00:29 - >>HELLO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

00:30 - AND WELCOME TO BATTLEFIELD

00:31 - PENNSYLVANIA.

00:33 - TODAY WE'RE ON LOCATION AT THE

00:34 - FLIGHT. 93 MEMORIAL IN SOMERSET

00:36 - COUNTY. ON 9/11/2001, THE WORLD

00:40 - CHANGED FOREVER. AND BECAUSE OF

00:42 - THE ACTIONS OF THE BRAVE

00:42 - PASSENGERS OF UNITED FLIGHT 93.

00:45 - PENNSYLVANIA WILL BE FOREVER

00:47 - TIED TO THAT FATEFUL DAY.

00:48 - I'M YOUR HOST BREAK, RIGHT,

00:50 - SIR. JOINING ME TODAY TO

00:52 - DISCUSS FLIGHT 93 IN ITS

00:53 - MEMORIAL, ITS AUTHOR, TOM

00:55 - MCMILLEN. AND KEITH NULAND OF

00:57 - THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.

00:59 - GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU BOTH FOR

00:59 - BEING HERE AND BEING EVERY.

01:02 - LET'S TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT

01:02 - YOUR BACKGROUND.

01:04 - >>MY DAY JOB AS VICE PRESIDENT

01:06 - OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE

01:06 - PITTSBURGH PENGUINS WHO JUST

01:08 - WON THE STANLEY CUP, OF I MY

01:11 - PASSION IS HISTORY. AND I

01:13 - VOLUNTEER OUT HERE AT THE

01:14 - FLIGHT 93 NATIONAL MEMORIAL

01:15 - AND I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE

01:16 - FRIENDS OF FLIGHT. 93.

01:18 - >>AND YOUR BOOK YES, I I WROTE

01:21 - FLIGHT 93.

01:24 - >>THE DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT OF

01:25 - THE 5 PARKS HERE IN WESTERN

01:27 - PENNSYLVANIA. WE HAVE FOR THE

01:30 - THAT WE HOPE TO MANAGE

01:31 - ALLEGHENY PORTAGE. JOHNSTOWN,

01:32 - FLOOD FOR TESTING FRIENDSHIP.

01:34 - BILL BEEN WITH THE SERVICE SAID

01:36 - 37 YEARS AND AND I'VE BEEN HERE

01:39 - AT SINCE NOVEMBER OF 2002.

01:42 - >>UNLIKE MOST HISTORIC SITES,

01:43 - MOST OF US CAN REMEMBER THIS

01:45 - EVENT. WHERE WERE YOU ON 9.11?

01:48 - >>A 9.11. I WAS AT A STAFF

01:49 - MEETING IN CRESTON AND

01:53 - MY WIFE CALLED AND IT WAS

01:54 - BEAUTIFUL DAY BECAUSE I

01:55 - REMEMBER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT

01:56 - GOING OUTSIDE AND SHE CALLED

01:58 - ONCE AND SAID, HEY, WHAT

01:59 - HAPPENED TO THE PLANE? JUST HIT

02:01 - THE TRADE CENTER. AND I SAID,

02:02 - WELL, I'M SORRY TO HEAR THAT

02:03 - WAS PROBABLY AN ACCIDENT.

02:05 - SHE CALLED LATER AND SAID IT'S

02:06 - NO ACCIDENT. YOU NEED TO GET

02:08 - OUTSIDE AND ABOUT THAT TIME

02:09 - THE PHONE STARTED RINGING OFF

02:10 - THE HOOK FOR ME BECAUSE THEY

02:11 - WERE TALKING ABOUT CLOSING

02:12 - NATIONAL PARKS AND THERE ARE NO

02:14 - SERVICE. SO I WAS TRYING TO

02:15 - COORDINATE WITH WITH OTHER

02:17 - NATIONAL PARK SERVICE SITE.

02:20 - >>I WAS GOING TO WORK IN

02:20 - DOWNTOWN PITTSBURGH AND IT MUST

02:22 - HAVE BEEN JUST BEFORE 9 THAT I

02:24 - GOT TO THE OFFICE BECAUSE THE

02:25 - FIRST PLANE HIT 8.46, I WALKED

02:27 - IN AND THE RECEPTIONIST AND

02:28 - EVEN SAY A WORD. SHE IS

02:29 - POIGNANT TO THE CONFERENCE OR

02:31 - WHETHER WAS A TELEVISION AND

02:32 - WENT IN THERE. AND I SAW.

02:34 - >>SEEING THE AFTERMATH OF THE

02:35 - FIRST LIGHT, WE WATCHED A

02:36 - SECOND FLIGHT HIT THE TOWER,

02:38 - WHICH I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOUR

02:40 - YOUR MIND PLAYS TRICKS ON YOU

02:42 - KNOW, LOOKING BACK TO, YOU

02:43 - KNOW, THE STORY. I THINK THAT A

02:45 - LOT OF US THOUGHT THAT WAS A

02:46 - REPLAY OF THE FIRST FLIGHT.

02:47 - WE DIDN'T IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZE

02:49 - IT WAS A IT WAS JUST AS A

02:51 - SECOND PLANE CRASH INTO A

02:52 - SECOND BUILDING, WHICH I THINK

02:53 - AT THAT POINT EVERYBODY STARTED

02:54 - TO REALIZE THAT THAT SOMETHING

02:56 - WAS UP BY. I ALSO DISTINCTLY

02:57 - REMEMBER LOOKING OUT AFTER THE

03:00 - 3RD PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON AND

03:03 - IT WAS ALMOST AS THOUGH

03:04 - DOWNTOWN PITTSBURGH EVACUATED

03:06 - LIKE THE ENTIRE CITY WAS GOING

03:07 - HOME. I REMEMBER JUST THIS MASS

03:09 - OF PEOPLE GOING UP TO THE

03:10 - PARKING LOT AND THE OLD MILL

03:11 - ARENA THAT WILL THAT WILL

03:13 - ALWAYS STICK WITH ME. YOU KNOW,

03:14 - WE WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED NOW

03:16 - FOR THE CLARITY OF OF OF

03:19 - HINDSIGHT. BUT BACK THEN

03:20 - EVERYBODY WAS BEWILDERED AND

03:21 - PEOPLE JUST WANT TO GET HOME.

03:23 - >>CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY

03:24 - OF THIS LOCATION WHERE WE ARE

03:26 - BEFORE 9.11?

03:27 - >>WELL, THIS THE AREA WAS

03:30 - ORIGINALLY A FARMING AREA AND

03:31 - THEN IT MOVED INTO A VERY LARGE

03:34 - STRIP MINED AREA. THERE ARE

03:35 - SEVERAL COAL COMPANIES IN THIS

03:36 - AREA. YOU'RE SITTING ON

03:37 - RECLAIMED STRIP MINE THE AREA

03:40 - THAT BIG FAN OF THE IMPACT SITE

03:42 - WAS ACTUALLY HEADWATERS ARE A

03:43 - LARGE HAD. WHAT WERE THEY STOP?

03:45 - COAL MINING. AND THAT'S PART OF

03:46 - WHAT THE PLANE HIT. WHEN I WENT

03:47 - INTO THE GROUND, WE HAVE ABOUT

03:51 - >>13, WE HAVE 1400 ACRES IN

03:53 - OWNERSHIP HERE. 7 TO STRIP AND

03:57 - YOU SEE POSE IN THE ORIGINAL

03:59 - CONTOURS THAT WERE LAID HERE,

04:01 - THE COAL MINERS WERE REQUIRED

04:02 - TO TAKE IT TO GO AND PUT THE

04:05 - THE TOUGH PART OF THE BACK TO

04:06 - WHAT IT WAS AS CLOSE AS

04:08 - POSSIBLE. SO WHAT YOU SEE IS

04:09 - WHAT THEY RECLAIMED AT THE

04:11 - TIME.

04:13 - >>THIS IS A STORY EVEN THOUGH

04:15 - IT HAPPENS IN NEW YORK AND HERE

04:17 - IN SHANKSVILLE, OTHER PLACES,

04:19 - THE STORY THAT BEGINS FAR AWAY

04:21 - IN AFGHANISTAN SOAK WE TALK

04:23 - ABOUT THESE HIJACKERS WERE

04:25 - MAYBE IN AND SOME OF THE

04:26 - MOTIVATIONS.

04:28 - >>WELL, I THINK TO IT.

04:30 - WE DON'T REALLY REALLY KNOW

04:31 - WHERE THE BEGINNING IS THAT

04:33 - THE THE CONCEPT OF FLYING

04:34 - PLANES INTO BUILDINGS WAS FIRST

04:36 - PROPOSED TO OSAMA BIN LADEN

04:38 - IN 1996 BY KHALID SHAYKH

04:41 - MUHAMMAD, WHO IS STILL IN

04:42 - GUANTANAMO BAY. IT WAS HIS IDEA

04:44 - WAS MUCH MORE GRANDIOSE PLAN AT

04:45 - THAT POINT. BIN LADEN DID NOT

04:48 - ACCEPT IT. HE THOUGHT IT WAS

04:49 - PROBABLY TOO GRANDIOSE, BUT HE

04:51 - DIDN'T SAY NO. IT REALLY.

04:53 - AND ABOUT 3 YEARS AFTER THE

04:56 - EMBASSY BOMBINGS IN AFRICA,

04:59 - HE SOMEONE KHALID SHAIKH

05:00 - MOHAMMED AND GAVE HIS APPROVAL

05:02 - FOR THE FOR THIS PLAN. SO IT

05:03 - TOOK EVEN THAT STAGE IT TOOK

05:06 - 2 MORE YEARS OF A PRECISE

05:08 - PLANNING TAKE TO GET TO THE

05:11 - ATTACK.

05:12 - >>WHAT WAS BIN LADEN'S GOAL?

05:14 - ME? WHAT WAS HIS WITH THE HOPE

05:16 - TO ACCOMPLISH WITH AN EVENT

05:17 - LIKE THIS?

05:18 - >>THEY WERE THEY WERE THEY WERE

05:20 - ATTACKING THE PILLARS OF.

05:22 - AMERICA. THEY WERE ATTACKING

05:23 - THE ECONOMY. THE WORLD TRADE

05:24 - CENTER. WE WERE ATTACKING THE

05:26 - MILITARY, THE PENTAGON. THEY

05:27 - WERE ATTACKING THE CAPITAL.

05:29 - THEY WERE ATTACKING THE

05:29 - GOVERNMENT. THEY WERE THEY WERE

05:30 - HERE TO CAUSE CHAOS AND TERROR.

05:33 - THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE.

05:34 - >>AND WE KNOW THEY ALSO WERE

05:36 - DEBATING TARGETS FROM 2 OF THE

05:40 - PLOTTERS WHO ARE NOW IN

05:41 - GUANTANAMO BAY, BIN LADEN, VERY

05:43 - MUCH ONE OF THE WHITE HOUSE.

05:45 - HE WAS ARGUING FOR THE WHITE

05:46 - HOUSE TO BE HIT. WE STILL DON'T

05:48 - KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS PLANE

05:50 - FLIGHT 93 WAS GOING TO DO IS

05:51 - HEADED TO WASHINGTON, D.C.,

05:53 - THE DOW TO REAGAN NATIONAL

05:54 - AIRPORT AND TO INTO THE

05:56 - AUTOMATIC PILOT THE

05:58 - CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE SO

05:59 - STRONGLY IS THAT IT WAS THE

06:01 - CAPITAL ONE. THAT WAS THE FIRST

06:02 - DAY OF A JOINT SESSION OF

06:03 - CONGRESS. THESE GUYS HAD DONE

06:05 - THERE. THEY'RE THEY'RE

06:07 - PLANNING. WELL, AND ALSO, IF

06:09 - YOU THINK OF NOT AMERICAN, THE

06:12 - WHITE HOUSE WOULD BE DIFFICULT

06:13 - TO PICK OUT FROM THE SKY.

06:14 - THERE ARE A LOT OF WHITE

06:15 - BUILDINGS IN DC THE CAPITAL IS

06:17 - VERY DISTINCTIVE AS IS THE

06:18 - TRADE CENTER, AS IS THE

06:20 - PENTAGON. SO I THINK A LOT OF

06:21 - THE EVIDENCE POINTS TO THAT.

06:22 - THAT WAS THE CAPITAL. BUT BEEN

06:24 - A LOT OF WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE

06:25 - AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER ARE

06:26 - DISCUSSED AS WELL. BUT AGAIN IS

06:28 - KEY, SAID THEY WANTED A

06:30 - MILITARY ECONOMY, GOVERNMENT.

06:33 - >>WE HAD DOZENS OF PEOPLE ON

06:34 - UNITED FLIGHT 93 THAT DAY, NOT

06:36 - KNOWING WHAT THEY WERE GOING

06:38 - INTO, BUT THEIR BACKSTORIES ARE

06:40 - ARE VERY COMPELLING AS WELL.

06:41 - COULD WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE

06:43 - PEOPLE ON BOARD FLIGHT 93, I

06:45 - THINK IF YOU LOOK

06:46 - AT THE IF THE MANIFEST IN

06:48 - GENERAL WOULD BE LIKE A

06:49 - MANIFEST OF THE FLIGHT. IF YOU

06:50 - WANT TO PITTSBURGH OR

06:51 - PHILADELPHIA AIRPORT TODAY, YOU

06:53 - KNOW, THEY WERE.

06:54 - >>BUSINESSMAN AND GRANDPARENTS

06:55 - AND COLLEGE STUDENTS FLYING FOR

06:57 - THE REASONS THAT WE ALL TRAVEL,

06:58 - THEY GO TO, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS

06:59 - MEETING TO GO ON VACATION TO

07:01 - GO HOME THEY OBVIOUSLY HAD NO

07:03 - IDEA. THEY WERE THEY WERE

07:04 - STEPPING INTO HISTORY. THERE

07:05 - ARE SOME SOME FASCINATING A DO

07:09 - OR BODILY WAS THE YOUNGEST ON

07:10 - BOARD. SHE WAS 20 YEARS OLD.

07:12 - SHE WAS A STUDENT AT SANTA

07:13 - CLARA UNIVERSITY IN CALIFORNIA

07:15 - WAS BACK EAST VISITING COLLEGE

07:17 - FRIENDS BEFORE THE SCHOOL YEAR.

07:19 - AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THESE

07:20 - KINDS OF STORIES SHE HAD OF

07:21 - TAKING ON A LATER FLIGHT WAS

07:22 - ABLE TO GET ON FLIGHT 93 TO GET

07:24 - HOME EARLY AND THAT BROUGHT

07:26 - THIS FATE. TELL THEM OUR SON

07:27 - WAS THE OLDEST PERSON. 79 TO

07:29 - AND FROM 20 TO 79. SHE WAS BORN

07:32 - IN GERMANY. CAME THROUGH ELLIS

07:33 - ISLAND AS A LITTLE GIRL RAISED

07:36 - 2 DAUGHTERS AND WAS GOING TO

07:38 - VISIT HER DAUGHTER IN

07:39 - CALIFORNIA. BUT IT WASN'T JUST

07:40 - A VACATION. SHE WAS ACTUALLY

07:41 - MOVING IN WITH HER, THE ADULT

07:43 - OR IMPACT 3 SUITCASES. SO IT'S

07:45 - A VERY EXCITING DAY FOR BOTH

07:47 - HER AND HER DAUGHTER, JON

07:49 - TELLING MAN HE WAS A WORLD WAR.

07:51 - 2 ERA VETERAN WHO WAS TRAVELING

07:53 - WITH VERY HEAVY HEART. HIS

07:55 - STEPSON HAD BEEN RECENTLY

07:56 - MARRIED AND ON THE CALIFORNIA

07:57 - ON HIS VACATION WAS TRAGICALLY

07:59 - KILLED IN AN AUTO ACCIDENT IN

08:00 - CALIFORNIA. SO JOHN WAS

08:01 - ACTUALLY GOING. TO A FUNERAL

08:04 - WE CANNOT REMEMBER. FORGET THAT

08:06 - THE CREW TALK A LOT ABOUT THE

08:08 - PAST YEARS, BUT IT WAS

08:08 - PASSENGERS AND CREW. THE 40

08:10 - PEOPLE TO 33 PASSES AND 7 CREW.

08:12 - AND YES, SOME OF THEM HAD HAD

08:14 - CHANGED THEIR SCHEDULES.

08:15 - THE CAPTAIN, JASON DAHL, ONE OF

08:17 - THE FLIGHT ATTENDANTS AND THE

08:18 - BRIGHT SIDE HAD BIG PERSONAL

08:20 - EVENTS COMING UP IN LATE

08:21 - SEPTEMBER. JASON HAD HIS

08:23 - WEDDING ANNIVERSARY. SANDY HAD

08:25 - THE BIRTH FIRST BIRTHDAY OF

08:26 - HER SON. SO THEY WANTED TO GET

08:28 - SOME FLY OUT OF THE WAY.

08:29 - SO THEY THEY THEY GOT ON THE

08:31 - FLIGHT 93 SO THEY COULD HAVE

08:32 - SOME CLEAR LATE IN THE MONTH.

08:35 - SO THERE'S A LOT OF FAITH THAT

08:36 - BROUGHT THEM HERE. THEY WERE.

08:37 - THERE WAS A LOT OF ATHLETIC

08:38 - PROWESS. IT WHICH ACTUALLY CAME

08:40 - INTO PLAY. THAT WAS A NATIONAL

08:41 - COLLEGIATE JUDO CHAMPION,

08:43 - NATIONAL COLLEGIATE RUGBY

08:44 - CHAMPIONS. I'VE BEEN A HIGH

08:45 - SCHOOL QUARTERBACK AND

08:46 - RECRUITED TO PLAY A IN COLLEGE,

08:48 - SMALL COLLEGE BASEBALL AND

08:49 - BASKETBALL PLAYER. AND WE'LL

08:51 - GET INTO THIS A LITTLE LATER.

08:52 - THERE ALSO WAS A WAS A PILOT ON

08:54 - BOARD AMONG THE PASSENGERS WAS

08:55 - A SMALL PLANE PILOT. SO IT WAS

08:56 - A FASCINATING GROUP.

08:58 - >>WELL, I CAN MENTION RISK

08:59 - WOULD NOT KNOW HE WAS A A FOR

09:01 - SERVICE AND FISH AND WILDLIFE

09:03 - SERVICE MANAGER, WILDLIFE

09:04 - MANAGER AND IN OREGON AND HE

09:07 - WAS ON THE PLANE TO HE WOULD

09:08 - HAVE.

09:10 - PARENTS ARE DEFENSIVE SKILLS

09:11 - WITH HIM AND CERTAIN TACTICS

09:13 - THAT HE COULD AND COULDN'T USE

09:15 - YOU KNOW, LAW ENFORCEMENT

09:16 - RANGER BEFORE HE WAS A MANAGER.

09:19 - >>WHAT WERE THE INTENDED

09:20 - DESTINATIONS OF THE 9.11

09:22 - AIRCRAFT WHERE THEY ORIGINATE

09:23 - FROM?

09:26 - >>PLAYING THERE'S ANYTHING NEW

09:28 - YORK.

09:30 - WHETHER THE OTHER 3 BOSS TO OR

09:32 - FROM BOSTON AND ONE WAS FROM A

09:34 - DC DALLAS AND THE CAUSE AND THE

09:36 - SAFE PICK TO.

09:37 - >>PART OF THE PLANNING. IT WAS

09:39 - QUITE PRECISE PLANNING. THEY

09:40 - THEY CHOSE MUHAMMAD AUTO, THE

09:42 - LEADER WHO PILOTED THE FIRST

09:43 - PLANE. IT'S THE FIRST TIME THE

09:45 - WORLD TRADE CENTER SELECTED FOR

09:47 - FLIGHTS THAT WERE SCHEDULED TO

09:48 - TAKE OFF. 25 MINUTES APART.

09:50 - SO THEIR PLAN TO THIS SO

09:52 - QUICKLY THAT THAT NO ONE COULD

09:53 - REACT TO THEY HAD TRAINED ON.

09:56 - THEY THE THEREFORE HIJACKER

09:58 - PILOTS HAD SOME LICENSES BY

10:00 - SMALL PLANES. THEY NEVER FLOWN

10:02 - COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS. THEY

10:03 - PRACTICED ON SIMULATORS FOR

10:04 - 7. 57 7.67, TWEETED SIMILAR

10:07 - COCKPIT SO THEY HAD TO PICK

10:09 - THOSE TYPES OF PLANES. ANY ONE

10:11 - OF THEM GOING FROM THE EAST

10:12 - COAST TO THE WEST COAST WITH

10:14 - A MAXIMUM FUEL LOADS FOR THE

10:16 - BIGGEST EXPLOSION. SO THESE

10:20 - PLANES, THE DATE AND THE AND

10:22 - THE TYPES OF PLANES WERE PART

10:23 - OF A VERY PRECISE PLANT.

10:25 - >>HE ALSO COMPLAINS THAT WORK.

10:27 - AND AT THAT TIME THEY WERE

10:28 - SPARSELY POPULATED. IT WAS

10:29 - ANOTHER NEWS CROSS-COUNTRY

10:31 - CONTINENTAL FLIGHT WERE SPARSE

10:33 - TUESDAY MORNING BUSY TRAVEL

10:35 - DAY. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE

10:36 - LOOK BACK NOW AT KSAT. THE

10:38 - PLANES WITH THOSE FEW

10:40 - PASSENGERS WOULD NOT TAKE OFF

10:41 - TODAY. THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY

10:43 - HAS A CHANGE WOULD NOT TAKE

10:44 - OFF A CROSS-COUNTRY FLIGHT WITH

10:45 - 33 PASSENGERS ON BOARD.

10:47 - >>A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE ASK US

10:49 - THOSE QUESTIONS. BUT THAT

10:50 - WASN'T THEY WERE JUST MOVING

10:51 - PLANES AROUND THE COUNTRY AT

10:52 - THAT POINT. SO THEY ALL THEY

10:55 - ALL HAD RELATIVE SMALL AS THE

10:56 - SMALLEST THAT WAS WAS FLIGHT.

10:57 - 93 WITH ONLY 33 PASSENGERS AND

10:59 - 7 CREW.

11:00 - >>IT'S ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT

11:01 - YOU SEE THE EFFECTS OF 9.11.

11:03 - YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S LIKE A FUN

11:04 - NOW ELBOW TO ELBOW AND VERY

11:06 - EARLY IN THE SPACE.

11:08 - >>YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE

11:10 - MAYBE A POTENTIAL TARGETS

11:12 - FLIGHT 93 HAD IN MIND. HOW DO

11:14 - THEY GO ABOUT DETERMINING THAT?

11:16 - >>THE FOR THE FOR THE ENTIRE

11:18 - WHY A FLIGHT 93 WAS ALWAYS GET

11:19 - GOING TO BE A IN THE SEA WHERE

11:21 - THERE'S A CAP OR THE WHITE

11:22 - HOUSE. IT WAS THERE WERE THERE

11:24 - WERE FROM EARLY PLANNING AND IN

11:27 - AFGHANISTAN EARLY 19, 9, 1999

11:30 - BIN LADEN, KHALID SHAIKH

11:32 - MOHAMMED, WHO WAS KIND OF MASK

11:33 - OF THIS DEAL. AND MOHAMED ATTA,

11:35 - WHO WAS BIN CHIEF, HE WAS IT

11:39 - WAS KILLED IN BOMBING SHORTLY

11:40 - AFTER AFTER 9.11, AND THOSE ARE

11:42 - THE 3 WHO BASICALLY STARTED THE

11:44 - PLANNING. SOME OF THE OTHER

11:45 - GOT INVOLVED. BUT YOU

11:47 - ORIGINALLY POLICE OR THE HOME

11:49 - AND WANTED THE 10 FLIGHTS A

11:51 - 5 ON EACH COAST HIT 10 BILLION,

11:53 - 9 BUILDINGS AND HE WAS GOING TO

11:54 - PILOT THE TENT AND LAND TO MAKE

11:56 - A SPEECH BIN LADEN, OF COURSE,

11:58 - KNEW THAT THAT WAS TOO

11:59 - GRANDIOSE, THAT THAT WE'VE BEEN

12:00 - TOO HARD TO TO COORDINATE.

12:03 - SO THEY THEY THEY CAME DOWN

12:05 - TO 2 JUST FOR WHICH THEY

12:06 - THOUGHT WAS THAT WAS

12:07 - MANAGEABLE.

12:08 - >>ONE OF THE INTERESTING POINTS

12:09 - FROM YOUR BOOK, A LOT OF PEOPLE

12:10 - DON'T THINK ABOUT IS THE TIMING

12:12 - OF THESE FLIGHTS FLIGHT.

12:13 - 93 WAS DELAYED. YOU THINK THAT

12:15 - SIGNIFICANT CHANGE THE OUTCOME?

12:17 - I ABSOLUTELY

12:18 - >>AND THAT CHOSE FLIGHTS FOR

12:23 - FLIGHTS WERE SUPPOSED TO TAKE

12:23 - OFF WITHIN. 25 MINUTES OF EACH

12:25 - OTHER HAD THAT HAPPENED.

12:27 - THIS PLANE ALMOST CERTAINLY

12:29 - WOULD HAVE HIT ITS TARGET.

12:30 - 2 THINGS THIS PLANE WAS IT WAS

12:34 - TAKEOVER 8 O'CLOCK TO NOT TAKE

12:35 - OFF TO

12:36 - A 42. I'M JUST THE HIJACKS NOT

12:40 - FACTOR IN NORMAL. NEWARK

12:42 - AIRPORT TRAFFIC. IT SAT THERE

12:43 - ON A ON THE TARMAC IN THE

12:45 - RUNWAY FOR A LOSS WITH TOOK

12:46 - OFF LATER THAN EXPECTED.

12:49 - THEY WERE ALSO SUPPOSED TO

12:51 - HIJACKED A PLANE. THEIR PLAN

12:52 - WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN WITHIN

12:53 - 15 MINUTES. THEY ONLY HAVE ONE

12:55 - OF THE FLIGHTS, BUT THE FIRST 3

12:56 - OLD IT WITHIN 30 MINUTES.

12:58 - THIS FLIGHT TOOK 30 TO 46.

13:01 - WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHY

13:02 - THESE GUYS TOOK LONGER. BUT

13:04 - THE COMBINATION OF THE DELAY IN

13:05 - TAKING OFF AND THE DELAY IS

13:07 - CORE TO THEIR PLANNING AND AND

13:09 - HIJACKING A PLANE. BUT THE PLAN

13:11 - WAS ALREADY OVER OHIO. SO IT

13:13 - WAS FARTHER AWAY HEAD FARTHER

13:14 - TO GO AND AND WE'LL GET INTO

13:17 - THIS AND FUTURE QUESTIONS MORE

13:18 - SIGNIFICANTLY. THE PASSENGERS

13:19 - AND CREW WERE ABLE TO CALL

13:21 - LOVED ONES ON THE GROUND AND

13:22 - FIND OUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

13:23 - I THINK WE ALWAYS TALK VERY

13:25 - IMPORTANT TO SAY THE PASSENGERS

13:27 - AND CREW IN THE FIRST 3 PLANS

13:28 - WERE WERE NO LESS BRAVE.

13:29 - THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS

13:30 - GOING ON BY THE TIME THESE GUYS

13:32 - WERE HIJACKED IT AT 9.28, 2

13:37 - PLANES HAD ALREADY CRASHED.

13:38 - A 3RD WAS HEADING TOWARD THE

13:39 - PENTAGON. SO THE LOVED ONES

13:41 - ON THE GROUND WERE ABLE TO TELL

13:42 - THEM. WELL, AS MAINE REPORTED

13:43 - ON TELEVISION AS THEY WERE ABLE

13:44 - TO REALIZE IT MUST HAVE BEEN

13:46 - HE WILL RING AND HORRENDOUS,

13:47 - BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO REALIZE

13:49 - WHAT WAS GOING ON AND THAT KIND

13:50 - OF CAUSED THEM TO THE SIDE.

13:52 - WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

13:54 - WHO WERE THESE HIJACKERS AND

13:55 - WHAT THEY DO ONCE ON BOARD

13:56 - FLIGHT. 93.

13:58 - >>THEY WELL,

14:00 - THERE WAS ONE FEWER THAN THE

14:02 - ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WAS SUPPOSED

14:03 - TO BE A 20 HIJACKERS 5 ON EACH

14:05 - FLIGHT.

14:06 - >>ONE HIJACKER PILOT AND FOR

14:08 - MUSCLE HIJACKERS TO ATTACK THE

14:10 - COCKPIT CONTROL FOR THE PAST

14:12 - YEARS. FLIGHT 93 ONLY HAD 4.

14:14 - THEY WERE UNABLE TO GET A 20TH

14:16 - HIJACKER IN THE COUNTRY MADE

14:17 - MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS BUT COULDN'T

14:19 - GET IN. SO IT ONE HIJACKER

14:22 - PILOT AND 3 MUSCLE HIJACKERS.

14:24 - THE PILOT WAS AS THE DRY WAS.

14:26 - 26 YEAR-OLD 26 YEARS OLD.

14:28 - HE WAS FROM LEBANON. HE WAS

14:30 - RIGHT. A LOT RIGHT. LIES IN A

14:31 - MOSQUE IN THE HAMBURG TURN HER

14:33 - MONEY WENT WE GOT KIND OF

14:36 - TRAINING CAMP IN AFGHANISTAN

14:37 - BECAME ONE OF THE SELECTED TO

14:39 - PILOTS. SO HE WAS INVOLVED IN

14:40 - THE PLANNING MUCH EARLIER THAN

14:43 - THAN THE THAN THE MUSCLE MAN.

14:44 - SO

14:45 - TO SPEAK. THEY WERE ALL

14:46 - RECRUITED WITHIN A YEAR YEAR

14:47 - AND A HALF

14:49 - OF OF THE PLOTS. THEY ALL HAD

14:51 - GONE BEEN RADICALIZE YOUNG MAN

14:52 - THAT THE OTHER 3 ON A FLIGHT 93

14:55 - WERE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 2023.

14:58 - >>THEY GO INTO THIS TRAINING

14:59 - CAMPS IN AFGHANISTAN. BALL

15:01 - VOLUNTEERED FOR A MARTYR.

15:02 - MISSION IS THEY WHEN THEY CAME

15:04 - TO THE U.S. THEY DID NOT KNOW

15:05 - EXACTLY WHAT THE PLOT WAS.

15:07 - THEY DIDN'T KNOW IS GOING TO BE

15:07 - AIRPLANES. THEY'VE BEEN TRAINED

15:08 - TO DO SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS.

15:09 - IT WASN'T UNTIL THEY GOT HERE

15:11 - THAT THEY KNEW, BUT THEY KNEW

15:12 - THEY WERE COMING TO THE U.S.

15:13 - TO BE INVOLVED IN THE MARTYRDOM

15:15 - MISSION.

15:15 - >>ONCE ON BOARD, HOW DID THEY

15:17 - TAKE CONTROL?

15:20 - IN SOME WAYS WE DON'T REALLY

15:21 - KNOW. UM.

15:23 - RAMSEY, BUT WILL SHE BE WHO WAS

15:25 - ONE OF THE PLOTTERS WHO'S IN

15:26 - GUANTANAMO BAY? TALK TO

15:30 - INVESTIGATORS AND HE DESCRIBED

15:32 - PLANS.

15:33 - WHERE THERE WOULD BE IF YOU

15:36 - LOOK AT THE AT THE MANIFEST,

15:37 - THIS IS THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED

15:38 - TO THE MUSCLE. HIJACKERS SAID

15:39 - VERY CLOSE TO THE FIRST CLASS,

15:41 - A VERY CLOSE TO THE COCKPIT IN

15:42 - FIRST CLASS TOUR. A LITTLE

15:44 - FARTHER BACK TO 2 CLOSEST TO

15:46 - THE COCKPIT WHERE THE WHERE

15:47 - THE BREAK-IN TEAM, THEY

15:49 - ATTACKED THE COCKPIT AT SOME

15:51 - POINT. THE OTHER 2 WITH CONTROL

15:53 - OF THE PASSENGERS AND CREW AND

15:54 - PUSHED HIM TO THE BACK OF THE

15:55 - PLANE THAT HAPPENED ON ALL 4

15:57 - FLIGHTS. THEY WERE VERY

15:58 - SUCCESSFUL. THEY WAITED TO A

16:00 - CERTAIN MOMENT. WE CAN'T EVER

16:02 - KNOW THAT WASN'T BECAUSE

16:04 - SOMEBODY OPEN THE COCKPIT DOOR

16:05 - THAT THEY ATTACKED ONE OF THE

16:06 - HOT ONE OF THE FLIGHT

16:08 - ATTENDANTS. THAT'S THAT'S

16:09 - LIKELY THE CASE WE KNOW OF AT

16:10 - LEAST PLACE. FLIGHT ATTENDANTS

16:12 - WERE STABBED LET LET ME INTO

16:14 - THE COCKPIT. THEY ATTACKED THE

16:15 - PILOTS. OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE

16:16 - COMING WITH KNIVES FROM BEHIND

16:18 - THE PILES OF STRAPPED IN.

16:20 - THERE WAS THERE WAS A BATTLE,

16:21 - BUT THE PILOTS, YOU KNOW, FIGHT

16:23 - BACK IN ALL INSTANCES, BUT

16:25 - REALLY HAD NO CHANCE AGAINST

16:26 - ARMED HIJACKERS COMING FROM

16:27 - BEHIND. THEY GOT THEM DRAGGED

16:29 - HIM OUT OF THE COCKPIT AND THEN

16:30 - THE HIJACKER PILOT SLIPPED IN

16:32 - TO TAKE OVER CONTROL THE PLANE.

16:34 - THEY PUSH THE PASSENGERS AND

16:35 - CREW TO THE BACK AND THAT'S

16:37 - GENERALLY WHAT WE CAN PIECE

16:38 - TOGETHER. WHAT HAPPENED?

16:39 - NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW FOR SURE.

16:41 - BUT FOR ESPECIALLY FOR THE

16:42 - PHONE CALLS AND WE GOT FROM

16:43 - FLIGHT 93 IS THE OTHER FLIGHTS

16:44 - THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE BEST

16:46 - WE CAN PIECE TOGETHER. WHAT

16:47 - HAPPENED. WERE YOU ALLOWED TO

16:49 - HAVE KNIVES ON THEIR PLATE?

16:51 - >>WE WANT TO CARRY A VARIETY

16:52 - OF THINGS WE CAN'T DO ANYMORE.

16:54 - ANOTHER CHANGE FROM THE TIMES

16:56 - THE AND THE HIJACKERS. THESE

16:58 - GUYS. RESEARCH, ALL OF THIS

17:02 - AMERICANS. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT

17:04 - MOST AMERICANS PLAY WITH THEM

17:05 - KNOW THAT. BUT AN EYEFUL, 4

17:08 - INCHES OR LESS WAS WAS LEGAL

17:10 - WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOPPED.

17:12 - AND SO THEY WENT TO STORES LIKE

17:13 - WALMART, HOME DEPOT AND BOUGHT

17:15 - A MULTIPURPOSE TOOLS. SOME OF

17:17 - THOSE WERE FOUND IT AT THE

17:19 - FLIGHT. 93 SITE AND OTHER

17:20 - SITES. THE RECEIPTS FOUND IN

17:22 - FLORIDA. THESE GUYS HAVING

17:23 - HAVING PURCHASED THEM SO ALL

17:25 - THE EVIDENCE POINTS TO THAT

17:27 - ONE. THAT'S WHAT THEY DID.

17:28 - THE OTHER A LOT OF RULES THAT

17:29 - ARE NOW IN PLACE. THE COCKPITS

17:30 - ALSO WANT VERY MUCH IN FORCE

17:33 - AT THAT POINT. SO WE JUST THEY

17:35 - THEY KIND OF ATTACK THE SOFT

17:37 - UNDERBELLY OF OF AVIATION IS A

17:39 - IS A COUNTRY.

17:40 - >>THOSE THINGS WERE GOING SO

17:41 - WELL. WE'D FALL ASLEEP A LITTLE

17:43 - YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A IT WAS A

17:45 - A SURVEY NOT LONG BEFORE THAT.

17:47 - AND THE BIGGEST CONCERN OF

17:48 - PASTORS ON AIR AND AIR TRAVEL

17:51 - REPAIRS ON PLATES WHERE THE

17:53 - WHERE THE PLANE SAFE

17:54 - MECHANICALLY TO FLY TERRORISM

17:56 - WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT THAT WE

17:57 - WE THOUGHT ABOUT.

17:59 - >>I THINK THAT AND ONE THING

18:01 - ONE FUN AND IT SURPRISED ME

18:02 - DOWN HERE OUTSIDE OF THIS.

18:03 - ONCE WE FOUND THE SEARCH.

18:06 - YOU KNOW, THE SEARCH FOR LIFE

18:07 - THAT YOU CARRY IN TO OPERATE.

18:09 - AND, YOU KNOW THAT IF THAT WAS

18:11 - ONE OF THE NIGHT OF THAT USED

18:12 - TO ATTACK HAPPENS.

18:18 - AND I KIND OF MADE ME THAT YOU

18:19 - CAN FIND THOSE THINGS.

18:24 - >>CAN WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE

18:25 - THINGS THAT WERE LOCATED AT

18:26 - THE CRASH SITE? SURE. REPORTER.

18:31 - THE FLIGHT DATA RECORDER

18:32 - COVERED AND THAT WAS KEY.

18:33 - AND AND ESTABLISHING WHAT YOU

18:35 - SEE IN THE VISITOR CENTER

18:36 - SCORES PLAY PATH AND

18:40 - >>I THINK AND AND

18:42 - ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRIKES

18:44 - ME AS TO HOW FAST THIS PLANE

18:46 - WAS GOING, WHICH IS 563 MILES

18:47 - AN HOUR. HOW HARD IT HIT THOSE

18:50 - 2 ITEMS WHICH ARE LOCATED IN

18:51 - THE BACK OF THE PLANE WERE

18:53 - FOUND 15 FEET AND 25 FEET INTO

18:55 - THE GROUND.

18:56 - SO IT DIDN'T KNOW IT. DID IT

18:58 - CRASHED. IT UNFATHOMABLE SPEED.

19:01 - RIGHT ON THE AREA OF THE

19:02 - RECLAIMED STRIP LINE. SO THE

19:03 - GROUND WASN'T HAS CONSOLIDATED

19:06 - AS AS NORTH HAS BEEN PUT BACK

19:08 - AS FOR HEAD AND THEY THEY FOUND

19:10 - OBJECTS THE PLANE. 35 FEET DEEP

19:11 - TO ACTUALLY DOWN TO 40 FEET

19:13 - DEEP TO MAKE SURE. BUT I THINK

19:14 - IT HIT YOU WHEN THOSE 2 OBJECTS

19:16 - IN THE BACK OF THE PLANE WERE

19:17 - FROM THAT DEEP INTO THE GROUND

19:18 - AND LET YOU KNOW THE THE IMPACT

19:20 - OF THIS CRASH.

19:21 - THE THEORY BECAUSE OF WHERE

19:23 - THEY FOUND ITEMS. IS THAT ABOUT

19:25 - THE FRONT 3RD OF THE PLANE

19:26 - BASICALLY SNAPPED OFF SHATTERED

19:28 - AND FLEW INTO THE HEMLOCK TREES

19:30 - OVER A SHORT. THEY FOUND A LOT

19:31 - OF MATERIAL IN THOSE HEMLOCK

19:33 - TREES. A LOT OF THE HIJACKER

19:35 - IDENTIFICATION MATERIALS IS THE

19:37 - INTEREST PASSPORTS, OTHER

19:38 - THINGS, LUGGAGE ALSO SAY THAT

19:41 - THEY FOUND THE THING TO

19:42 - REMEMBER HERE IS THAT THE FBI

19:45 - KNEW FROM THE START THAT THIS

19:46 - WOULD BE THE SITE WHERE THEY

19:47 - WOULD FIND THE MOST AT EVIDENCE

19:48 - BECAUSE THE PLANE DID NOT HIT

19:50 - A BUILDING. THOSE PLANES HIT

19:52 - CONCRETE AND STEEL IN NEW YORK

19:54 - IN AND WASHINGTON, D.C., THEY

19:56 - WERE DESTROYED. THERE WERE

19:57 - IMBEDDED IN BUILDINGS IS HIT

19:59 - THE GROUND. THERE WAS A FIRE

20:01 - CERTAINLY BECAUSE OF ALL THE

20:02 - THE FUEL ON BOARD. BUT THEY

20:03 - TALK ABOUT A HUGE FIREBALL AS

20:05 - IT IS FOR A HUGE FIREBALL BUT

20:07 - DIDN'T BURN BURN BURN VERY LONG

20:09 - BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY NOTHING

20:10 - DOWN THERE TO BURN. SO A LOT OF

20:12 - THAT MATERIAL THAT MOVE WENT TO

20:13 - THE GROUND WAS, IN FACT

20:15 - RECOVERED. IT WASN'T IN GREAT

20:16 - SHAPE THAT WAS SHATTERED.

20:17 - BUT ENOUGH OF THE THINGS WE'RE

20:18 - COMING WEEKEND, I THINK THE

20:20 - FBI, WHICH WOULD TELL YOU THAT

20:22 - THEY THEY PIECE TOGETHER MORE

20:23 - OF THE PLOT FROM WHAT THEY

20:24 - FOUND HERE. SOMERSET COUNTY,

20:26 - THEN IN NEW YORK OR DC WHICH

20:28 - WHICH WHICH MAKES SENSE.

20:29 - I THINK WE I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF

20:31 - THE CREDIT CARD TO TEARS HERE.

20:32 - >>AND IT OPENED UP THE

20:33 - FINANCIAL SORT WE'VE THAT THEY

20:37 - STARTED WITH THEY WERE RIGHT ON

20:38 - THE MONEY ABOUT MAY COME IN A

20:40 - LOT OF REASONS TO END THIS

20:41 - INVESTIGATION.

20:43 - >>FLIGHT 93 GETTING BACK WAS

20:45 - DELAYED ON THE RUNWAY WOULD

20:47 - HAVE SEEN POTENTIALLY THE FIRST

20:49 - TOWER HIT IF THE LATE IN THE

20:50 - LONG.

20:51 - >>BOY DID VERY WELL COULD THE

20:54 - FIRST PLANE HIT THE WORLD TRADE

20:56 - CENTER 8.46. FLIGHT 93

20:58 - SCHEDULED TO TAKE UP AN 8

20:59 - O'CLOCK TOOK OFF AT 8.42.

21:01 - AT NEWARK.

21:03 - OBVIOUSLY TO THE FEW MINUTES

21:04 - TURN AROUND AND AND AND HEAD

21:06 - WEST ACROSS PENNSYLVANIA.

21:07 - SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON ITS

21:08 - WAY NEW YORK CITY WOULD HAVE

21:11 - BEEN BEHIND IT AT THAT BY A

21:13 - 46. VERY CLOSE. A FEW MINUTES.

21:15 - WAR AND THEY MAY HAVE SEEN THAT

21:17 - PLANE GOING TO THE TOWER EITHER

21:19 - FROM THE TARMAC, THE RUNWAY OR

21:20 - FROM THE AIR. WHO KNOWS WHAT

21:22 - IMPACT THAT WOULD HAVE IF IT

21:25 - ALL OF A SUDDEN, THEN THE PILES

21:26 - ARE RADIO AND WHAT'S COOL,

21:27 - WHAT'S GOING ON? AGAIN, A LOT

21:29 - OF LOT OF THERE ARE A LOT OF

21:30 - WHAT IFS TO THIS STORY THAT

21:31 - DIDN'T HAPPEN WAS VERY IT WAS

21:33 - VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THEM SAYING

21:34 - I WAS WONDER WHAT WHAT THE

21:35 - IMPACT WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD.

21:36 - THEY SEEN THAT NOW WE'VE

21:37 - MENTIONED THE FLIGHT PATH A FEW

21:39 - TIMES. DO WE KNOW THE EXACT

21:40 - FLIGHT PATH OF FLIGHT? 93?

21:41 - >>EXACTLY. IT'S LAID OUT IN THE

21:43 - IN THE.

21:44 - >>THE VISITOR CENTER COMPLEX.

21:46 - AND JASON, THE LEARNING CENTER

21:47 - IN THE FINAL MAKE MY CHRIS

21:50 - SECONDS ARE LAID OUT. SO THE

21:51 - MORAL LAW.

21:52 - >>FROM FINDING THE FLIGHT DATA

21:53 - RECORDER, THEY THIS WAS AGAIN,

21:55 - THE ONLY FLIGHT WHERE THEY

21:56 - FOUND BOTH BLACK BOXES, THE

21:57 - FLIGHT DATA RECORDER AND THE

21:58 - COCKPIT VOICE RECORDER, THE NEW

22:00 - YORK FLIGHTS, THE TUNER PLACE.

22:01 - THEY FOUND NOTHING AT THE

22:03 - PENTAGON. THEY FOUND THE FLIGHT

22:04 - DATA RECORDER BUT NOT THE AND

22:05 - THE COCKPIT VOICE RECORDER I

22:06 - THINK WAS RECOVERED. BUT BUT IT

22:07 - WASN'T IT WASN'T WORKING.

22:09 - SO SO MUCH TO THE EVIDENCE.

22:10 - WHAT WE KNOW, NOT JUST A

22:12 - FLIGHT, 93, WHERE THIS WHOLE

22:13 - PLOT CAME FROM FROM THOSE 2

22:15 - BLACK BOXES WHICH ALLOWED THEM

22:17 - TO PLOT THE THE ENTIRE THE

22:20 - ENTIRE FLIGHT PATH. IT WAS

22:21 - GOING ACROSS PENNSYLVANIA.

22:22 - YOU CAN SEE WE KNOW FOR FOR A

22:24 - NUMBER OF REASONS THAT IT WAS

22:25 - HIJACKED AT 9.28, YOU CAN SEE

22:28 - WHERE IT WAS WAS JUST JUST

22:29 - ABOUT THE PENNSYLVANIA OHIO

22:30 - BORDER. IT WENT ALMOST AS FAR

22:32 - AS CLEVELAND JUST ABOUT THAT

22:33 - AREA WHEN IT WHEN IT TURNED

22:35 - AROUND AND STARTED VEERING

22:37 - TOWARD THE SOUTHWEST, BASICALLY

22:38 - COMING WELL, MOST ACROSS

22:40 - PITTSBURGH.

22:41 - TOWARD DC AT THAT POINT.

22:42 - OF COURSE, IT WAS BEING FLOWN

22:44 - BY A HIJACKER PILOT WHO NEVER

22:45 - FLOWN A COMMERCIAL AIRLINER

22:46 - BEFORE. BUT WITH 2 AUTOMATIC

22:50 - THEY WERE IF THEY WERE HEADED

22:50 - IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

22:52 - >>IT'S AN INTERESTING STORY TO

22:53 - HOW WE ACQUIRED THAT PLAYED

22:54 - AT IT BECAUSE IN THE TIME FRAME

22:57 - THAT INFORMATION HAD BEEN

22:58 - RELEASED HERE, THAT ONE OF OUR

23:00 - RESEARCHERS ACTION FOR FOOD

23:02 - AND SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO

23:03 - SEE IT. SO IF THAT'S A TIME,

23:05 - THAT'S THE SORT OF THE

23:06 - EVOLUTION OF WHAT HAPPENED TO

23:07 - SAY AND HOW INFORMATION

23:09 - EVENTUALLY WAS RECEIVED HERE.

23:11 - >>NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN

23:12 - ERA JUST BEFORE THE DAWN OF

23:14 - CELL PHONES. SMARTPHONES OUT OF

23:16 - PEOPLE ON BOARD FLIGHT. 93,

23:18 - FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE

23:19 - OTHER. CERTAINLY WAS HERE

23:21 - BEFORE SMARTPHONES.

23:22 - >>WE HAVE SO IT'S ONE OF THE

23:24 - THINGS THAT WHEN I DO MY TALKS,

23:25 - I TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT

23:27 - THE PEOPLE. REMEMBER. THERE'S

23:30 - HISTORY AND MEMORY

23:32 - >>A LOT OF I THINK A LOT OF

23:33 - PEOPLE.

23:35 - PAID A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THE

23:36 - REPORTING ON AND SEPTEMBER.

23:38 - 11TH.

23:39 - >>FOR ABOUT 7 TO 10 DAYS A

23:41 - YEAR. AND THEN THEY HAD TO MOVE

23:42 - ON WITH THE REST OF THEIR

23:43 - LIVES. SO FOR THEM AND WE SEE

23:45 - VISITORS HERE, A LOT OF THERE

23:47 - MEMORY OF WHAT HAPPENED IS WHAT

23:48 - WAS REPORTED. THIS FOR 7 TO

23:50 - 10 DAYS AND A LOT OF IT WAS

23:52 - WRONG. IT'S NOT THE MEDIA'S

23:53 - FAULT. IT'S IT'S CHAOS WAS BE

23:55 - WATER WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO

23:56 - FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED.

23:58 - IT WAS REPORTED VERY EARLY THAT

23:59 - THE CALLS ALL CAME FROM CELL

24:00 - PHONES AND THAT LED TO

24:02 - CONSPIRACY THEORIES HAVING TO

24:04 - CALL FROM A CELL PHONE AT

24:05 - 35,000 FEET. WELL, THEY DID

24:07 - NOT. THERE WERE THERE WERE 37

24:09 - PHONE CALLS FROM FLIGHT 93.

24:10 - 35 OF THEM CAME FROM THEIR

24:12 - PHONES, THE HORIZON, AIR PHONES

24:14 - THAT WERE SEATBACK PHONES, THE

24:16 - THE OLDER PASSENGERS WILL

24:18 - REMEMBER THEY WERE A STAPLE

24:19 - OF FLIGHT BACK THING. YOU CAN

24:20 - PULL THEM OFF LIKE A CREDIT

24:21 - CARD TO MAKE A CALL FROM 35,000

24:22 - FEET VIDEO SCREENS NOW YOUNG

24:24 - PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY

24:25 - WORE, BUT THEY WERE

24:27 - COMMONPLACE. AND IT THAT DATA

24:30 - ALONE AND THEY HELP THE FBI IS

24:32 - INVESTIGATION. THE AGENCY.

24:34 - NOT ONLY WHO THE CALLS WERE

24:35 - MADE TO WHERE THEY WERE MADE

24:37 - FROM ON BOARD. SO, YOU KNOW,

24:38 - WHERE THE PASSENGERS WERE WERE

24:39 - SEEDED AT THAT POINT AND HOW

24:41 - LONG THE CALLS TOOK. SO IT WAS

24:43 - VERY BRIEF. SOME LAST 20

24:46 - MINUTES OR SO. THE FINAL 2

24:47 - CALLS WHEN THE PLANE WAS MUCH

24:49 - LOWER WERE MADE FROM CELL

24:50 - PHONES OR 2 CELL PHONE CALLS.

24:52 - BUT MOST OF THEM WERE FROM

24:53 - WE'RE FROM THEIR PHONES.

24:54 - AND THAT STILL, I THINK A LOT

24:56 - OF PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED BY THAT

24:58 - TODAY.

24:59 - NOW WE MENTIONED 9.28, VERY

25:01 - SPECIFICALLY. HOW DO WE KNOW

25:02 - THAT?

25:04 - >>COUPLE ONE BY LOOKING AT THE

25:06 - FLIGHT DATA RECORDER OF THE

25:07 - PLANE DIPPED RIGHT AT THAT

25:11 - AND THAT WAS DRAMATICALLY.

25:12 - BUT CERTAINLY ENOUGH TO NOTICE

25:13 - THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING ON.

25:15 - BUT ALSO.

25:16 - >>AND COMMUNICATIONS WITH AIR

25:17 - TRAFFIC CONTROL. ONE OF THE

25:19 - PILOTS HAD KEY THAT MICROPHONE

25:21 - PROBABLY UNDER ATTACK AND KEEP

25:23 - THAT MICROPHONE PRETTY TO LET

25:25 - HER KNOW THAT PEOPLE IN THE

25:26 - GROUND THAT WAS GOING ON.

25:28 - >>AND YOU CAN HEAR COMMOTION

25:30 - AND THE PILOTS SAYING MAYDAY,

25:32 - MAYDAY, GET OUT OF HERE.

25:33 - GET OUT OF HERE. AND THAT

25:34 - CONTINUED FOR ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

25:36 - SO THOSE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL

25:39 - RECORDINGS

25:40 - >>BECAME VERY VALUABLE AND

25:41 - ESTABLISHING THAT TIME THAT THE

25:43 - FLIGHT DATA RECORDER EVEN SEE

25:44 - THE TIP. OKAY. THIS IS WHEN

25:46 - THIS IS WHEN THAT HAPPENED.

25:47 - IT HAS TRULY AFTER THAT THE

25:48 - PLANE ROSE TO ABOUT 40,000

25:51 - FEET, WHICH IS MUCH HIGHER THAN

25:52 - ITS. THAT'S NO CRUISING

25:54 - ALTITUDE AND DRAWING EVER

25:56 - THOUGHT OF COMMERCIAL PLANE.

25:58 - THE CHARGE AND THEN AND THEN HE

25:59 - STARTED TO TURN AROUND.

26:02 - >>CAN YOU TAKE US THROUGH HOW

26:03 - THE PASSENGERS ACTUALLY RECLAIM

26:05 - THE AIRCRAFT FROM THE

26:06 - HIJACKERS?

26:07 - >>WELL, FIRST WOULD HAVE BEEN

26:08 - THE FIRST CALLS AT 9.30.

26:12 - >>ONE OF PASTORS, TOM BURNETT

26:14 - PLACED A CALL. I JUST 2 MINUTES

26:16 - AFTERWARD.

26:18 - >>AND HE IT.

26:19 - >>THE IDEA OF THESE CALLS.

26:23 - FROM THE IDEA THE PASSENGERS

26:24 - AND CREW WAS TO INFORM THEIR

26:26 - LOVED ONES. WHAT WAS GOING ON?

26:29 - THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE WAS

26:31 - THAT THEY FOUND OUT WHAT WAS

26:32 - GOING ON THE GROUND. THEY

26:34 - OBVIOUSLY HAD NO IDEA THAT

26:35 - THERE WERE OTHER HIJACKINGS

26:36 - GOING ON IN THEIR WORLD WAS

26:38 - JUST IN THAT PLAN TO IMAGINE

26:39 - HOW THEY WILL RING CONFUSING,

26:41 - TERRIFYING. THAT WOULD HAVE

26:42 - BEEN ONE OF THE FIRST CLASS

26:44 - PASSENGERS NEAR TOM BURNETT HAD

26:45 - BEEN STABBED. THIS HAPPENED AT

26:47 - LEAST 2 OF THE FLIGHTS.

26:48 - PROBABLY PROBABLY ALL OF THEM.

26:49 - WE KNOW ON A FLOOD LEVEL

26:51 - FLIGHT, 93 THAT THERE WAS

26:52 - TESTIMONY FROM PEOPLE CALLING

26:55 - GROUND THAT THE PASTOR HAD BEEN

26:56 - STABBED. PROBABLY THE AL QAEDA

26:58 - MAN WANTED TO SHOW THAT THEY

26:59 - WERE IN CHARGE AND THAT THIS

27:01 - WAS DEADLY TO TO FRIGHTEN THE

27:02 - REST OF THE PASSENGERS AND

27:03 - CREW. SO THEY KNEW SOMETHING

27:07 - THEY KNEW RIGHT AWAY. THIS

27:08 - WASN'T A NORMAL HIJACKING.

27:09 - THE KIND WE SEE IN THE MOVIES

27:11 - WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO LAND AND

27:12 - THERE'S GOING TO BE DEMANDING

27:12 - RANSOM. EVERYBODY'S GOING TO

27:13 - BE OK AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE

27:16 - STARTED TO MAKE CALLS IS

27:17 - SOMETHING WERE RECORDED AS

27:19 - EARLY AS 9.37, THROUGH THESE

27:21 - CALLS. THEY'RE ALL GETTING

27:22 - INFORMATION FROM DIFFERENT

27:24 - LOVED ONES ON THE GROUND.

27:25 - THE PLANES THAT HIT THE WORLD

27:26 - TRADE CENTER. AND AGAIN, HOW BE

27:28 - WEARING THAT MUST HAVE BEEN

27:31 - YOU DON'T REALLY HEAR, IN THE

27:33 - CHRONOLOGY BOUGHT A PLAN TO

27:35 - TAKE BACK THE PLANE UNTIL THE

27:37 - TOWARD THE PENTAGON, DEPENDING

27:39 - ON FLIGHT CRASHED AT 9.37.

27:42 - SO BY THE TIME IT GETS

27:43 - REPORTED, JUST PROBABLY 9.45 TO

27:46 - 30 GETTING THIS INFORMATION,

27:48 - AT LEAST 2 OF THE PASSENGERS

27:49 - WERE TOLD BY THEIR WIVES AT THE

27:50 - PENTAGON HAS BEEN HIT IN MY

27:52 - VIEW FROM LOOKING AT IT, WE

27:54 - HAVE TO TAKE THAT THE FACTS

27:55 - THAT WE HAVE IT AND MAKE OUR

27:56 - BEST INTERPRETATION. SO THIS

27:58 - IS SOME INTERPRETATION. I THINK

27:59 - THAT'S WHAT GALVANIZE AND

28:00 - THAT'S WHEN THEY ABSOLUTELY NO.

28:03 - THEY WEREN'T GOING HOME.

28:04 - THEY WANT TO DO AND THEY WERE

28:05 - GOING TO THE BUILDING SOMEWHERE

28:06 - AND THEY HAD TO DO SOMETHING.

28:07 - AND

28:08 - >>AND THEY STARTED TO ACT.

28:10 - WE CAN NEVER KNOW THEIR PRECISE

28:11 - PLAN NOBODY EVER TALKED ABOUT.

28:13 - THAT'S A COUPLE OF THEM.

28:14 - DID MENTION WE'RE GOING TO DO

28:15 - SOMETHING. WE'RE GOING TO TRY

28:16 - TO TAKE BACK THE PLANE. WE'RE

28:17 - GOING TO TAX THE GUY WITH THE

28:18 - BOMB. SO CLEARLY ONE OF THE

28:20 - LIES MUSCLE HIJACKERS HAD A

28:21 - FAKE BOMB TIED AROUND HIS WAIST

28:24 - USED TO THREATEN THE

28:25 - PASSENGERS. I'M GONNA BLOW THE

28:26 - PLANE UP. THEY DETERMINE AFTER

28:29 - A WHILE THAT IT WAS PROBABLY

28:30 - FAKE, WHICH IT WAS OR NO WELL,

28:33 - THE DEPRESSION, AGAIN IN THIS

28:35 - PATTERN WAS FOUND AND SEVERAL

28:37 - OTHER FLIGHTS OF THE PATTERN

28:38 - OF TAKE OVER WITH WAS THE SAME.

28:40 - WE JUST GOT MORE. THE TESTIMONY

28:41 - FROM THESE PEOPLE CALLING THAT

28:43 - THE STORY OF 9.11, IN MANY WAYS

28:45 - IS TOLD BY THOSE BRAVE PEOPLE,

28:46 - A PASTOR WHO CALLING THEIR

28:48 - LOVED ONES ON THE GROUND.

28:49 - SO IF IT TOOK ABOUT 10 MINUTES

28:52 - FOR THEM TO FORMULATE THEIR

28:53 - PLAN. EVERY TIME I WANT TO

28:55 - 7.57, I LOOKED DOWN AT MERRILL.

28:57 - I WAS THINKING MY GOD, HOW DID

28:58 - HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DO IT HAD

29:00 - TO BE SINGLE FILE IT STARTED AT

29:04 - 9.57, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT

29:05 - FOR SEVERAL REASONS, TOO.

29:07 - LADIES, ONE PASSENGER, ONE

29:08 - FLIGHT ATTENDANT WERE BOTH ON

29:10 - THE PHONE TO LOVED ONES ON THE

29:12 - GROUND. AND THEY BOTH SAID

29:14 - SOMETHING YOU CAN TOO.

29:15 - EVERYBODY WAS RUNNING THE FIRST

29:16 - CLASS. EVERYBODY'S RIGHT TO

29:17 - COME TO THE COCKPIT. I'VE GOT

29:19 - TO GO. THEY'RE DOING IT.

29:20 - WE HAVE THAT EVIDENCE. WE ALSO

29:22 - HAVE IN THE COCKPIT VOICE

29:23 - RECORDER, THE PILOT JUDGE OR A

29:25 - SAY IN ARABIC. WHAT'S THAT?

29:27 - A FIGHT? 2 OF THE HIGH 2 OF THE

29:29 - HIJACKERS WERE IN THE COCKPIT

29:31 - TO ARE THE MOST MEN TRYING TO

29:32 - CONTROL THE PASSENGERS AND CREW

29:33 - SAID THEY HEARD A COMMOTION.

29:34 - BAXTER. SO THOSE 2 THINGS IS IT

29:37 - BASIC CONFIRMED TO US THAT

29:38 - THAT'S WHEN IT STARTED YOU

29:41 - KNOW, THE MOVIE UNITED 93.

29:43 - IT IS PROBABLY IS ACCURATE

29:45 - DEPICTION AS YOU CAN GET.

29:46 - CERTAINLY THEY WOULD HAVE GONE

29:47 - FOR THE FIRST 2 MUSCLE

29:49 - HIJACKERS ON THAT. THE COCKPIT

29:51 - VOICE RECORDER, WHICH NONE OF

29:52 - US HAVE HEARD ONLY ONLY THE

29:54 - FAMILY MEMBERS AND THE JURY AND

29:56 - THE MISS ALLY TRIBE ACTUALLY

29:57 - HEARD IT. BUT IN DETAIL

29:58 - TRANSCRIPT HAS BEEN RELEASED BY

29:59 - THE FBI SAY WHAT WAS SAID.

30:04 - WHAT WAS SAID, MALE OR FEMALE

30:06 - SPEAKER ENGLISH OR ARABIC.

30:07 - SO IT ALLOWS YOU TO TO TO KIND

30:09 - OF THE SAFER A LITTLE BIT,

30:10 - MAYBE IN THE CHAOS THAT WAS

30:12 - HAPPENING AND THERE ARE ARABIC

30:13 - SCREAMS IN ARABIC AT THIS TIME.

30:15 - SO WE CAN ASSUME THAT FIGHTING

30:16 - IS GOING ON. AND AND THE MALE

30:19 - PASSENGERS IN PARTICULAR ARE

30:20 - OVERPOWERING. THESE GUYS,

30:22 - JEREMY GLICK WAS THE MAN I

30:24 - MENTIONED. HE WAS A HE WAS A

30:26 - NATIONAL JUDO CHAMPION AT THE

30:27 - UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER ARE

30:30 - IT WAS ON A 2 TIME NATIONAL

30:32 - CHAMPION UNIVERSITY OF

30:33 - CALIFORNIA RUGBY TEAM WAS A GUY

30:34 - WHO RUN WITH THE BULLS. HE WAS

30:36 - A DAREDEVIL. TOM BURNETT HAD

30:38 - PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL QUARTERBACK,

30:39 - RECRUITED TO PLAY IN COLLEGE.

30:42 - A POINT TO THE AIR FORCE

30:43 - ACADEMY DID NOT ATTEND, BUT

30:44 - IT'S VERY MUCH A LEADER

30:46 - ATHLETIC TYPE. TODD BEAMER,

30:47 - WHOSE NAME IS FOR THE MOST

30:48 - FAMOUS WAS A SMALL COLLEGE

30:51 - BASEBALL AND BASKETBALL PLAYER

30:53 - AND OTHERS AS WELL AS WHAT'S

30:54 - GOING WAS WAS IT WAS A TRAINED

30:56 - LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, JOE

30:57 - ENOCH. IT WAS A BARREL CHESTED

30:59 - WEIGHTLIFTER WERE PEOPLE ON

31:00 - BOARD WHO WOULD HAVE DONE JOEY

31:03 - MACKEY WAS ONE WHO DIDN'T CALL,

31:05 - YOU KNOW THAT. YOU KNOW, 12

31:08 - PEOPLE CALLED 28 DIDN'T.

31:10 - WE DON'T KNOW THAT A LOT OF

31:11 - HISTORY WAS LOST BECAUSE OF

31:13 - THAT AND SOME OF THEIR LOVED

31:14 - ONES, RICHARD, AN APPARENT THAT

31:15 - HE WOULD NEVER CALLED A LOT

31:17 - OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT. THEY

31:18 - WOULDN'T WANT TO WORRY THEIR

31:20 - LOVED ONES. I CAN TELL YOU

31:21 - ANYBODY LISTENING. HOPEFULLY

31:22 - YOU'RE NEVER IN THAT SITUATION.

31:24 - BUT I KNOW THE FAMILIES FROM

31:25 - TALKING TO THE FAMILIES WHO GOT

31:26 - THOSE CALLS ARE MUCH MORE

31:27 - CONFIDENT. THERE IS SOME CLEAR

31:29 - THEY THEY HEARD WHAT WAS GOING

31:30 - ON. THE OTHER ONES HAVE JUST

31:32 - THE BRAVERY OF SILENCE OF THEIR

31:35 - OF THEIR LOVED ONES. I THINK

31:36 - THE FAMILIES PROBABLY WOULD

31:37 - HAVE WANTED TO KNOW. BUT THESE

31:38 - PEOPLE THAT'S THEIR MAKEUP.

31:40 - I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE

31:41 - THAT BEFORE RESEARCHING THIS

31:42 - STORY. I'M NOT GOING TO WORRY

31:45 - ON THE GROUND. SO.

31:47 - I SAW YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE

31:49 - PERSONALITIES. RICHARD WENT ON

31:50 - AND DID NOT CALL HIS

31:51 - BACKGROUND. JUST INDICATED HE

31:53 - WOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED JOEY

31:55 - MACKEY WAS NOT THE KIND OF GUY

31:57 - WHO WOULD HAVE SAID YOU GUYS,

31:59 - GO AHEAD. I'M GOING TO SIT

32:00 - HERE. YOU TELL ME WHAT, HOW

32:02 - YEAR HOW YOUR COUNTERATTACK

32:04 - WORKED OUT. SO I THINK YOU HAVE

32:05 - ANOTHER PERSONNEL AS WE'VE BEEN

32:06 - INVOLVED HERE. THEY COME

32:09 - BARRELING DOWN AND THERE ARE

32:10 - SOME ATHLETIC WOMEN, 2 VERY

32:11 - DETERMINED WOMEN PEOPLE HAD

32:13 - DIFFERENT DIFFERENT ROLES.

32:14 - I'M SURE THERE ARE LOGISTICS

32:16 - OR SECURITY WAS COME FOR THE

32:18 - MARCH WAS 79 YEARS OLD. SHE WAS

32:20 - GOING TO BE UP FRONT CAN FROM

32:21 - THE HIJACKERS. BUT CHAIN MAY

32:22 - HAVE BEEN CONSOLING PEOPLE

32:24 - OFFERING SYMPATHY. THERE ARE

32:25 - SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN

32:26 - PRAYER WORK VERY RELIGIOUS.

32:28 - I THINK EVERYBODY WE THINK

32:30 - EVERYBODY HAD A ROLE HERE IN

32:33 - THE PLANNING. THE EXECUTION

32:35 - THEY.

32:37 - OBVIOUSLY THE 2 MUSCLE

32:38 - HIJACKERS RIGHT BETWEEN P THEM

32:39 - A LITTLE BIT. BUT THEY THEY

32:41 - THEY GOT THEM OUT OF THE WAY

32:43 - RECORDING. YOU CAN HEAR THE

32:44 - CHAOS.

32:45 - INTERESTINGLY, THEY THEY THEY

32:47 - SEEM TO GET TO THE COCKPIT JUST

32:49 - BEFORE 10 O'CLOCK THERE.

32:51 - SO JUST WHAT'S DESCRIBED AS

32:52 - LOUD SHOUTS IN THESE

32:53 - MICROPHONES WORK IN THE

32:54 - COCKPIT. I THINK IT'S

32:55 - REASONABLE CONCLUSION THAT THE

32:57 - THAT THEY WERE THERE AS WE'RE

32:59 - GETTING THERE, THOSE WHETHER

33:01 - WAS TAUGHT THIS OR CAME UP WITH

33:02 - IT ON HIS OWN STARTED THE ROCK,

33:03 - THE PLANE FROM SIDE TO SIDE.

33:05 - YOU CAN SEE ON THE FLOOR ON THE

33:06 - FLIGHT DATA RECORDER, THE

33:07 - PLANE'S GOING. 33 TACKLES.

33:10 - IF YOU'VE EVER GOTTEN UP ON

33:11 - A PLANE, LET'S GO TO THE

33:13 - BATHROOM WHEN THERE'S A LITTLE

33:14 - BIT OF TURBULENCE, YOU KNOW

33:15 - HARD IT IS TO WATCH. IMAGINE

33:16 - THE PILOT, 30 DEGREES, A PILOT

33:19 - WHO DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS

33:19 - DOING THAT MOST MEN THERE ARE

33:23 - SOUNDS OF THINGS CRASH LEFT IN

33:25 - PLACE AND LUGGAGE AND

33:26 - EVERYTHING WAS FALLING OR BUT

33:28 - DRAW COULDN'T DO THAT FOREVER

33:30 - OR THE PLANE WHEN IT GOT TO US

33:32 - DESTINATIONS. WE HAVE THE LEVEL

33:33 - OF OUT.

33:36 - THEY REFORMED AND AND THEY

33:38 - PACKED THE SORT OF THE TALKING

33:39 - IN THE COCKPIT. IT'S IT'S

33:40 - INTERESTING TO ME THAT THAT

33:43 - JUST AFTER 10 O'CLOCK YOU HEARD

33:46 - SHOUTS IN THE COCKPIT IN THE

33:47 - COCKPIT. WE ARE SOMEONE AND

33:49 - IT WHAT'S THE STORMS IN NATIVE

33:51 - ENGLISH SPEAKING VOICE. SO IN

33:53 - THE COCKPIT, IF WE DON'T, WE'LL

33:54 - DIE. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT

33:57 - HERE THAT WE AS AMERICANS HAVE

33:59 - WAYS OF TAKING, YOU KNOW, THIS

34:00 - IS A PROFESSOR OF WAYS OF

34:01 - TAKING HISTORY. GREAT START

34:02 - AND BUILDING MYTH AND LEGEND ON

34:04 - TOP OF IT IN WHERE MANY TIMES

34:06 - HAVE YOU HEARD THE PASSENGERS

34:07 - AND CREW OF FLIGHT? 93 TOOK THE

34:09 - PLANE DOWN, CRASHED A PLANE TO

34:10 - SAVE LIVES. THEY THEY THEY GAVE

34:12 - UP THEIR LIVES TO TO SAY PEOPLE

34:14 - IN THE CAPITAL, THE WHITE

34:15 - HOUSE.

34:18 - THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. BUT I

34:20 - DON'T THINK THAT WAS THEIR

34:21 - INTENTION. IN THE COCKPIT.

34:23 - IF WE DON'T, WE'LL DIE MEANS

34:26 - TO ME. THEY HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE

34:28 - TO DIE. THEY WERE TRYING TO

34:30 - SAVE THE PLANE. THE ONLY WAY

34:31 - THAT COULD HAVE DONE THE ONE

34:32 - SAID THIS AND CALLED THE ONLY

34:33 - WAY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN

34:34 - POSSIBLE IS IF THEY KNEW THAT

34:36 - DONALD GREENE WHO WAS ON BOARD

34:38 - HAD A SMALL PLANE, PILOTS

34:39 - LICENSE, A NEW AVIATION.

34:41 - HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO FLY

34:42 - COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS AND MORE

34:44 - THAN 0 GIROD. BUT MAYBE THERE

34:46 - WERE EVEN A CHANCE. A NEW

34:47 - AVIATION. HE WORKED IN AVIATION

34:49 - AND YOU CAN FLY SMALL PLANES IF

34:50 - THEY COULD GET HIM INTO THE

34:52 - COCKPIT AND ENOUGH TIME ON A

34:54 - CLEAR DAY WITH WITH INSTRUCTION

34:56 - EVERY STEP OF THE WAY FROM AIR

34:57 - TRAFFIC CONTROL. STILL MANY

34:59 - BEEN A LONG SHOT. IF YOU'RE IN

35:00 - THAT PLANE, YOU WANT TO TAKE

35:01 - IT. SO I BELIEVE THAT THEIR

35:03 - INTENTION WAS NOT TO CRASH THE

35:04 - PLANE THERE. THERE. THEIR

35:06 - INTENTION WAS TO SOMEHOW LAND

35:07 - THE PLANE AND IT JUST THE

35:10 - COUNTERATTACK. UNFORTUNATELY,

35:11 - UNBEKNOWNST TO THEM STARTED TOO

35:12 - LATE. IT STARTED WHEN THE WHEN

35:13 - THE PLANE WAS WAS TOO LOW YOU

35:16 - KNOW, DID THEY GET IN THE

35:18 - COCKPIT?

35:19 - WE'LL NEVER KNOW. THE FBI IS

35:21 - NOT WOULD NOT. AND I CONCLUDED

35:23 - THAT THEY DID. THEY DON'T KNOW.

35:25 - THERE'S SOMETHING. AND THE

35:27 - RECORDER, THOSE IF YOU LOOK AT

35:31 - IT JUST AFTER 10 O 2 IN A PLANE

35:33 - CRASH AT 10. 0, 3, SO THIS IS

35:34 - RIGHT. RIGHT IN THE IN THE

35:35 - FINAL MOMENTS. THERE'S A LOUD

35:37 - SHOUT IN ENGLISH. TURN IT UP.

35:40 - IT'S FOLLOWED BY A LOUD SHOUT

35:42 - IN ARABIC ARABIC. PUSH IT DOWN,

35:45 - PULL IT DOWN.

35:47 - TO ME. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A

35:48 - BATTLE FOR CONTROL.

35:50 - MAYBE I'M REACHING, BUT IT'S

35:51 - I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT ELSE WOULD

35:53 - BE AT THAT POINT. THESE ARE

35:55 - VERY LOUD. THEY CERTAINLY WOULD

35:56 - HAVE BEEN THE KNOCK DOWN THE

35:57 - COCKPIT DOOR AND I THINK IT

36:00 - SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, I BELIEVE

36:01 - THEY GOT INTO THE COCKPIT, BUT

36:04 - BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE

36:05 - KNISELY WASN'T A PLANNED ATTACK

36:06 - LIKE THE HIJACKERS. IT THEY

36:08 - COULDN'T GET TO AND SEE THOSE

36:09 - ON THE OUT OF THERE. THEY WERE

36:11 - FIGHTING WITH THEM, BUT THEY

36:12 - COULDN'T GET THEM OUT OF THERE.

36:15 - SHORTLY AFTER 10 '03 THE PLANE

36:17 - AT THIS POINT VIRTUALLY TURNED

36:19 - UPSIDE DOWN, CAME OVER THE

36:20 - HILLSIDE BEHIND YOU, BRADY AND

36:22 - CRASHED AT 10. 0, 3, 11

36:24 - SECONDS. AND IN THE FIELD

36:25 - BEHIND US AT A 40 DEGREE ANGLE

36:29 - AT 563 MILES AN HOUR.

36:31 - WERE THERE ANY EYEWITNESSES ON

36:32 - THE GROUND THAT THAT SAW THE

36:34 - STRUGGLE?

36:34 - >>WELL, I THERE WERE PEOPLE

36:37 - IN THIS AREA WHO SAW THE PLANE

36:39 - IN FLIGHT IN ITS FINAL MOMENTS.

36:42 - ON STOYSTOWN PEOPLE WHO WERE

36:45 - WERE INTERVIEWED BY THE NEW

36:46 - YORK TIMES AND OTHER ON

36:49 - SEPTEMBER 11 AND SEPTEMBER 12,

36:51 - WHO WHO, AGAIN, NOT KNOWING

36:53 - THE STORY YET. TALKED ABOUT

36:55 - THE THE THE PLANE GOING SIDE TO

36:57 - SIDE THE THE WINGS BEING ROCKED

36:59 - AND THEY REALIZE THAT THEY SAW

37:00 - THE BATTLE GOING ON RIGHT

37:02 - THERE. SO IT WAS SO LOW THAT

37:04 - THAT PEOPLE IN THIS AREA NOT

37:06 - HEAVILY POPULATED AREAS AND A

37:07 - MAJOR CITY BUT BUT BUT THEN

37:10 - SEE THE PLANE COMING IN AGAIN.

37:12 - IT WAS GOING WHEN IT CRASHED.

37:13 - A 563 MILES AN HOUR. 2 SOUGHT

37:16 - FOR A SPLIT SECOND. BUT THE

37:17 - WORST THERE WERE AND WORKING

37:20 - ON THE HILL, READY READY WHEN

37:21 - THE CRASH THAT MORNING. THEY

37:23 - WERE TO HAVE RIGHT BEHIND US

37:24 - WHERE THE VISITOR CENTER

37:25 - LEARNING CENTER IS THAT THERE

37:26 - WAS A SCRAPPY ARE VERY LARGE

37:27 - SCRAP YARD.

37:28 - >>THERE ARE 2 GENTLEMEN

37:29 - CUTTING. THEY WERE CUTTING OF

37:30 - LARGE ROLLERS AND THEY SAW THAT

37:32 - THEY IF THEY WERE THE ACTUAL

37:33 - EYEWITNESS. NICE ACTUALLY SAW

37:34 - THE PLANE GO INTO THE GROUND.

37:36 - THERE ARE 2 GENTLEMEN BEHIND US

37:37 - ON THE FARM THAT WERE WORKING,

37:39 - THAT THEY REPORTED THAT THEY

37:40 - SAW THAT THE PLANE WHEN THE

37:41 - GROUND, BUT THEY WERE PAINTING.

37:43 - THEY MAY HAVE HAD THEIR BACKS

37:44 - TO THE THE ACTUAL EVENT.

37:46 - THESE 2 GENTLEMEN ACTUALLY SAW

37:47 - THE PLANE GO IN THE GROUND.

37:48 - SURE. THEY WERE INTERVIEWED BY

37:49 - THE FBI, BUT THEY HAVE NEVER

37:51 - GIVEN ORAL HISTORY. WE HAD.

37:53 - YEAH, WE'RE STILL COLLECTING

37:53 - ORAL HISTORIES

37:55 - >>AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW,

37:56 - THERE'S SOME WHO UNDERSTANDABLY

37:59 - IS IT WAS JUST TOO CLOSE WAS

38:00 - TOO TRAUMATIC AT THAT TIME.

38:03 - DIDN'T WANT TO COME PORTABLE

38:04 - AND TEAR. BUT THE PARK SERVICE

38:06 - FRIENDS OF FLIGHT 93 ERA OR OR

38:08 - SO AND WILL YOU TAKE THAT IF

38:10 - ANYBODY HAS A STORY OF THAT

38:12 - DAY? THE OTHER THING THAT

38:13 - STRUCK ME AND READING HISTORIES

38:15 - AND TALK TO SOME FOLKS WHO

38:17 - LIVED IN THE AREA AGAIN, NOT A

38:18 - HEAVILY POPULATED AREA, BUT BUT

38:20 - PEOPLE LIVE ALL AROUND HERE.

38:22 - >>AND THERE. THEY SEE SOME

38:24 - SITE. SOME HEARD IT. BUT THE

38:27 - THING THAT STRUCK ME, THEY FELT

38:29 - IT. THE THING THAT COMES

38:31 - THROUGH IN THEIR INTERVIEWS

38:31 - IS THEY FELT IT HIT THE GROUND

38:33 - AND IMAGINE A PLANE OF THAT

38:35 - SIZE GOING 563 MILES AN HOUR

38:39 - AND CRASHING AT THAT FULL

38:42 - THROTTLE SPEED INTO THE GROUND.

38:43 - AND THOSE WERE SOME OF THE

38:45 - PEOPLE WHO GOT HERE FIRST DAY.

38:47 - THEY WEREN'T EYEWITNESSES TO

38:49 - THE CRASH, BUT THEY WERE

38:50 - EYEWITNESSES TO THE SCENE.

38:52 - IT TOOK THE FBI REALLY COUPLE

38:54 - OF HOURS TO GET HERE AND STATE

38:56 - POLICE STILL STATE POLICE WERE

38:58 - STILL THEY BEGAN TO QUICKLY BUT

39:00 - NOT QUICKLY. BUT THIS THIS WAS

39:02 - THIS WAS A WELL TRAVELED AREAS.

39:03 - SO IN SOME CASES, THE CITIZENS

39:06 - AND THE LOCAL FIREMEN FROM THE

39:07 - SHANKSVILLE FIRE COMPANY WHERE

39:08 - THAT WERE THE FIRST PEOPLE ON

39:10 - THE SCENE.

39:11 - >>GOING TO BE WILLARD WANDERING

39:12 - AROUND, WHAT WHAT THE HECK IT

39:14 - HAPPENED WHEN IT WAS IN FOR A

39:15 - WHOLE PLANE. YEAH, THEY WERE.

39:17 - THEY WERE LOOKING FOR AND AND

39:19 - JUST FOR BE WATERED. WHAT WHAT

39:21 - HAPPENED AND THE THING THAT

39:23 - THAT HIT ME TO FROM TALKING

39:25 - TO SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE

39:26 - LATER IN THE DAY, AGAIN, THE

39:28 - AIR BEFORE SMARTPHONES SAW SAID

39:30 - THEY THEY WERE AWARE OF

39:32 - WATCHING ON TELEVISION. WHAT

39:33 - HAPPENED IN NEW YORK THAT

39:34 - MORNING. BUT THEN THIS IS A

39:37 - CAT AFTER THAT HAPPENS IN YOUR

39:38 - OWN AREA. MANY OF THEM DID NOT

39:40 - MAKE THE CONNECTION THAT THAT

39:42 - THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING

39:43 - THAT WAS PART OF A PLOT.

39:44 - WHY WOULD IT HAVE BEEN IN

39:45 - SOMERSET WALLY MILLER? THE

39:49 - LOCAL CORONER HAS SO MUCH A

39:50 - PART OF THE STORY TOLD ME IT

39:51 - WASN'T REALLY UNTIL THE FBI

39:52 - GUYS STARTED SHOWING UP AND

39:54 - THEY'RE BLACK VEHICLES AND

39:55 - THEIR CELL PHONES. HE SAID WE

39:56 - WERE ALL SO WELL. HE IS, QUOTE,

39:58 - ALL OF US. SOMERSET COUNTY

39:59 - HICKS SURPRISED AT ALL THE FBI

40:01 - GUYS HAD CELL PHONES BECAUSE

40:02 - EVERYBODY DIDN'T BACK. THEN

40:04 - AND AND THAT'S WHEN HE KNEW IT

40:06 - MIGHT HAVE BEEN PART OF

40:07 - SOMETHING BIGGER. THE OTHER

40:08 - THING, I JUST SORT OF PREY TO

40:10 - WE GET DO A VOLUNTEER IN BASS

40:13 - RIGHT HERE. WE HAD ASKED OFTEN

40:15 - BY YOUNG PEOPLE WHO CAN'T

40:16 - UNDERSTAND WHY THERE ARE SO

40:18 - FEW PHOTOS AND WHY PEOPLE

40:20 - DIDN'T TAKE PHOTOS WITH THEIR

40:23 - CELLPHONES. AND IT SIMPLY IS

40:24 - THAT WAS JUST BEFORE THE END OF

40:26 - WHERE WE HAVE PHONES. WE HAVE

40:29 - CAMERAS IN OUR PHONES. IT WAS

40:30 - RIGHT BEFORE THAT TECHNOLOGY

40:32 - TOTALLY CHANGED SEPTEMBER 11TH

40:34 - WOULD BE REMEMBERED COMPLETELY

40:36 - DIFFERENTLY IF IT HAPPENED NOW

40:37 - IS A NATURAL. THE PHOTOS THAT

40:39 - RATE EVEN FIRST RESPONDERS AND

40:41 - PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THAT WOULD

40:42 - HAVE ONE HELPED US UNDERSTAND.

40:44 - BUT ALSO THAT THEY ADDED TO THE

40:45 - CHAOS. IMAGINE IF YOU HAD

40:46 - TWITTER AND FACEBOOK AND

40:48 - INSTAGRAM BACK THAT WE DID NOT

40:49 - SO IT'S SOMETIMES HARDER WE'VE

40:52 - HAD TO DO WITH THE VISITOR

40:53 - CENTER TO TEACH YOUNG PEOPLE

40:54 - WHO WERE EITHER VERY YOUNG OR

40:56 - WEREN'T BORN YET, WHO WHO DON'T

40:58 - UNDERSTAND THAT CONTEXT, IT

40:59 - SEEMS THEM SOLD. SO SURREAL.

41:02 - THE ONE THAT HAD A THOSE

41:04 - PHOTOS. BUT BUT WE DID AND A

41:06 - COUPLE PEOPLE THAT CAN YOU TALK

41:08 - ABOUT THE IMPACT INTO THAT

41:09 - HEAD? WELL.

41:10 - >>I'VE HAD AT LEAST 3 PEOPLE

41:11 - HAVE COME UP TO ME SINCE THEN

41:12 - AND TALK ABOUT THEY FELT IT.

41:14 - AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WAS

41:15 - A A VERY LARGE HEDWALL. IT'S

41:17 - BEEN RECLAIMED, BUT THEY HIT

41:19 - THAT WALL. THAT WAS NOT RECLAIM

41:20 - STRIP. THAT WAS HARD WAS IT

41:22 - WAS NATURAL. THAT'S WHAT'S AND

41:23 - STUFF. AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE

41:25 - MAKE LANES TO ME THAT, YOU

41:27 - KNOW, WHEN IT HIT THE

41:27 - SANDSTONE, IT RULE MY WELL.

41:29 - IT CRACKED MY FOUNDATION AND

41:30 - THAT'S HOW AND THOMPSON THAT

41:32 - HELP PEOPLE.

41:33 - >>REMEMBER, THEY REMEMBER THAT

41:34 - JOE, THE KIDS AT THE SCHOOL,

41:36 - REMEMBER THAT ALL THE WINDOWS

41:37 - SHATTERED.

41:38 - >>AND THAT SCHOOLS A GOOD MILE

41:40 - MILE HALF AWAY.

41:42 - >>CAN WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE

41:43 - CHALLENGES OF THE SITE COMING

41:45 - FROM A CRIME SCENE TO A

41:47 - MEMORIAL NOW TO A NATIONAL

41:48 - PARK.

41:49 - >>YEAH, THE CRIME SCENE.

41:50 - I MEAN, THE THE THE

41:51 - INVESTIGATION ONLY LASTED ABOUT

41:53 - 10 TO 11 DAYS AND THEN THEY

41:55 - WERE OFF SITE. BUT THEN THE

41:56 - CORNER KEPT THE THE SAFE IN

41:57 - HIS POSITION AS A CRIME SCENE

41:59 - FOR A NUMBER YEARS. SO WE HAD

42:00 - THE AREA FENCE AND THERE WAS

42:01 - CONCERN ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WERE

42:03 - COMING TO DO THINGS THAT THEY

42:04 - SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS SITE IS

42:06 - A RECLAIMED STRIP MINED THAT

42:08 - THROWS EVERYTHING OFF THE

42:09 - BOOKS. THIS IS NOT PITTSBURGH.

42:10 - THIS IS NOT A RESIDENTIAL LOT.

42:12 - THERE ARE NO SOULS HERE.

42:13 - THE GROW ANYTHING THAT ARE

42:14 - WORTH ANYTHING WE DO HAVE

42:16 - GROWTH HERE NOW. SO YOU HAVE A

42:18 - RECLAIMED STRIP MINE YET A

42:19 - NUMBER OF LANDOWNERS WHO WERE

42:21 - INVOLVED WITH YOU KNOW, PUTTING

42:24 - THE THE PARCELS TOGETHER.

42:25 - I THINK OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE

42:27 - IS THAT IT'S HARD TO GROW

42:28 - ANYTHING HERE. YOU CAN'T TREAT

42:30 - ANYTHING HERE

42:32 - YOU YOU GET YOUR GETTING EFFECT

42:34 - HERE RIGHT NOW WHEN WIND BLOWS

42:35 - ALL THE TIME, WE JUST RECENTLY

42:37 - PLANTED SOME OF THOSE TALL

42:38 - TREES AND THAT THE WIND WAS

42:39 - BLOWING THEM OVER. SO THAT'S

42:41 - PART OF THE PROBLEM. BUT THAT'S

42:42 - ALSO PART OF THE BEAUTY OF THIS

42:44 - SITE BECAUSE THE SAY IS IN A

42:45 - STATE OF RECLAMATION IS IN THE

42:47 - STATE OF HEALING. THAT'S WHAT

42:48 - THE ARCHITECT WANT. IT.

42:50 - HE HE HE WAS HEARING. SO LET US

42:53 - SELECTED FOR THIS DESIGN

42:54 - BECAUSE HE MAINTAINED THIS OPEN

42:56 - FIELD. WE TALKED TO FAMILY

42:57 - MEMBERS. THEY REMEMBER COMING

42:59 - HERE. THEY REMEMBER THE WIN.

43:01 - REMEMBER THIS OPEN FIELD AND

43:03 - THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN MAINTAINED

43:04 - HERE. WE'RE ON THE FRINGES,

43:06 - EVERYTHING THAT'S HERE POINTS

43:07 - TO THE CRASH SITE. AND THAT'S

43:09 - WHAT YOU WANT. AND THEY IT

43:12 - INTERESTING POINT THAT THIS

43:13 - SAFE THAT WE'RE NOW.

43:15 - >>THE OVERLOOK, WHICH WAS

43:16 - ACTUALLY THE PLACE FOR THE

43:17 - FAMILY MEMBERS. FIRST VIEW THE

43:19 - CRASH SITE ON THOSE DAYS AFTER

43:21 - THE CRASH. NUMBER 12 34 AND

43:23 - THOSE DAYS IT WAS STILL A CRIME

43:25 - SCENE. THEY COULDN'T GO DOWN

43:26 - THERE SO THAT THEY THEY CAME

43:28 - HERE AND THIS IS WHERE I'VE

43:30 - SEEN THE PHOTOS OF THOSE TABLES

43:31 - FOR PEOPLE START PEOPLE

43:32 - MOMENTOUS. ALI MOMENTOS TODAY.

43:35 - BUT THAT WAS WHERE THE

43:35 - TRADITION STARTED RIGHT RIGHT

43:37 - UP HERE. AND THIS WAS ALSO

43:38 - PEOPLE MAY RECOGNIZE THIS IS

43:39 - ONE OF THE 3 SITES, THE

43:41 - TEMPORARY MEMORIAL AND THE 10

43:42 - YEARS BEFORE THE FIRST OF THE

43:44 - MORE IT WAS OPEN AND AND IN

43:46 - 2011, SO ALL OF SHARED THIS A

43:50 - RELATIONSHIP IN THE HISTORY.

43:51 - AND I THOUGHT THE AND THE

43:53 - ARCHITECT, PAUL MART MURDOCH

43:54 - DID.

43:55 - I LOVE HEARTACHE STICKS TO THAT

43:57 - WORKED AND IT DID A FABULOUS

43:59 - JOB OF MAKING THIS.

44:01 - A TRIBUTE TO THE RURAL FIELD IN

44:04 - SOMERSET COUNTY WHERE THE PLANE

44:05 - CRASHED. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A

44:07 - LITTLE BIT OF BUILDING OUT

44:07 - HERE. THERE HAS TO BE SOME

44:09 - ORGANIZATION. I THINK IS

44:11 - PROPER. IT'S AN OVERNIGHT.

44:12 - IT'S NOT WHAT YOU EXPECT IN IN

44:14 - WASHINGTON, D.C., OR NEW YORK

44:15 - CITY. SOME PEOPLE DO COMMON

44:17 - AND THEY'RE DISAPPOINTED.

44:17 - THEY SAY WHERE'S THE MONUMENT

44:19 - IN WANT THAT HE WANTED TO BE

44:20 - THE FIELD WHERE THE PLANE

44:21 - CRASHED AND MOST OF THIS FIELD

44:23 - LOOKS THE WAY IT DID ON

44:24 - SEPTEMBER 10TH OR A SEPTEMBER

44:26 - 11TH AT 9 O'CLOCK IN THE

44:28 - MORNING. THAT'S PART OF THAT'S

44:30 - PART OF THE MAGIC OF THIS

44:31 - PLACE. AND AND AS IT CONTINUES

44:33 - TO GROW AND URBAN TREES

44:34 - PLANTED, IT WILL CONTINUE TO

44:35 - MATURE OVER THE YEARS.

44:36 - >>I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I

44:37 - HAVE BEEN ON A NUMBER WITH

44:39 - PEOPLE TO COME DOWN AND HERE

44:40 - FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND THEN

44:41 - WHEN THEY GET THERE, THEY'RE

44:42 - LIKE FIRST THING. OH, MY WORD.

44:44 - THIS IS LAURA. THIS IS HUGE.

44:45 - AND NOW PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO

44:47 - GRASP WHAT? BUT THEN ONCE THEY

44:48 - STAND AND THEY STAND FOR ABOUT

44:50 - 30 SECONDS OR 45 SECONDS DOWN

44:51 - AT THE WALL AND THE WIND, IT'S

44:53 - A FACE. THEY STOP. AND THEY

44:54 - JUST SAY THIS IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

44:57 - THIS IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE.

44:57 - IT'S AN OPEN WAR. AND WE YOU

44:59 - KNOW, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE

45:00 - MORE AND MORE TRIVIA RISE, MORE

45:02 - AND MORE EFFORTS THAT TO COME

45:03 - TO THE SITE AND PAY TRIBUTE.

45:05 - AND THAT'S PART OF THIS

45:05 - GRASSROOTS EFFORT TO THIS IS A

45:07 - GRASSROOTS MEMORIAL.

45:08 - >>WASN'T PUSHED, YOU KNOW,

45:10 - CONGRESS ESTABLISHES A NATIONAL

45:11 - MORE LOOK. THERE ARE A NUMBER

45:12 - OF GROUPS THAT PUSH THAT UP.

45:14 - AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS HERE

45:15 - ALL THE TIME. WE HAVE

45:16 - GRASSROOTS VOLUNTEER EFFORTS.

45:18 - WE HAVE. PRETTY POLLEN TEARS

45:19 - LIKE COME HERE ALL THE TIME.

45:21 - PEOPLE COME HERE AND THEY WANT

45:22 - TO VOLUNTEER AND WANT TO

45:23 - CONTRIBUTE AND THEY WANT TO

45:24 - TALK ABOUT THIS SITE AND THAT'S

45:25 - WHAT IS REALLY ALL ABOUT.

45:26 - IT'S NOT ABOUT ALL OF US HERE.

45:28 - IT'S ABOUT ALL THE PUBLIC

45:29 - COMING HERE AND PAYING TRIBUTE.

45:30 - >>IT WAS THE SAFE THAT WAS AND

45:32 - PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS STUNNED BY

45:34 - THIS. WHEN I SAY THAT IS SUCH A

45:35 - HEART TUGGING A STORY OF

45:37 - COURAGE AND AMERICAN

45:38 - PATRIOTISM. AND THIS WAS THE

45:39 - HARDEST MEMORIAL

45:40 - TO FUND AND PEOPLE ASK WHY.

45:44 - I THINK WHEN THE REASONS IS

45:45 - MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO PARIS IN

45:47 - THE WORLD TRADE CENTER WERE

45:50 - FROM THE NEW YORK AREA. IT WAS

45:52 - IT WAS HOME FOR THE FAMILIES

45:54 - AND THE PEOPLE IN AN DEPENDING

45:55 - ON WHERE THEY'RE FROM OR LIVED

45:56 - IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA OR D C

45:58 - NOBODY FROM ANYWHERE NEAR

45:59 - SOMERSET COUNTY AND I'D HEAR

46:02 - THE PLANE TOOK OFF IN NEWARK

46:03 - WAS GOING TO. SO YOU HAD SAID

46:06 - IS A SMALLER GROUP OF FAMILIES

46:08 - WHO WERE THERE WERE 40 PEOPLE

46:10 - ON BOARD THIS FLIGHT. SEE IT

46:11 - 40 FAMILIES FROM. WELL ACROSS

46:13 - THE COUNTRY ACROSS THE WORLD,

46:15 - FROM JAPAN TO GERMANY HAD TO,

46:18 - FIRST OF ALL, COME TOGETHER AND

46:19 - BOND TOGETHER AS A GROUP.

46:21 - IRONICALLY, SOMERSET COUNTY,

46:23 - GREAT PART OF THIS STORY LED

46:24 - BY THE LOCAL CORONER, WALLY

46:25 - MILLER, WHO WAS LOCAL FUNERAL

46:27 - DIRECTOR WHO TOLD THEM THAT

46:29 - THEY SHOULD ORGANIZE A AND AND

46:31 - THEY DIDN'T. THEY PAY HOMAGE

46:33 - THE WALL IN HIS TO THIS DAY.

46:35 - IT WAS A START. A LOT OF PEOPLE

46:38 - COME TO AND SAY, WHERE WAS I?

46:40 - WHEN I FIRST CAME, WE HAVE TO

46:41 - SAY DEPENDING ON WHICH WHICH

46:43 - TEMPORARY MEMORIAL YOU ARE.

46:45 - YOU ARE AT. THEY DID GET

46:46 - ENOUGH. THERE WASN'T ENOUGH

46:47 - MONEY TO PALMER DUCKS. FOR MORE

46:50 - ON THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY, WHICH

46:51 - HAD BEEN THE BUT IT WAS ENOUGH

46:53 - TO OPEN THE ORIGINAL PART OF

46:54 - THE MEMORIAL DOWN THERE.

46:55 - THE WALKWAYS AND THE WALL OF

46:57 - NAMES, WHICH MARKS THE FLIGHT

46:58 - PATH OPEN THAT FOR THE FAMILIES

47:01 - AND THEN JUST LAST YEAR IN 2014

47:03 - WERE ABLE TO OPEN THE VISITOR

47:04 - CENTER AND THE LEARNING CENTER,

47:05 - WHICH IT FOR PEOPLE, VIEWER

47:08 - VIEWERS, IF YOU IF YOU WERE

47:09 - HERE BEFORE 2014, YOU HAVEN'T

47:12 - REALLY BEEN THE MEMORIAL

47:13 - BECAUSE THIS AS THE EDUCATIONAL

47:15 - ASPECT WE NEVER HAD BEFORE.

47:17 - IT WAS MOVING. BUT UNLESS YOU

47:18 - WERE HERE AND ONE OF THE TIMES

47:20 - WHEN IT WAS A RANGER TALKING

47:21 - REALLY BEEN GET THE STORY, WE

47:22 - HAD NO WAY TO DO THAT. NOW

47:24 - THERE ARE. THERE'S JUST A

47:25 - FANTASTIC, SOLEMN EDUCATIONAL

47:29 - BASIN MUSEUM IN THERE THAT THAT

47:31 - THAT THAT TELLS A STORY TO GET

47:32 - TO EXPERIENCE THAT PART OF THE

47:33 - EDUCATIONAL PROCESS AND STILL

47:35 - WALK DOWN NEAR THE CRASH SITE

47:36 - TO THE WALL OF NAMES. SO IT'S A

47:38 - IT'S A IT'S IT'S REALLY COME TO

47:40 - COME FULL CIRCLE. I THINK, TOO,

47:42 - YOU KNOW, A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

47:44 - AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT

47:45 - COME THAT.

47:46 - >>THERE ARE SO KEEN ON FEDERAL

47:47 - FUNDING. I HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE

47:48 - ALL THE TIME. 45 MILLION

47:50 - DOLLARS OF THE 60 MILLION USED

47:51 - TO RAISE FOR CONSTRUCTION HERE

47:53 - WAS RAISED THROUGH PRIVATE

47:54 - DONATIONS. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A

47:56 - LARGE SUM. SO OTHER A LOT OF

47:57 - PEOPLE COME HERE. THEY WANT

47:58 - TO SEE THEY CONTRIBUTE AND THEY

47:59 - CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE.

48:01 - I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

48:02 - THAT ANY EXHIBIT THAT COMMENTS

48:04 - INTO BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT

48:05 - OF WIND, A LOT OF DEBATE AND

48:07 - THE PEOPLE THAT THEY THAT PUT

48:08 - THAT TOGETHER. I MEAN, AND IT

48:10 - WAS THE ONE F ONE, IF AND

48:12 - WHAT'S CHANGED AND

48:14 - QUITE FRANKLY, THAT THE FOLKS

48:15 - AT DESIGNED EXHIBIT COULDN'T

48:16 - GET TO THAT ANSWER. SO THAT'S

48:18 - WHY WE HAVE ALL THE PEOPLE LOST

48:20 - ON 9.11, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT'S

48:22 - CHANGED SINCE 9.11, BECAUSE

48:24 - JUST YESTERDAY, IT'S STILL AN

48:26 - ONGOING STORY. WHAT I THINK

48:28 - THAT YOU'LL FIND OUT, YOU KNOW,

48:29 - YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING

48:31 - TO SEE IT AGAIN TONIGHT.

48:32 - PARIS WAS ATTACKED SEVERAL

48:33 - MONTHS AGO AND THEY WERE

48:34 - RESILIENT. THEY SAID THEY'RE

48:35 - NOT TAKING US DOWN. THIS IS

48:37 - WORK. START STARTED RIGHT HERE

48:38 - BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE LOST

48:40 - THEIR LIVES. BUT THIS IS WHERE

48:41 - IT STARTED. AND YOU SEE THAT

48:42 - TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

48:44 - >>CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE BALANCE

48:46 - THAT YOU HAVE TO STRIKE A SITE

48:48 - LIKE THIS BETWEEN

48:49 - MEMORIALIZATION AND EDUCATION?

48:51 - BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE MAYBE

48:53 - NEVER KNEW. GETTYSBURG. AS A

48:55 - BATTLEFIELD STARTED AS A

48:56 - MEMORIAL. NOW IT'S A IT'S A

48:58 - VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE.

48:59 - CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW YOU KEEP

49:00 - THAT BALANCE? WELL, I THINK,

49:01 - YOU KNOW, GAMES WHERE THAT'S

49:02 - A GOOD IN GETTYSBURG WAS

49:04 - ESTABLISHED AND THEY ALWAYS

49:04 - HAD IS.

49:07 - >>BECAUSE THEY WERE GRAHAM,

49:08 - WEST POINT STUDENTS TO STUDY

49:09 - THE BATTLE AND GET THE

49:11 - >>AND

49:11 - UNDERSTAND THAT HERE ARE THE

49:13 - BALANCES IS KEY BECAUSE

49:16 - WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THEIR

49:17 - HEROIC ACTIONS. BUT THERE'S

49:18 - STILL A LOT OF THE STORY THAT

49:20 - HAS NOT BEEN TOLD AND IT WILL

49:21 - BE ANOTHER 20 OR 25 YEARS

49:24 - BECAUSE THEN FAMILY MEMBERS

49:25 - WILL HAVE TO HAVE PASSED ON.

49:27 - I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE WAY

49:28 - THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN. WE GET

49:30 - WE GET FLAK ALL THE TIME ABOUT

49:32 - HAVING 4 TEARS.

49:33 - LISTED ON THE PLANE. THAT'S ALL

49:35 - WE DO. WE DON'T TALK ABOUT

49:36 - THEIR BACKGROUND. WE DON'T TALK

49:37 - ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE. WE HAVE

49:38 - THEIR NAMES AND THEIR HOMETOWNS

49:40 - AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WHY DO WE

49:42 - HAVE THAT? THERE'S JUST LIKE

49:43 - THE HOLOCAUST. SOMEBODY DID

49:44 - THAT. SOMEBODY DID IT. THE

49:46 - THESE TERRORISTS DID. SO WE

49:48 - WE FELL. WE FELT VERY STRONGLY

49:50 - ABOUT THAT.

49:50 - >>I I EXPECTED IT, BUT I GOT

49:53 - SOME FLAK FOR THE BOOK FOR

49:55 - WRITING AS MUCH AS I DID ABOUT

49:56 - THE TERRORISTS. BUT I THINK

49:58 - ONE, IT WAS A BOOK IS A

49:59 - HISTORY. IT'S PART OF THEY

50:02 - WERE.

50:03 - THEY PULLED OFF THE PLOT, BUT

50:05 - ALSO I DON'T THINK YOU CAN

50:07 - APPRECIATE. THE REAL STORY

50:09 - HERE, WHICH IS THE COURAGE AND

50:11 - BRAVERY AND THE PASADENA

50:13 - TERMINATION, THE PASSION AND

50:14 - CREW, UNLESS, YOU KNOW HOW

50:16 - METICULOUSLY AL QAEDA PLAN TO

50:19 - DO THIS. I MEAN, WHO WAS

50:21 - PROPOSING 96?

50:23 - IT WAS ENDORSED BY BEEN LOT

50:25 - IN. 99. SO THAT'S 2 YEARS OF

50:28 - INTENSE PLANNING AND AND THESE

50:31 - POOR PEOPLE HAD 30 MINUTES

50:33 - WITH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD NO

50:35 - IDEA THIS WAS KIND OF HAPPENED

50:36 - WHEN THEY GET ON ON THE PLANE.

50:38 - YOU CAN APPRECIATE THEIR STORY

50:40 - UNLESS YOU KNOW THE HIJACKERS,

50:42 - RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S WHY I WAS

50:43 - WAS ADAM WAS DOING. BUT BUT I

50:45 - ALSO DO THINK IT IS DIFFERENT

50:47 - HERE. THEY'RE SENSITIVE TO BE

50:48 - NOT JUST WITH FAMILY MEMBERS,

50:50 - BUT JUST WITH PEOPLE AND

50:51 - MEMBERS THAT DAY. IT'S STILL

50:53 - SO CURRENT. IT'S NOT LIKE GOING

50:55 - TO GETTYSBURG OR VALLEY FORGE

50:58 - OR ANYTHING OR ARE NOW EVEN

51:00 - WORLD WAR. 2 MEMORIAL IS WHERE

51:01 - MOST OF THE VETERANS ARE.

51:03 - >>HOWEVER, A VERY OLD AND MOST

51:04 - OF US DID NOT EXPERIENCE IT.

51:06 - YOU KNOW, I WILL NEVER I COULD

51:07 - NEVER VIEW PEARL HARBOR THE WAY

51:09 - MY PARENTS DID.

51:11 - I I WANT TO START A VISIT THERE

51:12 - WHEN THEY READ A LOT ABOUT IT.

51:13 - BUT I CAN EVER COMPREHEND THE

51:15 - TERROR OF THAT DAY AND PEOPLE

51:17 - WHO ARE BORN FROM WATCHING THE

51:19 - SHOW UP EARLY AFTER 9/11/2001,

51:21 - WE CAN NEVER COMPREHEND WHAT

51:23 - WHAT WE FELT. IT'S SO STILL.

51:25 - SO RON SENSITIVE, I THINK

51:27 - THAT'S WITH THE PARK SERVICE'S

51:28 - REALLY HAD TO DEAL WITH.

51:29 - AND I THINK DONE A GREAT JOB OF

51:31 - BALANCING THAT YOU'RE NEVER

51:32 - GOING TO PLEASE EVERYBODY.

51:35 - IT IS ON MAURY ALWAYS WILL BE.

51:37 - BUT IT IS TIME TO TELL THE

51:38 - HISTORY, TOO. AND THE AND AND

51:40 - PART OF THIS. IT IS DESIGNED

51:43 - TO TELL THE HISTORY FOR THOSE

51:45 - PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T BORN YET

51:46 - OVER TOO YOUNG TO REMEMBER.

51:48 - WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF.

51:50 - YOU KNOW IT, IF YOU'RE IN

51:51 - COLLEGE NOW. YOU KNOW YOU YOU

51:54 - WERE BORN, BUT YOU WERE SO

51:55 - YOUNG. YOU DON'T REMEMBER YOU.

51:57 - A GREW UP READING THE STORIES.

51:58 - BUT YOU REMEMBER THAT DAY.

51:59 - SO PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY FROM

52:00 - NOW ON WON'T WON'T HAVE THAT

52:02 - MEMORY. SO THE HISTORY PART OF

52:03 - IT IS IS IS I THINK VERY

52:05 - IMPORTANT. AND I THINK YOU'RE

52:06 - YOU SEE MORE AND MORE OF THAT

52:08 - AS TIME GOES ON. AND NOW WE

52:09 - HAVE THE RESOURCES SAYS PLACES

52:11 - ONLY BEEN OPEN. THE VISITOR

52:13 - CENTER HAS ONLY BEEN OPEN FOR A

52:14 - YEAR. SO MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT

52:16 - EVEN EXPERIENCED THAT. AND I

52:17 - THINK, TOO, THAT THIS WILL

52:18 - CONTINUE TO DEVELOP HERE TO THE

52:20 - LEARNING CENTERS PLACE TO BE.

52:22 - >>IT IS THE HUB AND WE'RE GOING

52:23 - TO TALK ABOUT LEADERSHIP

52:24 - PROGRAM NEARS END AND

52:26 - LEADERSHIP IN THAT 30 MINUTES.

52:27 - YOU KNOW, HOW DID THEY MAKE

52:28 - THIS? I MEAN, THAT'S LET'S KEEP

52:30 - IT. THAT'S A THAT'S A HEAVY

52:31 - LIFT. IT NEEDS TO BE DONE

52:32 - APPROPRIATELY. WE LEAVE.

52:34 - YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF

52:35 - EFFORTS HERE LIKE THE

52:35 - REFORESTATION EFFORT WE PLANTED

52:37 - PROBABLY OVER 110 ACRES.

52:39 - A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS. WELL, WE

52:40 - DID IT BECAUSE WE HAD GOOD

52:42 - LEADERS WHO KNEW HOW TO PLANT

52:43 - TREES AND THE CONVERSATION.

52:45 - EVERYBODY COMING IN. YOU GUYS

52:46 - STICK IN. SEEDLINGS IN THE

52:47 - GROUND. THEY'RE COMING TO PAY

52:48 - RESPECT. BUT THE GOOD LEADERS

52:50 - AT THE START OF THAT THAT

52:51 - LEADERSHIP PROGRAM WILL DEVELOP

52:53 - AND WE'RE GOING TO INVOLVE THE

52:54 - RIGHT PEOPLE TO GET THAT DONE.

52:55 - SO IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE FOUND

52:58 - OUT AS IT PLAYS IN AND THE

53:00 - VISITOR

53:00 - CENTER LEARN.

53:01 - >>THERE WE NEVER KNOW WILL

53:03 - NEVER KNOW HOW MANY OF THE

53:04 - PASSENGERS AND CREW WERE YOU

53:06 - KNOW, 3 OF THE PEOPLE WHO CAUSE

53:08 - TALK BUT NEVER TAKE BACK.

53:09 - THE PLANES THAT WERE REALLY

53:10 - CERTAINLY WERE INVOLVED BUT

53:12 - THERE WERE THERE WERE MULTIPLE

53:13 - AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR THE

53:15 - BEGINNING, SO MUCH FOCUS WAS ON

53:16 - TODD BEAMER BECAUSE THAT WAS

53:18 - THE FIRST STORY THAT WAS TOLD

53:20 - AND WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME WHY THAT

53:23 - WHY THAT IMPRESSION WHEN THAT

53:25 - HAPPENED

53:26 - >>THE

53:28 - >>AND AT LEAST WHO CALLED

53:30 - CALLED THEIR WIVES. BIEBER DID

53:32 - PLACE A CALL TO HIS HOUSE, BUT

53:33 - IT WAS IT CUT OFF IN A FEW

53:35 - SECONDS WHETHER HE THOUGHT

53:36 - BETTER OF IT OR JUST CALLED

53:37 - US. AND IT'S RIGHT ON THAT.

53:39 - HE THEN CALLED HORIZON OPERATOR

53:40 - BECAUSE THEY HAD A NUMBER OF

53:43 - THE PRESIDENT OFFERING THEIR

53:44 - CHICAGO. SO HE SPOKE TO SOMEONE

53:46 - WHO WASN'T A FAMILY MEMBER.

53:47 - AND SHE, THOUGH TRAUMATIZED

53:49 - WAS ABLE TO TELL THAT STORY

53:50 - TO THE MEDIA THE NEXT DAY.

53:52 - SO THAT'S THE FIRST STORY THAT

53:53 - GOT OUT. AND WHAT A STORY IT

53:54 - WAS. THAT WAS THE FIRST INKLING

53:56 - WE HAD AS TO WHY THIS IS LIKE

53:58 - WHY DID CRASH IN SOMERSET

54:00 - COUNTY? THAT WAS THE FIRST

54:01 - THING WAS TO THE PUBLIC.

54:02 - THE TODD BEAMER STORY THAT

54:04 - THERE THAT THAT PEOPLE ON BOARD

54:06 - AMERICANS HAVE FOUGHT BACK.

54:07 - HE SAID, LET'S ROLL.

54:08 - >>AND IT. BUT I THINK IT IT.

54:12 - THEY TOOK CREDIT AWAY. BUT

54:13 - OTHER PEOPLE, TODD BEAMER IS

54:15 - VERY MUCH A HERO. BUT THERE ARE

54:16 - MANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE

54:18 - THERE'S THERE'S A SINGULAR HERO

54:19 - TO THIS STORY OR A SINGULAR

54:21 - LEADER. AND I HAD GOOD

54:22 - LEADERSHIP.

54:23 - >>SO SO WE DO THAT. AND YOU CAN

54:25 - YOU CAN LOOK AT IT, JUST

54:26 - PEOPLE'S BACKGROUNDS AND SEE

54:28 - PROBABLY THE ROLES THEY WOULD

54:29 - HAVE PLAYED. EVERYBODY HAS A

54:31 - CERTAIN STRENGTH. THEY PROBABLY

54:32 - ALL WENT TO THEIR STRENGTHS AT

54:33 - THAT POINT. AGAIN, THEY WERE

54:34 - THERE ARE CRISIS. THERE WERE 2

54:36 - AND ONLY COUPLE TO A CRISIS

54:37 - COUNSELORS ON BOARD. THEY WERE

54:38 - TOUGH. BUT FROM FIGHTING THE

54:40 - HIJACKERS, I'M SURE. BUT THEY

54:41 - WERE PROBABLY CALMING PEOPLE

54:43 - DOWN IN THE BACK DOOR,

54:44 - TERRIFIED PEOPLE HERE THEY ARE.

54:46 - 44 PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY PEOPLE

54:48 - WHO WERE SAYING WE SHOULDN'T

54:49 - DO. THIS ARE PROBABLY PEOPLE

54:50 - WHO LAND. YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S

54:52 - WHAT THE HIJACKERS WANTED THEM

54:54 - TO THINK. THEY SAID WE'RE GOING

54:55 - BACK TO THE AIRPORT THEY THEY

54:58 - THEY HAD THE FAKE BOMB. THEY

54:59 - WERE TRYING TO CONTROL THEM SO

55:00 - THEY WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING.

55:01 - THIS WAS THE GROUP AGAIN

55:03 - BECAUSE OF TIMING BECAUSE THE

55:04 - INFORMATION THEY HAD THAT THAT

55:06 - SAID ENOUGH, WE'RE NOT WE'RE

55:07 - NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND LET

55:08 - YOU DECIDE OUR FATE. WE'RE

55:09 - GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO ROLL IN

55:10 - SIGNING OUR FATE. I THINK THE

55:12 - THING THAT STRIKES ME ABOUT

55:13 - LEADERSHIP IS ESTHER HYMAN WAS

55:14 - ON THE PHONE WITH HER AND HER

55:16 - STEPDAUGHTER.

55:18 - >>RIGHT TO THE END. AND I MEAN,

55:21 - LITERALLY, THEY TALK THE WHOLE

55:22 - TIME. BUT

55:24 - HONOR SAID I GOT TO GO, MOM,

55:26 - THEY'RE TAKING. AND SHE SAID.

55:30 - SO THERE'S A LEADERSHIP.

55:32 - HE ENDED THE GUYS THAT WERE

55:33 - TAKING THE PLANE, BUT SHE

55:34 - SUPPORTED IT, TOO. SO EVERYONE

55:36 - ON THAT PLANE SUPPORTED THAT.

55:37 - THAT'S ALWAYS ONE OF THOSE CALL

55:39 - SAID EVERYBODY IS RUNNING THE

55:40 - FIRST CRASH.

55:41 - >>SO IT WAS A MASS OF PEOPLE

55:43 - WHETHER WAS ACTUALLY EVERYBODY,

55:45 - YOU KNOW, BUT A MASS OF PEOPLE

55:46 - WAS.

55:47 - >>WAS WAS MOVING ON ON THAT

55:49 - FLIGHT, WHICH I THINK WAS, YOU

55:50 - KNOW, WOULD WOULD BE WOULD BE

55:52 - HUMAN NATURE THAT THE L A THE

55:53 - STUFF WE DON'T KNOW. WE KNOW

55:55 - THERE ARE SOME FACTS. WE KNOW

55:57 - UP UNTIL 9.57. AGAIN, THE PLANE

55:59 - CRASH AT 10. 0, 3 BECAUSE OF

56:00 - THE PHONE CALLS. THE PHONE

56:01 - CALLS STOPPED AT THAT POINT.

56:03 - SO THEN WE JUST HAVE THE CHAOS

56:05 - OF FLIGHT DATA RECORDER AND

56:07 - TRYING TO PIECE SOME OF THE

56:08 - EVIDENCE TOGETHER. PART OF IT,

56:10 - YOU KNOW, AS WITH ALWAYS TRUST,

56:11 - STILL WITH GETTYSBURG AND

56:13 - REVOLUTIONARY MORE, THERE'S A

56:14 - MYSTERY TO HISTORY THAT KEEPS

56:15 - US COMING BACK THAT WE THAT

56:16 - WE WILL NEVER KNOW AS WITH THE

56:19 - SOLDIERS UNITED PICKETT'S

56:20 - CHARGE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE

56:22 - SECRETS DETAILS DIED WITH THE

56:25 - HEROES IN THE IN THE BACK TO

56:28 - THAT. WE WANT TO KNOW, BUT BUT

56:29 - I THINK WE KNOW ENOUGH TO PIECE

56:32 - THE STORY TOGETHER AND

56:33 - HOPEFULLY WE CAN WE CAN WITH

56:35 - SOME PEOPLE FROM COME FOR THE

56:36 - ORAL HISTORIES. A LOT OF THAT

56:37 - WOULD BE AFTER THE FACT.

56:39 - BUT IT STILL WOULD COMPLETE THE

56:41 - STORY. I THINK SO. WE'RE HOPING

56:42 - MORE PEOPLE COME FORWARD AND

56:43 - VOLUNTEER TO DO THAT. RIGHT

56:45 - NOW. THE WAR ON TERROR IS

56:47 - AMERICA'S LONGEST WAR HAS BEEN

56:48 - FOUGHT ON ALMOST EVERY

56:49 - CONTINENT.

56:50 - >>IN 100 YEARS FROM NOW, IF YOU

56:51 - CAN LOOK INTO THE FUTURE, HOW

56:53 - DO YOU THINK PEOPLE WILL VIEW

56:54 - THIS PLACE IN THIS EVENT?

56:56 - I THINK THEY VIEW THIS IS THE

56:57 - START.

56:58 - >>AND THE AND THE WAR

57:00 - ON TERROR. THIS IS WHERE THEY

57:01 - STARTED TO TAKE IT BACK, THAT

57:03 - THEY WERE UNSUCCESSFUL. BUT

57:04 - THEY STARTED

57:07 - >>15 YEARS FROM 15 YEARS AFTER

57:09 - THE FACT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT

57:10 - DIFFERENTLY BUT I THINK THAT,

57:12 - YOU KNOW,

57:14 - A FEW DAYS AFTER 9.11, 2001

57:16 - PEOPLE ARE THE FIRST BOUT OF

57:18 - THE WAR ON TERROR. I THINK IT'S

57:20 - GOING TO BE BIGGER AS THINGS GO

57:23 - ON IN THE THOUGH THE WORLD DID

57:25 - CHANGE THAT DAY. IT'S ALL GOING

57:27 - TO POINT BACK TO THE SEPTEMBER

57:28 - 11TH ATTACKS AND THIS WAS THE

57:31 - FIRST ONE WHERE WE FOUGHT BACK.

57:34 - AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THESE

57:35 - PEOPLE ARE HEROES THAT THEY'RE

57:37 - GOING TO BE REMEMBERED AS

57:38 - HEROES AND MAYBE EVEN MORE AS

57:41 - TIME GOES ON, PEOPLE CAN DO TO

57:42 - COME HERE AS THEY CONTINUE

57:44 - GETTYSBURG WHEN THE FIRST

57:46 - GENERATION IS GONE, WHEN

57:47 - THEY'RE JUST WE'RE JUST PASSING

57:48 - DOWN THE STORIES WHEN THERE'S

57:49 - NO ONE WHO CAN TELL THEM WHAT

57:51 - IT WAS LIKE ON THAT DAY, THAT

57:53 - QUESTION WILL BE ABLE TO BE

57:54 - ASKED ANY MORE SOME POINT.

57:56 - IT CAN'T BE ASKED TO GETTYSBURG

57:58 - CAN'T BE ESTES VALLEY FORGE.

58:00 - YES. IF YOUR TOWN BUT PEOPLE

58:02 - ARE SO FASCINATED BY THINK

58:03 - SOMETIMES THOSE EVENTS ARE

58:05 - BIGGER NOW THAN THEY WERE.

58:06 - I THINK THIS IS GOING TO GET

58:07 - BIGGER AND BIGGER. ON THAT LIKE

58:09 - TO THANK MY GUESTS FOR JOINING

58:10 - US TODAY.

58:11 - >>AS ALWAYS, IF YOU HAVE

58:12 - QUESTIONS ABOUT TODAY'S

58:13 - EPISODE, WE'RE RECOMMENDATIONS

58:15 - FOR FUTURE EPISODES. PLEASE

58:17 - VISIT OUR WEBSITE AT PCN TV

58:19 - DOT COM WHERE EVERYBODY HERE

58:20 - BATTLEFIELD PENNSYLVANIA.

58:22 - I'M BRADY CRATES ARE SAYING

58:23 - SO LONG.