Sen. John Gordner, On the Issues - Pennsylvania's Neighborhood: Columbia County
00:08 - Senator John
00:09 - gardener of Columbia
00:11 - county as part of
00:12 - your legislative district
00:13 - what sets it apart from other
00:15 - parts of Pennsylvania
00:16 - in your mind.
00:18 - First of all Larry thanks for.
00:19 - Having me Jean.
00:21 - Columbia county one of the
00:22 - sixty seven
00:22 - counties in the state
00:24 - but I've been a state
00:25 - house member and
00:25 - a state senator for
00:26 - almost thirty years now
00:28 - and while was a senator I
00:29 - represent parts
00:30 - of five counties.
00:32 - During that thirty
00:33 - year period I've always
00:34 - rep that represented
00:35 - Columbia county
00:36 - whether as a house member
00:37 - or senator or.
00:39 - Two biggest can
00:41 - unities are bullock and
00:43 - bloomsburg with bloomsburg
00:44 - being the county seat
00:44 - Burke's actually the largest
00:46 - geographical.
00:48 - A community and it's
00:49 - the area that I live in.
00:51 - But we also have the
00:52 - northern tier of beton
00:54 - and millville we have
00:55 - the southern section.
00:57 - Southern Columbia area
00:58 - catalyst area canopus grove area
01:01 - and so a very diverse.
01:03 - We have some very
01:03 - large manufacturers.
01:05 - We have a lot of
01:06 - small businesses
01:07 - we have an amusement park
01:09 - and we're just outside
01:10 - records collect a state park so
01:12 - lots of things to do and
01:13 - see in Columbia county
01:15 - whatever your legislative
01:16 - priorities been
01:17 - since you took office
01:18 - back in nineteen ninety three.
01:21 - A lot of it's been
01:22 - both economic development
01:23 - and community development.
01:26 - Ultimately people.
01:27 - Need to have a job
01:28 - they need to have
01:29 - good wages and healthcare
01:31 - and
01:32 - need to have a job within
01:34 - a close proximity
01:34 - to where they live
01:35 - so that they can
01:36 - better enjoy their life
01:38 - and so economic
01:39 - development certainly important.
01:41 - Community development as well.
01:43 - Whether it's
01:44 - making sure that.
01:45 - There's access to education.
01:47 - Whether it's access
01:48 - to the y m c a's and
01:49 - the different types
01:50 - of activities that they
01:52 - present.
01:53 - Whether it's access to
01:54 - recreational texts
01:55 - types of activities.
01:57 - And parks.
01:59 - Those sorts of things so
02:00 - economic divide equipment
02:02 - and recreational development.
02:03 - Now your majority
02:04 - whip for the senate
02:05 - Republicans just what
02:06 - are the responsibilities
02:08 - of that position.
02:09 - Basically two main
02:10 - responsibilities
02:12 - I assist the majority leader.
02:15 - So our majority leader is Kim
02:16 - ward prior to that
02:17 - it was Jake corman.
02:19 - So working with the majority
02:20 - leader when we're
02:21 - in session then
02:22 - oftentimes they're
02:23 - called off the floor
02:24 - that means I need
02:24 - to run the floor run the
02:26 - calendar
02:27 - those sorts of things
02:28 - and then the second
02:29 - to responsibility
02:31 - for the whip is in
02:32 - regard to the senate
02:33 - republican caucus.
02:34 - If there are issues or
02:37 - votes that are coming
02:39 - up whether it's on a
02:39 - bill or an amendment
02:40 - and leadership needs to know
02:41 - where where the
02:42 - caucus is on an issue.
02:44 - I'm the one that literally
02:45 - goes to each member and say
02:47 - hey we're going to vote on
02:48 - house bill one
02:49 - hundred are you for
02:50 - or you're against it do you
02:51 - have any concerns with it.
02:53 - Is this something
02:53 - you do fairly frequently
02:55 - taking this poll it is.
02:57 - Well it is and it isn't
02:59 - depends
03:00 - like June
03:01 - there'll be a number of
03:02 - issues you know June gets to
03:03 - be more busy and
03:04 - active with the budget and
03:06 - and just the legislation
03:08 - in general so.
03:09 - It it deals with the
03:10 - topic and and the timing.
03:12 - But I've enjoyed the
03:13 - trust of our membership
03:15 - and I've been very
03:16 - accurate in regard to
03:17 - my account.
03:18 - Now you're a member
03:19 - of several committees
03:20 - and one of them
03:21 - is the judicial Jerry
03:22 - committee so what have
03:23 - you been working on lately.
03:25 - Judiciary committee
03:26 - when you look at bills
03:28 - and policies frankly
03:29 - is one of the most.
03:31 - Busiest
03:32 - of committees out there.
03:33 - Senator Greenleaf
03:35 - was chair of that committee for
03:37 - thirty plus years.
03:39 - Certainly
03:39 - Lisa baker has taken
03:40 - it over and she's done
03:42 - a great job.
03:43 - A lot of
03:45 - criminal justice reform issues
03:47 - and that's one of
03:48 - those issues where the
03:49 - pendulum has swung
03:50 - back and forth in regard
03:51 - to that but we've.
03:52 - Accomplished a lot in regard
03:54 - to a criminal justice reform
03:56 - what do you mean by
03:56 - saying the pendulum has
03:58 - swung back and forth
03:59 - between what and what.
04:00 - I can remember when
04:01 - governor Tom Ridge
04:02 - was
04:03 - elected in nineteen
04:05 - ninety four he came in in
04:07 - nineteen ninety five
04:08 - and he called a special
04:08 - session on crime.
04:10 - We ended up in
04:11 - acting and forty some
04:12 - bills during that special
04:14 - session on crime.
04:15 - Many of them increasing
04:17 - mandatory sentencing
04:19 - making things a
04:19 - lot more challenging
04:21 - and then over time
04:22 - we found out that
04:24 - just filling up our.
04:25 - Jails.
04:26 - Wasn't the most
04:27 - productive thing so
04:28 - we needed to make
04:29 - sure that people were
04:30 - rehabilitated
04:32 - and that if they truly were.
04:35 - In.
04:36 - A way to be an active member of
04:38 - society that they
04:39 - are put out there.
04:40 - With the tools that
04:41 - they need to be that
04:42 - so that they don't go
04:43 - back into the jail system.
04:45 - Now I understand
04:45 - this senate passed the
04:46 - bill and I would assume
04:47 - that it went through
04:48 - the judiciary committee
04:50 - because it has to
04:51 - do with adding county
04:52 - judicial seats can you
04:53 - tell US what that's about.
04:55 - Well that is passed the senate.
04:57 - Does not pass the house yet.
04:59 - So we are working with the the
05:01 - chairman of the house
05:02 - judiciary committee.
05:03 - Specifically going back
05:04 - to Columbia county.
05:06 - Co cumbia montour
05:07 - county is a two county
05:09 - judicial district with
05:10 - only two judges.
05:12 - There has not been
05:14 - a judge added there
05:15 - in twenty five years
05:16 - or so why does it only
05:18 - have two judges
05:19 - so why is it overdo
05:20 - it is overdue.
05:21 - Just because there
05:23 - hasn't been that
05:24 - request put in so
05:25 - in order to add a
05:26 - judge and and this is
05:27 - true for at least three
05:29 - counties that are in
05:30 - that bill and I'm the
05:31 - prime sponsor of the bill.
05:32 - You need the county
05:34 - commissioners to
05:34 - write a letter and.
05:36 - Unanimously say
05:37 - that they support it.
05:39 - You need a letter
05:40 - from the president judge
05:41 - of the judicial
05:42 - district saying that the
05:43 - the judgeship is needed.
05:45 - And then through
05:46 - the the eo PC which
05:47 - is under the Pennsylvania
05:49 - supreme court
05:50 - you need to
05:51 - have them say that yes based
05:53 - upon the amount of caseload
05:55 - and things that are going on in
05:57 - that judicial
05:57 - district is warranted.
05:59 - Because that's how you justify
06:00 - adding more judges is by saying
06:02 - simply that the
06:03 - caseload demands it
06:04 - the caseload demands it
06:06 - and that justice will be served
06:08 - and the community will be served
06:10 - by adding a judge
06:11 - so the cases are
06:12 - heard
06:13 - in a responsible reliable time.
06:15 - Now you're also
06:16 - on the transportation
06:17 - committee so what
06:18 - does the future look like
06:19 - and that can
06:20 - net respect.
06:22 - Again
06:23 - senator langer halt so does
06:25 - a great job in regard to that.
06:27 - And we've been
06:28 - dealing with a number
06:29 - of issues some
06:30 - of it has to do with.
06:32 - Self-driving vehicles.
06:34 - You go out to the
06:35 - Pittsburgh area and
06:36 - carnegie mellon
06:37 - and a number of folks.
06:39 - Out there are
06:39 - one of the leaders.
06:41 - In the country.
06:42 - On on that issue.
06:44 - The infrastructure
06:45 - bill that was passed in.
06:48 - The US congress a year ago.
06:50 - Has providing a lot of
06:51 - money for electric car.
06:54 - Charging stations
06:55 - and.
06:57 - Millions of dollars
06:58 - hundreds of millions
06:59 - of dollars is going
07:00 - to be coming to
07:00 - Pennsylvania.
07:02 - To start to put
07:03 - those in all different
07:04 - corners of the state
07:05 - as that infrastructure
07:06 - already begun
07:07 - here in Pennsylvania
07:08 - are we adding these
07:08 - charging stations
07:09 - with his federal money
07:11 - I believe the money is just
07:12 - now coming our way so I think
07:14 - they are in the planning stages
07:16 - in order to do that.
07:18 - Obviously the tolling issue.
07:20 - The the the governor had.
07:22 - Through or a sort of innocuous
07:24 - board proposed
07:25 - at a tolling scheme.
07:27 - Lots of concerns
07:28 - in regard to that
07:30 - there's lawsuits in regard
07:31 - to it and ultimately as.
07:33 - Senator what does the
07:34 - governor wolf want to do
07:35 - he wanted to
07:37 - tall a number of Bridges.
07:39 - Around the state
07:40 - and those things
07:42 - normally happen and sure
07:44 - could frankly happen
07:45 - through the legislature.
07:45 - Under the constitution the
07:47 - legislature has the taxing
07:49 - authority
07:51 - and tolling is is
07:52 - along the lines of attacks.
07:54 - So.
07:55 - Ultimately we ended up.
07:58 - Agreeing as part of this budget.
08:00 - That
08:00 - the tolling
08:01 - scheme.
08:02 - Be put to bed.
08:04 - I'd like to talk about
08:05 - some of the projects
08:06 - that you've helped
08:07 - secure funding for
08:08 - especially in Columbia county
08:10 - and we all know
08:11 - that extreme weather
08:12 - and floods are in
08:13 - the news a lot lately
08:14 - so it occurs to me that you've
08:16 - worked on flood
08:16 - protection projects.
08:18 - In the bloomsburg
08:19 - area haven't yet.
08:20 - Yeah so bloomsburg
08:21 - is probably the largest
08:22 - community along the
08:23 - susquehanna river that
08:25 - does not have a complete
08:26 - flood protection system.
08:28 - Ultimately that is what we want.
08:31 - But we weren't
08:31 - able to get it we work
08:33 - with the army corps
08:34 - of engineers for
08:35 - over a dozen years
08:36 - they ultimately.
08:38 - Ended up not
08:38 - approving a project so
08:40 - we're doing it
08:41 - piecemeal we did it.
08:42 - A one four cannier.
08:45 - Secondly we did
08:46 - it for auditorium
08:48 - and we just a third
08:49 - floodwall extension
08:50 - to cover.
08:52 - The school district system.
08:53 - In bloomsburg
08:55 - and now we have just
08:56 - recently completed a study
08:58 - for a fourth extension
08:59 - of that floodwall
09:00 - but very important for
09:01 - the people bloomsburg
09:03 - and tele arbor viewers
09:04 - what auto Niamh is that
09:06 - I happen to know
09:07 - that is a big employer
09:08 - there isn't it what do
09:09 - they do here so Odin m
09:10 - is the biggest
09:11 - employer in bloomsburg
09:12 - it was known as
09:13 - McGee carpet company
09:15 - it's been in existence for
09:16 - over one hundred years.
09:18 - But you don't get into
09:20 - pretty well any
09:21 - vehicle and step
09:22 - on the carpeting.
09:24 - Without
09:25 - some of it passing through
09:27 - omnia
09:28 - it is a
09:29 - one of the nation's
09:30 - largest manufacturer
09:31 - of car and truck
09:32 - type of carpeting.
09:34 - Now what else is going
09:35 - on in bloomsburg as far as
09:36 - securing funding for for
09:38 - example a senior
09:39 - housing projects
09:40 - I understand that's
09:41 - been on the calendar.
09:42 - Yeah we had something
09:43 - known as balloons berg.
09:45 - Textile mills
09:46 - and bloomsburg
09:47 - mills was around for a
09:48 - long time but much
09:49 - like all textile type of
09:51 - companies they ended
09:52 - up going by the wayside.
09:54 - So we had blighted.
09:55 - Property there
09:56 - and the local
09:57 - redevelopment authority
09:59 - and housing authority
10:00 - community strategies
10:01 - group worked together
10:03 - and they are now be.
10:05 - I think it's the
10:06 - third or fourth.
10:08 - Affordable senior
10:09 - housing project
10:10 - and it is great because it's
10:12 - located in the
10:13 - town of bloomsburg
10:14 - it's close to the
10:15 - bloomsburg fair
10:16 - it's close to a grocery
10:17 - stores and banks
10:19 - and it
10:19 - truly is providing
10:20 - affordable senior
10:21 - housing which is much in demand.
10:23 - Now the town of berwick
10:25 - is it Columbia county
10:26 - as well and I understand they're
10:28 - facing a hospital closure there
10:30 - tell US what's happening
10:31 - yeah that's a very.
10:32 - Challenging or hospital
10:34 - has been around for.
10:36 - Close to one hundred years
10:37 - it's been a community hospital.
10:40 - We have a nuclear power plant
10:41 - just outside of the community.
10:43 - So it's important
10:44 - for that sort of a
10:45 - emergency protection.
10:47 - It was locally run.
10:49 - Around two thousand
10:50 - was transferred to
10:51 - community health systems.
10:53 - About a year and a
10:54 - half ago a private entity
10:56 - out of the Michigan area.
10:58 - Bought it.
10:59 - But now they're in the
11:00 - process of closing it so.
11:02 - We have a large
11:03 - group thirty to forty
11:04 - folks of community
11:05 - mine minded folks
11:06 - union folks.
11:08 - That.
11:08 - Hospital folks.
11:10 - And trying to figure out what
11:12 - we can do if possible to save it
11:15 - and if we can't save.
11:16 - It.
11:18 - How can we encourage
11:19 - other providers
11:20 - whether it's guy
11:21 - singer or other groups
11:22 - to come into the
11:23 - community to meet some of
11:24 - the needs to make
11:25 - sure that healthcare is
11:26 - served.
11:27 - Oh let's talk about some.
11:29 - Recent bills out there and
11:31 - there's one what
11:31 - that would certainly interest
11:33 - our viewers and
11:33 - it has to do with.
11:34 - Property tax relief
11:36 - on a one time basis
11:37 - for seniors what's involved.
11:39 - So.
11:40 - Pennsylvania like
11:41 - every other state got
11:43 - a lot of American
11:43 - rescue plan money and
11:45 - several billion dollars
11:46 - as part of this past budget.
11:48 - We had
11:49 - about two point two billion
11:50 - dollars that we
11:51 - had to figure out.
11:52 - How to spend wisely
11:54 - and certainly with inflation
11:57 - and other higher costs.
11:59 - Hit those individuals on a
12:00 - fixed income of the hardest
12:03 - and really are seniors
12:04 - that are living off
12:05 - of social security we
12:06 - are a small pension.
12:07 - Or on that fixed income and
12:08 - we figured they needed to help.
12:10 - We have a
12:11 - tremendously successful
12:12 - property tax and
12:13 - rent rebate program.
12:15 - Here in the state funded
12:16 - largely through the lottery
12:18 - and we figured it was a
12:19 - great way in order to funnel
12:21 - several hundred million
12:23 - dollars worth of tax relief.
12:25 - So
12:26 - anyone that normally
12:27 - applies for property tax relief
12:29 - should be getting about
12:31 - a seventy per cent bonus
12:32 - meaning there'll be getting
12:33 - what they normally get.
12:35 - Plus they'll be getting an
12:36 - additional seventy
12:37 - percent this year
12:38 - and if they've never
12:39 - applied we certainly
12:40 - encourage folks to
12:41 - contact your local state
12:42 - representative office.
12:44 - Local state center's
12:45 - office and make sure sure
12:46 - that you take advantage
12:47 - of this great program.
12:49 - Now during the
12:49 - pandemic certainly child
12:51 - care expenses have
12:52 - been a concern a major
12:53 - concern for pennsylvanians
12:55 - and I understand
12:56 - in a related piece of
12:57 - legislation that went
12:58 - along with the property
12:59 - tax relief plan
13:01 - there was something
13:01 - about a child tax credit
13:03 - for child care expenses that
13:05 - you claimed on your f federal
13:07 - tax return what's
13:07 - going on there.
13:09 - Yeah so this will really kick in
13:10 - when you do your
13:11 - taxes next year.
13:13 - But it is very important to.
13:15 - Where we need to
13:16 - make sure that we
13:17 - have enough workers
13:18 - in the workplace and we
13:19 - understand that the you know
13:21 - some of the problems is that
13:23 - during the pandemic
13:24 - a childcare places
13:25 - closed and didn't
13:26 - nest surly reopened.
13:28 - Because they didn't have the
13:29 - workers to come in and do that.
13:31 - So for those that are doing it
13:33 - and have the extra expense.
13:35 - We know that a tax credit will
13:37 - be important and will help to.
13:39 - Help them how parents to get
13:41 - into the workforce
13:42 - and provide for.
13:44 - Good call
13:45 - childcare for their kids.
13:46 - Last question senator
13:47 - we only have about
13:48 - thirty seconds left
13:49 - what do you hope to be
13:50 - working on in the coming months.
13:52 - We'll see what the next.
13:54 - Couple of weeks provide
13:56 - and we'll respond to it but
13:58 - certainly want to make sure
13:59 - that we're doing
14:00 - things in order to
14:01 - help the economy.
14:02 - Help workers and
14:04 - help to keep costs low
14:06 - here in our commonwealth.
14:07 - Sen John gardner
14:09 - Columbia county's one of the
14:11 - districts.
14:12 - One of the
14:12 - areas in your district
14:13 - you represent thanks
14:14 - very much for your
14:15 - time thanks Larry.
14:37 - I.