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Black History of Scranton, The African American Experience

(2019) In the 1850 census four African American were documented as residents Scranton, today the community has about 5,000 residents. Over the years African Americans have made important contributions to the city in business, culture, and politics. In this episode of the African American Experience, we talk with Black Scranton Project founder Glynis Johns about the history of African Americans in Scranton.

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00:29 - WELCOME TO THE AFRICAN

00:30 - AMERICAN EXPERIENCE, I'M COREY

00:32 - CLARK. AN

00:33 - 1850 CENSUS FOR AFRICAN

00:35 - AMERICANS WERE DOCUMENTED ITS

00:37 - RESIDENTS OF SCRANTON. TODAY

00:38 - THE COMMUNITY NUMBERS ABOUT

00:41 - 5,000. OVER THE YEARS

00:42 - AFRICAN AMERICANS HAVE

00:44 - MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS

00:45 - TO BUSINESS CULTURE AND

00:47 - POLITICS IN THE

00:48 - REGION. WE'RE AT THE

00:49 - ANTHRACITE HERITAGE MUSEUM

00:50 - TO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF

00:52 - AFRICAN AMERICANS IN SCRANTON.

00:54 - JOINING US IS GLENN

00:56 - US JOBS. THE FOUNDER

00:57 - OF THE BLACK SCREEN PROJECT

00:58 - THANKS FOR JOINING US. THANKS

01:00 - VERY MUCH. WITH THE MOST OF

01:02 - THOSE 5,000 AFRICAN-AMERICAN

01:05 - SCRANTON IAN'S COME FROM.

01:07 - THEY COME FROM ALL OVER WE

01:09 - HAVE AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND BLACK

01:11 - AMERICAN FLAG. WE HAVE

01:13 - AFRICA A BLACK FOLKS ALL OVER

01:16 - THE DESK

01:18 - MAKE IN PATIENTS.

01:21 - WHO ARE FROM OTHER

01:22 - CITIES. SO WE ARE PRETTY

01:25 - DIVERSE IN TERMS OF THE

01:26 - BLACK COMMUNITY HERE.

01:28 - SO LET'S TALK ABOUT

01:30 - THE BEGINNING SO WE

01:32 - 1850 THERE WERE 4.

01:34 - WHERE DID THE FIRST AFRICAN

01:35 - AMERICANS COME FROM.

01:38 - RIGHT SO THE FIRST

01:39 - AFRICAN-AMERICAN HERE IN

01:41 - SCRANTON THAT ARE DOCUMENTED

01:43 - WHERE. A PENNSYLVANIA HAD

01:45 - GRABBED GRADUAL A LOT OF

01:47 - EVOLUTION SO.

01:50 - EVEN IN THE EARLY 1800.

01:53 - ALTHOUGH PENNSYLVANIA DID NOT.

01:56 - THE INSTITUTION OF SLAVERY

01:57 - AS SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULD

01:58 - HAVING THEIR LAND. THEIR

02:00 - CARE COMING FROM DIFFERENT

02:01 - AREAS THAT HAVE PLEASE FRAME

02:03 - FROM THE CELLPHONE BROTHER.

02:05 - WE'RE HERE IN 1800 THEY WERE

02:06 - STARTING THE EYE AND WHERE AND

02:08 - WITH THE INDUSTRY

02:09 - OF IT OF THE AREA AT

02:10 - THE TIME. SO THEY HAD WHAT THEY

02:12 - CALLED COMPANIONS ONE OF THE

02:15 - COMPANION WITH HENRY START

02:16 - WHO IS ONE OF THOSE

02:18 - REPRESENTATIVE METS AND

02:20 - STAYED THERE. SO HE CAME

02:23 - AND DURING THAT TIME YOU

02:24 - ARE EITHER. WITH THE GRADUAL

02:26 - ABOLITION ACT YOU'RE EITHER.

02:29 - A PLAY FOR X AMOUNT OF YEARS

02:31 - THAT WE WOULD LIKE OR TEAM

02:32 - CRAFTED THE AGE OF 26 TO

02:34 - 21. THEY WOULD GREEN YOUR

02:37 - SLEEVE YOU HAVE FOR YOUR

02:38 - SLEEVES SO HENRY START GOT HIS

02:40 - FREEDOM BE ONE OF THOSE PLAYS.

02:41 - I THINK BECAUSE HE WAS THE

02:43 - YOUNG MAN AT THE HE WAS ABLE TO

02:44 - AID HIS FREEDOM AND WE'RE

02:46 - GOING TO THE SILK ABOUT IT IN

02:47 - THE I WORD. I'M IN THE EYE

02:49 - AND INDUSTRY FROM THAT HE ARE

02:51 - KIDS AND WAS INCREDIBLY

02:52 - SUCCESSFUL HERE. HE WAS SELLING

02:54 - GOODS TO SOME OF THE MOST

02:55 - PROMINENT PEOPLE AND IN THE

02:57 - AREA AT THE TIME. IT'S GRANDSON

02:59 - WAS CONSIDERED SO COME HOLLOW

03:01 - THE AN 1800. TO SELLING GOODS

03:04 - THERE AND HE WAS ABLE TO MAKE A

03:05 - THE FANS WILL AMOUNT OF WEALTH

03:07 - AND PHILADELPHIA, AN 3 MERCHANT

03:09 - AISLE, SHOPS AND THE AND THE

03:12 - CITY OF PHILADELPHIA. IT'S

03:13 - PRETTY COOL THOUGH THEY WOULD

03:15 - FOLLOW HIM. THE

03:16 - PHILADELPHIA IT REALLY LEE

03:19 - 1800. I KNEW WHAT HE WAS ONE OF

03:21 - THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN HERE

03:22 - WITH THE NAME. AS EARLY

03:24 - AS THE YEAR CONTENDER.

03:26 - WHAT KIND OF JOBS THAT BAD.

03:31 - I'M ABOUT TO FACE AND

03:32 - THAT I'M ABLE TO FIND.

03:35 - ALL ARE HAPPENING AND LIKE THE

03:37 - 1800'S LIKE YOU CAN

03:39 - 601870'S ABOUT EVEN INTO THE

03:42 - 1950'S NORTH AFRICAN AMERICANS

03:43 - WERE DISTILLING DOMESTIC WORK.

03:46 - LABOR CAPE COD.

03:47 - BIG INDUSTRIES WERE NOT REALLY

03:49 - AVAILABLE TO AFRICAN

03:50 - AMERICANS IN THIS AREA.

03:52 - SO YOU WOULD SEE A LOT OF

03:54 - SEAMSTRESSES WORKING AT HOME.

03:56 - A MAN HAS LABORED AND ALSO LIKE

03:58 - THERE IS AN BUTLER'S

03:59 - WORKING AT RESTAURANTS.

04:02 - I JUST WANT TO BACKTRACK A

04:03 - LITTLE BIT YOU TALKED ABOUT

04:04 - SLAVERY WAS THERE A CONNECTION

04:07 - TO THE UNDERGROUND

04:08 - RAILROAD AND THIS AREA.

04:09 - YEAH THERE'S A

04:10 - STRONG CONNECTION THE

04:11 - UNDERGROUND RAILROAD.

04:12 - NOT ONLY IS GRANDSON BUT THE

04:13 - NORTHEASTERN PENNSYLVANIA

04:14 - REGION SPECIFICALLY.

04:17 - AND WE REALLY PENNSYLVANIA,

04:18 - NOT FAR FROM HERE. THERE

04:21 - A FREE A FREE BLACK

04:22 - SETTLEMENT AND A LOT OF THOSE

04:25 - INDIVIDUALS ARE USING AN

04:26 - UNDERGROUND RAILROAD AND MAKING

04:27 - THEIR WAY TO WAVERLEY

04:28 - PENNSYLVANIA UNSETTLING ON

04:30 - CARBONDALE ROAD. IT IN A

04:31 - LOCATION THAT IT'S CALLED COLOR

04:34 - HILL AT THE TIME.

04:35 - AND SO IT WAS A

04:36 - DESTINATION WAS UNKNOWN.

04:41 - UNFORTUNATELY SCRANTON KIND

04:43 - OF HAD MIXED A MIX OF VIEWS ON

04:45 - SLAVERY AND EMANCIPATION AND

04:47 - ALSO THE ABOLITIONIST MOVEMENT

04:49 - SO WE HAD SOME

04:49 - FOLKS IN THE CITY.

04:50 - THEY'RE ALL FOR HELPING THE

04:51 - BLACK POPULATION GAIN THEIR

04:53 - FREEDOM. WE ALSO HAD

04:54 - ANOTHER SIDE WHO FIGHTING

04:56 - FOR LONG TO MAKE SURE THAT IF

04:58 - THERE'S A BOUNTY HUNTER COMING

05:00 - FROM THE ONCE THEY'RE CLEANED

05:01 - PROPERTY BACK IF THEY GO BACK.

05:03 - SO BACK TO WAY REALLY

05:05 - THIS WAS SOMETHING

05:06 - THAT THE CITY WAS VERY PROUD OF

05:08 - HOWEVER THERE WITH AS MANY

05:09 - ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES, SO A

05:10 - LOT OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS

05:11 - THAT WERE PART

05:12 - OF THIS 3 BLACK SETTLEMENT

05:14 - AND WE REALLY WERE COMING TO

05:15 - SCRANTON FROM ORANGE TREE SO

05:17 - KNOW IN THE MID 1800 WE SAW

05:19 - THAT POPULATION MOVING INTO THE

05:21 - SCRANTON AREA FOR MORE

05:22 - OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT

05:25 - I MEAN YOU KNOW WHERE OR SO

05:26 - THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET ENOUGH

05:28 - AND THAT WE WORK

05:28 - THAT WEREN'T SEEN AS A.

05:33 - AVERAGE FOR AN AVERAGE

05:34 - BLACK AMERICAN DURING THAT TIME.

05:36 - AND WHAT WERE THE BIG

05:37 - INDUSTRIES IN THIS WE WERE

05:39 - SITTING ANTHRACITE COAL MUSEUM.

05:41 - SO CLEAR THAT WAS A A SURE

05:43 - SOMEWHERE. MAJOR INDUSTRIES ARE

05:46 - OUT THERE.

05:47 - SO IN SCRANTON COAL IS KING

05:48 - NOW WITH THE BIG ENOUGH TO

05:50 - WEAR. THE EWING MOST OF THE

05:51 - UNITED STATES AT THE TIME AND

05:53 - SO A LOT OF FOLKS ARE

05:54 - COMING HERE LOOKING.

05:58 - AND THE MINDS IN OUR AREA AND

05:59 - SCRANTON WHERE PRETTY MUCH

06:01 - DEDICATED TO WHITE ETHNIC

06:03 - GROUPS OR TALKING IRISH AND

06:05 - ITALIAN FOLKS HAD

06:06 - THEIR STAKES IN THE MINE,

06:07 - HOWEVER, AFRICAN-AMERICAN JUST

06:09 - NEVER HAD THAT ABILITY TO BE IN

06:10 - THE MINE. HAD THIS CONVERSATION

06:12 - A LOT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE

06:14 - WE KNOW THAT THIS THING

06:15 - IN THE REGION AND THERE'S

06:17 - SO MUCH AND INDUSTRIAL

06:18 - BOOM AROUND COLD.

06:21 - AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE NOT

06:22 - ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

06:25 - TRANSITION IN AMERICAN

06:26 - HISTORY AT THE TIME.

06:28 - SO AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE

06:29 - BASICALLY THE 2 GUARDS OF MINE

06:32 - THAT. WELL THE NEWS YOU CAN

06:33 - GET OR IS THE RARE INSTANCES

06:35 - BREAKER BOYS AND THINGS

06:36 - LIKE THAT. BUT FOR THE MOST PART

06:38 - COLIN HERE IT IS RIGHT.

06:42 - AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT

06:44 - I HOLD AGAIN. ANYBODY AND WHEN

06:45 - AND SO THE RELATIVE AND JUST

06:47 - ONE INDUSTRY THAT WE'RE IN AND

06:49 - SO I LIKE TO FOCUS ON THAT THE

06:51 - SPOTS THAT WE WERE IN AND

06:52 - KIND OF WHAT THAT MEANS TO.

06:55 - YEAH.

06:55 - JUST TO TALK ABOUT COAL,

06:56 - SO YOU WERE UNABLE TO FIND A

06:58 - SINGLE BLACK COAL MINE NOT FROM

07:00 - SCRANTON SPECIFICALLY. SO THERE

07:03 - I FOUND A COUPLE MY MINERS,

07:04 - THE TICKETS, A HOST OF LOVE

07:06 - THERE.

07:08 - AND OTHER PARTS OF LUZERNE

07:09 - COUNTY THAT'S THE COUNTY TODAY.

07:14 - ANY DOCUMENTATION OF

07:15 - SCRANTON RESIDENT COAL MINER AN

07:18 - AFRICAN-AMERICAN IN THE MINE

07:19 - IN THIS GRANT FROM THE MINE WAS

07:21 - NOT ABLE TO FIND THEM. I WAS

07:23 - ABLE TO FIND EXAMPLES OF THE

07:25 - I WAS ABLE TO FIND EXAMPLES OF

07:27 - PEOPLE TRYING TO DO THAT

07:29 - THERE IT. A FEW. MINING MAKE

07:32 - THAT HAPPEN. AND THEY WOULD

07:34 - BE HOW MINERS TO COME TO

07:36 - THE AREA AND WORK IN THE

07:37 - MINE WHEN THE POPE HAD LEFT

07:38 - THE MINE. THE ONE INSTANCE,

07:40 - THERE'S A THERE'S A TRAIN

07:41 - COMING INTO THE CITY FROM

07:42 - VIRGINIA THAT HAS SOME CONDIT

07:44 - CONVICTS TO WEAR IT. WE DURING

07:47 - THE COMICALLY SYSTEM TO COME

07:48 - TO THE AREA AND BE IN THE MINES

07:50 - WHEN THEY GOT UP THAT RAIN AND

07:51 - ALL THAT IT WAS BLACK MEN FROM

07:52 - VIRGINIA, A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS

07:54 - THAT WERE THAT HAD LEFT THE

07:55 - MINE CAME BACK TO THEIR JOBS.

07:57 - THEY WANT TO BE AFRICAN-AMERICAN

07:59 - IN OUR CITY COAL MINE.

08:02 - IT WAS WHETHER AN INDUSTRY THAT

08:03 - THEY FELT COMFORTABLE

08:04 - HAVING A BLACK PEOPLE.

08:05 - WAS IT SYSTEMATIC I MEAN

08:07 - WHERE THEY'RE LIKE OFFICIAL

08:08 - RULES IN PLACE.

08:09 - IT WASN'T IT WAS A

08:10 - SYSTEMATIC I THINK IT WAS JUST

08:12 - KIND OF THOUGH THE LAW OF THE

08:14 - LAND OR WHAT PEOPLE PERCEIVE

08:16 - YOU AS ACCEPTABLE ACCEPTABLE

08:18 - PLACE WERE ACCEPTABLE

08:19 - WORKPLACES FOR

08:20 - AFRICAN AMERICANS.

08:21 - AND THEY DIDN'T SEE CALL IT

08:23 - THE INDUSTRY FOR BLACK PEOPLE.

08:26 - SO WHAT WERE SOME

08:27 - OF THE INDUSTRIES THAT.

08:29 - BOY FOR LOUDON MOST IN I

08:31 - SAW A LOT OF DISHWASHER

08:34 - LABOR. RELIEVERS SO THEY'RE

08:36 - DOING ANYTHING A LOT OF HAULING

08:38 - A WHOLE PRODUCT AROUND

08:40 - THE CITY WITH ANOTHER

08:41 - THING WOMEN WERE SEEN THIS IS

08:43 - LONGER SAYS. WHERE SERVERS AND

08:45 - RESTAURANT, SAME THING WITH MEN.

08:51 - A POPULAR HOCKEY NATION

08:52 - AND THE CITY DURING THAT TIME.

08:56 - YEAH THOSE ARE THE BIG ONE SO A

08:58 - LOT OF DOMESTIC WORK

08:59 - FOR WOMEN AND A LOT OF

09:00 - RELIEVER JOBS FOR MEN TO

09:02 - THEY'RE PICKING UP KIND OF GUY

09:04 - WHERE THEY COULD. WELL

09:06 - UNTIL ABOUT THE 1950'S

09:09 - OR SO THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH THE

09:11 - MAIN OCCUPATION THAT I WAS ABLE

09:12 - TO FIND IN TERMS OF I MEAN,

09:14 - BUT THEN WE HAD SOME OUTLIERS

09:16 - THERE'S A FEW BARBER HERE.

09:18 - WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL

09:18 - BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN THE CITY

09:20 - OF SCRANTON. AND

09:24 - BOTH WHO WERE GETTING

09:25 - THEIR HANDS ON EDUCATION

09:26 - BY THE 1950'S YOU START SEEING

09:28 - AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN TAKING

09:29 - UP JOBS AS TEACHERS. BUT FOR

09:31 - THE MOST PART THERE WAS AN END

09:33 - SORT OF. WORK

09:34 - OPPORTUNITIES THAT PROVIDED.

09:37 - ECONOMIC GROW AND EVEN

09:38 - GENERATIONAL ECONOMIC.

09:43 - THEY LIVE IN DIFFERENT PARTS

09:45 - OF THE THE TOWN OF WHAT WE'RE

09:47 - MOST OF IT AFRICAN

09:48 - AMERICANS CONCENTRATED.

09:49 - THE BLACK COMMUNITY WITH

09:51 - CONCENTRATED IN THE DOWNTOWN

09:52 - AREA OF SCRANTON WELL INTO THE

09:55 - 1960'S.

09:56 - SO AND SCRANTON EARLY

09:58 - HISTORY THIS AS IT IS TODAY

10:00 - DOWNTOWN CLEAR WITH THE HUB OF

10:02 - INDUSTRY. SO A LOT OF ENTRANCES

10:04 - TO THE IN AND OUT OF COAL MINES

10:05 - ARE HAPPENING IN THE DOWNTOWN

10:06 - AREA BEGIN TO SEE HER THERE.

10:08 - YEAH, IT'S AFFECTING RAIL LINE

10:10 - PEOPLE WERE TAKING PASSENGER

10:11 - TRAIN DIFFERENT PLACES SO

10:12 - THE HUB OF A LOT OF INDUSTRIES.

10:14 - SO IN BETWEEN ALL OF THAT THERE

10:17 - A COURT ALLEY AND

10:18 - THAT'S WHERE THE

10:19 - BLACK COMMUNITY WAS LIVING

10:21 - THE LIVING IN THE DARK IT.

10:24 - PARTS OF THE CITY THAT NO

10:25 - ONE REALLY WE'RE SEEING THEIR

10:27 - LIVING NEXT TO A HOTEL

10:28 - BECAUSE THEY WERE

10:30 - STEWARDESSES AND SERVER AND

10:33 - THINGS LIKE THAT. SO

10:35 - FOR A LONG TIME THE BLACK

10:36 - COMMUNITY WAS LIVING IN THAT.

10:37 - STANDING COUNT AS THEY

10:39 - CALL THEM AT THE TIME, A SMALL

10:41 - LITTLE SHACK AND BALLROOM.

10:43 - AROUND THE CITY OF SCRANTON

10:45 - AND THERE WASN'T MUCH

10:46 - OPPORTUNITY TO BUY PROPERTY IN

10:48 - OTHER PARTS, A CITY OF

10:49 - BRANSON. AND I WAS ABLE TO

10:51 - KIND OF FOLLOW TRENDS AND

10:53 - HOUSING FOR A WHILE AND THAT

10:54 - WAS A BIG THING THERE WERE A

10:56 - LOT OF. A REAL ESTATE COMPANIES

10:59 - THERE.

11:04 - THE PEOPLE WERE NOT OFFERING

11:06 - THOSE AND PEOPLE OF COLOR,

11:07 - SPECIFICALLY BLACK PEOPLE.

11:09 - HE SAID COURTS IN ALLEY

11:10 - STATES. SOME OF THESE PLACES

11:12 - HIM IN AND FACT COURT.

11:18 - A COURT IN OR I LOVE

11:20 - YOUR PLACE BECAUSE

11:21 - THE AFRICAN AMERICAN

11:23 - PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING.

11:24 - YEAH SO THAT WAS ONE THING SO

11:27 - SOME OF THE MAJOR OF COURSE AN

11:29 - ALLEY THAT THE BLACK COMMUNITY

11:31 - WERE LIVING AT OF RAIN IN

11:33 - COURT. DOWNTOWN.

11:36 - WE COURT WITH ANOTHER

11:37 - ONE CENTER STREET IS FAMILIAR

11:39 - FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE DOWNTOWN

11:41 - COFFEE SHOP THERE NOW.

11:43 - IT'S BEEN SEGMENTED BY A LOT

11:49 - OF THE VOTE POPULATED. AND NOW

11:51 - HE'S FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

11:53 - IF YOU ARE BLACK.

11:55 - AND THE 1880'S ABOUT THE

11:56 - 1920'S, YOU'RE LIVING

11:57 - FOUR-QUARTER YOU'RE LIVING

11:58 - IRANIAN COURT ON THE C HOSPITAL

12:00 - USED TO SIT RIGHT NEXT TO

12:02 - RAYMOND COURSE A LOT

12:03 - OF FOLKS ARE LIVING THERE.

12:06 - MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING.

12:10 - UP UNTIL THE

12:12 - WITH THE NEW DEAL

12:13 - AND THE WPA PROJECT

12:15 - THAT'S A NATIONAL SURVEY

12:17 - HOUSING CONDITIONS AND SO THAT

12:19 - WAS HAPPENING HERE IN A CELL

12:22 - FROM THE 1930'S IN THE 1950'S

12:24 - AND 60'S. THE SURVEYS ARE

12:26 - HELPING TO BUILD ACCEPTABLE

12:28 - HOUSING FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS.

12:31 - EVEN THOUGH THIS IS

12:33 - HAPPENING THERE IS STILL A LOT

12:34 - OF DISCRIMINATION IN TERMS OF

12:36 - WHERE THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO

12:37 - LIVE.

12:38 - THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEM OUT

12:39 - OF THE COURT NOW

12:39 - IS THAT WE'RE SEEN

12:40 - AS UNLIVABLE STILL THE

12:42 - CRIME RATE IN ALL OF THESE LIKE

12:44 - NEGATIVE ASPECTS TO WHERE THEY

12:47 - ARE HAD TO CALL HOME. BUT THEY

12:48 - DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THEY WANTED

12:50 - TO PUT THE NEW COMMUNITY

12:51 - OF PEOPLE IN OUR CITY.

12:53 - SO THEY STARTED TO BUILD A LOW

12:54 - INCOME HOUSING OF APARTMENT

12:56 - UNITS. HOW LOW INCOME HOUSING

12:59 - PROJECT AROUND THE CITY AND

13:02 - THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE

13:05 - I'M IN TOWN APARTMENT AND

13:06 - DIFFERENT HOUSING COMPLEX CLOSE

13:08 - TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

13:09 - THAT'S ALSO A WHOLE NOTHER.

13:14 - YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE

13:16 - SOME SUCCESSFUL

13:17 - BARBERS. ONE OF THEM

13:19 - JACKSON MERRYWEATHER YOU

13:21 - TALK ABOUT HIM WHO NEVER MARRY

13:23 - WEATHER HAS AN INCREDIBLE

13:25 - HE'S FROM VIRGINIA. HE

13:26 - WAS BORN AS A SLAVE.

13:29 - WHEN THE CIVIL WAR BROKE

13:30 - OUT THERE WAS A READING MAN.

13:35 - GREAT WITH CIVIL WAR

13:36 - TERMINOLOGY. BUT THERE IS THE.

13:43 - CAPTAIN DARBY AND SO HE WAS

13:44 - GATHERING A MAN FROM FRANCE

13:46 - AND AND. SCRANTON AND DUNMORE

13:48 - AT YOU HEAD DOWN SOUTH TO FIND

13:50 - THEM.

13:53 - THE ORAL HISTORY HAS IT

13:54 - CAPTAIN DARBY TOOK HIS BOAT TO

13:57 - VIRGINIA AND WHEREVER

13:58 - MERRYWEATHER IN VIRGINIA WAS

14:00 - LIVING AT THE TIME I WAS

14:01 - NEARBY THEIR CAMP AND SO HE

14:02 - WAS PLAYING WITH HIM AND JOKING

14:04 - AROUND WITH SOME OLDER AND

14:06 - THEY BECAME VERY CLOSE. AND FROM

14:09 - THERE. LIVING STORIES

14:11 - LEFT AND BASICALLY

14:13 - HELPED HIM GAIN HIS FREEDOM

14:15 - ALONG THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD

14:17 - BECAUSE JACKSON MARY WHEN

14:18 - MOTHER ENDED UP COMING TO THE

14:20 - CITY OF SCRANTON AND ABOUT

14:23 - 1862. AND AT THAT TIME HE WOULD

14:25 - HAVE BEEN 15 YEARS OLD. SO

14:27 - WHEN HE WAS 15 YEAR-OLD IN UNION

14:30 - ARMY

14:32 - I BECAME A CITIZEN IN SCRANTON

14:34 - AFTER THE WAR WAS OVER

14:36 - AND FROM THERE HE BECAME

14:37 - A BARBER MEAN VERY VERY

14:39 - SUCCESSFUL BUYER HERE

14:40 - IN THE CITY OF SCRANTON.

14:42 - AND ONLY A FEW BARBER SHOPS

14:43 - ALONG THE DOWNTOWN. HE HAD WAS

14:45 - SHOT ON AVENUE. HE HAD A SHOT

14:48 - ON WYOMING AVENUE. PLACES HE

14:50 - ALSO BECAME A COMMUNITY LEADER

14:52 - AFTER BEING A BARBER'S SO

14:54 - HE WAS THE CALLER REPUBLICAN

14:56 - CLUB WITH PLAY.

14:58 - A GROUP OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN

14:59 - MEN WHO ARE FIGHTING FOR THEIR

15:01 - RIGHT AND PRIVILEGE TO VOTE.

15:02 - A

15:04 - HE WAS ALSO INVOLVED HEAVILY

15:06 - WITH BETHEL AME CHURCH.

15:09 - WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN

15:11 - CHURCH HERE IN THE CITY OF

15:12 - SCRANTON CITY DOING A LOT

15:14 - OF WORK. THEY'RE HE WAS VERY

15:16 - PROMINENT SUCCESSFUL AT THE

15:17 - TIME AND WAS INTERESTING IN THE

15:19 - CITY WOULD CALL

15:20 - WOULD OFTEN CALL HIM.

15:23 - THEY SAID HE IS HE'S A

15:24 - BLACK MAN WITH A WHITE SOUL.

15:26 - I ALWAYS THOUGHT I'D BE REALLY

15:28 - INTERESTING HOW THEY WOULD

15:29 - CATEGORIZE THEM

15:30 - IN HE WAS YEAH IS IT

15:32 - CONSIDERED A COMPLIMENT YOU.

15:34 - THE BLACK BUT ON THE INSIDE

15:35 - YOU MORE WHITE VOTERS. SO YOU

15:37 - VERY VERY AFFECTED. THE WHITE

15:48 - LEAVE THAT CHILD TO BEING

15:50 - A SUCCESSFUL BARBER. AND

15:51 - HIS MAIN WHILE HE WAS IN

15:53 - FLAMES WAS DONE MINE WEATHER

15:54 - AND BUT HE WAS GETTING ALL

15:56 - OF HIS MILITARY PENSION AND THAT

15:57 - MEANS I ALWAYS FELT LIKE THAT

15:59 - WAS KIND OF RECLAIMING. AND

16:01 - FLAMES PAST THAT HE HAD.

16:06 - BLACK VETERANS OF

16:07 - THE CIVIL WAR HERE.

16:08 - THERE

16:11 - THE T A R HAD THEIR

16:14 - ORGANIZATION HERE IN THE CITY.

16:15 - THERE'S EVEN A BUILDING ON.

16:17 - I'M PENN AVENUE THAT WITH

16:19 - THE GR BUILDING OF THE TIME.

16:21 - SO THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF

16:24 - AFRICAN AMERICAN VETERANS

16:25 - OF THE CIVIL WAR, AND THEY'RE

16:27 - LIVING HERE IN THE I THINK

16:29 - FROM MY RECORDS AND I WAS ABLE

16:30 - TO FIND THERE HAD TO BE ABOUT 8

16:32 - OF THEM. THEY ALL HAVE THEIR

16:33 - OWN DIFFERENT STORY THAN HOW

16:35 - THEY GOT HERE IN DIFFERENT WAYS

16:36 - BUT THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF

16:38 - NOT THAT MANY BUT THEY WERE

16:39 - DEFINITELY INVOLVED AND

16:41 - FROM THE THERE. THEIR ACTIVISM

16:43 - WITHIN THEIR MILITARY

16:45 - PARTICIPATION.

16:47 - THERE WAS A MAN THOMAS HOUSE

16:49 - VERY FAMOUSLY WAS HAD A HOUSING

16:51 - ISSUE COMMUTE. I DON'T KNOW

16:53 - HIS STORY.

16:54 - HERE'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE

16:55 - STORIES ACTUALLY FELL.

16:57 - SO THOMAS HE HOW HE

16:59 - CAME TO IN THE 1880'S.

17:02 - HE WORKED FOR THE W BROWN GRAIN

17:05 - WHICH WAS AT THE TIME.

17:07 - ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL.

17:10 - AND HAULING COMPANIES

17:11 - OF THE TIME IN NORTHEASTERN

17:12 - PENNSYLVANIA. WE CAME HERE

17:14 - AND WAS WORKING FOR GEORGE W

17:17 - YOU MOVE UP IN THE RANKINGS A

17:19 - BIT OF THE BUSINESS TO BECOME A

17:20 - BOOKKEEPER AFTER BECAME A FOLK

17:23 - I DECIDED THAT HE WANTED

17:25 - BECOME A U.S. CITIZEN HE'S

17:26 - ORIGINALLY FROM GRACE DIANA

17:30 - THIS WOULD MAKE 11.

17:32 - EARLY 1911 I WANT TO SAY WITH

17:33 - BROWN MARCH FEBRUARY MARCH,

17:35 - THE WHOLE. SO HE DECIDED THAT I

17:38 - WANT TO FIGHT FOR CITIZENSHIP

17:39 - AND HE WAS ABLE TO DO SO.

17:41 - AND MARCH OF 9 TO THE HOUSE

17:44 - UNABLE TO BECOME THE FIRST A

17:47 - BLACK A U.S. CITIZEN GRANDSON

17:50 - NATURALIZATION COURTS.

17:54 - AND ALSO CONSIDERING

17:55 - OUR IMMIGRATION.

17:58 - A FEW MONTHS AFTER THAT IN THE

18:00 - SPRING OF 1911 HE DECIDED

18:01 - THAT HE WANTS TO BUY PROPERTY.

18:03 - HE WANTED TO BUY A HOME

18:05 - FOR HIM THIS FAMILY. FOUND

18:07 - A HOUSE AND THE HILL SECTION

18:09 - OF GRANT IN 19 O 5 PRESCOTT

18:11 - AVENUE. SO HE MOVED HIS FAMILY

18:14 - THERE. BUT THE COMMUNITY DO NOT

18:17 - LIKE IT AT ALL. PEOPLE

18:19 - WERE UP IN ARMS. THE

18:21 - FOLKS, I'M PRESCOTT

18:22 - AVENUE ARE LIKE.

18:24 - THIS MAN IS GOING TO LESSEN OUR

18:26 - PROPERTY VALUE WE'RE NOW READY

18:28 - TO BE A BLACK MAN ON OUR BLOG.

18:31 - ISLAND DEMO TURN OUR

18:32 - COMMUNITY INTO THIS LIKE PROTEST

18:35 - BLAZE. IF YOU LIVE HERE WE HAVE

18:37 - TO PAY A FENCE AROUND THE HOUSE

18:39 - SO THAT WAY HIS THING SAYING

18:41 - HIS AND WE'RE GOING TO PAINT IT

18:42 - WHITE ON ONE SIDE BLACK ON THE

18:43 - OTHER SIDE WE'RE GOING

18:44 - A BOTTLE THROUGH IT.

18:48 - THE COMMUNITY ON PRESCOTT

18:50 - AVENUE GOT TOGETHER.

18:51 - AND WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED

18:53 - PRESS THAT ELEMENTARY 4TH DAY.

18:55 - THEY GATHERED THERE AND NOW

18:56 - THE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET TO

18:57 - CLASS AND OFF OF OUR BLOCK.

18:59 - SO THEY DECIDED TO MONEY.

19:03 - I THINK WITH ALL THE DOLLARS

19:05 - THAT FIRST. THANK YOU

19:06 - 112 DAYS. CLOSE LIKE $15,000

19:09 - SOMETHING LIKE.

19:11 - SO THEY GOT TOGETHER THEY

19:12 - RAISED THE MONEY THEY COULD SIT

19:13 - DOWN WITH JOY THE HOUSE AND.

19:17 - THEY SAY TO HIM HERE LOOK WE

19:19 - HAVE MONEY FOR YOU MOVE CAN YOU

19:20 - NOT THE PROPERTY IN THAT.

19:23 - NO BECAUSE IT COST ME $3400

19:25 - TO BUY THE PROPERTY SO IF YOU

19:27 - RAISE THE MONEY THEN I WILL

19:29 - CONSIDER MOVING OUT A WEEK

19:31 - LATER THEY REACH $3400.

19:36 - 2018 STANDARDS THAT WE'RE

19:38 - LOOKING AT LIKE A $25,000 OF

19:40 - THING.

19:42 - SO IN 2 WEEKS THEY'RE ABLE TO

19:43 - RAISE THAT MUCH MONEY. THEY GO

19:45 - BACK TO THAT.

19:48 - AT THIS POINT THEY'RE CRACKED

19:49 - EVERYWHERE, EVERYONE AROUND 2

19:51 - POINT OUT THAT.

19:53 - THEY LET HIM DOWN WE HAVE

19:56 - $3400 ARE YOU READY

19:57 - TO MOVE HE SAID $5,000.

19:59 - AND EVERYONE OF ALL THAT

20:01 - AND THE PEOPLE BECAUSE HE SAID

20:02 - MY CITY $400 FOR ME TO MOVE

20:04 - EVERYTHING IS GOING TO CAUSE

20:06 - ALL THE MORE MONEY ON THAT.

20:08 - YEAH I'VE BEEN HERE I'VE LIVED

20:09 - HERE AND HE SAYS EVERYONE I'VE

20:11 - NEVER LIVED IN THE COURTS AND

20:12 - ALLIE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO

20:13 - MAKE ME I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT

20:14 - NOW AND COMING FROM BRITISH

20:16 - GUIANA AND TO ME THAT'S A LOT

20:18 - BECAUSE EVEN. HIMSELF.

20:20 - A SUCCESSFUL MAN JUST TRYING TO

20:22 - LIVE HIS LIFE HE BECAME A U.S.

20:23 - CITIZEN AND WE CAN'T EVEN LIVE

20:24 - WHERE HE WANTS TO IN THE CITY

20:26 - OF SCRANTON NOT ANY WRITTEN

20:27 - RULES ON SEGREGATION, IT'S JUST

20:29 - THAT AND HE WANTED.

20:31 - SO IT WAS VERY PUBLIC THERE

20:32 - WAS NO WRITTEN RULES, BUT THERE

20:34 - WAS VERY PUBLIC IN A SORT

20:35 - OF OFFICIAL THE WEATHER JERRY

20:37 - PUBLIC.

20:38 - THE WAY THAT THEY

20:38 - WROTE ABOUT IN THE PAPERS.

20:40 - WOODS STEERING TOWARDS A LOT OF

20:42 - RACISM A LOT OF

20:43 - BIGOTRY TOWARD HIM.

20:46 - BUT HE ENDED UP SAYING THIS.

20:49 - A POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE

20:50 - CITY GAVE HIM SOME PROTECTION.

20:52 - I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT

20:54 - THAT WAS BUT HE LIVES IN THAT

20:55 - PROPERTY FOR LIKE LEAST

20:57 - 10 MORE YEARS AND MANY IN

20:58 - MOVING TO PHILADELPHIA ABOUT 15

21:00 - YEARS LATER AFTER THE

21:01 - INCIDENT WHERE WE'VE BEEN

21:02 - WE'LL NEVER REALLY KNOW,

21:04 - BUT I'M ASSUMING IT BECAUSE HE'S

21:05 - PROBABLY TIRED OF BEING TREATED

21:07 - IN HARASSED ME THAT HE WAS

21:08 - HERE. BUT I LIKE TO SAY THAT IT

21:10 - WASN'T FOR THOMAS HOWES AND HIS

21:12 - FIGHT. HILL SECTION ONE BE AS

21:13 - DIVERSE AS IT IS TODAY, ONE OF

21:15 - OUR DIVERSE MOST OF OUR

21:16 - NEIGHBORHOODS IN SCRANTON IT'S

21:18 - A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD

21:20 - AND IF IT WASN'T FOR HIS

21:21 - PERSEVERANCE WHO KNOWS HOW LONG

21:23 - WOULD BE FOR CHRIS BLACK PERSON

21:24 - CAN MOVE ON THE

21:25 - BLOCK RIGHT SO HIS STORY

21:26 - TO ME HAS BEEN INSPIRING STORY

21:30 - FOR ANYONE. KNOWS WHAT'S RIGHT.

21:34 - AND YOU HAVE THE

21:34 - OPPORTUNITY TO DO

21:35 - SOMETHING YOU SHOULD

21:36 - BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING

21:37 - AND THAT MEANS PUSHING AGAINST

21:38 - AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND PUSHING

21:40 - AND ALL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS

21:41 - AND FROM TIME TO DO THAT.

21:43 - AND YOU MENTIONED THAT

21:45 - HE WORKED FOR. GW BROWN

21:47 - DRAYMOND WHO IS GEORGE W

21:50 - BROWN. GEORGE W BROWN ALSO.

21:52 - AMAZING FIGURE IN SCRANTON

21:54 - AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY.

21:57 - GEORGE W GROUND WAS A BUSINESS

21:59 - OWNER. HE STARTED OUT AND JUST

22:02 - A LEVER USED FROM 10 MARYLAND.

22:06 - HE MOVED HERE.

22:08 - I WANT TO SING THE

22:09 - 1970 THEIR CELL

22:10 - LUCAS GRANDSON, AND SOME TIME

22:12 - AND WE REALLY THE FAMILY OF A

22:13 - CHILD ON THE PHONE RECORDS

22:15 - THAT SHOW THAT HE WAS GOING TO

22:16 - SCHOOL MONTH OTHER FOLKS AND

22:18 - WE REALLY I THAT I WAS GETTING

22:20 - A BIT FROM THERE HE WENT TO THE

22:22 - CITY OF SCRANTON AND JUST

22:23 - DOING A JOB FOR THE YOUNG

22:27 - IT'S LIKE BEING IN HOLLYWOOD

22:28 - CONSIDERED ARE THANKFUL

22:29 - BUSINESS FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS

22:31 - AT THE TIME SO THAT FOR

22:33 - YOU WORKING IN A OPENING

22:34 - HIS OWN BUSINESS AND IT BECAME

22:37 - QUICKLY THE FESTIVAL. HE WAS

22:39 - KNOWN FOR BEING VERY VERY

22:41 - PROFESSIONAL IN THE WAY TO

22:42 - HANDLE THINGS AND TALK ABOUT

22:43 - HOW CREDIBLE HE WAS THAT MOVIE,

22:45 - YOU KNOW THE THING HE WAS HIGH.

22:49 - A DIFFERENT MATERIAL ACROSS

22:50 - THE TRI-STATES SO THAT EVEN JUST

22:52 - AND NORTHEAST OF MANIA BUT

22:54 - THE DELAWARE SHORE. SOMETIMES IN

22:56 - NEW JERSEY, SO.

22:58 - THEY'RE IN WITH YOU WRITE

22:59 - QUITE READY TO MOVE HIM AS A THE

23:01 - SCHOOL BUSINESS OWNER. A 1920

23:04 - 50 PASSED AWAY AND HIS WIFE

23:05 - MISSING WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR

23:07 - OVER BUSINESS AND

23:08 - MADE IT EVEN MORE.

23:11 - THEY WERE GROSSING ABOUT A

23:12 - MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE IN 2

23:13 - DAYS AND ABOUT $70,000.

23:20 - THEY WEAR REALLY.

23:24 - THE BACKBONE OF THE BLACK

23:25 - COMMUNITY HERE HE HAS

23:26 - THE MOST WELL THEY HAVE THE

23:28 - MOST POWER THE MOST INFLUENCE

23:29 - IN THE CITY OF SCRANTON AND

23:30 - WE'RE REALLY SEEING ON BEHALF

23:32 - OF AFRICAN AMERICANS

23:33 - HERE AND THE LATE

23:34 - 1800'S IN THE EARLY

23:35 - 1900 THERE WASN'T AND HE

23:37 - CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR

23:38 - CITY THAT REPEATING

23:40 - THE BLACK POPULATION. WE

23:46 - A FRIEND OF HOMELESSNESS

23:47 - OR SOME SORT OF CHARITABLE

23:49 - ORGANIZATION AND THAT WAS

23:50 - CATERING MAINLY TO THE IRISH

23:52 - COMMUNITY THAT WAS HERE.

23:54 - BUT THERE WASN'T ANY OR MAYBE

23:55 - THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO THAT SO

23:57 - JOIN JIMMY BROWN AND HIS

23:58 - WIFE MISSING BELIEVE THEY WERE

24:00 - GIVING EVEN HELP

24:02 - TOO A LOT OF FLACK FOR

24:04 - THAT AND CITY EVEN BRINGING

24:06 - KIDS AND PEOPLE INTO THEIR OWN

24:07 - HOME BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE

24:08 - PLACES TO LIVE.

24:10 - A LOT OF THEIR REVENUE WITH

24:11 - GOING TO HELP FUND BETHEL AME

24:13 - CHURCH WAS OUR FIRST AFRICAN

24:14 - AMERICAN CHURCH HERE IN THE

24:15 - CITY OF BRANSON.

24:16 - AND EVEN THE COMPANY WILL THE

24:18 - MATERIALS TO BUILD BATTLE AND

24:20 - THE CARE THAT IS

24:20 - STANDING HERE TODAY.

24:23 - HIS LEGACY LIVES ON IN WAYS

24:24 - THAT WE DON'T REALLY EVEN KNOW

24:26 - PARTICULARLY IN ARCHITECTURE

24:27 - BECAUSE A LOT OF IF YOU REMOVE

24:29 - THE COMPANY.

24:33 - SO THEY USE THEIR

24:34 - POSITION TO YEAH THAT YEAH.

24:37 - IT WAS VERY INTO POLITICS

24:38 - TO MAKING SURE THAT

24:40 - IF BLACK PEOPLE IN THE CITY ARE

24:41 - ELIGIBLE TO VOTE AND CAN VOTE

24:42 - THAT THEY'RE MAKE THAT THEY ARE

24:43 - GOING TO GO AND THAT

24:44 - THEIR VOTE DOESN'T MATTER.

24:48 - EVEN ABLE TO SWAY. AND

24:52 - 1900.

24:53 - THEY WERE FIGHTING TO MAKE

24:54 - SURE THAT THERE WAS A CATEGORY

24:56 - THAT ILLUSTRATED AFRICAN

24:57 - AMERICANS OVER THE AGE OF 21

24:59 - WHO ARE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN THE

25:00 - 1900 CENSUS ACROSS THE.

25:03 - BUT HE WAS ABLE TO GARNER 200

25:06 - MEN TO BE REPRESENTED

25:07 - IN THIS IN THE CENSUS

25:09 - AND ALL OF THE MEN REPRESENTING

25:10 - THE FENCES CAME OUT OF THE

25:11 - DIFFERENT THINGS. NO OTHER

25:13 - PLACES IN LACKAWANNA COUNTY.

25:16 - NO OTHER PLACE IN LACKAWANNA

25:17 - COUNTY AT THE TIME HAD AS BIG

25:19 - OF A POPULATION

25:19 - HAS STRENGTHENED.

25:23 - ALL OF THAT CAME FROM

25:25 - HIS PUSH A FEW OTHER MEN

25:27 - PUSH TO GET THE MEN IN SCRANTON

25:29 - TO BE SEEN AS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE

25:31 - AND ACTUALLY MATTER AND TERMS

25:33 - OF REPRESENTATION. AND

25:35 - 2019 TODAY, LOOKING BACK AT

25:37 - THE SENSES. ALTHOUGH YOU KNOW

25:39 - THE CITY MIGHT HAVE KNOWN AT

25:40 - THE TIME THAT YOU KNOW

25:42 - YOU'RE AT. BUT IT'S ACTUALLY

25:44 - NOT THERE. IT LOOKS LIKE

25:45 - THEY'RE. THEY'RE REMEMBER

25:46 - ANYONE THERE YOU KNOW SO.

25:48 - THAT COMPANY HAS A

25:50 - HUGE IMPACT. THE LEGACY OF

25:51 - GEORGE AND WE HAVE A HUGE

25:53 - IMPACT ON THE CITY AND WHAT IT

25:55 - MEANS TO BE A BLACK

25:56 - PERSON AND TODAY.

25:57 - AND YOU SAID LOUISE.

25:59 - TURNER BROWN CARRIED CARRY

26:00 - THAT ON AFTER HIS PASSING.

26:03 - YES, SHE DIDN'T EVEN REALLY

26:04 - WANT TO TAKE OVER HIS BUSINESS.

26:07 - SHE.

26:08 - SHE HAD HER OWN INDUSTRY THAT

26:09 - THE TIME IN HER

26:10 - OWN THING GOING ON.

26:12 - BUT HE NEVER SEEN OWNING A

26:14 - TRUCKING SOMETHING THAT HE

26:16 - WANTED TO DO. BUT

26:17 - WHEN HER HUSBAND

26:18 - PASSED AWAY AND HE SAW ALL

26:19 - THE PEOPLE LIKE PUTTING IN BIDS.

26:21 - FOR AND HER HUSBAND COMPANY

26:23 - THAT HE SAW THAT HOW IMPORTANT

26:24 - WAS HOW VALUABLE WAS THAT

26:26 - HE DECIDED TO TAKE IT OVER AND

26:28 - RIGHT IN HER CELL AND

26:29 - THE HAND THIS BEING BIGGER

26:31 - THAN HERSELF AND SHE WAS ABLE

26:33 - TO REALLY TRANSFORM THE COMPANY

26:35 - INTO SOMETHING SO MUCH BETTER.

26:38 - AT THE TIME THEY HAD LIKE 11

26:39 - FORCES HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGE.

26:43 - AND SHE WAS ABLE TO TREAT

26:44 - THOSE IN AND SELL THEM FOR

26:45 - TRUCK BRAND NEW TRUCK AT

26:46 - THE TIME OF THE CIVIL AND THE

26:48 - AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY IS JUST

26:49 - STARTING TO ROLL IN AND THERE'S

26:51 - ONLY ONE PLACE IN THE CITY OF

26:52 - SCRANTON NOW SELLING TRUCK TO

26:54 - THE W BROWN TRUCKING COMPANY

26:55 - DURING THAT TIME WITH US ON TO

26:57 - BE FASCINATING. ALTHOUGH THEY

26:58 - HAD MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TO

26:59 - BUY IT. NO ONE IN

27:01 - THE VARIOUS ON THAT.

27:06 - ECLIPSE TREE IN LACKAWANNA

27:07 - PRETTY MUCH RIGHT NEXT TO ONE

27:08 - OF THEIR WAREHOUSE BUILDING.

27:09 - THEY WERE SELLING THEM.

27:14 - THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO

27:15 - NOTE BECAUSE. IT WASN'T FOR THIS

27:18 - ONE TRUCKING.

27:19 - A COMPANY. THAT'S MANUFACTURING

27:21 - THE FACT THAT BELIEVES IN THE

27:23 - COMPANY. THEY WENT EVEN BEEN

27:24 - ABLE TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS

27:26 - A TEAM I MEAN DOWN THE ROAD

27:27 - AND THIS PLACE THE SOUNDTRACK

27:29 - FOR THE GAME THAT CAN ACTUALLY

27:31 - IMPROVE THEIR BUSINESS.

27:32 - SO THAT WAS THAT SOMETHING

27:33 - THAT THESE BLACK BUSINESSES

27:35 - FACED WAS THAT I'M TRYING TO DO

27:37 - BUSINESS WITH OTHER BUSINESSES.

27:38 - I DO THINK IT WAS HARD

27:39 - DOING BUSINESSES WITH OTHER

27:40 - BUSINESSES. BECAUSE AT

27:43 - THIS TIME. RIGHT AFTER THE

27:45 - CIVIL WAR AND PEOPLE CALL

27:48 - ME AND AND IT'S KIND OF THE

27:50 - READJUSTING OF BLACK

27:52 - PERSPECTIVE OF NOW IN BEING

27:54 - SEEN AS A HUMAN AND THEN

27:55 - ALSO OWNING A BUSINESS

27:56 - IN THE FACE WHERE YOU'RE ONE OF

27:58 - YOU I THINK IT IS REALLY HARD.

28:01 - BECAUSE THIS IS PROBABLY.

28:04 - YOU RARE INSTANCES

28:06 - WHERE THE WHITE

28:07 - COMMUNITY HAVE TO DECIDE IF

28:09 - ONE THEY DON'T WANT TO PATRONIZE

28:10 - YOUR BUSINESS. AND HOW THEY

28:12 - APPROACHED THAT SAME THING TOO

28:14 - AS BEING A PERSON OF COLOR.

28:17 - BEING SOMEONE WHO'S OWNING

28:18 - A BUSINESS AND PAY TONIGHT AND

28:19 - THEN SEEING AT SOMETHING BETTER

28:21 - SOMETHING WORTH. SO I DO THINK

28:22 - THERE ARE CHALLENGES THERE

28:24 - AND MARY WEATHER STORIES REALLY

28:26 - INCREDIBLE IN TERM OF THIS

28:28 - CONVERSATION BECAUSE I FEEL

28:29 - LIKE HE WAS BATTLING THAT A LOT

28:31 - TOO BECAUSE HE DIDN'T COME

28:33 - FROM A PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT

28:35 - TO THEN PARTICIPATING IN THE

28:37 - CIVIL WAR GAINING HIS FREEDOM

28:39 - AND THEN NAVIGATING IN

28:41 - THIS SPACE AS A SUCCESSFUL

28:43 - INDIVIDUAL. AND IN THAT

28:45 - AND ONE IN THE MAKING.

28:47 - THANK YOU IN 1875.

28:51 - A BLACK MAN CAME INTO A

28:52 - BARBER SHOP TO GET A HAIR CUT

28:54 - ACTUALLY TO BE SAVED UP AND

28:56 - HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT YOU.

28:58 - HE TOLD HIM THAT HE ONLY THE

29:00 - WHITE HAIR BASICALLY. AND THE

29:03 - MAN WAS VERY ADAMANT

29:04 - ABOUT HE BEING SEEN

29:06 - BEING CARRIED OUT OF PAYING

29:07 - CUSTOMER. I'M JUST LIKE YOU

29:09 - LIKING YOU DO THIS SO AFTER

29:11 - THE BIG DUFFEL AND HE ENDED UP

29:14 - GIVING HIM THE DAY AND THEY

29:16 - GOT INTO THIS FIGHT RIGHT AFTER

29:18 - THAT AND HE BASICALLY MADE

29:19 - THEM LEAVE THEY WILL KIND OF GOT

29:21 - ARRESTED FOR THE COUPLE THAT

29:23 - THEY GOT INTO BUT I THINK ABOUT

29:25 - THAT OFTEN.

29:26 - AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT

29:28 - WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE TO LIVE

29:29 - ANYTHING 75 IN SCRANTON

29:31 - DURING THAT TIME.

29:33 - BUT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN FOR

29:34 - SURVIVAL LIKE THIS IS HOW YOU

29:36 - ARE FEEDING YOUR FAMILY THAT'S

29:37 - HOW YOU'RE LIVING AND YOU ARE

29:39 - A SUCCESSFUL COME THAT MAN.

29:41 - AND AGAIN THE WHITE COMMUNITY

29:43 - BASICALLY AS A WHITE MAN

29:45 - WITH BLACK IN YOU ARE PROBABLY

29:47 - GOING TO A MOVE

29:48 - MOVE AROUND IN THIS

29:50 - SPECIFIC WAY OR ACT DIFFERENTLY

29:51 - FOR PEOPLE AND IF PEOPLE SEE

29:53 - YOU AS A PERSON WHERE

29:55 - OTHER LOOK LIKE YOU DON'T COME

29:57 - IN HERE BUSINESSES AND HAVE YOU

29:59 - YOU KNOW ENGAGE WITH

30:00 - THAT INFORMATION. BUT I DO

30:04 - HE HE CAME AROUND A FEW YEARS

30:06 - LATER AND BECAME A A HUGE CIVIL

30:09 - RIGHTS ACTIVISTS. IN THE LATE

30:11 - 1800'S.

30:14 - HELPING WITH HELPING TO BUILD

30:16 - THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CHURCH

30:17 - HERE BETHEL AME CHURCH. REALLY

30:19 - INVOLVED IN POLITICS

30:21 - AT THE TIME, I'M. SO I DON'T

30:23 - KNOW IT MAYBE HE SAW THAT

30:24 - WHEN YOU DOING WITH KIND OF.

30:27 - FIGHTING AGAINST THEM COMMUNITY

30:29 - AT THE END OF THE DAY THE ONLY

30:30 - PLACE THAT WILL ACTUALLY ACCEPT

30:31 - YOU AS YOU ARE SPEAKING OF

30:33 - POLITICS TALK

30:34 - ABOUT THE KEYSTONE.

30:35 - REPUBLICAN CLUB OR THE CALLER

30:37 - WAS WITH WAS THE COLORED

30:38 - KEYSTONE THE PUBLIC

30:39 - THEIR NAME CHAIN.

30:40 - A HANDFUL OF TIMES OVER THE

30:42 - LEGACY OF THE ORGANIZATION.

30:44 - BUT AND ONE THAT

30:45 - STOOD OUT THE MOST WITH

30:47 - THE KEYSTONE COLORED REPUBLICAN

30:50 - CLUB OR THE COLOR

30:50 - PIECE ON THE PUBLIC.

30:52 - OR YOU CAN SIMPLY CAUGHT

30:53 - THE STONE REPUBLICAN CLUB.

30:55 - WHICH IS BASICALLY A GROUP OF

30:57 - AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN WHO WERE

30:58 - FIGHTING AND RALLYING AND

31:00 - CAMPAIGNING AROUND THEIR VOTE.

31:03 - ELECTION. IT WAS A NATIONAL

31:05 - ELECTION LOCAL ELECTION.

31:07 - WE'RE REALLY INFLUENTIAL ON

31:09 - THE REPUBLICAN VOTE HERE IN THE

31:11 - CITY OF SCRANTON.

31:12 - SO ANYTIME SOMEONE CAMPAIGNING.

31:14 - THEY WOULD GO TO THE KEYSTONE

31:15 - REPUBLICAN CLUB AND CHAT WITH

31:17 - THE GENTLEMAN THERE AND TRY

31:18 - AND GET THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO

31:19 - SUPPORT THEM BECAUSE THEY KNEW

31:21 - IF THEY WERE UNABLE TO PAY

31:22 - THE BLACK COMMUNITY THAT'S A BIG

31:24 - PORTION OF VOTES THAT

31:25 - YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET

31:27 - AND SO GEORGE W GROUND WITH

31:28 - THE PRESIDENT OF THE KEYSTONE

31:30 - REPUBLICAN CLUB JACKSON HAD

31:33 - SOME SORT OF BOARD MEMBER

31:35 - POSITION FOR SOME TIME.

31:38 - A FEW PROMINENT AFRICAN-AMERICAN

31:41 - BASICALLY ALL OF THE PROMINENT

31:42 - AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN THAT I'VE

31:43 - BEEN DIGGING UP HAD THEIR HAND

31:46 - IN THE EAST ARE

31:46 - REPUBLICAN CLUB FOR A

31:47 - LONG TIME. SO IT MUST HAVE BEEN

31:49 - SEEN AS AN ORGANIZATION THAT

31:51 - FEEDS. ORGANIZATION THAT REALLY

31:53 - WITH INFLUENTIAL IN THE CITY

31:55 - AND SO IF YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO

31:57 - MEANT SOMETHING I THINK WE'RE

31:59 - REALLY INVOLVED.

32:03 - HE'S A REPUBLICAN CLUB I WAS

32:04 - THE MOTIVE, THE MOTIVE. ONE

32:06 - FULL HEART AND GIVING.

32:09 - AFRICAN AMERICAN TO BE

32:10 - REPRESENTED IN THE CENSUS AS

32:11 - BEING ELIGIBLE TO VOTE.

32:13 - NIGHT I LOVE TO BE INCREDIBLY

32:15 - FASCINATING AGAIN BECAUSE THE

32:18 - WEATHER FOR THEIR ACTIVISM THAT

32:20 - CATEGORY WOULD BE LEFT OUT

32:21 - OF THE CENSUS FOR 1900 AND TODAY

32:24 - IN 2019. IT WOULD LOOK LIKE

32:26 - THERE WERE NO BLACK MEN OVER

32:28 - THE AGE OF 21 ELIGIBLE TO VOTE

32:30 - IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY. BUT IT

32:31 - WAS THE ACTIVISM OF JACK

32:33 - MERRYWEATHER AND GEORGE W

32:35 - BROWN AND A HANDFUL OF OTHER

32:37 - MEN WHO ARE MAKING SURE THAT

32:39 - WE'RE BEING SEEN AND THAT WE

32:40 - COUNTED AND THAT WAS SOMETHING.

32:42 - TO BE RECOGNIZED.

32:44 - ANOTHER FAMILY NAME THAT

32:46 - COMES UP THEM SOME OF THOSE

32:47 - PROMINENT MEN WAS THE KEYS

32:49 - FAMILY. YES IN GEORGE HE IS

32:51 - ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT

32:52 - GEORGE HUGHES. SO GEORGE

32:56 - WITH THE SON OF

32:57 - GEORGE HE'S YEAR.

32:59 - DURING THE SENIOR HE WAS A

33:00 - PLAY I THINK FROM MARYLAND.

33:03 - HIM IN THE SUN AND JOINING

33:05 - THE UNION ARMY, EITHER

33:07 - CLEAN SLAVERY OR IS JOINING

33:09 - IN GAME THEIR THEIR FREEDOM.

33:12 - AND THAT'S THE WAY I'M NOT

33:13 - REALLY SURE ON THAT PART OF HIS

33:14 - STORY. ALONG THE WAY OF BECOMING

33:17 - A A RECENT EVERY PERSON.

33:21 - HE WAS BEING TOWED AWAY

33:22 - ALONG THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD.

33:24 - THE FATHER WAS.

33:25 - AND AT ONE POINT WHEN SOMEONE

33:26 - APPROACHED HIM AND ASKED HIM

33:28 - WHAT HIS NAME WAS AS THE

33:29 - STORY GOES. HE HAD EVEN IF CAN

33:31 - YOU CALL THEM THAT HIS NAME IS

33:33 - JOYCE HE WHICH THEN TURNED INTO

33:35 - GEORGIA. SO HE HAS BEEN

33:36 - REALLY INTERESTING STORY.

33:39 - HIS FATHER WHEN HE JOINED

33:40 - THE UNION ARMY, HE WAS WOUNDED

33:42 - AND WHEN HE CAME BACK FROM

33:44 - AND A HALF AWAY FROM SOME OF THE

33:46 - INJURIES AND GORGE HE WAS

33:48 - LIVING IN WAVERLY IN THE FREE

33:51 - BLACK SETTLEMENT THAT I

33:52 - MENTIONED EARLIER. HE WAS THERE

33:53 - FOR SOME TIME AND THEN HE

33:55 - MOVED TO SCRANTON. AND BECAME A

33:57 - COACHMAN FOR IRA CHRIS. THE

34:00 - FAMILY WAS A WEALTHY FAMILY

34:02 - HERE IN THE CITY OF SCRANTON.

34:06 - MAIN AVENUE IN

34:07 - SCRANTON IS THE LEGACY OF

34:08 - THEIR FAMILY. HE'S WITH

34:11 - THE COACHMAN FOR HIM

34:13 - AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE STORIES

34:15 - ABOUT GEORGE. HE IS THAT.

34:18 - ALTHOUGH HE WITH EQUIPMENT

34:19 - FOR THE MAN WHEN I RECRUIT WAS

34:21 - UNABLE TO SMOKE CIGARS ANYMORE.

34:23 - HE WAS A LOVER OF CIGARS,

34:24 - PASSIONATE ABOUT THEM. WHEN HE

34:26 - WAS NO LONGER ABLE TO HELP THE

34:27 - GUARDS PART OF GEORGE III'S HIS

34:30 - JOB WITH SMOKE, THE GARDEN

34:31 - BLOW TO FILL IN FOR STAYS IN

34:34 - EVERYONE KIND OF WITH THE NEWS

34:35 - BY THE STORY AND ONE OF HIS

34:36 - JOB TITLES WITH THE BOSTON OPENS

34:38 - THIS MAN'S FACE.

34:41 - HE WAS ALSO ACTIVE ON AND THEN

34:43 - HE'S A REPUBLICAN CLUB. HE WAS

34:46 - AND A LOT OF THEM. THE BET AN

34:49 - ORGANIZATION BECAUSE HE WAS A

34:51 - CIVIL WAR BUT FROM HERE.

34:54 - YEAH, HE DID. ALSO DID SOME

34:57 - ANYTHING KIND OF ADDS TO

34:59 - THE A HISTORICAL LANDSCAPE

35:00 - OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY HERE.

35:04 - ANOTHER NAME THAT

35:04 - COMES UP IS JOHN MORGAN.

35:06 - ANOTHER GREAT STORY. HOW

35:08 - DID HE HOW DID HE END UP AT

35:10 - SCRANTON JOHN MORGAN HAS A

35:12 - REALLY INTERESTING STORIES SO

35:14 - HE'S FROM NEW YORK. HE FROM

35:16 - ROCHESTER NEW YORK I THINK HE

35:18 - FELL ASLEEP ON. A FREIGHT CAR

35:20 - ON THE TRAIN. I DON'T KNOW IF

35:23 - HE WAS PLAYING.

35:26 - HOMELESS OR WITH THE CASE MIGHT

35:28 - HAVE BEEN THE BELL SLEEVE ON

35:29 - A TRAIN CAR WHEN YOU WOKE UP.

35:31 - HE WAS IN SCRANTON PENNSYLVANIA

35:32 - AND NOT REALLY FOR THE

35:34 - RALLY, HOW HE GOT THERE. AS THE

35:36 - STORY GOES. HE ENDED UP IN

35:38 - FRANCE AND THEN STARTED WORKING

35:40 - AND LIVING IN THE CITY OF HE

35:42 - WAS DELIVERING COAL AROUND THE

35:45 - CITY FOR SOME SOME POINT

35:47 - IN TIME. BUT YEARS LATER HE AN

35:50 - ELECTRIC CAR. I HAVE JUST

35:52 - SCRAPPED THERE WERE ABOUT.

35:57 - UNDOUBTEDLY INCREDIBLE

35:59 - AROUND THE SAME TIME THAT CARS

36:00 - ARE BEING INVENTED IN.

36:02 - HE'S ABLE TO BUILD HIS OWN. A

36:05 - VEHICLE CONTRAPTION OUT THIS

36:07 - OLD MEALS IN I THINK YOU HAD A

36:09 - BUCKET TO CATCH OIL IN IT AND.

36:13 - FROM THE PHOTO THAT IS VERY

36:15 - GREEN NEED THAT KIND OF LEFT OF

36:17 - THE STORY.

36:19 - IT DID LOOK LIKE A HUNK OF

36:20 - GARBAGE PUT IN A COOL WAY.

36:24 - AND FANS IN A STRANGE

36:25 - PLACE AND THE FAMED

36:27 - WAY, BUT YOU'RE

36:28 - ALSO STILL ABLE TO.

36:32 - USE YOUR LIKE CREATIVE

36:33 - INTELLIGENCE AND MAKE

36:34 - A CAR AND ACTUALLY RAN IN A

36:36 - ROW, BUT HE DROVE IT AROUND THE

36:38 - CITY OFTEN TOO.

36:40 - THE STORIES AND

36:42 - THE STORY SAY SO.

36:44 - YOU ARE ABLE TO FIND SOME

36:47 - ARTICLES AND THAT THE TITLE OF

36:50 - THE ARTICLE WAS CITIZEN SCARED

36:52 - BY HOMEMADE AUTO A WOBBLY

36:54 - WHEEL CONTRAPTION DAN'S ITS

36:56 - WAY OVER PACE PAVEMENTS ON

36:59 - PRELIMINARY TRIP WORKS LIKE

37:00 - LOCOMOTIVES. SO HE WAS HE BUILT

37:03 - A CAR AND HE WAS ACTUALLY

37:04 - ABLE TO USE THAT TO MAKE MONEY.

37:06 - YEAH, HE USED TO MAKE

37:09 - AND ANOTHER NEWSPAPER CLIPPING

37:10 - HE WAS ACTUALLY USING IT

37:12 - TO LIGHT.

37:13 - MOVE IT CALL THAT HE WAS

37:14 - DELIVERING AROUND THE PEOPLE

37:15 - AND RESIDENTS.

37:17 - NOT ONLY WAS IT FOR FUN BUT OUT

37:19 - OF PRACTICALITY IT WAS AMUSING

37:20 - PROBABLY FROM SELF AND THE

37:22 - COMMUNITY TO SEE.

37:24 - A LOCOMOTIVE CAR, A POPPING

37:25 - UP AND DOWN THE STREET.

37:28 - THE UNION HOOK AND LADDER

37:30 - COMPANY COMES UP. SOME RESEARCH

37:33 - AS WELL WHAT WHAT WAS THAT.

37:34 - SO THE UNION HOOK AND LADDER

37:37 - WAS THE ONLY AFRICAN

37:39 - AMERICAN. A FIRE COMPANY.

37:43 - FIRE COMPANY IN THE CITY OF

37:44 - BRANSON NOW A TOP RATED BY

37:46 - BLACK MEN. AND IT WAS

37:48 - CALLED THE LATTER. SO THIS IN

37:51 - 1870. AND THERE ARE A LOT A

37:53 - VOLUNTEER COMPANY IN THE CITY

37:55 - AT THIS TIME.

37:56 - WE HAD AN ORGANIZED GRANTING

37:57 - FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE MOST

37:59 - PART AND THE WIDE RANGING

38:01 - AREAS, A LOT OF UNFAIR

38:02 - COMPANIES KIND OF ACT.

38:05 - DURING THE TIME WE DIDN'T

38:07 - HAVE A HOOK AND LADDER AND

38:08 - BASICALLY A HOOK AND LADDER IN

38:09 - THE MAP ARE ADDED THAT HAS MADE

38:11 - THAT TOOK THE LETTER THAT GOES

38:13 - ON TO THAT OF THE BUILDING

38:14 - THAT WAY YOU CAN SAVE PEOPLE SAY

38:16 - BUILDING FROM A FIRE THAT

38:17 - ON THE SECOND AND 3RD FLOOR

38:19 - BUILDING.

38:20 - SO IN THIS LIST.

38:21 - I THINK IT WAS LIKE AROUND 9

38:24 - TO 70 THE 1874 AND THERE HAD

38:26 - BEEN A HOOK AND LADDER COMPANY

38:28 - IN THE CITY FOR ABOUT 5 YEARS.

38:30 - SO IF THEY'RE IN FIRE VERY

38:32 - CALM AND SO THERE'S A FIRE THE

38:33 - SECOND OR 3RD FLOOR OF

38:34 - THE BUILDING IS PROBABLY DONE.

38:36 - SO A GROUP OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN

38:37 - MEN IN THE HILL SECTION IN

38:39 - SCRANTON DECIDED THAT THEY WANT

38:40 - TO GET TOGETHER AND HELP THE

38:42 - CITY. SO 20 AFRICAN-AMERICAN

38:44 - MEN GOT TOGETHER AND

38:45 - BASICALLY RAN THE APPARATUS WAS

38:48 - WAS THE HOOK AND LADDER

38:49 - COMPANY HERE IN THE CITY. THEY

38:51 - DISBANDED AFTER ABOUT 10 YEARS.

38:54 - AND OF

38:56 - THOSE 20 MEN ONE GOT TO BE A

38:57 - PENSION FIREFIGHTER AND THEN

38:59 - CITY OF SCRANTON HIS NAME WAS

39:01 - LINCOLN TILLMAN AND HE BECAME

39:03 - OUR FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN

39:05 - FIREFIGHTER IN THE CITY

39:06 - OF SCRANTON UNION

39:07 - HOPING LETTER THEY WOULD

39:10 - RYAN THIS APPARATUS OFTEN WITH

39:12 - NO HELP NO HELP OF COURSE IS

39:14 - THERE ANYTHING YOU

39:15 - WOULD CALL IT THE BELLS

39:16 - AND HILL SECOND AND 5TH AND

39:17 - CALLED THE HILL SECOND BECAUSE.

39:19 - THERE'S A LOT OF HILLS.

39:22 - THE ORAL HISTORY

39:23 - THAT ARE STILL LIVING.

39:25 - THEY WOULD TALK ABOUT HOW

39:26 - MEN WITH COLD HEAVY APPARATUS OF

39:28 - ALL OF THE HILL AND BY THE

39:29 - TIME THEY GOT TO WHERE THE FIRE.

39:31 - THE FIRE WAS MOST OF THE MEN

39:33 - WERE SO SHOCKED THAT THEY HAD

39:34 - TO FOLLOW. GROUND AND

39:35 - WAIT FOR THEM TO CATCH

39:37 - THEIR BREATH SO WHILE THEY'RE

39:38 - LIKE TRYING TO GET COLLECT

39:39 - THEMSELVES CITY THAT IS IS

39:40 - THAT A RESIDENT THERE JUST LIKE

39:42 - TRY TO PUT OUT THE FIRE AND

39:44 - WEDNESDAY, THE MANATEE BACK

39:45 - THEY JUMP IN THERE LIKE

39:47 - AND BY THE FIRE SO. IT'S JUST

39:49 - INTERESTING THAT THINK THAT

39:50 - YOU HAD TO HAVE ALL THE

39:51 - EQUIPMENT AND RUNNING UP THE

39:53 - HILL YOURSELF AND HOW

39:54 - LONG AND HOLLYWOOD THING.

39:58 - AFRICAN-AMERICAN PENSION

40:00 - FIREFIGHTER HERE IN THE CITY OF

40:01 - SCRANTON AND YET A LONG CAREER.

40:03 - HE STARTED OUT AS A YOUNG

40:05 - TEENAGER I THINK IT WAS 16 WHEN

40:06 - HE THE UNION HOOK AND LADDER

40:08 - VOLUNTEER COMPANY AND AND WE

40:11 - CAN A FIREFIGHTER FOR OVER 50

40:13 - YEARS. WELL RESPECTED

40:14 - IN LOVE IN THE CITY.

40:16 - IN HERE IN LOUISIANA

40:18 - AND SAY HERE THAT

40:19 - YOU CAN HIS NEPHEW FOR TILLMAN

40:21 - HIS FIREFIGHTING UNIFORMS

40:23 - ACTUALLY HEAR THEM.

40:30 - YEAH, I THINK HIS STORY ALSO IN

40:32 - THE UNION HOOK AND LADDER AND

40:33 - ONE OF MY FAVORITES, ALTHOUGH

40:35 - AS THAT OF ALL MY ALL THE

40:36 - STORIES ARE MY FAVORITE, BUT.

40:38 - I JUST THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE

40:40 - KIDS WOULD BE SELLING FIRED

40:41 - KNOW THAT THERE WAS A

40:43 - BLACK FIREFIGHTER HERE IN

40:44 - THE CITY AND TO BE HONEST.

40:46 - I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE'S A

40:47 - BLACK FIREFIGHTER CURRENTLY

40:49 - TODAY AND THIS WAS.

40:50 - AND GRAND TODAY. YEAH.

40:53 - I MEAN SOMEONE CAN PROVE ME

40:54 - WRONG, BUT I DON'T KNOW I DON'T

40:55 - KNOW ANY. RIGHT NOW,

40:57 - BUT IT'S JUST IT'S JUST

40:58 - AMAZING TO KNOW THAT THERE'S

41:00 - SO MANY INSPIRING INDIVIDUALS.

41:03 - WE'RE HERE THE CITY OF BRANSON

41:04 - DURING A TIME WHERE BLACK FOLKS

41:07 - ARE BARELY ENOUGH HUMAN BEING

41:08 - HAD LITTLE TO NO RAIN AT ALL.

41:10 - IF WE DID WE FEEL WE'RE GETTING

41:12 - THAT SECOND CLASS OF THE FAN.

41:14 - AND THE GRAND SCOPE OF THE

41:15 - UNITED STATES AND WHAT WAS

41:16 - GOING ON TO KNOW

41:17 - THAT THEY WERE HERE.

41:19 - TAKING CARE OF IMPAIRED

41:21 - COMMUNITY LIKE BEING A FIRE

41:22 - FIGHT THAT'S A LOT OF WORK

41:23 - AND WANT TO DO IT AS A VOLUNTEER

41:25 - IS JUST SOMETHING THAT

41:26 - IS STILL IN MY RUBBLE.

41:28 - YOU HAVE A GREAT INTEREST

41:29 - IN THAT THE BLACK HISTORY OF

41:30 - SCRANTON SECTOR THESIS

41:32 - WAS A MAJOR SOURCE.

41:34 - OF MY PREPARATION FOR THE

41:37 - WHAT IS THE TITLE OF THE PIECE

41:38 - WHY DID YOU WRITE IT. ON WHAT

41:40 - WE DID.

41:41 - YEAH SO THE TITLE MIGHT BE

41:42 - SAYS IS THAT YOU'RE BLACK THE

41:44 - OVERLOOK COMMUNITY OF SCRANTON

41:46 - PENNSYLVANIA AND I CHOSE THAT

41:47 - TITLE BECAUSE AS A BLACK WOMAN

41:49 - FROM THE CITY OF SCRANTON.

41:53 - IT'S OFTEN SEEN THAT IF YOU'RE

41:54 - BLACK YOU'RE NOT. BUT YOU'RE

41:56 - BLACK AND KIND OF THE SAME

41:57 - LIKE YOU'RE BLACK YOU'RE

41:58 - FROM SCRANTON SO THAT'S

42:00 - KIND OF WAY TAKING THAT TAKE ON

42:01 - AND GROWING UP THERE I ALWAYS

42:03 - FELT LIKE BEING BACK WITH THE

42:04 - STIGMA BEING A BLACK

42:06 - FRIEND TONY IN WITH A

42:07 - STATEMENT HERE AND NOW WE

42:09 - WANTED TO AVOID AT ALL BANNED

42:11 - FROM SUMMER OUTFITS AND

42:12 - FROM PHILADELPHIA, OR YOU OR

42:14 - WHEREVER I WAS FROM AND

42:16 - AS I WENT TO SCHOOL AND I THINK

42:18 - DOING THE WORK.

42:20 - REALLY WANTED TO PROVE IT MIGHT

42:22 - BE FOR THAT YOU CAN BE BLACK IN

42:24 - HANDY FROM SCRANTON AND YOU CAN

42:26 - BE DOING ALL OF THESE AMAZING

42:27 - THINGS THAT WE HAVE INCREDIBLE

42:28 - LEGACY. SO I JUST WANTED

42:30 - WHOEVER IS READING

42:32 - IT, HOWEVER I PREPARED

42:33 - TO TAKE AWAY THAT.

42:35 - THERE AND SOMETHING

42:36 - BEAUTIFUL ABOUT BEING BLACK IN A

42:37 - SPECIALLY SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL

42:38 - ABOUT BEING A BLACK BEAR COMING

42:39 - IN BECAUSE LOOK AT ALL THE

42:40 - THINGS THAT WE'VE

42:41 - BEEN DOING HERE FOR SO.

42:42 - SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW I GOT THE

42:44 - TITLE AND THE OVERLOOKED

42:46 - PART YOU OVERLOOK COMMUNITY OF

42:47 - BRANSON IS BASICALLY BECAUSE YOU

42:50 - WITH THAT I'M COVERED SO MANY

42:51 - FANTASTIC STORY AND I CONTINUE

42:53 - TO FIND MORE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

42:55 - I KNEW OR PIECES OF THE THINGS

42:57 - I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD

42:59 - HAPPEN UPON AND I JUST. I

43:01 - REALLY WANT. EVERYONE TO NOT

43:03 - BELIEVE THAT BLACK RESIDENTS

43:06 - HERE ARE TRANSIENTS BECAUSE

43:08 - WE'RE NOT I WANT TO BE INVOLVED

43:09 - IN THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT

43:11 - TO BE ARTISTS WE WANT TO. DOES.

43:15 - TO THE CULTURAL FABRIC YOU

43:16 - JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE DOES AND I

43:18 - THINK THE MORE THAT

43:19 - THE COMMUNITY THINK

43:20 - THAT THE MORE WE INTERNALIZE

43:21 - AND IT BECOMES LIKE A NEVER

43:23 - ENDING CYCLE OF

43:24 - I'M JUST NOT REALLY

43:25 - PARTICIPATING OR

43:26 - WE HAVE GOING ON

43:26 - HERE AND I THINK THE MORE

43:28 - THAT WE SHARE THAT IS A THING IT

43:30 - WILL ACTUALLY PLAN TO

43:32 - SPEED AND IT WILL CAUSE.

43:35 - BRANDON THE EVEN MORE

43:36 - BEAUTIFULLY DIVERSE PLACE.

43:39 - AND THAT HAS SO MUCH HISTORY

43:40 - OUTSIDE OF THE IN THE REGION.

43:42 - SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED

43:44 - TO SHOW MY THESIS AND THE WORK

43:45 - THAT I'M DOING IT IN GENERAL.

43:47 - LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WORK

43:48 - YOU'RE DOING WHAT IS THE BLACK

43:49 - SCRANTON PROJECT.

43:51 - SO THE BLACK WOMEN PROJECT

43:52 - IS A LOCAL HERITAGE INITIATIVE

43:54 - THAT BASICALLY GREW OUT

43:56 - OF MY GRADUATE, HE SAID SO.

43:59 - ALONG THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGHOUT

44:00 - THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN

44:02 - THE DIGGING THERE.

44:03 - WE ALSO HOST A LOT OF EVENTS

44:04 - WHERE WE SHOWCASE THE WORK OF

44:07 - BLACK ABOUT ARTIST HERE

44:09 - IN THE CITY. ARTIST WORK WITH

44:12 - STUDENTS WHO WORK WITH OTHER

44:14 - INSTITUTIONS AND COLLEGES AND

44:16 - PLACES LIKE THE SAHARA TO

44:17 - MOVE IN AND THE LACKAWANNA

44:19 - HISTORICAL SOCIETY JUST 2.

44:21 - THEY'RE ALL THE HISTORY AND

44:23 - ALSO ADD ANOTHER LAYER OF

44:25 - EDUCATION AND ESPECIALLY

44:26 - A LAIR ART I ADORE THE ART

44:29 - AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY

44:30 - IMPORTANT PART ABOUT LIVING IN

44:32 - PORT PART ABOUT EDUCATION IN

44:33 - IT AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PART

44:35 - ABOUT COMMUNITY. SO ANYWAY

44:36 - THAT I CAN TIE IN ALL OF THAT.

44:39 - AND WHEN WE DO THE BLACK RACE

44:40 - IN THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

44:42 - YOU'RE DEDICATED TO ARCHIVING

44:44 - HISTORY AND SHARING THE HISTORY

44:46 - AND THEN MOVING IN SOME PARTS

44:47 - AND THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN

44:49 - SO WE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR

44:50 - VOLUNTEERS ARE ALWAYS LOOKING

44:52 - FOR STORIES AND PHOTOGRAPHS.

44:54 - WE HAVE AN ARCHIVE FOR

44:55 - BUILDING YOUR OWN COLLECTION. WE

44:57 - REALLY WANT WE REALLY WANT THE

44:59 - BLACK FRIENDS AND PROJECT TO BE

45:00 - ANOTHER PILLAR IN OUR COMMUNITY

45:02 - WHO WANT TO BE KIND OF.

45:05 - ADJACENT TO THE HISTORICAL

45:06 - SOCIETY, SO IF ANYONE IS

45:07 - LOOKING FOR SOMETHING WE

45:08 - WANT TO BE A RESOURCE TO THE

45:10 - COMMUNITY AND WE ALSO WANT

45:11 - TO INSPIRE OTHER GROUPS TOO I'M

45:13 - LOOKING INTO YOUR HISTORY

45:15 - AND THE. REALLY A STATE

45:18 - LIKE REALLY AS TO THE

45:19 - PLACE BECAUSE. YES,

45:22 - A CERTAIN THINGS AND CERTAIN

45:23 - PEOPLE ARE HERE IN HISTORY AND

45:25 - THAT'S STILL SUPER BEAUTIFUL.

45:26 - WE NEED THAT BUT WE CAN'T

45:28 - DISMISS BOTH WHO

45:29 - ARE HERE NOW AND

45:31 - WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THEIR

45:32 - LEGACY. SO EVERY DAY BUILDING I

45:34 - LIKE THE UNITED.

45:36 - LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CIVIL

45:38 - RIGHTS MOVEMENT. WHAT WAS THAT

45:40 - LIKE. IN THIS AREA.

45:43 - SO THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT

45:45 - IN THIS ERA AND IN FRANCE AND

45:47 - IN ONE INTERESTING AND I KIND

45:49 - OF LOOK AT THE CIVIL RIGHTS

45:51 - MOVEMENT DIFFERENT AIR SO WE'RE

45:52 - TALKING ABOUT THE CIVIL RIGHTS

45:53 - MOVEMENT IN THE 1950'S AND

45:55 - 60'S. THE CITY WAS VERY AWARE

45:57 - OF WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE

45:59 - NATIONAL LEVEL, BUT I THINK

46:00 - WE'RE STILL GRAPPLING ABOUT HOW

46:01 - WE.

46:04 - WE'RE STILL GRAPPLING

46:05 - WITH WHAT THAT MEANS ON A

46:06 - LOCAL LEVEL A LOT OF PEOPLE

46:07 - DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS

46:09 - DISCRIMINATION THAT THERE WAS

46:11 - SEGREGATION HAPPENING HERE

46:13 - PEOPLE WEREN'T BEING

46:15 - PAID FAIRLY THAT BOTH

46:17 - DIDN'T HAVE AFTER THE EQUAL

46:18 - OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYMENT OR

46:20 - HOUSING WHEN IN FACT THAT WAS

46:21 - HAPPENING RIGHT UNDER THE NOSES

46:23 - OF PEOPLE EVERYWHERE INCLUDING

46:25 - LOCAL POLITICIANS IN PROMINENT

46:27 - INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE

46:28 - POWER TO CHANGE THINGS.

46:30 - SO IN THE 1950'S IN THE 1950'S

46:32 - THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE

46:34 - WHO WERE REALLY GETTING

46:35 - INVOLVED WITH CITY COUNCIL.

46:38 - AND GETTING INVOLVED

46:40 - WITH MAKING FOR THAT.

46:42 - PEOPLE OF COLOR SPECIFICALLY

46:44 - WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE ACTIVE.

46:46 - THE HOUSING AND

46:47 - THINGS LIKE THAT. SO.

46:50 - WHAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND

46:51 - WAS THERE'S A LOT OF DIALOGUE

46:52 - AROUND THAT AND ALSO ONE OF

46:54 - THE BIGGEST DIALOGUE HOUSING

46:56 - FAIR HOUSING FOR PEOPLE OF

46:58 - COLOR BECAUSE UP UNTIL THEN

47:00 - MOST AFRICAN AMERICANS WERE

47:01 - LIVING IN THE COURTS AND ALLIE

47:03 - THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE

47:04 - SO WE'RE KIND OF CRAFT INTO THE

47:06 - WORST KIND OF HOUSING AVAILABLE

47:08 - IN THE CITY AND FOR NO OTHER

47:09 - REASON THAN OUR IN COLOR.

47:11 - AND A WOMAN NAMED

47:13 - MISS. MRS. CLARENCE

47:15 - BERGEN WITH VERY ACTIVE.

47:17 - HE WAS WE

47:20 - RACE RELATIONS BOARD THAT

47:21 - WAS CLEARLY THE CITY COUNCIL SHE

47:23 - WAS INVOLVED WITH

47:24 - THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT.

47:26 - WHAT THE CITY WAS SAYING WAS

47:27 - BEING LED UP TO AND MAKING SURE

47:29 - THAT THE PROMISES ARE BEING

47:30 - KEPT AND HE HAD HER HAND A LOT

47:32 - IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A LOT OF

47:34 - THE HOUSING COMPLEXES

47:35 - THAT WAS HERE AROUND

47:36 - THE CITY. YOU CAN SEE VERY

47:37 - WORRIED THAT THE HOUSING WHEN

47:39 - RELEASED TO THE BLACK

47:40 - COMMUNITY. YES WE'VE BEEN

47:42 - ABLE TO LIVE THERE BUT SHE

47:43 - WAS TO REALLY PUSHING FOR

47:44 - INVESTMENTS HE WANTED TO MAKE

47:45 - SURE THAT THE HOUSING WOULD BE

47:46 - AN INVESTMENT FOR OUR

47:48 - COMMUNITY. SO THAT WAY

47:50 - IF YOU'RE BUYING A PROPERTY

47:51 - OR IF YOU'RE RENTING TO OWN YOUR

47:52 - ACTUALLY WENT DOWN AND THAT YOU

47:54 - CAN PASS SOMETHING DOWN OR

47:56 - IT JUST WHO BUILT PROPERLY AND

47:58 - ALL THE THINGS THAT GO INTO

47:59 - FAIR AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY HOW

48:01 - THEY DO REALLY INVOLVED IN.

48:03 - MY INVESTIGATION ON THE CIVIL

48:05 - RIGHTS MOVEMENT HERE IN THE

48:06 - CITY IS STILL DEVELOPING BUT

48:08 - WHEN I WAS ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER

48:10 - IT WAS THAT. AND MRS.

48:12 - CLARENCE VERY WITH ALSO A

48:15 - GATHERING BOTH

48:16 - TO GO TO THE MARCH ON

48:17 - WASHINGTON SO HE HAD A GROUP

48:19 - ABOUT 20 PEOPLE THAT WENT DOWN

48:21 - IN THE SEA AND PARTICIPATE SO.

48:23 - MILLER HERE BUT THE STORY

48:25 - THAT I'M STILL KIND OF THE THING

48:26 - TOGETHER.

48:28 - BEFORE WE RUN OUT OF TIME

48:29 - THERE COUPLE MORE PEOPLE THAT I

48:30 - WANTED I GET THE

48:32 - OPPORTUNITY TO TO

48:37 - DOCTOR JAMES FOSTER AND THEN.

48:40 - DOCTOR JAMES E FOSTER

48:42 - I WAS SAYING WITH OUR

48:43 - FIRST AFRICAN POSITION OR

48:45 - DOCTOR NOON, THE CITY. BUT NEWS

48:47 - THAT MOST PROMINENT

48:48 - ONE THAT I CAN FIND.

48:51 - HE WAS PRACTICING HERE

48:52 - IN THE CITY OF SCRANTON.

48:54 - ABOUT

48:55 - 1800 TO ONE OF HIS OFFICES

48:58 - WITH AT 3.10 NORTH WASHINGTON

49:01 - AVENUE. SO FOR FOLKS WHO KNOW

49:02 - SCRANTON THE CRAFT IS ACROSS

49:04 - THE STREET FROM PAPA'S PIZZA.

49:06 - A LOCAL FAVORITE.

49:08 - AND I JUST FOUND ME

49:10 - REALLY AN THING WHEN I CAME

49:11 - ACROSS A NAME BECAUSE HE

49:12 - WAS ALSO ONE OF THE AND THE

49:13 - INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE INVOLVED

49:15 - WITH THE PEOPLE

49:16 - REPUBLICAN CLUB THAT WE

49:17 - AND BEFORE THAT IN

49:18 - THIS LEHIGH CAME ACROSS

49:19 - THE NAME. HE WAS ALSO HEAVILY

49:21 - INVOLVED IN BETHEL IN HER

49:23 - DEATH. AND HE WAS A

49:24 - PHYSICIAN. BUT HIS STORY HAS

49:27 - BEEN GETTING A LITTLE BIT ANGLE

49:28 - AND I'M SO THANKFUL UNRAVEL.

49:31 - PEOPLE HAVE WROTE ABOUT HIM

49:32 - IN THE NEWSPAPERS AND ANY OTHER

49:34 - DOCUMENTS ABOUT HIM. HE DID

49:36 - SOME TIME AT MEDICAL SCHOOL.

49:39 - I DON'T KNOW IF HE

49:40 - FINISHED ARE NOT YET

49:42 - HAVE BEEN ABLE TO

49:42 - GET TO THE RECORD YET

49:43 - TO SEE IF HE STARTED THERE AND

49:45 - THERE BUT THEY TALK

49:46 - ABOUT THAT A LOT OF PAPERS.

49:49 - AND ALSO FROM PHOTO THAT I'VE

49:50 - SEEN OF HIM AND KIND SOME OF

49:52 - THE STORIES ARE WRITTEN ABOUT

49:54 - HIM AND PAPERS. HE WAS WHITE

49:55 - PASSING AND I THINK THAT WAS.

49:58 - AND THE SECOND READING I THINK

50:00 - THAT WAS HOW HE SO PROMINENT

50:02 - AS A PHYSICIAN. IT WAS ALL THE

50:05 - RAIN THAT LIKE THERE WAS

50:06 - NO DEATHS ON THE HANDS.

50:08 - I GUESS PEOPLE ARE DYING FROM

50:09 - ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF EITHER

50:10 - THING. BUT I THINK OF BEING

50:12 - ABLE TO PASS HIS WAY TO BE ABLE

50:14 - TO KIND OF UNLOCK CERTAIN

50:15 - PRIVILEGES SAYING HE WAS ABLE

50:17 - TO MANEUVER OUT IN THE CITY

50:19 - OF BRANSON KIND OF LIKE WE'RE

50:21 - TALKING ABOUT JACK THE

50:22 - MERRYWEATHER ALTHOUGH HE HAD A

50:24 - CROWD DARKER BROWN IN HE WAS

50:26 - STILL SEEN AS THIS SORT OF LIKE

50:28 - WHITE ON THE INSIDE IN THE

50:30 - WORLD. BUT I THINK IT'S STILL

50:32 - LIVE IN. LET THEM HAVE

50:33 - INTEGRITY AND AND SUPPORTING

50:35 - THE BLACK COMMUNITY BECAUSE HE

50:36 - DID YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

50:38 - WE WERE BALANCING A COMMUNITY

50:40 - IN A FOUNDATION AND MAKING

50:41 - SURE THAT OUR VOICES ARE BEING

50:43 - SEEN AND HEARD POLITICALLY.

50:46 - SO.

50:47 - I KNEW SOMEONE KIND OF MORE

50:48 - KNEW IN MY RESEARCH THAT I LIKE

50:50 - VERY INTERESTED IN FINDING

50:52 - OUT MORE ABOUT HIM. I DON'T KNOW

50:54 - THAT MANY. BLACK POSITIONS

50:56 - IN THE AREA IN GENERAL AND TO

50:58 - KNOW THAT A LEGACY ONE HERE

51:00 - YOU KNOW THE FIRE WHOEVER, AND

51:03 - CANNON FIRE.

51:04 - ANOTHER NAME THAT WAS SORT

51:06 - OF A FIRST WAS GEORGE H O US.

51:09 - GEORGIA DOWN TO INTERESTING

51:12 - INDIVIDUAL SO HE WAS

51:14 - OUR FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN

51:16 - MAIL CARRIER.

51:18 - AND.

51:23 - THIS ANY TIME YOU TALK

51:24 - ABOUT IN THE PAPER,

51:25 - YOU DISLIKE A SPICY KIND OF

51:26 - HISTORY TO THE POINT THAT A

51:28 - GUY. BUT HE WAS OUR

51:29 - FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAIL

51:31 - CARRIER THEY DID A

51:37 - UP AND SCORE

51:38 - 400 YEARS. AND IT WAS.

51:41 - 181880. 1890.

51:46 - THEY DID A SURVEY OF ALL THE

51:48 - AFRICAN AMERICAN MAIL CARRIERS

51:50 - IN THE UNITED STATES.

51:51 - AND THERE'S ONLY

51:53 - 394.

51:55 - AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAIL CARRIERS

51:56 - AND THAT ONE COUNTRY AND OF

51:59 - JOY THEY DON'T LOOK AS

52:00 - ONE OF THEM, SO THAT TO

52:02 - ME WAS INCREDIBLY

52:03 - SIGNIFICANT THAT.

52:05 - ONE HE WAS OUR FIRST BUT ALSO

52:07 - HE MADE THE LIST OF JUST A FEW.

52:10 - THE U.S. WILL EVER BE ABLE TO

52:12 - ARCHIVE AND MIKE. SO HE WAS

52:14 - OUR FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN

52:16 - MAIL CARRIER AND HE WAS A VERY

52:19 - AND HE KIND OF LIVED

52:20 - HIS LIFE THE WAY THAT HE

52:22 - I WANTED TO LIVE AND DIDN'T

52:24 - REALLY AND OPINIONS ON HIM AND

52:26 - IF WRITING AN EDITORIAL IN THE

52:29 - NEW PAPER TALK ABOUT. A QUICK

52:32 - YOU AND GET THE MAIL-IN VOTE.

52:34 - SO HE WOULD DELIVER

52:35 - MAIL ISLAND OF THE MILL NOW

52:36 - TO THAT JUST TO POST OFFICE

52:38 - THAT INDIVIDUALS TOO. AND

52:40 - HE WOULD RIVAL FOR SOMEBODY TO

52:41 - GET NOWHERE IN TO BE AND IN ONE

52:44 - INSTANCE IN THE PAPER THEY ARE

52:45 - WRITING ABOUT HOW

52:46 - CRAZY IN FACT HE WAS

52:47 - WRITING HIS DRIVING OF

52:48 - COURSE TO THE CITY AND I ALMOST

52:50 - KNOCKING OVER SOMEONE'S LIFE

52:52 - AND THE SLOWDOWN. PEOPLE GET

52:54 - THEIR MAIL WHEN THEY GET

52:55 - THEIR MAIL. WE THINK ABOUT LIKE

52:57 - AMAZON PRIME HOW FAST THE

52:58 - WATER MAYOR, I CONSIDER HIM A

53:00 - REVOLUTIONARY BECAUSE HE WAS

53:02 - HASTY ABOUT DELIVERING HIS MAIL

53:04 - AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU

53:06 - GOT IT AFTER THE COLD THOUGH A

53:07 - LITTLE DOES HE KNOW ABOUT THE

53:09 - VALUE CHARACTERISTIC OF A MAIL

53:11 - CARRIER TODAY.

53:13 - SO YOU JUST USE AN INTERESTING

53:16 - WHAT I'M ABLE TO READ

53:17 - ABOUT HIM. ME ALSO

53:19 - STIRRED UP A LITTLE BIT OF

53:20 - COMMOTION HERE IN THE CITY TOO

53:21 - BECAUSE HE MARRIED A WHITE

53:23 - WOMAN AND THAT CAN REALLY GO

53:25 - OVER SO SO WELL HERE IN THE

53:27 - CITY. THERE ARE NO LAWS OR

53:29 - RULES ON INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE,

53:31 - BUT IT WASN'T SEEN AS

53:32 - SOMETHING THAT WAS

53:33 - TO ACCEPTABLE THAT NEEDED CARE

53:34 - AND HE WOULD SAY THAT HE LOVES

53:36 - TO BE LOVED IN THIS LIFE AND

53:37 - AND THAT KIND OF HIS RESPONSE

53:39 - TO ANYTHING SO I JUST KIND OF

53:41 - ADMIRE HIM FOR LIVING HIS LIFE.

53:42 - THE BEST AND JUST ONE IT HE

53:44 - ENJOYED BEING A MAIL CARRIER

53:46 - AND HE WAS RESPECTED.

53:48 - AND IN IN THE 18 IN 1880 THE

53:51 - 1890'S. MORE THAN HALF OF

53:53 - AMERICANS IN GENERAL WERE

53:55 - ILLITERATE WHO COULDN'T

53:56 - READ OR WRITE AND

53:58 - DURING THIS TIME I THINK WITH A

54:00 - 65% OF AFRICAN AMERICANS

54:01 - COULDN'T READ OR WRITE EITHER.

54:04 - A PRETTY HIGH STATISTIC

54:05 - AND SO FOR HIM TO BE A MAIL

54:07 - CARRIER, A BLACK MAN CAN

54:08 - RUN AWAY RIGHT AT A HIGH

54:10 - PROFICIENCY AND JUST. A

54:12 - MIRACULOUS THING YOU KNOW AND

54:15 - EVEN DURING THOSE TIMES OF

54:16 - THE MILITARY OR YOU WANT TO

54:17 - DELIVERING MAIL BUT YOU'RE

54:19 - ALSO LIKE TRANSCRIBING MALE FOR

54:21 - PEOPLE SO YOU HAD A LETTER.

54:23 - HE WAS GREETED SOMEONE AND

54:24 - ALSO RIGHT RESPONDED BACK IN AND

54:26 - DELIVER IT TO GO A JOB WITH

54:28 - MORE IMPORTANT THAN I THINK

54:29 - PEOPLE KIND OF THE BECAUSE

54:31 - MIGHT BE CURRENT FLAG MAIL

54:33 - CARRIER OKAY, BUT JOB

54:34 - ACTUALLY CAME UP A LOT.

54:37 - TO BE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO

54:38 - WERE ABLE TO READ AND WRITE

54:39 - ACROSS LIKE RACIAL DEMOGRAPHICS

54:44 - SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY SITTING

54:46 - NEXT TO A SCULPTURE OF A.

54:48 - THE SCRANTON AREA SCULPTOR.

54:52 - WHO DID THAT.

54:53 - WE'RE SO THIS IS THE

54:54 - WORK OF CROWDS AT THEIR

54:56 - PATIENTS. HE'S ORIGINALLY

54:58 - FROM WILL FARE ACTUALLY

55:00 - WEST PITTSTON.

55:01 - AND THAT IN LUZERNE COUNTY

55:06 - THE 19601970'S, HE

55:09 - WAS SCULPTING THESE

55:11 - FANTASTIC BEAUTIFUL SCULPTURES

55:13 - OUT OF ANTHRACITE COAL.

55:16 - HIS DAD WAS ACTUALLY A MINOR

55:18 - AND SELL. HE WAS A GREATER

55:20 - GLORY, BOYS AND COLLECTING

55:21 - ON THE TYPES OF THINGS CALL

55:24 - HIS FATHER WITH AN LITTLE

55:25 - TRINKETS ON THE STREET THAT HE

55:26 - WOULD CAR. THEY'RE PRETTY

55:27 - POPULAR PEOPLE ARE BUYING UP

55:29 - ALL THE TIME AND THAT'S KIND

55:30 - OF HOW HE LEARNED THE CRAFT.

55:32 - THING AND CALL AND

55:34 - HIS WORK IS JUST.

55:36 - I LOVE THIS WORLD THAT'S

55:37 - SO UNIQUE AND TO ME THERE'S

55:39 - SOMETHING SO SO MUCH HEAVIER TO

55:42 - ME ABOUT THIS WORK BEING

55:43 - THAT HE'S A BLACK MAN FROM

55:44 - NORTHEASTERN PENNSYLVANIA.

55:47 - USING THE ANTHRACITE USING THE

55:48 - COOL IN A WAY THAT WE KIND OF

55:50 - NEVER WE'RE SO SEATED WITH HIM

55:53 - AGAIN MAKING ITS ARE IN

55:54 - MAKING HIM FOR THE WHOLE THING.

55:56 - SO HIS WORK HAS LIKE A STRONG

55:58 - MEANING TO THE WORK THAT I DO

56:00 - FOR THE BLACK FRIENDS AND

56:01 - PROJECTS. ALTHOUGH YOU FROM

56:03 - THERE IN COUNTY. WELL I THINK.

56:05 - I VERY MUCH SYMBOLIZES

56:06 - I THINK WHAT IT

56:07 - MEANS TO BE BLACK AND THE

56:09 - NEVER SAY REGION GREATLY.

56:12 - YES SO I DEEPLY ADMIRE HIS

56:15 - WORK, I ADMIRE THE WAY THAT HE

56:17 - WAS ABLE TO

56:18 - A GOAL AND CREATES CERTAIN

56:19 - THINGS AND TELL STORIES IN

56:21 - THIS, BUT ALSO THE

56:23 - PROMINENT THAT HE SOME OF HIS

56:25 - WORK WITHIN THE

56:26 - METROPOLITAN MUSEUM

56:27 - OF ART. AND PRESENTED TO THE

56:31 - PRESIDENT. I JUST THINK IT'S.

56:36 - THE COOLEST THING AND WHEN

56:37 - I CAME TO THE AIRBUS A HERE TO

56:38 - USE THEM AND SAW HIS WORK.

56:40 - I'M NOT GOING AWAY BY

56:41 - THE THE TECHNIQUE OF IT ALL,

56:44 - BUT THEN TO KNOW THAT HE'S AN

56:45 - AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN FROM THE

56:46 - AREA ME WITH THIS A VERY

56:48 - I THINK AN INCIDENT PART

56:50 - OF THE THINGS IN THAT KIND OF A

56:51 - KIND I GET BACK INTO THE

56:54 - SPACE BELONGING TO US TOO I IN

56:57 - TERMS OF

56:58 - THE COLD A REGION IN THE

57:00 - COAL CALLED HER A LOT OF BLACK

57:02 - PEOPLE BLACK AND BROWN

57:03 - PEOPLE FEEL LOCKED OUT OF THE

57:04 - ANTHRACITE REGION

57:05 - AND THAT IF IT'S A HISTORY.

57:07 - BUT HIS WORK IN A WAY FOR US TO

57:08 - DRIVE BACK IN AND

57:09 - BE INCLUDED SO THAT.

57:13 - WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME,

57:14 - WHAT'S ONE THING YOU THINK OUR

57:16 - VIEWERS.

57:18 - I FIND MOST INTERESTING ABOUT

57:20 - THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY

57:22 - IN SCRANTON THAT

57:23 - THEY MAY NOT KNOW.

57:26 - THE MOST INTERESTING THING

57:28 - ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICAN

57:29 - COMMUNITY HERE IS THAT. WE ARE.

57:34 - SO DYNAMIC AND I THINK

57:36 - WE EXCEL IN WAYS THAT.

57:39 - PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS ASSUME THAT

57:41 - WE CAN ACHIEVE KIND OF AN

57:42 - ALL THE EXAMPLE THAT I GAVE YOU

57:44 - BEFORE. WE'RE JUST DOING SO

57:46 - MANY INCREDIBLE THINGS AND ALSO

57:49 - VERY ADAMANT ABOUT WHO WE ARE

57:50 - IN OUR FACE THAT WE'RE KIND OF

57:52 - OCCUPYING. SO I THINK THAT'S

57:54 - ONE THING THAT I CAN SEE IS

57:56 - COMING BACK IN OUR COMMUNITY

57:58 - TOO. I THINK SHARING THE WORK

58:00 - HAS ALSO FROM MY COMMUNITY

58:02 - TOGETHER THE WAY THAT WE

58:03 - HAVEN'T SEEN.

58:05 - BECAUSE BEFORE FOR

58:06 - A WHILE I WAS STANDING.

58:09 - BOTH WITH THE U.S. AS PLANNED

58:10 - AND LIKE WE LIVE HERE, BUT WE

58:12 - ARE GOING TO BE IN YOU KNOW

58:13 - REALLY ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE

58:15 - BUT WE ACTUALLY ARE IF YOU KIND

58:17 - OF OPEN YOUR EYES A LITTLE BIT

58:19 - MORE AND I THINK I I SEE THAT

58:21 - AND I JUST SEE THE BEAUTY IN

58:23 - EVERYONE HERE AND JUST HOW.

58:26 - JUST HOW FANTASTIC AND SMART

58:27 - AND INNOVATIVE THAT WE ACTUALLY

58:29 - ARE AND SEEING IT IN MY OWN

58:31 - COMMUNITY HAS BEEN THE MOST

58:33 - BEAUTIFUL THING.

58:34 - WELL I THINK THAT'S A

58:35 - GOOD PLACE TO END IT.

58:37 - GLYNIS JOHNS FOUNDER OF BLACK

58:38 - SCRANTON PROJECT THANK YOU VERY

58:40 - MUCH FOR JOINING US.

58:40 - THANKS FOR HAVING ME.


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