - are the sage on stage and
04:38 - you're there to impart wisdom
04:40 - that has not been my experience
04:42 - especially in higher education.
04:44 - Every time I interact
04:45 - with the students
04:47 - I know I bring knowledge to them
04:49 - but they question they
04:50 - push back and they teach me
04:53 - so teaching
04:54 - is a.
04:56 - Coke created activity
04:57 - and I love that
04:58 - and I am happy to say that for
05:00 - the first time in twelve years
05:03 - I'm actually teaching
05:04 - a course here
05:05 - it's called the president's
05:06 - leadership academy.
05:07 - I love the students
05:09 - in this group and
05:10 - it's been a treat to
05:12 - to interact with them.
05:14 - I was going to ask if you miss
05:15 - teaching but now I know that
05:16 - that you
05:16 - the opportunity to do it now
05:18 - even as president though talk
05:19 - about some of your experiences
05:20 - just interacting with
05:21 - the students here
05:22 - I am.
05:23 - Of course I'm I confess
05:25 - I'm a tiny bit biased
05:26 - but I am.
05:28 - Truly in awe of the
05:29 - students at penn state
05:30 - and when I say penn state
05:32 - I'm talking about all of our
05:34 - commonwealth campus as well
05:36 - as you know ninety six percent
05:38 - of the citizens of
05:39 - this commonwealth
05:41 - live within thirty miles of
05:42 - one of our our locations
05:44 - so we truly are for.
05:46 - The state of Pennsylvania
05:48 - penn state is for the state of
05:49 - Pennsylvania
05:50 - so every place I've been.
05:52 - I've noticed that our
05:54 - students are hardworking.
05:55 - They are smart
05:57 - they are humble
05:58 - they are a joy to be around
06:00 - something I've noticed is
06:02 - the students here
06:03 - seem to be wired not just
06:05 - to bring you a complaint
06:07 - but to bring you a
06:08 - potential solution.
06:09 - Now the solution may
06:10 - not be the one that's
06:12 - the perfect answer or they've
06:13 - thought through everything
06:15 - but I don't know if it's in the
06:17 - water or what waters
06:18 - of Pennsylvania
06:18 - or if it's just penn state magic
06:20 - but I will tell you I've
06:21 - been so impressed
06:23 - that they want to be
06:24 - part of the solution
06:26 - and I think that's going to be
06:27 - such a wonderful trait for them.
06:30 - Going forward
06:31 - and that's probably why
06:32 - when you look at how we rate
06:34 - a penn state
06:35 - so well with imp lawyers.
06:38 - They love recruiting
06:39 - our students
06:40 - and they speak to some
06:41 - of these characteristics.
06:43 - Do you have a
06:44 - student interaction
06:45 - that sticks out at all or one
06:46 - that you remember fondly sure.
06:48 - I
06:49 - I didn't even expected to ask
06:52 - this but I have
06:52 - an answer for you.
06:53 - At one of the campuses and
06:54 - I have to look up where it is.
06:56 - I was on my way way
06:57 - every time I visit anywhere
06:59 - I meet with faculty.
07:00 - With staff
07:01 - with students with alumni
07:03 - and leaders in the community
07:05 - so as we were walking in
07:07 - for one of the
07:08 - groups that I was meeting with
07:10 - noticed that there was a
07:12 - kind of a career fair
07:13 - preparation going on.
07:15 - Not a career fair
07:16 - something that's student
07:17 - affairs was putting on
07:19 - and they were the students
07:20 - with the.
07:23 - Inspiration boards
07:24 - they were all asked to write
07:25 - up something and put it up
07:27 - and there was this young person
07:29 - that
07:29 - really impressed me
07:31 - because he was
07:32 - the first to go to.
07:33 - College
07:34 - and
07:35 - his family did not think he
07:36 - could succeed
07:37 - seat in the area he
07:38 - was going to going to
07:39 - which I believe was finance
07:41 - but his board inspiration board
07:44 - of what you can do.
07:45 - I'm trying to remember.
07:47 - Oh yes he put on there
07:49 - one day or day one you decide
07:52 - and I asked
07:53 - him to explain what
07:54 - it was about he said
07:56 - you could always say
07:57 - why one day I will do it
07:59 - or you can make a determination
08:01 - that today's day one
08:02 - towards whatever dream I have
08:04 - it just stood out to me has.
08:06 - I.
08:07 - The obstacles that
08:08 - he had to overcome
08:09 - to Be what he wanted to be
08:12 - because certainly in
08:13 - the world of high finance
08:15 - there not a whole lot of
08:16 - people that looked like him
08:17 - but I just was
08:18 - very moved by that.
08:19 - Similarly
08:21 - a second interaction if I may.
08:23 - I Was here.
08:25 - With our current
08:25 - student body president
08:27 - at and.
08:28 - We weren't on a.
08:30 - Call
08:31 - with our board
08:32 - chair vice chair me
08:34 - we all talk about issues
08:36 - and Sydney stood out to me
08:38 - because she was
08:38 - bringing up an issue
08:40 - but again as I said
08:41 - said here's what I
08:42 - research we can chocolate
08:44 - a b c d
08:46 - and that's when I thought
08:47 - the this is a pretty special.
08:49 - Group of students.
08:51 - Now I want to get into.
08:52 - Some some of your goals here
08:53 - at penn state but first I know
08:54 - that you served as president
08:55 - of the university of louisville
08:56 - for a period of time
08:57 - talk about that experience and
08:58 - some things that you learned
09:00 - that might help you
09:00 - in this position here are
09:02 - everywhere I've been I've been
09:03 - so fortunate I love my students
09:05 - wherever I've been
09:06 - and university of la louisville
09:08 - is No exception
09:10 - it was a tremendous
09:11 - experience for me.
09:12 - I Frustrate students
09:15 - what stood out to me about
09:16 - the university of louisville
09:17 - is it's about forty percent
09:19 - pell Grant students
09:20 - and.
09:22 - A bragging point for them
09:23 - that's what drew me there
09:24 - is their commitment to
09:26 - serving a very diverse
09:27 - group students so
09:29 - really.
09:30 - Loved it
09:30 - and of course everywhere
09:32 - I am I learned something.
09:33 - So.
09:35 - Students have taught
09:36 - me everything from
09:37 - Facebook to
09:39 - Instagram to tick tock
09:40 - and how to reach them and
09:42 - you know it's
09:43 - always it's always fun.
09:45 - Now coming to penn state.
09:47 - Of course it's a very very large
09:48 - school does that present any
09:50 - unique challenges you mentioned
09:51 - the commonwealth campus.
09:53 - Yeah it is
09:54 - and there is truly
09:56 - no other university like
09:57 - penn state in the country
09:59 - now no president
10:00 - that you interview will
10:01 - sit in front of you and say.
10:03 - Our university is mediocre
10:05 - so this is not hype at all
10:07 - it's factual it's an.
10:09 - Oh
10:09 - And
10:10 - there's not another university
10:12 - that covers an entire
10:13 - state the way we do
10:14 - certainly California new
10:16 - York that are systems
10:18 - but to have one university
10:19 - so that's the beauty of it
10:21 - we have twenty four different.
10:24 - Units right twenty campuses
10:27 - and that definitely provide.
10:29 - Poses
10:30 - huge challenges but provides
10:33 - tremendous opportunities.
10:35 - So I'm very committed
10:36 - to all of them because.
10:38 - Having travel to these
10:39 - campuses I can tell you.
10:41 - That they are.
10:43 - The social economic cultural
10:46 - centers of the
10:47 - communities they serve.
10:50 - And that's part of the
10:51 - land Grant mission.
10:52 - And I want to get into some of
10:55 - the priorities
10:55 - that you listed for
10:56 - your time here at penn state I
10:57 - I read that you have the a b
10:59 - cs and academic preparedness
11:00 - belonging and cost a can you
11:01 - just describe what
11:02 - those all mean
11:03 - I will
11:04 - I was smiling because I can't
11:05 - resist anywhere I've taught
11:07 - I want to make it simple so
11:09 - I know it's so corny
11:10 - but I did go to school
11:12 - in Kansas ha ha ha
11:13 - never mind never mind.
11:15 - But seriously the ab c to me
11:18 - is anyone who gets a paycheck
11:20 - from penn state.
11:22 - It's a faculty member staff
11:23 - member it doesn't matter
11:24 - if you're getting a paycheck
11:26 - from penn state.
11:27 - Every day you
11:28 - better be contributing
11:29 - to the a b c's or asking
11:31 - yourself what have I done today.
11:33 - So if you think about what
11:35 - makes for student success.
11:37 - My definition of student success
11:40 - land Grant universities that
11:41 - about access and affordability
11:43 - so my definition is
11:45 - not just that you get a degree
11:46 - even though it's
11:47 - incredibly important
11:48 - but does it lie lead to
11:50 - a meaningful job a
11:51 - meaningful career
11:53 - are you better off for
11:54 - having gone to college here.
11:56 - So what is it that
11:57 - derails student success.
11:59 - And.
12:00 - The worst of all possible
12:02 - worlds is when a student starts
12:04 - college and then drops out.
12:05 - Because now you have
12:06 - debt and nothing to show for it.
12:08 - So if we examine then
12:10 - why do students drop out
12:11 - and how do we prevent it
12:13 - it's the a b c.
12:15 - Academic preparedness
12:16 - so preparing our students
12:18 - for success
12:19 - not just to graduate but for a
12:21 - job so you asked lessons learned
12:23 - elsewhere.
12:24 - The university of louisville
12:25 - we started a program
12:26 - whereby every student
12:27 - who graduates with a degree
12:29 - weather it's in
12:30 - poetry or philosophy
12:31 - or physics or metaphysics.
12:33 - They automatically
12:34 - have some digital.
12:36 - Certificates embedded
12:37 - so that they're more employable.
12:39 - So things like that
12:40 - academic preparedness
12:42 - sense of belonging.
12:44 - In college
12:45 - everybody needs to be challenged
12:47 - I don't want you to be
12:48 - comfortable the entire time you
12:49 - in college
12:50 - but.
12:51 - If you never feel
12:52 - like you belong
12:53 - that's a toy
12:54 - terrible place to be.
12:55 - No one can succeed if you think
12:57 - people don't believe in you
12:58 - and people don't want you
13:00 - so that sense of
13:01 - belonging matters
13:02 - and how do we create
13:03 - that every single person
13:05 - it might be a veteran who's
13:06 - coming back together decree
13:08 - it might be an adult learner
13:10 - it might be.
13:11 - A fourth generation
13:12 - penn state student
13:13 - who whoever they are
13:14 - that's going to be important
13:16 - and see as the cost we've
13:18 - got to figure out.
13:19 - How to keep.
13:20 - A.
13:21 - Penn state education affordable.
13:25 - Sports is also a massively
13:26 - important part of
13:27 - life here at penn
13:28 - state what was.
13:29 - Your approach to sort of working
13:30 - with the athletic wing of of
13:32 - the university here.
13:33 - I think that.
13:34 - Athletics is
13:36 - phenomenal.
13:37 - Because a
13:38 - for the student athletes
13:39 - themselves it creates the apc
13:41 - right
13:42 - and you automatically get the
13:45 - the
13:46 - coaching and tutoring
13:47 - the sense of belonging
13:49 - it helps you control costs
13:51 - but much beyond that
13:52 - it creates a sense
13:53 - of pride and identity
13:55 - so I've always.
13:56 - Looked for universities that
13:57 - have very strong athletics
13:59 - programs
13:59 - because that's part and parcel
14:01 - of a phenomenal
14:02 - college education.
14:04 - Some very happy.
14:05 - I attended my first home game.
14:08 - Football.
14:09 - At Penn state
14:11 - I've been at strong athletics.
14:13 - Programs as you know
14:14 - Texas a and m and Kansas
14:15 - and Ohio state and louisville
14:17 - my my goodness
14:19 - there's nothing quite
14:20 - like beaver stadium
14:21 - so I loved it
14:23 - and I do have a good background
14:24 - in Athens addicts from where
14:25 - I've been
14:26 - I was vice chair of the ac c.
14:29 - Before I came here
14:30 - and so I feel very excited
14:33 - had a chance to hire a
14:35 - new r a d as you know
14:37 - so doctor pack craft.
14:39 - The thing that's unique
14:40 - about penn state.
14:41 - Is How we make sure
14:44 - our students act Leeds
14:45 - are successful.
14:47 - Beyond the buzzer at
14:48 - some point for every athlete.
14:51 - Your career comes to an end.
14:52 - Our
14:53 - student athlete
14:54 - graduation rate is
14:56 - something like
14:56 - ninety two percent
14:57 - and so I'm very
14:58 - proud of that legacy
14:59 - and I'm committed
15:00 - to continuing that.
15:02 - Now you listed some priorities
15:03 - for the students as well what
15:05 - about for the
15:05 - faculty and stuff but
15:06 - what does supporting faculty and
15:07 - staff here look like for you.
15:09 - You know it's.
15:10 - Kind of similar
15:11 - we need to invest
15:12 - in their professional
15:13 - development
15:13 - for our faculty and staff.
15:15 - When we talk about
15:17 - cove it.
15:18 - Everybody's aware of
15:19 - what people in healthcare did
15:21 - I don't know if every
15:22 - one fully appreciates
15:24 - the pressure said put on
15:25 - educators at every level.
15:27 - Not just the school levels
15:29 - but at the college levels
15:30 - so we've had faculty and staff
15:33 - go the extra mile
15:34 - to invest in our student success
15:36 - so to me
15:37 - I want to make sure that they
15:39 - know we're supporting them.
15:41 - That we are investing in them
15:42 - that we want them to be here and
15:44 - succeed
15:45 - and create that belonging
15:46 - for our faculty
15:47 - and staff as well.
15:49 - Now that there are sports
15:50 - that people can participate in
15:51 - there's
15:52 - academic clubs are there any
15:53 - cultural events that you've been
15:54 - to there's there's
15:55 - arts fest there's lots of
15:56 - theatrical performances so many
15:59 - and that's what I
16:00 - love about penn state.
16:01 - I always tell stewie Odin's
16:03 - you can come to
16:04 - a large university
16:05 - and you can immediately fake
16:06 - make it feel small
16:08 - but you cannot go to a small
16:09 - university and make it big
16:10 - so in the time I've been here
16:12 - certainly arts fest I was.
16:15 - So positively impressed
16:18 - because everybody told
16:19 - me oh it'll be a huge event
16:21 - and I was like yeah yeah it's
16:22 - a college town it's incredible
16:24 - how many vendors were here
16:26 - how many people came to attend
16:28 - and musical theatre
16:29 - it's such a point of pride for
16:30 - US you probably know this
16:32 - that we admit I think.
16:34 - Twelve to fourteen
16:35 - students a year
16:36 - and we get about fifteen hundred
16:38 - applications I understand
16:39 - so it's a highly competitive
16:41 - and already
16:43 - I've been able to
16:43 - take advantage of
16:44 - several.
16:46 - Performances I
16:47 - was able to attend
16:48 - our Palmer museum
16:50 - there's so much going on.
16:52 - If I may I want to go back to
16:53 - a question you asked earlier
16:55 - about supper courting
16:56 - our faculty and staff
16:57 - and I was thinking
16:58 - about student success
17:00 - and something that I
17:01 - really need to bring up.
17:03 - Is the research enterprise
17:05 - supporting the research
17:06 - that happens at penn state.
17:08 - We have about a
17:09 - billion dollars of research
17:11 - that funding that comes to
17:13 - the the commonwealth
17:14 - because of the
17:15 - research that our
17:16 - faculty and staff do.
17:18 - That's a huge area
17:19 - that we need to support
17:21 - because when students come here
17:23 - they're being
17:23 - taught by professors
17:25 - and being taught material.
17:27 - That won't appear in
17:28 - textbooks for a few years
17:30 - so gives them a real advantage
17:32 - and that's true wherever they go
17:34 - it's one penn state
17:35 - so whether yours studying
17:36 - close to home
17:38 - or whether you're here make in
17:39 - a university park where you and
17:41 - I are today it doesn't matter
17:42 - they have access to
17:43 - that level of knowledge.
17:46 - Now this isn't the first time
17:47 - that you've been
17:47 - president of the
17:48 - university about you coming
17:49 - here is kind of a first for penn
17:50 - state you're the first woman
17:51 - and the first person of color
17:53 - to hold this position what
17:54 - does that mean to you.
17:56 - Well I've had to.
17:57 - Add the.
17:59 - Dubious distinction
18:00 - of being first woman
18:01 - first person of color.
18:02 - In pretty much
18:03 - every role I've held
18:05 - and so.
18:06 - Initially.
18:07 - I.
18:09 - Candidly.
18:10 - When I was younger I
18:10 - would really bristle at that
18:12 - I suddenly being in business I
18:14 - was executive vice president and
18:15 - someone.
18:16 - I use to be thinking.
18:17 - Oh
18:18 - I want to make sure everyone
18:19 - knows I got picked
18:20 - because I'm the
18:20 - very best at this
18:22 - and don't try to say
18:23 - put all of these
18:24 - other labels on me.
18:25 - Now though candidly
18:27 - the number of people
18:28 - who come up to me
18:29 - and say it means so much to me.
18:32 - So I learned to take it.
18:34 - Much more graciously I hope
18:36 - because because it's not true
18:38 - that you cannot be
18:39 - what you cannot see
18:41 - otherwise you would
18:42 - never have first of any kind
18:43 - but it's definitely true
18:45 - that it's a lot harder
18:46 - to be something you cannot see
18:48 - so having those
18:49 - role models matters
18:51 - but the reality is I also know
18:53 - that I will be judged
18:55 - and I will judge myself so
18:57 - by whether I have
18:58 - made life better
18:59 - for every single student.
19:01 - Every single faculty member
19:03 - staff member alumni.
19:06 - Whether they shared
19:07 - my identities or not.
19:09 - And having worked in the
19:10 - academic world for a long time
19:12 - is this a sign that there's
19:13 - a lot of growth as far as
19:14 - representation for women and
19:15 - people of color in it in higher
19:17 - positions or do
19:17 - you think there's
19:18 - a lot more work to do there's
19:19 - a lot more work to do
19:21 - and people in higher education
19:23 - I tell people outside
19:24 - higher education
19:25 - some of the people tuning in
19:27 - my tear the rhetoric
19:28 - of some people and say oh
19:30 - those are universities
19:32 - they're bastions of.
19:34 - Liberalism and surely
19:35 - there's great equity
19:37 - that is not true
19:38 - as someone who
19:39 - has proudly served on
19:40 - public and private
19:41 - company boards for
19:43 - a couple of decades
19:44 - and have worked with.
19:46 - I Saw many many businesses
19:48 - I can confidently tell you
19:50 - that academe talks a good game
19:53 - but we rarely live up
19:54 - to providing.
19:56 - The same sort of opportunities.
19:59 - So here just an
20:00 - offense that actually is.
20:02 - I'm proud
20:03 - you know is taking
20:04 - these stances and saying
20:06 - we want to be at the forefront
20:07 - and I want to acknowledge
20:08 - the legacy of penn state.
20:10 - Because at penn state
20:11 - it's not I am
20:13 - it's we are.
20:14 - An understanding
20:15 - that each of US is only as.
20:18 - As the teams and
20:18 - the families we've built
20:20 - so I want people to know
20:22 - that penn state has a
20:23 - rich legacy of being
20:25 - open and inclusive.
20:27 - The spiritual center here
20:29 - which is for all faiths
20:31 - I mean think
20:31 - they started this way back
20:33 - and of course the
20:35 - the story of we are which
20:36 - you know pretty well.
20:37 - These these things matter.
20:40 - So just in your day to day what
20:41 - does a typical day look like if
20:42 - you have such a thing.
20:44 - The beauty of it is there's
20:45 - no such thing as a typical day
20:47 - and that's not unusual for a ceo
20:48 - of any institution candidly or
20:50 - when you're in leadership
20:51 - but.
20:53 - I try to be mindful of my time
20:54 - people think it's funny
20:56 - but I know this is week
20:57 - nineteen for exam apple.
20:59 - Why is that it's not that
21:00 - I'm counting down the days
21:01 - it is that the days are
21:03 - long but the years are short
21:04 - six you don't
21:05 - really pay attention
21:06 - you could go through a
21:07 - year and say what did I really
21:09 - accomplish here
21:10 - so every given day.
21:13 - We have some scheduled
21:14 - and I have an incredible
21:16 - incredible colleague.
21:18 - My executive assistant
21:20 - had the Wilson
21:21 - I do too I do not know how
21:22 - she does what she does
21:23 - because constantly this
21:24 - change that comes up
21:26 - but what I tried to do.
21:27 - Is make sure that every day
21:29 - I'm spending time on the ab cs
21:31 - for example
21:32 - so I look back and say
21:34 - how much time am I spending
21:35 - with external constituencies
21:37 - because I need them to know no
21:38 - what can say it is all about
21:40 - how much time I'm spending
21:41 - with internal constituencies
21:43 - and in a week it
21:44 - rarely happens in a day
21:46 - but I try to.
21:48 - You know somehow
21:49 - get a little bit of time
21:50 - when I'm not caught
21:51 - up in the day-to-day.
21:52 - So one way I put it to people is
21:55 - you need to look at.
21:57 - Week ten and your ten
21:58 - if that makes sense
21:59 - so what am I working on for now
22:01 - and what am I working
22:02 - on for the long term
22:03 - for penn state.
22:05 - And at any free time you
22:06 - have what do you like to do
22:07 - and.
22:08 - Well.
22:09 - There's the
22:10 - best thing for me with free time
22:12 - and for my husband we've been
22:13 - married thirty eight years is
22:15 - that our
22:16 - baby grandson is in town a
22:17 - daughter and son
22:18 - in law moved here
22:19 - he's eighteen months old so
22:21 - Any time I have.
22:23 - I will play grandma
22:25 - because being with him
22:26 - just.
22:27 - Reminds me of the
22:28 - promise of every single child
22:30 - and that he has so much now
22:33 - and what can I do
22:34 - to provide those
22:35 - opportunities to
22:37 - other kids so I love doing that.
22:38 - I'm an avid puzzler.
22:39 - Very competitive haha.
22:41 - New York times
22:42 - sudoku I love to paint
22:44 - and I love to write.
22:46 - So I don't share the latter two
22:48 - with anyone except my husband
22:49 - he doesn't get a choice
22:50 - he has to say everything
22:51 - I write is fabulous
22:53 - and that all my artist great
22:54 - so he's not really
22:55 - public consumption
22:57 - that those are some things
22:58 - that keep me grounded.
23:00 - And now that both you and and
23:01 - your fan only now are part of
23:02 - this penn state community and
23:04 - can you talk more about that
23:05 - we are story that you mentioned
23:06 - earlier I would love to
23:08 - I find it inspiring
23:10 - so when you look
23:11 - at this institution
23:13 - and the we are spirit.
23:15 - I.
23:16 - Think it's a nineteen forty six
23:17 - football team
23:19 - where they were
23:19 - to travel to Miami
23:21 - and at the time as you know
23:23 - segregation and they were told
23:25 - of course penn state
23:26 - football you'd be welcome
23:27 - but we don't want you to bring
23:29 - your African American players
23:30 - and my understanding
23:32 - is that the team
23:33 - meets
23:34 - and they discuss
23:35 - and they say no.
23:36 - It's all or nothing
23:37 - we're all teammates
23:38 - we're just not going to go
23:40 - if you want let US bring.
23:41 - Our wallets triplet
23:43 - and so.
23:44 - That's when they
23:45 - said we are one team
23:46 - and.
23:48 - We're not going to go those are
23:49 - things I look to for inspiration
23:51 - so in here in our spirit
23:54 - that's there
23:54 - you know the better angels
23:56 - of our nature they are there
23:57 - and we need to continue
23:58 - to build upon that.
24:00 - And with that spirit in mind
24:01 - and the many priorities that you
24:03 - listed earlier.
24:04 - Just to wrap up our whole
24:06 - conversation what
24:06 - is your vision for
24:07 - the future of penn
24:08 - state while you're here.
24:09 - I want
24:10 - penn state to truly live up
24:12 - to our land Grant mission
24:13 - I want everybody in Pennsylvania
24:15 - wherever they went to school
24:17 - realize that we truly are
24:19 - as the land Grant university
24:20 - the economic engine
24:21 - for the state and so
24:23 - access and affordability.
24:25 - Economic impact
24:26 - that because of as the
24:27 - commonwealth does better
24:29 - and research that
24:30 - changes the world
24:31 - so That's that's really the goal
24:35 - and student success
24:36 - lies at the heart of it all.
24:38 - Alright nearly been deputy
24:39 - president of penn
24:40 - state university
24:41 - thank you very
24:42 - much for your time
24:42 - thank you yoga.
24:44 - I I.