Recorded 10-14-20 via Webex. Topics include: Medical assistance abortion coverage ban, state preemption of Pittsburgh gun ordinances; medical marijuana and employee drug testing; and authority-owned convention center local taxation
00:10 - >>AND NOW THE HONORABLE JUDGE
00:11 - OF THE COMMONWEALTH COURT OF
00:12 - PENNSYLVANIA. OH YEAH, OH YEAH,
00:15 - OH YEAH, ALL PERSONS
00:16 - HAVING BUSINESS BEFORE THE
00:17 - COMMONWEALTH COURT OF
00:18 - PENNSYLVANIA. DRAWING AND GET
00:20 - THEIR ATTENTION. THE COURT IS
00:22 - NOW DATING. I THINK THE KIND OF
00:24 - WELCOME AND HONORABLE COURT.
00:26 - PRESIDENT JUDGE MARY HAD 11
00:27 - PRESIDING.
00:35 - I'M ALL COURT.
00:38 - >>WE
00:38 - NORMALLY ALLOW 30 MINUTES.
00:41 - HER ARGUMENT WITH HIM DOUBLE
00:43 - THE USUAL A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE
00:46 - WE HAVE FROM COMPLICATED CASE
00:48 - OF THE MORNING.
00:49 - THE FIRST WHO WILL BE EXTENDED
00:52 - ARGUMENT.
00:59 - ON THE MOVING PARTY GUY
01:01 - MAY REPAIR. SOME OF THEIR
01:03 - ALLOTTED TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
01:06 - LEAVE LET THE COURT KNOW
01:07 - AND BAM AND WITH THAT WE WILL
01:11 - CALL THE HER ARGUMENT
01:12 - THE MORNING. I REMIND ALL
01:15 - COUNCIL THAT THE JUDGES HAVE
01:17 - READ THE BRIEF A VERY
01:18 - CAREFULLY.
01:20 - 30 MINUTES 40 MINUTES MAY FOUND
01:22 - LIKE A LOT OF TIME BUT IT GOES
01:24 - VERY QUICKLY PARTICULARLY WHEN
01:25 - YOU START GETTING QUESTIONED
01:27 - HIM. SO I BUT JEFF THAT YOU GET
01:30 - TO THE HEART OF YOUR LEGAL
01:32 - ISSUE JUST AS QUICKLY AS
01:33 - POSSIBLE. AND NOW WE WILL CALL
01:36 - HER CASE
01:37 - WHICH IS ALLEGHENY REPRODUCTIVE
01:39 - HEALTH CENTER AT ALL FOR THE
01:41 - PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF
01:43 - HUMAN SERVICES AND THE
01:45 - SECRETARY OF HUMAN SERVICE.
01:48 - IN THE CASE,
01:49 - WE CONSIDER A CHALLENGE TO THE
01:52 - FACTOR TORY BAN ON COVERAGE OF
01:53 - ABORTION SERVICES
01:55 - ARE WOMEN AND WORLD AND MEDICAL
01:57 - OF THE FILM WHICH PROVIDE
01:59 - HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE.
02:01 - THE LOW INCOME.
02:03 - A PETITION OR OR THE
02:05 - ALLEGHENY REPRODUCTIVE HELP
02:07 - CENTER AND OTHER MEDICAL
02:09 - PROVIDERS THAT PERFORM ABORTION
02:11 - SERVICES AND
02:12 - THE COMMONWEALTH. THEIR
02:13 - PATIENTS INCLUDE WOMEN ENROLLED
02:16 - IN MEDICAL
02:17 - OF THIS A PETITION OR CAN PAN
02:20 - BUT THE FACT OR TORY BAM
02:22 - ABORTION SERVICES AND THEN
02:24 - CAUGHT ON CONSTITUTIONAL.
02:27 - AND THE BAY AS ABORTION CONTROL
02:29 - ACT AND THE REGULATIONS
02:31 - PROMULGATED THEREUNDER I'M THE
02:33 - DEPARTMENT FOR HIM TO BE
02:35 - EXPENDITURE OF STATE AND
02:36 - FEDERAL FUND TO PROVIDE
02:39 - ABORTION SERVICES MEDICAL OF
02:41 - THEM, RICK 50 AM. LAUGH.
02:45 - ONE IN ARE NECESSARY TO AVERT
02:47 - THE DEATH OF THE PREGNANT WOMEN
02:49 - WOMAN. THE PREGNANCY RESULTING
02:53 - FROM RAPE OR TRADE
02:54 - THE PREGNANCY RESULTED FROM
02:57 - IN FACT A PETITION OR A 3RD.
02:59 - BUT THE COVERAGE FAN VIOLATE,
03:02 - PENNSYLVANIA, EQUAL
03:03 - RIGHTS AMENDMENT. BECAUSE THE
03:05 - MAN DENIED COVERAGE OF A
03:06 - MEDICAL PROCEDURE THAT CAN BE
03:08 - USED ONLY
03:09 - BY WOMEN ADDITIONALLY
03:11 - PETITIONER CONTEND THAT THE
03:13 - COVERAGE FAN
03:14 - BY LIFE AND FOR ME AND CUT THE
03:16 - PENNSYLVANIA CONSTITUTION
03:18 - GUARANTEE OF EQUAL PROTECTION
03:20 - BECAUSE IT RESTRICTS THE
03:22 - ABILITY OF ENDING HAVE WOMEN
03:24 - EXTRA 5 THERE RIGHT. TERMINATE
03:26 - A PREGNANCY. HEARD REQUEST THE
03:29 - COURT TO DECLARE CAMPER VAN
03:31 - COVERAGE RAN ON COM OFFICIAL
03:33 - AND WHEN YOU'RE IN THE
03:34 - UNFORTUNATE.
03:37 - AND INTERVENE OR FROM THE
03:39 - PENNSYLVANIA. HOUSE AND SENATE
03:41 - HAVE FILED
03:42 - PRELIMINARY OBJECTION SEEKING
03:44 - TO HAVE THE PETITION FOR
03:45 - REVIEW, THE MATH. THEY
03:47 - ARGUE THE
03:49 - A PETITION OR COMPLAINT DOES
03:51 - NOT SAY THE CLAIM UPON WHICH
03:53 - RELIEF AND
03:54 - BE GRANTED. AND FISHER VERSUS
03:56 - DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WELFARE,
03:58 - A PENNSYLVANIA. SUPREME COURT
04:00 - HELD IN 1985 THAT THE ABORTION
04:04 - CAN PROACTIVE NOT VIOLATE
04:06 - PENNSYLVANIA, PEOPLE RIGHT
04:07 - AMOUNT AMENDMENT OR IF THERAPY
04:10 - OF EQUAL PROTECTION.
04:12 - BECAUSE DEPARTMENT AND
04:14 - INTERVENE OR CAMP AND THE
04:15 - RULING IN FISHER IS
04:18 - THE POSITIVE. THE COMPLAINT
04:20 - MUST BE MET. IN ADDITION
04:23 - THE DEPARTMENT AND SECRETARY OF
04:25 - HUMAN SERVICES IN TANDEM.
04:27 - SUGAR LACKED STANDING. WHAT OR
04:30 - THE RIGHT OF OTHER PERSON
04:32 - THAT IS JOE WOMEN AND
04:35 - WORLD AND MEDICAL THEM.
04:40 - I HOPE I MISS
04:44 - A
04:45 - BIG HURT ON BEHALF OF THE ROUGH
04:47 - ON THEM
04:47 - SEEKING TO HAVE THE PETITION
04:49 - FOR REVIEW.
04:54 - >>THANK YOU YOUR HONOR HIM AND
04:55 - PLEASE THE COURT.
04:56 - I AM JASON SNEIDERMAN FROM THE
04:58 - BLANK ROME LAW FIRM I REPRESENT
05:00 - THE 18 SENATE RESPONDENTS IN
05:02 - THIS ACTION.
05:05 - AS WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED
05:06 - WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT OUR TIME
05:07 - UNALLOCATED AMONGST EACH OF THE
05:09 - 3 DIFFERENT GROUPS OF
05:10 - RESPONDENTS AND I HAVE ASKED
05:11 - FOR 6 AND A HALF MINUTES
05:13 - RESERVING ONE AND A HALF FOR
05:14 - TROUBLE.
05:19 - PRESIDENT JUDGE LET IT JUST
05:20 - DESCRIBED THE FISHER CASE
05:23 - CONTROLS HERE AND IT FINDS
05:25 - THIS COURT. SURE INVOLVED THE
05:27 - EXACT SAME CASE THAT THE
05:29 - PETITIONERS HAVE
05:30 - FILED HERE A CHALLENGING THE
05:32 - EXACT SAME PROVISIONS OF THE
05:33 - EXACT SAME STATUE ON THE EXACT
05:35 - SAME BASE
05:36 - EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT
05:37 - VIOLATIONS WERE LEFT THERE.
05:39 - EQUAL PROTECTION VIOLATIONS
05:41 - WERE LEFT THERE
05:42 - AND BY UNANIMOUS DECISION OF
05:44 - THE SUPREME COURT OF
05:45 - PENNSYLVANIA. THOSE CLAIMS WERE
05:47 - PROJECTED. THAT CASE REMAINS
05:49 - GOOD IS THERE IS THERE A
05:52 - DIFFERENCE IN THIS CASE
05:53 - CONCERNING STANDING.
05:55 - >>THAT THE PETITIONERS ARE
05:56 - DIFFERENT.
05:57 - >>THERE IS IN SO FAR AS
05:59 - STANDING HAS BEEN ADDRESS
06:01 - MISTER MCCLEASE WILL HANDLE IN
06:03 - MORE DETAIL AS PRESIDENT JEFF
06:05 - LEAVITT SAID THAT'S BEEN RAISED
06:06 - SEPARATELY IN THEIR FREE.
06:08 - BUT MY MORE DIRECT ANSWER TO
06:09 - THE QUESTION IS
06:10 - STANDING WAS NOT CHALLENGE IN
06:13 - THE ORIGINAL FISHER CASE IN
06:15 - 1980.
06:16 - BUT AMONG THE PETITIONERS THERE
06:18 - WERE OTHER PETITIONERS THAT
06:19 - WE'RE NOT SITUATED LIKE PEOPLE
06:21 - PORTION CLINIC PROVIDERS THERE
06:22 - WAS ALSO A TAXPAYER TO FIX.
06:25 - IN THIS CASE YOU ONLY HAVE THE
06:27 - CLINIC PROVIDES. SO IN THAT
06:29 - RESPECT IT'S A LITTLE BIT.
06:31 - SO THE FISHER COURT BYNES IN
06:33 - CONTROL OF THIS COURT CAN DO.
06:35 - THERE COULD NOT BE A WORK ON
06:37 - GROWING PAINS TO FISHER THAN
06:39 - THIS ONE PETITIONERS
06:40 - ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IN FACT A PAGE
06:42 - 10 OF THEIR OWN FREE.
06:43 - THEY STATE QUOTE PETITIONERS
06:45 - ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS COURT
06:47 - CANNOT OVERTURN FISHER, A
06:49 - CLOSE CALL. THEY THEN GO ON FOR
06:51 - DOZENS OF PAGES WITH REASONS AS
06:53 - TO WHY THIS COURT SHOULD
06:54 - OVERTURN. BUT THEY ACKNOWLEDGE
06:56 - QUITE RIGHTLY THAT IT SIMPLY
06:57 - CANNOT DO SO
06:59 - AND THIS COURT HAS LONG
07:00 - ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IT IS BOUND
07:02 - BY PRECEDENT ON THE
07:03 - PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT
07:04 - STATING THAT IT EVEN IF THIS
07:06 - COURT WALKING 2. IT IS
07:07 - POWERLESS TO OVERRULE THE
07:09 - DECISIONS FROM THE PENNSYLVANIA
07:10 - SUPREME COURT AND PETITIONERS
07:12 - OFFER NO. BASIS THAT THIS
07:15 - COURT COULD HOLD OTHERWISE
07:16 - WOULD DO OTHERWISE. AND PLEA.
07:20 - >>ONE POINT THEY MAKE.
07:22 - BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WITH THE
07:23 - DRAFT THEM FISHER ONE THOUGH,
07:25 - HOLDING A PAIR OF HER CROWD FOR
07:28 - OF SUPREME COURT CASE.
07:31 - INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH THAT WAS
07:33 - OKAY BUT. WAS.
07:36 - 3 DAVID. THE FISHER CASE BUT IN
07:39 - THAT CASE THE SUPREME COURT
07:40 - SAID THAT.
07:43 - WHEN PREGNANT WOMEN ARE SINGLED
07:45 - OUT AND PLAYED IN A CLASS THERE
07:46 - GET THE BANNER AND
07:49 - ARE THERE. JUST HEARD FROM
07:51 - EMPLOYMENT ON THE BASIS OF A
07:52 - PHYSICAL CONDITION, KILL YOUR
07:55 - 2. THEIR EFFECT. IN FACT
07:57 - THE TERMINATION PERHAPS THAT
07:59 - WAS OVERLOOKED AND PRESSURE BUT
08:00 - COULD YOU ADDRESS AFFECTED.
08:02 - >>I'D BE HAPPY TO YOUR HONOR
08:04 - AND JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION
08:06 - SARAH WAS NOT OVERLOOKING
08:08 - FISHER IN FACT IT WAS
08:09 - SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSED IN THE
08:10 - FISCHER CANYON AND IT WAS
08:12 - DISTINGUISHED BY THE FISHER
08:13 - COURT. SARAH BRIGHTMAN LAW AND
08:16 - WOULD YOU LIKE AND STILL TO
08:17 - ANSWER THE SECOND PART OF YOUR
08:18 - QUESTION.
08:20 - >>IT'S A GOOD THING WITH HIM
08:21 - AND I MEAN LOOK
08:22 - AT THAT THEY MADE THE HEART OF
08:24 - THE ARGUMENT HERE IS THAT
08:25 - PREGNANT THEY ONLY HAPPEN WHEN
08:26 - I'M. READING THAT CONDITION.
08:30 - IT'S.
08:31 - APPARENTLY EFFECT.
08:33 - THE REMAINS.
08:34 - >>YEAH WELL THERE'S A
08:35 - DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMETHING
08:38 - THAT ONLY AFFECTS ONE SEX AND
08:40 - SOMETHING THAT IS NECESSARILY
08:42 - SEX DISCRIMINATION UNDER THE
08:43 - EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT IN
08:44 - SARAH. YOU HAVE TEACHERS
08:47 - AND THERE WAS A LOCAL
08:48 - REGULATION PASSED I BELIEVE BY
08:49 - THE COUNTY MONROE COUNTY THAT
08:51 - SAID. ONCE A WOMAN TEACHER
08:54 - SHOULD YOU 5 MONTHS OF HER
08:56 - PREGNANCY. SHE MUST RESIGN OR
08:58 - BE TERMINATED. SHE WOULD BE
09:00 - GOING TO BE TEMPORARILY
09:01 - DISABLED AND UNABLE TO DO HER
09:02 - JOB THEREAFTER AND THEREFORE
09:04 - HAS TO EITHER RESIGN OR BE
09:05 - TERMINATED. A SIMILARLY
09:07 - SITUATED MALE TEACHER
09:08 - THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME DISABILITY
09:10 - THAT WOULD PREVENT HIM FROM
09:11 - WORKING FACE NO SUCH RIGHT.
09:14 - AND SO THE SIMILARLY SITUATED
09:15 - PEOPLE WANT AND ONE WOMAN WHEN
09:17 - A WOMAN. WE'RE TREATED
09:18 - DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF THE SEX
09:20 - OF THE WOMAN AND NOTHING MORE
09:22 - AND THE SUPREME COURT AND SARAH
09:23 - SAID THIS WAS QUOTE ABSOLUTELY
09:25 - AND SOLD BECAUSE OF THE
09:27 - PREGNANCY AND CONDITION BASED
09:29 - SOLELY ON THE SEX OF THE WOMAN
09:31 - TEACH. IN THIS CASE UNLIKE
09:34 - IN SARAH AND THE FISHER COURT
09:36 - SO WELL. THERE IS NO
09:38 - DISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF
09:39 - SEX HERE
09:40 - BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE
09:41 - SIMILARLY SITUATED MEN AND
09:43 - WOMEN IN THE SAME SITUATION
09:44 - OF COURSE A MAN CAN'T GET
09:46 - PREGNANT SO A MAN CAN SEEK AN
09:47 - ABORTION AN IMMUTABLE
09:49 - CHARACTERISTIC UNIQUE TO WOMEN
09:51 - THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE
09:52 - STATUTE DISCRIMINATE ON THE
09:53 - BASIS OF OUR SETS AND
09:55 - SUPPOSED TO.
09:57 - TREATING THAT WOMEN DIFFERENTLY
09:58 - BECAUSE SHE CHOSE TO HAVE A
09:59 - VOLUNTARY ABORTION. SO HERE
10:02 - WHAT FISH ARE SET WAS THE
10:03 - DIFFERENCES, NOT THE WOMAN'S
10:05 - SET.
10:07 - THE FACT THAT SHE CHOSE TO HAVE
10:08 - A VOLUNTARY PORTION THAT'S WHAT
10:10 - TREAT HER DIFFERENTLY HERE AND
10:11 - BACK TO YOU THINK IT THROUGH
10:13 - FOR A MOMENT.
10:14 - WHAT'S REALLY AT ISSUE OPEN
10:16 - FISHER AND AGAIN IN THIS CASE
10:18 - IS NOT MAY HAVE
10:19 - VERSUS WALL. IT'S WOMAN WHO'S
10:21 - AN INDIGENT WOMAN THAT CHOOSES
10:23 - CHILDBIRTH VERSUS WOMAN WHOSE
10:24 - OF INDIGENT WOMAN THAT CHOOSES
10:26 - AND OF COURSE.
10:28 - SO THE DIFFERENCE IS THE BAND
10:29 - HERE TARGETS THE COMP IN THE
10:31 - DECISION TO HAVE THAT FOR OF
10:33 - COURSE THERE IS THE CAR AND AS
10:35 - YOU RECOGNIZE PRESIDENT JUDGE
10:37 - THAT MEDICAL ASSISTANCE HERE
10:39 - COVERS ABORTIONS IN THE PLACES
10:42 - WHERE THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER IS
10:43 - AT STAKE OR INCEST OR RAPE.
10:45 - IT DOESN'T COVER OTHER.
10:47 - SO IF THIS WERE DRIVEN SOLELY
10:49 - ON THE BASIS OF THE SEX OF THE
10:50 - INDIVIDUAL, NO RUSSIANS WOULD
10:52 - BE ALLOWED FOR INDIGENT WOMEN
10:53 - BUT IN FACT SOME ARE AND
10:56 - BECAUSE THE COMMONWEALTH HAS
10:57 - MADE A DECISION TO IMPLEMENT
10:59 - ITS REGULATIONS BASED NOT ON
11:01 - THE SEX OF THE BOEING IS
11:02 - SEEKING THE ABORTION AND ON HER
11:04 - DECISION TO ABORT AT ALL.
11:06 - IF IT WERE BASED SOLELY ON HER
11:08 - SEX, NO ABORTIONS WOULD EVER BE
11:10 - COVERED FOR INDIGENT WOMEN BUT
11:11 - THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE HERE.
11:13 - IT'S THEIR DECISION TO
11:14 - VOLUNTARILY ABOARD OUTSIDE OF
11:16 - THOSE 3 EXCESS AND THAT HAPPENS
11:19 - IN LOTS OF CASES
11:20 - FOR EXAMPLE, MEDICAL ASSISTANCE
11:22 - DOESN'T COVER IN VITRO
11:23 - FERTILIZATION. I CAN ONLY BE
11:26 - AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT A WOMAN
11:27 - RECEIVED MEDICAL ASSISTANCE
11:29 - DOESN'T COVER I THOUGHT THIS
11:31 - FUNCTION THAT'S SOMETHING ONLY
11:32 - A MAN COULD RECEIVE.
11:33 - BUT JUST BECAUSE OF THE
11:34 - IMMUTABLE CHARACTERISTICS OF A
11:36 - MAN WHO WOMAN AND THAT THE
11:37 - IMPACT WILL BE FELT BY ONE OR
11:38 - THE OTHER DOESN'T MEAN THAT
11:40 - THAT'S DISCRIMINATION BASED ON
11:42 - THEIR SEX THERE COULD BE OTHER
11:43 - POLICY REASONS OR OTHER
11:45 - CONTROLLING STATE INTERESTS
11:46 - THAT DRIVE THAT OUTCOME LIKE
11:48 - THE INTEREST IN PROTECTING THE
11:49 - LIFE OF A CHILD IN THE CASE OF
11:51 - AN ABORTION. I SEE THAT ONE
11:53 - OVER MY TIME.
11:55 - SO WHAT I WOULD SIMPLY SOMEONE
11:57 - WITHIN SAY IS FISHER BINDS AND
12:00 - CONTROLS THE OUTCOME OF THIS
12:02 - COURT CANNOT HOLD OF US FOR
12:05 - THAT REASON ALONE. THE
12:06 - PRELIMINARY OBJECTIONS MUST BE
12:07 - SUSTAINED. THANK YOU.
12:12 - ALL RIGHT, WE WILL HEAR NEXT
12:14 - FROM THAT GUY.
12:22 - MAY IT PLEASE
12:23 - THE COURT I AM DAVID I.
12:27 - AND I DO REPRESENT THE HOUSE
12:30 - RESPONDS IN THIS MATTER.
12:36 - >>AND
12:36 - MOVED TO THE ISSUES ALL
12:39 - EQUAL PROTECTION AND AND THE
12:42 - NEW YORK, I'M SURE THERE ARE WE
12:44 - CAN HANDLE THAT. IN
12:46 - THIS MATTER IS NO EQUAL
12:47 - PROTECTION VIOLATION. AND WE
12:51 - MAKE THAT CLAIM BECAUSE YOU'RE
12:52 - WRONG.
12:57 - THERE COULD
12:57 - BE DISCRIMINATION. THERE NEEDS
12:59 - TO BE
13:00 - A LITTLE EARLY TO 2 OF THE
13:02 - INDIVIDUALS AND HERE YOUR HONOR
13:04 - AND MISTER SADDAM HUSSEIN.
13:06 - THEY'RE SIMPLY ARE NOT
13:08 - SIMILARLY SITUATED INDIVIDUALS.
13:12 - PREGNANT WOMEN ARE NOT.
13:14 - SIMILARLY SITUATED MEN WHO
13:16 - CANNOT GET PREGNANT AND BECAUSE
13:18 - MEN CAN NOT GET PREGNANT.
13:20 - IT CANNOT BE WE REALLY SITUATED
13:23 - TO A PREGNANT WOMAN AND IN THAT
13:25 - PARKING BACK TO THIS AREA CASE
13:27 - BECAUSE IN THEIR CASE.
13:36 - THE TEACHER. WHAT THE COMMITTEE
13:39 - AGAINST BECAUSE SHE COULD GET
13:40 - PREGNANT AND THEN COULD NOT SHE
13:43 - WAS DISCRIMINATED AGAINST
13:44 - BECAUSE AND WERE ALLOWED TO
13:46 - KEEP A JOB.
13:48 - WHEN WE RETURN TO STABILITY AND
13:50 - WHEN
13:53 - WE CAN ENDURE THAT THERE IS NO.
13:56 - SIMILARLY
13:58 - WEIGHTED A SITUATION HERE AND
14:01 - THEREFORE WE ARE WE DON'T HAVE.
14:04 - 2 PEOPLE PROTECTION.
14:06 - ISSUE AND YOUR HONOR WE ALSO
14:08 - WANT TO POINT OUT THAT.
14:12 - WHAT WHY ARE WE REALLY TALKING
14:13 - ABOUT WE GO BACK
14:17 - TO THE.
14:18 - >>CLASSIFICATION ISSUE WHICH IS
14:20 - SOMETHING WE ALWAYS LOOK AT
14:24 - PEOPLE PROTECTION PAY FOR.
14:27 - DON'T WE IS THERE A CLOCK
14:29 - OCCASION BETWEEN INDIGENT AND
14:33 - NON HIM WOMEN. I KNOW YOU ARE.
14:37 - THE THERE IS NOT.
14:40 - NOT IN PENNSYLVANIA YOUR
14:42 - CURRENT CAR IN FRONT OF HIM.
14:44 - >>ALL IN THE BACK. THE CASE FOR
14:47 - MORE FOR HIS ROLE A SUPREME
14:50 - THIS IS A SIMPLE PLEA.
14:52 - A LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND IN THE
14:55 - CAR. THE MODIFIED ACROSS THE
14:57 - NATION. AND THAT CONCEPT HAS
15:00 - REMAIN COOL. IN NEED.
15:05 - FOR 3 YEARS.
15:08 - AND IN FACT THERE ARE.
15:11 - PAST SEPTEMBER. THE 11TH
15:14 - CIRCUIT IN FLORIDA.
15:17 - COREY IS NOT A
15:18 - SUSPECT COM IN THE CASE OF JOAN
15:21 - PERSON TO COVER UP. THAT WAS
15:23 - THE CASE OR BOARDING. THE.
15:29 - WHO ARE EVEN CRACKED TIME.
15:32 - THE VOTING RIGHTS
15:32 - FOR FELONS AND THE DOLANS
15:35 - ARGUMENT WAS THAT. WELL
15:37 - THE FELONS THEY CAN AFFORD TO
15:39 - HAVE THEIR FINES PAID OFF AND
15:41 - GET THEIR VOTING RIGHTS BACK.
15:42 - AND WE JUST DON'T WANT CAN NOT
15:44 - AFFORD TO GET THERE THEIR
15:45 - FINES. THEY WILL AND GET
15:47 - THEY'RE GOING TO FIGHT BACK.
15:48 - SO.
15:49 - WHAT THEY ALL PART OF THE ISSUE
15:52 - THAT CREATED THEM.
15:55 - THE COURT.
15:59 - THEY SAY PARKING BACKED ROAD
16:01 - MAP. AND SO YOU KNOW
16:04 - POVERTY OR I BELIEVE THAT YOU
16:06 - WILL WORK. WELL A LOT
16:08 - OF THEM. WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE
16:12 - HERE YOU ARE.
16:15 - >>THE CLASSIFICATION BE TRAIN.
16:19 - AND
16:19 - AGAIN WOMEN. THOSE WOMEN THAT
16:21 - TO UNDERGO.
16:24 - TO TERMINATE THEIR PREGNANCY
16:26 - ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY FROM
16:27 - ENDED YOUNG WOMEN
16:29 - WHO TO GO THROUGH A FULL TERM.
16:38 - >>WHILE THAT MAY BE A
16:39 - A DIFFERENCE. CHOICE
16:45 - WELL ONE
16:48 - BECAUSE ONE WOMAN.
16:53 - PAY FOR AND THE
16:55 - OTHER WOMAN.
16:56 - THE NOCATEE ABOARD THE NUMBER
16:58 - FELL PAY FOR. IT'S SIMPLY
17:00 - YOUR HONOR. MATTER THAT THE
17:02 - GOVERNMENT IS DECIDING TO PAY
17:04 - FOR ONE LIFE. BUT YOU ARE
17:05 - THERE'S NO.
17:09 - THE GOVERNMENT A WAR
17:12 - TERM OF LIFE THAT TO
17:13 - YOUR HONOR I CAME OUT OF MARBER
17:16 - SAYS ROE. THEY THEY LOOKED AT
17:18 - THAT VERY ISSUE AND THEY
17:20 - SAID NO. THE GOVERNMENT IS
17:21 - ALLOWED TO PICK AND CHOOSE.
17:24 - POLICY INFORMATIONS AND THE
17:27 - GOVERNMENT IS ALLOWED TO PAY
17:29 - FOR THE POLICY TERMINATION
17:31 - BETTER IT IS
17:33 - YOU ARE OUR VALUABLE AND
17:34 - VULNERABLE FOR SOCIETY AND IT
17:37 - DOESN'T HAVE I PAID FOR
17:39 - HOPEFULLY THE TERM NATIONS THAT
17:41 - IS REJECTED BEING ALL GOOD FOR.
17:47 - >>AND WHAT THE POLICY
17:48 - DETERMINATION HERE. WELL YOU
17:50 - ARE GOING TO KNOW.
17:53 - ABOUT THE TERMINATION IS
17:55 - YOUR HONOR THAT THIS IS THE
17:57 - PENNSYLVANIA.
18:04 - I ALWAYS CHOSEN TO
18:05 - NOT NEW. THEY ARE. ONE THING
18:09 - FOR ABORTION. I THINK
18:10 - THE POLICY I WOULD BE A LITTLE
18:13 - COMMON LOW.
18:15 - HE'S MAKING A PUB IN THE FISHER
18:17 - COURT GO FURTHER
18:18 - THAN THAT.
18:22 - COURT WENT FURTHER THAN THAT
18:23 - THEN AFTER
18:24 - BUYING THE.
18:25 - >>A GROUP NEW STANDARD THING
18:27 - THERE WAS NO FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT
18:28 - IN THERE. AND NO THE BACKLASH
18:31 - LOOK AT THE INTERMEDIATE
18:32 - SCRUTINY HAS BEEN SAID WHAT THE
18:34 - GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST.
18:36 - AND THE SUPREME COURT SAID THE
18:37 - STATED PURPOSE OF THE ACT OF
18:39 - THE PRESERVATION
18:40 - OF LIFE AND FURTHER IN THEIR OF
18:42 - THE COMMONWEALTH HAD MADE A
18:43 - DECISION TO ENCOURAGE THE BIRTH
18:45 - OF A CHILD IN ALL SITUATIONS.
18:47 - ACCEPTANCE WHERE ANOTHER LIFE
18:49 - WOULD HAVE TO BE SACRIFICED TO
18:51 - IT NOT JUST EVEN THE BUT
18:52 - THAT BUT THE POLICY ISN'T THE
18:54 - FUNDING QUESTION ALONE, THE
18:56 - POLICY OF THE PRESERVATION OF
18:58 - LIFE AND HAS THAT CHANGED IN
19:02 - A STATUE OR ACT. AND THE FISHER
19:05 - CASE.
19:10 - FOR HER BRAVERY THERE THAT THAT
19:12 - WOULD BE MY MY WELL.
19:16 - THE SUPREME COURT ALSO AND.
19:18 - I HAD THE PERMIT IN.
19:21 - THE PRESERVATION OF LIFE IS A
19:23 - VALUABLE BALL CONSIDERATION AND
19:25 - THAT HAS NOT CHANGE.
19:28 - IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST 3040
19:30 - YEARS AND TODAY AND HE'S STILL.
19:34 - BY 4. WE BELIEVE THE.
19:38 - WE WILL OF THE PEOPLE EXPRESS.
19:43 - AND I SEE
19:44 - THE EYE I SEE THAT MY PROBLEM.
19:51 - ALL RIGHT WE WILL
19:52 - HEAR NEXT FROM A CLUE. BEHALF
19:58 - >>THANK YOU GOOD
19:58 - MORNING BY THE BAKRIES I'M
20:00 - DEPUTY COUNSEL PART IN THE
20:02 - SERVICES THAT REPRESENT
20:04 - THE ARMY HUMAN SERVICES
20:06 - RESPONDED IN THIS MANNER.
20:07 - I'M NOT JUST IN TIME WHEN BO
20:09 - BY NAME. THE METS ARE IN FAR AS
20:12 - SOME IN THIS ROOM THAT MISTER
20:13 - KNIGHT HOME AND WHEN YOU
20:15 - RECALL.
20:17 - ALL RIGHT FIRST WE CAN WE CAN
20:20 - MAKE AN ARGUMENT OR THE MARINE
20:22 - PROTECTION CHALLENGING BECAUSE
20:24 - HER STANDING TO BRING
20:25 - THIS ACTION AND BEFORE THIS
20:27 - COURT REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE
20:28 - LAW.
20:31 - A STORY. WILL BE HIDDEN COSTS
20:34 - TO SHOOT THEIR OWN
20:35 - CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS IN THIS
20:37 - MATTER INSTEAD, WE'RE VERY
20:40 - CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF
20:41 - OUR NAME AND MANY KIDS, I'M
20:45 - WOMEN WHO MAY BE THINKING NOW
20:47 - MAYBE PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE.
21:11 - >>MOST RELATIONSHIP. A 3RD
21:13 - PARTY QUESTION THIS CASE.
21:16 - MAY NOT BE ELIGIBLE WOMEN.
21:21 - MY WAY THAT THAT RELATIONSHIP.
21:24 - THEY HAVE TO SHOW THAT
21:25 - THE ENJOYMENT OF THE RIGHT BY
21:27 - HER PARTY IN SHOULD WAIT
21:30 - FELL OFF. WITH ME YET TO BE
21:33 - THAT BE A PROVIDER WHICH IS TO
21:36 - ENGAGE. THE
21:37 - SECOND PIECE WE HAVE TO SHOW
21:39 - HIS GAME. THERE IS SOME KIND OF
21:41 - HURTS WHICH HAMPERS YOU'RE
21:44 - GOING THE OTHER 3RD PARTY AND
21:47 - TO BRING THIS ACTION ON THEIR
21:48 - OWN BEHALF.
21:52 - MY LIFE.
21:53 - >>AND MY MY CONCERN IS WHETHER
21:56 - OR NOT THERE.
21:57 - THE INDIVIDUAL.
22:00 - AND THEN
22:01 - THOSE BRING THAT BACK AND
22:02 - WHETHER THEY HAVE THE FINANCIAL
22:04 - MEANS THERE ARE YOU SAYING THAT
22:05 - THERE
22:05 - WERE INDIVIDUAL. WELL WITH THIS
22:08 - ACTION COME BEFORE THE COURT.
22:12 - AND THEN A FOLLOW-UP
22:14 - TO THAT IS THERE A DISTINCTION
22:16 - BETWEEN THE 2 ORGANIZATIONS AND
22:18 - THE POSITION THAT BROUGHT THE
22:20 - ACTION IN FISHER.
22:24 - >>I CAN GET INTO THE TRUE PART
22:26 - OF YOUR QUESTION. THE.
22:32 - IN 7 MONTHS. THERE HAVE BEEN
22:34 - CASES, I'M CASE A LOT
22:37 - BEFORE COURTS BY WINNING
22:39 - CHALLENGING ABORTION
22:40 - RESTRICTIONS.
22:42 - THESE PEOPLE ACROSS THE
22:44 - COUNTRY AND THE INCLUDING THE
22:45 - FISHER CASE WHICH WE'RE HERE
22:47 - WE'RE TRACKING HERE EARLIER
22:48 - TODAY AND THAT YOU WILL IN
22:51 - THESE CASES ARE DIGITAL SELF
22:53 - AND YOU KNOW, AND IN GROUPS.
22:57 - CAMPERS WOMEN. YOU WILL BE
22:59 - TOO BORING. IT IS ALL IT'S ALL
23:02 - ON THE ROOM. THE ARMY IN FACT,
23:05 - THE GREEN PARTY.
23:07 - AND A NEW AND PEOPLE ARE
23:09 - INTERESTED IN PRINCIPLE.
23:11 - THEY ARE THE
23:11 - RIGHT PARTY. THE BEEN PATIENTS
23:14 - OF THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
23:23 - >>IF YOU DID YOU SAY THAT THERE
23:26 - WERE.
23:36 - I THANK YOU.
23:39 - >>COUNCIL IN
23:41 - SINGLETON TAKE THE UNITED
23:43 - STATES SUPREME COURT CASE
23:44 - DIRECTLY ON POINT IN THAT WE'RE
23:46 - WE'RE TALKING THERE ABOUT
23:48 - WOMEN PATIENTS DECISION THAT
23:51 - WAS CONCERNING ABORTION AS
23:53 - WELL.
23:55 - >>YOU GOT YOUR NUMBER ONE WITH
23:56 - WHAT YOU REGARD. THE STORM AND
23:59 - THAT SINGLE CASE
24:01 - WE LOOK AROUND WE GIVE AN
24:05 - FOUND ALL WILL BE IN THE
24:06 - MAJORITY PM AND
24:08 - THAT PROVIDERS I CAME TO HIS OR
24:11 - HER OWN CAR TO SHOW THAT THE
24:13 - MAJORITY OF BACKCOURT DID NOT
24:14 - ONLINE THAT.
24:17 - THEY ARE THE TEAM.
24:19 - WHINERS A SEARCH OF THE RIGHT
24:22 - TO THE HEART.
24:25 - >>FOR ITSELF IN NEED IN A
24:27 - GENERAL ASSOCIATION PERSIST FOR
24:29 - MENTAL HEALTH
24:29 - CASE CLEAR. WE ARE OUTSTANDING
24:31 - THROUGH SINCE THE SHUTDOWN OF
24:33 - COLLEGE YOU DISTINGUISH THAT.
24:39 - >>I AM BRITTANY LES. TIONS
24:41 - CORRECTLY THAT PROVIDES.
24:45 - MANDATED THAT
24:46 - THE PROVIDERS ON THE LINE TO
24:49 - YOUR INSURANCE CARRIERS.
24:51 - WHAT
24:51 - THEY ARE WHAT THEY CHARGE THEIR
24:53 - PATIENTS INCLUDED IN ANY
24:55 - INFORMATION THAT WOULD HAVE
24:55 - BEEN PRIVATE INFORMATION ALL OF
24:59 - THEIR PATIENTS.
25:03 - THE CO-OWNER RICK RANCH KEEN TO
25:05 - ASSERT THE
25:06 - PRIVACY RIGHTS OF THEIR
25:08 - PATIENTS IN THAT CASE THAT
25:09 - PRECEDE WHICH WILL WHAT YOU
25:10 - READ.
25:13 - AND REALLY WITH DIRECT
25:15 - THAT PROVIDERS
25:16 - THE RIVER PAID 10 NO IDEA THE
25:18 - REGULATION CAN JUST YOU KNOW I
25:21 - HEAR A THING YET TO A CERTAIN
25:23 - AND RUN SMEAR. THEY CAN'T
25:26 - REPLACE MISTER CRUZ I WAS TRIP.
25:29 - THE SECOND
25:29 - PIECE IS THAT WOULD BE.
25:33 - RIGHT ENJOYED BY 3RD PARTY, THE
25:35 - PRIVACY INTERESTS.
25:38 - IT'S STRICTLY DOWN ALL WITH THE
25:41 - PROVIDERS INTEREST
25:42 - AND PROTECT INFORMATION.
25:47 - THE PRIVATE INFORMATION OF THE
25:48 - PATIENTS. THAT'S NOT THE
25:50 - SITUATION HERE. HERE
25:53 - WE HAVE
25:55 - IT BE IF THE RATE BE EMPLOYED
25:57 - BY HER PARTY BEING PATIENT
25:59 - BEING. THERE PROTECTION FORCE.
26:03 - THERE IS NOTHING IT'S.
26:06 - BUILDUP
26:08 - WIRES ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE
26:09 - SERVICES THAT I NEEDED TO KNOW
26:12 - RESTRICTION. BY THE STATUTE
26:14 - CALLED HER A LIAR.
26:17 - >>AND PART OF WHAT THE
26:19 - PROVIDERS SAYING THAT, ALTHOUGH
26:21 - THEY ADMITTED THAT
26:23 - THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY
26:24 - KIND OF FINANCIAL LAW
26:26 - AND THAT THEY DO PERFORM PROPER
26:29 - IN 95% OF THE THE ABORTION
26:31 - AND THEREFORE IT APPEARS ON THE
26:33 - FACE THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR
26:36 - FINANCIAL SUPPORT BY BRINGING
26:37 - THIS ACTION AS OPPOSED TO
26:39 - REALLY SUPPORTING THE RIGHT OF
26:41 - THE WOMEN.
26:42 - >>YOU YES TRYING TO GET IT IN
26:46 - THE SENSE THAT AND WHAT THAT
26:48 - SHOWS IS THAT THEY ARE NOT NEW
26:51 - ZONE OF INTERESTS.
26:54 - >>THE GOOD
26:54 - THAT THESE CONSTITUTIONAL
26:56 - RIGHTS ARE SEEKING TO ATTACK
26:57 - NORTH KOREA KEPT GETTING
26:59 - FURTHER AGREE. WE'RE TOLD HE
27:01 - READ THAT THE JURY AND THE
27:02 - SUBSTANTIAL.
27:04 - THEY HAVE A DIRECT AND
27:06 - IMMEDIATE INTEREST IN
27:07 - THIS LITIGATION. WE HAVE IN THE
27:09 - COUNTRY, THE RICHEST CANNOT BE
27:11 - REMOTE END OF
27:12 - THE YEAR. IT CANNOT BE WITHIN
27:14 - THE ZONE OF INTEREST TALKING
27:15 - PROTECTED. A CONSTANT PARADE
27:18 - PERMIT THEY ARE PEOPLE BEING
27:19 - THE KEY. OBVIOUSLY THE TIME
27:21 - RESOURCES FOR ME OR NOT.
27:27 - INTERESTS WILL BE PROTECTED BY
27:28 - THE COURT ACTION PROVISIONS OF
27:30 - THE CONSTITUTION.
27:32 - I SEE THAT I AM OUR TIME IN
27:34 - SUMMATION OF THE QUESTION I
27:36 - BECAME THE REPORT WRITTEN US
27:38 - EARLY HOWEVER, THE JACK WITH
27:40 - YOUR GUEST JUST WITH YOU.
27:42 - THE PROPERTY BEST
27:44 - PARTY. SIR WHY LEASH AN
27:45 - OVERPOPULATED AND HIS WORK
27:48 - THROUGH LESLIE BEING VIOLATED
27:49 - IN THIS CASE AND THE OLD ONE
27:51 - ABORTION SIR.
27:54 - >>WHEN YOU WHAT THE DEPARTMENT
27:55 - OF HOME.
27:58 - THE REQUEST BY THE PETITIONER
28:00 - STORM AND THE PUCK HIT HIM.
28:02 - AND INDIVIDUAL WOMEN. WE WILL
28:06 - NOT DO BETTER.
28:14 - THE HALF OF THE TICKET.
28:16 - I'M NOT SURE THAT YOUR NAME.
28:24 - >>PLEASE THE COURT.
28:27 - WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS COURT
28:29 - CANNOT OVERTURN FISHER. WHAT
28:31 - THIS COURT CAN DO AND
28:33 - COULD DO. RIGHT AT THE CANYON
28:36 - EXPLAINING WHY FISHER WAS
28:37 - WRONG. WHEN IT OFF OR ON
28:40 - PENNSYLVANIA TO GIVE MORE
28:42 - COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH COVERAGE
28:44 - TO MADAM BUT NOT TO WOMEN AND
28:47 - THEY FOUND THE SCHOOL.
28:48 - >>COUNCIL JUDGE SAFELY HERE
28:49 - HAVE A QUESTION I NEED TO ASK
28:51 - YOU RIGHT UP SON. YOUR LINE IN
28:53 - YOUR. A
28:55 - NEW CLEANING. YOU
28:58 - SEQUEL LEAVE WHICH WILL
28:59 - INVALIDATE ROOM. THE COVERAGE
29:02 - BANS ABORTION LIMIT IN
29:04 - ITS ENTIRETY.
29:08 - IF YOU REQUESTED BELIEVE CAN
29:10 - PUT IN ALL THE EXPENDITURE OF
29:12 - THE
29:12 - STATE PLANS AND SHE SAID THAT
29:14 - EVERY 10 FOOT LOT
29:15 - MORE LIKELY WE'LL CHANGE OUR
29:20 - FOR HOME.
29:24 - NEITHER THE COURT NOR THE
29:26 - PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT.
29:28 - >>HAS
29:31 - INVALID THE FEDERAL LAW.
29:34 - AND SO THE HEIGHT OF THE WOMEN
29:36 - WHO STAY
29:37 - IN PLACE.
29:38 - >>BUT WHY BEST GOALIE FOR THE
29:39 - USE OF STATE FUNDS.
29:43 - >>REALLY FOR THE ENTIRE
29:44 - A SECTION 30 TO 15 SEASON J.
29:48 - BECAUSE IT ON THE PARADE HAS A
29:51 - NEW WORLD
29:52 - AND ELIMINATING THOSE
29:54 - PROVISIONS WOULD NOT BE IN ANY
29:56 - WAY HISTORY.
30:01 - FROM BEING USED FOR ABORTION
30:03 - OUTSIDE OF THE VERY NARROW
30:04 - CIRCUMSTANCES YOU MENTION.
30:08 - EVEN IS.
30:10 - WITH AN ARGUMENT THAT IT
30:12 - COULD BE A NEW BORE HOLE TO
30:14 - HOLE AFTER 3215 C N J
30:17 - OUR HEART, A BROAD
30:19 - SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND THERE
30:21 - ARE 2 SEVERABILITY.
30:28 - THE STATUE
30:28 - CURRENT CONSTRUCTION.
30:30 - PRINCIPAL, BUT WITH SO POLICE
30:32 - EVER THAT PORTION.
30:36 - >>SEEKING MEDICAL.
30:38 - TO IN VALIDATE.
30:42 - WHICH IS JUST TO JUST DEAL WITH
30:44 - STATE FUNDING. YES.
30:46 - OKAY WAS THAT ANYWHERE YOU'RE
30:48 - LEAVING US. YOUR HONOR. I
30:51 - BELIEVE ARE FREE. CLEARLY
30:54 - FOCUSED ON AND IN
30:57 - I'M MARY I TRUST OF
31:00 - OUR FREE IS THAT WHERE FISHER
31:02 - WHEN WAS NOT LOOKING AT
31:05 - STATE LAW.
31:07 - WHAT FISHER DID WRONG WAS IN
31:09 - FOCUS AND YOU CAN
31:10 - HIRE ANALYSIS ON FEDERAL LAW
31:13 - AND MARCHING IN LOCKSTEP WITH.
31:17 - COURT'S
31:17 - INTERPRETATION OF THE FEDERAL
31:19 - CONSTITUTION. THAT WAS A REALLY
31:21 - BIG MISTAKE BECAUSE I SAY
31:25 - BECAUSE AFTER ALL THE
31:26 - PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT
31:29 - I LAY IN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
31:31 - CONSTRUCTION OF THE COUNTRY ARE
31:33 - COMPETITION.
31:34 - >>I CAN NOT ALL
31:35 - COMMON FOR THE PENNSYLVANIA
31:37 - SUPREME COURT TOO.
31:41 - COURT PRECEDENT 100 FAMILY.
31:44 - EARLY WHEN YOU'RE CONTROLLING.
31:46 - I'M TROUBLED THAT ARE COMMON
31:47 - TO VOTE COMPETITION BUDGET
31:50 - PEOPLE.
31:53 - >>IT WAS A MISTAKE AND WE KNOW
31:55 - THAT WHEN WE LOOK.
31:58 - TO THE LANDS OF THE
31:59 - GUNMAN'S FACTORS GREAT YOU KNOW
32:01 - NOW WE KNOW THAT IS HOW YOU
32:03 - LOOK AT WHETHER A STATE
32:05 - CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION.
32:10 - PRODUCTION OF THE LITTLE BIT
32:11 - COOL RIGHTS AND IT'S FAIR.
32:13 - THE LAW. SO YOU LOOK AT THE
32:16 - PAST TO LOOK AT THE HISTORY.
32:18 - YOU LOOK AT THIS WASTE OF
32:20 - AUTHORITY FROM OTHER STATES
32:22 - AND YOU LOOK AT THE POLICY
32:24 - CONSIDERATIONS.
32:30 - THE PENNSYLVANIA CONSTITUTION
32:32 - WHICH HAS BEEN HERE.
32:34 - IN WALKS THAT PUTS THE FEDERAL
32:36 - CONSTITUTION WHICH DOES NOT
32:38 - AND THE TEXT OF THE EQUAL
32:40 - RIGHTS AMENDMENT, VERY BROADLY
32:42 - AND WITHOUT LIMITATION. US
32:45 - WOMEN FULL EQUALITY UNDER THE
32:47 - LAW. THE LACK OF A FEDERAL
32:48 - COUNTERPART. THE EURO
32:51 - RENDERED WE ARE LOOKING FOR
32:53 - PROTECTION ANALYSIS AN APP
32:57 - PERRY I COUNT ONE.
32:59 - THANK YOU, I'M LOOKING AT THE
33:01 - FISHER CASE AND THERE
33:03 - ALMOST 2 PAGES OF
33:04 - ANALYSIS OF THE PENNSYLVANIA
33:07 - CONSTITUTION AND THE EQUAL
33:08 - RIGHTS AMENDMENT. SO I'M.
33:10 - >>KIND OF THAT A HEAR ARGUMENTS
33:13 - THAT THEY DID NOT ENGAGE.
33:15 - IN AN APPLE THAT REGARDING THE
33:17 - PENNSYLVANIA CONSTITUTION.
33:24 - >>AND WE DO NOT.
33:33 - EARLY OVERLOOK THAT WOMEN'S
33:35 - REPRODUCTIVE CAPACITY IS AT THE
33:37 - ROOT OF SEX DISCRIMINATION
33:39 - WHICH IS WHAT THE YARRA US
33:41 - POSTED NEAR ADVOCATED THE
33:43 - CONSEQUENCE OF PICTURES
33:46 - IF THAT LEGISLATIVE
33:47 - CLASSIFICATIONS RELATED TO
33:49 - WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE CAPACITY.
33:52 - REMOVED FROM SCRUTINY UNDER THE
33:54 - E R.
33:57 - AND THIS WAS REFLECTED IN
34:00 - OPPOSING COUNSEL'S ARGUMENT.
34:03 - THEY SURE REASON.
34:05 - THE TREATMENT THAT WE RECEIVE
34:07 - UNDER MEDICAID CAN'T EVEN
34:10 - COMPARE TO THE TREATMENT OF MEN
34:11 - WERE SEEN. WHY BECAUSE MEN
34:13 - DON'T GET PREGNANT. BAKER SAYS
34:15 - PROGRAM I THINK IT HERE.
34:17 - >>IF YOU'RE TRYING TO 30 EQUAL
34:19 - RIGHTS AMENDMENT DOOR BY DICK
34:21 - RUTAN E YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME
34:22 - KIND OF A RECOGNIZED RIGHT AND
34:25 - I BUT WITH THE PICTURE COURT
34:26 - WITH THING
34:27 - WITH THAT AND YET THERE THERE
34:29 - MAY BE A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO
34:30 - THE ABORTION, BUT THEY'RE NOT A
34:32 - FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO
34:33 - GET FUNDING FOR ECTOR SIDE OF
34:35 - THAT FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT AND THAT
34:37 - THAT WAS THE THING CAN I
34:39 - THOUGHT THEY'RE MAKING IT BUT
34:40 - THEY SAID THE BASE OF THE
34:42 - THINKING HERE IN FACT THAT THE
34:44 - BOARD IF THE FUNDING.
34:47 - THAT THEY WANTED TO EXERCISE.
34:49 - RIGHT WHICH IS NOT
34:51 - WHAT THE COURT THAT WOULD NOT
34:52 - IN ITSELF A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT.
34:55 - AND I THINK THE COURT DID
34:57 - ADDRESS THAT AND AND REBUILD
34:59 - IT. ALONG THE LINE THAT'S
35:01 - MY UNDERSTANDING. YOUR HONOR
35:04 - WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE A
35:07 - RIGHT FUNDED ABORTION.
35:10 - >>WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WHAT
35:11 - WE'RE SAYING IS THAT
35:13 - IF THE COMMONWEALTH, THE FUNDS
35:15 - TO FUND THE HOME CARE. IT MUST
35:17 - DO SO
35:19 - IN ACCORDANCE GENDER EQUALITY
35:22 - PRINCIPLES THAT HAS TO DO
35:23 - SO FAIRLY AND WHO IN THE
35:26 - STATUTORY FRAMEWORK, A FAILURE
35:29 - TO COVER
35:29 - ABORTION EQUITABLY IS
35:31 - DISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF
35:33 - SEX. THE SAME AS A PART OF THE
35:35 - NEW YEAR WITH HER SON.
35:37 - >>CAN YOU ADDRESS THE ARGUMENT
35:39 - EARLIER MADE THAT MEDICAL WHO
35:40 - CANNOT COVER OTHER THINGS IN
35:42 - THE TROOPER DEPLETION OR OTHER
35:44 - MALE REPRODUCTIVE PROCEDURE.
35:47 - WHEN YOUR ARGUMENT
35:48 - ONLY WORK IF ALL OF THOSE WERE
35:50 - ALL OTHER WIFE COVERED.
35:57 - >>THIS IS MORE ANALOGOUS TO
35:58 - THE SITUATION IF MEDICAID
36:01 - COVERED TREATMENT.
36:03 - PROSTATE CANCER. BUT NOT
36:05 - UTERINE CANCER. THE OTHER SIDE
36:08 - THE JUSTICE WILL ARGUE THAT THE
36:09 - CATEGORY FOR MALE AND FEMALE.
36:12 - HERE BETWEEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF
36:13 - CANCER. THEY CAN SAY THAT'S NOT
36:15 - SEX DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE
36:17 - NOBODY'S UTERINE CANCER.
36:19 - THAT'S COVERED. MEN'S
36:21 - OR WOMEN'S. BUT THAT'S REALLY
36:22 - KIND OF
36:23 - EMPTY FORMALISM AND YOU ARE A
36:26 - DEMAND MORE SO THAN TO BE
36:28 - QUALITY THAN THAT. YOU
36:31 - HERE.
36:32 - >>IF YOU'RE MAKING IT
36:33 - SOUND LIKE. YOU KNOW ALL
36:35 - MEDICAL SERVICES SHOULD BE
36:37 - COVERAGE.
36:41 - OVERLOOKED ENTIRELY IS THAT
36:45 - WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY
36:47 - KIND OF MEDICAL SERVICE.
36:49 - >>WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MEDICAL
36:51 - SERVICE THAT GOAL. TO
36:54 - MAKE PRODUCTION AND.
36:57 - A WOMAN'S
36:58 - REPRODUCTIVE CAPACITY HAS BEEN
37:00 - USED AS THE JUSTIFICATION FOR
37:02 - DISADVANTAGING WOMEN. CREW OUT
37:05 - HISTORY. IT'S ABOUT PREGNANT
37:07 - WOMEN THIS
37:09 - GILLETT OUR CAPACITY TO THANK
37:11 - OUR CAPACITY TO WORK AND TO
37:13 - PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY HAS KEPT
37:16 - PUTTING OFF JURY HAS KEPT
37:18 - COULDN'T OUT OF LAW SCHOOL AND
37:19 - MEDICAL SCHOOL
37:21 - A FLORIDA FROM ALL KINDS
37:22 - OF OCCUPATIONS HAS PREVENTED US
37:26 - FROM GETTING AN EDUCATION HAS
37:27 - DENIED US THE RIGHT
37:28 - TO VOTE.
37:29 - >>THING THAT YOU THINK IT COULD
37:31 - BE YOUR THING THE PREGNANCY
37:32 - PRECLUDED WOMEN ENGAGING IN ALL
37:35 - OF
37:37 - WHO KNOW NO YOUR HONOR I'M
37:40 - QUICKLY THE OFFICE THAT WHAT
37:41 - I'M SAYING IS THAT WELL IT'S
37:44 - ABOUT
37:44 - THAT ABOUT.
37:46 - >>SEVERAL STEREOTYPE TO LEAVE
37:48 - SO THAT WHEN THE PRODUCTIVE
37:50 - CAPACITY.
37:51 - >>UNDERLIES A LOT.
37:54 - LEGAL DISCRIMINATION
37:56 - AGAINST WOMEN.
37:57 - >>INSTEAD BUT THAT HOWARD
38:00 - HOWARD.
38:01 - >>THAT RELATED TO GOVERNMENT
38:02 - FUNDING OF ABORTION.
38:05 - BECAUSE THAT COVERAGE AND.
38:07 - >>SINGLES OUT FOR LESS
38:09 - FAVORABLE TREATMENT. GENDER
38:11 - LINK CHARACTERISTIC. AND THAT'S
38:14 - GENERALLY TO WOMEN AND THE CUT
38:16 - A BAN IN PLACE ENORMOUS HARM
38:19 - ON WOMEN THAT IMPEDES
38:21 - THEIR ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN
38:24 - EDUCATION IN CIVIL SOCIETY
38:27 - IN HARLEM.
38:28 - >>AND NUCLEAR THING THAT MADE
38:30 - THE VERY THING THAT THE WOMAN
38:31 - TO GET PREGNANT AND THEREFORE
38:33 - BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE AN
38:34 - ABORTION IS THERE FOR DENIED
38:36 - THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK OR BE
38:38 - EDUCATED.
38:45 - CHOSE TO
38:45 - GET PREGNANT.
38:47 - >>WE KNOW THE MANY
38:50 - WOMEN'S PREGNANCY OR NOT.
38:53 - VOLUNTARY
38:55 - OLD NOT.
38:57 - >>WAY YOU CAN NOT ON KERRY
38:58 - THING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
39:00 - EXCEPTION I THINK YOU NEED TO
39:01 - GET OFF OF THE BACK IF THERE'S
39:03 - SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN RAPE
39:05 - OR INCEST THAT I THINK YOU'RE
39:06 - FINE BUT MAYBE YOU'RE
39:08 - REFERENCING THE FACT THAT IT'S
39:09 - NOT PLANNED. AND THE SAME.
39:14 - MANY UNWANTED AN UNPLANNED
39:17 - PREGNANCIES.
39:18 - >>YES, YOUR HONOR.
39:19 - >>AND HOW YOU GET AROUND COUNT
39:21 - ON 3RD DOWN TO HOW DO YOU GET
39:23 - AROUND THEN THE QUESTION THAT I
39:24 - AM AND THE SENATE COUNSEL.
39:27 - JUST AGREE THEM NOT SURE.
39:32 - THAT THEY COURT RECOGNIZED THE
39:34 - STATED PURPOSE OF THE BACK.
39:37 - WE'RE NOT AT LIBERTY TO VIOLATE
39:39 - THAT PURPOSE AND THE COURT HAS
39:42 - BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THE
39:43 - LEGISLATURE HASN'T BEEN CHANGED
39:45 - IT RECOGNIZED BY THE SUPREME
39:46 - COURT IN THE
39:47 - 50 K THAT IS THE EVEN UNDER THE
39:50 - INTERMEDIATE SCRUTINY THAT
39:51 - NIGHT COMING. I DON'T I STILL
39:54 - DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THE U
39:55 - THAT WAS THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT
39:57 - IN YOUR STRICT NEW YORK HUMAN
39:59 - BUT.
40:02 - THE PURPOSE OF THE ACT IS THE
40:03 - PRESERVATION OF LIFE THE
40:05 - COMMONWEALTH MADE A DECISION TO
40:06 - ENCOURAGE THE BIRTH OF A CHILD
40:08 - IN
40:08 - ALL SITUATIONS EXCEPT FOR
40:10 - ANOTHER LIFE WOULD HAVE TO BE
40:12 - SACRIFICED. MEANING IN THE
40:16 - EVENT OF THAT
40:17 - A POSSIBLE DEATH OF THE MOTHER
40:19 - BECAUSE OF
40:22 - A PREGNANCY AND THE OTHER 2
40:24 - SECTION 3 AND IN THAT.
40:27 - HOW CAN YOU GET
40:28 - AROUND THE STATED PURPOSE OF
40:31 - THE ACT WHEN WHAT YOU'RE ASKING
40:33 - THE VIOLENT KIDS OF THAT.
40:36 - NO YOUR HONOR THE STATE'S
40:38 - INTEREST IN THE LIFE.
40:40 - >>RELIEVE IT OF THE UP WITH HIM
40:43 - TO PROVIDE EQUITABLE HEALTH
40:44 - CARE AND THAT INCREASE CAN
40:46 - NEVER OVERRIDE
40:48 - WOMEN'S HEALTH AND LYING WHEN
40:51 - MEDICAID COVERAGE AND THEY ARE
40:54 - READY FOR CARMEN LAKER IF WE
40:56 - COUNT THE LEGISLATURE ALREADY
40:59 - TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION.
41:01 - >>THE HELP OF THE MOTHER
41:03 - AND MADE THE FAKE EXCEPT TIONS
41:05 - THAT THOSE IN THOSE CASES WHERE
41:07 - THE DEATH OF THREATENED TO THEM
41:09 - THE MOTHER BUT THAT IT WOULD
41:11 - BE FUNDED. SO THERE IS FUNDING
41:14 - FOR IT. IN
41:15 - THE ROOM, THE 5TH PICK
41:16 - SITUATION DESIGNATED BY THE
41:18 - LEGISLATURE. YOUR HONOR THAT IS
41:20 - NOT CORRECT.
41:22 - >>A SECTION 30 TO 15 CMJ DOES
41:25 - NOT.
41:27 - ONLY THE VERY NARROW
41:28 - CIRCUMSTANCES OF A BURNING THE
41:31 - PREGNANT WOMAN'S DEATH AND RAPE
41:34 - AND INCEST WE NOW KNOW WHAT WE
41:36 - DIDN'T KNOW IN
41:37 - 1985.
41:38 - >>I WILL TELL YOU COMING WHAT
41:40 - HEALTH MEAN THEN. HELPING YOU.
41:48 - HELP WEAN PHYSICAL AND
41:50 - MENTAL HEALTH. IT WAS DEFINED
41:52 - IN THE ABORTION TO PROACTIVELY
41:54 - SECTION 32.
41:58 - >>TO INCLUDE A RANGE OF
42:00 - FACTORS.
42:03 - WE KNOW NOW THAT CHILDBIRTH IS
42:05 - 14 TIMES MORE DANGEROUS THAN
42:08 - ABORTION.
42:14 - ENORMOUS DAMAGE ON WOMEN'S
42:16 - HEALTH. EVEN WHEN THEY DO NOT
42:18 - HAVE AN UNDERLYING
42:20 - HEALTH CONDITION. WE KNOW THAT
42:22 - PREGNANCY IS A TIME OF
42:23 - VULNERABILITY FOR MANY WOMEN, A
42:26 - PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH.
42:28 - ONE
42:29 - IN 4 AND HAVING BODY OR I
42:32 - MEAN YOU'RE GIVING ME THE 5TH
42:33 - PICK THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT ARE
42:34 - PART OF THE RECORD BUT.
42:36 - >>I MEAN I.
42:39 - AND PHYSICAL HEALTH OF THE
42:40 - WOMEN WHO HAVE AN ABORTION IS A
42:41 - COMPROMISE THAT WELL SO I'M NOT
42:43 - SURE THAT.
42:45 - THAT'S YOUR STRONGEST ARGUMENT
42:46 - TO GET AROUND THE A SUPREME
42:48 - COURT CASE THAT THAT RECOGNIZED
42:50 - A PURPOSE AND THAT UNDER
42:52 - ALL 3 OF THE HAT TRICK
42:55 - SCRUTINY, INTERMEDIATE CRUDE, A
42:56 - RATIONAL BASIS. IT WENT THROUGH
42:59 - A THOROUGH.
43:00 - THE BOTTOM LINE IS I THINK
43:02 - YOU'RE ASKING US TO RECOGNIZE
43:03 - THE RIGHT OF FUNDING AS.
43:05 - A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT AND
43:08 - IF YOU COULD ANSWER THAT AND
43:09 - THEN JUST THEY WHAT IS YOUR
43:11 - HARM.
43:14 - DOING LEFT AND RIGHT TO TO
43:15 - FUNDING IS A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT.
43:20 - >>UNDER THE ORDER.
43:22 - >>THE MEDICAID US.
43:27 - FOR MEN'S AND WOMEN'S
43:28 - HEALTH FOODS. I LOOK
43:32 - >>I WANT TO THANK YOU GET YOUR
43:34 - I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED WHY WE'RE
43:37 - DRESSING THAT HER I BELIEVE
43:39 - THAT FISH
43:40 - ARE ALREADY THAT AND THEY SAID
43:43 - THAT THE BASIS FOR THE THINKING
43:44 - HERE NOT SEX BUT ABORTION.
43:46 - THE MERE FACT THAT ONLY WOMEN
43:48 - ARE AFFECTED BY THIS STATUTE
43:50 - DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT
43:52 - WOMEN ARE BEING DISCRIMINATED
43:53 - AGAINST BASED ON THE BASIS
43:55 - THAT EFFECT THE EURO DID NOT
43:57 - PROHIBIT DIFFERENTIAL TREATMENT
43:59 - AMONG THE AFFECTED WHEN
44:00 - IT HERE. THE TREATMENT THAT IS
44:02 - REASONABLY AND ANNUALLY BASED
44:03 - ON PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS,
44:05 - UNIQUE TO
44:05 - ONE BACK. WE CAN'T GO BACK IN
44:08 - WHAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS
44:10 - ALREADY SAID. I DON'T
44:12 - UNDERSTAND HOW THIS ACTION IT'S
44:14 - DIFFERENT AND BEFORE YOU CLOSER
44:16 - WOULD LIKE YOU TO ADDRESS THE
44:17 - STANDING ISSUE.
44:20 - >>YES, YOUR HONOR.
44:25 - JUST
44:26 - QUICK NOTE. IF
44:28 - I LIKE. BE SURE DID NOT APPLY
44:31 - STRICT SCRUTINY. A FISHER
44:33 - R I RATIONAL BASIS AND THEN
44:36 - ALSO SAID IT WOULD SURVIVE IN A
44:38 - MEDIA SCRUTINY.
44:40 - THE RIGHT QUESTION IS THE RIGHT
44:42 - TO ABORTION WHICH YOU CAN FIND
44:44 - THEM AT ALL RIGHT. UNDER
44:45 - ARTICLE ONE OF THE
44:46 - PENNSYLVANIA CONSTITUTION.
44:49 - THE RIGHT IS PART OF THE
44:50 - PRIVACY RIGHT.
44:51 - APPLIED TO MARY SEXUALITY
44:54 - AND PROCREATION YOU SEE THAT IN
44:56 - BUT NOT DOT HERE IN THE NEXT IN
44:59 - THIS IF A CLEAR REFERENCE
45:02 - JUST EARLIER THIS YEAR THE
45:03 - PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT
45:04 - ACKNOWLEDGED THIS AND LAUGH.
45:07 - THIS IS REALLY THE COMMISSION
45:08 - WHICH I'M SORRY WE DID
45:10 - LIGHTNER GRIEF BECAUSE IT WAS
45:12 - ISSUED AFTER OR EVEN CLOSE.
45:15 - 30 TO 1096
45:17 - 11 '08 AND SIMILAR LANGUAGE CAN
45:19 - GET THIS ON A HOST OF GETTING
45:21 - IN FROM LEFT HERE DO NOT GO FOR
45:23 - 50 PM C ABORTION
45:25 - IS A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT UNDER
45:27 - PENNSYLVANIA CONSTITUTION AND
45:29 - FORTUNE. ZANDI THEY'RE SUBJECT
45:31 - TO STRICT SCRUTINY, AND IT
45:33 - CANNOT TOLERATE THAT SCRUTINY,
45:35 - TURNING TO STANDING.
45:38 - >>YOU GET A STANDING BY I'M
45:40 - SORRY I I I'M HAVING TROUBLE.
45:43 - >>FOLLOWING YOUR EQUAL RIGHTS
45:45 - AMENDMENT ARGUMENT.
45:47 - YOU I HAVE ARGUED THAT ONE THE
45:50 - LEGISLATURE 100 K TO PROVIDE A
45:53 - MEDICAID PROGRAM. THEY MUST DO
45:56 - SO FAIRLY WITH RESPECT
46:03 - AND
46:03 - THEY CANNOT AND AND TO DO IT
46:06 - FAIRLY THEY MAY NOT THE THING
46:07 - WE'RE TRAINED MEN AND WOMEN.
46:10 - HOW DOES THE PROBLEM IS WHAT WE
46:12 - HAVE. HERE A GROUP OF
46:15 - PREGNANT WOMEN AND ROLLED
46:17 - AND MEDICAID. THOSE WOMEN WHO
46:20 - CHOOSE TO TERMINATE THEIR
46:22 - PREGNANCY ARE TREATED
46:23 - DIFFERENTLY FROM WOMEN WHO
46:25 - CHEW.
46:28 - NOT TO TERMINATE HER PREGNANCY
46:29 - BUT TO GO. I PLAYED THE
46:31 - PREGNANCY TO FULL-TERM.
46:37 - VIOLATE THE EQUAL RIGHTS
46:40 - ARE PICK YOUR LANE EXACTLY HOW
46:42 - THEY MET EQUAL RIGHTS
46:43 - AMENDMENT.
46:46 - LEAD TO ONE CONCLUSION THAT
46:48 - YOU BELIEVE IN MAINLY IT
46:50 - MIGHT PROVIDE. FUNDING FOR
46:52 - ABORTION AS WELL AS PILED
46:54 - LIVERY.
46:57 - >>MEDICAL SERVICE SAYING TO ME
46:59 - REALLY NEEDED BY WOMEN
47:01 - HAS BEEN CAR OUT OF OTHERWISE
47:04 - COMPREHENSIVE COVERAGE.
47:07 - ON THE BASE IS THE REASON THE
47:09 - THE FISHER COURT DID THIS.
47:11 - THE CAUSE. FISHER SAID WELL
47:13 - THERE WE NEED PHYSICAL
47:15 - CHARACTERISTICS, ONLY WOMEN CAN
47:17 - BECOME PREGNANT.
47:21 - IF YOU CAN DISCRIMINATE AGAINST
47:23 - WOMEN BASED ON THE UNIQUE
47:25 - PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS, A
47:27 - VERY VERY PRODUCTIVE CAPACITY.
47:32 - WHAT MAKES THEM WOMEN
47:33 - AND IF YOU CAN GET LESS
47:35 - BENEFITS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS A
47:37 - UTERUS.
47:39 - HARD TO DISTINGUISH FROM SEX
47:41 - DISCRIMINATION PURE AND SIMPLE.
47:43 - I I.
47:49 - >>AND WE'RE ALL THE MEDICAID
47:51 - WELL I A CLASSIFICATION THEY
47:53 - FROM. SO YOU'RE SAYING ONE.
47:57 - AND THE
47:57 - GOVERNMENT PAPER PROGRAM
48:00 - OF HEALTH AND TURN MY PAPER
48:03 - EVERY FERVOR THAT IS RELATED TO
48:06 - A PERSON'S GENDER. I MEAN YOUR
48:09 - HONOR.
48:13 - >>SECTION
48:14 - 3215 OR DOING IS
48:17 - TAKING HOW CARVING HOW OF AN
48:20 - OTHERWISE COMPREHENSIVE SCHEME.
48:23 - A
48:23 - MEDICAL SERVICE CRITICAL TO
48:25 - WOMEN'S EQUALITY AND
48:29 - >>OKAY SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS
48:31 - ANY CAR.
48:33 - HE DEMANDED ONLY BY A WOMAN AND
48:36 - THE EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT THAT
48:38 - YOUR POSITION I WOULD NEED
48:40 - MORE FACTS.
48:40 - >>LET YOUR HONOR I WOULD NOT
48:42 - SAY AND I DON'T THINK I WOULD
48:45 - GO
48:47 - >>A PORTION OFFEND PEOPLE RIGHT
48:50 - AMENDMENT, I'M JUST HAVING
48:51 - TROUBLE PUTTING THEM ALL.
48:52 - GATHER. WELL YOUR THE CASE,
48:56 - OKAY SO.
48:59 - ABOUT 4 IN VITRO FERTILIZATION
49:01 - THAT IS UNIQUELY. YOU
49:04 - REQUIRED BY.
49:07 - >>WELL I'M JUST OUT.
49:11 - THAT'S OKAY AND IF THAT WERE TO
49:13 - COME BEFORE THE COURT THEN WE
49:15 - WOULD ENGAGE IN THAT SAME
49:17 - ANALYSIS AND WE DON'T HAVE
49:20 - THOSE FACTS BEFORE US TODAY.
49:23 - AND I'M VERY
49:24 - HOPEFUL MODEL A LOOK AT AND
49:27 - THIS GOES TO THE ARGUMENT THAT
49:29 - ACTORS IS NEW MEXICO RIGHT TO
49:31 - CHANGE VERSUS JOHNSON, THIS IS
49:33 - THE CASE.
49:34 - INVOLVING MEXICO'S EQUAL
49:36 - RIGHTS AMENDMENT. MEDICAID
49:38 - COVERAGE FAN THROUGH PORTION
49:40 - AND THE ANALYSIS THAT FAST TO
49:42 - COURT DID IS NOW ASSISTANT OUT
49:45 - COURTS
49:45 - SHOULD DO. AND THEY LOOKED AT
49:47 - WHETHER YOU ARE A GREATER
49:49 - PROTECTION THAN THE FEDERAL
49:50 - CONSTITUTION AND ANSWER THAT
49:52 - QUESTION. YES.
49:55 - THAT THE COVERAGE THAN THE LATE
49:56 - TO NEED PHYSICAL
49:57 - CHARACTERISTIC. GRAHAM. THE
49:59 - BAND FROM THE SEARCHING
50:01 - BEAUTIFUL INQUIRY. THE ANSWER
50:03 - THAT POINT YOU KNOW I'M LIKE
50:04 - THIS DOES THE COVERAGE BEGAN
50:06 - OFFERING THE DISADVANTAGE
50:08 - WOMEN. YES.
50:09 - IT WAS ALL THE PROGRAM THAT
50:11 - DOESN'T APPLY THE SAME. THE
50:13 - OTHER 2 MEN AND WOMEN, YES
50:15 - AND FINALLY IS THERE A
50:16 - COMPELLING JUSTIFICATION FOR
50:18 - TREATING MANY WOMEN
50:19 - DIFFERENTLY. NO, THE THAT
50:21 - AN ANALYSIS, THE TRULY.
50:26 - AGREE WITH
50:27 - THAT ANALYSIS AND WHENEVER
50:29 - WE'RE CAPPING A FACTOR AGAINST
50:32 - THE EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT.
50:33 - >>THE CONCLUSIONS ARE A LITTLE
50:34 - BIT DIFFICULT OF ALL I DON'T
50:36 - KNOW A CRIMINAL IN FAVOR
50:39 - OF MAN AND AGAIN WOMEN.
50:42 - DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN.
50:49 - WHO CAN TO RESPOND TO THEIR
50:51 - PREGNANCY DIFFERENTLY. WHAT
50:53 - WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT MA'AM.
50:54 - >>I HAVE TO
50:56 - COUNCIL WHAT IS THE NAME OF
50:57 - THAT NEW MEXICO CASES IN YOUR
50:59 - BRIEF. IT IS YOUR HONOR NEW
51:01 - MEXICO RIGHT TO CHOOSE VERSUS
51:03 - JOHNSON JOHNSON OK, THANK YOU,
51:09 - >>COMMENT I I KNOW YOU HAD SAID
51:13 - THAT THE. FISHER COURT DID
51:15 - NOT ADDRESS.
51:16 - HI SCRUTINY THAN I GREATLY, BUT
51:19 - I THINK AND IF THEY BECAUSE IN
51:21 - FACT IT DID. BUT IF THE TERM
51:23 - AND THAT IT IN I
51:25 - DON'T THINK THAT THE COURT
51:26 - WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU
51:27 - ABOUT THAT ABORTION IS A
51:28 - FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT THAT FISHER
51:29 - COURT DID NOT. THE STATION WAS
51:33 - WEATHER THE RIGHT TO
51:34 - HAVE FUNDING IS A
51:36 - FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT AND THEY SAID
51:38 - IT WAS NOT AND WHETHER THEY'RE
51:40 - IN THE GYM CLASS WITH THE FACT
51:42 - THAT CLASS AND THEY SAID THAT
51:44 - HAD NEVER BEEN I RECOGNIZE THAT
51:46 - THE SUSPECT CLASS. THERE GO
51:48 - THE HIGH. THE STRICT SCRUTINY
51:50 - STANDARD DID NOT APPLY WE DID
51:52 - IN
51:52 - FACT ENGAGE AND THAT ANNOUNCED
51:55 - THIS AND THAT WAS THE
51:56 - DETERMINATION WAS AN FAITH ON A
51:58 - RIGHT TO ABORTION
52:00 - FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT FOR JEWISH
52:02 - WHETHER THERE WAS A FUNDAMENTAL
52:03 - RIGHT TO FUNDING FOR WHERE'S
52:06 - THE BOTTOM.
52:07 - >>SO YOUR HONOR WE ARE NOT
52:09 - ASSERTING IN IN SAYING THE
52:10 - PROTECTIVE CLASSIFICATION A
52:13 - 3RD OF THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE
52:14 - PROTECTION ANALYSIS FOR PUTTING
52:16 - FORWARD.
52:19 - ALL RIGHT NOW SINCE THEN THE
52:20 - FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT IN QUESTION
52:22 - TO THE RIGHT TO ABORTION.
52:24 - UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION.
52:28 - >>RIGHT TO ABORTION FUNDING.
52:30 - GREAT JOB.
52:33 - YEAH.
52:33 - >>THERE ARE NO ONE IS SAYING
52:34 - THAT PENNSYLVANIA IS REQUIRED.
52:37 - OKAY FOR ABORTION CARE.
52:39 - WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT IF
52:41 - THE STATE CREATES A
52:42 - COMPREHENSIVE.
52:45 - IT MUST FUND ABORTION, FAIRLY
52:48 - AND EQUITABLY AND 2.
52:51 - ACCORDANCE WITH THE GENDER
52:52 - EQUALITY PRINCIPLE IN OUR STATE
52:55 - YOU ARE. AND IF I MAY SAY JUST
52:58 - A MOMENT OF OUTSTANDING I
53:00 - REALIZE I'M OVER MY TIME.
53:06 - UNQUESTIONABLY HAVE STANDING TO
53:08 - BRING THIS ACTION UNDER WILLIAM
53:10 - PENN PARKING GARAGE AND UNDER
53:12 - AND IN FULL. VERSUS DEPARTMENT
53:15 - OF HEALTH. IT IS THE PATIENTS
53:17 - PRIVACY INTERESTS IN HAND AND
53:19 - PULL.
53:21 - THE SURGING 5 THE
53:23 - DENTAL ASSOCIATION. CAN WE TALK
53:27 - ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
53:29 - DISTINCTION BECAUSE I DON'T.
53:30 - >>MY RECOLLECTION
53:32 - IS THAT THE INDIVIDUALS WERE
53:35 - NOT EVEN AWARE OF THE
53:36 - INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE
53:38 - MANDATED FOR THEM. THAT IS
53:40 - TO PROVIDE. AND WHILE IT IS
53:42 - STARTING LINE THERE.
53:44 - >>YOUR HONOR THEY CERTAINLY
53:45 - COULD HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE.
53:51 - COMING TO COURT
53:52 - TO SUE
53:54 - HERE THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
53:56 - OUR PROVIDERS AND PATIENTS.
53:59 - INEXPLICABLY BOUND UP.
54:01 - THE ACTIVITY THE PROVIDERS ARE
54:04 - SEEKING
54:04 - TO PURSUE. IT'S
54:08 - FREE ON KNOW IF I LIKE IT ON
54:10 - RAVEL THAT I MEAN THAT THE
54:11 - CONCLUDING VERY STATEMENT.
54:13 - >>HOW ARE THEY FOUND UP I MEAN
54:15 - WHY CAN'T THE INDIVIDUAL.
54:17 - THE DESIRE TO HAVE AN ABORTION
54:19 - COME FOR HIM.
54:22 - >>SEVERAL FACTORS HINDERING
54:23 - THAT YOUR HONOR UNIQUELY IN THE
54:25 - ABORTION CONTEXT IN THAT'S
54:27 - REALLY WHY HERE'S A HUGE BLUE
54:30 - LONG LINE OF ABORTION
54:32 - PRECEDENT.
54:34 - OVER THE PLACE AT THE STATE AND
54:36 - FEDERAL LEVELS IN WHICH
54:37 - MEDICAL PROVIDERS AND STANDING
54:39 - TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS
54:40 - OF PATIENTS. MOST RECENTLY THIS
54:43 - ISSUE WITH PART OF JUNE MEDICAL
54:45 - SERVICES TO SCHOOLS, SO ONE OF
54:47 - THE QUESTIONS THE U.S.
54:48 - SUPREME COURT. THE SITTER WAS
54:51 - THE COOL THING ABOUT HOW THE
54:52 - SINGLETON I WILL SQUARE.
54:55 - THAT IS FORCING PROVIDERS DO
54:57 - HAVE STANDING TO ASSERT THE
54:59 - INTERESTS OF THEIR PATIENTS AND
55:01 - THE REASON WHY IS THAT.
55:04 - ORSON WELLES THE IN PERSON
55:07 - THESE KSAT MAY VERY WELL BE.
55:10 - >>AND APPROPRIATE INQUIRY BY
55:12 - NOT BEING WORRY THAT OUR
55:13 - SUPREME COURT AS DIRECTOR
55:16 - ENGAGE HIM WHEN FACED WITH A
55:19 - QUESTION ABOUT STANDING.
55:20 - I HAVE TO BE IN AN INTERIM HEY
55:23 - IT'S GOING TO BE. AND COME TO
55:26 - YOUR INTEREST.
55:31 - THE RIGHT OF AN INDIVIDUAL
55:32 - WOMAN WHO CAN'T HAVE AN
55:34 - ABORTION PAID FOR BY MEDICAL
55:36 - CENTER THAT INDIVIDUAL MEET THE
55:39 - PARKING PASS.
55:43 - THE THE SECRETARY IS BACK.
55:47 - YOU DON'T HAVE. AND THE MEDIA.
55:52 - I EARN A MEDIA IRREPARABLE
55:54 - HARM.
55:55 - WELL REPERTOIRE THAT RIGHT
55:57 - FOOT. YOU DO NOT MEET THE PAN.
56:02 - FOR FANNING NUMBER ONE AND
56:04 - NUMBER 2.
56:12 - THE INTEREST YOU
56:13 - FOR YOU
56:13 - KNOW IT AND PROVING YOU HAVE TO
56:16 - SCRAMBLE TO FIND MONEY TO
56:17 - PROVIDE. ABORTION FOR
56:20 - INDIGENT PATIENTS.
56:21 - DO NOT FALL WITHIN THE TOWN OF
56:24 - THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION
56:26 - BUT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
56:30 - >>INTERESTS ARE DIRECT
56:31 - SUBSTANTIAL
56:32 - AND IMMEDIATE. IT'S DIRECT
56:34 - BECAUSE HER INJURIES ARE CAUSED
56:36 - 5 A CHALLENGE FOR HIM WE CAN
56:39 - GET REIMBURSED FOR THE MEDICAL
56:40 - CARE THAT WE PROVIDE
56:41 - SUPPORT PATIENTS. IT'S
56:43 - SUBSTANTIAL BECAUSE IT'S MORE
56:45 - THAN WE ARE TRACKING TRUTH AT
56:46 - ALL TO THIS IMPASSE. I'M SURE
56:49 - THAT WAS COMPORT WITH THE
56:50 - CONSTITUTION. WE CAN
56:52 - PUT PAID IT'S IMMEDIATE BECAUSE
56:54 - THE CAUSAL CONNECTION, YOU KNOW
56:56 - THE PROVIDERS DURING
56:57 - THE BRIDE.
56:58 - >>THERE ARE MANY PER FIGHTER
57:00 - THAT TURN PEOPLE AWAY. TO
57:03 - PROVIDE FOR HER.
57:11 - THAT IS WHAT THEY DO THEY
57:13 - PROVIDE ABORTION CARE, 95%.
57:16 - >>OF THE ABORTION CARE IN THE
57:18 - CAR WHO PROVIDED BY OUR.
57:20 - ABOARD THE PETITIONERS IN THIS
57:22 - CASE. THAT'S AN
57:25 - IMMEDIATE CAUSE CONNECTION
57:28 - OR INJURY AND THE
57:29 - CHALLENGE PROVISION THAT'S ONE
57:31 - SHORT STEP AWAY THE SAME WAY IT
57:33 - AND PARKING GARAGE. WE'RE NOT
57:35 - ELIGIBLE
57:36 - FOR COVERAGE, I'VE HEARD THAT
57:38 - WE CAN FEEL THE ABORTION CARE.
57:41 - OUR PATIENTS ARE ELIGIBLE
57:42 - FOR CARS HER JOB.
57:44 - IS THERE ANY
57:45 - CASE THERE AND WINNING HIS 8TH
57:47 - THERE ANY IS THERE ANY CAPEL
57:48 - OUT THERE IT SAYS THAT BECAUSE
57:50 - SOMEBODY'S GOING TO HAVE A
57:51 - FINANCIAL IMPACT.
57:54 - >>THIS WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO
57:55 - PROVIDE THEY PARTICULARLY
57:57 - SERVICE EAGLE STANDING.
58:01 - >>I DON'T SEE A
58:01 - DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AND IN THAT
58:04 - REGARD AND WILLIAM PENN PARKING
58:06 - REALLY
58:07 - I MEAN WELL YOU HAVE A PARKING
58:09 - DO HAVE TO SELL THEIR PARKING
58:11 - SPACES.
58:12 - I SUPPOSE IT'S UNREASONABLE TO
58:14 - EXPECT ABORTION PATIENTS TO BE
58:16 - THE ONES TO COME FORWARD TO TO
58:18 - PASS RESTRICTIVE ABORTION LAWS.
58:21 - THEY HAVE A STRONG PRIVACY
58:23 - INTERESTS AND NOT A PLAINTIFF
58:26 - IN LITIGATION. THE PREGNANCY.
58:28 - I'M LIMITED PREGNANCY AND
58:33 - WAS BEFORE THE CASE EVER GETS
58:35 - THE RESOLUTION.
58:37 - IMPORTANTLY WITH THIS COURT
58:39 - RECOGNIZED ABOUT A YEAR AGO IN
58:41 - A CASE CALLED CROC VERSUS
58:43 - DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. THERE ARE
58:44 - SAFETY AND SECURITY CONCERNS
58:47 - SURROUNDING THE WITH FEET OF
58:50 - ABORTION SERVICES THAT ARE YOU
58:53 - A UNIQUE AND NOT AMERICAN
58:56 - PROTECTION OF OUR LAWS.
59:07 - THANK YOU YOU'RE ON HIM.
59:09 - >>THANK YOU MAKE UP TO GIVE A
59:11 - CONCLUDING STATEMENT.
59:13 - >>SO WE ARE NOT SAYING THAT
59:14 - THERE'S NO UNIQUE PHYSICAL
59:16 - CHARACTERISTICS THAT COULD EVER
59:18 - JUSTIFY DIFFERENTIAL TREATMENT.
59:21 - POSSIBLY THERE IS.
59:23 - I WOULD HAVE TO SURVIVE
59:25 - EXTREMELY
59:25 - FOR PROVIEW TO ENSURE THAT IT
59:27 - WASN'T JUST THE VERY HIGH IN
59:29 - THE SKIES. HERE THE UNIQUE
59:31 - PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE
59:33 - 2 WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE
59:35 - CAPACITY. BASICALLY A CAR.
59:37 - HE FORFEITED ABOUT THIS
59:39 - AND THE BASIS FOR MUCH IF NOT
59:41 - MOST OF THE DAY SAID BEEN PAID
59:42 - TO PREVENT THAT WOULD IMPACT
59:44 - THE STARKLY RECEIVED
59:46 - COVERING ALL A MAN'S MEDICAL
59:48 - CARE NOT COVERING ALL OF
59:49 - WOMEN'S
59:50 - MEDICAL CARE CAN BE EXCUSED BY
59:53 - SAYING THAT MANY WOMEN HAVE
59:54 - DIFFERENT.
59:56 - THEY BOTH NEED HEALTH CARE IN
59:58 - 980 ERIE MOVE ANYTHING. IT'S THE
01:00 - 03.060 HEALTH CARE CAN BE A PORTION.
01:00 - 05.890 I KNOW WAY THE DISADVANTAGES
01:00 - 08.320 WOMEN BECAUSE THEY ARE WOMEN.
01:00 - 10.370 WE WOULD ASK THAT THE
01:00 - 12.760 PRELIMINARY OBJECTION. THE
01:00 - 13.450 OVERALL.
01:00 - 18.750 ALL RIGHT AND MR.
01:00 - 23.440 >>I'LL TRY TO MOVE QUICKLY
01:00 - 24.880 THROUGH A FEW WHAT I THINK ARE
01:00 - 27.150 VERY KEEN AND MISSIONS THAT WE
01:00 - 28.420 JUST HEARD OF PETITIONERS
01:00 - 28.830 COUNCIL.
01:00 - 30.540 >>NUMBER ONE.
01:00 - 32.240 >>IT'S THE FIRST COUNCIL SAID,
01:00 - 32.340 AND
01:00 - 35.240 I QUOTE RIGHT IN QUESTION HERE
01:00 - 36.730 IS THE RIGHT TO AN ABORTION.
01:00 - 38.330 NO IT
01:00 - 41.200 IS NOT. RIGHT IN QUESTION HERE
01:00 - 42.410 IS THE RIGHT TO WHETHER OR NOT
01:00 - 44.180 THE COMMONWEALTH MUST ON
01:00 - 46.230 AND ABORTION. AND THE MOST
01:00 - 47.770 IMPORTANT LINE AND THE ENTIRE
01:00 - 49.970 FISCHER CANYON IS IN FACT THE
01:00 - 52.840 VERY FIRST FLIGHT A COURT SAYS
01:00 - 55.220 THIS CASE DOES NOT A CONCERN.
01:00 - 56.510 THE RIGHT TO AN ABORTION.
01:00 - 59.740 THE FOCUS HERE PETITIONERS ARE
01:00 - 01.600 TRYING TO SKEW HERE TO MAKE
01:01 - 02.830 THIS CASE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT
01:01 - 03.940 A WOMAN HAS A RIGHT TO AN
01:01 - 05.120 ABORTION IN PENNSYLVANIA.
01:01 - 08.670 AS YOU IN THE DEPLOYMENT SINCE
01:01 - 11.300 1985 AND STILL TODAY CAN HAVE
01:01 - 12.640 AN ABORTION THEY HAVE A RIGHT
01:01 - 14.160 TO AN ABORTION. BUT THEY DON'T
01:01 - 14.980 HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE THE
01:01 - 17.310 COMMONWEALTH. I 4 THAT IS THE
01:01 - 18.840 RIGHT IN COURT AND THEN
01:01 - 19.960 MISFORTUNE MADE ANOTHER
01:01 - 21.750 ADMISSION WHERE SHE SAID THE
01:01 - 23.680 RIGHT TO FUNDING IS NOT A
01:01 - 25.850 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT. SHE IS QUITE
01:01 - 26.160 CORRECT.
01:01 - 28.410 BUT BECAUSE THIS CASE IS ABOUT
01:01 - 30.580 THE RIGHT TO FORM AND BECAUSE
01:01 - 31.680 FUNDING IS NOT A
01:01 - 33.370 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT. AND THE
01:01 - 34.800 QUESTION ALSO ADMITTED THAT
01:01 - 36.120 INDIGENCY IS NOT A
01:01 - 38.850 SUSPECT CLASS. WE ARE SQUARELY
01:01 - 40.570 WITHIN THE RATIONAL BASIS
01:01 - 43.320 REVIEW HERE AND NO MORE AND
01:01 - 44.590 WHEN YOU'RE IN A RATIONAL BASIS
01:01 - 46.510 REVIEW. THE INQUIRY BECOMES
01:01 - 47.990 WHETHER OR NOT THE STATE HAS A
01:01 - 49.190 SUFFICIENT INTEREST TO
01:01 - 49.940 DIFFERENTIATE
01:01 - 52.910 SOCIAL POLICY. ENCOURAGE
01:01 - 54.400 BEHAVIOR, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER
01:01 - 56.220 AND HERE JUST MCCALL A STAND.
01:01 - 59.430 WHAT IS EXACTLY OF COURSE WHICH
01:01 - 59.750 IS THAT
01:01 - 02.160 INDIGENCY ITSELF CAN BE A
01:02 - 04.630 SUSPECT CLASS AND HERE
01:02 - 06.950 THE INTEREST IS THE COMPELLING
01:02 - 09.370 INTEREST IN PROTECTING WIFE OF
01:02 - 10.460 A CHILD FOR THAT
01:02 - 12.480 CHILD'S MOTHER. IT HAS LONG
01:02 - 13.710 BEEN HELD IN I DON'T THINK THAT
01:02 - 15.250 ANYONE ON YOUR SIDE WOULD
01:02 - 17.420 DISAGREE. AND THAT HAS BEEN
01:02 - 19.050 RECOGNIZED AS AN IMPORTANT
01:02 - 20.660 GOVERNMENT INTEREST. BOTH AT
01:02 - 22.160 THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND HERE AT
01:02 - 23.010 THE STATE LEVEL
01:02 - 25.540 AND WORRY ABORTION-RELATED CASE
01:02 - 27.380 SAID SO ROE V WADE.
01:02 - 30.140 MAYOR GREG HARRIS BEAT MCRAE
01:02 - 31.520 AND OF COURSE OF
01:02 - 32.430 THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
01:02 - 33.870 WELFARE EVERY ONE OF THOSE
01:02 - 34.280 CASES
01:02 - 36.240 HAVE RECOGNIZED WHAT THEY DEEM
01:02 - 38.150 TO BE VALID AND IMPORTANT
01:02 - 40.130 SIGNIFICANT AND UNQUESTIONABLY
01:02 - 41.350 STRONG RIGHTS
01:02 - 42.980 TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE
01:02 - 44.500 UNBORN CHILD THAT'S THE
01:02 - 45.790 INTEREST THAT'S AT STAKE.
01:02 - 47.540 AND BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A
01:02 - 48.860 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT THAT'S
01:02 - 51.840 IMPLICATED AND INDIGENCY IS NOT
01:02 - 51.940 A
01:02 - 54.120 SUSPECT CLASS. SO LONG AS THE
01:02 - 55.350 GOVERNMENT HAS A SUFFICIENT
01:02 - 56.860 BASIS TO DIFFERENTIATE
01:02 - 59.090 AND WHAT SOCIAL POLICIES IT
01:02 - 00.170 WANTS TO ENCOURAGE AND WHAT
01:03 - 01.480 BEHAVIOR WANTS TO IMPAIRED
01:03 - 02.170 BECAUSE IT HAS A
01:03 - 04.230 SUFFICIENT BASIS INDY HERE IT'S
01:03 - 06.190 AN IMPORTANT INTERESTS AND
01:03 - 07.370 PROTECTING THE LIFE OF THE
01:03 - 09.770 UNBORN CHILD AND THEIR MOTHER.
01:03 - 12.980 THIS PASSES WHATEVER SCRUTINY
01:03 - 14.420 HE WOULD WANT TO TALK TO JEFF
01:03 - 16.530 MCCALL IS RIGHT THE COURT MADE
01:03 - 17.770 CLEAR NOT ONLY.
01:03 - 19.700 THIS CLEAR THE HURDLE FOR
01:03 - 22.160 RATIONAL BASIS THAT ALSO CLEARS
01:03 - 23.020 THE HURDLE FOR HEIGHTENED
01:03 - 24.840 SCRUTINY. SPECIFICALLY THE
01:03 - 27.190 COSTS THE OVERRIDING INTEREST
01:03 - 28.420 OF THE GOVERNMENT OF PROTECTING
01:03 - 29.930 THE LIFE OF THE UNBORN CHILD
01:03 - 31.980 AND ITS MOTHER IS SUCH AN
01:03 - 33.610 IMPORTANT I WOULD ARGUE A
01:03 - 34.700 COMPELLING INTEREST.
01:03 - 47.400 THIS TIME THE CHEMICALLY THAT
01:03 - 49.520 WHO ARE 30 SECONDS THE RUBBLE,
01:03 - 50.890 YOU KNOW LIKE THE BACK OF HIM
01:03 - 51.870 RIGHT NOW POLICE.
01:03 - 57.610 >>2 QUICK POINTS BUT JUST LIKE
01:03 - 59.040 MAKER KNOWN SPENDING ISSUE.
01:04 - 01.660 AND THERE'S MENTION BE
01:04 - 04.190 JUDE MEDICAL SERVICES CAPERS
01:04 - 06.960 RECENT SUPREME COURT CASE, I'M
01:04 - 11.910 IF THE HOLDING IN THAT CASE.
01:04 - 14.050 ONE. WHAT WAS THAT THE ENDING
01:04 - 15.760 WAS WAIVED BY THE STATE.
01:04 - 18.800 THE ISSUE WAS WE MIGHT BE THE
01:04 - 20.970 STATE TODAY NOT LEAVING YOU TO
01:04 - 23.150 STAND AND WE WORK REALLY
01:04 - 25.680 IMPORTANT GAME A COURT DOWN A
01:04 - 28.650 BIT. HARD DRIVE TO HIS HEAD AND
01:04 - 30.160 BEAT INTERESTS.
01:04 - 33.960 CHALLENGING AN ILLEGAL TAX.
01:04 - 36.560 AND IN THIS CASE THERE IS NO
01:04 - 39.040 THE INTEREST AND AT THAT TIME
01:04 - 39.920 WE EXPECT
01:04 - 42.180 A HIGH THE COLLIDER'S NOT
01:04 - 43.650 WITHIN THE ZONE OF PEOPLE TO
01:04 - 45.320 CLICK ON REPUBLICANS. THE
01:04 - 46.690 QUESTION. THANK YOU.
01:04 - 50.500 PLAYING A LITTLE MORE
01:04 - 52.410 ABOUT THE DOWN CONSTITUTION ALL
01:04 - 52.790 IN FOR.
01:04 - 57.330 >>YOU'RE STRONGER SO.
01:04 - 00.100 THE CASE COULD HAVE BEEN YOU IT
01:05 - 00.640 WAS.
01:05 - 04.170 BE IMMEDIATELY CANNOT BE TOO
01:05 - 06.550 LOW. IT HAS TO GO
01:05 - 09.410 TO TRY TO I'M JUST
01:05 - 12.630 SUPER TEXANS OUT OF A LOCAL
01:05 - 14.610 COFFEE CREATIONS. THEY'RE NOT
01:05 - 17.110 WE'VE BEEN INTERESTS ALL THE
01:05 - 18.700 COUNTRY NEXT IN THIS CASE,
01:05 - 21.150 WE HAVE A PERSON CAN PROTECTION
01:05 - 22.440 OF THE PEOPLE EQUAL PROTECTION.
01:05 - 23.530 I KNEW IT
01:05 - 25.620 AND LEGAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT ACT
01:05 - 27.100 OF THE CUP. HE SAID THE
01:05 - 28.800 CONSTITUTION. HOWEVER.
01:05 - 31.880 THERE ARE THEIR LOSS OF REVENUE
01:05 - 33.530 THE TIME THE RESOURCES.
01:05 - 36.240 ABSOLUTELY NOT WITHIN THAT ZONE
01:05 - 37.590 OF INTEREST SOUGHT TO PROTECT
01:05 - 37.740 YOU.
01:05 - 46.470 ALL RIGHT, IF YOU DIE.
01:05 - 51.720 MY BUDGET. HE POINTS TO TRY TO
01:05 - 53.810 GET THEM IN YOUR TEAM.
01:05 - 55.250 >>INITIALLY.
01:05 - 58.640 WE'RE ASKING THIS COURT TO
01:05 - 00.320 ISSUE AN ADVISORY OPINION.
01:06 - 02.850 IT'S OUR POSITION THAT THE
01:06 - 04.590 COURT DID NOT ISSUE AN ADVISORY
01:06 - 06.760 OPINION. THERE MUST BE A CLEAR
01:06 - 08.680 CASE OF CONTROVERSY WE MUST BE.
01:06 - 12.030 THERE MUST BE A CLEAR RIGHT TO
01:06 - 14.550 REALLY. THERE THERE IS
01:06 - 17.430 NOT SO WE WOULD GET THE COURTS
01:06 - 17.930 SHOULD NOT.
01:06 - 20.830 ENGAGING IN THE SHOOTING AND BY
01:06 - 22.460 THE REAL THING ON THE
01:06 - 24.210 STANDING ISSUE. HERE ARE
01:06 - 26.420 ARGUABLY THE PICTURE OR.
01:06 - 29.380 TRUDEAU ASSERTING THEIR OWN
01:06 - 30.830 REPORT LIKE TO GET PAID.
01:06 - 34.790 THEY THEY WANT. THEIR MOM I'M
01:06 - 36.090 SORRY I KNOW.
01:06 - 38.960 THAT PROVIDES STANDING EVEN IN
01:06 - 42.160 THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. THE
01:06 - 46.380 PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE KID THAT.
01:06 - 51.080 I HELP NEEDS ARE FULLY FUNDED
01:06 - 53.400 AND THEIR CORE ALL OF WOMEN'S
01:06 - 54.920 HEALTH NEEDS SHOULD BE FULLY
01:06 - 57.280 FUNDED. YOU ARE THE SEARCH IS
01:06 - 00.410 JUST NOT TRUE. OF MENTAL
01:07 - 02.310 HEALTH ISSUES THAT ARE NOT
01:07 - 04.320 FUNDED UNDER MEDICAL ASSISTANCE
01:07 - 06.250 AND IN JUST BECAUSE OF ONE
01:07 - 10.390 ISSUE IN WIN AND JUST BECAUSE.
01:07 - 15.970 OKAY CAN ONLY GROW BEARDS.
01:07 - 19.940 AND THERE WERE RULES
01:07 - 21.990 THAT PROHIBIT AND HAPPY YEARS
01:07 - 23.100 OF A WORKPLACE SCHOOL.
01:07 - 27.510 THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY IN 4
01:07 - 30.630 K. THE BR IT. SIMPLY BECAUSE
01:07 - 30.770 IT.
01:07 - 35.070 IT WAS SOMETHING IT WAS A GAME.
01:07 - 37.000 BOTH PARTIES ARE NOT SIMILARLY.
01:07 - 42.080 ABORTION IS NOT.
01:07 - 45.610 A FUNDAMENTAL WAY. IN ARTICLE
01:07 - 47.810 ONE SECTION ONE. IT IS NOT
01:07 - 48.630 FUNDAMENTAL WAY TO
01:07 - 49.810 PENNSYLVANIA. AND
01:07 - 51.930 IT WORKED I THINK YOU WILL NOT
01:07 - 53.980 BE ASKING FOR THAT AS A PORTION
01:07 - 54.670 OF THE WEEK.
01:08 - 08.120 AND WE WANT TO BE CLEAR
01:08 - 08.970 YOU'RE HERE.
01:08 - 11.310 >>YOUR POSITION IS THAT THERE
01:08 - 11.860 HAS NEVER BEEN
01:08 - 14.030 A HOLDING AND THE IMPACT OF THE
01:08 - 15.240 RIGHT TO ABORTION AS A
01:08 - 16.050 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT.
01:08 - 20.870 THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE
01:08 - 22.800 WHILE IT. IT IS.
01:08 - 24.570 >>PERCEIVED TO HAVE HELPED US
01:08 - 26.880 OUT AND GROW DID.
01:08 - 31.630 A STATEMENT TO THAT EFFECT.
01:08 - 38.600 PARTICULARLY I THINK CASEY.
01:08 - 40.920 PARTICULARLY THE CASE IN
01:08 - 43.530 THE SAME COMPARED WITH HEALTHY
01:08 - 45.680 BABY BIRDS. CASEY, WHO WAS
01:08 - 46.650 REALLY CLEAR.
01:08 - 49.410 OF ALL
01:08 - 50.340 THE BRUTALITY.
01:09 - 04.760 BUT THE FACT THAT IT WAS NOT
01:09 - 06.330 RECOGNIZING THAT WE ARE RIGHT
01:09 - 09.560 AND A SPECIFICALLY A COURT IN
01:09 - 10.750 JUST A FEW IN
01:09 - 13.680 ROAD CRASH. WOMAN TO TERMINATE
01:09 - 15.380 A PREGNANCY AS A FUNDAMENTAL
01:09 - 18.600 RIGHT. THAT COULD BE A LEAVE
01:09 - 20.370 THE MATTER WITH. HIS FIRST
01:09 - 20.650 SCHOOL.
01:09 - 25.930 AND CHIEF JUSTICE REHNQUIST
01:09 - 26.810 WHITE CLEAR
01:09 - 31.020 BUT THROUGHOUT THAT KP OPINION
01:09 - 34.490 AND IN SOME CASES SUCH A FOSTER
01:09 - 35.980 PARENT OF A NEW DOCKING.
01:09 - 36.770 THAT WAS
01:09 - 40.750 A GAME INVOLVING THE PEOPLE
01:09 - 41.470 REMAINS.
01:09 - 47.820 WELL BACKED THE
01:09 - 49.660 IDEA THAT ABORTION IS AN
01:09 - 51.020 ABSOLUTE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT.
01:09 - 54.360 SO WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT
01:09 - 55.920 BECAUSE IT IS NOT SO.
01:09 - 59.570 WE DO NOT HAVE
01:09 - 02.250 A A NEED TO FALL IN LINE AND
01:10 - 04.790 THE EXCEPT THAT PROPOSITION AND
01:10 - 06.470 I WOULD SUGGEST THAT HE PUT HIS
01:10 - 07.340 PROGRAM. WE'RE ASKING
01:10 - 09.530 OR DECLARATION AND THE
01:10 - 11.120 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT. THEY KNOW
01:10 - 12.350 FULL WELL THAT IS NOT THERE.
01:10 - 17.170 OCCASIONAL ON THAT ISSUE.
01:10 - 19.800 AND LASTLY ON IT.
01:10 - 25.410 PREGNANCIES IS UNIQUELY NEEDED
01:10 - 27.060 BY WOMEN. WELL YOUR HONOR.
01:10 - 30.500 THE CENTERS OF GREEN
01:10 - 32.520 AND THERE A COMPLAINT FOR WE
01:10 - 34.720 PLAY WE WOULD HAVE I'M GOING TO
01:10 - 36.580 CHANGE IT AND HOW THINGS ARE
01:10 - 38.250 DIFFERENT NOW. WELL, YOU ARE
01:10 - 39.460 THINGS ARE DIFFERENT NOW.
01:10 - 41.050 AND NOW WE HAVE MEN WHO ARE
01:10 - 42.920 OFTEN BECOME PREGNANT AND
01:10 - 44.940 YOUR HONOR. YOU WANT TO CONTROL
01:10 - 46.470 IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE PEOPLE
01:10 - 47.060 BETTER WITH.
01:10 - 50.260 WELL YOU IDENTIFY THE FEMALE
01:10 - 51.460 EUROPE PORTION IS NOT GOING TO
01:10 - 53.370 GET PAID FOR IF YOU IDENTIFY AS
01:10 - 55.590 A MALE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET
01:10 - 57.340 PAID FOR OR WE
01:10 - 00.080 CAN JUST THAT THE ERIE DOES NOT
01:11 - 02.050 PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THE
01:11 - 04.410 FIRST TIME I SEE MY TIME IS UP.
01:11 - 06.930 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
01:11 - 08.530 >>VERY
01:11 - 10.510 INTERESTING CASE. I THANK YOU
01:11 - 12.490 ALL. VERY WELL ARGUE.
01:11 - 16.450 >>BRIGHT SIDE WAS LEFT INSIDE
01:11 - 35.580 >>THE PIAA FOOTBALL
01:11 - 38.390 CHAMPIONSHIPS LIVE ON PCN GET
01:11 - 40.850 MORE AT PCN TV DOT COM.
01:11 - 49.830 >>2 CASES ARE ENTITLED AND HER
01:11 - 52.260 FRIEND AT ALL FOR THE CITY OF
01:11 - 54.260 HER AND THE SECOND CAVE NUMBER
01:11 - 56.950 21 IN FIREARM OWNER RECOUNT
01:11 - 59.270 CRIME VERSUS THE MANY OF THE
01:11 - 59.530 BIRD.
01:12 - 02.760 THE NEXT FEW CASES OR FEEL THAT
01:12 - 04.790 ARE BROUGHT BY THE CITY OF 4
01:12 - 06.880 FROM WHO ORDERED OF THE COURT
01:12 - 07.870 OF COMMON PLEAS OF
01:12 - 09.970 ALLEGHENY COUNTY AND THOUGH THE
01:12 - 11.850 BORDER, THE COURT HELD THAT
01:12 - 14.490 FREE CITY ORDINANCE TO 4 POINT
01:12 - 16.850 AND 100 PORTABLE BECAUSE THEY
01:12 - 19.160 WERE PREEMPTED BY STATE LAW.
01:12 - 20.870 NAMELY THE UNIFORM
01:12 - 23.810 FIREARMS ACT. THE ORDINANCES
01:12 - 27.650 WERE PASSED AND 2019. ORDINANCE
01:12 - 28.380 REGULATES
01:12 - 32.480 THE U IN PUBLIC PLACES IN
01:12 - 35.380 THE CITY. A SECOND REGULATE THE
01:12 - 38.330 USE OF LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINE
01:12 - 40.830 AND PUBLIC PLACE A 3RD.
01:12 - 43.750 ALL THE EXTREME RISK ORDINANCE
01:12 - 45.700 ALLOWED COURT FOR HIM IT AND
01:12 - 47.500 THEN THE INDIVIDUAL FROM
01:12 - 48.990 POSSESSING A FIREARM
01:12 - 51.140 WHERE THAT INDIVIDUAL HAS SHOWN
01:12 - 52.460 UP OR DOWN OR IF
01:12 - 56.190 THE SUICIDE CAUSING AREA BODILY
01:12 - 58.130 INJURY TO ANOTHER PERSON.
01:12 - 01.320 APPEAL NUMBER 20 A ROW
01:13 - 03.220 FROM A CIVIL ACTION FILED BY
01:13 - 05.340 LAUREN JOSEPH ANDERSON AND
01:13 - 07.530 OTHER RESIDENTS HIT HER WHO
01:13 - 09.400 HAVE CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT.
01:13 - 10.210 THE
01:13 - 12.880 CHALLENGE THOUGH BACK IN ONLY
01:13 - 15.310 WHICH IS FEARED A REGULATOR, A
01:13 - 17.500 LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINE.
01:13 - 20.620 APPEAL NUMBER 21 ROAD FROM A
01:13 - 22.850 CIVIL ACTION FILED FI, AN
01:13 - 25.240 ORGANIZATION FIREARM OWNER
01:13 - 27.920 AGAIN I'M AND READ THEM
01:13 - 31.290 AND THE CHALLENGE WAS BROUGHT
01:13 - 34.250 ALL 3 ORDINANCES. AND IF
01:13 - 35.720 THE PEEL OF THE TRIAL
01:13 - 37.700 COURT ORDER THE CITY ARGUE THAT
01:13 - 39.670 THE ORDINANCES ARE NOT CRANFORD
01:13 - 41.570 BY THE UNIFORM FIREARMS BACK
01:13 - 43.580 BECAUSE THAT BACK TO OUR
01:13 - 45.950 COMMUNITY ROWDY FROM REGULATING
01:13 - 46.640 THE OWNERSHIP
01:13 - 48.930 THAT HIM TRANSFER OR
01:13 - 50.450 TRANSPORTATION OF
01:13 - 52.990 A FIREARM BY CONTRAST THE
01:13 - 55.110 ORDINANCE TO REGULATE YOU.
01:13 - 57.540 A FIREARM AND A FACTORY.
01:13 - 01.190 A LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINE ARE
01:14 - 03.880 NEITHER FIREARM NOR AM I AN AIR
01:14 - 06.230 FROM. THE CITY ARGUED THAT
01:14 - 08.990 HAS A HOMER ALL MUNICIPALITIES
01:14 - 10.090 CAN AN ACT AND HE
01:14 - 12.230 ORDERED THEM UNLIKE HER HIT BY
01:14 - 14.540 STATE LAW. FINALLY THE CITY
01:14 - 17.020 ARGUE THAT A FIREARM OWNERS
01:14 - 19.280 AGAINST CRIME LAB STANDING TO
01:14 - 21.990 BRING THEIR ACT THEM A CONDOM
01:14 - 24.000 AND CAN THAT THEY HAVE FANNING
01:14 - 25.460 AND THAT THE OR HIM.
01:14 - 28.350 OUR PREEMPTED BY STATE LAW
01:14 - 30.210 WHICH COMPLETELY OCCUPIED THE
01:14 - 32.910 FIELD. FIREARM REGULATION
01:14 - 34.780 AND CORRECTLY FOR HIM
01:14 - 38.440 MUNICIPALITY. RATE. FROM
01:14 - 41.070 ENACTING THEIR OWN REGULATORY
01:14 - 46.610 WE ON MR.
01:14 - 48.350 HER WELL.
01:14 - 51.590 ARE YOU ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
01:14 - 54.790 >>THANK YOU MAYOR PLEASE THE
01:14 - 56.660 COURT US.
01:14 - 59.090 REMAINS ARE FIRST OF ALL I WAS
01:14 - 00.780 IN THE CITY OF PITTSBURGH WINS
01:15 - 03.150 CASE. WE ARE DOING ON BEHALF OF
01:15 - 06.950 ALL THIS. AND THEY'RE COOL OR.
01:15 - 08.730 AS WAS JUST
01:15 - 11.090 SUMMARIZE THE FIELD HE SENT 2
01:15 - 12.330 VERY DIFFERENT VIEWS ON THE
01:15 - 14.160 SCOPE OF FIREARMS, THE OPTION
01:15 - 15.330 AND SOMETHING.
01:15 - 18.380 AND YOU CAN'T FIND MY CLIENT
01:15 - 19.440 SIU ITS 3RD.
01:15 - 21.450 KNOWLEDGE IS THAT GENERAL
01:15 - 23.760 ASSEMBLY HAS STRAIN, YOU KNOW
01:15 - 25.860 HE WAS MISSING OUT IS TO PASS
01:15 - 27.530 LAWS. THEY WERE FIRED.
01:15 - 30.290 INTENSE OF THE SCOPE OF BACK
01:15 - 33.270 STRAIN. THE SPECIFIED
01:15 - 35.990 CATEGORIES REGULATION SO FOR
01:15 - 37.520 THE REACTION STATUTES.
01:15 - 41.530 ASKED BY THE FIREARM OWNERS AND
01:15 - 42.080 ANDERSON
01:15 - 44.350 I GUESS SO GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAS
01:15 - 46.590 COMPLETELY ELIMINATE YOU HOW
01:15 - 46.900 THIS
01:15 - 49.850 HOW THESE AS LOCAL MANY BRAVELY
01:15 - 51.710 FIREARMS. SO I LIKE
01:15 - 53.760 TO BEGIN AND SUPREME COURT HAS
01:15 - 55.830 MADE CLEAR WE SHOULD BEGIN WHEN
01:15 - 57.200 YOU WANT TO STEP UP FOR
01:15 - 59.310 INTERPRETATION. AND THAT'S WITH
01:15 - 02.370 THE TESTS. SO
01:16 - 04.680 FIRST IS 18 SECTION
01:16 - 07.610 6120. OF COURSE WE REALLY ARE
01:16 - 08.520 THE TITLE IS
01:16 - 11.190 A LIMITATION ON THE REGULATION
01:16 - 12.760 OF FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION.
01:16 - 15.930 SO THE U.S.,
01:16 - 17.840 I'M QUOTING NO COUNTY
01:16 - 19.360 MUNICIPALITY OR TOWNSHIP.
01:16 - 21.840 AND ANY MANNER AND DOING THE
01:16 - 25.360 OWNERSHIP SESSION TRANSFER.
01:16 - 28.510 TRANSPORTATION, A FIRE US AND
01:16 - 29.130 IN ADDITION.
01:16 - 32.190 AMMUNITION COMPONENTS AND TERRY
01:16 - 33.950 WERE TRANSPORTED FOR PURPOSES
01:16 - 36.680 NOT FOR IT. LAWS IS CALM.
01:16 - 40.200 ALSO AT ISSUE HERE IS TITLED 53
01:16 - 42.000 SECTION 14 ISIS TOO.
01:16 - 45.880 SIMILARLY TITLED OCCASION ON
01:16 - 48.180 MUNICIPAL HOURS. AND SO
01:16 - 51.230 SECTION G IT'S ALL THE SAME FOR
01:16 - 54.140 THE EMPTY CATEGORIES. AND
01:16 - 55.040 MISS APOLOGY
01:16 - 57.080 SELL OUT IN THE NEW ORDINANCE
01:16 - 58.610 OR TAKE ANY OTHER ACTION
01:16 - 00.400 DEALING WITH THE REGULATION OF
01:17 - 01.420 THE TRANSFER
01:17 - 05.040 OR SHIP AS ASIAN SESSION IN
01:17 - 05.480 FIRE.
01:17 - 08.420 SO IF THIS STATUTORY TAX
01:17 - 10.840 THE MIND. I LIKE TO FOCUS FIRST
01:17 - 12.840 ON SALT WEAPON. I
01:17 - 15.230 ASKED YOU. MAGAZINE ORDINANCES
01:17 - 16.960 OF THE CITY OF PITTSBURGH PASS.
01:17 - 20.780 AND PAIRING THE FACTS SECTION
01:17 - 23.670 6140 2962.
01:17 - 26.340 EXPECT THIS BURNS ASSAULT
01:17 - 28.770 WEAPON MUCH PASS THE ORDINANCE
01:17 - 30.860 ACROSS MOST IN ORDER TO THIS
01:17 - 33.630 TO YOU INNING AND THE AND THE
01:17 - 34.480 ANNOUNCE.
01:17 - 37.730 STATUTORY TAX. 2 REACTION
01:17 - 41.080 WAS HERE. FIRST BEFORE MURRAY
01:17 - 42.710 HAD WAS PRETTY LACE
01:17 - 44.870 EITHER PREEMPTION LAW PROBLEMS
01:17 - 47.920 HAD A GREAT USE. CATEGORY
01:17 - 50.870 IS LEGALLY. MEANING 3 DISTINCT
01:17 - 53.030 FROM THE FOUR-YEAR 85 DEGREES.
01:17 - 55.360 THIS BIRD LIMITED THE ASSAULT
01:17 - 57.490 ORTON.
01:17 - 59.020 >>IF THE COUNCIL.
01:18 - 02.090 JUDGE CAME
01:18 - 04.470 IN HIS OPINION THE MADE CLEAR
01:18 - 05.540 THAT THERE ARE 2 TYPES OF
01:18 - 07.380 PREEMPTION EXPRESS AND FIELD
01:18 - 09.940 AND HE FOUND THAT THE CLOSE.
01:18 - 12.400 PREEMPTION AND THE GAME.
01:18 - 15.960 MORTON MORE THAN THAT AND YOUR
01:18 - 18.200 KIDS GAVE THE GREEN COURT SAID
01:18 - 20.660 THAT YOU WAS.
01:18 - 23.880 >>AND THAT THE COURT EXPLAINED
01:18 - 25.180 THAT HOME RULE TERRIFIC AND
01:18 - 26.840 CANNOT REGULATE THE OWNERSHIP
01:18 - 28.790 YOU THE BEST AND OR TRANSFER A
01:18 - 30.650 FIRE OF CERTAIN FIREARM THOUGH.
01:18 - 32.470 >>YOU HAVE TO
01:18 - 34.480 CRAM SHUN EDITION WHICH JUDGE
01:18 - 36.030 JAMES COOK WHICH MEANS
01:18 - 38.000 ONE THAT REGULATED YOU CAN'T
01:18 - 38.610 STEP IN AS
01:18 - 41.100 THE MUNICIPALITY AND FOR THE
01:18 - 43.690 REGULATED AND THEN THE ISSUE OF
01:18 - 45.690 THEM OR HIS COURT ALREADY THING
01:18 - 46.990 THAT YOU WOULD COVER COULD YOU
01:18 - 47.580 ADDRESS THOSE.
01:18 - 49.530 >>AND LET ME ADDRESS THOSE THAT
01:18 - 50.680 ARE NOW STARTING TO FEEL
01:18 - 52.990 PREEMPTION AND FROM UNC MET
01:18 - 55.370 HER. THAT YOU LOOK AT THE
01:18 - 58.350 OVERALL STRUCTURE. OF FIREARMS
01:18 - 59.590 LAWS IN PENNSYLVANIA.
01:19 - 01.140 INCLUDING A
01:19 - 05.440 PREEMPTION STATUTES. MENTION OR
01:19 - 06.440 IT TURNS OUT TALK ABOUT A
01:19 - 08.680 MINUTE. THERE'S NOT FEEL THE
01:19 - 10.730 ACTION AND NOT JUST JAMES I
01:19 - 12.930 WAS INCORRECT. AND
01:19 - 15.150 I START WHERE I'M JUST SORT OF
01:19 - 16.600 LEFT OFF WITH THE TAX TO
01:19 - 18.320 SECTION 6128,
01:19 - 23.340 2962 YOU JIM. THE ARGUMENT THAT
01:19 - 23.850 WE MADE
01:19 - 27.280 STAT I BELIEVE WE STILL GOT
01:19 - 29.780 HERE TO THE SPECIFIED FOR THEM,
01:19 - 30.710 I'M NOT
01:19 - 32.750 USING AMONG ALL GET
01:19 - 34.930 TO SEE MOSTLY DRY WEATHER
01:19 - 36.070 GENERAL ASSEMBLY OR
01:19 - 37.540 LEGISLATURES ACROSS THE COUNTRY
01:19 - 39.430 AND THEY WANT TO EXPRESS
01:19 - 41.720 YOUR REACTION. USE WORDS THAT
01:19 - 43.030 ARE VERY DIFFERENT BUT FOR
01:19 - 45.070 SPECIFIC I ONCE
01:19 - 47.900 AND WHY I'M GOING TO REGULATE
01:19 - 49.620 THE WHOLE FIELD OR AN ENTIRE
01:19 - 51.870 MEAL WORK. A PENNSYLVANIA
01:19 - 54.010 EXAMPLE, UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY
01:19 - 57.280 HAS SAID I WILL HAVE ITS USES A
01:19 - 59.160 FIRST EDITION OF CO-SLEEPING
01:19 - 00.440 OPERATIONS. YOU KNOW SEE
01:20 - 01.060 TURNOUT.
01:20 - 03.640 >>HOW DO WE GIVE ME FOR WHAT
01:20 - 05.050 YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT THE
01:20 - 06.020 LEGISLATURE.
01:20 - 09.350 DID NOT INTEND TO REGULATE THE
01:20 - 12.770 WHOLE A GUN REGULATION
01:20 - 15.980 AND THEY PLAY AMID THE WORD
01:20 - 16.370 YOU.
01:20 - 19.960 >>WHAT I'M SUGGESTING YOUR
01:20 - 22.090 HONOR IS THAT BY PLEADING FOR
01:20 - 23.730 SPECIFIED CATEGORIES.
01:20 - 27.400 IS IN KANSAS STATUTORY
01:20 - 29.320 CONSTRUCTION CELLS TO LOOK NOT
01:20 - 31.200 ONLY AT WHAT WAS INCLUDED WE
01:20 - 33.200 WILL BE 5 BIRDIES AND ALSO WE
01:20 - 35.920 ASKED ME IF I WAS I WAS I WAS
01:20 - 36.610 SO WHAT.
01:20 - 37.870 I DID.
01:20 - 40.000 >>YOU SAID THERE WHAT ELSE IS
01:20 - 42.280 NOT THERE. AND HOW DO YOU GOT
01:20 - 43.550 UP YOU DON'T HAVE ETHICS.
01:20 - 46.020 >>WHAT WHAT OTHER CATEGORY THAT
01:20 - 48.460 WE ARE SAYS IT WAS FOR THE
01:20 - 50.150 FIRE. AND YOU
01:20 - 50.550 LOOK AT
01:20 - 53.680 FIREARMS LAWS AND OTHER STATES
01:20 - 55.880 BY FIRST NAME SEE THAT IN OTHER
01:20 - 58.560 STATES IN 2. THIS AND
01:20 - 01.050 SPECIFY USE I KNOW A STORY.
01:21 - 03.590 I WAS LEGISLATION IS INTENDED
01:21 - 05.620 TO HAVE THOSE BAD LOANS AND SO
01:21 - 06.590 THEY KNOW HAS NOT
01:21 - 09.440 I'M BACK. AND YOU
01:21 - 11.160 THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED
01:21 - 13.720 TO CALL IN A HOUSTON. AS YOU
01:21 - 14.490 ARE NOW.
01:21 - 17.590 OTHER STATUTES SO NOT
01:21 - 19.950 BEING REPEAL US WE WERE WE
01:21 - 21.360 SUBMITTED 5 WEEKS.
01:21 - 26.930 POWER TO REGULATE THE AREA ARE
01:21 - 29.480 TALKING ABOUT HOW THE SECTIONS
01:21 - 31.510 23 1.31 AND
01:21 - 35.270 37 OF 3. SPECIFICALLY YOU SEE
01:21 - 36.370 THESE PAROLE,
01:21 - 38.820 DEREGULATING FIRE ON TO THE SET
01:21 - 40.510 WITH A LOUSE YOU THINK HOW ARE
01:21 - 43.440 CITIES REGULATE TO HER EVENTS
01:21 - 45.670 IS CHARGED IN THIS AREA FIRE
01:21 - 47.760 HIM A DOZEN PUBLIC PLACE.
01:21 - 50.470 SO THIS HOUSTON HIGH SCHOOL FOR
01:21 - 50.850 YOU.
01:21 - 53.740 >>A DRAFT, THE FIRST REGULATING
01:21 - 56.230 THE USE OF SALT WEAPON. HOW
01:21 - 59.320 WOULD YOU DO THAT. AND THE
01:21 - 00.500 PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PLANE
01:22 - 01.520 WITHOUT.
01:22 - 07.850 AND A PUBLIC PLACE.
01:22 - 11.390 >>WE'RE SO USE THESE IS TO
01:22 - 15.860 FIND HIM. 2 IN THE ORDINANCE
01:22 - 16.440 SO.
01:22 - 19.840 INCLUDES FRIEND THE SCENE
01:22 - 22.330 WHEN TEEN, OWNING AN ASSAULT
01:22 - 23.880 WEAPON IN PUBLIC. AND
01:22 - 25.800 THE PUBLIC. WE'RE ACTIVELY
01:22 - 29.140 DISPLAYED IN PUBLIC. AND HIS
01:22 - 31.120 CONCEPT OF USE AS
01:22 - 33.310 DISTINCT FROM SESSION
01:22 - 35.480 ARE CARRYING. WELL ESTABLISHED
01:22 - 36.670 IN THE LAW WE POINT TO THE
01:22 - 37.610 UNITED STATES
01:22 - 39.680 IN COURT. SEASON AND THE DAILY
01:22 - 41.510 CASE FOR BY JUSTICE O'CONNOR
01:22 - 43.600 AND WHO ARE EXPLAINED THAT
01:22 - 44.680 USING A FIREARM.
01:22 - 46.850 LEGALLY DISTINCT FROM
01:22 - 49.340 POSSESSING OR CARRY IT. I WANT
01:22 - 52.210 TO WORK. SIDE USING A SIMPLE
01:22 - 54.650 DICTIONARY DEFINITIONS SO USING
01:22 - 56.050 THE FIRE. FIRES
01:22 - 59.450 ABSOLUTELY AND ALL THE EXAMPLES
01:22 - 01.820 WE THIS BIRD IS ALL UP IN
01:23 - 03.510 ORGANS ARE CONSISTENTLY BACK
01:23 - 04.990 AND WHAT THE CITY NEEDS
01:23 - 05.810 REGULATING
01:23 - 08.710 IS NOT YOUR POSSESSION MAY BE
01:23 - 10.470 THAT MOST TIMES YOU USE A
01:23 - 12.430 FIREARM YOU ALSO POSSESS
01:23 - 12.940 BUT.
01:23 - 15.810 >>SEEMS YOUR YOUR DOG TO GO.
01:23 - 17.490 >>IT WILL BE OR DONE, BUT THEY
01:23 - 18.040 GO AGAIN.
01:23 - 20.110 THE PENNSYLVANIA CONSTITUTION
01:23 - 21.630 THE RIGHT TO TO TO TO TO BEAR
01:23 - 23.320 ARMS IN DEFENSE OF THEMSELVES.
01:23 - 26.430 >>A LOT OF WE DON'T THINK THAT
01:23 - 28.130 HE DOES A PENNSYLVANIA
01:23 - 31.220 CONSTITUTION. CLEARLY PROTECTS.
01:23 - 32.050 A
01:23 - 34.050 CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AND
01:23 - 34.760 KEEPING THEIR
01:23 - 36.830 ARMS FIRE AND THAT FOR US TO
01:23 - 39.510 TRY TO STOP ANY YEAR. FIRST OF
01:23 - 39.900 ALL.
01:23 - 42.670 THIS THESE WITNESSES ARE
01:23 - 44.560 TELLING YOU YOU I VISIT THE
01:23 - 45.020 CITY
01:23 - 46.160 LIMITING HOW.
01:23 - 48.250 >>IT'S BEING USED AND THE
01:23 - 50.640 CONSTITUTION BIG DIRECTLY THAT
01:23 - 53.200 YOU MAY BE USED IN DEFENSE A
01:23 - 53.790 CITIZEN.
01:23 - 56.530 >>SO FIRST OF ALL SELF-DEFENSE
01:23 - 58.940 IS IS OUR COUTTS OFFENSE IS NOT
01:23 - 00.800 USE THOSE REGULATING THAT SINCE
01:24 - 03.310 FIRST THE SET OR IN ORDINANCES.
01:24 - 07.660 AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND
01:24 - 08.300 THERE'S NO.
01:24 - 10.360 INDICATION THAT HE
01:24 - 11.570 IS ALL I'M SAYING THAT ALL
01:24 - 13.420 ALONG SECTIONS ON MARCH BECAUSE
01:24 - 15.650 ANYMORE CALL THEM. SECOND
01:24 - 17.750 AMENDMENT IS IN SCREW AND THE
01:24 - 20.000 CASE LAW IS ALMOST UNIFORM
01:24 - 21.140 ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT EVEN
01:24 - 23.580 COMPLETELY A NAME
01:24 - 24.820 ASSAULT WEAPONS OR
01:24 - 26.640 LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINES.
01:24 - 28.320 IT'S NOT INFRINGING ON THE
01:24 - 29.880 RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS AND
01:24 - 31.830 HERE. SO HE HAS DONE SOMETHING
01:24 - 34.250 MUCH MUCH NARROWER HAS
01:24 - 36.420 ONLY LIMITED USE OF THOSE
01:24 - 37.440 WEAPONS AND ONLY
01:24 - 39.790 IN PUBLIC AND LISTEN BECAUSE
01:24 - 41.440 OUT SELF-DEFENSE LOW BEFORE A
01:24 - 44.600 RUN NEAR VIOLATION ON SECTION.
01:24 - 49.600 JUST A COUPLE MORE POINTS ON
01:24 - 50.740 THE QUESTION NOTES.
01:24 - 53.770 YOUR REACTION IN ADDITION TO
01:24 - 55.680 THE FACT THAT CITIES HAVE BEEN
01:24 - 58.340 EXPRESSED GIVEN POWER STATUTES
01:24 - 00.320 LIKE A MATCH THEM.
01:25 - 04.230 IT'S ALSO THE CASE WAS BEING OR
01:25 - 06.630 IN THE MY DECISION
01:25 - 08.800 WHICH IS ISSUE AFTER
01:25 - 11.970 40'S. WELL AS ACROSS THE STATE
01:25 - 13.600 THERE ARE ONLY 3 AREAS
01:25 - 15.570 AND WHICH IS RECOGNIZED YOU THE
01:25 - 17.850 ACTION IN THE STATE ARMS
01:25 - 19.050 IS NOT ONE
01:25 - 22.170 OF THEM. MINING IS ALSO MAKES
01:25 - 22.540 CLEAR THAT
01:25 - 24.800 JUST BECAUSE. THE GENERAL
01:25 - 26.500 ASSEMBLY HAS LEGISLATED EVEN
01:25 - 27.780 EXTENSIVELY IN THE AREA
01:25 - 30.360 FIREARMS. IT'S NOT YOU I YOU
01:25 - 32.250 KNOW WE HAVE DONE AND LAST I
01:25 - 34.070 WOULD POINT TO THE SPORTS ZONE.
01:25 - 37.220 IT'S DECISION WHICH IS NOT
01:25 - 37.980 IN.
01:25 - 41.150 WAR THIS WHOLE THAT THERE IS
01:25 - 43.060 SOME ROOM FOR LOCAL REGULATION
01:25 - 44.790 OF FIRE US PORT
01:25 - 47.950 OF L A LOCAL LAW YOU
01:25 - 50.450 KNOW MALL. SO ITS FIREARM
01:25 - 52.370 COURTHOUSES AND YES, IN
01:25 - 54.540 FACT CASE THIS PLACE WAS IT'S
01:25 - 56.190 ALREADY ILLEGAL UNDER
01:25 - 58.750 STATE LAW. POINT IS AND THE
01:25 - 00.520 CASE STANDS FOR THE PROPOSITION
01:26 - 01.340 THAT THERE STILL IS
01:26 - 03.830 SOME ROOM CITIES TO REGULATE
01:26 - 05.200 MOST AREAS SO IF YOU PUT ALL
01:26 - 07.300 THAT TOGETHER THOSE 4 AND
01:26 - 08.450 BECAUSE OF WORRIES ME THE
01:26 - 09.870 OPTION STATUTES.
01:26 - 12.570 I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER STATUTES
01:26 - 14.060 ON HOPES THAT EXPRESS THE 2
01:26 - 17.800 HERE. AND THE
01:26 - 21.360 HOLDINGS IN COAL MINING STATE
01:26 - 22.970 OF MIND. IT'S GREAT
01:26 - 24.040 THEY'RE NOT
01:26 - 27.560 PREEMPTION LET YOU KNOW IT MANY
01:26 - 28.620 MANY YEARS HERE ANOTHER
01:26 - 30.130 QUESTION DID AND THE
01:26 - 31.480 PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT IN
01:26 - 32.710 COMMONWEALTH FOR THE PICK.
01:26 - 34.630 >>A STATE THAT CONSISTENT WITH
01:26 - 34.710 THE
01:26 - 36.860 GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESERVATION OF
01:26 - 38.850 THE BLUE THE PREROGATIVE TO
01:26 - 40.560 REGULATE FIREARMS IN
01:26 - 41.230 THE COMMONWEALTH.
01:26 - 43.270 >>AND THE SUPREME COURT VERY
01:26 - 44.260 BROKEN ON THE ISSUE.
01:26 - 49.720 CERTAINLY I THINK WAS THE
01:26 - 51.840 LANGUAGE OF A FOOTNOTE IN ITS
01:26 - 53.810 I WOULD SUBMIT RESPECTFULLY THE
01:26 - 56.250 FACT IS IT DOES VERY GENERAL
01:26 - 58.490 STATEMENT. THERE WAS NO ISSUE
01:26 - 00.250 IN THIS CASE. WELL WHAT WE
01:27 - 03.440 SPOKE OF PREEMPTION IS PICKS
01:27 - 04.430 FOR HER BACK
01:27 - 07.060 TO YOU ORTIZ CASE AND THAT'S
01:27 - 08.470 ACTUALLY WHERE I WANT HER.
01:27 - 09.820 TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT
01:27 - 13.110 MURPHY'S CASE SHE'S OBVIOUSLY I
01:27 - 14.720 DIDN'T I DIDN'T BRING COURT HAS
01:27 - 16.330 DONE IT BEFORE THEY HAD BIG
01:27 - 17.570 KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE
01:27 - 19.850 GOING BY MAKING REFERENCE TO
01:27 - 19.950 IT.
01:27 - 22.210 >>AND A FOOTNOTE AND I BELIEVE
01:27 - 23.080 THAT THE COURT HAS
01:27 - 26.010 AN OBLIGATION TO RESPECT EVERY
01:27 - 27.140 PART OF THE SUPREME COURT
01:27 - 27.740 DECISION.
01:27 - 30.190 >>I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT
01:27 - 32.330 YOUR HONOR BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY
01:27 - 33.910 IS THAT ULTIMATELY YEAR.
01:27 - 36.780 PLUS YOU NAMES. I'M READING THE
01:27 - 38.380 STATUTE SPEAKING THE REACTION
01:27 - 41.740 STATUTES. TODAY WE CREATED
01:27 - 43.740 THIS AREA OR ARE THEY.
01:27 - 46.970 NOT ALL I'M FOCUSED ALTERNATELY
01:27 - 48.810 THE QUESTION IS STATUTORY
01:27 - 49.740 CONSTRUCTION ONE OF THE
01:27 - 51.850 GENERALS HAVE TO DO HERE AND I
01:27 - 53.180 THINK IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR
01:27 - 56.390 TEASE, SUSAN. THIS IS WHAT IT'S
01:27 - 58.090 WAS SIGNING A VERY
01:27 - 00.260 GENERAL SENSE. YEAH, YOU MIGHT
01:28 - 01.340 NOT EASY ISSUES THAT WE'RE
01:28 - 02.640 TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY.
01:28 - 05.090 RAISE YOUR SPIRITS I WAS REALLY
01:28 - 07.580 THE SORT OF A PASSING COMMENT.
01:28 - 10.830 ABOUT. ABOUT A
01:28 - 12.230 DIFFERENT ISSUE. BUT IF YOU GO
01:28 - 14.770 BACK TO THE ORTIZ DECISION A
01:28 - 16.730 WHOLE THING ABOUT IT I THINK
01:28 - 18.650 IT'S SORT OF LIKE LAST A LONG
01:28 - 19.950 WAY FROM ANY SUBSTANCE
01:28 - 22.600 STURGEON'S TALKING ABOUT IS SO
01:28 - 24.180 IT WAS HE LEAVES WHO
01:28 - 26.870 RECENTLY ABOUT LIVE IN. I
01:28 - 29.160 STATE PREEMPTION.
01:28 - 32.650 AND AND THE QUOTE THAT IS
01:28 - 34.830 OFTEN REPEATED. CERTAINLY
01:28 - 36.680 INCREASE IN THIS CASE AND
01:28 - 38.700 THOUSANDS OF TIMES AND YOU KNOW
01:28 - 40.990 HE DID I HOPE YOU'LL DO IN THIS
01:28 - 42.430 SPORT, SUBSEQUENT DECISIONS
01:28 - 44.110 THAT REGULATION OF FIREARMS.
01:28 - 45.860 I WAS MARRIED CONSERVING
01:28 - 48.310 ALL PENNSYLVANIA, NOT MERELY IN
01:28 - 49.780 PHILADELPHIA AND PITTSBURGH.
01:28 - 51.320 AND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, NOT
01:28 - 54.020 CITY COUNCILS. COPPER FOR THE
01:28 - 55.830 IMPOSITION OF SUCH REGULATION.
01:28 - 00.590 IT REALLY IS ARE YOU SURPRISED
01:29 - 03.150 TO A LOT OF ASSAULTING THEM.
01:29 - 04.950 APPLAUSE STATEMENTS
01:29 - 07.570 ABOUT REACTION. RESPONSE TO AN
01:29 - 09.060 ARGUMENT THAT YOUR T'S COURT
01:29 - 12.280 REJECTED. THE IN THAT CASE
01:29 - 14.020 REGULATION OF FIRE WAS NOT A
01:29 - 16.490 MATTERS LIKE THIS. SO LOCAL
01:29 - 16.910 HIMSELF
01:29 - 20.010 AND THEREFORE, AND ALSO WE HAVE
01:29 - 21.200 THE CONSTITUTIONAL POWER.
01:29 - 22.270 WE HAVE
01:29 - 24.630 MARY A AUTHORITIES CLEARLY
01:29 - 26.250 RESOUNDINGLY REJECTED THE
01:29 - 26.880 PROPOSITION.
01:29 - 28.210 THAT
01:29 - 30.060 SECTION ENTIRE SEXUALLY AND YOU
01:29 - 31.660 KNOW ALL THOSE ARE DONE NOTHING
01:29 - 34.000 TO DO WITH YES AND
01:29 - 35.890 THE REASON ORTIZ DOESN'T SPEAK
01:29 - 38.110 TO THIS POLL BE OPTIONAL TERMS
01:29 - 39.900 OF ITS HOLDING BECAUSE IT WAS
01:29 - 41.760 ON THE SPEEDING THERE A FEW
01:29 - 43.410 ORDINANCES REGULATING IT
01:29 - 46.840 OWNERSHIP. SESSION AND
01:29 - 49.600 TRANSPORT IN ADDITION TO USE SO
01:29 - 50.950 3 OF THE 4 CATEGORIES WERE
01:29 - 52.750 CLEARLY WITHIN THE SNOW SECTION
01:29 - 55.110 6140 AND IMPORTANT NEED TO
01:29 - 56.660 RAISE A SHRINE TO ACTUALLY LOOK
01:29 - 57.350 AT WHAT YOUR
01:29 - 59.770 T'S WORKS ABOUT SPOKE OF
01:29 - 02.770 61 POINT. ON LOOKING FIRST AT
01:30 - 05.260 PAINS 3 THEY SAID GENERAL
01:30 - 06.810 ASSEMBLY HAS DENIED ALL HE DOES
01:30 - 08.430 OF THESE I WERE
01:30 - 09.260 TO REGULATE
01:30 - 12.100 OWNERSHIP POSSESSION. TRANSFER
01:30 - 13.340 THAT I THINK IS A MISTAKE IN
01:30 - 14.490 THE TRANSCRIPTION FOR
01:30 - 15.900 POSSESSION OF A CITY GONNA
01:30 - 18.010 FIREARMS VOTE SESSION TWICE.
01:30 - 21.070 FOCUSING ON THE
01:30 - 22.480 4 CATEGORIES AND THEN THE NEXT
01:30 - 23.180 SENTENCE ON
01:30 - 25.870 THESE 24. INCLUSION OF A CITY
01:30 - 27.630 AND ITS PEOPLE WHO LOSE HIM
01:30 - 28.170 WEST
01:30 - 30.420 THERE'S MORE AND THIS IS HOW
01:30 - 33.130 THESE 10 AND THE SESSION,
01:30 - 35.090 CERTAIN PARTS OF FIREARMS.
01:30 - 37.410 PROSTITUTION FROM HER. SO IF
01:30 - 39.280 YOU LOOK AT ORTIZ AND YOU LOOK
01:30 - 40.860 AT FUTURE PARTS OF UNION
01:30 - 42.710 SEPARATELY WHAT ABOUT THE
01:30 - 44.420 VALIDITY OF THE GENERAL
01:30 - 47.350 ASSEMBLY. ACTING THE ACTION
01:30 - 49.460 REALLY REJECT THOSE MARKETS
01:30 - 51.640 WHEN IT CAME TO SPELL. WELL
01:30 - 53.470 RIGHT BACK TO WORK OUT FOR US
01:30 - 55.130 AND NEVER SAID ANYTHING
01:30 - 56.070 SPECIFIC.
01:31 - 05.170 FIREARMS AND THAT IS THE CASE
01:31 - 06.040 THAT WE HAVE.
01:31 - 08.790 SPENT TO USE ALL OF THEM ON
01:31 - 10.620 PAST MAGAZINE ORDINANCE THAT'S
01:31 - 12.590 WHAT DISTINGUISHES THIS CASE
01:31 - 13.340 AND EVERY
01:31 - 15.480 OTHER CASE IS DISCUSSED
01:31 - 16.830 IN GREECE THAT THIS BOARD HAS
01:31 - 18.540 DECIDED THAT IT'S A PERSON'S
01:31 - 20.490 BEFORE YOU SIGN UP BEFORE YOU
01:31 - 21.920 SIGN OFF CAN YOU TALK ABOUT
01:31 - 24.070 >>ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE
01:31 - 25.490 THAT SAYS IT'S NOT AN OPERATIVE
01:31 - 26.900 UNTIL THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
01:31 - 29.150 IN BLACK THING.
01:31 - 34.520 >>HE SAID THE ASSAULT WEAPON OF
01:31 - 36.570 OUR PAST THAT AND MORE AS THIS
01:31 - 39.260 2 SEPARATE PROVISIONS SIU
01:31 - 42.550 IS FOR A NICE UNDER CURRENT
01:31 - 43.710 LAW, IT'S NOT.
01:31 - 46.880 HIT US ALL UP AND SMART CLASSY
01:31 - 49.690 MANNEQUINS SO ONE SECTION OF
01:31 - 50.960 EACH ORDINANCE.
01:31 - 53.700 ACTUALLY WHO HOPE TO GET MORE
01:31 - 55.420 POSITIVE MAGAZINES AND ASSAULT
01:31 - 57.730 WEAPONS. AND IT'S CLEAR THAT IT
01:31 - 59.520 ONLY WILL TAKE EFFECT YOU CAN
01:31 - 02.740 LEARN THAT DECISION FROM THE IN
01:32 - 05.100 OR WHO ARE I CHANGED FROM
01:32 - 06.190 GENERAL ASSEMBLY
01:32 - 08.560 ALLOWS THAT SO THAT FOR EACH
01:32 - 09.760 ORDINANCE THAT DOES IS THAT
01:32 - 12.090 UNDER ARTICLE YOU DO THAT AND
01:32 - 13.540 THERE'S A SEPARATE PORTION OF
01:32 - 15.810 EACH ORDINANCE HAS LIMITED ONLY
01:32 - 18.380 TO STRIPPING USE ALL
01:32 - 20.380 THE PLACES ASSAULT WEAPONS AND
01:32 - 20.630 LARGE
01:32 - 22.630 CAPACITY MAGAZINES. I WORE
01:32 - 24.440 THOSE ORDINANCE MOST PARTS OF
01:32 - 26.400 EACH ORDINANCE TAKE IMMEDIATE
01:32 - 28.550 EFFECT ALTHOUGH I AGREEMENT.
01:32 - 30.680 WHILE THE CASE WAS PENDING IN
01:32 - 32.900 THE LOWER COURT. C SPAN
01:32 - 34.490 FORSMAN
01:32 - 37.060 OBVIOUSLY IT'S WAS CITED HAS
01:32 - 38.110 BEEN OF COURSE.
01:32 - 40.640 >>THERE IS NOT AN
01:32 - 42.380 OPERATIVE SECTION IS THERE
01:32 - 44.050 CONTROVERSY IN FRONT OF A THERE
01:32 - 45.230 ANYTHING THAT WE ARE TO
01:32 - 45.640 ADDRESSED.
01:32 - 47.610 >>WE DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY
01:32 - 49.750 CASE OR CONTROVERSY THERE YOUR
01:32 - 51.880 HONOR BECAUSE A CLOSE.
01:32 - 55.310 PORTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE ONLY
01:32 - 58.500 8% WHEN THERE'S CHANGE THE LAW.
01:32 - 02.570 GENERAL SO SO ARE YOU. THERE IS
01:33 - 04.270 NO CASE OR CONTROVERSY THERE.
01:33 - 05.920 AND SNOW.
01:33 - 08.850 YOU DON'T THINK PORT NEEDS TO
01:33 - 09.910 MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THAT WE
01:33 - 11.990 DO THINK THAT JUDGE JAMES AND A
01:33 - 14.350 LITTLE TOO FAR, I'M JUST SAYING
01:33 - 17.300 EVERY ASPECT ALL THE ORDINANCES
01:33 - 18.280 SPOT DOWN.
01:33 - 21.420 CAUSE WAS THAT YOUR
01:33 - 22.900 HONOR JUST REFERENCED ARE NOT
01:33 - 26.420 OFFERED IN HIS SENATE RACE TO
01:33 - 26.790 RENDER
01:33 - 28.460 A DECISION. NOW THERE ARE SOME
01:33 - 29.760 OTHER PORTIONS OF THE WORDS
01:33 - 29.930 THAT
01:33 - 32.540 WERE CHALLENGED. I'M GOING TO
01:33 - 34.520 SAY THIS WHOLE TIME.
01:33 - 38.250 >>YOU'RE WELL ON YOUR TIME.
01:33 - 39.910 YOUR HEART.
01:33 - 43.090 >>YES THANK YOU. RON. SO.
01:33 - 45.060 I WOULD JUST COME BACK TO WHERE
01:33 - 45.800 I STARTED.
01:33 - 48.990 AND SAY AND ULTIMATELY THE
01:33 - 51.720 QUESTION HERE. IS.
01:33 - 52.950 IS.
01:33 - 56.030 WHAT DO THE YELTSIN STARCHY
01:33 - 58.330 STATE WHAT IS YOUR SCHOOL AND
01:33 - 00.940 IN GENERAL, SO WE DO HERE AND
01:34 - 03.230 RECOGNIZE CERTAINLY AND THEY'RE
01:34 - 04.710 CALLING REACHING THE NUMBER OF
01:34 - 06.630 DECISIONS THIS OR YOU CAN FROM
01:34 - 09.720 THIS BEFORE THE SUN AS BACK TO
01:34 - 12.190 YOU THAT I LOOKED AT CLOSELY
01:34 - 13.720 ALL OF THOSE DECISIONS CONTROLS
01:34 - 15.720 THE OUTCOME YEAR OF THOSE
01:34 - 17.390 DECISIONS AS THEY ARE REACHED
01:34 - 19.500 THE ISSUE OF OVER REGULATION.
01:34 - 23.190 THE NARROW STARTED ALREADY USE.
01:34 - 24.380 FIREARMS.
01:34 - 27.030 I HEAR LIKE PAST RISING
01:34 - 29.170 AS WELL. HE'S OUTSIDE THE
01:34 - 31.730 SCHOOL OF MEDICINE AT THE NEWS
01:34 - 33.720 OF HIS POSSIBLE. AND YOU ARE.
01:34 - 37.520 >>ALL RIGHT, WE WILL HEAR
01:34 - 38.450 NOW FROM.
01:34 - 42.340 >>THANK YOU YOUR HONOR IT
01:34 - 43.680 PLEASE THE COURT I BRIAN BARNES
01:34 - 46.850 TO ANDERSON SEARCHERS WILL
01:34 - 47.410 BEGIN HIS
01:34 - 50.000 REMARKS BY SAYING THAT THE
01:34 - 51.540 PLACE TO START IN STATUTORY
01:34 - 52.940 INTERPRETATION CASES THAT
01:34 - 55.260 TESTED STACHE AND HE'S OF
01:34 - 56.490 COURSE RIGHT ABOUT THAT IN A
01:34 - 57.420 CASE WHERE.
01:34 - 02.170 NOVEL WHERE THE BEARS.
01:35 - 03.400 NO BINDING.
01:35 - 05.520 THIS OF A NEW SUPREME COURT
01:35 - 08.340 PRECEDENT AND ALREADY IN USE
01:35 - 09.910 THE STATUTORY TAX ISSUE.
01:35 - 12.050 BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE THAT
01:35 - 14.350 THE COURT HAS BEFORE. THERE WAS
01:35 - 15.570 DISCUSSION A MOMENT AGO
01:35 - 17.600 HIS CASE I THINK THAT THE
01:35 - 19.330 FOOTNOTE HERE I JUST MAKES
01:35 - 20.550 CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT
01:35 - 22.730 THERE IS HE'LL REVIEW IT IN
01:35 - 25.510 THIS AREA AND. THAT'S A
01:35 - 27.270 CONCLUSION THAT THE KIDS.
01:35 - 29.880 IS REITERATING WHAT WHAT.
01:35 - 31.780 WHAT HE SAID IN AND
01:35 - 36.380 >>AND IN INCORRECT. THAT.
01:35 - 39.320 >>IN THE WORDS, HE'S CASE THAT
01:35 - 39.650 THERE
01:35 - 42.730 WAS A. STEPS BEFORE THE
01:35 - 44.050 PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT THAT
01:35 - 45.820 REGULATED AMONG OTHER THINGS
01:35 - 48.060 THE USE OF FIREARMS
01:35 - 50.950 THE THE COURT THERE SAID THAT.
01:35 - 53.670 THE REGULATION OF THE USE OF
01:35 - 54.700 FIREARMS IS SOMETHING
01:35 - 57.080 THAT ONLY I COULD BE DONE BY
01:35 - 58.630 THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY THAT THIS
01:35 - 59.680 WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS GRANTED
01:35 - 00.280 BY SECTION
01:36 - 04.670 YOU KNOW MISTER FIRST ROLE SAID
01:36 - 05.290 THAT WELL.
01:36 - 07.570 THE THE FOCUS OF THAT CASE WAS
01:36 - 08.550 REALLY OVER THE
01:36 - 10.770 CONSTITUTION NOW OF SECTION
01:36 - 13.440 GOING RATHER GRIM. IT'S THE
01:36 - 15.260 SCOPE OF MENTION OF THAT STATUE
01:36 - 17.980 IN ONE THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT
01:36 - 19.150 THAT IS THAT.
01:36 - 20.750 REALLY
01:36 - 23.650 UNDER 61 THAT THE UH -14 SAME
01:36 - 25.570 SERIES STARTING POINT YOU KNOW
01:36 - 26.930 ALL SAYS WAS
01:36 - 28.570 I THINK THE FIRST SENTENCE OF
01:36 - 30.020 THE COURT'S OPINION IN WHICH HE
01:36 - 30.770 SAYS THIS.
01:36 - 32.980 THE THE ORDINANCE IS THAT
01:36 - 33.430 BEFORE THE
01:36 - 35.910 COURT THERE WHO IN CONFLICT TO
01:36 - 37.850 AN END WHERE DOGS WE HAVE SENT
01:36 - 40.740 THE TEXT OF 6128. AND THIS
01:36 - 42.160 COURT IS OBVIOUSLY NOW
01:36 - 44.670 BY I'M HOLDING
01:36 - 47.660 I THINK YOU KNOW IF THERE WERE
01:36 - 47.830 ANY
01:36 - 51.920 >>BUT IN OR TEAM, THE SUPREME
01:36 - 52.980 COURT WOULD NOT.
01:36 - 55.970 GIVING A
01:36 - 57.500 SPECIFIC CONSTRUCTION OF
01:36 - 59.540 OWNERSHIP POSSESSION TRANSFER.
01:36 - 02.260 GRAHAM. AND THEY JUST USING THE
01:37 - 04.180 WORD YOU I WANT
01:37 - 06.780 TO PLAY TO THE CRIME. WHAT WHY.
01:37 - 10.420 WELL YOUR HONOR I
01:37 - 10.930 THINK B.
01:37 - 12.490 >>THE PHILADELPHIA BOARD AND
01:37 - 14.710 CITY ISSUE NOR TEASE ITSELF.
01:37 - 17.920 A REGULATED QUOTE THE NOOSE OF
01:37 - 21.450 FIRE AND SO. AGAIN IT'S IT'S
01:37 - 24.050 TRUE THAT THE THE LOCUS OF THE
01:37 - 25.680 BRIEFING IN THAT CASE WAS
01:37 - 27.050 FOCUSED ON THIS CONSTITUTIONAL
01:37 - 28.720 QUESTION THAT THE ONLY WAY YOU
01:37 - 29.950 GET TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL
01:37 - 32.580 QUESTION OR IN ORTIZ OFF FIRSTS
01:37 - 35.060 STARTING FROM THE PREMISE THAT.
01:37 - 38.020 AND SENT INCLUDING THE
01:37 - 39.100 PROVISION OF THE ORDINANCE THE
01:37 - 42.600 REGULATED USE. AND ONCE THAT
01:37 - 44.690 WAS PREEMPTED BY RONDO HAS WITH
01:37 - 47.250 THE JETS TO SECTION AND SO
01:37 - 49.790 FOR THAT REASON I THINK 40'S IS
01:37 - 52.540 REALLY DIRECTLY TO ONE EVEN
01:37 - 54.700 WITH RESPECT TO PITTSBURGH'S
01:37 - 57.120 REGULATIONS IN IF THERE ARE ANY
01:37 - 59.000 QUESTION ABOUT THAT I WOULD
01:37 - 01.330 POINT TO THIS COURT'S DECISIONS
01:38 - 03.170 WHICH HAVE REPEATEDLY CONSTRUE
01:38 - 05.970 WORKS IT IS. REACHING THE KIND
01:38 - 07.560 OF ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE IN
01:38 - 10.340 THIS THERE'S THAT THE JEALOUSY
01:38 - 11.090 CASE SAID
01:38 - 12.530 OPINION FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS
01:38 - 13.610 AGO, I BELIEVE THE CHANGE IN
01:38 - 14.350 HOLLOW ROAD
01:38 - 17.880 OPINION THERE SAYS THE NEW
01:38 - 20.360 STUFF. PERSONAL PROTECTION
01:38 - 23.850 A PROPER SUBJECT TO REGULATION
01:38 - 24.890 BY MUNICIPALITIES.
01:38 - 28.160 THERE'S THE DOING HE'S DOING
01:38 - 29.510 AGAIN CITY OF THE YEAR IN AND
01:38 - 31.610 THEY SEE THE SCHOOL. I WEAR
01:38 - 33.290 THIS COURT DID THAT.
01:38 - 35.640 A LOCAL ORDINANCE
01:38 - 37.500 AGAIN REGULATED AMONG OTHER
01:38 - 39.260 THINGS THE USE OF FIREARMS IN
01:38 - 41.630 PUBLIC PARKS IS BRAND NEW IT
01:38 - 43.600 SAID QUOTE SECTION 61 POINT
01:38 - 46.170 GAME RIOS ALL FIRE REGULATION
01:38 - 47.290 BY BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
01:38 - 49.330 AND SO AND THERE AGAIN YOU SEE
01:38 - 53.240 THE COURT MAKING CLEAR WHICH IS
01:38 - 54.470 USE THAT OF COURSE THERE'S THE
01:38 - 56.640 CLARK CASE WHERE. THE SPORT
01:38 - 58.110 COURT PERHAPS DAVID ITS MOST
01:38 - 01.250 EXTENSIVE CONSTRUCTION BUT
01:39 - 02.980 AGAIN JUST FOLLOWING THE
01:39 - 04.170 PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT'S
01:39 - 05.550 LEE AND WHAT HE'S SAYING THAT
01:39 - 07.320 THE REGULATION AND SOMETHING
01:39 - 09.650 THAT BOTH SECTION 61 20 AM
01:39 - 11.710 BINDING PRESS. I THINK REST.
01:39 - 14.210 MADE I HAVE MADE CLEAR IS AN
01:39 - 16.880 AREA SATELITE SOON WHICH THE
01:39 - 18.280 GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS A SIN,
01:39 - 20.440 SEOUL REGULARS BREAK OUT.
01:39 - 23.950 THIS COURT CASES HAVE JUST BEEN
01:39 - 25.860 REPEATED AND VERY CLEAR THAT
01:39 - 27.940 THIS IS AN AREA LOCAL
01:39 - 28.990 GOVERNMENTS JUST CAN'T
01:39 - 32.310 AND I THINK IT'S WORTH GIVING
01:39 - 34.420 THAT THE EXTENT TO WHICH HE.
01:39 - 36.130 CITIES ARGUMENTS ARE
01:39 - 38.400 INCONSISTENT WITH THE DECISIONS
01:39 - 39.450 OF THIS COURT I THINK IT'S
01:39 - 41.230 WORTH PAUSING TO REFLECT THE
01:39 - 43.180 REASONS WHY WE HAVE STARTING
01:39 - 44.550 PRICES AND PARTICULARLY.
01:39 - 53.010 >>ISSUE A FIELD 03:00AM.
01:39 - 56.510 I WOULD THINK OR TO PICK
01:39 - 58.240 CATEGORY. A DRAFT.
01:39 - 01.860 IMPLY A LIMITATION ON THE
01:40 - 06.420 SO OF THE 3 M. WELL I I
01:40 - 07.440 >>IT'S
01:40 - 10.420 ARE YOU WITH RESPECT TO EXPRESS
01:40 - 11.810 CREATION, BUT I THINK IT'S
01:40 - 12.550 IMPORTANT TO.
01:40 - 14.810 FOCUS ON THE DISTINCTION
01:40 - 16.220 BETWEEN THOSE 2 CATEGORIES
01:40 - 17.670 FIELD AND BREAST REDUCTION AND
01:40 - 17.720 A
01:40 - 19.330 FOCUS ON WHAT DID THE
01:40 - 21.080 LEGISLATURE SAY IN THESE 4
01:40 - 22.530 CATEGORIES AND WE'RE TALKING
01:40 - 25.680 ABOUT OWNERSHIP THE TRICK IS TO
01:40 - 27.460 TRANSPORTATION. THESE
01:40 - 29.410 VERY BROAD TERMS THAT ARE
01:40 - 31.050 BROUGHT I I WOULD SUBMIT TO
01:40 - 33.180 REALLY HOLD THE WATER. THAT'S
01:40 - 34.690 NEARLY HALF OF THE HARBOR.
01:40 - 35.270 STUART.
01:40 - 39.260 I THINK IT THAT'S THAT'S A
01:40 - 40.570 MANNER IN WHICH SOMEONE.
01:40 - 43.920 POSSESSES THEIR FIREARM YEAH,
01:40 - 46.200 HOW DO YOU STORE YOUR FIREARM.
01:40 - 49.180 IS WE CAN TO GROW AS A SUBSET
01:40 - 51.640 OF POSSESSION ROOM. IS I THINK
01:40 - 53.350 WAS WAS A VERY 2 OF THEM.
01:40 - 54.740 A LITTLE EARLIER ALL
01:40 - 56.700 THE SAME GOES FOR USE IT'S VERY
01:40 - 58.230 DIFFICULT TO USE A FIREARM
01:40 - 59.720 ABOUT THIS AND.
01:41 - 02.050 SO YOU KNOW I THINK MOST
01:41 - 03.420 NATIONAL READING OF THE TEXT
01:41 - 07.420 IT COVERS USE IN THE OTHER
01:41 - 08.300 THINGS THAT PITTSBURGH IS
01:41 - 09.380 TRYING TO REGULATE HERE.
01:41 - 10.070 BUT.
01:41 - 13.370 I MAKE THE POINT THAT.
01:41 - 16.520 IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE FOR THIS
01:41 - 18.780 COURT TO VISIT IT'S REPEATED
01:41 - 20.930 STATEMENTS ON ON THIS ISSUE I
01:41 - 23.520 AND THE REASON. I WOULD SUBMIT
01:41 - 24.530 FOR THAT IS THAT.
01:41 - 27.280 THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
01:41 - 28.560 RELIANCE THAT HAS BUILT UP
01:41 - 30.140 AROUND THE CASE ON THE
01:41 - 32.450 SYRIAN HIM I WENT TO COURT IN
01:41 - 33.630 PARTICULAR TODAY AND THAT IS
01:41 - 35.080 FREE FROM THE PENNSYLVANIA
01:41 - 37.410 HOUSE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS, WE'RE
01:41 - 39.360 UP TO THAT AND THE DISTRICT
01:41 - 41.050 GOES THROUGH EXPLAINS TELL.
01:41 - 42.760 PENNSYLVANIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY
01:41 - 45.650 HAS HAS LEGISLATIVE BACKDROP
01:41 - 46.540 UNDERSTANDING THAT.
01:41 - 49.460 GUN REGULATION IS SOMETHING
01:41 - 51.170 THAT THEY'RE SOLELY RESPONSE
01:41 - 54.810 DONORS AS WELL OR AND
01:41 - 57.030 LANCE ON I UNDERSTOOD
01:41 - 58.840 YOU KNOW WHEN SOMEONE DECIDES
01:41 - 00.760 WE'RE LIVE DECIDES WHAT FIREARM
01:42 - 02.640 TO TO PURCHASE THAT AND THEY'RE
01:42 - 05.330 YOU KNOW RESPONSIBLE FOR
01:42 - 06.970 FOLLOWING STATE LAW AND
01:42 - 08.770 THE INTENT. WE SEARCHED A
01:42 - 10.550 PATCHWORK OF LOCAL ORDINANCES
01:42 - 12.390 ABOUT. YOU
01:42 - 14.990 KNOW WHAT CAN IT BE POSSESSED
01:42 - 17.420 AND OR USE IN ONE JURISDICTION
01:42 - 18.270 VERSUS THEM.
01:42 - 21.310 AND IT'S ALSO WORTH REFLECTING
01:42 - 25.100 THE REASONS WHY COURTS APPLY A
01:42 - 27.420 PARTICULARLY STRONG A SCHOOL
01:42 - 28.840 STARTS ISIS AND STASHED TO
01:42 - 30.490 INTERPRETATION CONTACTS IF
01:42 - 32.860 THE LEGISLATURE THAT THE WAY TO
01:42 - 34.840 SCORE AND THE CONSERVATIVE
01:42 - 36.350 SUPREME COURT IN ORTIZ IT COMES
01:42 - 39.670 TO 1661 20 DAYS, MOM.
01:42 - 41.990 THAT IT'S TAKEN AS A POLICY
01:42 - 43.390 MATTER THE LEGISLATURE COULD
01:42 - 45.340 EASILY CHANGE THAT YOU KNOW
01:42 - 46.860 THIS ISN'T A SITUATION REALLY
01:42 - 47.670 POROUS.
01:42 - 49.850 REVISITING PERHAPS A
01:42 - 51.120 CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION THAT
01:42 - 52.570 ONLY WERE THE PENNSYLVANIA
01:42 - 54.100 SUPREME COURT COULD LEAVE HIM.
01:42 - 56.030 AND THE ONLY THING TO NOTE
01:42 - 57.740 IS THAT ANY TIME WE'RE TALKING
01:42 - 59.890 ABOUT THIS STORY IS A STATUE
01:42 - 02.410 OR CERTAINLY. REVISITING HOW
01:43 - 03.960 STATUE HAS BEEN CONSIDERED AN
01:43 - 04.670 ASS.
01:43 - 07.590 THERE'S NECESSARILY AND YOU
01:43 - 09.280 REDUCE A POLITICALLY OF A
01:43 - 11.570 POLICY-MAKING SPECTRUM THAT HAD
01:43 - 13.440 TO BE EXERCISED THERE AND
01:43 - 14.570 THERE'S A SERIOUS SEPARATED
01:43 - 16.050 POWERS FROM WHEN.
01:43 - 18.740 OVERTURNS IS PART OF
01:43 - 21.350 CONSTRUCTIONS OF OF SHEEP.
01:43 - 23.750 BASICALLY ON A PERIOD OF
01:43 - 24.470 UNINTERRUPTED
01:43 - 26.890 >>CAN YOU CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT
01:43 - 29.040 PART OF THE ORDINANCES THAT ARE
01:43 - 30.790 NOT OPERATIVE AND WHETHER WE
01:43 - 32.630 SHOULD BE ADDRESSING BACK TO
01:43 - 33.370 THE ORDINANCES.
01:43 - 36.600 >>SURE YEAH AND AND THIS IS AN
01:43 - 39.170 >>WHO KNEW CLASS OF THE LAW.
01:43 - 42.980 WE NEED TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN
01:43 - 46.090 THE DISCO. THE CHALLENGE THAT
01:43 - 47.310 WE BROUGHT HIM IN WHICH
01:43 - 48.430 PROVISIONS OF THE ORDINANCE WE
01:43 - 50.240 HAVE STANDING TO CHALLENGE ON
01:43 - 52.710 THE ONE HAND VERSUS THAT THE
01:43 - 54.160 APPROPRIATE SEVERABILITY NOW
01:43 - 54.940 SAYS SOME THE OTHER.
01:43 - 56.240 AND AND
01:43 - 59.730 THE WAY I WOULD THINK ABOUT IT
01:43 - 00.750 I THINK THE RIGHT WAY TO LOOK
01:44 - 02.620 AT THE SITE THESE PROPOSITIONS
01:44 - 05.090 STILL HE THE PENNSYLVANIA
01:44 - 06.180 SUPREME COURT DECISION.
01:44 - 10.940 WHAT'S THE COURT CONCLUDES THAT
01:44 - 12.930 SOME PORTION OF THE ORDINANCE
01:44 - 15.480 IS INVALID. YOU KNOW AS
01:44 - 17.730 IS PREEMPTED THEN THE INQUIRY
01:44 - 19.720 BASICALLY BECOMES NOT WHAT'S
01:44 - 21.260 THE SCOPE OF THE CHALLENGE AND
01:44 - 23.320 YOU KNOW WE THROW OUT EVERY
01:44 - 24.590 TEACHER OF THE ORDINANCE IS THE
01:44 - 25.800 LATEST CHALLENGE INSTEAD THE
01:44 - 28.400 QUESTION IS. ARE THERE OTHER
01:44 - 30.270 FEATURES OF THE ORDINANCE THAT
01:44 - 32.570 ARE THEMSELVES NOW
01:44 - 34.690 I WITHOUT SO REALLY REFERENCE
01:44 - 37.390 TO DISCO. THE CHALLENGE OF THE
01:44 - 38.850 PLAINTIFFS WHO BROUGHT IN HERE.
01:44 - 41.280 I THINK JUST SEEMS WAS EXACTLY
01:44 - 43.300 RIGHT LENA BECAUSE THERE'S 2 OF
01:44 - 44.860 THEM SHOULDN'T SYRIA. IT
01:44 - 45.540 NECESSARILY
01:44 - 47.530 FOLLOWS THAT ALL THESE
01:44 - 48.550 DIVISIONS, INCLUDING AN
01:44 - 49.810 OPERATIVE ONES BECAUSE THEY
01:44 - 52.110 REGULATE FIRE I WAS IN AN AREA
01:44 - 53.290 THE PENNSYLVANIA GENERAL
01:44 - 54.210 ASSEMBLY IS RESERVED
01:44 - 56.650 TO ITSELF. THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT
01:44 - 59.710 AND SO I THINK IT JUST REALLY
01:44 - 01.280 REWARDING THIS IS EXACTLY
01:45 - 01.690 CORRECT.
01:45 - 08.340 I SEE THAT I COULD SEE MY TIMES
01:45 - 09.840 ALL OVER BRITAIN, THIS
01:45 - 10.500 DIFFERENCE.
01:45 - 16.920 GOOD MORNING MAY PLEASE THE
01:45 - 18.900 COURT ON THAT JET FOR PRINCE
01:45 - 20.320 AND I REPRESENT THE PELLYS
01:45 - 22.020 FIREARM OWNERS AGAINST CRIME AT
01:45 - 24.880 ALL IN DOCKET NUMBER 1754 CD
01:45 - 26.330 2019.
01:45 - 28.560 >>BREVITY I'LL TRY NOT TO
01:45 - 29.970 REHASH THE ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE
01:45 - 31.740 ALREADY BEEN MADE OBVIOUSLY TO
01:45 - 33.450 THE EXTENT ANY AND YOUR HONOR'S
01:45 - 34.680 HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M MORE
01:45 - 37.590 THAN HAPPY ADDRESS THOSE, BUT I
01:45 - 39.620 WOULD LIKE TO START IN RELATION
01:45 - 40.440 TO STANDING.
01:45 - 43.000 ABOUT WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT
01:45 - 45.080 THE APPELLANTS HAVE CONCEDED
01:45 - 46.610 THAT FARM OWNERS AGAINST CRIME
01:45 - 47.190 AT ALL
01:45 - 49.560 HAVE STANDING TO CHALLENGE ALL
01:45 - 50.930 THE ORDINANCES WITH ONE
01:45 - 52.770 EXCEPTION OF THE EXTREME RISK
01:45 - 54.790 PROTECTION ORDER ORDINANCE
01:45 - 57.260 WHICH WAS IN 2018 DASH 12,
01:45 - 59.270 ONE KEY. AND WE HAVE ADDRESS
01:45 - 00.990 THAT EXTENSIVELY IN OUR
01:46 - 02.840 BRIEFING. IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK
01:46 - 04.980 AT THAT ORDINANCE IT PROVIDES 8
01:46 - 07.550 AS THE AS THE APPELLANT'S CLAIM
01:46 - 08.660 NON DISPOSITIVE
01:46 - 11.480 CRITERIA FACTORS TO WHICH
01:46 - 13.770 A COURT CAN'T MORE AN EXTREME
01:46 - 15.670 RISK PROTECTION ORDER WHEREBY
01:46 - 16.890 IT WOULD DISPOSSESS THE
01:46 - 18.880 INDIVIDUAL OF ALL THEIR
01:46 - 21.820 FIREARMS. ALL OF CRITERIA.
01:46 - 23.430 ONE IS THE FACT THAT AN
01:46 - 25.340 INDIVIDUAL RECENTLY PURCHASED A
01:46 - 28.060 FIREARM THE OTHER IS THE FACT
01:46 - 29.970 THAT THE INDIVIDUAL UTILIZES A
01:46 - 32.370 FIREARM IN HIS OR HER
01:46 - 34.340 EMPLOYMENT. SO LET'S THINK
01:46 - 35.500 ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND.
01:46 - 37.830 THE EXERCISE OF A
01:46 - 41.230 CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT IS A BASIS
01:46 - 43.360 TO STRIP AN INDIVIDUAL. ALL
01:46 - 45.120 THAT SAME EXACT A
01:46 - 47.470 CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. THAT IS
01:46 - 48.200 OBSCENE.
01:46 - 51.420 AND AS ALL OF OUR INDIVIDUAL
01:46 - 53.820 PLAINTIFFS HAVE AVERAGE AND AS
01:46 - 56.000 THE TRIAL COURT FOUND. THEY
01:46 - 57.870 EACH PURCHASED A FIREARM
01:46 - 00.040 RECENTLY AND ONE OF OUR
01:47 - 01.930 INDIVIDUAL PLAINTIFFS IS
01:47 - 03.980 EMPLOYED IN THE CAPACITY WERE
01:47 - 05.710 YOU MUST POSSESS FIREARMS.
01:47 - 11.090 COMPREHENSION HOW THE
01:47 - 13.180 3 INDIVIDUAL PLAINTIFFS WHO ARE
01:47 - 14.480 ALSO MEMBERS OF THE
01:47 - 15.940 ORGANIZATIONAL PLAINTIFFS IN
01:47 - 18.290 THIS CASE DO NOT HAVE STANDING
01:47 - 19.810 TO CHALLENGE THE EXTREME RISK
01:47 - 22.190 PROTECTION ORDER AND IN FACT A
01:47 - 23.790 SIMILAR PROVISION WAS ALREADY
01:47 - 25.050 ADDRESSED BY THIS COURT.
01:47 - 26.800 IT'S FOR HER SON'S HOUSE OF
01:47 - 29.260 REPRESENTATIVES, THERE. THE
01:47 - 31.500 CITY OF PHILADELPHIA HAD PASSED
01:47 - 32.810 AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD
01:47 - 34.650 DISPOSSESSED INDIVIDUALS OF
01:47 - 36.420 THEIR FIREARMS. IF IT WAS A
01:47 - 38.290 LEDGE THEY POSED A RISK TO
01:47 - 40.610 THEMSELVES OR OTHERS. THIS.
01:47 - 42.130 STRAW THAT
01:47 - 44.420 ORDINANCE DOWN FINDING THAT IT
01:47 - 46.630 VIOLATED PREEMPTION AND THE
01:47 - 48.130 PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT
01:47 - 50.180 WITH GREATER AFFIRM THAT
01:47 - 52.030 DECISION SO I DON'T BELIEVE
01:47 - 52.540 THERE CAN BE
01:47 - 56.440 ANY DISPUTE THAT ORDINANCE 2018
01:47 - 57.610 DASH 1220
01:47 - 00.370 IS VILE OF PREEMPTION BASED ON
01:48 - 02.140 BINDING PRECEDENT FROM THE
01:48 - 03.580 PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT AS
01:48 - 05.580 WELL AS THIS COURT. FURTHER
01:48 - 07.400 AS WE DISCUSS IN OUR BRIEF
01:48 - 10.710 BATTLING. IN RELATION TO USE AS
01:48 - 11.320 THIS COURT HAS
01:48 - 13.690 ALREADY NOTED THE PENNSYLVANIA
01:48 - 15.350 SUPREME COURT IN COMMONWEALTH
01:48 - 18.780 BE ORTIZ ALREADY ADDRESSED USE
01:48 - 19.250 AS
01:48 - 22.630 WELL AS RESTRICTIONS ON ASSAULT
01:48 - 24.300 WEAPONS AND LARGE CAPACITY
01:48 - 25.220 MAGAZINES AND
01:48 - 27.040 FIREARM ACCESSORIES WHAT'S
01:48 - 29.160 INTERESTING IS THOUGH HELENS
01:48 - 30.730 HAD ACKNOWLEDGED THIS IN THEIR
01:48 - 32.540 TRIAL COURT BRIEF AND WE POINT
01:48 - 34.240 THAT OUT IN OUR BRIEF. THEY
01:48 - 36.070 FAILED TO ADMIT THAT BEFORE
01:48 - 37.780 THIS COURT. BUT IT IS
01:48 - 40.420 ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT WHEN THE
01:48 - 41.480 PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME
01:48 - 44.340 COURT ADDRESS. THE PHILADELPHIA
01:48 - 46.000 AND PITTSBURGH ORDINANCES IN
01:48 - 48.260 ORTIZ THEY WERE ADDRESSING
01:48 - 50.930 USE NOW THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER
01:48 - 53.200 OF QUESTIONS RAISED IN RELATION
01:48 - 54.430 TO BOTH FIELD AND
01:48 - 56.070 EXPRESSED PREEMPTION AND MY
01:48 - 57.690 CLIENTS CHALLENGE BOTH UNDER
01:48 - 59.620 FIELD AND EXPRESSED PREEMPTION
01:48 - 01.680 I BELIEVE THE DIFFERENCE WITH
01:49 - 03.430 ALL THOSE ARGUMENTS IS REALLY
01:49 - 06.210 DEPENDING UPON HOW YOU VIEW THE
01:49 - 08.480 CASE AND THE DIFFERENT STATUTES
01:49 - 10.150 AND CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISIONS
01:49 - 12.250 THAT ARE IN PLAY FOR
01:49 - 13.580 EXPRESSED PREEMPTION
01:49 - 16.970 WE TURN TO 18 P A C S SECTION
01:49 - 19.980 6120, 53 P A C S
01:49 - 23.350 2962 AS WELL AS ARTICLE ONE
01:49 - 25.490 SECTION 21. THE PENNSYLVANIA
01:49 - 27.830 CONSTITUTION. WHEREAS WHAT WE
01:49 - 30.640 TURN TO FEEL PREEMPTION WE'RE
01:49 - 30.940 NOW
01:49 - 33.360 LOOKING AT THE UNIFORM FIREARMS
01:49 - 35.580 ACT WHICH IS FOUNDED 18 P A C S
01:49 - 38.870 SECTION ONE ITS ACT AS WELL AS
01:49 - 40.730 OTHER STATUTES, INCLUDING.
01:49 - 42.600 DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS, IT
01:49 - 44.770 RANGES IN SUCH LIKE THAT THAT
01:49 - 46.030 THE COMMONWEALTH THROUGH THE
01:49 - 48.280 GENERAL ASSEMBLY AS AN ACTIVE.
01:49 - 49.580 AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
01:49 - 51.660 UNIFORM FIREARMS ACT IT BECOMES
01:49 - 53.960 CLEAR IF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY
01:49 - 56.230 INTENDED OCCUPIED THE ENTIRE
01:49 - 58.430 FIELD. A FIREARM REGULATIONS
01:49 - 00.370 AND IS A POINT OF FACT
01:50 - 01.770 WE SEE AGREE THAT SECTION
01:50 - 04.420 6115 FOR THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY
01:50 - 05.760 GAVE THE PENNSYLVANIA STATE
01:50 - 07.180 POLICE THE AUTHORITY TO
01:50 - 09.760 REGULATE UNDER UNIFORM FIREARMS
01:50 - 12.490 ACT IN SECTION 61 O 9 WHICH IS
01:50 - 14.400 ARE LICENSED TO CARRY FIREARMS
01:50 - 16.320 STATUTES. WE SEE THAT ONCE
01:50 - 18.010 AGAIN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY
01:50 - 20.210 LIMITED WHO COULD REGULATE
01:50 - 22.370 THE APPLICATION FOR A LICENSE
01:50 - 24.270 TO CARRY IN SPECIFIED ONLY THAT
01:50 - 26.080 THE PENNSYLVANIA STATE POLICE
01:50 - 28.110 COULD PROMULGATED THAT FORM
01:50 - 30.480 SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FIELD
01:50 - 31.720 PREEMPTION THAT EXISTS. IT
01:50 - 32.840 SEEMS THE BEEN DONE REALLY
01:50 - 35.270 CLEAR THE UNIFORM FIREARMS ACT
01:50 - 37.890 USE IN FACT FIELD
01:50 - 40.500 PREEMPTION STATUTE MOREOVER
01:50 - 41.200 WHEN
01:50 - 44.030 THE OPPONENTS SAY THAT IN
01:50 - 45.380 HOFFMAN MINDING THE
01:50 - 46.670 PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT
01:50 - 49.310 DIDN'T MENTION FIELD PREEMPTION
01:50 - 51.260 IN RELATION TO THE UNIFORM
01:50 - 52.690 FIREARMS ACT AND THEREFORE IT
01:50 - 54.560 MUST NOT BE THE CASE THAT
01:50 - 57.270 IT EXISTS. ONE IGNORES THE FACT
01:50 - 58.480 THAT THE PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME
01:50 - 00.440 COURT HAD ALREADY FOUND EXPRESS
01:51 - 02.320 PREEMPTION EXISTS PURSUANT TO
01:51 - 05.380 ARTICLE ONE SECTION 2118 UPI
01:51 - 08.550 ACS SECTION 6140. ALSO IF
01:51 - 09.960 WE WERE TO TAKE THE APPELLATE
01:51 - 11.570 ARGUMENTS AT FACE VALUE
01:51 - 12.690 THAT WOULD MEAN THE
01:51 - 14.130 PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT'S
01:51 - 15.480 MORE RECENT DECISION IN
01:51 - 20.050 2019 IN PPL ELECTRIC UTILITIES
01:51 - 20.670 COMPANY.
01:51 - 24.010 THAT DID YOU SEE THE PUBLIC
01:51 - 25.130 UTILITY COMMISSION.
01:51 - 29.110 WAS A FIELD PREEMPTION STATUTE
01:51 - 31.350 WOULD BE NULL AND VOID BECAUSE
01:51 - 33.420 HOW IF THEY DIDN'T SPECIFY THAT
01:51 - 36.290 THE P YOU SEE WAS IT PREEMPTION
01:51 - 38.600 STATUTE BACK. YOU DO WHEN IT
01:51 - 40.170 DECIDED HOFFMAN MINING COULD
01:51 - 41.870 THEY FIND THAT AND WE
01:51 - 43.230 BELIEVE THAT TO THE EXTENT IT
01:51 - 45.190 EVEN BECOMES NECESSARY TO
01:51 - 47.440 ADDRESS FIELD PREEMPTION THE
01:51 - 48.600 PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT
01:51 - 49.860 WOULD LIKEWISE FINE
01:51 - 51.690 THE UNIFORM FIREARMS ACT AND
01:51 - 53.330 OTHER STATUTES THAT EXISTS
01:51 - 54.680 SIMILAR IN NATURE TO IT.
01:51 - 56.600 A RELATIVE TO REGULATING
01:51 - 58.850 FIREARMS CONSTITUTE ABSOLUTE
01:51 - 00.320 FIELD KOREAN SHIP THAT'S
01:52 - 00.870 CONSISTENT.
01:52 - 03.700 >>THAT WOULD BE RIGHT NOW AS I
01:52 - 04.510 UNDERSTAND IT.
01:52 - 09.110 UNDER HOCHMAN MINING. PHIL
01:52 - 14.290 LIVE ONLY WITH PERFECT. A HOT
01:52 - 18.760 MINING AND BANKING. WOULD
01:52 - 19.440 THAT BE.
01:52 - 22.590 ADDING A WHOLE NEW CATEGORY.
01:52 - 24.410 >>THAT IS CORRECT AGREE
01:52 - 26.100 WITH THAT. YES YOUR HONOR, NO
01:52 - 27.300 DIFFERENT THAN THE PENNSYLVANIA
01:52 - 29.280 SUPREME COURT DID IN PPL
01:52 - 31.310 ELECTRIC UTILITIES CORPORATION
01:52 - 34.120 IN 2019 AND WE ADDRESS THAT IN
01:52 - 34.540 OUR BREAK.
01:52 - 37.120 BECAUSE AGAIN THAT YOU SEE WAS
01:52 - 38.420 NOT MENTIONED IN HOFFMAN
01:52 - 38.740 MINING.
01:52 - 41.670 NOW I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO
01:52 - 42.960 ADDRESS THE ONE ISSUE.
01:52 - 45.540 THAT THE APPELLANTS RAISED IN
01:52 - 47.040 RELATION TO THEIR ALLEGED
01:52 - 49.270 SELF-DEFENSE PROVISION THERE
01:52 - 51.530 TRULY IS NO SELF-DEFENSE
01:52 - 53.030 PROVISION IN THIS ACT AS WE
01:52 - 54.590 ADDRESS IN OUR BRIEF ALTHOUGH
01:52 - 56.730 IT DOES MENTION SELF-DEFENSE
01:52 - 58.710 WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AND WHAT
01:52 - 00.770 MUST OCCUR FOR ONE TO BE ABLE
01:53 - 02.500 TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR
01:53 - 04.730 THAT DEFENSE. THEY MUST BE
01:53 - 06.510 ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN AN ACT
01:53 - 08.300 OF SELF-DEFENSE SO IF ONE
01:53 - 10.530 ACTUALLY HAS A LOADED MAGAZINE
01:53 - 12.590 IN THEIR FIREARM FOR PURPOSES
01:53 - 14.400 OF SELF-DEFENSE THAT IS NOT
01:53 - 16.630 SUFFICIENT TO EXEMPT THEM UNDER
01:53 - 18.300 THE SELF-DEFENSE PROVISION.
01:53 - 24.060 LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE DOES
01:53 - 26.370 NOT INCLUDE LARGE CAPACITY
01:53 - 28.410 MAGAZINES OR FARM ACCESSORIES
01:53 - 29.300 FOR DIFFERENT FORMS
01:53 - 31.580 OF AMMUNITION. IT SAYS THE
01:53 - 33.760 DEFENSE ONLY APPLIES TO A FIRE
01:53 - 36.130 OR AND AGAIN WE ADDRESS THIS
01:53 - 38.120 EXTENSIVELY IN OUR BRIEFING AND
01:53 - 40.830 THIS IS CLEARLY IN VIOLATION OF
01:53 - 41.970 THE CV HELLER
01:53 - 44.720 IN THERE. THERE ARE CLEARLY THE
01:53 - 46.000 COURT TO FIND THAT KEEP AND
01:53 - 47.880 BEAR ARMS INCLUDED BEING ABLE
01:53 - 49.800 TO KEEP THE FIREARM LOADED IN
01:53 - 51.880 ONE'S POCKET FOR PURPOSES OF
01:53 - 54.070 ARMED CONFLICT AND AGAIN THAT'S
01:53 - 56.210 BEEN ADDRESSED IT WAS SENSIBLY
01:53 - 57.880 IN OUR BRIEFS.
01:53 - 00.310 THE OTHER ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO
01:54 - 00.630 TOUCH
01:54 - 03.540 ON BRIEFLY IS THE SPRING
01:54 - 05.600 PROVISION OF SOME OF THESE.
01:54 - 08.110 ORDINANCES AND I BELIEVE THEY
01:54 - 10.100 YOU NEED TO BE STRUCK DOWN IN
01:54 - 11.630 THE COURT DOES HAVE STANDING TO
01:54 - 13.170 DO OR WE HAVE STANDING TO DO
01:54 - 13.470 THAT IN
01:54 - 15.900 THE COURT. CAN AFFIRM THAT
01:54 - 17.230 DECISION AS THIS COURT HAS DONE
01:54 - 19.320 THAT IN THE PAST IN RELATION TO
01:54 - 21.280 CLARK AND AS I WELL I BELIEVE
01:54 - 22.450 ALSO A NATIONAL RIFLE
01:54 - 24.310 ASSOCIATION. THERE WERE THESE
01:54 - 26.790 SPRING PROVISIONS PUT BEYOND
01:54 - 28.090 THE COURT HAVING THAT
01:54 - 31.100 AUTHORITY THE ISSUE WITH IT IS
01:54 - 31.200 THE
01:54 - 33.290 CHILLING EFFECT THAT IS CAUSED
01:54 - 35.130 BY THE EXISTENCE OF THOSE
01:54 - 37.150 PROVISIONS BECAUSE IF SOMEONE
01:54 - 39.620 ATTEMPTS TO REVIEW THE LAW AND
01:54 - 41.650 SEIZE THOSE PROVISIONS IT
01:54 - 44.210 DOESN'T SAY IMMEDIATELY THERE
01:54 - 46.360 IT ONLY BECOMES EFFECTIVE WHEN
01:54 - 48.200 THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AUTHORIZES
01:54 - 49.610 IT YOU HAVE TO GO A COUPLE
01:54 - 51.070 PAGES LATER ON.
01:54 - 52.240 AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LAW
01:54 - 53.960 DEGREE TO UNDERSTAND WHICH IT
01:54 - 55.630 APPLIES TO BE ABLE TO
01:54 - 57.610 UNDERSTAND THE LAW MOST PEOPLE
01:54 - 59.020 READING THAT I WOULD
01:55 - 01.620 THIS IS PREEMPTED THEIR BIRTH
01:55 - 04.160 THIS IS WHO DID I KNOW I HAVE
01:55 - 06.690 THIS TYPE OF WEAPON IN THE CITY
01:55 - 08.620 AND WOULD END THERE AND THE
01:55 - 10.240 CITY NOTES THAT THAT'S THE
01:55 - 12.260 REASON WHY THE INACTIVITY AND
01:55 - 13.980 LET'S NOT FORGET THEY
01:55 - 16.800 OR REGULATING IN ENACTING THAT
01:55 - 20.310 PROVISION. RESTRICTIONS ON
01:55 - 21.930 FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION
01:55 - 24.340 AND I SEE HIM ABOUT OUT OF TIME
01:55 - 25.790 SO IF YOU'RE ON OR HAVE ANY
01:55 - 27.910 QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO WE
01:55 - 29.330 WOULD JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK
01:55 - 29.500 THAT
01:55 - 31.870 THE COURT AFFIRMED THE TRIAL
01:55 - 33.470 COURT'S DECISION THANK YOU ARE.
01:55 - 43.470 A FULL YEAR
01:55 - 46.330 A FEW POINTS I LIKE TO RESPOND
01:55 - 48.530 TO FIRST WITH RESPECT TO EASE.
01:55 - 51.630 >>ONE THROUGH 2 DIFFERENT
01:55 - 52.330 SECTIONS
01:55 - 54.560 OF THAT OPINION THAT I THINK
01:55 - 55.930 THAT'S CRUCIAL. I JUST WANT TO
01:55 - 57.070 UNDERSCORE THE POINT.
01:55 - 00.770 I DISAGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES
01:56 - 01.840 ON THE OTHER SIDE,
01:56 - 05.660 A TEASE I MISS OR NECESSARY.
01:56 - 07.850 I HOPE YOUR T'S DECISION.
01:56 - 10.760 SO IF I MEAN AND USE THE
01:56 - 12.620 N WORD. YOUR THIS
01:56 - 15.690 IS AIR. PRESLEY REGULATED
01:56 - 16.990 OWNERSHIP POSSESSION AND
01:56 - 17.880 TRANSFER ALL
01:56 - 20.430 3 OF THOSE ARE YOU ARE A BIG
01:56 - 23.160 CATEGORIES BOTH SECTION 61 ON E
01:56 - 26.440 AND 20 NIGHTS. AND WHEN THE
01:56 - 29.300 COURT LATER TALKS ABOUT OH YEAH
01:56 - 31.650 AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IT E
01:56 - 34.760 WORD USE KNOCKING P SO I
01:56 - 36.880 THINK IT'S SIMPLY NOT CORRECT.
01:56 - 38.000 STAY
01:56 - 40.970 A COURT TO DECIDE THE ISSUE WAS
01:56 - 43.240 NOT JUST SO YOU DECIDED ON USE
01:56 - 44.290 IN FACT HE WASN'T
01:56 - 48.110 >>BUT IN OR HEAD WAS IN
01:56 - 49.560 A LIVE VIEW ORDINANCE THAT
01:56 - 51.400 BANNED CERTAIN TYPES OF ASSAULT
01:56 - 53.330 WEAPONS IN PHILADELPHIA COUNTY.
01:56 - 55.820 WELL AS IN FOR BILL.
01:56 - 58.790 NOW AND RE CODE PAIR FOR THE
01:56 - 00.030 THING THAT YOU ARE THAT IS
01:57 - 00.370 HERE.
01:57 - 02.870 AND THEN HOW YOU'RE TRYING
01:57 - 03.420 TRYING TO
01:57 - 05.190 SEPARATE THEM AND WHEN WE'RE
01:57 - 06.600 LOOKING AT THE ISSUE IS WHAT
01:57 - 08.540 WAS THE UNDERLYING ORDINANCE
01:57 - 09.510 THAT WOULD BEING ADDRESSED.
01:57 - 12.410 >>YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT THAT
01:57 - 13.250 WAS BANNED IN
01:57 - 15.370 THAT CASE AND THIS IS A BAND
01:57 - 16.890 THAT INCLUDED THE OWNERSHIP
01:57 - 17.460 POSSESSION
01:57 - 19.980 OR TRANSFER AS WELL AS USE THIS
01:57 - 22.030 CASE IS LIMIT IS NOT A FAN.
01:57 - 25.780 THE CONSTITUTIONAL ARE ON
01:57 - 27.690 SECTION 21. AND THE SECOND
01:57 - 29.410 AMENDMENT AND HELLER ON THE
01:57 - 30.790 K.
01:57 - 33.750 >>OR K K TALKED ABOUT THE U
01:57 - 36.200 WHICH IS RIGHT. THE ORDINANCE
01:57 - 37.210 TALKED ABOUT HERE.
01:57 - 39.990 >>I RESPECT YOUR HONOR YOUR T'S
01:57 - 42.500 CASE COLLEGE KIDS THEY USE.
01:57 - 44.360 ONE OF US AS
01:57 - 47.150 A WORD. AND YOU'RE DONE SINCE
01:57 - 49.360 WHEN IT GOES ON TO DISCUSS.
01:57 - 52.910 SHE ISSUES EVER HOLD. THAT WAS
01:57 - 54.630 SAYS REPORT NEVER SAYS
01:57 - 57.640 USE THEY PREEMPTED CATEGORY IT
01:57 - 59.050 SIMPLY ACKNOWLEDGES THAT IT WAS
01:57 - 01.170 UNDISPUTED AND THE ORDINANCE
01:58 - 02.570 THERE. A HARVARD
01:58 - 05.190 USE YOUR USE AS WELL AS
01:58 - 07.760 OWNERSHIP POSSESSION TRAPS
01:58 - 10.900 AND SO OUR MISSION AS WE READ
01:58 - 12.900 THE CASE THERE IS NO HOLDING
01:58 - 14.750 THERE'S NO SENTENCE, NO FLAWS
01:58 - 18.230 AND CIVICALLY HOLES AND USE IT
01:58 - 23.150 ON THE TOPIC OF CHARITABLE
01:58 - 24.540 REASONS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT
01:58 - 25.550 STURRIDGE HAS
01:58 - 28.120 ANOTHER COURT AND MY MY
01:58 - 29.350 COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE
01:58 - 30.850 SAID YES THAT'S AND THEN AS
01:58 - 32.140 WELL AND I THINK THAT REALLY
01:58 - 35.290 THOSE TRAITS THE PROBLEM.
01:58 - 38.500 I CAUSED THIS EITHER OR ASKING
01:58 - 39.680 PEOPLE LEAVE THIS COURT
01:58 - 42.350 TO AND WORDS INSTEAD OF ORTIZ.
01:58 - 44.140 YES AND STATUTES
01:58 - 46.870 GENERAL ASSEMBLY CITING NOT
01:58 - 48.190 THERE AND AGAIN IF YOU LOOK AT
01:58 - 49.070 OUR PRIEST LOOK
01:58 - 51.790 AT WHAT. STATE LEGISLATURES IN
01:58 - 53.260 OTHER STATES LIKE DOZENS OF
01:58 - 55.580 STATES HAVE FIRE. YES, THE BOSS
01:58 - 58.340 AND LOTS OF THEM DO YOU SLOW
01:58 - 59.800 THE CAT, DO YOU HAVE
01:58 - 02.180 OR STORAGE AND USE AND OTHER
01:59 - 06.050 STATE LEGISLATURES KNOW HAS SAY
01:59 - 06.350 WHAT
01:59 - 08.300 THEY NEED. THEY MEANT TO
01:59 - 10.390 PREEMPT YOU SEE A MATCH TO THE
01:59 - 13.120 APP QUESTION THAT.
01:59 - 14.420 >>I THINK IN THE BACK OF A
01:59 - 16.060 QUESTION THAT THE PRESIDENT
01:59 - 17.190 DOES GET THE BEGINNING OF
01:59 - 18.920 ARGUMENT AND BECAUSE I'VE BEEN
01:59 - 20.270 STRUGGLING WITH THIS AS WELL.
01:59 - 23.800 SO IF I PURCHASED IT. A GUN OR
01:59 - 25.580 USE A GUN A FIREARM.
01:59 - 28.310 BUT THEN SOMEBODY TELLING ME
01:59 - 29.770 AND I HAVE A RIGHT TO DO THAT
01:59 - 30.990 IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAS THE
01:59 - 32.840 RIGHT KID REGULATE THE
01:59 - 35.290 POSSESSION. AND THE TRANSFER
01:59 - 38.470 THE OWNERSHIP. BUT THEY CAN'T
01:59 - 40.350 TELL ME HOW TO USE IT. BUT THE
01:59 - 43.000 CITY A PITTSBURG KAN I MEAN IT
01:59 - 44.560 IS A REAL DISCONNECT HERE THAT
01:59 - 46.350 I HAVE A RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP.
01:59 - 48.350 BUT THEN SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING
01:59 - 49.590 TO TELL ME HOW I USE THAT
01:59 - 50.350 OWNERSHIP RATE.
01:59 - 53.790 >>I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION
01:59 - 55.000 HERE ARE AND I THINK THAT THE
01:59 - 56.450 KEY DISTINCTION HERE.
01:59 - 00.100 THAT THESE ORDINANCES. A
02:00 - 02.880 FOCUS ON A NARROW SET OF
02:00 - 05.220 THE INTERESTS USES IN
02:00 - 08.380 PUBLIC PLACES. LIMITED TONIGHT
02:00 - 10.040 TELLING ME I CAN ONLY BE
02:00 - 11.600 REGULATING ONLY CERTAIN POINT
02:00 - 13.180 THE GUN BUT THEN REALLY GOES
02:00 - 14.480 AGAINST THE CONSTITUTIONAL
02:00 - 14.710 RIGHT.
02:00 - 17.060 >>WELL,
02:00 - 19.290 I RESPECT, LEON IT'S IT'S
02:00 - 20.820 ACTUALLY QUITE THE OPPOSITE BY
02:00 - 21.550 LIMITING THESE
02:00 - 24.050 RESTRICTIONS TOO, SALT WEAPONS
02:00 - 26.040 AND LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINES.
02:00 - 27.010 THIS IS IN
02:00 - 29.320 ALMOST UNIFORMLY HELD
02:00 - 30.240 THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY BY
02:00 - 31.310 FEDERAL COURTS OF APPEALS IN
02:00 - 33.230 OTHER COURTS. THERE IS NO
02:00 - 34.590 SAINTS MAY NOT HAVE THE RIGHT.
02:00 - 38.280 THERE ARE LOTS OF LOTS OF ALL
02:00 - 40.170 THE FIRE. AND LOTS OF LOTS OF
02:00 - 42.280 MAGAZINES THAT HOLD AND ROUNDS
02:00 - 44.110 OR FEWER, BETTER STILL FULLY
02:00 - 45.500 OF L SO THERE
02:00 - 48.130 REALLY IS NO AND GET ALMOST
02:00 - 50.020 NOUNS CONSENSUS ACROSS THE
02:00 - 51.180 COUNTRY THERE IS NO
02:00 - 52.870 INFRINGEMENT ON A RESTRICTION
02:00 - 54.430 THAT THAT'S NARROW AND IS THAT
02:00 - 57.210 THERE ARE THAT WE'RE TALKING
02:00 - 58.280 ABOUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
02:00 - 59.600 WHETHER THE CITY OF PITTSBURGH
02:00 - 00.420 HAS THE RIGHT.
02:01 - 03.590 >>TO REGULATE THIS PARTICULAR
02:01 - 07.400 AREA. YES, AGAIN BACK
02:01 - 09.930 TO YOU. TEXT OF THE STATUTE OF
02:01 - 11.890 ALL IS THAT THE FACT THAT E.
02:01 - 14.520 >>GENERAL ASSEMBLY DID NOT SAY
02:01 - 16.480 THIS IS STARTING TO LOSE ITS
02:01 - 18.180 FIRST ACTION IT DID NOT SAY
02:01 - 20.270 YEAH THE ENTIRE FIELD TO THE
02:01 - 22.270 EXTENT THAT THE DECISIONS OF
02:01 - 24.840 THIS COURT. I HAVE GONE BEYOND
02:01 - 27.290 WORDS STATUE. WHAT GENERAL
02:01 - 28.410 ASSEMBLY ACTUALLY
02:01 - 30.130 ENACT IT. HE WOULD SUBMIT
02:01 - 31.810 RESPECT TO THAT SPORT SHOULD
02:01 - 34.090 TAKE A FRESH LOOK AND SOME OF
02:01 - 36.290 THEIR OWN LANGUAGE. SOME OF
02:01 - 37.500 THAT ON MY BACK
02:01 - 39.850 AND SHOULD HOLD OFF LINE AND
02:01 - 40.970 FORCED THE ACTION
02:01 - 43.210 ABSOLUTELY FULLY TO THE EXTENT
02:01 - 44.660 THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS
02:01 - 47.060 ENACTED. I'M NOT AS TIME THE
02:01 - 49.390 SMOKE HAD WORRIES A YEAR
02:01 - 52.980 AGREES. A COUNCIL I DID.
02:01 - 55.150 IF YOU COULD CLARIFY WHAT.
02:01 - 58.010 >>HOW YOU'RE ATTEMPTING TO USE
02:01 - 59.260 THE WORD. HE IS.
02:02 - 03.030 >>YES WE HAVE TO DO THAT YOU
02:02 - 04.370 ABOUT THE AMMUNITION.
02:02 - 06.980 IT SAYS IT DOESN'T MEAN
02:02 - 08.020 POSSESSION OWNERSHIP
02:02 - 10.630 TRANSPORTATION OR A TRANSFER.
02:02 - 11.160 BUT
02:02 - 13.300 IT MEAN OKAY DID START
02:02 - 14.930 CHARGING, BUT THEN IT GOES ON
02:02 - 17.610 THEY LOADING IT INTO A FIREARM
02:02 - 20.790 OR MAGAZINE. AND THE LOADING IT
02:02 - 22.410 WITH AMMUNITION. A
02:02 - 24.230 FITTING IN OR INSTALLING IT
02:02 - 25.600 INTO A FIREARM.
02:02 - 32.430 CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT HERE
02:02 - 33.150 INTENT
02:02 - 33.720 IS THERE.
02:02 - 36.150 >>YES, ABSOLUTELY AND WHAT THE
02:02 - 37.570 CITY OF PITTSBURGH HAS SAID
02:02 - 39.170 THROUGHOUT THIS LITIGATION ALL
02:02 - 40.200 GOES BACK TO.
02:02 - 44.550 >>SO UNITED STATES
02:02 - 46.980 IMPORTANT VALLEY ABOUT THE
02:02 - 49.190 COMMON SENSE WHICH VARY A
02:02 - 50.850 COMMISSION MEETING OR USE
02:02 - 53.560 THAT USING A FIREARM HERE ARE
02:02 - 55.250 ASKING RESIDENTS IN CONCEPT,
02:02 - 58.120 AYERS ACTIVELY PLAYING IT
02:02 - 59.910 SOMEWHAT. SO EACH OF THE
02:02 - 01.480 EXAMPLES HERE I JUST CLARIFY
02:03 - 03.840 ONE THING ALL THE COVID IN THE
02:03 - 04.370 TEMPLES
02:03 - 06.130 OF USE A LARGE CAPACITY
02:03 - 07.540 MAGAZINES THAT YOU ARE JUST WAS
02:03 - 09.330 ACTIVELY EMPLOYING IT IN
02:03 - 11.650 SOME WAY. YES, AT ONE POINT.
02:03 - 13.110 SO THEY'VE COME UP WITH A
02:03 - 14.650 DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT MEANS
02:03 - 16.400 IN THAT YOU AND YOUR GUN.
02:03 - 17.010 >>RIGHT.
02:03 - 21.830 AND YOU'RE ACTIVELY EMPLOYING
02:03 - 24.580 IF YOU LOVE IT. YOU LOAD IT IN
02:03 - 25.050 PUBLIC.
02:03 - 27.480 >>YES, THIS IS ALL IN THE 2 IN
02:03 - 27.900 PUBLIC.
02:03 - 32.990 SO IF YOU ARE
02:03 - 35.000 IN PUBLIC. A FIREARM.
02:03 - 38.110 >>YOUR MAGAZINE
02:03 - 41.000 IN PUBLIC. AMMUNITION OR WITH A
02:03 - 43.110 LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINE THAT
02:03 - 45.420 GOES TO ALL OF US STARING AT.
02:03 - 49.500 CECI IT DOING SOMETHING
02:03 - 50.940 THAT SUGGESTS.
02:03 - 54.390 >>BUT EVEN IN EVEN IN ABOUT 2
02:03 - 55.610 SOMETHING THAT STATUTE.
02:03 - 58.330 >>EVEN IN 5337 '03.
02:03 - 01.470 THEY QUALIFIED UNNECESSARY
02:04 - 03.860 FIRING IN CHARGE YOU'VE GONE
02:04 - 04.890 WELL BEYOND THAT
02:04 - 07.080 THIS IS AN UNNECESSARY FIRING
02:04 - 09.050 AND DISCHARGES BUT YOU CAN EVEN
02:04 - 11.220 LOADED YOU CAN KERRY CAN
02:04 - 12.320 PEOPLE TOGETHER.
02:04 - 16.600 >>TO BE CLEAR YOU'RE GOING INTO
02:04 - 19.860 A FIREARM AND I'M NOT VERY
02:04 - 21.920 GOOD CHARGE. OR YOU TAKE THE
02:04 - 24.510 LEAD ON THAT DEFINITION AND HE
02:04 - 26.280 YOU CAN.
02:04 - 27.870 >>YOU KNOW YOU CAN DO ALL OF
02:04 - 29.800 THOSE THINGS WHEN YOU LEAVE
02:04 - 32.310 YOUR HOUSE. DO ALL
02:04 - 33.410 THOSE THINGS. WELL YOUR
02:04 - 34.960 ADMISSIONS YOUR MAGAZINE YOU'RE
02:04 - 36.010 HOLDING BACK TO AN INCH.
02:04 - 38.740 >>THE SAME WOULD ANYBODY KNOW
02:04 - 40.250 WHETHER IT HAPPENED IN PUBLIC
02:04 - 42.310 OR AT THEIR HOUSE. AND
02:04 - 44.390 THAT'S IT. AND CAN BE ARRESTED
02:04 - 46.090 BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T VOTED IN
02:04 - 47.620 THE PRESUMPTION THEY DID IN
02:04 - 48.880 PUBLIC WHO WOULD KNOW.
02:04 - 50.330 >>THEN YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT
02:04 - 52.850 NO YOU DID AT HOME AND YOU CAN
02:04 - 55.520 READ IT REALLY OK. YEAH POINT
02:04 - 57.070 HERE YOUR HONOR IS THAT IT'S.
02:04 - 58.710 >>AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER
02:04 - 00.290 SAW SOMEBODY.
02:05 - 03.200 BEING THERE ARE ASKING THAT
02:05 - 05.310 EASY. A PUBLIC PLACE.
02:05 - 08.530 >>NOW WOULD AND IT
02:05 - 10.310 WOULD SUGGEST, AND THERE MAY BE
02:05 - 11.800 REASON TO INVESTIGATE WHAT'S
02:05 - 13.250 GOING ON HERE AND ALSO JUST
02:05 - 14.650 TO CLARIFY. THESE ARE NOT
02:05 - 16.650 CRIMINAL OFFENSE IS STILL ABOUT
02:05 - 18.000 SO NOBODY GETS A LOOK AT THE
02:05 - 19.530 CRIME CODE ALREADY ADDRESSED
02:05 - 21.530 THE 5TH CHARGING YOU AND THAT
02:05 - 23.510 WOULD BE ON THE COUNCIL ABLE TO
02:05 - 25.700 PREEMPT IT. SO OK THANK YOU.
02:05 - 31.930 >>OUR NUMBER
02:05 - 34.060 2021. THANK YOU.
02:05 - 38.920 >>TAKE A SEAT IN
02:05 - 40.470 THE COURTROOM AND SEE THE
02:05 - 41.810 REAL LIFE CASES AFFECTING
02:05 - 43.610 PENNSYLVANIANS TODAY. HEAR THE
02:05 - 45.220 ARGUMENTS FROM BOTH SIDES WITH
02:05 - 47.620 FULL TRANSPARENCY EXCLUSIVELY
02:05 - 49.640 ON PCN I WATCHED THE
02:05 - 51.240 COMMONWEALTH SUPERIOR AND
02:05 - 53.270 SUPREME COURT ON CABLE AND THE
02:05 - 54.360 PCN SELECT
02:05 - 57.080 STREAMING SERVICE. VISIT PCN TV
02:05 - 58.360 DOT COM FOR THE COMPLETE
02:05 - 01.450 SCHEDULE. PCN PENNSYLVANIA
02:06 - 03.110 POLITICS AND POLICY.
02:06 - 09.120 >>WE WILL
02:06 - 11.710 CONSIDER NUMBER 22 PITTSBURGH
02:06 - 13.720 WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY.
02:06 - 16.000 THE UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION.
02:06 - 17.520 A REVIEW.
02:06 - 20.680 FOR WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY
02:06 - 21.990 APPEAL THE UNEMPLOYMENT
02:06 - 23.990 COMPENSATION BOARD OF REVIEW.
02:06 - 26.030 GRAHAM A BENEFIT TO AN
02:06 - 29.060 EMPLOYEE. PARA UBER AFTER
02:06 - 30.760 STARTING EMPLOYMENT WITH THE
02:06 - 32.260 FOR FOOD OR
02:06 - 34.780 A CLAIM WHEN PRIME MEDICAL
02:06 - 38.730 MARIJUANA, A TREE. CORRECT
02:06 - 39.800 THE BORDER WHEN
02:06 - 42.090 THEY AUTHORITY SELECTED HIM FOR
02:06 - 43.610 RANDOM DRUG TESTS. HE
02:06 - 45.880 FAILED IT. THE AUTHORITY DRUG
02:06 - 47.680 AND ALCOHOL FREE WORK LIFE
02:06 - 49.660 POLICY PROVIDES THAT IF AN
02:06 - 51.210 EMPLOYEE TESTED POSITIVE.
02:06 - 54.170 HE HAS 3 DAYS FOR A VALID
02:06 - 55.770 PRESCRIPTION FOR THE DRUG.
02:06 - 57.330 THE CAPPING A TIME.
02:06 - 00.930 FOR HIS MEDICAL MARIJUANA
02:07 - 02.550 PATIENT INFORMATION CARD.
02:07 - 03.130 I
02:07 - 05.220 NEVER LAUGHED AUTHORITY
02:07 - 06.730 DISCHARGE CLAIMANT FOR THE
02:07 - 08.840 STATE AGREES HIM THAT MARIJUANA
02:07 - 11.220 YEAR THE ILLEGAL. UNDER FEDERAL
02:07 - 11.590 LAW.
02:07 - 14.030 THE BOARD RAMPANT CRIME AND
02:07 - 15.990 UNEMPLOYMENT. COMPENSATION
02:07 - 17.840 BENEFITS HOLDING THAT THE
02:07 - 19.130 AUTHORITY DID NOT
02:07 - 21.310 THE CLAIMANT INTENTIONALLY
02:07 - 23.800 VIOLATED A COURT FIGHT POLICY
02:07 - 24.890 ON CRIME.
02:07 - 27.090 THE AUTHORITY ARGUE THAT THE
02:07 - 29.810 BOARD ERRED FROM SOME OF THE
02:07 - 31.270 UNEMPLOYMENT. LA
02:07 - 33.780 WHICH AUTHORIZES THE DENIAL OF
02:07 - 36.870 BENEFITS. WHEN A
02:07 - 37.990 DRUG TEST. IT
02:07 - 40.790 WILL FAIL. A LOT OF NOT BURDEN
02:07 - 42.370 THE EMPLOYER WITH HAVING TO
02:07 - 44.200 PROVE THAT THE EMPLOYEE DRUG
02:07 - 46.400 TEST FAILURE WITH NOT KNOWING
02:07 - 49.770 OR AND HOW IT. A GOOD MAN AND
02:07 - 51.030 INTENTIONAL.
02:07 - 58.970 BOTH SIDES BY THE WAY.
02:08 - 01.430 I MEAN
02:08 - 04.510 GRAHAM AND MISTER DION ARE
02:08 - 05.810 GOING TO DIVIDE THEIR 15
02:08 - 06.090 MINUTE.
02:08 - 09.310 YOU'RE GOING TO DIVIDE EVENLY.
02:08 - 12.740 >>YES, YOUR IF IF IF TIME IF I
02:08 - 13.890 MAY I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED
02:08 - 15.810 BEFORE MISTER DION. RESERVE THE
02:08 - 17.740 REST THE TIME FOR. I MISSED A
02:08 - 18.230 GAME.
02:08 - 22.500 >>THAT CRIME YOU LEAVING I HAVE
02:08 - 22.940 7 AND A
02:08 - 25.520 HALF MINUTE. MISTER THOMAS YOUR
02:08 - 27.290 15 MINUTES IN A RIVER FROM
02:08 - 29.170 ABOUT 15 MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
02:08 - 32.550 >>AN EARLY TO RESERVE 2 MINUTES
02:08 - 32.990 REBUTTAL.
02:08 - 40.430 AND MAYBE WE SUPPORT MY NAME IS
02:08 - 41.390 JIM THOMAS, I
02:08 - 43.570 REPRESENT PETITIONER PITTSBURGH
02:08 - 45.640 WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY AND
02:08 - 46.700 YOU MAY HEAR ME REFER
02:08 - 48.410 THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION AS
02:08 - 48.500 THE
02:08 - 51.150 BECAUSE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR
02:08 - 52.670 SOME TIME AND THAT'S HOW WE
02:08 - 53.190 REFER TO.
02:08 - 56.600 I APPRECIATE YOUR RECITATION OF
02:08 - 58.530 THE FACTS. THERE IS A COUPLE
02:08 - 00.020 POINTS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADD
02:09 - 02.710 TO THE RECITATION OF THE MOST
02:09 - 04.520 SIGNIFICANTLY WITH REGARD TO BE
02:09 - 07.250 PW ESSAYS DRUG AND ALCOHOL
02:09 - 07.830 POLICY.
02:09 - 11.420 A NEW LEGAL DRUG AS A
02:09 - 13.440 CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE PROHIBITED
02:09 - 14.100 UNDER
02:09 - 16.350 FEDERAL RULES OR STATE LAW THAT
02:09 - 18.060 SPECIFICALLY SET FORTH IN
02:09 - 18.590 POLICY.
02:09 - 21.580 AND IT'S
02:09 - 22.970 UNDISPUTED IN THE COURT CAN
02:09 - 24.270 TAKE JUDICIAL NOTICE OF THE
02:09 - 25.550 FACT THAT ALL MARIJUANA,
02:09 - 26.250 INCLUDING
02:09 - 28.450 MEDICAL MARIJUANA. A STORE
02:09 - 30.000 SCHEDULE ONE CONTROLLED STOPS
02:09 - 30.810 IN SOME OF THE FEDERAL
02:09 - 31.870 CONTROLLED STOP THIS.
02:09 - 34.560 THEREFORE IT'S STILL ILLEGAL
02:09 - 36.210 UNDER FEDERAL LAW AND THERE CAN
02:09 - 38.490 BE NO VALID A PRESCRIPTION FOR
02:09 - 39.570 UNDER FEDERAL LAW.
02:09 - 42.090 THE POLICY
02:09 - 43.770 SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIES
02:09 - 46.310 MARIJUANA AS ONE OF THE DRUGS
02:09 - 48.550 FOR WEEKS EMPLOYEES MAY BE
02:09 - 50.140 TESTED PURSUANT TO IT.
02:09 - 53.220 >>I'M TALKING ABOUT THE POLICY
02:09 - 54.620 DOES THE WRITTEN POLICY
02:09 - 57.360 CONTAIN ANY EXCEPTION FOR
02:09 - 59.100 SOMEONE WHO HAS A PRESCRIPTION.
02:10 - 00.920 >>IT DOES IT
02:10 - 03.560 IT STATES THAT
02:10 - 06.160 IN THE CLINTON TESTIFIED IN
02:10 - 08.620 THE BOARD FOUND THAT
02:10 - 10.980 THE CLAY MOORE WHEN HE WAS
02:10 - 12.050 BEING ARMED BORDER, THIS
02:10 - 13.610 PARTNERS ORIENTATION WAS IN
02:10 - 16.210 FACT. BRIEF ON THAT PARTICULAR
02:10 - 18.360 PROTOCOL AND THAT IS IF THERE
02:10 - 21.050 IS A VALID PRESCRIPTION FOR
02:10 - 23.480 A DRUG. THAT CAME BACK AS
02:10 - 25.440 POSITIVE AND TO THE TESTS AN
02:10 - 27.150 EMPLOYEE HAS THE ABILITY.
02:10 - 29.530 PERCENT AND OUR PRESCRIPTION
02:10 - 31.430 WITHIN 3 DAYS. IF IT'S
02:10 - 32.430 DETERMINED THAT ABOUT
02:10 - 34.420 PRESCRIPTION AND THAT WAS BEING
02:10 - 35.750 USED WITHIN THE CONFINES OF
02:10 - 37.520 THAT PRESCRIPTION AND THE
02:10 - 39.500 RESULT WOULD NOT GET REPORTED
02:10 - 41.810 TO WEAR SO ESSENTIALLY THE
02:10 - 43.480 SENATE IF THERE'S ANY CONFUSION
02:10 - 43.920 BY.
02:10 - 45.010 >>NI HIM.
02:10 - 46.650 >>FOR YOU IT WOULD SEEM TO BE
02:10 - 47.930 UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THEY WOULD
02:10 - 48.130 BE
02:10 - 50.830 CONFUSION THAT HEARING THIS THE
02:10 - 52.410 IMPORT OF THE THINGS JUST GET
02:10 - 54.150 AN APOLOGY CONTAIN THE LANGUAGE
02:10 - 55.030 THE SAME
02:10 - 57.290 AND ANY EVERY HEWITT YOUR
02:10 - 59.110 COMPUTER BE SURE TO GET THE
02:10 - 59.760 EMPLOYER.
02:11 - 02.320 >>YOU KNOW I WILL HOW WOULD HOW
02:11 - 04.640 HOW WOULD BE EMPLOYEE KNOW
02:11 - 06.450 AND AFTER READING OF ALL IF
02:11 - 07.250 YOU'RE HEARING WHAT WAS
02:11 - 09.500 EXPLAINED THAT IF THERE HAD A
02:11 - 11.230 PRESCRIPTION CARD FROM A
02:11 - 13.810 MEDICAL PHYSICIAN AND THAT IS
02:11 - 16.270 THEY WERE TESTED. THEN HE AS HE
02:11 - 18.000 DID YOU JUST SHOWED HIM A
02:11 - 18.360 MEDICAL
02:11 - 19.160 MARIJUANA CARD.
02:11 - 20.830 >>AND THAT THAT'S A VERY GOOD
02:11 - 22.560 QUESTION AND I WAS JUST GETTING
02:11 - 24.190 INTO THE HEART OF THE DRUG AND
02:11 - 26.630 ALCOHOL, A POLICY THAT SPEAKS
02:11 - 26.790 TO
02:11 - 29.630 WEIGH IN. SOMEBODY IS TAKING A
02:11 - 32.120 PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION THAT
02:11 - 33.070 THEY ARE TOO
02:11 - 36.200 ESSENTIALLY NUMBER ONE GOAL IN
02:11 - 38.220 IN CONSULT WITH THE PRESCRIBING
02:11 - 39.920 DOCTOR TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY
02:11 - 41.510 RESTRICTIONS ON THE ABILITY TO
02:11 - 43.620 USE THAT ON TOP OF THAT RIGHT,
02:11 - 44.190 WE'LL CHECK.
02:11 - 45.980 >>SO LET'S JUST GO THROUGH THIS
02:11 - 47.990 THOUGH HE DOES THAT DOCTORS
02:11 - 49.430 PRESCRIBE MEDICAL MARIJUANA
02:11 - 52.000 CARD. EXPLAIN TO THEIR PATIENTS
02:11 - 54.250 AND THE IMPACT FROM THE TAKING
02:11 - 56.060 A MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND THEN
02:11 - 57.130 MET THAT CRITERIA.
02:11 - 00.390 >>OKAY I WAS GOING TO GET INTO
02:12 - 02.050 THE NEXT PART OF THE OF THE
02:12 - 05.880 POLICY WHICH IS TO THE PWS
02:12 - 07.000 SAVE THEM.
02:12 - 09.670 IT STATES THAT EMPLOYEE MAY
02:12 - 11.500 CONTINUE TO WORK WHILE TAKING A
02:12 - 13.480 LEGAL DRUG WHICH A MAN WHO ONCE
02:12 - 14.690 IN THE CONFINES OF A
02:12 - 16.820 VALID PRESCRIPTION AND WHY DID
02:12 - 18.640 THE PWS A DETERMINED
02:12 - 21.280 THAT EMPLOYEES BUT YOU CAN USE
02:12 - 22.790 OF THE DRUG DOESN'T POSE A
02:12 - 24.890 SAFETY THREAT. OR JOB
02:12 - 26.820 PERFORMANCE DOESN'T BACK DOWN
02:12 - 28.610 TO ITS JOB PERFORM STORM
02:12 - 29.920 PARAPHRASING RIGHT THERE, BUT
02:12 - 31.800 YOU CAN FIND THAT PARTICULAR
02:12 - 37.250 THE APPENDIX AT ONE 74 1.75.
02:12 - 38.160 AND THAT'S
02:12 - 41.070 SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE HAD THE
02:12 - 42.200 IMPORTANT TO CLEAN IN
02:12 - 44.520 THIS CASE ACTUALLY DONE WITH
02:12 - 46.250 THE POLICY PROVIDES AT THAT
02:12 - 47.570 POINT IN TIME
02:12 - 49.690 ACQUIRED ACTUALLY USING THE
02:12 - 52.160 WORKING WALK TAKING MEDICAL
02:12 - 54.350 MARIJUANA. THE AUTHORITY COULD
02:12 - 56.140 HAVE CLARIFIED WITH HIM
02:12 - 57.720 THAT YOU CANNOT USE MEDICAL
02:12 - 59.890 MARIJUANA BECAUSE OUR POLICY
02:12 - 01.820 FOLLOWS BOTH FEDERAL AND
02:13 - 04.280 STATE LAW AND MEDICAL MARIJUANA
02:13 - 05.650 IS STILL ILLEGAL UNDER
02:13 - 08.090 FEDERAL LAW. ON TOP OF THAT THE
02:13 - 09.620 EMPLOYEE HE AT ALL.
02:13 - 11.720 SHE SPECIFICALLY WHY DOES THIS
02:13 - 13.260 DOES DOES THE EMPLOYER THAN
02:13 - 14.470 ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE
02:13 - 15.600 IS CONFUSION.
02:13 - 17.860 >>AND THAT THE EMPLOYEE SHOULD
02:13 - 19.970 COME FORWARD AND ASK FOR AN
02:13 - 21.030 EXPLANATION FROM
02:13 - 21.740 THE EMPLOYER.
02:13 - 23.790 >>WELL HE REPEATEDLY SAY
02:13 - 24.640 DOESN'T ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
02:13 - 26.200 THERE'S A CONFUSION BECAUSE
02:13 - 28.740 IT IS IT IS CLEARLY ILLEGAL
02:13 - 29.860 UNDER FEDERAL LAW.
02:13 - 33.010 >>THOMAS MANNER.
02:13 - 35.860 IN LIGHT OF THAT.
02:13 - 39.570 THE EMPLOYEE HERE AND THE
02:13 - 41.320 MEDICAL MARIJUANA PRESCRIPTION
02:13 - 41.800 CARD.
02:13 - 45.210 WAS IN THE POLLS AND SAID HEY
02:13 - 47.780 YOU MAY HAVE THIS DESCRIPTION
02:13 - 48.910 OF PENNSYLVANIA LAW.
02:13 - 50.580 WE STILL CONSIDER HIM. THE
02:13 - 53.200 MEDICAL MARIJUANA BE LEGAL IS
02:13 - 54.290 THIS SIMPLY I LIKE
02:13 - 57.060 MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS AN
02:13 - 58.590 EXCEPTION TO THE PRESCRIPTION
02:13 - 59.590 POLICY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT
02:13 - 00.330 SOUNDS LIKE YOU
02:14 - 00.790 ARE GO.
02:14 - 03.460 >>I'M NOT ARGUING THAT IN THERE
02:14 - 05.260 IS NO SPECIFIC VISION IN THE
02:14 - 06.880 POLICY. THEY WERE FIRST
02:14 - 08.990 MARIJUANA AND THE FACT THAT IT
02:14 - 10.800 WAS ILLEGAL UNDER FEDERAL LAW.
02:14 - 14.530 >>IT DOES CONFUSION HERE.
02:14 - 18.750 YOU CAN'T REALLY
02:14 - 20.250 GO DRUGS BUT YOU CAN ADD A
02:14 - 21.380 PRESCRIPTION SO.
02:14 - 24.610 I THINK JUST CALL THESE ON TO
02:14 - 26.090 SOMETHING HERE THAT THERE'S A
02:14 - 26.920 YEARLY.
02:14 - 29.950 YOUR POLICY EASILY COULD HAVE
02:14 - 31.470 RECTIFIED BY JUST SAYING
02:14 - 33.560 YOU KNOW MEDICAL MARIJUANA
02:14 - 35.190 GROWS PRESCRIPTION IS ILLEGAL
02:14 - 36.690 UNDER OF ALL THIS AND YOU
02:14 - 38.980 >>LOOKING IN THE REARVIEW
02:14 - 40.990 RECKON CLEARLY KNOWS THAT YOU
02:14 - 41.250 KNOW.
02:14 - 43.150 >>IF THE POLICY SAID
02:14 - 45.330 MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS STILL
02:14 - 46.010 PROHIBITED UNDER
02:14 - 48.190 FEDERAL LAW AND THEREFORE IS
02:14 - 49.800 ALSO PROHIBITED UNDER OUR POLLS
02:14 - 51.150 BECAUSE OF FOLLOWS FEDERAL LAW.
02:14 - 52.950 WE WOULD BE SITTING HERE TODAY.
02:14 - 53.870 I KNOW JET WITH
02:14 - 54.690 THE COURTS.
02:14 - 55.990 >>HOWEVER, EVEN KNOW THAT YOU
02:14 - 57.050 AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT YOU
02:14 - 58.150 WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
02:14 - 59.970 DO THAT BECAUSE AREN'T YOU A
02:14 - 02.220 PUBLIC BODY NOT YOUR REQUIRED
02:15 - 03.820 YOU'RE HERE TO PENNSYLVANIA
02:15 - 05.930 LAW. NOW WE ARE WHY WHY ARE YOU
02:15 - 07.470 WHY ARE YOU OBLIGATED TO FOLLOW
02:15 - 08.960 FEDERAL LAW NOT PENNSYLVANIA
02:15 - 09.280 LAW.
02:15 - 11.100 >>WE ARE UNMISSABLE
02:15 - 13.640 FOR YOU AND AGAIN THIS WILL
02:15 - 16.500 40'S ACT. WE ARE NOT A BRANCH
02:15 - 18.150 OF THE STATE GOVERNMENT LIKE
02:15 - 19.940 THIS FOR A DRESS IN THE GAS
02:15 - 21.940 FIRST THE 57 HERE IN.
02:15 - 23.440 >>AND PALATE E.
02:15 - 29.240 AUTHORITIES
02:15 - 31.740 ARE IN KALIHI UP RIGHT HERE AND
02:15 - 32.910 PURSUE A FEW MINUTES BOTH
02:15 - 34.270 ALREADY THAT THAT IS CORRECT
02:15 - 36.500 HOWEVER, WE STILL WARM.
02:15 - 38.260 >>AND IF WE COULD JUST GO BACK
02:15 - 39.680 TO THE POLICY FROM IT.
02:15 - 46.430 AN EMPLOYEE WAS PERMITTED TO
02:15 - 48.110 BOARD THEM A PRESCRIPTION.
02:15 - 50.770 IF YOU NEVER INTENDED TO ALLOW
02:15 - 53.740 ANY EMPLOYEE. A PRESCRIBE
02:15 - 56.720 MEDICAL MARIJUANA REMAIN A JOB.
02:16 - 03.370 >>I'M OLD I'M NOT QUITE
02:16 - 05.930 SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR IT WAS
02:16 - 08.640 ALWAYS OUR INTENT. IF ALL OVER
02:16 - 09.730 TO PROHIBIT ANY
02:16 - 11.720 A DRUG THAT IS ILLEGAL UNDER
02:16 - 13.980 FEDERAL OR STATE LAW SO WAS
02:16 - 15.320 ALWAYS OR 10.
02:16 - 17.990 NOT TO PERMIT THE USE OF
02:16 - 19.370 MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND I WOULD
02:16 - 20.920 LIKE TO TAKE THIS OFF YOU KNOW
02:16 - 23.010 SO SO THE EMPLOYEE HAD TO
02:16 - 23.570 GUESS.
02:16 - 25.660 >>AND THE EMPLOYERS IN HAND,
02:16 - 27.560 ALTHOUGH IT WAS THE EMPLOYER
02:16 - 28.830 WHO HAD THE ABILITY
02:16 - 30.750 TO WRITE THE POLICY AND THE
02:16 - 32.710 EMPLOYEE HAD NO ABILITY TO
02:16 - 32.960 WRITE
02:16 - 33.660 THE POLICY.
02:16 - 36.170 >>I DISAGREE THAT THE EMPLOYEE
02:16 - 37.750 WAS REQUIRED TO GUESS
02:16 - 39.740 THE EMPLOYEE ALWAYS HAD YOUR
02:16 - 41.150 OWN GOOD. BUT HOW DOES THE
02:16 - 42.480 POLICY DAY.
02:16 - 45.260 >>THAT WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANY
02:16 - 46.860 KIND OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA
02:16 - 48.590 BECAUSE WE CONSIDER IT TO BE
02:16 - 50.200 ILLEGAL UNDER FEDERAL LAW.
02:16 - 52.110 YOU THAT TOO AND
02:16 - 52.860 THE POLITICS.
02:16 - 55.040 >>NOW AS I STATED POLICY DOES
02:16 - 57.200 NOT MENTION A MEDICAL MARIJUANA
02:16 - 59.650 ITALY WAS DRAFTED BEFORE THE
02:16 - 00.990 MEDICAL MARIJUANA ACT.
02:17 - 02.810 BUT.
02:17 - 04.600 >>BUT THE IMPLICATION THERE
02:17 - 06.610 THAT THERE ARE NUMBER. OPIOID.
02:17 - 07.990 THAT.
02:17 - 13.510 WE'LL BE SEEING TO IT THAT
02:17 - 15.730 IT DOES SAY IF YOU PREVENT A
02:17 - 17.480 PRESCRIPTION WITHIN 3 DAYS.
02:17 - 19.960 THEN THE CASTING AGENT WILL NOT
02:17 - 20.990 REPORT FEE.
02:17 - 32.760 IT'S THE
02:17 - 34.710 SAFE HARBOR FOR THAT EMPLOYEE
02:17 - 35.790 AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S NOT
02:17 - 36.540 WHAT THE POLICY
02:17 - 37.090 AND HANDED.
02:17 - 39.910 >>NOT NECESSARILY IN ANY CLEAR
02:17 - 41.570 FOR I AGREE THAT THERE ARE MANY
02:17 - 43.740 CREATES THERE ARE IN FACT THIS
02:17 - 45.950 CRIME, HOWEVER YOU CAN
02:17 - 47.510 HAVE A VALID PRESCRIPTION FOR
02:17 - 48.830 THOSE UNDER
02:17 - 51.420 FEDERAL LAW. MAYOR WARREN IS
02:17 - 52.800 STILL A SCHEDULE ONE CONTROLLED
02:17 - 54.760 SUBSTANCE UNDER FEDERAL LAW YOU
02:17 - 56.270 CAN NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE SCRIPT
02:17 - 56.690 FOR IT.
02:18 - 01.780 >>AND THE CAPE
02:18 - 04.140 WHERE IT. IT UNDER FEDERAL LAW
02:18 - 05.670 I GOT THERE AND THAT'S WHERE A
02:18 - 07.510 LOT OF ALL OUT CORRUPTION FOR
02:18 - 09.660 MARIJUANA AND YOU KNOW IT'S
02:18 - 10.710 KIND OF LIKE AN OLD
02:18 - 13.210 GOT YOU, I MEAN HOW IS AN
02:18 - 14.710 EMPLOYEE BUT THEY FORCED TO
02:18 - 15.230 HAVE A LAW
02:18 - 16.800 DEGREE NOW IN ORDER TO
02:18 - 18.710 INTERPRET THE EMPLOYER'S POLICY
02:18 - 20.400 BECAUSE THE YOU HAVE TO
02:18 - 22.840 ADMIT THE APOLOGY IS NOT
02:18 - 24.860 PARTICULARLY CLEAR THERE IS A
02:18 - 26.780 HEAD-ON CONFLICT AND AN
02:18 - 28.180 EMPLOYEE THINKING I HAVE A
02:18 - 30.060 PRESCRIPTION CARD. MY DOCTOR
02:18 - 31.550 TOLD ME I MEDICALLY NEEDED.
02:18 - 33.680 I QUALIFIED COURT IT'S
02:18 - 36.490 REGULATED BY THE STATE. AND HOW
02:18 - 37.650 DID THE EMPLOYEE KNOW THAT
02:18 - 39.010 THAT'S GOING HE
02:18 - 40.830 MET HEAD ON AND GET THE FEDERAL
02:18 - 42.560 LAW THAT BE AND COY ARE
02:18 - 44.040 GETTING COMMUTE. CLEARLY
02:18 - 45.000 COMMUNICATE WITHIN THE
02:18 - 45.820 POLITICS.
02:18 - 47.820 >>YOUR HONOR THAT'S WHERE THE
02:18 - 49.350 EMPLOYEE DOES WE HAVE AN
02:18 - 51.970 OBLIGATION UNDER THE POLICY IF
02:18 - 52.130 THEY
02:18 - 54.480 ARE TAKING A PRESCRIPTION DRUG
02:18 - 55.620 AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE I NEVER
02:18 - 59.740 WON 74 ONE THE APPENDIX THEY DO
02:18 - 01.740 HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO BRING
02:19 - 03.590 THAT TO THE ATTENTION I'M THE
02:19 - 04.710 SO
02:19 - 06.520 THEY CAN UNDERTAKE THE RIGHT
02:19 - 08.290 THING I THINK I THINK THAT I I
02:19 - 09.380 DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU
02:19 - 11.230 BELIEVE IN THE EMPLOY A
02:19 - 12.360 RESPONSIBILITY.
02:19 - 15.010 >>ONE OF THE EMPLOYER. THAT HAS
02:19 - 17.190 THE OBLIGATION CLEARLY
02:19 - 19.560 COMMUNICATE ITS POLICY IN ANY
02:19 - 21.460 AMBIGUITY WILL BE RESOLVED
02:19 - 23.110 AGAIN THE PERSON DRAFT IN THE
02:19 - 23.680 WHOLE THING.
02:19 - 25.990 >>WELL THE POLICY DOES CLEARLY
02:19 - 27.580 STATE THAT MARIJUANA IS
02:19 - 28.820 PROHIBITED. THAT'S
02:19 - 31.200 CLEARLY STATE. MY POINT IS IN
02:19 - 33.840 TERMS I HEARD EXCUSE ME
02:19 - 36.210 COUNCIL, BUT THERE ARE 2
02:19 - 37.510 DEFINITIONS THERE'S A
02:19 - 40.090 DEFINITION FOR AN ILLEGAL DRUG
02:19 - 41.550 WHICH YOU MENTION. BUT
02:19 - 42.960 THEN THERE'S A DEFINITION OF
02:19 - 45.830 ILLEGAL DRUGS. A DRUG MEANS
02:19 - 47.080 PRESCRIPTION MED OF
02:19 - 49.030 MEDICATIONS. THEY HAVE BEEN
02:19 - 49.530 LEGALLY
02:19 - 52.320 A HOME AND WHAT I'M LOOKING AT
02:19 - 55.620 PAGES ONE 74 1.75 IT TALKS
02:19 - 56.150 ABOUT.
02:19 - 59.700 THE SESSION OR USE OF
02:19 - 02.650 ILLEGAL DRUGS DURING WORK HOURS
02:20 - 04.840 OR EVEN PERFORMING BUSINESSES
02:20 - 07.260 IS PERMITTED. PROVIDED THAT IT
02:20 - 08.080 DOESN'T AFFECT THEIR
02:20 - 10.170 PERFORMANCE IS LEGAL DRUG IS
02:20 - 12.240 PRESCRIBED DRUG. THIS WAS A
02:20 - 13.240 PRESCRIBED DRUG.
02:20 - 18.080 WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF
02:20 - 20.560 ILLEGAL DRUGS. YOUR HONOR THAT
02:20 - 21.320 WAS MY POINT.
02:20 - 23.320 >>HAD THE CLAIMANT BELIEVED
02:20 - 25.370 THAT HE WAS USING A LEGAL DRUG
02:20 - 27.790 UNDER THE POLICY. YEAH OWNER HE
02:20 - 27.960 HAD
02:20 - 30.590 AN OBLIGATION BRING THAT TO THE
02:20 - 32.760 ATTENTION OF THE SO THEY CAN
02:20 - 34.230 UNDERTAKE ITS OWN ASSESSMENT.
02:20 - 36.560 >>AND SAY THAT WHERE DOES IT
02:20 - 37.750 SAY THAT IS LOCATED
02:20 - 41.100 ONE 75. I'M SORRY, YEAH, OR THE
02:20 - 42.740 OF THE APPENDIX ONE 75.
02:20 - 45.880 AND IT SAYS THE EMPLOYEE MAY
02:20 - 47.570 CONTINUE TO WORK WHILE USING
02:20 - 49.220 ILLEGAL DRUGS PROVIDED THAT THE
02:20 - 50.140 PWS A
02:20 - 52.120 5TH TERM MEANS THAT EMPLOYEE
02:20 - 53.810 DOES NOT POSE A THREAT TO HIS
02:20 - 54.770 HER OWN SAFETY
02:20 - 56.720 FOR THE SAFETY OF CO-WORKERS
02:20 - 57.580 CUSTOMERS OF
02:20 - 59.780 A PROBLEM OR THAT AN IMPORTANT
02:20 - 01.160 JOB PERFORMERS WILL NOT
02:21 - 02.710 SIGNIFICANTLY BE AFFECTED BY
02:21 - 02.790 THE
02:21 - 05.580 ILLEGAL DRUG. SO MY TERMINATION
02:21 - 07.200 MADE FOR THEIR INVESTIGATION
02:21 - 08.800 MADE AND WHETHER THE USE OF
02:21 - 09.530 THIS DRUG.
02:21 - 12.200 >>WAS I'M GOING TO COMPROMISE
02:21 - 14.300 THIS EMPLOYEE'S ABILITY TO DO
02:21 - 14.890 HIS JOB.
02:21 - 16.870 >>AND THEY NEVER GOT TO THAT
02:21 - 18.550 POINT BUT MY POINT IS HAD THE
02:21 - 20.670 CLAIMANT BELIEVE THAT HE WAS
02:21 - 22.410 TAKING ILLEGAL DRUGS HE STARTED
02:21 - 23.850 OFF THE GAME NEVER DONE TO
02:21 - 25.430 ENSURE THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T HE
02:21 - 27.680 DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THEM AND BY
02:21 - 30.050 DOING THAT AND PROVIDE THEM
02:21 - 32.990 WITH AND MY CORRECTING
02:21 - 34.480 HER CALLING THE.
02:21 - 36.400 >>THERE WAS TESTIMONY
02:21 - 39.640 ABOUT TRAINING WHICH ADVISE US
02:21 - 41.340 CLAIMANTS THAT.
02:21 - 44.440 THE RESULTS OF THE TEST
02:21 - 47.600 WOULDN'T BE SENT EVEN IN AND HE
02:21 - 49.060 SHOWED HIS MEDICAL MARIJUANA
02:21 - 49.370 CARD.
02:21 - 52.720 >>THERE WAS A TESTIMONY
02:21 - 55.030 TO THAT EFFECT IN THAT ACTUALLY
02:21 - 56.620 IS WRITTEN IN THE POLICY.
02:21 - 58.950 HOWEVER GETTING BACK TO MY
02:21 - 01.070 ORIGINAL POINT A CLAIMANT
02:22 - 03.440 BELIEVE THAT HE WAS TAKING A
02:22 - 05.600 LEGAL DRUG AND THAT HE HAD
02:22 - 07.320 ABOUT PRESCRIPTION FOR THAT
02:22 - 09.440 LETHAL DRUG. BEFORE YOU EVEN
02:22 - 11.780 GET TO THE DRUG TESTING PROCESS
02:22 - 13.760 TO RANDOM DRUG TEST PM ALL THE
02:22 - 15.720 GAY ISSUE UNDER THE POLICY TO
02:22 - 16.390 CALL THAT TO
02:22 - 19.690 THE ATTENTION AND THE IMPORTANT
02:22 - 21.390 TO THE POINT WHY DID YOU DID
02:22 - 22.890 YOU READ THAT PROVISION.
02:22 - 24.600 >>I DIDN'T HEAR THAT IN THERE.
02:22 - 26.350 >>BUT HE HAD AN OBLIGATION TO
02:22 - 28.090 MAKE IT THE EMPLOYER WHERE A
02:22 - 30.910 CRIME I DON'T LEAVE IT CREATED
02:22 - 32.460 A PROBLEM AND THE ONLY
02:22 - 34.340 REASON THAT HE WAS TERMINATED.
02:22 - 36.290 HIS EMPLOYMENT WAS TERMINATED
02:22 - 38.200 BECAUSE HE FAILED A DRUG TEST.
02:22 - 40.960 >>HIS JOB PERFORMANCE.
02:22 - 44.390 THAT IS MY POINT IS TO CLAIM
02:22 - 45.430 HIS POSITION IS
02:22 - 48.220 I WAS TAKING IN I WAS UNDER THE
02:22 - 50.380 IMPRESSION IN BELIEVE THAT I
02:22 - 52.040 WAS TAKING A LEGAL DRUG.
02:22 - 54.200 THE POLICY SAYS IF YOU ARE
02:22 - 57.130 TAKING ILLEGAL DRUG THAT HE PWS
02:22 - 58.830 SAY HE'S I THINK ITS OWN
02:22 - 00.780 ASSESSMENT OF WHETHER YOU CAN
02:23 - 02.570 SAFELY PERFORM THE JOB IN OTHER
02:23 - 03.960 WORDS YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO
02:23 - 05.550 SAY THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO
02:23 - 06.680 MARKET IMPACTED OUR
02:23 - 09.060 PERFORMANCE. MY POINT IS THIS
02:23 - 10.860 GOES TO THE I WORD HERE.
02:23 - 12.990 >>YOUR CLIENT WAS DEPRIVED OF
02:23 - 15.830 THAT OPPORTUNITY. 100 TAKE
02:23 - 17.570 BETTER NOW I DON'T WANT TO
02:23 - 22.290 BE CLEAR MY WHAT A
02:23 - 24.620 POLICY REQUIRED ALL RIGHT, AND
02:23 - 27.270 YOU HEARD ENDED TODAY IS THAT
02:23 - 29.170 IN NOTRE DAM.
02:23 - 31.110 WELL, AN EMPLOYEE BETTER FOR
02:23 - 33.750 FRIED MEDICAL MARIJUANA LEGALLY
02:23 - 35.920 UNDER STATE LAW WILL BE ALLOWED
02:23 - 36.930 TO REMAIN EMPLOYED.
02:23 - 39.070 >>WELL FOR A PROBATIONARY
02:23 - 41.390 EMPLOYEE UNDER THE
02:23 - 45.830 AND IF YOU'RE NOT HOME WHEN YOU
02:23 - 48.510 ENTER INTO A LAST CHANCE TO BE
02:23 - 49.290 WITH REGARD TO.
02:23 - 51.230 BUT MY POINT WITH THE PROVISION
02:23 - 52.750 IS THE CLAIM IT DOES HAVE SOME
02:23 - 54.520 OBLIGATIONS AND YOU CANNOT NOW
02:23 - 56.610 CLEAN. BUT I WAS CONFUSED AND
02:23 - 57.830 WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION
02:23 - 59.850 BECAUSE HAD HE FOLLOWED HIS
02:23 - 01.500 OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE U HAUL
02:24 - 02.470 UNDER THE POLICY
02:24 - 04.410 BEFORE THE JOINT TASK EVEN TOOK
02:24 - 06.530 PLACE NEAR 40 WOULD ADD THE
02:24 - 09.140 ABILITY TO WE'RE HIM WAIT A
02:24 - 09.420 MINUTE
02:24 - 11.980 TIME OUT MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS
02:24 - 13.750 STILL ILLEGAL UNDER FEDERAL
02:24 - 14.200 LAW.
02:24 - 16.360 AND OUR POLICY
02:24 - 18.400 FOLLOWS BOTH FEDERAL AND STATE
02:24 - 20.340 LAW THEREFORE YOU CANNOT TAKE.
02:24 - 22.290 SO THE CLAIM THAT CANNOT NOW
02:24 - 23.730 SAY WAIT A MINUTE. I
02:24 - 25.650 WAS CONFUSED. I THOUGHT IT WAS
02:24 - 27.350 LEGAL BECAUSE HE HIMSELF
02:24 - 29.270 NOT FOLLOW THE PROPER
02:24 - 31.060 PROCEDURES FOR LEGAL DRUG IN
02:24 - 32.470 DEPRIVED THE OPPORTUNITY.
02:24 - 33.620 IF YOU HAVE YOUR SAY
02:24 - 36.100 THE OPPORTUNITY TO INFORM WITH
02:24 - 37.440 ALL WITH ALL DUE RESPECT
02:24 - 38.510 COUNCIL WITH THEM.
02:24 - 40.950 >>BEATING A DEAD HORSE. YOU
02:24 - 42.560 KEEP SAYING THAT THE EMPLOYEE
02:24 - 44.320 HAD THE BURDEN TO COME FORWARD.
02:24 - 48.880 POINT TO SOME LAW TO COME BACK
02:24 - 49.210 TO YOU.
02:24 - 51.040 I MEAN WHEN IT WHEN I ASK MY
02:24 - 53.110 QUESTION BEFORE JUST RELYING
02:24 - 56.130 FAITH IN HIM. YOU KNOW
02:24 - 58.100 CONTRACT INTERPRETATION, A
02:24 - 58.700 POLICY
02:24 - 01.490 STATEMENT LETTER THAT WHATEVER
02:25 - 03.230 SOMEBODY WRITING A DOCUMENT
02:25 - 04.700 THOUGH IS GOING TO BE CONSTRUED
02:25 - 06.780 AGAINST THE DRAFT OR CAN YOU
02:25 - 07.160 POINT
02:25 - 10.050 OUT TOO. PROVISION THAT WE
02:25 - 11.340 SHOULD BE RELYING UPON THAT IT
02:25 - 12.960 WOULD BE EMPLOYER'S OBLIGATION
02:25 - 15.410 EMPLOYEES OBLIGATION. A NEW DAY
02:25 - 16.830 I BELIEVE IN AND BEGIN READING
02:25 - 20.930 WHAT I CAN POINT YOU TO IS THE
02:25 - 22.240 CLAIMANTS, AFFIRMATIVE
02:25 - 24.290 OBLIGATION TO BRING TO THE
02:25 - 26.970 ATTENTION OF THE A QUOTE LEGAL
02:25 - 28.780 DRUG HE WAS TAKING. IF YOU
02:25 - 29.960 TRULY BELIEVE THAT HE WAS
02:25 - 32.040 TAKING AN ILLEGAL DROP AT THAT
02:25 - 32.330 POINT
02:25 - 36.360 IN TIME THE PWS A FEW MORE.
02:25 - 38.100 >>I WAS NOT THE RIGHT I
02:25 - 40.780 UNDERSTAND OR ANOTHER OPIOID
02:25 - 42.240 UNDERTAKER ON THE FACT THAT
02:25 - 43.660 YOU'RE WELL ON YOUR TIME AND
02:25 - 45.200 YOUR BURGER I'M FOR REBUTTAL.
02:25 - 47.320 I THINK WE WILL NOW MOVE ON
02:25 - 48.460 FRANCE.
02:25 - 51.120 >>AND IF PRE.
02:25 - 56.920 BOARD OF REVIEW, CORRECT.
02:25 - 00.060 >>GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONORS
02:26 - 01.430 AND AS I STATED BEFORE LIKE TO
02:26 - 03.180 RESERVE HAPPEN TIME FOR I'M A
02:26 - 05.160 SURGEON AT THEM OTHERWISE BEEN
02:26 - 05.870 ACCOUNTED FOR.
02:26 - 08.300 INCLUDES
02:26 - 10.320 A SPORT ON IS THIS PRISON WHERE
02:26 - 12.280 THE LAW IS REMEDIAL IT'S
02:26 - 13.030 INTENSE.
02:26 - 16.160 WELL THING PROVISIONS REQUIRE A
02:26 - 17.890 LIBERAL INTERPRETATION IN ORDER
02:26 - 18.040 TO
02:26 - 20.310 CARRY OUT. THE DECLARATION OF
02:26 - 21.440 PUBLIC POLICY INCEPTION
02:26 - 23.950 3 IS TOO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE
02:26 - 25.200 INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE DUE TO NO
02:26 - 25.930 FAULT OF THEIR OWN.
02:26 - 28.690 NOW YOU THE AS YOU KNOW THE
02:26 - 29.720 DISQUALIFYING PROVISION AT
02:26 - 31.780 ISSUE IS SECTION FOR 2.1.
02:26 - 34.300 AND THIS COULD INTERRUPTING
02:26 - 35.460 THIS PROVISION AS A MATTER OF
02:26 - 36.780 FIRST IMPRESSION WHEN YOU DIE
02:26 - 37.630 UTILITIES.
02:26 - 40.820 THE 2 PRONGS FOR THE CARDS MEET
02:26 - 42.330 HIS INITIAL BURDEN ONE THAT IT
02:26 - 44.380 HAS AN ADOPTED SUBSTANCE ABUSE
02:26 - 45.850 POLICY INTO THAT THE CLAIMANT
02:26 - 48.110 VIA LONDON. A PETITION CONTENDS
02:26 - 50.490 THAT AND YOU ONLY HAVE A POLICY
02:26 - 51.880 TO NOT SHOW SOME SORT OF FAIR
02:26 - 53.580 NOTICE THAT OF COURSE WOULD
02:26 - 55.820 CONTRAVENE THE MEAL INTENT OF
02:26 - 56.320 THE LAW.
02:26 - 59.390 AND IT'S CLEAR HERE THAT
02:26 - 00.830 THERE'S THERE'S CLEAR AND
02:27 - 02.150 BEAUTY WITHIN THE EMPLOYER'S
02:27 - 03.890 POLICY. WE SHOULD BE CONSTRUED
02:27 - 05.580 AGAINST EMPLOYER AS
02:27 - 08.070 YOU NOTED MEMBERS OF THIS PANEL
02:27 - 09.720 HAVE NOTED THAT WHILE THE
02:27 - 11.140 POLICY DOES THE FINE ILLEGAL
02:27 - 13.150 DRUGS ANYTHING UNDER FEDERAL
02:27 - 13.890 LAW UNDER THE CONTROLLED
02:27 - 15.060 SUBSTANCE ACT BECAUSE ON
02:27 - 17.960 FURTHER JUST THAT JOBS. OUR
02:27 - 19.960 ANYTHING THAT'S A CRIME BY A
02:27 - 21.150 PHYSICIAN OR CAN BE RECEIVED
02:27 - 21.870 OVER THE COUNTER.
02:27 - 24.780 LET ME LET ME JUST ADDRESS THAT
02:27 - 26.800 POINT MY FRIEND, MISTER THOMAS
02:27 - 29.100 ADDRESS. THAT IS THE FIRM
02:27 - 30.020 OF OBLIGATION.
02:27 - 32.540 ONE HAS LISTEN THE AUSSIE I
02:27 - 33.870 MEAN HE WAS NEVER THIS WAS
02:27 - 34.880 NEVER RAISED AT
02:27 - 36.770 THE HEARING AND THIS PARTICULAR
02:27 - 37.890 AFFIRMATIVE DUTY WAS NEVER
02:27 - 39.620 RAISED AT THE HEARING AND THEY
02:27 - 40.970 JUST CATEGORICALLY SAID THAT WE
02:27 - 41.850 CAN'T TOLERATE
02:27 - 43.540 A MEDICAL MARIJUANA BECAUSE
02:27 - 44.720 IT'S A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
02:27 - 46.460 UNDER FEDERAL LAW. THIS WAS
02:27 - 48.500 NEVER RAISED AND IT WAS SIMPLY
02:27 - 49.910 THAT WE CAN TOLERATE IT.
02:27 - 52.170 WHEN WE'RE TO THAT POINT
02:27 - 53.950 I THINK JUST COMING IN ALLEN
02:27 - 55.100 HAD THIS IS REALLY MORE LIKE A
02:27 - 55.790 GOTCHA MOMENT.
02:27 - 58.320 SAYING THAT WAS CONFUSED AND HE
02:27 - 58.450 WAS
02:27 - 00.410 INSTRUCTED THAT. AND IF YOU
02:28 - 02.380 FIRST EVIDENCE OF A PRESCRIBED.
02:28 - 06.020 WE DIFFER IS ALSO ONE BEFORE
02:28 - 07.860 AND THEREFORE WHAT LED TO HIS
02:28 - 10.150 DISCHARGE AND THAT IS MY SECOND
02:28 - 12.230 HOME. THEY IMPLORED HIM FOLLOW
02:28 - 13.680 HIS POLICY IN PRACTICE.
02:28 - 15.670 THE RESULT FOR NEVERTHELESS FOR
02:28 - 17.220 TO DISPLAY HIM FURNISHING
02:28 - 18.720 EVIDENCE OF HIS PRESCRIBE USE.
02:28 - 21.310 AND HE WAS STILL DISCHARGES.
02:28 - 25.420 I A 3RD POINT
02:28 - 28.300 IS THAT. YOU SEARCH FOR 2
02:28 - 29.530 PEOPLE ONE WAS REALLY NOT
02:28 - 31.200 INTENDED TO PENALIZE.
02:28 - 34.120 WORKERS FOR A LAWFUL
02:28 - 36.000 PRESCRIBE USE THE RATHER IT'S
02:28 - 37.730 CLEARLY INTENDED TO PARALYZE
02:28 - 39.540 AND DISCOURAGE SUBSTANCE USE OR
02:28 - 41.550 MISUSE. THERE'S ACTUALLY
02:28 - 42.770 ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE ON THE
02:28 - 43.850 RECORD THAT THE CLAIM WAS
02:28 - 45.880 ABUSING OR MISUSING MEDICAL
02:28 - 47.090 MARIJUANA THERE'S NO EVIDENCE
02:28 - 50.070 THAT HE USE IT ON DUTY. AND
02:28 - 50.950 THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT HE WAS
02:28 - 52.420 IMPAIRED AND I THINK THERE IS A
02:28 - 53.320 GENERAL PRESUMPTION THAT
02:28 - 54.620 SOMEONE WILL FALL OFF
02:28 - 57.890 AND HE WAS AS THE BOARD FOUND
02:28 - 59.230 USING MEDICAL MARIJUANA
02:28 - 00.390 MARIJUANA PURSUANT TO HIS
02:29 - 02.060 PRESCRIPTION PURSUANT TO THE
02:29 - 03.040 NECK MARIJUANA ACT.
02:29 - 07.080 COUNCIL VERY DIFFERENT THUNDER
02:29 - 07.230 THE
02:29 - 08.370 MMA BETWEEN.
02:29 - 11.060 >>THE EMPLOYERS RIGHT TO CHARGE
02:29 - 11.900 OR DISCIPLINE.
02:29 - 14.730 VERSION AND THEN UNDER THE
02:29 - 17.380 EMPLOYMENT. A LOT OF RIGHT TO.
02:29 - 19.120 WE KEEP THE BENEFIT.
02:29 - 21.800 >>THERE IS 2 DIFFERENT
02:29 - 22.810 PROVISIONS IN THE MEDICAL
02:29 - 24.350 MARIJUANA ACT I THINK WOULD
02:29 - 26.250 CLEARLY AND IT'S THIS COURT
02:29 - 27.630 WOULD REJECT OVER ARGUMENTS
02:29 - 29.230 UNDER EU SEAGER'S PRINCE
02:29 - 32.060 21 WOULD PROBABLY LIKELY
02:29 - 33.120 CONSTRAIN THE BOARD FROM
02:29 - 34.250 DENYING BENEFITS.
02:29 - 37.660 21 '03 B. I THINK JUST COME FOR
02:29 - 39.080 A RAGE A
02:29 - 40.870 CIVIL CLAIM. I THINK MISTER
02:29 - 42.760 JIANG ADDRESS THAT AND GREATER
02:29 - 43.340 DETAIL.
02:29 - 46.920 BUT AGAIN I DON'T THINK WE NEED
02:29 - 48.790 TO GO OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE
02:29 - 50.460 OLDER YOU COULD WHAT WHICH ONE
02:29 - 50.630 WOULD.
02:29 - 54.090 >>CONSTRAIN YOU FROM AND HE
02:29 - 55.570 WENT ON A BOARD IN THE 5TH OR
02:29 - 56.250 NOT OKAY.
02:29 - 58.590 >>AND 21 '03 AND IT'S CLEARLY
02:29 - 00.290 INTENDED TO PREVENT SOME SORT
02:30 - 01.110 OF SANCTION FROM THE
02:30 - 02.550 GOVERNMENT. THE BOARD AS A
02:30 - 03.760 GOVERNMENT ACTOR WOULD NOT BE
02:30 - 05.900 ALLOWED TO A SANCTION NEED
02:30 - 07.880 CLAIMANTS, A LAWFUL PRESCRIBE
02:30 - 08.400 USE.
02:30 - 13.580 A YOU KNOW DEFER TO MUCH OF
02:30 - 15.150 MUCH OF THE
02:30 - 17.130 THOSE POSITIONS FROM SURGING ON
02:30 - 18.410 I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH UNLESS
02:30 - 20.500 THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS
02:30 - 21.220 AND FROM
02:30 - 23.550 THE PANEL. BUT EVEN THEY JUST
02:30 - 25.450 BRIEFLY IT'S CLEAR THAT THE
02:30 - 29.190 CLAIMANT WAS I I. I CAN
02:30 - 31.270 >>THE BOARD.
02:30 - 35.180 THAT.
02:30 - 37.430 >>EMPLOYER, THERE'S NO NEED TO
02:30 - 39.240 DEMONSTRATE WILLFUL MISCONDUCT.
02:30 - 43.670 WHEN YOU'RE CAUGHT OUT FAILING
02:30 - 45.060 A DRUG. THAT IS.
02:30 - 47.560 A TREE FELL.
02:30 - 52.950 >>WHY DID THE BOARD REQUIRED
02:30 - 54.960 AFP HOYER.
02:30 - 57.700 THAT THE FAILURE
02:30 - 59.630 WAS AN INTENTIONAL OR KNOWING
02:30 - 02.100 FAILURE OF A DRUG COME.
02:31 - 03.630 >>YEAH, I THINK THE BOARD WAS
02:31 - 05.440 LOOKING TO ITS CLOSE COUSIN FOR
02:31 - 06.840 2 YEARS. ONE
02:31 - 07.900 CLOSE COUSIN, THE WILL FROM
02:31 - 09.690 THIS KIND OF PROVISION BUT WHAT
02:31 - 11.250 MISCONDUCT IS NOT REQUIRED.
02:31 - 13.470 HOWEVER AS WE OUTLINED IN THE
02:31 - 15.940 GRIEF IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE
02:31 - 17.610 SECTION 3 THAT IS TRUE THAT THE
02:31 - 19.040 CLEANEST AND WORK TO NO FAULT
02:31 - 20.730 OF HIS OWN AROUND 4 OF
02:31 - 22.830 HIS OWN. AND WE SHOULD ENFORCE
02:31 - 23.850 SOME SORT OF FAIR NOTICE
02:31 - 26.070 COMPONENT INTO ESTABLISH
02:31 - 27.280 SUBSTANCE ABUSE POLICY.
02:31 - 31.600 THE BOARD WAS CONCLUDING THAT
02:31 - 31.780 YOU.
02:31 - 33.500 >>I CONNECTED. OKAY.
02:31 - 35.980 >>YEAH, YES, YOUR CLEAN IT WAS
02:31 - 37.440 WITHOUT FAIR NOTICE THAT REALLY
02:31 - 38.730 THIS POLICY WILL BE IN FORCE
02:31 - 40.740 AGAINST HIS LAWFUL PRESCRIBE
02:31 - 42.310 USE AND THEREFORE HE DIDN'T
02:31 - 43.630 INTENTIONALLY VIOLATED OR EVEN
02:31 - 44.620 KNOWINGLY VIOLATED.
02:31 - 48.870 >>I AGAIN I I DON'T HAVE
02:31 - 50.860 ANYTHING I THINK IT'S CLEAR
02:31 - 50.970 THAT
02:31 - 52.860 THE CLAIM AND WE'RE DUE TO NO
02:31 - 54.000 FAULT OF HIS OWN AND I AND I
02:31 - 55.030 ASK THIS COURT TO FROM THE
02:31 - 56.880 GRANT AND BENEFITS. THANK YOU.
02:32 - 08.630 >>AND WE CAN'T CAN'T HEAR YOU.
02:32 - 32.200 GOING IN NOW.
02:32 - 39.330 >>HE IS FROM AND
02:32 - 42.850 IT'S TOO. AND YOUR MOM.
02:33 - 05.560 >>I CAN HEAR NOW BUT BEFORE
02:33 - 06.900 THERE WAS A PERIOD
02:33 - 18.390 >>ULTIMATELY THE WHO. MICE TO
02:33 - 21.720 SEE HIM. MORE WEEKS. YOU NOW
02:33 - 23.840 ON. IN REGARDS
02:33 - 26.440 IMPLEMENTATION POLICIES.
02:33 - 37.840 THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA NOW.
02:33 - 48.910 EMPLOYEES FOR YOU
02:33 - 51.500 >>AND
02:33 - 57.100 >>A BASE IN 21 '03 BE MEAN UP
02:33 - 59.170 TO THEN THEY ARE NOT.
02:34 - 02.170 NOTHING TO REQUIRE THEM TO MAKE
02:34 - 04.370 AN ACCOMMODATION OR LIMIT THE A
02:34 - 06.140 PLOY TO INCLUDE THE ABILITY TO
02:34 - 07.650 DISCIPLINE FOR BEING UNDER THE
02:34 - 08.080 INFLUENCE.
02:34 - 10.440 AND THAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE
02:34 - 12.530 BOARD LOOKING AT THE BOARD WAS
02:34 - 14.050 LOOKING AT THE POLICY THOUGH,
02:34 - 16.390 AND WE ARE GETTING MEDICAL
02:34 - 17.610 MARIJUANA ACT YOU'RE MAKING
02:34 - 18.760 ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ARGUMENT.
02:34 - 19.610 I'M NOT SURE YOU WANT TO.
02:34 - 25.960 >>AND NOW.
02:34 - 27.970 >>HE MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
02:34 - 33.680 MUNICIPALITIES.
02:34 - 36.450 FROM
02:34 - 39.310 THE NORM AND WE DID. TO.
02:34 - 41.210 USES FROM
02:34 - 43.860 NOW ON. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT YOU,
02:34 - 47.350 YES THE SUIT. WE SEE PARALLELS
02:34 - 49.940 HERE. HE IT WOULD
02:34 - 52.820 BE TOO. THE PERSON HOME.
02:34 - 55.660 LAW WHO USE THIS OF MEDICAL
02:34 - 57.650 MARIJUANA. THE EAST.
02:34 - 02.110 LIGHT WINDS AND LEAVE IT
02:35 - 03.780 TO HER I WAS IN MEDICAL
02:35 - 04.800 MARIJUANA ISSUE.
02:35 - 08.860 HE'S
02:35 - 11.350 AT PEACE ARE PROTECTED BY.
02:35 - 14.260 SO WHEN WE HAVE.
02:35 - 17.380 >>PROTECTED IN WHAT WAY
02:35 - 17.990 COUNCIL.
02:35 - 20.930 THERE'S SOMETHING YOU'RE MAKING
02:35 - 24.190 A GOOD ARGUMENT. I MEAN I'M
02:35 - 25.820 PART PEOPLE HOME I WAS
02:35 - 26.570 REFERRING TO.
02:35 - 28.630 >>SO HE.
02:35 - 38.220 FROM THE DEPARTMENT
02:35 - 42.520 A POLICY.
02:35 - 46.410 BELIEVE YOU PERSON COME FROM
02:35 - 48.310 THE MOST NOW ON.
02:35 - 54.570 BESIDE HIM.
02:35 - 59.370 AND B NOT BE NOT
02:35 - 01.980 AND THE FOR SOME COMPANIES NOT
02:36 - 04.380 BE FUNNY. I MEAN REALLY GOING
02:36 - 06.520 TO COURT AND QUESTIONS ABOUT
02:36 - 09.890 THE USE MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS.
02:36 - 11.990 SOME SORT OF ILLEGAL.
02:36 - 24.780 ANYONE WHO AWFULLY AWFULLY IS
02:36 - 32.770 TO UNEMPLOYMENT UP TO E.
02:36 - 35.860 SO IT'S UNCLEAR HOW
02:36 - 38.790 LOW SPEED. THE DECISION AND WE
02:36 - 40.330 IN SPORTS. HE.
02:36 - 44.340 HE AND WHOEVER HE WANTS.
02:36 - 50.070 GERMANY PEOPLE
02:36 - 52.330 THAT USE MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
02:36 - 54.940 OR. AND WE LOVE
02:36 - 57.110 AN EXCUSE IOWA CITY.
02:36 - 00.300 >>AND THAT'S NOT THE YEAR IN
02:37 - 02.400 KING PEOPLE NEEDED TO HEAR AND
02:37 - 04.010 FEEL YOUR TO PASS THE DRUG TEST
02:37 - 05.040 NOT THAT IT.
02:37 - 08.290 THAT THEIR LANGUAGE IN THERE
02:37 - 09.910 THAT PROHIBIT THEM FROM THE
02:37 - 12.500 CHARGING FROM THERE THAT IS I
02:37 - 14.110 THINK YOUR ARGUMENT IS THAT.
02:37 - 17.910 WHILE THE EMPLOYER MAY HAVE
02:37 - 19.260 BEEN ABLE TO TAKE DISCIPLINARY
02:37 - 21.490 ACTION FOR BEING UNDER THE
02:37 - 23.630 INFLUENCE. IT CANNOT BE DENIED.
02:37 - 25.950 A BENEFIT UNDER
02:37 - 28.130 THE MMA I THINK THAT'S WHAT
02:37 - 30.090 HERE I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOU.
02:37 - 33.750 BECAUSE OF THE NEW PROVISION.
02:37 - 37.780 >>THE NEW NEED FOR THEM.
02:37 - 40.610 YOU KNOW WHO THE PROCEEDS WHERE
02:37 - 41.160 TO.
02:37 - 44.820 >>AND THAT.
02:37 - 52.110 IT DOESN'T MATTER.
02:37 - 55.600 THE DRUG OR NOT.
02:37 - 58.950 PERSONALLY THE MEDICAL
02:37 - 01.830 MARIJUANA USE. A NIGHT.
02:38 - 05.040 UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, 5 TO 8.
02:38 - 25.400 YEARS WHO
02:38 - 28.040 RULED THAT BE
02:38 - 30.910 AN INCREDIBLY AND THE FIGHT FOR
02:38 - 32.880 THEM APARTMENTS. YEARS.
02:38 - 35.650 LIKEWISE
02:38 - 39.440 AND PART OF IT.
02:38 - 41.330 DOES THIS
02:38 - 43.480 HONORABLE COURT. I MEAN I
02:38 - 45.700 ANALYZE THE PHONE NOT PASS
02:38 - 50.020 YOU KNOW MAYBE A FEW OF MY FEET
02:38 - 52.210 FROM HIM IS THE EFFECT BE ON
02:38 - 56.820 ON IMPROVING. WE'RE NOT AT ALL
02:38 - 57.130 A C.
02:38 - 00.320 AND FORD
02:39 - 04.640 AND LOU. HOW IS HE AND AS
02:39 - 07.020 POLICY. HE IS I WAS.
02:39 - 10.480 >>SO WHAT WHAT THE THE PERFECT
02:39 - 13.180 VISION APPLY TO THE PETITIONER
02:39 - 15.520 IN THE CASE APPLY TO THE POINT
02:39 - 16.220 IN CASE.
02:39 - 18.890 >>YOU REFERRING
02:39 - 24.140 >>I WORRY YOU KNOW WHO IS NOT
02:39 - 26.070 IS SUBJECT TO PROSECUTION OR
02:39 - 27.420 PENALTY OR DENY ANY RIGHT
02:39 - 27.960 PRIVILEGE.
02:39 - 33.150 >>PEOPLE ARE HURT WHO
02:39 - 35.760 YOU ARE. EVEN
02:39 - 38.040 THE RIGHT. A LOT
02:39 - 41.410 I WANNA PARTS.
02:39 - 47.110 IN THAT OVER THE NEXT HOUR.
02:39 - 50.620 OR PEACE AND AS THEY'RE DEFINED
02:39 - 53.250 IN THE M M OR SOMETHING TO THAT
02:39 - 56.880 EFFECT. AND MISTER SEEGER WAS
02:39 - 59.030 HE FROM HE HAS TO BE A HOOT.
02:40 - 01.810 AND YOU PROTECT WHO WE
02:40 - 04.440 COULD SEE AND THE PENALTIES I
02:40 - 05.130 CAN BE YOU.
02:40 - 09.930 WE'RE GOING TO BE ONE
02:40 - 11.870 UNDER AND SO BEING HERE.
02:40 - 13.920 UNEMPLOYMENT UP 8.
02:40 - 16.770 >>IS HE BEING DENIED THE
02:40 - 17.640 PRIVILEGE.
02:40 - 21.440 BECAUSE HE USED IT
02:40 - 23.140 OR BECAUSE HE TESTED NEGATIVE
02:40 - 24.720 AND POSITIVE IN A DRUG TEST.
02:40 - 27.970 >>ABSOLUTELY A COMMON SENSE
02:40 - 29.620 THING THAT A NEW MEDICAL
02:40 - 30.500 MARIJUANA LAW.
02:40 - 34.660 AND ON FILLING UP IS HARD.
02:40 - 37.140 HE IS FROM YOU
02:40 - 40.510 I WANT. SO BY FAMINE IN HER TO
02:40 - 41.770 DO IT IF THEY FEEL THAT.
02:40 - 44.900 YOUR TURN TO THEM BECAUSE THE
02:40 - 46.600 LAW WHO USE MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
02:40 - 48.810 >>UNLESS YOU HAVE PROOF OF THE
02:40 - 50.940 LEGAL YEARS. BUT THERE IS AN
02:40 - 53.690 ACE. 2 PERSONS TO WHOM.
02:40 - 56.540 IS JUST TO HER.
02:40 - 57.980 MUST
02:40 - 00.700 BE GRANTED. CLEARLY THE BOTTOM
02:41 - 03.640 TO BENEFITS IF WE FOLLOW THE
02:41 - 06.800 THAT
02:41 - 10.630 IS BINDING UPON THE POOR
02:41 - 14.700 AND THE PARALLELS TO HIM.
02:41 - 17.350 TO HE SAYS HERE ON THE FACTUAL.
02:41 - 19.700 SOME AREAS THE BOOM.
02:41 - 23.870 AND MEDICAL MARIJUANA PATIENTS
02:41 - 25.200 WHO WOULD YOU ARE.
02:41 - 28.680 TESTY BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
02:41 - 31.180 GROUP A POSITIVE NOTE
02:41 - 32.960 WITH MARIJUANA, NOT PEOPLE.
02:41 - 46.650 PERSON WHO HAS A MEDICAL
02:41 - 49.420 MARIJUANA AND WOULD IT BE ALSO
02:41 - 50.170 NOT BE TONIGHT.
02:42 - 01.850 >>ALL RIGHT MISTER COMMENTS YOU
02:42 - 04.790 WENT OVER YOUR TIME. ENDURE.
02:42 - 10.380 I WILL ALLOW 2 MINUTES
02:42 - 12.200 FOR REBUTTAL. I HAVE A QUICK
02:42 - 13.660 QUESTION THE VERY START.
02:42 - 16.650 WHY DID THE EMPLOYER.
02:42 - 18.820 FORWARD I HAD TO REBUILD
02:42 - 20.250 FORWARD TO THEM.
02:42 - 22.060 AFTER THE CLAIMANT SHOW THEY
02:42 - 23.600 HAD A PRESCRIPTION CARD THAT
02:42 - 25.720 WOULD BE. CONTRARY TO
02:42 - 26.450 THE POLICY.
02:42 - 28.400 >>BECAUSE IT IS IT WAS NOT
02:42 - 29.610 ABOUT PRESCRIPTION UNDER
02:42 - 31.060 FEDERAL LAW. THE
02:42 - 33.740 POLICY ITSELF. THE SAYS THAT
02:42 - 35.320 THE ILLEGAL DRUGS WILL BE
02:42 - 37.430 ANYTHING THAT'S PROHIBITED BY
02:42 - 38.290 FEDERAL OR
02:42 - 40.870 STATE LAW UNDER FEDERAL LAW
02:42 - 42.360 THERE CANNOT BE A VALID
02:42 - 43.470 PRESCRIPTION FOR MEDICAL
02:42 - 45.230 MARIJUANA. SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS
02:42 - 45.500 COOL.
02:42 - 51.390 I THINK MY
02:42 - 53.930 NUMBER ONE THERE YOU HEARD FROM
02:42 - 56.100 MISTER TREY IN FACT THE ISSUE
02:42 - 56.520 ABOUT THE
02:42 - 58.650 AFFIRMATIVE OBLIGATION. BRING
02:42 - 00.080 THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA CARD TO
02:43 - 01.280 THE ATTENTION OF YOUR CORNER
02:43 - 02.770 WAS NOT DISCUSS IT FOR FREE
02:43 - 05.090 SPIRIT. THAT'S BECAUSE NUMBER
02:43 - 06.080 ONE HAS READ THE BOARD'S
02:43 - 08.410 DECISION THE POLICY ITSELF WAS
02:43 - 10.580 IN IMPROPERLY EXCLUDED AT THE
02:43 - 11.580 REFEREES HEARINGS
02:43 - 13.600 AND THEREFORE HE EMPLOYS
02:43 - 14.820 REPRESENTATIVE THIS MORNING
02:43 - 17.690 JUST FOR MEMORY CARE PUT THAT
02:43 - 19.830 BACK ALL SEATS IS NOW IN
02:43 - 22.010 YOUR RECORD WITH THE EMPLOYER
02:43 - 24.520 DID HAVE POURING INTO THE
02:43 - 25.120 HEARING IS THAT
02:43 - 27.100 THEY HAD 2 COMPONENTS FOR THEIR
02:43 - 28.400 BIRD NUMBER ONE WAS AN
02:43 - 30.330 ESTABLISHED POLICY. IF YOU READ
02:43 - 31.450 THE BOARD'S DECISION
02:43 - 33.830 THEY CONCLUDED, AND IT'S A
02:43 - 35.430 BINDING CONCLUSION THAT THERE
02:43 - 36.920 WAS IN FACT AN ESTABLISHED
02:43 - 39.150 POLICY. THE OTHER FACTOR THAT
02:43 - 40.410 THEY HAD TO PROVE IS THAT THERE
02:43 - 42.590 WAS A VIOLATION OF POLICY AND
02:43 - 43.890 THEY CONCLUSIVELY ESTABLISH
02:43 - 45.060 THAT THERE WAS A VIOLATION OF
02:43 - 46.380 THE POLICY BECAUSE
02:43 - 49.590 MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS ILLEGAL
02:43 - 51.210 WITH FEDERAL LAW. SO THAT'S ALL
02:43 - 52.180 CLEAR AT
02:43 - 54.730 THE DEW AND NOW ALL THE SUDDEN
02:43 - 56.120 POURED THROUGH THIS EXTRA
02:43 - 57.590 REQUIREMENTS IN THERE.
02:43 - 59.260 ACCORDING TO MISTER JIANG'S
02:43 - 00.550 ARGUMENTS WITH REGARD TO
02:44 - 02.870 SO-CALLED IMMUNITY CLAUSE
02:44 - 06.510 WHICH IS 21 IF YOU READ THAT
02:44 - 08.170 THAT APPLIES TO A COMMONWEALTH
02:44 - 09.140 LICENSING BOARD
02:44 - 11.450 OR COMMISSION IS NOT APPLICABLE
02:44 - 13.800 TO THE IN THIS CASE
02:44 - 15.860 IN ANY EVENT WITH THE PWS SAY
02:44 - 17.730 IS IT'S AN EMPLOYER. IF YOU
02:44 - 18.920 LOOK AT THE NEXT SECTION.
02:44 - 21.350 NO 3 P. WHAT IT
02:44 - 23.170 SAYS IS IN A FOUR-YEAR CAN'T
02:44 - 25.850 DISCHARGE SOMEBODY SEOUL WE
02:44 - 26.160 ENACT
02:44 - 27.900 VERY IMPORTANT SOLELY ON THE
02:44 - 29.680 BASIS THAT THEY HAVE A MEDICAL
02:44 - 31.730 MARIJUANA CARD. WHAT WOULD THAT
02:44 - 33.620 SUGGEST THEY CAN DO IT STILL
02:44 - 35.950 HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE THAT
02:44 - 37.740 FOLLOWS FEDERAL LAW AND THEN IF
02:44 - 40.670 YOU ARE USING AND YOU HAVE THAT
02:44 - 42.110 IN YOUR SYSTEM YOU ARE
02:44 - 44.680 AT WORK. YOU CAN YOU CAN
02:44 - 46.640 DISCHARGE OR OTHERWISE
02:44 - 48.480 DISAPPOINTING SOMEBODY FOR THAT
02:44 - 50.160 I WANT TO MAKE MORE THAN ONE
02:44 - 51.830 POINT BEFORE MY TIME'S UP HERE
02:44 - 52.960 AND THAT IS THAT THIS IS
02:44 - 54.890 NOT AN ARBITRARY POSITION THAT
02:44 - 56.870 IT'S A STAKE IN I CAN TELL YOU
02:44 - 58.440 RIGHT NOW HEADING REPRESENTED A
02:44 - 59.360 LOT OF EMPLOYERS ARE.
02:45 - 01.160 I REPRESENT A LOT
02:45 - 03.510 OF PLAYERS. MEDICAL MARIJUANA
02:45 - 05.410 IS PRESENTING A VERY VERY
02:45 - 08.100 DIFFICULT ISSUE FOR LIKE OTHER
02:45 - 09.560 DRUGS THE SPACE IN YOUR SYSTEM
02:45 - 10.770 FOR 30 DAYS.
02:45 - 12.800 AND THERE'S NO CLEAR STANDARDS
02:45 - 14.120 FOR WHEN SOMEBODY IS QUOTE
02:45 - 15.640 UNDER THE INFLUENCE SO THEY ARE
02:45 - 17.800 STRUGGLING WITH THE SAFETY
02:45 - 20.120 ASPECTS OF IT AS WELL AS
02:45 - 22.840 THE ASPECT WHETHER IT'S GOING
02:45 - 23.370 TO IMPACT
02:45 - 25.090 SOMEBODYS PERFORMANCE. I CAN
02:45 - 28.960 TELL KIDNEY BUT LIKE ALL LAW
02:45 - 29.630 WHEN THERE ARE THERE
02:45 - 30.420 AMENDMENTS.
02:45 - 35.380 AND THE EMPLOYER OBLIGATION TO
02:45 - 37.320 UPDATE THEIR POLICY TO INFORM
02:45 - 38.040 THEIR EMPLOYEES.
02:45 - 41.110 >>NECESSARILY NEED TO UPDATE IT
02:45 - 43.260 BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR THAT MEDICAL
02:45 - 44.590 MARIJUANA STILL ILLEGAL UNDER
02:45 - 46.620 FEDERAL LAW. SO THIS GETS BACK
02:45 - 48.020 TO MY PRIOR POSITION THAT
02:45 - 50.240 HAPPY AND COREY THE CLEANUP
02:45 - 51.430 DONE WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO
02:45 - 53.320 DO. WE WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE
02:45 - 54.460 TODAY IS HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A
02:45 - 55.720 FORM HOLD ON
02:45 - 57.840 MARIJUANA IS STILL ILLEGAL
02:45 - 59.740 UNDER FEDERAL LAW. ON TOP OF
02:45 - 01.370 THAT HE COULD EASILY TOPPING
02:46 - 03.380 THE UNION. HE COULDN'T EVEN
02:46 - 05.650 TALK TO ANYBODY HE S W A T GET
02:46 - 06.600 A CLARIFICATION.
02:46 - 14.520 >>THAT CONCLUDES OUR ARGUMENT
02:46 - 16.750 OR NUMBER 22. THANK YOU
02:46 - 17.230 GENTLEMEN.
02:46 - 20.780 >>PCN BRINGS THE DISTINCT
02:46 - 22.770 ASPECTS OF PENNSYLVANIA AND ITS
02:46 - 24.010 RESIDENTS TO YOUR FAVORITE
02:46 - 25.650 SCREEN. HEAR FROM STATE
02:46 - 26.820 GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY
02:46 - 28.280 LEADERS DURING AN EDITED
02:46 - 30.090 BALANCED COVERAGE OF POLITICS
02:46 - 30.860 AND POLICY.
02:46 - 32.800 >>DIG INTO THE RICH HISTORY AND
02:46 - 34.420 CULTURE OF THE STATE PRESENTED
02:46 - 35.590 BY NOTABLE RESIDENTS
02:46 - 37.560 AND HISTORIAN SCORE A VIEW OF
02:46 - 39.050 THE BEST HIGH SCHOOL COLLEGE
02:46 - 40.260 AND WORLD CLASS ATHLETES
02:46 - 41.620 COMPETING ACROSS THE STATE.
02:46 - 43.520 >>AND MUCH MUCH MORE
02:46 - 45.330 START EXPLORING THE KEYSTONE
02:46 - 48.410 STATE TODAY ON PC M AND THE PCN
02:46 - 48.740 APP.
02:46 - 52.210 >>OUR FINAL OKAY FOR THEM.
02:46 - 55.340 ON FASHION IS NUMBER
02:46 - 59.190 THE CITY OF ERIE IN THE CITY A
02:47 - 01.810 WHO WAS IN FACT FIRST OF THE
02:47 - 03.770 ERIE COUNTY BOARD OF A FAT MAN
02:47 - 05.840 APPEAL AND THE ERIE
02:47 - 07.040 COUNTY CONVENTION.
02:47 - 10.590 UNDER AUTHORITY. A CITY OF ERIE
02:47 - 11.080 AND THE
02:47 - 14.010 A SCHOOL DISTRICT APPEAL, A
02:47 - 14.460 TRIAL
02:47 - 17.000 COURT DECISION. HOLDING THAT TO
02:47 - 19.420 HOTEL OWNED BY THE ERIE COUNTY
02:47 - 20.160 CONVENTION
02:47 - 22.060 CENTER AUTHORITY NOT BE
02:47 - 24.320 REQUIRED TO PAY LOCAL REAL
02:47 - 26.830 ESTATE TAX. THE AUTHORITY OF
02:47 - 29.480 THE HOUSE HOTEL TOO REPORT
02:47 - 29.840 CAROL
02:47 - 31.840 VAN YEARS BUT THE AUTHORITY
02:47 - 33.760 OWNS AND OPERATES INCLUDING A
02:47 - 36.270 CONVENTION CENTER A THEATER AND
02:47 - 37.680 MARINA AND THE PARK.
02:47 - 40.880 BECAUSE THE HOTEL DIRECTLY FOR
02:47 - 42.280 GENERAL PURPOSE OF THE
02:47 - 44.090 AUTHORITY. A TRIAL COURT.
02:47 - 46.750 AND HOW THAT THE AUTHORITY OF
02:47 - 47.810 THE NEW YOU FROM
02:47 - 49.850 LOCAL TAXATION AT THE MAN FROM
02:47 - 51.340 AND COUNTY OF THE COMMONWEALTH
02:47 - 53.320 AND BURGER THAT THEY
02:47 - 56.150 HOTEL QUALIFY FOR AN EXEMPTION.
02:47 - 58.210 LOCAL REAL ESTATE TAX.
02:47 - 01.080 THE CITY AND PULLED EFFECTIVE
02:48 - 02.950 FOR THE TRIAL COURT ERRED
02:48 - 04.140 THEY CONTEND THAT THE
02:48 - 05.630 AUTHORITIES SHOULD BE REQUIRED
02:48 - 07.900 TO PAY REAL ESTATE TAXES ON
02:48 - 09.320 THAT PORTION OF THE HOTEL
02:48 - 10.340 BUSINESS WHICH IS
02:48 - 12.510 COMMERCIAL. THEY DID FIND
02:48 - 15.050 COMMERCIAL BACK AMOUNT OF
02:48 - 17.510 REVENUE GENERATED BY GAP THAT
02:48 - 20.320 DO NOT UP AND OF THEM AT THE
02:48 - 23.530 AUTHORITY AND YOU. THE CITY AND
02:48 - 24.580 SCHOOL DISTRICT ACT.
02:48 - 27.220 A COURT TO REVERSE THE CROWN
02:48 - 28.810 COURT ORDER AND DREAM AND
02:48 - 31.250 THE MATTER. HER DETERMINATION
02:48 - 33.620 OF THE PERFECTION OF THE HOTEL
02:48 - 33.900 FAIR
02:48 - 36.540 MARKET VALUE THAT CAN BE
02:48 - 38.570 SUBJECT TO GLOBAL REAL ESTATE
02:48 - 39.110 TAX.
02:48 - 46.260 >>NEW PLEASE THE COURT MY
02:48 - 47.010 CLICKER S T
02:48 - 48.380 FOR THE CITY VERY SCHOOL
02:48 - 50.320 DISTRICT AND ALSO ARGUING FOR
02:48 - 52.110 THE CITY OF ERIE. I WOULD LIKE
02:48 - 53.620 TO RESERVE 3 MINUTES OF MY
02:48 - 54.080 TIME.
02:48 - 57.000 JUST OUTSIDE MY WINDOWS
02:48 - 59.100 OR 2 STATE OF THE ART HOTELS
02:48 - 00.360 THAT SET UP ON SOME OF THE
02:49 - 02.470 MOST VALUABLE REAL ESTATE IN
02:49 - 04.000 ALL OF NORTHWEST, PENNSYLVANIA.
02:49 - 06.320 THESE HOTELS HAVE A COMBINED
02:49 - 08.160 VALUE OF OVER 16 MILLION
02:49 - 10.640 DOLLARS. THESE HOTELS WELCOME
02:49 - 11.980 GUESTS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY
02:49 - 14.360 WHOSE VISIT TO ERIE HAS NOTHING
02:49 - 15.150 TO DO WITH
02:49 - 17.720 ANY EVENT AND ANY BY THE
02:49 - 19.450 CONVENTION CENTER FOR HIM,
02:49 - 21.340 HE'S SUCCESSFUL. A FORMER
02:49 - 21.730 SAILOR.
02:49 - 23.870 >>COUNCIL THAT WAS REQUIRED
02:49 - 24.790 UNDER THE STATUTE.
02:49 - 27.300 >>IS WHAT WE'RE GOOD AT THIS.
02:49 - 29.400 >>WHAT YOU DO THAT THEN THAT
02:49 - 30.430 WOULD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH
02:49 - 31.000 ANY EVENT.
02:49 - 33.640 THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE
02:49 - 34.740 STATUTORY LANGUAGE.
02:49 - 37.670 >>THERE IS NO STATUTORY
02:49 - 38.530 LANGUAGE TO GUIDE
02:49 - 41.030 US ON WHAT AMOUNT IS REQUIRED
02:49 - 42.570 OR NOT WE ARE BASING OUR
02:49 - 44.430 FUEL ON THE FINDING IN THE
02:49 - 45.940 HOLDING IN SEPTA WHICH
02:49 - 46.960 RECOGNIZE THAT
02:49 - 48.900 WHEN AUTHORITIES GOES BEYOND
02:49 - 50.470 ITS AUTHORIZED PURPOSE AND
02:49 - 51.870 BECOMES A COMMERCIAL
02:49 - 53.630 ENTERPRISE, IT'S GONE
02:49 - 56.650 TOO FAR. IT NOW IN THIS CASE
02:49 - 59.750 THOUGH 15 PM 2399 SAYS.
02:50 - 01.970 >>THE AUTHORITY WAS CREATED TO
02:50 - 03.810 THE PUBLIC PURPOSE OF PROMOTING
02:50 - 05.880 ATTRACTING YOU
02:50 - 07.940 LEADING DEVELOPING AND
02:50 - 10.340 EXPANDING BUSINESS INDUSTRY
02:50 - 12.760 COMMERCE AND TOURISM BACK TO
02:50 - 13.970 PRETTY BROAD STATEMENT AND
02:50 - 15.200 THAT'S WHAT THE TRIAL COURT
02:50 - 16.620 SAID THEY MET THAT
02:50 - 17.780 DEFINITION.
02:50 - 19.700 >>YEAH, I WOULD AGREE IT'S
02:50 - 21.220 EXCEPTIONALLY BROAD AND I I
02:50 - 22.620 THINK THAT IT'S A MISREADING OF
02:50 - 24.730 THE STATUTE. THIS OF THE
02:50 - 26.670 CONVENTION CENTER. HE IS TO
02:50 - 28.730 MEET THOSE LOFTY GOALS IT IS
02:50 - 29.990 NOT THE PURPOSE OF THE
02:50 - 32.100 AUTHORITY TO MEET THOSE LOFTY
02:50 - 33.570 GOALS BECAUSE IF IT WERE
02:50 - 34.820 THEY MIGHT AS WELL CALL
02:50 - 36.140 THEMSELVES THE ECONOMIC
02:50 - 37.410 DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BECAUSE
02:50 - 38.960 THAT'S WHAT THEY REALLY BECOME
02:50 - 40.960 UNDER THE COURT'S RULES.
02:50 - 42.810 THEY THEY ARE NOW ALLOWED TO
02:50 - 44.810 ENGAGE IN ALL MORE COMMERCIAL
02:50 - 46.530 ENTERPRISE THAT HAS REALLY
02:50 - 47.850 NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE
02:50 - 48.970 TRADITIONALLY THINK IS A
02:50 - 51.950 CONVENTION CENTER. THEY CAN SEE
02:50 - 53.610 NOTHING IT IS THE CONVENTION
02:50 - 55.160 CENTER AND THE OTHER THE
02:50 - 56.940 THEATER BOTH PART OF A HUGE
02:50 - 57.720 CONFIDENTLY.
02:50 - 01.550 >>I WOULD SAY CONSTANTLY YOUR
02:51 - 01.810 HONOR
02:51 - 04.530 THE CONVENTION CENTER ITSELF IS
02:51 - 06.060 PROBABLY USED USED THE
02:51 - 07.350 MOST SPORADICALLY.
02:51 - 10.070 >>THE THAT THE ARENA IS USED
02:51 - 11.180 FOR HOCKEY THROUGHOUT THE
02:51 - 13.330 WINTER. I DOESN'T GET AS MUCH
02:51 - 13.850 USE IN
02:51 - 16.120 THE SUMMER, A BASEBALL FIELD
02:51 - 18.280 THAT UPMC PARK GETS MOST OF ITS
02:51 - 19.820 USE IN THE SUMMER AND THE
02:51 - 21.610 FEEDERS USE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR
02:51 - 23.330 BUT EARLY IN THE FALL AND
02:51 - 24.200 WINTER MONTHS.
02:51 - 27.840 >>YOU
02:51 - 30.350 NEED HOTEL TO ADVANCE THE
02:51 - 33.070 GENERAL PURPOSE. ALL OF THOSE
02:51 - 34.750 AND YOU YOU CAN'T.
02:51 - 37.800 RELY ON THE.
02:51 - 41.540 I'LL TELL BEING HUE MAI.
02:51 - 44.850 OF THOSE VERY OFFENDERS.
02:51 - 47.460 I MEAN YOU NEED A HOTEL AND
02:51 - 49.200 I THINK THAT IS WHAT THE CROWD
02:51 - 51.430 WERE CONCLUDED FEE. BARRY OF
02:51 - 52.910 RECOMMENDED BETTER WON'T WORK
02:51 - 55.140 WITHOUT ADJACENT HOTEL FACE.
02:51 - 00.090 FINANCIALLY. THE PORT A HOTEL
02:52 - 02.250 ONLY WITH PEOPLE WHO GO TO THE
02:52 - 03.160 CONVENTION CENTER.
02:52 - 06.470 THE REVENUE GENERATED
02:52 - 08.210 BY ANYBODY BUT CHECKED INTO THE
02:52 - 10.140 HOTEL SUPPORT ALL OF THOSE
02:52 - 12.180 ACTIVITY OF THE AUTHORITY.
02:52 - 17.080 >>3 OF
02:52 - 18.070 THOSE VENUES
02:52 - 20.090 SURVIVE JUST FINE WITHOUT THE
02:52 - 21.490 CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL.
02:52 - 24.640 ARENA THE BALLPARK
02:52 - 26.450 IN THEATER BETTER AROUND FOR
02:52 - 28.250 YEARS AND THEY DID NOT REQUIRE
02:52 - 29.320 THAT THE AUTHORITY OPEN
02:52 - 31.860 A HOTEL. WE WE AGREED THAT
02:52 - 33.660 KNOWLEDGE THAT CONNECTED HOTEL
02:52 - 35.370 TO A CONVENTION CENTER MAKES IT
02:52 - 37.000 MORE ATTRACTIVE. BUT WE
02:52 - 38.470 DISAGREE THAT IT'S AN ABSOLUTE
02:52 - 40.350 NECESSITY IN THE SAME WAY THE
02:52 - 41.550 PARKING GARAGE WOULD BE AN
02:52 - 43.570 ABSOLUTE NECESSITY TO A
02:52 - 45.660 RAILROAD AUTHORITY LIKE IT WAS
02:52 - 47.420 IN THE LANCASTER CASE.
02:52 - 50.030 >>MR. RECEIVED THE STANDARD IS
02:52 - 52.730 NOT. THE ISSUE ISN'T
02:52 - 54.300 JUST THAT THOSE ADDITIONAL
02:52 - 56.040 ROOMS HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO YOU
02:52 - 58.030 GENERATION ENHANCE THE WHOLE
02:52 - 59.500 CULTURE YES.
02:53 - 01.640 TO THE POINT THAT JUST LOVE IT
02:53 - 03.900 WAS MAKING IT IS IN FACT.
02:53 - 07.140 OF THOSE THAT MAY BE REQUIRED
02:53 - 10.500 ATTENTION STILL CONTRIBUTING TO
02:53 - 10.800 THAT.
02:53 - 15.770 HOW WOULD YOU DECIDE CREWS ARE
02:53 - 16.460 WHICH ARE IMPORTANT.
02:53 - 20.360 >>UP TO 2 SEPARATE QUESTIONS,
02:53 - 22.590 THEIR JETS. THE
02:53 - 25.080 THE AMOUNT OF OF USES FOR
02:53 - 26.670 CONVENTION CENTER RELATED
02:53 - 28.960 EVENTS IS WELL TRACK THE HOTEL
02:53 - 30.600 AND THEY WERE ABLE TO SUPPLY US
02:53 - 32.110 WITH DOWNER IT GAVE US
02:53 - 34.600 A RELIABLE INDICATION OF THE
02:53 - 37.190 THE ANNUAL USAGE. ALSO WE'RE
02:53 - 39.020 NOT CONVENTION CENTER RELATED
02:53 - 41.500 IS THIS NOT WAS 63%.
02:53 - 44.650 YES, CERTAINLY THE REFEREE WAS
02:53 - 45.790 HELPFUL TO THE CONVENTION
02:53 - 46.910 CENTER AUTHORITY IN
02:53 - 48.840 THIS IS FROM GUESTS WHO ARE
02:53 - 51.550 THERE FOR A WEDDING OR FOR SOME
02:53 - 52.750 OTHER REASON THAT HAS NOTHING
02:53 - 54.520 TO DO WITH US A CONVENTION
02:53 - 56.440 CENTER EVENT AND THAT'S NO
02:53 - 57.900 DIFFERENT THAN THE RENT THAT
02:53 - 58.980 WAS BEING PAID TO THE
02:53 - 00.970 SKYSCRAPER IN SEPTUM
02:54 - 02.560 I JUST BECAUSE IT'S HELPFUL IN
02:54 - 04.690 THE REVENUE, IT'S USABLE BY THE
02:54 - 06.290 AUTHORITY DOESN'T MEAN THAT
02:54 - 06.480 THAT
02:54 - 08.510 COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY SHOULD BE
02:54 - 10.220 IGNORED IN WHETHER THE PROPERTY
02:54 - 11.320 IS TAXED FOR HIM.
02:54 - 16.730 >>YOU MAKE THAT DISTINCTION
02:54 - 18.720 MAKES A 67 PERCENT.
02:54 - 21.840 REALITY, THE EXISTENCE OF.
02:54 - 24.500 HOTEL ROOMS WHETHER THEY'RE
02:54 - 26.110 BEING OCCUPIED FIRST THE CITY
02:54 - 28.150 CONVENTION OR NOT ACTUALLY WE
02:54 - 31.460 NEEDED TO AND AN SIMPLE TRUTH
02:54 - 32.190 IN OUR DAY.
02:54 - 34.900 >>AND I WOULD I WOULD SUBMIT TO
02:54 - 37.000 YOU THAT IF IF THIS IS OUR
02:54 - 39.020 COURT WERE TO READ THE STATUTE,
02:54 - 40.690 THE SAME WAY AS WELL AS THE
02:54 - 42.350 TRIAL COURT AND WE'RE DEAD IN
02:54 - 44.270 THE WATER. IF THE CONVENTION
02:54 - 46.270 CENTER AUTHORITY IS IN THE
02:54 - 48.790 BUSINESS OF BROADLY PROMOTING
02:54 - 50.380 ALL OF THOSE LOFTY GOALS
02:54 - 52.330 THEN THEY CAN OPEN WHATEVER
02:54 - 53.630 THEY WANT IT DOESN'T COST OF
02:54 - 55.060 EVEN A HOTEL THEY CAN OPEN A
02:54 - 57.050 CASINO, YOU CAN OPEN A WATER
02:54 - 58.300 PARK. THEY CAN OPEN A
02:54 - 59.740 RESTAURANT AND ALL OF THOSE WHO
02:54 - 01.060 BEAT TENSIONS CENTERS.
02:55 - 03.270 IF WE FOLLOW THE READING OF THE
02:55 - 04.760 TRIAL COURT IN THIS MATTER IT
02:55 - 05.800 WAS JUST SUBMIT TO YOU THAT
02:55 - 06.340 THAT IS AN
02:55 - 08.690 OVERLY BROAD IN AN REASONABLE
02:55 - 10.270 READING OF WHAT A CONVENTION
02:55 - 13.090 CENTER TRULY THIS. THE D.
02:55 - 15.470 THE FACT THAT THEY COULD DO
02:55 - 16.920 THIS THAT THEY'RE PERMITTED TO
02:55 - 18.580 OPEN A HOTEL IN AND BUILD IT
02:55 - 18.760 AND
02:55 - 20.960 OWN IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN
02:55 - 22.160 THAT IT SHOULD BE COMPLETELY
02:55 - 24.770 TAX FREE. I GET IS THE
02:55 - 27.240 COMMERCIAL ENTITY. THIS IS
02:55 - 28.910 COMPETING IN THE MARKET WITH
02:55 - 30.580 ALL OF THE OTHER HOTELS IN ERIE
02:55 - 32.740 COUNTY TO HIM. WELL MICHAEL A
02:55 - 35.020 BASED ON ITS. IT'S OCCUPIED SEE
02:55 - 37.110 ITS RATES AND IT SUITS
02:55 - 39.010 HIM ON SOME OF THE MOST DYNAMO
02:55 - 40.570 WILL STATE THAT WE HELP YOU
02:55 - 42.020 KNOW OUR OUR COUNTY AND YOU
02:55 - 43.180 CONTRAST THAT WITH
02:55 - 45.370 FOR EXAMPLE WHAT WAS GOING ON
02:55 - 46.770 IN THE DELAWARE COUNTY CHASE
02:55 - 48.610 WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT OF
02:55 - 49.370 LAND AROUND THE
02:55 - 52.050 LAND SO THAT WAS UNUSABLE IN
02:55 - 53.620 THE IN THE SUPREME COURT NOTED.
02:55 - 55.510 I HAVE NO COMMERCIAL VALUE.
02:55 - 57.220 IT WAS ZONE FOR NOTHING THAT
02:55 - 58.760 WOULD PRODUCE COMMERCIAL VALUE
02:55 - 00.580 SO IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE WHY THAT
02:56 - 00.830 WOULD BE
02:56 - 03.180 TAX EXEMPT AND WHY IT WAS
02:56 - 04.560 NECESSARY FOR POSSIBLE
02:56 - 06.940 EXPANSION OF THAT LANDFILL AND
02:56 - 08.270 IN THE UNDERSTAND WHY
02:56 - 10.000 THE COURT FOUND THE WAY THEY
02:56 - 11.570 DIDN'T READ THE RED INK A
02:56 - 12.820 SINKHOLE IN THE MIXED USE
02:56 - 15.230 HOUSING. THAT WAS YOUR GOAL TO
02:56 - 17.530 BE THE NECESSITY TO HAVE LOW
02:56 - 19.650 INCOME HOUSING WITH MARKET RENT
02:56 - 21.920 HOUSING TO PREVENT THE SCOURGE
02:56 - 24.190 OF SLOWS TO USE TO WRITE A
02:56 - 26.750 SOCIETAL WRONG WHO CAN SAY THE
02:56 - 28.990 SAME THING ABOUT A CONVENTION
02:56 - 30.940 CENTER. WE UNDERSTAND THAT
02:56 - 31.820 THEY'RE IMPORTANT
02:56 - 33.770 FOR COMMUNITIES. BUT THEY'RE
02:56 - 35.250 INHERENTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE
02:56 - 36.240 CONS COUNTY
02:56 - 37.160 COUNCIL LUCY.
02:56 - 39.310 >>THIS IS IT LIKE BEING TAXES
02:56 - 41.060 FROM THE OTHER THEN USE THAT
02:56 - 43.220 FEAR YOU REENA AND THE BALL
02:56 - 43.580 HARD.
02:56 - 44.910 >>IT IS NOT YOUR.
02:56 - 47.720 AND WE HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT
02:56 - 49.080 THESE ARE THESE ARE
02:56 - 50.420 THESE ARE BUSINESSES THAT
02:56 - 52.200 PRIVATE ENTERPRISE DOESN'T WANT
02:56 - 54.230 TO BUILD. THERE'S NOT A RUSH TO
02:56 - 55.760 BUILD CONVENTION CENTERS,
02:56 - 58.150 WE'RE REINAS OR BALL PARKS WERE
02:56 - 59.860 THEATERS BY BY THE PRIVATE.
02:57 - 01.740 IN THE STREET, THEY KNOW THOSE
02:57 - 03.360 ARE MONEY LOSERS. THAT'S WHY WE
02:57 - 04.440 KNOW THAT'S WHY THEIR OWN
02:57 - 06.940 PUBLICLY FUNDED. BUT HOTELS ARE
02:57 - 08.770 MUCH DIFFERENT. THERE IS THERE
02:57 - 10.990 ARE MANY PRIVATE HOTELIERS IN
02:57 - 12.690 ERIE COUNTY AND THEY CONTINUE
02:57 - 14.410 TO COME TO THE RECOUNT IN ALL
02:57 - 15.420 OVER THE COMMONWEALTH.
02:57 - 17.640 SO WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE
02:57 - 19.250 ARENA FOR EXAMPLE NOT PAYING
02:57 - 21.080 REAL ESTATE TAX WE UNDERSTAND
02:57 - 23.230 THAT SERVES A COMMUNITY NEEDS
02:57 - 24.520 AND THAT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO
02:57 - 25.460 PAY REAL
02:57 - 28.080 ESTATE TAX BUT THE HOTEL THIS
02:57 - 29.540 THAT IS GENERATING SO MUCH
02:57 - 31.380 REVENUE FOR GUESTS THAT HAVE
02:57 - 32.300 NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
02:57 - 33.660 CONVENTION CENTER EVENT
02:57 - 35.860 SEEMS WHOLLY DIFFERENT AND IT
02:57 - 37.930 SAYS THIS CRISIS HAS IS
02:57 - 40.070 COMPLETELY UNFAIR THEY WOULD BE
02:57 - 42.230 ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PAY NO TAX.
02:57 - 44.340 THIS ISN'T LIKE ALERT WHERE
02:57 - 46.370 IT'S 10 YEARS OR FOR SOME A LOT
02:57 - 47.620 OF TIME THIS IS FOREVER.
02:57 - 50.440 AND WE CAN EXCEPT THAT THE
02:57 - 52.660 LEGISLATURE EVEN CONTEMPLATED
02:57 - 53.980 THAT WHEN THEY ADDED THE WORD
02:57 - 56.220 HOTEL TO OKAY WHAT.
02:57 - 00.520 THE COURT AGREED.
02:58 - 02.330 >>AFTER THEM
02:58 - 03.670 AND I ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE
02:58 - 04.580 CONVENTION CENTER
02:58 - 07.480 >>WE ARE YOUR HONOR THAT WOULD
02:58 - 11.220 BE FOUND AT 16 PTS 2399.
02:58 - 13.550 52 AT ALL.
02:58 - 16.110 >>FIRST THING, BUT CROWDS.
02:58 - 17.850 >>COURT MAY GRANT THAT HOW HOW
02:58 - 19.050 SHOULD WE HOW DO YOU WANT.
02:58 - 22.580 OPERATIVE PROVISIONS.
02:58 - 24.440 >>WHO WE WOULD ASK THIS COURT
02:58 - 25.600 TO RE READ THAT THE 2
02:58 - 27.510 PROVISIONS IN QUESTION THE TO
02:58 - 29.320 THE FIRST SECTION DISCUSSES THE
02:58 - 30.480 LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS AND
02:58 - 32.570 PURPOSE TO BE THAT THE PURPOSE
02:58 - 33.750 OF THE CONVENTION CENTER
02:58 - 36.340 THAT STRUCTURE AND TO PROMOTE
02:58 - 37.830 THOSE SCHOOLS, NOT THAT THE
02:58 - 38.760 U.S. ALREADY HAS
02:58 - 41.500 A WHOLE IS IT IS GIVEN THAT
02:58 - 43.070 PURPOSE. WE THINK THAT'S A HUGE
02:58 - 45.360 DISTINCTION. THE AUTHORITY THIS
02:58 - 46.710 THIS NINE-MEMBER PANEL
02:58 - 48.620 SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET INTO
02:58 - 50.770 WHATEVER BUSINESS IT FEELS AND
02:58 - 51.900 GENERATE REVENUE
02:58 - 55.060 AND BENEFIT TOURISM OR BUSINESS
02:58 - 56.240 FOR INDUSTRY OR ANY ONE OF
02:58 - 57.720 THOSE FOREIGN SUBJECTS
02:58 - 59.350 WHICH BY THE WAY I TRIED TO
02:58 - 00.300 THINK OF A BUILDING THAT
02:59 - 02.050 DOESN'T TOUCH ON ONE OF THOSE 4
02:59 - 03.270 THINGS AND I CAN'T COME UP WITH
02:59 - 05.120 ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T TOUCH ON
02:59 - 06.910 AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE THINGS SO
02:59 - 09.020 THAT SPEAKS TO THE LIMITLESS
02:59 - 10.410 THIS OF THE COURT'S REVIEW.
02:59 - 12.220 THIS IS A NEW VERSION OR THE
02:59 - 12.740 5TH PICK.
02:59 - 14.660 >>CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC
02:59 - 15.860 BECAUSE IT DOES INCLUDE
02:59 - 19.950 A CHILLY. HOTEL MEETING ROOM,
02:59 - 20.320 WHAT.
02:59 - 22.070 >>SPECIFIC LANGUAGE.
02:59 - 25.430 YES, THAT'S THAT'S THIS IS
02:59 - 25.710 GOING TO
02:59 - 28.010 USE THEM. YES, THE SECONDS AND
02:59 - 29.590 SO SO WE WE ASK YOU TO READ
02:59 - 31.490 THAT INTO THE PURPOSE OF WHAT I
02:59 - 33.620 JUST DESCRIBED THAT SECTION 0.5
02:59 - 35.990 2 SECTION 0.5 3 IS THE
02:59 - 37.360 DEFINITION SECTION THAT WE
02:59 - 37.820 BELIEVE THE
02:59 - 39.870 COURT MISINTERPRETED. WE THINK
02:59 - 42.420 THAT CONVENTION FACILITIES ARE
02:59 - 44.450 ALL OF THE ANCILLARY THINGS
02:59 - 46.380 THAT ARE NECESSARY INCIDENTAL
02:59 - 48.200 TO A CONVENTION CENTER TO THE
02:59 - 50.090 ACTUAL THEN THE BALLPARK, THE
02:59 - 51.640 ARENA, THE CONVENTION CENTER.
02:59 - 53.060 THESE ARE THINGS THAT WHAT
02:59 - 54.970 RANGE FROM JUST SIMPLE THINGS
02:59 - 56.090 LIKE LOCKER ROOMS FOR THE
02:59 - 56.800 PLAYERS TO GET
02:59 - 59.280 DRESSED AND 2 WHOLE WAYS
03:00 - 03.440 PRACTICE AREAS TRAINING AREAS
03:00 - 04.730 ACCESS WAYS
03:00 - 08.180 WE BECAUSE BECAUSE IN FACT IT
03:00 - 09.640 IS SO BROAD AND IT DOES
03:00 - 10.640 INCLUDE HOTELS.
03:00 - 12.360 >>THE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE
03:00 - 13.960 TAKEN UP BEFORE THE GENERAL
03:00 - 15.510 ASSEMBLY AND NOT THE COURT.
03:00 - 18.110 >>WE THINK THIS IS SOMETHING
03:00 - 19.660 THAT SHOULD AND CAN BE SOLVED
03:00 - 20.920 BY THE COURTS. WE THINK IT'S A
03:00 - 22.590 MISINTERPRETATION OF THE
03:00 - 24.630 STATUE. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE
03:00 - 26.140 LEGISLATIVE INTERVENTION.
03:00 - 28.790 THE THE USE OF THE WORD HOTEL
03:00 - 29.280 IN THAT.
03:00 - 32.800 WAS WELL ESTABLISHED IN A
03:00 - 34.190 PRIOR CASE, IT WAS TO
03:00 - 36.030 SATISFY LONG LAWYERS WHO ARE
03:00 - 37.540 CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER THEY
03:00 - 39.010 COULD USE OUR MONEY TO BUILD A
03:00 - 41.010 HOTEL. IT WAS PUT IN THERE TO
03:00 - 42.470 CREATE A WHOLE NEW CLASS OF
03:00 - 44.300 CONVENTION CENTS THE LOWER
03:00 - 45.490 COURT IN THIS MATTER FOUND IN
03:00 - 47.350 THE HOTEL IS BY ITSELF A
03:00 - 49.180 CONVENTION CENTER AND BY THAT
03:00 - 50.930 LOGIC YOU CAN SAY THE SAME OF A
03:00 - 52.680 RESTAURANT, A CASINO,
03:00 - 54.330 A WATER PARK AND ALL THE OTHER
03:00 - 56.240 EXAMPLES THAT GIVES IN
03:00 - 59.460 THE KELLY KELLY HAS DISMISSED
03:00 - 00.620 THAT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE
03:01 - 02.350 ARGUMENT. IT'S LIKE IT'S THE
03:01 - 04.310 LOGICAL READING OF THIS COURT'S
03:01 - 04.850 FIND IT
03:01 - 06.430 AND I SEE THAT MY TIME HAS
03:01 - 08.260 EXPIRED SO I WILL HOLD THE REST
03:01 - 09.090 IN RESERVATIONS.
03:01 - 15.800 >>ALL RIGHT MISTER DELANEY.
03:01 - 19.710 AND IF
03:01 - 20.100 YOU'RE ON.
03:01 - 22.050 >>AND POLICE IN PORTLAND
03:01 - 26.560 PATRICK SERVE 40 AND THE
03:01 - 29.390 QUESTION IS THIS. MISTER
03:01 - 29.940 RESCUE.
03:01 - 33.920 WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE.
03:01 - 35.250 THIS IS A MATTER A
03:01 - 37.210 STATUTORY INTERPRETATION.
03:01 - 40.650 THIS IS ABOUT IF THESE TAXING
03:01 - 41.280 BODIES.
03:01 - 44.490 IS IT WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL
03:01 - 46.060 OF THE PURPOSE THAT THE
03:01 - 47.860 LEGISLATURE HAS ESTABLISHED.
03:01 - 49.880 THEY SHOULD GO BACK TO GENERAL
03:01 - 51.670 ASSEMBLY AND CHANGE THE LAW.
03:01 - 54.480 SENATOR CORY
03:01 - 57.110 UNDER ITS IN A LITTLE STATUE
03:01 - 59.470 WHICH IS A 3RD CLASS COUNTY
03:01 - 01.480 CONVENTION CENTER AUTHORITIES.
03:02 - 04.110 ALTERNATIVE PROVISIONS.
03:02 - 07.340 IT'S TO BE A LONG TITLE.
03:02 - 12.170 WAS HE REALLY INTENDED TO ALL.
03:02 - 17.110 PROMOTION OF THE
03:02 - 18.380 BUSINESS
03:02 - 21.500 INDUSTRY OF HOURS IN DURATION
03:02 - 23.460 IN ANY PARTICULAR SITE THAT'S
03:02 - 25.610 DEVELOPING SUCH A CONVENTION
03:02 - 28.960 CENTER AS WELL. ELIMINATING
03:02 - 31.300 BLIGHTED AREAS. ADDRESS HE
03:02 - 32.930 TALKED ABOUT OUT OF HIS WINDOW
03:02 - 33.810 HERE TOO.
03:02 - 35.520 THANK YOU KNOW THIS IS HOTELS
03:02 - 37.110 IN BEAT OUT THE WINDOW, THERE.
03:02 - 39.300 FOR
03:02 - 41.960 THOSE DEVELOP. AND SPORTING
03:02 - 44.280 PAUL 500 CHARACTERIZED AS A
03:02 - 46.910 PLAY AREA. WE ELIMINATED
03:02 - 49.770 A CLOSED 3 THAT WAS IN
03:02 - 51.980 EXISTENCE FOR ONE, HERE'S WHERE
03:02 - 53.300 THEY ALL.
03:02 - 57.820 AREA IN THAT AREA TO OUR HOTEL
03:02 - 00.650 PARKING REFORM IT. SO WE HAVE
03:03 - 01.850 BEEN CARRIED OUT.
03:03 - 04.510 THE PURPOSES THAT WERE
03:03 - 06.860 SPECIFICALLY SAID OR IN THIS
03:03 - 09.330 STATUTE AS WE HAVE ALL OF THESE
03:03 - 11.430 PROPERTIES. THE
03:03 - 13.210 ARGUMENT THAT THE SHOW
03:03 - 15.890 A TAXING BODIES ARE A SYRIAN
03:03 - 18.680 AIR. BUT FOR SOME REASON FOR
03:03 - 20.590 FIRST IN SOME WAY THEY SHOULD
03:03 - 22.490 BE PERMITTED TO TELL US.
03:03 - 25.160 THEY SAW A PARTICULAR TYPE OF
03:03 - 27.570 USAGE OF THE HOTEL THAT IS.
03:03 - 30.700 CREWS WHO ARE ATTENDING AND
03:03 - 31.730 ASIANS CENTER.
03:03 - 34.830 AND THE OTHERS AND I SHOULD
03:03 - 35.660 CLARIFY THAT.
03:03 - 40.500 THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAX
03:03 - 43.140 THE HOTELS BASED ON A CRUISE
03:03 - 44.640 WHO ARE NOT ATTENDING
03:03 - 47.880 IN THIS A CONVENTION CENTER TO
03:03 - 49.200 WHICH THEY ARE ATTACHED.
03:03 - 51.810 THEY WOULD TELL YOU THAT
03:03 - 54.460 IF SOMEONE GOES TO A HOTEL
03:03 - 55.260 STAYS AND ONE
03:03 - 57.890 OF THEM THOSE
03:03 - 00.320 2 EVENTS AND ONE OF THE OLD
03:04 - 02.110 CONVENTION CENTER AND IAN SUCH
03:04 - 05.310 AS CORNER HERE AND YOU SEE ALL
03:04 - 06.790 OVER. AND THAT
03:04 - 09.200 DOESN'T HELP AS AS
03:04 - 11.870 UNINTENDED
03:04 - 14.020 I CERTAINLY INTEND TO USE A
03:04 - 15.230 PIECE OF TELLS OF THE
03:04 - 17.320 LEGISLATION THAT'S JUST RULE
03:04 - 20.130 AND STATISTICS THAT THE PORT IS
03:04 - 21.860 IN THE LOWER COURT USED IN
03:04 - 24.320 DECIDING. HOW MUCH USE FOR LATE
03:04 - 25.270 TO CONVENTION
03:04 - 27.450 CENTER ACTIVITIES IN ADDITION
03:04 - 30.480 TO ALL THOSE OTHER BINS ALL OF
03:04 - 33.450 IT THAT'S WHY. THAT'S WELCOME
03:04 - 36.290 US THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BODIES
03:04 - 37.860 ARE I'VE BEEN WAITING HERE.
03:04 - 39.620 IT'S REALLY NOT WORTH IT.
03:04 - 43.140 IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE AND NO.
03:04 - 46.900 WELL THE INTENT OF HATRED IS
03:04 - 48.070 SCHOOL THEY COME FROM ALL OF
03:04 - 50.120 THESE HOTELS I MEAN ARE THEY
03:04 - 51.130 GOING TO THE BAYFRONT
03:04 - 52.960 CONVENTION CENTER MIGHT BE ABLE
03:04 - 54.620 TO TRACK THAT THEY DO
03:04 - 56.740 THEY SIDE ARE THEY ARE THEY
03:04 - 58.010 HERE TO VISIT SOMEONE WHO
03:04 - 00.130 SHOULD BE LET IN THE N C AND
03:05 - 01.510 THEN THEY DECIDE TO TAKE IN
03:05 - 03.500 SOMETHING. AND THE WARNER
03:05 - 05.160 THEATER ISN'T BAD. WE
03:05 - 08.230 DO WHAT THE TAXING AUTHORITIES
03:05 - 08.760 FOR ALL.
03:05 - 13.270 AND PROCREATE AND NON TAXABLE
03:05 - 13.620 USE
03:05 - 16.430 >>WELL, THOUGH YOU REALLY IT
03:05 - 18.340 COULD BE CONFUSING AND
03:05 - 19.740 YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT BUT I'M
03:05 - 21.410 NOT IN THAT REGARD, I'M NOT
03:05 - 23.120 SURE THAT'S WHAT THE FATHER.
03:05 - 26.360 BUT YOU A DRAFT THAT THOUGH I
03:05 - 27.150 MEAN THIS IS
03:05 - 29.710 AND WE WE SEE THAT ALL THE TIME
03:05 - 30.630 ALL PRO
03:05 - 35.950 WHO ARE TRYING TO TAKE
03:05 - 37.240 ADVANTAGE OF THE HUBCAP.
03:05 - 41.090 NOW LEE. THEY'RE
03:05 - 44.220 REQUIRED TO PAY TAXES ON THAT
03:05 - 45.240 PART OF THEIR RELIEF
03:05 - 47.480 AID THEM. YOU KNOW THAT IS USED
03:05 - 48.970 FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES, A MAP
03:05 - 50.700 WHAT HAPPENED THE FACT THAT
03:05 - 51.020 THEY WERE
03:05 - 53.390 RENTING OUT. BROWN POR FAITH
03:05 - 55.580 RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT, THEM I
03:05 - 56.350 HAD A GREAT ACT.
03:05 - 01.300 THE SECOND CASE IT'S
03:06 - 03.020 INSTRUCTIVE HERE AND
03:06 - 06.290 THE OUTCOME. ALL OF COURSE IS
03:06 - 06.850 ONE THAT.
03:06 - 11.860 REQUIRED SET TO PAY TAX ON THAT
03:06 - 13.790 A PORTION OF THE BUILDING WHERE
03:06 - 16.330 THEY CREDIT INTO A PRIVATE 3RD
03:06 - 18.970 PARTY. AND IT WAS BECAUSE.
03:06 - 20.460 ALL OF THE
03:06 - 23.220 ENABLING STATUE THAT ALLOWED
03:06 - 24.360 SEPTA TO OPERATE.
03:06 - 27.050 IT'S SINCE BEEN SEPARATING THE
03:06 - 28.100 DECISION WILL STEP IN THE
03:06 - 29.640 SUPREME COURT MADE IT CLEAR.
03:06 - 31.670 THIS IS A MATTER OF STATUTORY
03:06 - 34.030 INTERPRETATION AND THEY LOOK TO
03:06 - 35.890 BE ENABLING STATUTE AND THEY
03:06 - 39.240 SAID WELL THE PURPOSE SEPTA IS
03:06 - 41.300 INTENDED TO CARRY OUT. US TO
03:06 - 43.400 CLARIFY THE LEGISLATURE IS THE
03:06 - 45.290 CREATION OF A MASS TRANSIT
03:06 - 46.660 SYSTEM WITHIN A PARTICULAR
03:06 - 48.460 REGION. AND YOU KNOW THEY'RE
03:06 - 49.320 PERMITTED TO BUILD
03:06 - 51.040 THE BUILDING. THEIR
03:06 - 54.820 PURPOSE IS THE IDEA OF BECOMING
03:06 - 56.690 A LANDLORD PRIVATE ART.
03:07 - 00.910 TRULY THE
03:07 - 04.240 DISTINCTION HERE IN OUR CASE IS
03:07 - 06.090 OUR BROAD LEGISLATIVE.
03:07 - 10.160 THAT'S THE ENABLING ACT HERE.
03:07 - 12.650 TALKS ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE
03:07 - 14.300 DEVELOPMENT OF HOTELS.
03:07 - 19.230 THE I CAN TELL YOU THAT THOSE
03:07 - 21.060 HOTELS WILL A
03:07 - 22.240 BLIGHTED AREAS
03:07 - 26.310 IS THOSE INDUSTRY COMMERCE AND
03:07 - 28.870 TOURISM AND AND WILL START
03:07 - 30.710 RESTING PLACE THE ART AND THIS
03:07 - 32.680 IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE. THE
03:07 - 35.230 LEGISLATURE'S PROVIDED THIS OR
03:07 - 38.540 IF AN ISSUE FOR US. I ALSO WANT
03:07 - 39.500 TO HEAR ABOUT WE'RE HERE.
03:07 - 42.590 2 HOTELS THAT A CONVENTION
03:07 - 46.060 CENTER OWNS OPERATES IN
03:07 - 47.890 CONJUNCTION WITH IN SOME OTHER
03:07 - 48.310 OTHER
03:07 - 50.820 THAN THIS ALL OF WHICH BILLS
03:07 - 53.730 LEIGH A BROADER
03:07 - 55.860 PURPOSE IS A 3RD BALL.
03:07 - 58.540 INVENTION CENTER AUTHORITY
03:07 - 00.370 UNDER THE ALTERNATIVE VISIONS.
03:08 - 05.150 WE THINK THAT TO.
03:08 - 07.750 SEPTA IS
03:08 - 11.070 A CASE THAT LOOKS TO BE
03:08 - 11.910 AUTHORIZED
03:08 - 14.500 PURPOSES UNDER THE UNDER THE
03:08 - 16.200 STATUTE WHEN YOU LOOK TO BE
03:08 - 17.960 AUTHORIZED PURPOSES OF THIS
03:08 - 18.570 STATUTE.
03:08 - 35.190 THE CASE LAW THE OTHER CASE LAW
03:08 - 38.530 HAS SIDESTEPPED IT. WELL IT.
03:08 - 40.090 STILL SUPPORT.
03:08 - 45.200 WHETHER IT'S LEGAL OR DECIDED
03:08 - 47.230 BY THE AND SO THE SCREAM 4.
03:08 - 50.520 THE HIKER 44 TO FACE.
03:08 - 53.690 THE READING CASE.
03:08 - 57.890 WE'RE THE THE CITY OF ALL JUST
03:08 - 59.600 A CASE THAT THIS COURT DECIDED
03:08 - 02.570 TO LAST AND THE LAST 4 YEARS
03:09 - 03.920 THOSE OTHER 2 CASES.
03:09 - 07.400 THEY'RE INSTRUCTIVE BECAUSE
03:09 - 09.140 THIS COURT HAS FOUND THAT
03:09 - 13.150 A STRUCTURE OR IS THAT TOO MANY
03:09 - 17.070 FOR THE OPERATION ALSO
03:09 - 19.240 STRUCTURE. FEELS
03:09 - 20.810 THE AUTHORIZED PURPOSE
03:09 - 22.280 LEGISLATIVE PURPOSE THAT'S
03:09 - 24.350 BIGGER THAN ELVIS. THE FACT
03:09 - 27.060 THAT IT MAY BE USED BY PEOPLE
03:09 - 27.360 WHO.
03:09 - 30.390 ENGAGED IN ALL THEIR SHOPPING
03:09 - 32.210 IN A IN A PARTICULAR
03:09 - 32.890 NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:09 - 37.300 WELL USING A TRANSIT A MOBILE
03:09 - 40.210 TRANSIT. A BUILDING. NEXT TO A
03:09 - 42.040 PARKING RAMP. DOES IT MATTER.
03:09 - 44.940 ALL I THINK THAT THAT TO
03:09 - 47.190 IN THE CASE ARE READY TO THIS
03:09 - 48.280 COURT DECIDED THAT
03:09 - 51.460 EVEN THOUGH ONLY 20% OF A
03:09 - 52.990 DEVELOPMENT WAS HUGE FOR LOW
03:09 - 57.280 THE OTHER ALL 80% WILL BE STILL
03:09 - 58.660 TAX AND YOU BECAUSE THE
03:09 - 00.530 AUTHORITY, THOSE LIMITS
03:10 - 02.920 AUTHORIZED PURPOSE AND THE CITY
03:10 - 03.780 OF LANCASTER.
03:10 - 08.800 I THINK THIS COURT TO FORCE THE
03:10 - 09.490 OPINION OF THE
03:10 - 11.600 LOWER COURTS AND EVEN IF ONLY
03:10 - 13.470 10% OF PEOPLE ARE BEING
03:10 - 16.590 ARRAIGNED FOR USING THE ALL THE
03:10 - 19.050 INTERMODAL CENTER AND THAT FEEL
03:10 - 19.890 THEY
03:10 - 27.350 SO FOR ALL ALL THOSE REASONS
03:10 - 30.280 CLEAR AND SIMPLE READING
03:10 - 32.690 OF THE ENABLING STATUE IN THIS
03:10 - 35.230 CASE. BOTH THE DEFINITIONS
03:10 - 35.370 THAT.
03:10 - 39.330 FINISH. MENTION CENTER
03:10 - 40.910 FACILITIES THAT INCLUDES A
03:10 - 43.130 HOTEL AND THE
03:10 - 46.090 THE PURPOSES OF DEVELOPMENT AND
03:10 - 46.850 OPERATION
03:10 - 48.970 AND MANAGEMENT CONVENTION
03:10 - 50.670 CENTER FACILITIES TO DO AWAY
03:10 - 53.230 WITH PLAYED PROPERTY. ADDITION
03:10 - 55.820 TO BOTH BUSINESS. INDUSTRY
03:10 - 57.940 VOTERS IN PRISON FOR ALL OF
03:10 - 00.040 THOSE REASONS LOWER COURTS.
03:11 - 01.220 IT SHOULD BE.
03:11 - 05.990 AND IT'S A GOOD PORTION OF THE
03:11 - 11.850 >>ARGUING
03:11 - 15.390 BOTH IMMUNITY AN EXEMPTION.
03:11 - 18.760 >>JUDGE I DON'T BELIEVE
03:11 - 20.200 IN IT. WE MAYBE YOU
03:11 - 22.090 CAN GET 2 EXEMPTION LOGO.
03:11 - 23.700 WE BELIEVE WORDS AND THERE IS A
03:11 - 24.940 SPECIFIC SECTION
03:11 - 25.600 OF THAT.
03:11 - 27.410 >>ENABLING STATUTE THAT THE
03:11 - 28.980 PLAYERS AND WHERE TO PUT THE
03:11 - 31.870 IMMUNITY ISSUE OR WHICH THE
03:11 - 33.900 TAXPAYING THAT ACTUALLY BOUGHT
03:11 - 34.910 THE SHOW FOR IT.
03:11 - 37.980 I THINK THAT ESTABLISHES WHY
03:11 - 38.180 THESE
03:11 - 43.650 >>ANYONE
03:11 - 47.940 WE ARE
03:11 - 49.720 HERE NOW I DON'T.
03:11 - 55.050 >>A COUPLE OF POINTS TODAY DUE
03:11 - 57.660 TO REBUT TURNING TO LINK MCCAIN
03:11 - 59.400 DID THAT THE AUTHORITIES
03:11 - 01.170 IN SEPTA IT'S NOT HAVE THE
03:12 - 02.590 ABILITY TO BECOME A COMMERCIAL
03:12 - 04.030 LANDLORD AND WITH THEIR
03:12 - 05.960 NEIGHBORING STATUTE. I RESPECT
03:12 - 07.610 I THINK THAT IS AN INCORRECT
03:12 - 09.320 AND THEY CLEARLY DID HAVE THE
03:12 - 11.490 STATUTORY AUTHORITY TO BE A
03:12 - 12.980 COMMERCIAL LANDLORD FOR THE
03:12 - 15.010 STATED PURPOSE OF RAISING
03:12 - 16.750 ADDITIONAL REVENUES SEPTA
03:12 - 18.690 RECOGNIZE THAT THE COURTS HAVE
03:12 - 20.010 TO RECOGNIZE THAT SAID
03:12 - 21.760 THAT'S FINE YOU CAN BE
03:12 - 22.890 COMMERCIAL LAND WHERE YOU'RE
03:12 - 24.530 ALLOWED TO BE THAT IT'S PART OF
03:12 - 26.450 YOUR PURPOSE, IT'S PART
03:12 - 27.760 OF WHAT WAS STATED IN YOUR
03:12 - 28.960 NEIGHBORING LEGISLATION.
03:12 - 30.830 BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU WILL
03:12 - 32.780 PAY TAX ON THE PART THAT YOU'RE
03:12 - 34.150 RENTING OUT AS A COMMERCIAL
03:12 - 36.170 LANDLORD AND WE BELIEVE THAT'S
03:12 - 38.260 NOT ONLY ANALOGOUS IN TERMS OF
03:12 - 40.070 THE ABILITY TO TO CARVE OUT
03:12 - 41.830 A PERCENTAGE BUT READING A
03:12 - 44.080 HOTEL ROOM WHETHER FOR A NIGHT
03:12 - 46.020 WEEKEND WERE MONTHS IS STILL
03:12 - 47.430 RANKED TEAM THE REAL ESTATE IN
03:12 - 49.190 FOR THAT REASON HOTELS ARE
03:12 - 52.230 ROUTINELY. ASSESSED BASED UPON
03:12 - 54.500 OCCUPANCY LEVELS ALL THEY HAVE
03:12 - 55.800 TO BACK OUT THINGS LIKE THE
03:12 - 56.930 BENDS IN THE FURNITURE AND
03:12 - 58.620 APPRAISERS DO THAT ALL THE TIME
03:12 - 00.170 THROUGHOUT THIS COMMONWEALTH TO
03:13 - 01.640 ARRIVE AT A FAIR MARKET VALUE
03:13 - 03.140 FOR ASSESSMENT PURPOSES.
03:13 - 04.470 BUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE TALKING
03:13 - 05.950 ABOUT RENTALS FOR A NIGHT
03:13 - 08.290 VERSUS PERHAPS A 5 YEAR LEASE
03:13 - 10.720 ACEPTA CASE. IT'S REALLY NOT
03:13 - 14.850 REAL DISTINCTION. I COUNCIL IN
03:13 - 16.750 THAT CASE THE COURT DID TODAY.
03:13 - 17.400 >>THAT.
03:13 - 20.210 WHEN THEY WENT OUTSIDE OF THEIR
03:13 - 21.810 AUTHORITY WHICH WAS TO DEVELOP
03:13 - 23.320 A TRANSPORTATION FOR THEM TO
03:13 - 24.530 OPERATE ON HIM.
03:13 - 25.870 >>THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DO IT,
03:13 - 27.040 BUT THEY WOULD BE PACK.
03:13 - 29.870 BUT HERE YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT
03:13 - 32.270 THAT'S WHAT WHEN A TYPICALLY
03:13 - 33.820 ENUMERATED IN PERMITTED.
03:13 - 36.590 AS A CONVENTION CENTER
03:13 - 37.290 AUTHORITY.
03:13 - 39.920 BUT THEY HAVE A HEATED THE
03:13 - 41.970 SCOPE OF THAT AUTHORITY AND
03:13 - 43.190 THEN THEY SHOULD BE TECH.
03:13 - 45.180 IT'S VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT
03:13 - 46.690 IS SOBER HIGH AT THE TRIAL
03:13 - 48.010 COURT FOUND TO SAY THAT IT'S
03:13 - 49.710 OUTSIDE BOTH
03:13 - 51.910 OF THEM, INCREASING TOURISM
03:13 - 54.090 BUSINESS COMMERCE AND INDUSTRY
03:13 - 55.550 IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
03:13 - 58.100 >>AND I WOULD GET BACK TO THE
03:13 - 00.080 STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION RULES
03:14 - 01.700 THAT WE DON'T WANT TO END UP
03:14 - 01.960 WITH AN
03:14 - 04.380 ABSURD RESULT. AND IF WE READ
03:14 - 06.370 SO BROADLY AS THE TRIAL FOR
03:14 - 08.240 YOU. WE DO AND IT WAS AN ABSURD
03:14 - 09.560 RESULT BECAUSE THEY REALLY
03:14 - 11.700 CAN'T GET INTO ANY BUSINESS
03:14 - 13.150 AND I UNDERSTAND THEY DON'T
03:14 - 14.310 WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT
03:14 - 15.620 SLIPPERY SLOPE ARGUMENT.
03:14 - 17.400 I THINK IT'S ONE OF THEM
03:14 - 18.320 AND BEFORE.
03:14 - 20.270 >>BEFORE WE EVEN GET INTO THOSE
03:14 - 22.360 CANONS OF THE OF HER RIGHT NOW
03:14 - 23.780 THE COURTS HAVE TO FIND AN
03:14 - 26.140 AMBIGUITY AND THE I THINK WHAT
03:14 - 27.350 YOU'RE HEARING FROM THE JUDGES
03:14 - 29.110 ON THIS. A PANEL IS THAT WE'RE
03:14 - 31.050 HAVING DIFFICULTY THE FINDING
03:14 - 31.960 ANY AMBIGUITY.
03:14 - 36.990 >>THE YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO
03:14 - 38.610 GET TO AND YOU DO IT IF YOU.
03:14 - 41.120 >>WE'RE GOING TO INVOKE YOUR
03:14 - 42.430 ARGUMENT THAT IT WOULD BE A
03:14 - 42.720 FIRST.
03:14 - 45.610 >>THAT IS ONE OF OUR
03:14 - 46.750 ARGUMENTS THAT THE TO THE
03:14 - 48.240 EXTENT THERE IS AN AMBIGUITY
03:14 - 49.870 THAT WOULD BE WHAT ARGUE IF THE
03:14 - 51.080 COURT IS INDICATING THAT THEY
03:14 - 52.710 DON'T SEE AN AMBIGUITY THAT I
03:14 - 53.580 WOULD ARGUE THAT
03:14 - 56.590 THE WORDS A CONVENTION CENTER.
03:14 - 58.120 THAT THAT
03:14 - 00.150 HAS MEANING THAT THE IN THE
03:15 - 02.060 STATUTE ALSO SAY THE CONVENTION
03:15 - 04.130 SORTIES PURPOSE
03:15 - 06.090 IS TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS
03:15 - 07.310 AND BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND
03:15 - 08.680 ALL OF THESE BROAD RANGE OF
03:15 - 10.160 TOPICS IT'S THROUGH THE
03:15 - 11.160 CONSTRUCTION OF THE
03:15 - 13.610 CONVENTION CENTER. THEY ARE THE
03:15 - 14.840 DOZENS OF THE 2 THINK
03:15 - 16.920 CONVENTION CENTER OR CONVENTION
03:15 - 18.000 CENTER FACILITY.
03:15 - 19.750 >>AND THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY
03:15 - 21.060 THAT THE CONVENTION
03:15 - 23.010 CENTER FACILITY NEED NOT
03:15 - 24.270 COMPRISE A SINGLE
03:15 - 26.320 INTEGRATED COMPLEX I MAY BE
03:15 - 27.770 LOCATED THAT ONE OR MORE
03:15 - 29.570 LOCATIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY MAY
03:15 - 31.110 FUNCTION INDEPENDENTLY OF ONE
03:15 - 31.550 ANOTHER.
03:15 - 33.440 >>OTHER THAN ANTICIPATION
03:15 - 35.190 THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF
03:15 - 37.440 BUILDING THAT MAY ARISE AND THE
03:15 - 38.620 38 IN WITH THE
03:15 - 39.570 CONVENTION CENTER.
03:15 - 41.660 >>AND THERE ARE OTHER SECTIONS
03:15 - 43.370 OF THE STATUTE THAT DISCUSS
03:15 - 45.260 THAT JUST KOBE I AGREE WITH
03:15 - 46.800 THAT. BUT THE SECTION DEALING
03:15 - 48.450 WITH PURPOSE. THE SECTION
03:15 - 49.600 YOU'LL IS MOST IMPORTANT HERE
03:15 - 50.380 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
03:15 - 51.800 TALKING ABOUT IS THE AUTHORIZED
03:15 - 54.140 PURPOSE. SPEAKS OF CONVENTION
03:15 - 56.110 CENTERS. IT DOESN'T SPEAK OF
03:15 - 56.650 CONVENTION
03:15 - 59.160 CENTER FACILITIES WHICH BASED
03:15 - 01.120 UPON THAT DEFINITION IN SECTION
03:16 - 04.730 23 99.53 CAN BUILDING
03:16 - 06.800 THEY WANT WHETHER CONNECTED TO
03:16 - 08.240 A CONVENTION CENTER.
03:16 - 11.360 YOU. LIKE A BALLPARK OR RENO OR
03:16 - 12.540 CONVENTION CENTER TO BE
03:16 - 14.550 ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY HAVING
03:16 - 15.910 NOTHING TO DO WITH ONE OF THOSE
03:16 - 16.650 THIN USE THAT.
03:16 - 18.350 COMMON SENSE
03:16 - 21.280 AND IN NORMAL WORD USAGE WOULD
03:16 - 22.720 NEED A PLACE FOR LARGE
03:16 - 24.560 GATHERINGS OCCURRED TO EITHER
03:16 - 26.820 ENGAGE IN A SPORT, PERFORMING
03:16 - 27.720 ART FOR
03:16 - 30.690 THE CONVENTION. BUT IT WENT
03:16 - 32.440 FURTHER COUNSEL IN A BED.
03:16 - 35.540 >>AND THE OTHER BUSINESS SOCIAL
03:16 - 37.990 CULTURAL SCIENTIFIC AND
03:16 - 39.880 INCLUDED FOR RECREATION MARKET
03:16 - 41.620 TAKEN PUBLIC INTEREST POOR
03:16 - 43.130 PERFORMANCE IN THE CLIP YOU
03:16 - 43.710 THINK TO THAT
03:16 - 47.070 EXHIBITION OTHER BUSINESS SO
03:16 - 48.620 CHILL CULTURE AND HOW DO YOU.
03:16 - 51.250 HOW DO YOU CAN'T YOU HAVE TO
03:16 - 52.920 TAKE THAT LANGUAGE OUT TO SAY
03:16 - 53.860 THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE
03:16 - 56.620 ANY OTHER SOCIAL OR BUSINESS
03:16 - 59.310 FUNCTION WITHIN THAT ABILITY.
03:16 - 01.210 I THINK
03:17 - 02.750 WE INCLUDED IT SO THAT'S THE
03:17 - 03.550 HURDLE
03:17 - 04.640 SAID THIS.
03:17 - 06.400 >>IS AN EXCEPTIONALLY BROAD
03:17 - 08.170 STATUTE, I AGREE AND I THINK
03:17 - 10.230 SO MUCH SO THAT IT'S CAPABLE OF
03:17 - 11.730 BEING MISCONSTRUED AS THE TRIAL
03:17 - 13.000 COURT DIDN'T HEAR WHAT I WOULD
03:17 - 14.990 SAY ABOUT THAT JUST CALL IT IS
03:17 - 17.420 THE TYPES OF THINGS YOU JUST
03:17 - 19.300 DESCRIBED CULTURAL SCIENTIFIC
03:17 - 21.190 SOCIAL BUSINESS. THOSE ARE WHAT
03:17 - 22.540 I WOULD TYPICALLY THINK WORKER
03:17 - 23.700 INSIDE THE CONVENTION CENTER.
03:17 - 26.300 OR WITHIN
03:17 - 28.480 A YEAR LIKE THE WATER HEATER OR
03:17 - 30.640 PERHAPS THE ERIE INSURANCE
03:17 - 33.360 ARENA. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE NOT
03:17 - 34.670 YOU COULD TAKE THOSE AN
03:17 - 36.210 EXPANDED ANYTHING I USE THE
03:17 - 38.040 ANALOGY OF A TUSSLE BECAUSE YOU
03:17 - 40.090 KNOW CERTAINLY SOCIAL PLACE ARE
03:17 - 41.630 WE IN AND THEY CAN BUILD UNDER
03:17 - 43.270 THIS READING OF THE STATUTE
03:17 - 44.670 THEY CAN BUILD A CASINO DOWN ON
03:17 - 46.270 THE BAYFRONT IT WOULD BE TAX
03:17 - 48.060 EXEMPT UNDER THIS STATUTE, SURE
03:17 - 48.850 YOU THEY WOULD TAX
03:17 - 51.760 A CASINO. DIFFERENT
03:17 - 55.480 JESS EISLER MIGHT I'M SOME
03:17 - 56.900 SALES TAX BUT THEY'RE NOT THE
03:17 - 58.550 REAL ESTATE TAX IF THAT IF WE
03:17 - 00.510 READ THE STATUE WHEN THE JUDGE
03:18 - 02.100 HAS THEY CAN BUILD ANYTHING
03:18 - 04.250 ON THAT PROPERTY DOWN BY
03:18 - 05.430 ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY AND
03:18 - 06.870 THEY'RE NOT THE KIND OF TAXES
03:18 - 08.380 NET CAN BE WHAT THE
03:18 - 10.390 LEGISLATURE INTENDED. THANK YOU
03:18 - 11.560 VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
03:18 - 20.240 >>I COURT IS NOW ADJOURNED.