00:00 - GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN EVERYONE

00:01 - WE ARE AT OUR FINAL STOP FOR

00:03 - SATURDAY AFTERNOON. I'M WITH

00:05 - DOCTOR ASHLEY LUSK AND SHE IS

00:07 - THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AT THE

00:09 - SUPPORTERS TO 2. SHE'S GOING TO

00:11 - BE TALKING TO US TODAY ABOUT

00:13 - THE ROSE FAR MANY OF YOU

00:15 - HAVE PROBABLY BEEN IN THE

00:16 - VICINITY OF THE ROSE FAR BUT

00:17 - NOT STANDING HERE IN THE

00:19 - FRONT YARD. THE ROSE FAR THE

00:21 - ROADS WHICH NOTED FOR THE

00:23 - FAMOUS PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN BY

00:25 - ALEXANDER GARDNER OF

00:27 - SIMPSON'S GEORGIA'S MAYBE A

00:29 - KERSHAW SOUTH CAROLINIANS ARE

00:30 - IN THE PICTURE AS WELL.

00:31 - SO WE'LL PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE

00:32 - BIT ABOUT THAT PICTURE OF

00:33 - LITTLE BIT LATER BUT TODAY,

00:35 - ASHLEY, IT IS GOING TO GIVE US

00:38 - SOME INSIGHTS. THE GEORGE

00:41 - REPS AND HIS FAMILY, SURE.

00:43 - THANKS KATE AND THANK YOU ALL

00:45 - FOR FOR TUNING IN SO WE'RE

00:46 - STANDING HERE AS PETE SAID IN

00:48 - THE FRONT YARD OF THE GEORGE

00:50 - ROSE FARM AND GEORGE ROSE HAS

00:53 - A VERY IRONIC AND VERY TRAGIC

00:55 - STORY THAT COMES OUT OF

00:57 - GETTYSBURG. NOT EVERY CIVILIAN

00:59 - EXPERIENCE DURING THE BATTLE IS

01:00 - TRAGIC IN FACT AT OUR

01:02 - NEXT STOP WILL BE GOING TO BE

01:03 - TALKING ABOUT ONE WHICH

01:05 - CIVILIANS ACTUALLY PROFIT

01:06 - OFF THAT THAT IT'S THE

01:08 - DESTRUCTION THAT COMES OUT OF

01:09 - THE BATTLE HERE BUT FOR GEORGE

01:11 - ROSE THINGS TURNED OUT VERY

01:12 - DIFFERENTLY YOU'LL NOTICE THIS

01:14 - VERY BEAUTIFUL LARGE ELABORATE.

01:17 - STONEHOUSE HERE IT REALLY LOOKS

01:18 - MORE LIKE A MANSON ANYTHING

01:20 - ELSE. GEORGE ROSE PURCHASE THIS

01:22 - FARM IN 1858. HE IS

01:24 - A BUTCHER BASED OUT OF

01:25 - PHILADELPHIA JUST OUTSIDE

01:26 - PHILADELPHIA IN GERMANTOWN AND

01:28 - HE WAS BASICALLY LIVING THE

01:30 - FREE LABOR IDEOLOGY DREAM, THIS

01:32 - MAN OWNS HIS OWN LABOR.

01:34 - HE'S ACCUMULATED CAPITAL, HE'S

01:36 - DEPENDENT ON NO ONE HE OWNS HIS

01:38 - OWN BUSINESS.

01:39 - HE IS LIVING THE DREAM ANY

01:40 - PURCHASES THIS HOUSE IS

01:42 - BASICALLY A SUMMER RURAL

01:43 - RETREAT FOR HIMSELF AND HIS

01:44 - FAMILY. SO THIS IS A SECOND

01:46 - HOME FOR HIM,

01:47 - UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE

01:48 - BATTLE HE WILL NEVER LIVE HERE

01:50 - ACTUALLY UNTIL AFTER 1868.

01:53 - AND THAT TIME IS GOING TO BE

01:54 - PLAYED WITH DEBT

01:56 - WITH TRAGEDY WITH ALL KINDS OF

01:58 - ANXIETIES AND IT'S NOT THE

02:00 - RURAL RETREAT THAT HE HAD ONCE

02:03 - SHIRT THOUGHT OUT THERE SURE.

02:05 - POSSIBLE THAT HE IS THE

02:06 - FOUNDER T STEAKS

02:07 - IN PHILADELPHIA, THE VERY OF

02:09 - THE ROSES CHEESE STEAK ROSES

02:11 - TO TAKE STEVE NEVER HAD A

02:12 - CHEESE STEAK, I MEAN I IN

02:14 - VEGETARIAN BECAME A VEGETARIAN

02:16 - AT PHILADELPHIA. THAT'S

02:17 - INTERESTING THOUGH IS THAT THIS

02:18 - WAS A SUMMARY TRIS WAS A SUMMER

02:20 - TREAT. YES, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO

02:22 - BE A CITIZEN. YES, YES,

02:24 - BUT THEN OF COURSE YOU KNOW THE

02:25 - BATTLE COMES AND THAT DESTROYS

02:27 - A LOT OF GEORGE ROSES HOPES AND

02:28 - DREAMS FOR THE FUTURE.

02:30 - KNOW AT THE TIME OF THE

02:31 - BATTLE. THIS HOUSE WAS ACTUALLY

02:33 - LEASED OUT TO GEORGE'S BROTHER

02:34 - JOHN HE WAS THE RESIDENT WHO

02:36 - ACTUALLY LIVED HERE AT THE

02:37 - TIME, THERE ARE 14 ROOMS INSIDE

02:39 - THIS HUGE HOUSE AND JOHN HAD A

02:41 - LOT OF HELP WITH HIM WORKING

02:43 - THE FARM HE HAD A TENANT

02:45 - WAS KNOWN AS A PROFESSIONAL 10

02:47 - AT THE TIME IN FRANCE'S OGDEN,

02:49 - THIS MAN PROBABLY HAD NUMEROUS

02:50 - OTHER PROPERTIES THAT HE WORKED

02:52 - OUT AND LIVE DOT THROUGHOUT HIS

02:53 - LIFE IN GETTYSBURG. BUT HE WAS

02:56 - LIVING HERE WITH HIS LARGE

02:57 - FAMILY DURING THE TIME OF THE

02:58 - BATTLE. SO THERE COULD HAVE

03:00 - BEEN ABOUT 18 PEOPLE LIVING

03:01 - HERE DURING THE TIME

03:04 - ASHLEY IS A STUDENT OF

03:05 - SOUTHERN HISTORY AS I AM WE

03:07 - THINK OF TENET REALLY THINK OF

03:09 - THE SOUTH. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL IN

03:12 - TERMS OF 10.

03:15 - BUT THEY DON'T RESEMBLE THAT

03:16 - LIFE OF LIVING BASICALLY OF

03:18 - SQUALOR WHEN WE THINK OF.

03:21 - SO THIS IS A VERY FASCINATING.

03:23 - I THINK

03:24 - ASPECT A CULTURAL HISTORY

03:26 - HISTORY IN THE NORTH.

03:27 - THAT WE OFTEN GO CONSIDERED.

03:29 - YEAH AND THERE ARE MANY

03:29 - TENANTS HERE IN MANY OF THE

03:32 - FARMS, THE LARGER FARMS,

03:33 - ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTHERN AND

03:34 - WESTERN OUTSKIRTS WHERE THE

03:35 - LAND WAS USUALLY FOR LARGE

03:38 - SCALE FARMING WERE RENTED OUT

03:40 - TO MAKE THEIR SON FARM, I WAS

03:42 - ONE OF WAS HOW TO HAVE FUN IT'S

03:44 - GOING ON AT THE HARMAN FARMS

03:46 - NUMEROUS NUMEROUS PROPERTIES

03:47 - AND ESPECIALLY THIS ONE BECAUSE

03:48 - IT WAS SO BIG AND GEORGE ROSE

03:50 - HAD A LOT OF MONEY.

03:51 - HE COULD BOTH LEASED THE

03:52 - PROPERTY TO HIS BROTHER AND

03:53 - HAVE TENANTS LIVING HERE AT THE

03:55 - SAME TIME.

03:55 - THIS OR DO YOU THINK THAT HAS

03:56 - PAID HIM AND THEY WOULD OFTEN

03:57 - WORK OR MAYBE THEY WORK.

04:00 - I THINK THE TENANTS

04:01 - WITH ATTENDANCE. THEY THINK

04:03 - WE'RE LIVING HERE IN 1863

04:04 - WORKING THE FARM AND LIVING

04:06 - HERE. THEY THINK THAT THEY HAD

04:08 - ONE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND JOHN

04:09 - ROSE AND HIS FAMILY HE HAD AT

04:10 - LEAST 7 CHILDREN OF HIS OWN

04:12 - LIVE HERE AT THE SAME TIME.

04:14 - SO IS AN INTERESTING SIDE BY

04:16 - SIDE RELATIONSHIP. YEAH, YEAH.

04:18 - I WAS LIKE A DORM,

04:21 - EXACTLY EXACTLY DRAMA

04:24 - JOHN ROSE HIMSELF MEANS HE

04:25 - DIDN'T WANT TO WORK THIS FAR IN

04:27 - HIS ENTIRE LIFE HE HAD DREAMS

04:28 - OF GOING BACK TO PHILADELPHIA

04:29 - WHERE HE'S BEEN A GROCER FOR A

04:31 - LONG TIME. BUT THE BATTLE

04:33 - CHANGES THAT FOR HIM AS WELL

04:35 - IN TERMS OF KIND OF DESTROYING

04:37 - HIS LIFELONG DREAMS AND

04:38 - ASPIRATIONS.

04:41 - SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT THAT THE

04:43 - WAR DESTROYED HIS STREAMS.

04:45 - WE'RE CHECKING HOW DID THAT

04:46 - HAPPEN. I THINK THE BUILDING IS

04:48 - STILL STANDING THE BUILDING IS

04:49 - STILL STANDING YEAH, IT

04:50 - CERTAINLY TOOK A LOT OF DAMAGE

04:51 - DURING THE BATTLE ITSELF THIS

04:53 - IS THE SITE OF SOME HEAVY

04:54 - COMBAT AS YOU MENTIONED SENSES

04:55 - PER GAME MARCH THROUGH HERE

04:56 - HER.

04:57 - HERE ARE SHOTS BRIGADE

04:58 - ANDERSON'S BRIGADE A BUNCH OF

05:00 - SOUTH CAROLINIANS ABOUT A BUNCH

05:01 - OF GEORGIANS.

05:04 - THIS WAS USED AS A CONFEDERATE

05:06 - FIELD HOSPITAL. AFTER THE JULY

05:08 - SECOND ATTACKS AND BOTH THE

05:10 - ARTILLERY DAMAGE TO THE HOUSE

05:12 - THE SOLDIERS TRAMPLING THE

05:14 - ORCHARDS THE FIELDS, THE THING

05:16 - THIS WEEK'S FIELD WAS OWNED BY

05:17 - GEORGE ROSE THAT HAS DESTROYED

05:18 - BY THE BATTLE. DESTROYS A LOT

05:20 - OF THE AGRICULTURE

05:21 - DESTROYS A LOT OF FARMING TOOLS

05:24 - AND EQUIPMENT.

05:25 - THE BAR AND ALL KINDS OF

05:26 - OUTBUILDINGS AND THINGS LIKE

05:27 - THAT PERSONAL, YOU KNOW REAL

05:29 - ESTATE JOHN ROSE'S PERSONAL

05:30 - PROPERTY. THAT'S INSIDE THE

05:31 - HOUSE IS DESTROYED.

05:33 - THERE ABOUT 400 TO 500

05:35 - CONFEDERATES THAT ARE BURIED ON

05:36 - THE PROPERTY.

05:37 - AFTER THE

05:38 - BATTLE ITSELF.

05:39 - AND THESE THESE DEBTS, THEY

05:41 - PILE UP IN TERMS OF GETTING

05:43 - THIS PLACE BACK TO A WORKING

05:44 - FARM JOHN ROSE NEEDS THE INCOME

05:46 - FROM THE FARM HE NEEDS THAT YOU

05:48 - KNOW THE SOUTH SUSTAINABILITY

05:49 - OF WORKING FARM.

05:51 - AND FRANCE'S OGDEN NEEDS IT

05:52 - AS WELL SO WHAT.

05:54 - IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THIS TO ME

05:55 - WHY COULDN'T ROSE JUST GO TO

05:57 - THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND TRY

05:59 - TO GET SOME COMPENSATION FOR

06:01 - THE

06:01 - DESTRUCTION THAT THE BATTLE

06:02 - PROCTORS FOR SURE AND HE TRIED

06:04 - TO I BELIEVE HE TRIED TO TO GET

06:06 - A CLAIM FOR $2500 OR SO MIGHT

06:09 - HAVE BEEN EVEN MORE.

06:10 - BUT IN THE END THE FEDERAL

06:11 - GOVERNMENT SAID WELL WE CAN'T

06:13 - PROVE THAT THE ARTILLERY DAMAGE

06:14 - TO YOUR HOUSE WAS DONE BY.

06:16 - FEDERAL ARTILLERY IT COULD

06:17 - HAVE BEEN CONFEDERATE ARTILLERY

06:19 - ARE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR THAT.

06:20 - AND SO THEY WON'T PAY FOR THE

06:21 - CONFEDERATES BUT IF IT WAS A

06:23 - UNION SHOWED EXACTLY WHY THEY

06:24 - WOULD PAY.

06:25 - AND THEN

06:25 - HE SAID WELL THAT THERE ARE

06:27 - ALSO YOU KNOW UNION SOLDIERS

06:29 - WHO CAME THROUGH HERE AFTER THE

06:30 - SECOND AND THEY TOOK THINGS

06:31 - FROM THE HOUSE AS WELL, BUT

06:32 - THERE ARE

06:32 - NO RECEIPTS. THAT WE'RE GIVEN

06:34 - FOR THAT AND SO HE GENERALLY

06:36 - GOOD RIGHT. THAT'S IS MEMBER

06:38 - NOTED FOR THEY

06:39 - WERE PLUNDERED SAY, HERE'S

06:40 - RECEIPTS FOR YOUR HISTORICAL

06:44 - RECORDS RIGHT ON TO THAT RIGHT.

06:45 - SO THERE'S NO WAY TO PROVE WHO

06:47 - DID THIS DAMAGE.

06:48 - THE FEDERAL COMMISSIONS YOU

06:50 - KNOW THEY'RE ONLY BEING PAID

06:51 - THEY'RE ONLY PAYING OUT TO TO

06:53 - DAMAGE THAT WAS INCURRED

06:55 - BECAUSE OF FEDERAL FEDERAL

06:56 - SOLAR, YES. SO HE LOSES A LOT.

06:59 - GEORGE ROSE IS A LOT.

07:01 - JOHN ROSIES A LOT FRANCIS

07:03 - OGDEN, PERHAPS THIS IS THE MOST

07:04 - BECAUSE HE'S THE TENETS YOU

07:06 - CAN'T FILE FOR ANY CLAIMS.

07:08 - AND THIS PROPERTY FALLS GEORGE

07:10 - ROSE FALLS DEEPLY INTO DEBT IN

07:12 - FACT HE TRIES TO SELL

07:13 - THE PROPERTY IN 1866 KNOWING

07:15 - THAT HE'S NEVER GOING TO RECOUP

07:16 - HIS LOSSES.

07:18 - THE SALE DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE

07:20 - NOBODY WANTS TO BUY THE HE

07:22 - TRIES TO SELL IT NUMEROUS OTHER

07:23 - TIMES EVENTUALLY HE HAS

07:25 - CREDITORS CHASING HIM HE HAS

07:27 - HIS SUPPLIERS, HIS MEAT

07:28 - SUPPLIERS IN PHILADELPHIA

07:29 - SAYING.

07:30 - YOU KNOW YOU GOT TO PAY UP

07:31 - WHERE'S THE MONEY.

07:33 - EVENTUALLY AND PROBABLY ONE OF

07:34 - THE MOST

07:34 - HUMILIATING EPISODES. HE HAS TO

07:38 - HAVE HIS SALE PUT OUT FOR

07:39 - PUBLIC AUCTION BY THE SHERIFF

07:41 - AND THAT HAPPENED TWICE

07:43 - SO THIS IS A MAN WHO AGAIN HE

07:45 - WAS EXTREMELY WEALTHY AT THE

07:46 - TIME VERY WELL REGARDED IN

07:48 - PHILADELPHIA, PEOPLE KNEW HIM

07:49 - AND HIS FAMILY HERE

07:50 - AND HERE HE IS NOW HIS PROPERTY

07:52 - IS GOING UP FOR

07:52 - PUBLIC SALE AND THAT

07:55 - ESSENTIALLY IT DOESN'T GO

07:56 - ANYWHERE. NO ONE WANTS TO BUY

07:57 - THE PROPERTY. HE EVENTUALLY

07:58 - SELLS IT

07:59 - TO SOMEONE. $400 SO ADVISED THE

08:02 - ENTIRE PROPERTY $400 JUST TO

08:04 - GET IT OFF HIS HANDS, BUT THAT

08:05 - INDIVIDUAL SAYS I CAN'T TAKE

08:07 - CARE OF THIS PLACE EITHER

08:08 - THERE'S WAY TOO MUCH BATTLE

08:09 - DAMAGE AND SO HE SELLS IT BACK

08:11 - AND GEORGE ROSE AGAIN HE GOES

08:13 - THROUGH MULTIPLE TRANSACTIONS

08:14 - WHERE HE SELLS IT TO NEIGHBORS

08:15 - WHO IMMEDIATELY SELL IT BACK HE

08:17 - SELLS WEEKEND. THEY SELL IT

08:18 - BACK. UNTIL FINALLY IN 1888

08:21 - PASSES OUT OF HIS HANDS.

08:22 - IT'S A

08:23 - GREAT RELIEF. NOW AS I SAID HE

08:24 - NEVER ACTUALLY COMES HERE TO

08:26 - LIVE AT THE FARM FOR ANY PERIOD

08:27 - OF TIME UNTIL 1868. HE

08:29 - EVENTUALLY RECOUP SOME ENOUGH

08:31 - MONEY AND HE'S ABLE TO GO BACK

08:33 - TO PHILADELPHIA FOR A SHORT

08:34 - TIME. HE'S WORKING AS A CLERK

08:36 - THOUGH SO WORKING FOR WAGES,

08:38 - HE'S NOT LIVING THAT KIND OF

08:39 - FREE LABOR DREAM, HE'S

08:40 - DEPENDENT ON OTHER PEOPLE.

08:42 - IT'S A FALL IN SOCIETY.

08:45 - HE EVENTUALLY OPENS UP A SMALL

08:47 - BUT YOUR BUSINESS IN

08:48 - PHILADELPHIA.

08:49 - BUT EVENTUALLY DIES OF A

08:50 - STOMACH CANCER IN 1882. THE

08:52 - DOCTORS THINK FROM EXCESSIVE

08:54 - WORRYING. I PRODUCED IS IDEA OF

08:57 - WHAT HAPPENED.

08:59 - SO ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO GO

09:00 - TO A SECOND STOP BEFORE WE DO

09:02 - THAT THEN.

09:04 - THE INSIGHTS THAT YOU'VE

09:05 - OFFERED THIS YEAR I THINK ARE

09:06 - SO VALUABLE BECAUSE WE KNOW SO

09:09 - LITTLE ABOUT HOW THE CIVILIANS.

09:11 - TRY TO RECOVER AND RECOUP THE

09:13 - LOSSES THAT OCCURRED THAT

09:14 - ADVOCATES FOR AND ADAMS COUNTY

09:16 - AND THEY'RE JUST REMINDS I

09:19 - THE SURVEY HIS STORY IS NOT

09:21 - GOOD AS IT ONCE WAS 1520 YEARS

09:24 - AGO WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE.

09:26 - BUT HOW IMPORTANT THAT STORY IS

09:28 - PARTICULARLY FACT THAT

09:29 - THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S

09:30 - RESPONSE TO WHAT WE WOULD CALL

09:32 - DISASTER RELIEF MATCH IT TO THE

09:35 - RIGHT OF SOMEBODY SAID YOU'RE

09:36 - ON YOUR OWN YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN

09:38 - ALL RIGHT, WE'RE YOU CAN PROVE

09:39 - THAT THERE ARE

09:40 - FEDERAL SHELLS. I GOT RIGHT

09:42 - BEHIND YOU. ASHLEY IS A LONG

09:43 - LINE OF YOUR NEW BATTERIES THAT

09:45 - FIRED INTO THE FLANKER

09:47 - KERSHAW'S MAN I SUSPECT

09:48 - THEY WERE THAT ACCURATE THAT IF

09:50 - YOU KNEW CHARLESTON LAND IN

09:51 - THIS VICINITY. AGAIN HE WAS FAR

09:54 - FROM ALONE

09:55 - AND MAKING TRYING TO MAKE THOSE

09:56 - CLAIMS ON THE FEDERAL

09:57 - GOVERNMENT RIGHT TO KNOW.

09:59 - AS ONE OF THOSE IRONIC

10:00 - STORIES TO A GANG OF PEOPLE

10:01 - COME TO GETTYSBURG AND

10:03 - YOU KNOW THIS IS A MAJOR UNION

10:04 - VICTORY, IT'S IT'S NOT

10:05 - NECESSARILY THAT TURNING POINT

10:07 - OF THE WAR THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE

10:08 - MAKE IT OUT TO BE.

10:09 - BUT YOU KNOW THE UNION IS

10:11 - FIGHTING FOR AMONG OTHER THINGS

10:12 - THIS FREE LABOR IDEOLOGY, YOU

10:14 - KNOW THAT'S THAT THE

10:15 - UNDERPINNINGS OF THE REPUBLICAN

10:16 - PARTY AND IT'S IRONICALLY THIS

10:18 - GREAT UNION VICTORY HERE IN THE

10:21 - WAR FOR UNION THAT DESTROYS

10:23 - GEORGE ROSES ABILITY CHIEF OF

10:25 - FREE LABOR DREAM BECAUSE YOU'RE

10:26 - IN FOR THOSE AT HOME WORKING

10:28 - ARE ACTUALLY REFERRED TO FREE

10:29 - LABOR IDEOLOGY IS THAT.

10:31 - WELL THE THE CITY MATTHEW

10:33 - HARD WORK AND PURCHASE LIVING

10:34 - CAN PAUL HIMSELF OR HERSELF.

10:38 - HAVE SOCIAL MOBILITY AND

10:39 - CHIEF STATUS AND THAT'S A VERY

10:41 - CORE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

10:42 - THAT'S WHAT ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S

10:44 - LIFE AS WELL. YOU MAKE AN

10:46 - OUTSTANDING POINT HERE SAID,

10:47 - YOU KNOW WE SEE THAT ONE OF THE

10:50 - TENSIONS WITH THEIR FREE LABOR

10:51 - IDEOLOGY IS THE FEAR OF

10:53 - DEPENDENCY RIGHT. THEY'RE SO

10:55 - CONCERNED THAT THE FEDERAL

10:56 - GOVERNMENT IS CAN GET PEOPLE ON

10:57 - THE DOLE, THEY'LL GIVE ROSE MAN

10:59 - THIS DUDE DESERVES TO BE BAILED

11:01 - OUT

11:01 - FOR RAPID AND THERE'S A CALLOUS

11:03 - EXAMPLES OF YOU GO DOWN TO

11:06 - SOUTH CAROLINA. AND THERE WERE

11:08 - WOMEN. WIVES.

11:11 - AFRICAN AMERICANS WHERE THE

11:12 - U.S. INTO EUROPE AND THEY WERE

11:16 - AND THIS IN ESSENCE A WAGE FROM

11:18 - THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO

11:19 - PROVIDE FOR RATIONS CARE WHERE

11:21 - THE MEN OF COURSE REFORM.

11:23 - AND SOME BUREAUCRATIC HER WE'RE

11:25 - SO FEARFUL THAT THIS WEEK

11:26 - CREEK. IT'S THE PRIDE THAT THEY

11:28 - TOOK THAT MONEY AWAY FROM THE

11:30 - WIVES OF BLOCK. YOU

11:32 - SO MUCH RIGHT AGAIN

11:35 - RIGHT IT'S WHEN THOSE TENSIONS

11:37 - WITHIN 3 LABOR IDEOLOGY BECAUSE

11:38 - THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT

11:40 - ANY MAN CAN OVERCOME ANY

11:42 - OBSTACLE RIGHT EXACTLY MARKET

11:43 - ULTIMATELY IS THE JUDGE

11:45 - INTELLIGENCE AND ART

11:48 - STUFF AND WE'RE GOING TO ONE

11:49 - MORE A MORE SOBER, WE'RE DOING

11:51 - MORE STOP IN AND FINISHED WITH

12:04 - OKAY SO WE ARE AT OUR

12:06 - FINAL STOP AT THE ROSE FAR AND

12:08 - IN THE PROBLEM OF THE HOUSE

12:10 - BEHIND ME YOU CAN SEE IT

12:11 - ORCHARD.

12:12 - AND JUST BEHIND THAT ORCHARD

12:14 - IS THE BOUNDARY OF THIS ROSE

12:16 - WOODS AND THE SCENE OF WHERE

12:18 - THE FAMOUS PHOTOGRAPH IS TAKEN.

12:20 - I SHOULD SAY PHOTOGRAPHS

12:22 - ON JULY THE 5TH BY ALEXANDER

12:23 - GARDNER AND HIS TEAM.

12:25 - A PHOTOGRAPH OF CONFEDERATE

12:26 - DEAD, AS I

12:27 - MENTIONED BEFORE THEY'RE FROM

12:29 - SIMPSON'S GEORGIA PER GAME AND

12:30 - POSSIBLY A FEW. KERSHAW SOUTH

12:33 - CAROLINA FOR GAY. THIS FOR

12:35 - THE GRASS. I TRIED TO TRACK

12:37 - HIM DOWN TO SEE IF THEY

12:38 - WERE TURNED INTO WITH CUTS IN

12:41 - NORTHERN NEWSPAPERS TO DISCOVER

12:43 - ASHLEY THAT

12:44 - THEY WORKED TO MY SURPRISE MANY

12:46 - OF YOU KNOW THAT THE PROGRESS

12:47 - THAT GARNER TICKET INTO THEM,

12:50 - SEPTEMBER BEATEN 62. THOSE WERE

12:52 - IN ESSENCE TRANSLATED. TO

12:54 - HARPER'S WEEKLY SAID THAT MANY

12:56 - NORTHERNERS GOT A SENSE.

12:58 - THE GRIM REALITY OF WAR AND

13:00 - IN FACT TO MY RESEARCH THAT DID

13:02 - NOT HAPPEN WHICH IS SURPRISING

13:03 - GARNER

13:04 - PUBLISHES THEM THE SKETCHBOOK

13:05 - AND WHEN IT'S 66 I WANT TO SAY

13:07 - A STORE THING AND 66. SO THE

13:10 - FOR TO GRAB ONE OF THE MANY

13:11 - THEY WERE TAKEN AT WHICH POINT

13:13 - SHE SHOWED THIS TO YOU ALL

13:14 - AGAIN, I'M QUITE CERTAIN THOSE

13:15 - OF YOU AT HOME SEE THAT.

13:17 - AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY HERE

13:20 - TO TALK ABOUT ROSES REACTION

13:23 - TO HAVING.

13:24 - SOLDIERS CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS

13:26 - BURIED IN HIS FRONT YARD OF HIS

13:27 - PROPERTY AND SO ACTUALLY WORK

13:29 - DID MISTER ROSE DO. AFTER AND

13:32 - YOU CAN CAME BACK AND HAD TO

13:33 - CONTEND WITH SURE SO WHEN WE'RE

13:35 - TALKING ABOUT MISTER ROSE IN

13:36 - THIS INSTANCE, WE'RE TALKING

13:37 - ABOUT JOHN THE ACTUAL ROSE WHO

13:39 - LIVED HERE DURING THE BATTLE

13:40 - AND AND RIGHT AFTER SO HE'S THE

13:42 - ONE.

13:43 - WHO HAS TO CONTEND WITH ALL

13:44 - OF THESE DEAD BODIES BURIED

13:46 - AROUND HIS HOUSE AND ACROSS HIS

13:48 - FARM AND OF COURSE DURING THE

13:49 - 19TH CENTURY THERE IS THIS

13:51 - NOTION OF THE GOOD DEATH THAT

13:53 - SOLDIERS ARE GOING TO DIE

13:55 - IN A WAY THAT THEY'RE PREPARED

13:56 - FOR A BATTLE THAT THEY ARE

13:58 - FACING THE ENEMY THAT

14:00 - THEY CAN WHISPER THEIR FINAL

14:01 - WORDS TO LOVED ONES THAT THEIR

14:04 - WHOLE AND BODY.

14:05 - AND THAT THEY YOU KNOW HAVE AN

14:07 - OPPORTUNITY TO TO GO TO HEAVEN.

14:09 - AFTER YOU KNOW DYING A BRAVE

14:11 - AND COURAGEOUS DEATH ON THE

14:12 - BATTLEFIELD AND SO THEIR IDEAS

14:15 - ABOUT TREATMENT OF THE DEAD

14:16 - EVEN

14:16 - IF THERE AND IT NEEDED WHICH

14:18 - THEY WERE OF COURSE FOR JOHN

14:19 - ROSE ABOUT HOW TO TREAT THESE

14:22 - GUYS MAYBE NOT WITH REVERENCE

14:23 - BUT AT LEAST WITH HUMAN

14:24 - DECENCY. THESE GUYS ARE LYING

14:26 - OUT THE LOADED IN THE SUN FOR

14:28 - DAYS AFTER THEY'VE BEEN KILLED

14:30 - THERE ARE AWAITING BURIAL AS

14:31 - YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH.

14:33 - BUT FOR JOHN ROSE THIS POSES.

14:36 - KIND OF A PHILOSOPHICAL AND

14:38 - AND HUMANITARIAN CHALLENGE IN

14:41 - HIS MIND. HE IS A FARMER WHO

14:42 - HAS JUST HAD

14:43 - EVERYTHING ON HIS PROPERTY

14:45 - NEARLY DESTROYED HIS HOUSE IS

14:46 - STILL STANDING THANKFULLY.

14:47 - BUT MOST OF THE WAYS THAT HE

14:48 - CAN MAKE HIS LIVING WITH HIS

14:50 - ANIMALS WITH THE CRASH COPS

14:51 - WITH HIS FARMING AND IMPLEMENTS

14:53 - THEY'VE BEEN DESTROYED BY THIS

14:54 - BATTLE AND THEN YOU HAVE TO CUT

14:55 - IT CONTEND WITH 400 TO 500

14:58 - CONFEDERATE BURIALS ON HIS

14:59 - PROPERTY AND THE FIRST THING IN

15:01 - HIS MIND IS I NEED TO GET THE

15:02 - FARM BACK UP AND WORKING AGAIN

15:04 - WHEN WE THINK OF THE CIVILIAN

15:05 - EXPERIENCE. WE THINK OF

15:07 - CIVILIANS COMING BACK AND YOU

15:08 - KNOW BEING CONFRONTED BY THESE

15:10 - ATROCIOUS SIGHTS AND SMELLS AND

15:13 - YOU KNOW JUST HORRIFIC THINGS

15:14 - ACROSS THEIR FARMS.

15:16 - BUT THEN THERE'S THE PRACTICAL

15:17 - PRAGMATIC WAY OF FULL HOW DO WE

15:19 - PICK UP THE PIECES AND HOW DO

15:20 - WE MOVE ON FROM THIS AND SO

15:22 - THAT'S FIRST AND FOREMOST AND

15:23 - JOHN GROCE HIS MIND. HE'S

15:25 - FRUSTRATED AND ANGRY BY WHAT HE

15:26 - SEES AND IN FACT SOME OF THE

15:29 - FENCE POSTS THAT WERE LINING

15:31 - HIS PROPERTY HERE AND OUTLINING

15:33 - SOME OF THE ORCHARDS IN THE

15:34 - FARM FIELDS, THEY HAVE BEEN

15:36 - TAKEN DOWN BY CONFEDERATES IN

15:38 - THE MEANTIME RIGHT AFTER JULY

15:39 - 2ND. AND THEY'VE BEEN USED AS

15:41 - TEMPORARY HEADBOARDS FOR THE

15:43 - SOLDIERS AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY A

15:45 - COUPLE OF OTHER PHOTOGRAPHS OF

15:47 - THE DEAD ON THE ROADS FARM THAT

15:48 - SHOW SOME OF THOSE FENCE POST

15:50 - AND THE HEADBOARD FLYING

15:51 - AGAINST THEM AND SO HE HAS TO

15:53 - FIND A WAY TO KIND OF DEAL WITH

15:54 - THEM AND AGAIN THIS POSES A

15:57 - DEEP QUESTION ARE WE GOING TO

15:58 - JUST THROW THEM IN A PIT ALL

15:59 - TOGETHER AND CALL IT A DAY

16:01 - OR ARE WE GOING TO LIVE THEM

16:03 - OUT INDIVIDUALLY ARE WE GOING

16:05 - TO RETAIL THE FIELDS THAT HAVE

16:07 - BEEN SOAKED WITH THEIR BLOOD

16:08 - DURING THIS BATTLE

16:09 - OR ARE WE GOING TO KIND OF

16:10 - AVOID THOSE AREAS BECAUSE

16:12 - THEY'RE HUMAN REMAINS THERE.

16:13 - IT POSES A DEEP QUESTION AGAIN

16:15 - CHALLENGING

16:15 - VICTORIAN OCEANS ABOUT DEATH

16:17 - ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH A DEAD

16:19 - BODY EVEN IF IT IS AN ENEMY

16:20 - BODY AS WELL AS THE PRAGMATIC

16:22 - SIDE OF OF MOVING ON IN THE

16:24 - WAKE OF THIS

16:25 - THIS TERRIBLE. HORRIFIC

16:27 - DESTRUCTION THAT HAS DESTROYED.

16:29 - SO MUCH OF HIS WAY OF LIFE.

16:32 - SUCCESSION WHEN WERE THE

16:33 - BODIES. THIS IN TURN

16:35 - THEN RETURNED. YES, SO THESE

16:37 - BODIES WERE I MEAN THEY WERE

16:39 - VERY SHORTLY AFTER THE BATTLE.

16:41 - AND THEN IN 1871 OR 72. I WANT

16:43 - TO SAY.

16:45 - THE CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS WERE

16:47 - DISINTERRED. AND THEY WERE

16:48 - BROUGHT BACK TO VARIOUS

16:50 - CEMETERIES ACROSS THE SOUTH

16:51 - THERE'S A LARGE PLOT AND

16:53 - RICHMOND IN HOLLYWOOD CEMETERY

16:54 - FOR GETTYSBURG.

16:56 - CONFEDERATE DEAD, SO SOME OF

16:57 - THESE DEAD COULD HAVE BEEN

16:58 - PLACED THERE SOME OF THEM COULD

16:59 - HAVE GONE TO OTHER CEMETERIES

17:01 - ACROSS THE SOUTH AS WELL.

17:03 - SO THESE BODIES ARE HERE FOR A

17:04 - LONG PERIOD OF TIME WHEN JOHN

17:06 - ROSE IS HERE TRYING TO RECOUP

17:07 - HIS LIVING AND OF COURSE WHEN

17:09 - GEORGE ROSE GETS HERE AS WELL

17:11 - AS 1868.

17:13 - THEY I THINK WHERE THE OTHER

17:14 - THINGS TOO TO CONSIDER ASHLEY

17:16 - IS FOR THOSE MEN

17:18 - TO SURVIVE. FOR THOSE MEN HAD

17:20 - TO THE OTHER COMRADES BEHIND.

17:23 - MANY OF THOSE BIG GUY RIGHT

17:25 - HERE PROBABLY IN THIS HOUSE AS

17:26 - WELL AND THAT THEY HAD TO

17:27 - CONTINUE. IT'S A LIVE WITH THAT

17:30 - I JUST RECENTLY READ THAT TOLD

17:32 - YOU ABOUT THIS. A SURVIVOR

17:34 - PICKETT'S CHARGE AND HE SAID

17:35 - THAT.

17:37 - HE WAS FEELING THERE IN BELLA

17:38 - COLLINA AND LONESOME THAT IS

17:40 - REGIMENTED SUFFERED. RAGES

17:43 - CASUALTIES.

17:44 - AND THAT HE HAD A DREAM ABOUT

17:46 - THE STRANGE GOOD ROAD ABOUT THE

17:47 - TREATMENTS FOR THE REMARKABLY

17:49 - SAID IN THE DREAM, HE FOUND

17:50 - HIMSELF BACK ON THE

17:52 - BATTLEFIELD. HE QUICKLY

17:53 - REALIZED THAT IT WAS GETTYSBURG

17:54 - AND IT WAS PICK ITS CHARGING

17:56 - GOOD. BUT THEY DID FRONT OF HIM

17:57 - THAT THERE WAS A HE COULDN'T

17:59 - ESCAPE THE SHADOW WHEREVER HE

18:01 - RIGHT THERE WAS THE SHOT UP AS

18:03 - THEY WERE MAKING THE

18:03 - ADVANCE AND CASUALTIES WERE

18:05 - GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND

18:07 - GOT INTO THE MAELSTROM OF THE

18:08 - FIGHT THERE STILL WAS THE SHOT

18:10 - AND THEN THE FIGHTING SUBSIDED.

18:14 - THE SHOT OF SAID.

18:16 - I'M YOUR ANGEL AND I THINK THE

18:17 - TECH TO YOU AND I WILL CONTINUE

18:19 - TO PROTECT US OPEN.

18:20 - THAT'S A RARITY AS YOU WELL

18:22 - KNOW AND AS OUR AUDIENCE KNOWS

18:23 - THAT THE MAN DESCRIBE THE

18:24 - TREATMENT THAT KIND OF DETAIL

18:26 - BUT WHEN WE FOCUS SO MUCH ON

18:27 - THE DEAD AND WE DO BECAUSE OF

18:29 - THESE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE SO GASTON

18:30 - SO POWERFUL. LET'S NOT

18:32 - FORGET ABOUT THE LIVING CRISIS

18:34 - OR HEAD TO THE SOLDIERS BEHIND

18:36 - AND HOW THEY GRAPPLE WITH THAT

18:38 - SHOW HAS POWER CONTINUE TO LIVE

18:40 - ON YET BY THE HEARTS AND MINDS

18:42 - OF THE SOLDIERS.

18:44 - THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF

18:44 - CONCERNS YOU KNOW THAT THAT

18:46 - RISE UP OUT OF THIS MEETING

18:48 - COMRADES HERE, ESPECIALLY YOU

18:49 - KNOW WITH WITH THE ANIMALS THAT

18:50 - ARE NOT PENNED IN ANYMORE THE

18:52 - ANIMAL TO SURVIVE THERE SOME

18:53 - HORRIFIC IMAGES THAT ARE TAKEN

18:55 - IN FACT ONE IN THE WHEAT FIELD.

18:57 - WHERE I THINK FOR A LONG TIME

18:59 - PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT THIS

19:00 - THIS HORRIBLE IMAGE OF THE

19:01 - SOLDIER WHOSE RIB CAGE HAVE

19:02 - BEEN TORN OPEN AND THAT THAT

19:04 - WAS ARE ALL ARTILLERY DAMAGE

19:05 - BUT NOW THERE'S SPECULATION IS

19:07 - THAT WAS ACTUALLY FROM AN THAT

19:09 - CAME ALONG.

19:11 - YOU KNOW TOOK TO TO THIS DEAD

19:12 - SOLDIERS COURTS AND YOU KNOW

19:14 - THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THESE

19:15 - ARE CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS WHO

19:16 - ARE DYING ON NORTHERN SOIL.

19:18 - IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN DURING

19:19 - THE WAR OF COURSE

19:20 - BUT FEDERAL SOLDIERS HAVE

19:22 - THING. THAT'S HAPPENED NUMEROUS

19:23 - TIMES WITH THEIR DEAD ACROSS

19:24 - THE SOUTH AND THEY WORRY AND

19:26 - WORRY WHAT ARE THE CONFEDERATES

19:27 - GOING TO DO WITH OUR DEAD OR

19:29 - ARE THEY GOING TO TREAT THEM

19:29 - WITH REFERENCE ARE THEY GOING

19:30 - TO YOU KNOW DO HORRIFIC THINGS

19:32 - WITH THEM.

19:33 - AND THAT EARLY ON AS ONE OF

19:34 - THE THINGS THAT HELPED SPARK

19:35 - THAT THE NATIONAL CEMETERY

19:37 - MOVEMENT. BEFORE THE

19:38 - CONFEDERATES YOU KNOW THEY

19:39 - DON'T

19:39 - HAVE THAT AND THEY DON'T SEE

19:41 - MANY OF THEIR DEAD RETURN UNTIL

19:42 - 1870.

19:44 - ASHLEY THANK YOU SO MUCH WE

19:45 - HAVE TO IMPORT MORE CIVILIAN

19:46 - STARTING TO GET TO THE COUNTRY

19:48 - FARMHOUSE. THEN WE'LL ALL

19:51 - RIGHT. THANK YOU THANK YOU.

20:00 - ALL RIGHT, WE'RE AT OUR VERY

20:02 - PARIS ACTUALLY LOST THE EYE

20:04 - WE'RE SEEING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

20:05 - ASSET IN IS IT ABOUT YOUR

20:07 - BACKGROUND, I SUSPECT MANY OF

20:09 - YOU KNOW, ASHLEIGH BECAUSE YOU

20:10 - BECOMING TO CW I

20:11 - IF YOU'RE WITH US FOR THE VERY

20:13 - FIRST TIME ACTUALLY COMES TO

20:15 - WITH A PHD FROM WEST VIRGINIA

20:17 - UNIVERSITY WHERE SHE STUDIED

20:18 - UNDER. JASON PHILLIPS. STUART

20:21 - 54 LITTLE BIT THIS WELL BEFORE

20:23 - I CAME TO GETTYSBURG BUT BEFORE

20:25 - THAT SHE HAD SPENT SOME TIME IN

20:27 - THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.

20:29 - IN FACT YOUR TIME IS

20:30 - AT RICHMOND.

20:31 - I I DID I DID ONE SEASONAL

20:33 - POSITION AT

20:37 - SHE IS WHERE THEY'RE SORT OF

20:38 - RARE BIRDS WHO HAS THE

20:40 - ACADEMIC CREDENTIALS.

20:41 - AND HE'S ALSO WORKED IN THE

20:42 - FIELD OF UPTICK HISTORY.

20:44 - SO ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO TALK

20:45 - ABOUT THE CA DORNEY HOUSE TODAY

20:47 - AND AS US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

20:48 - THE OCCUPANTS AND THEN WE'LL

20:50 - CONCLUDE AND I CONNECTED TO THE

20:52 - SHORT.

20:53 - SO WE'RE STANDING IN THE

20:55 - BACKYARD OF NICHOLAS COULD

20:56 - DORRIES THIS IS A HOUSE THAT HE

20:59 - BUILT THIS IS ACTUALLY THE

21:01 - RENOVATED VERSION OF THE HOUSE

21:02 - THAT HE BUILT

21:03 - HE BUILT A LOG HOUSE AT FIRST

21:06 - HERE AND THEN HE UPDATED IT

21:07 - WITH THIS NICE VERSION

21:09 - SHORTLY THEREAFTER, BUT

21:10 - NICHOLAS COULD HENRI EMIGRATED

21:12 - ACTUALLY

21:12 - TO AMERICA. 1828 WITH HIS

21:15 - BROTHER GEORGE HE WAS ONLY 19

21:17 - YEARS OLD AT THE TIME. HE CAME

21:18 - FROM FRANCE

21:19 - AND HE BELIEVED IN THE AMERICAN

21:23 - HE BELIEVED THAT HE WAS GOING

21:24 - TO WORK HIS WAY UP.

21:26 - THROUGH SOCIETY, ACCUMULATE

21:27 - MONEY RISE UP TO THE SOCIAL

21:29 - RANKS ECONOMIC RANKS BY

21:31 - INVESTING IN LAND.

21:32 - HE WAS DISTRUSTFUL OF BANKS AND

21:34 - SO HE WOULD JUST INVEST IN

21:36 - LAND. HE WOULD SPECULATE INLAND

21:37 - AND YOU HAVE IT ALL ALL OF HIS

21:39 - MONEY INTO LAND OWNERSHIP

21:41 - AND SO THIS WAS ONE OF THE

21:43 - PROJECTS THAT HE ENVISIONED

21:44 - WHEN HE CAME TO GETTYSBURG WITH

21:46 - HIS BROTHER GEORGE AFTER HE

21:47 - EMIGRATED TO AMERICA. HE

21:49 - PURCHASED A 230 ACRE.

21:52 - PARCEL HERE ALONG EMMITSBURG

21:54 - ROAD. SHORTLY AFTER 1828.

21:58 - HE MARRIES A HE HAS SEVERAL

21:59 - CHILDREN AFTER THIS TIME HE

22:01 - ALSO PURCHASES A HOUSE IN TOWN

22:03 - ON YORK STREET.

22:05 - HIS BROTHER GEORGE PURCHASES, A

22:06 - HOUSE ON WEST MIDDLE STREET

22:08 - WHERE HE WILL LIVE.

22:09 - THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE WAR, BUT

22:10 - NICHOLAS HAS THESE 2 HOMES.

22:12 - THIS HOME JUST LIKE THE ROSE

22:14 - FARM WAS RUN BY TENANTS DURING

22:18 - THE BATTLE SO THIS WAS NOT

22:19 - WHERE NICHOLAS WAS ACTUALLY

22:20 - LIVING IN 1863, HE WAS LIVING

22:22 - AT THE YORK

22:23 - STREET HOME BY NICHOLAS WOULD

22:25 - CONTINUE TO ACQUIRE MORE AND

22:26 - MORE LAND. THROUGHOUT HIS TIME

22:28 - IN GETTYSBURG BEFORE THE BATTLE

22:30 - AND AFTER THE BATTLE AND HE'S A

22:32 - VERY VERY

22:32 - DIFFERENT STORY FROM GEORGE AND

22:35 - JOHN ROSE HE IS ACTUALLY ONE OF

22:36 - THOSE UNLIKELY SUCCESS STORIES

22:38 - OF CIVILIANS THAT WE HEAR

22:40 - COMING OUT OF THE BATTLE.

22:41 - HE PROFITS OFF OF OTHER

22:42 - PEOPLE'S LOSSES AND THE

22:44 - DESTRUCTION OF 4 AND HE

22:45 - ACTUALLY COMES OUT

22:46 - ON TOP AFTER EVERYTHING SETTLES

22:49 - AFTER THE WAKE OF THE BATTLE.

22:52 - WELL AS OTHER BUSINESSES THAT

22:53 - HE HAD

22:54 - IT MIGHT TAKE OR PROBABLY MADE

22:56 - THE BEST TO GET TO

22:59 - STEREOTYPE REALLY WHAT'S WRONG

23:02 - TRY AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO.

23:04 - YEAH THAT IS PENNSYLVANIA

23:05 - WINDS ARE REALLY GOOD RIGHT

23:06 - NOW.

23:08 - AND NOW HE'S ACTUALLY BUTCHER

23:09 - IS WELL THERE'S A AND HE HAD A

23:11 - BUTCHER SHOP IN TOWN IN

23:13 - GETTYSBURG AND HE ACTUALLY.

23:15 - MOVED THAT BUSINESS OUT HERE TO

23:17 - THE FARM PROPERTY IN THE

23:19 - 1870'S AFTER BUT SHARING WITH

23:21 - OUTLAWS WITHIN THE BOROUGH, I

23:23 - GUESS JUST BECAUSE IT WAS YOU

23:24 - SPEAKING FOR

23:25 - THE RESIDENTS. YEAH AFTER YOU

23:27 - IS A VERY SO YEAH THAT WAS THAT

23:29 - WAS HIS TRADE WAS THAT HE WAS A

23:30 - BUTCHER AND HE PURCHASED ALL

23:32 - THE PLANS AND THE PROCESS SO WE

23:34 - KNOW THAT DURING THE BOUT,

23:35 - OBVIOUSLY THE OCCUPANTS THEY

23:36 - FLOOD WE ALSO ASSOCIATE

23:38 - VICTORIAN HOUSE WITH

23:39 - THE PICKET GEORGE PICKETT'S

23:40 - SPENT SOME TIME HERE NOT AN

23:42 - ENTIRETY OF THE BATTLE OF

23:43 - COURSE YOUR PICTURE WE ALSO

23:44 - KNOW YOU FOR THAT AS WELL.

23:46 - I MEANT TO ASK JUST BEFORE WE

23:48 - STARTED THERE IS A MONUMENT ON

23:50 - THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COPSE OF

23:51 - TREES WHICH IS DIRECTLY IN

23:52 - FRONT OF US PROBABLY WHAT A

23:54 - QUARTER OF A MILE MOST. THERE

23:56 - IS A NORTHERN MONUMENT. THE

23:58 - SURPRISE THERE IT'S UNSANITARY

23:59 - RIDGE. OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T

24:01 - REMEMBER THE REGIMENT,

24:02 - BUT IT HAS ON THE MONUMENT IT

24:04 - TO PICTURE THIS AREA WHERE

24:05 - WE'RE STANDING THEY'RE

24:06 - CONFEDERATES RIGHT HERE AND

24:08 - THEY ARE SURRENDERING

24:09 - I SAY WHAT HAD TO BE JULY 3RD,

24:11 - BUT THE FACT IT'S STILL A

24:13 - SECOND WE OFTEN OVERLOOK

24:15 - ATTACK OF EVEREST RIGHTS

24:16 - GEORGIA BRIGADE WHICH WENT

24:17 - RIGHT BY THE COURTHOUSE,

24:19 - THE CEMETERY RIDGE OF THE UNION

24:21 - LINE AGAIN DIRECTLY IN FRONT TO

24:23 - MOVE AND THEY THEREFORE IT WAS

24:25 - REPULSED AND MANY OF THOSE

24:26 - GEORGIAN SAY STATE RIGHT HERE

24:28 - AND THAT MOMENT, THIS CAPTURED

24:30 - ON I MIGHT EVEN GET UPS HEART

24:32 - THAT I CAN REMEMBER,

24:33 - I'M SURE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF

24:35 - OUR VIEWERS RIGHT NOW RAISING

24:36 - THEIR HAND TO THEIR EXACT

24:38 - PROBABLY TYPE IN WE WILL GET IT

24:40 - FOR AND JUST

24:42 - A MOMENT THAT IS I 3RD BIGGEST

24:43 - STARS THAT WE WERE AT MOSTLY

24:45 - TALK COULD YOU FOR US DESCRIBE

24:47 - WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS BUILDING

24:48 - AND TO THE IMMEDIATE AREA HERE

24:50 - SURE.

24:51 - BOTH ON THE SECOND AND THE

24:52 - 3RD THIS

24:53 - PROPERTY TREMENDOUS TREMENDOUS

24:56 - BACK AND FORTH FIGHTING ON JULY

24:58 - SECOND JULY 3RD.

24:59 - WE SEE ASSAULT IN THE 3RD PICK

25:01 - ITS DIVISION, VIRGINIANS.

25:03 - MOVING ACROSS THIS ENTIRE

25:04 - PROPERTY. THIS IS KIND OF WHERE

25:06 - THE VIRGINIANS GET TO.

25:07 - BEFORE THEY KIND OF PIVOT AND

25:09 - START TO MOVE UP TOWARD THE

25:10 - COPSE OF TREES, SO IT'S KIND OF

25:11 - A TURNING POINT

25:13 - FOR THEM. BUT THIS IS AN ICONIC

25:14 - PLACE IN THE LANDSCAPE

25:16 - AND BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION

25:18 - JUST ON THE

25:18 - EMMITSBURG ROAD. THIS IS ABOUT

25:21 - WHERE MOST OF THE

25:23 - CASUALTIES WOULD HAVE STARTED

25:24 - TO TAKE PLACE THAT THE SMALL

25:27 - CASUALTIES FROM FROM MUSKETS

25:28 - AND RIFLES THE CONFEDERATES AS

25:30 - THEY'RE ADVANCING ACROSS THIS

25:31 - FIELD. THEY HAVE THE FIELDS

25:33 - APPEAR APPEAR TO BE OPEN BUT

25:35 - FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO VISITED

25:36 - GETTYSBURG BEFORE YOU KNOW THAT

25:38 - THEY'RE ROLLING SWALES IN

25:39 - PLACES WHERE SOLDIERS CAN

25:40 - ACTUALLY SEE COVER DURING THAT

25:42 - FIRST PART OF THE ADVANCE THEY

25:44 - HIT THE EMMITSBURG ROAD THINGS

25:46 - TURN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT BECAUSE

25:47 - YOU COME WITHIN RANGE OF THE

25:49 - SMALL ARMS FIRE. SO IT'S HERE

25:51 - THAT WE SEE A LOT OF

25:52 - CASUALTIES. BOTH ON JULY 2ND

25:54 - AND ON JULY 3RD, THE HOUSE

25:56 - ALSO TAKES. SOME ARTILLERY FIRE

25:59 - DAMAGE OBVIOUSLY SMALL ARMS

26:01 - FIRE DAMAGE. THE YOU KNOW THE

26:04 - PROPERTY, THE WHEAT FIELDS

26:05 - AROUND THE KID ORY HOUSE OR

26:07 - DESTROY THEIR TRAMPLED UPON

26:09 - KIND OF THAT YOU KNOW THE USUAL

26:10 - STORY THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM

26:12 - FROM THE ROSE FARM AS WELL FOR

26:14 - BUT DESPITE ALL OF THAT.

26:16 - GEORGE OR I'M SORRY NICHOLAS

26:18 - COULD WORRY IS ABLE TO BALANCE.

26:20 - HE HAS

26:21 - ENOUGH MONEY AGAIN INVESTED IN

26:23 - LAND AND I GUESS THROUGH HIS

26:25 - PUT YOUR BUSINESS THAT AFTER

26:27 - THE BATTLE, HE IS ABLE

26:28 - TO RECOUP THE REPAIR HIS

26:30 - LOSSES. I DON'T THINK HE

26:31 - ACTUALLY RECEIVED THAT MUCH

26:32 - FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

26:34 - AT ALL. BUT HE IS ABLE TO

26:36 - REPAIR HIS HOUSE TO GET THE

26:37 - FARM BACK UP

26:38 - AND WORKING AND HE ACTUALLY

26:41 - TURNS AROUND AND HE STARTS

26:42 - SOLICITING HIS NEIGHBORS WHO

26:44 - HAVE ALSO SUFFERED

26:45 - DURING JULY SECOND IN JULY 3RD

26:47 - FROM ARTILLERY FIRE FROM

26:48 - SOLDIERS TRAMPLING THEIR THEIR

26:50 - CROPS

26:50 - AND SUCH AND HE SAYS ALL YOU

26:52 - KNOW TAKE THAT OFF YOUR BY YOUR

26:53 - PROPERTY FOR YOU

26:54 - AND SO HE END UP ACQUIRING

26:56 - ANOTHER

26:56 - 66 ACRE TRACT ACROSS THE

26:59 - EMMITSBURG ROAD THAT INCLUDES

27:00 - WHAT IS NOW.

27:01 - THE SIDE OF THE VIRGINIA

27:02 - MEMORIAM ICONIC LANDSCAPE.

27:05 - HE TURNS TO WILLIAM BLISS WHO

27:07 - HAS A PROPERTY JUST ON THE

27:08 - OTHER SIDE OF THE EMMITSBURG

27:09 - ROAD OVER MY LEFT HAND SHOULDER

27:11 - HERE AND HE SAYS

27:13 - MISTER BLISS I'LL TAKE THAT

27:14 - LAND OFF YOUR SHOULDER, YOUR BY

27:16 - HANDS FOR YOU SO HE REQUIRES

27:17 - THE BLISS PROPERTY AND SO AFTER

27:19 - THE WAR, HE GOT OVER

27:21 - 500 ACRES. HE HAS OVER

27:23 - 500 ACRES TO HIS NAME JUST IN

27:25 - THIS AREA AND HE OWNS SOME OF

27:27 - THE MOST ICONIC PARTS OF THE

27:28 - GETTYSBURG BATTLEFIELD. SO HE'S

27:31 - DOING PRETTY WELL. I SHOULD

27:32 - MENTION THAT NOT ALL IS A HAPPY

27:34 - STORY FOR THE KID ORY FAMILY.

27:36 - NICHOLAS HIS BROTHER GEORGE.

27:38 - IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF 9 WHITE

27:40 - MALES WHO WAS TAKEN PRISONER BY

27:42 - THE CONFEDERATE ARMY, WE DON'T

27:44 - OFTEN THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE

27:45 - THINK ABOUT CONFEDERATES COMING

27:47 - UP IN THE PENNSYLVANIA OF

27:48 - COURSE WE'VE HEARD THE STORIES

27:49 - OF THEM KIDNAPPING AFRICAN

27:51 - AMERICANS TAKING THEM BACK INTO

27:52 - SLAVERY. BUT THERE WERE 9 WHITE

27:55 - MEN WHO WERE CAPTURED FOR THE

27:56 - CHARGES. WELL FOR SOME OF THEM

27:59 - THEY REPOST MASTERS ON THEY HAD

28:01 - SOME KIND OF

28:01 - OFFICIAL JOB FOR GEORGE HIS SON

28:04 - HAD SERVED IN THE FEDERAL ARMY.

28:06 - AND HE HAD DESERTED HE COME

28:08 - BACK AND GEORGE SUPPOSEDLY WAS

28:10 - RETURNING

28:10 - FROM BALTIMORE, A CARRIAGE OR

28:14 - SOME PIECE OF FARM EQUIPMENT

28:15 - AND HE WAS COMING BACK UP FROM

28:17 - BALTIMORE WEARING HIS SON'S

28:18 - FEDERAL JACKET,

28:20 - MAYBE NOT THE SMARTEST THING TO

28:23 - AND HE WAS TAKEN PRISONER, HE

28:24 - SENT DOWN TO LIBBY PRISON.

28:26 - ENRICHMENT HE SENT TO SALISBURY

28:27 - PRISON IN NORTH CAROLINA.

28:29 - HE RETURNS IN MARCH OF 1865.

28:32 - SO HE'S IN PRISON FOR A LONG

28:34 - TIME IT TO YOU VERY VERY

28:37 - DIFFICULT PRISONS IN

28:39 - THE CONFEDERACY HE IS SO

28:40 - WEAKENED BY THE TIME HE

28:41 - RETURNED HE CONTRACTED

28:42 - PNEUMONIA AND HE DIES WITHIN A

28:44 - FEW DAYS OF COMING BACK TO

28:45 - GETTYSBURG SO IT'S KIND OF A

28:47 - SPLIT STORY FOR THE CATEGORIES,

28:48 - NICHOLAS, HE DOES PRETTY WELL

28:50 - FOR HIMSELF, GEORGE IT'S A VERY

28:52 - TRAGIC AND AGAIN

28:53 - VERY UNHEARD OF FOR OVERLOOKED

28:55 - STORY OF ONE OF THESE THESE

28:57 - MALES WHO IS AND LOSES

28:59 - BASICALLY EVERYTHING AS A

29:00 - RESULT OF IT.

29:03 - SO WHAT ABOUT MY FINAL

29:05 - QUESTION.

29:06 - DID THE DOORS GET ANY MONEY

29:08 - FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

29:09 - I DON'T THINK THEY GOT A I

29:11 - ASSUME JUST BECAUSE OF HER

29:13 - POSITION OF THEIR OF THEIR

29:15 - HOUSE HERE THAT MAY BE SOME

29:16 - ARTILLERY SHELLS, YOU KNOW

29:18 - COULD HAVE CAUSED DAMAGE TO THE

29:19 - HOUSE THEY COULD HAVE SAID

29:20 - WE'RE FEDERAL BUT THERE ALSO IN

29:22 - THE LINE OF CONFEDERATE

29:23 - ARTILLERY. SO I I CAN'T

29:25 - REMEMBER HOW MUCH THEY GOT, BUT

29:26 - IT WASN'T SUBSTANTIAL.

29:28 - I THINK AGAIN IT WAS THE FACT

29:29 - THAT NICHOLAS HAD ALL OF HIS

29:30 - HIS MONEY TIED UP IN LAND AND

29:32 - HE I KIND OF THIS

29:33 - YOU KNOW THIS EXTRA BUSINESS

29:34 - GOING ON HE WAS ABLE ABLE

29:36 - TO RECOUP ONE OF THE IRONIC

29:38 - PART THOUGH OF NICHOLAS

29:39 - CATEGORY STORY.

29:40 - IS THAT HE MAKES HIS LIVING

29:41 - OFF OF LAND. HE'S

29:42 - KIND OF YOU KNOW AGAIN HE'S

29:43 - LIVING THE AMERICAN DREAM HE'S

29:45 - WORKED HIS WAY UP AS A YOUNG

29:46 - IMMIGRANT COMING HERE.

29:47 - ACQUIRING ALL THIS MONEY, A

29:49 - SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN HE'S

29:50 - INDEBTED TO NO ONE. AFTER

29:53 - THE WAR. HE'S ACQUIRED THE

29:54 - WILLIAM PLUS PROPERTY AS I

29:55 - SAID, AND IN THE 1870'S, HE'S

29:58 - OUT THERE. ON A TRACTOR THAT'S

30:00 - BEING PULLED BY A COUPLE OF

30:01 - COLD SAID HE'S CUTTING THE

30:03 - GRASS ON THE PLUS PROPERTY.

30:05 - AND ONE OF HIS CALLS I GET

30:07 - SCARED BY THE NOISE

30:08 - AND THROWS THE TRACTOR NICHOLAS

30:10 - ACTUALLY FALLS INTO THE STEEL

30:12 - BLADE OF THE TRACTOR HIS LEG IS

30:14 - SEVERED ITS ALMOST COMING

30:15 - COMPLETELY OFF HE LIVES OUT IN

30:17 - THE FIELD FOR A GOOD HALF HOUR

30:19 - BEFORE SOMEONE FINALLY HEARS

30:20 - HIM IN COMES TO HIS RESCUE AND

30:23 - HE MANAGES TO SURVIVE FOR ABOUT

30:25 - A WEEK OR SO BUT THEN HE

30:26 - PASSES AWAY. SO IT'S ONE OF

30:28 - THOSE IRONIC THINGS WHERE

30:29 - NICHOLAS COULD HENRI IS MADE BY

30:31 - THE LAND THE LAND MAKES HIS

30:33 - FORTUNES IT MAKES HIS SUCCESS.

30:34 - AND ULTIMATELY AS HIS UNDOING

30:36 - BECAUSE HE FALLS ON A PROPERTY

30:38 - THAT HE'S ACQUIRED AFTER THE

30:40 - BATTLE, YOU KNOW FROM SOMEONE

30:41 - ELSE'S AND DESTRUCTION AND

30:43 - TRAGEDY AND THAT ULTIMATELY

30:45 - LEADS TO HIS OWN DEMISE.

30:46 - WELL ACTUALLY YOU KNOW, THANK

30:48 - YOU SO MUCH.

30:53 - IT JUST REMINDS ALL OF

30:54 - US THAT THE STORIES ARE THERE

30:56 - IN THIS SO MUCH THAT WE DON'T

30:59 - GO AND I THINK IT ALWAYS COMES

31:01 - TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THAT IS

31:02 - FIRST HAVE GREATER PARTS OF

31:04 - THEIR LITTLE PET HOLES.

31:06 - THERE WE SEE SOME OF THESE

31:07 - BIGGER

31:07 - TRENDS AND A GREATER

31:09 - SIGNIFICANCE AS TO HOW THIS

31:11 - BATTLE AND IT PACKED ON PEOPLE

31:13 - CIVILIANS AND SOLDIERS, A WHITE

31:15 - BRIDE.

31:16 - REALLY AGAIN WE APPRECIATE THAT

31:18 - YOU'RE GOING TO GET AN

31:18 - OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ACTUALLY

31:20 - SOME QUESTIONS

31:21 - AND YOU AT HOME, I KNOW YOU'RE

31:23 - DYING TO TELL ME

31:25 - AS THE PICTURE OF SURGERY HERE

31:28 - AT THE COUNTRY FAR. I ALSO WANT

31:30 - TO NOTE THAT TOMORROW. WE

31:32 - ARE WITH

31:33 - SCOTT HARTLEY ACTUALLY I AND 2

31:35 - OF MY STUDENTS OR STUDENTS.

31:38 - BEEN ROY CAMERON SOUNDERS.

31:40 - INTERVIEW SCOTT HER WEIGHT ON

31:41 - THE ANTIETAM BATTLEFIELD AND SO

31:43 - TOMORROW WE BEGIN

31:44 - I SHOULD KNOW THIS UP THE TOP

31:46 - OF MY HEAD AT THE TIME TO

31:47 - RESTART WANT TO SAY IT'S ABOUT

31:48 - 9 O'CLOCK TO CHECK YOUR

31:49 - SCHEDULE CHECK YOUR SCHEDULED

31:51 - AS WELL AND THEN WE'LL SHOW

31:53 - SOME OF THE TAPE RECORDING FROM

31:55 - 80 TO AND THEN SCOTT HEART WE

31:57 - WILL BE IN PERSON IN THE FLESH

31:58 - LIVE WITH US AND PEOPLE CAN

32:00 - ASK QUESTIONS AS WELL SO

32:02 - LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING YOU

32:03 - BACK ON SUNDAY AND THEN FINALLY

32:05 - LET ME SAY THAT WE ARE VERY

32:07 - GRATEFUL TO HAVE.

32:08 - HE'S HERE WITH US TODAY FOR

32:10 - THOSE OF YOU WE

32:11 - WOULD LIKE I WANT TO SEE A MORE

32:13 - PROFESSIONAL RECORDING BECAUSE

32:14 - I'M GUARDED SALT. OUR LOVELY

32:16 - PHOTOGRAPHER TODAY, THERE'S A

32:18 - FEW AT CW I YOU KNOW WE'RE SO

32:19 - WELL SHE DOESN'T

32:20 - OFF IT IS HEATHER MILLER, SHE

32:22 - IS LAUGHING AND SHAKING HER

32:23 - HEAD, YES, NOT KNOW, YES, I DO

32:25 - IT ALL AT CW ASO.

32:27 - YOU ALL THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

32:29 - JOINING US TODAY.