00:28 - >>HELLO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

00:29 - AND WELCOME TO BATTLEFIELD

00:31 - PENNSYLVANIA. TODAY WE'RE ON

00:32 - LOCATION IN HAMPTON TOWNSHIP,

00:34 - CUMBERLAND COUNTY. IN JUNE OF

00:36 - 18. 63 ROBERT E LEE'S ARMY OF

00:38 - NORTHERN VIRGINIA WAS BEARING

00:40 - DOWN ON HARRISBURG.

00:41 - WHEN THE CONFEDERATES FIRST

00:43 - ARRIVED IN THE WEST SHORE, THE

00:44 - SUSQUEHANNA RIVER ENGAGED IN

00:45 - A FIREFIGHT WITH UNION MILITIA,

00:47 - A PLACE CALLED SPORTING BUILT.

00:49 - ALL THOSE EVENT IS OFTEN

00:50 - TREATED AS A FOOTNOTE IN

00:51 - HISTORY. IT WAS THE

00:52 - NORTHERNMOST ACTION OF THE

00:53 - GETTYSBURG CAMPAIGN AND THE

00:55 - CLOSEST, THE CONFEDERATES,

00:56 - WHATEVER COMES TO CAPTURING THE

00:58 - STATE CAPITOL. I'M YOUR HOST

01:00 - CREIGHTON KREUTZER. JOINING

01:02 - ME TODAY TO DISCUSS THE

01:03 - SKIRMISH EXPORTING PAYLESS,

01:04 - AUTHOR COOPER WINGER. AND

01:06 - PRESIDENT OF THE CAMP CURRENT

01:07 - HISTORICAL SOCIETY. JIM

01:09 - SCHMIDT, GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU

01:11 - BOTH FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU.

01:13 - COOPER, I'D LIKE TO START WITH

01:14 - YOU. TELL US ABOUT YOUR

01:15 - BACKGROUND. THE CIVIL WAR.

01:16 - >>I THANK YOU, I

01:19 - RESEARCHING OF THE CIVIL WAR

01:21 - SHORTLY AFTER A GREAT FIELD

01:22 - TRIP TO GETTYSBURG. I'VE LIVED

01:24 - HERE IN THE HARRISBURG AREA ALL

01:25 - MY LIFE AND THE I MEAN, PASS

01:27 - THIS BARN FOR YEARS. GROWING UP

01:29 - AS A KID IN REALLY DIDN'T KNOW

01:30 - QUITE WHAT IT MEANT.

01:33 - IN OUR HISTORY. AND AS I BEGAN

01:34 - READING BOOKS LIKE HERE COME

01:36 - THE REBELS ON THE INVASION OF

01:38 - THE WEST SHORE AND THE

01:39 - CONFEDERATE APPROACH TO

01:40 - HARRISBURG. IT SPARKED AN

01:41 - INTEREST IN ME AND I BEGAN

01:43 - DOING FIRE A SOURCE RESEARCH

01:45 - ALL ACROSS THE MAILING CHECKS

01:47 - FOR PHOTOCOPIES, HISTORICAL

01:49 - SOCIETIES BACK COMBINED TO

01:52 - CREATE A A A A A ROAD CALLED

01:54 - THE CONFEDERATE APPROACH ON

01:55 - HARRISBURG. SO THAT'S PRETTY

01:58 - MUCH HOW I GOT STARTED. VERY

02:00 - PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS LOCAL

02:05 - >>BACK IN WAS A LITTLE LITTLE

02:08 - GUY, 2 YEARS OLD WITH DAVID

02:09 - TAKING GETTYSBURG AND GROWING

02:11 - UP, CONTINUE TO TAKE ME THERE

02:13 - IS THAT SO HE REMEMBERS LIKE

02:14 - IT. AND SEEING THE BIG

02:16 - MONUMENTS, YOU KNOW, HE'S JUST

02:18 - AN IMPRESSION ON ME, REALLY GOT

02:20 - ME HOOKED ON THE CIVIL WAR.

02:21 - BUT HE NEVER REALLY TAUGHT ME

02:22 - ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, JUST WENT

02:24 - DOWN THERE. SO I WANT TO TEACH

02:26 - MY KIDS STUFF. AND I GOT REALLY

02:27 - INTO IT. AND A PASSION ABOUT

02:30 - IT. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF

02:32 - MY FAVORITES, MY WHOLE BACK

02:35 - IN

02:37 - I HELPED LEAD AN EFFORT TO GET

02:38 - THE GOVERNOR KIRK MONUMENT

02:39 - RESTORED IN HARRISBURG. IT WAS

02:42 - WHERE THE DAUPHIN COUNTY

02:43 - AGRICULTURAL FAIRGROUNDS WERE

02:45 - DURING THE CIVIL WAR. THE 4

02:47 - RUNNER FOR THE PENNSYLVANIA

02:48 - STATE SHOW COURSE BACK THEN

02:49 - WITH THE PRESENT DAY 16 WOULD

02:52 - MIND AND OUT OF THAT EFFORT, WE

02:54 - CREATED A CAMP, HER HISTORICAL

02:55 - SOCIETY WHERE LIKE THE

02:56 - WATCHDOG, THE CENTRAL PA, WE'RE

02:59 - HERE TO HELP PRESERVE CENTRAL

03:01 - PA IS SO WE'RE HISTORY. WE'RE

03:03 - STARTING POINT MONUMENTS AWAY.

03:04 - SIDE'S UP OF THE AREA TO

03:06 - EDUCATE THE PUBLIC. WHAT

03:08 - HAPPENED AROUND HERE BECAUSE

03:09 - YOU GOT A LOOK AT THE WHOLE

03:10 - CAMPAIGN, NOT JUST THE 3 DAYS

03:12 - OF GETTYSBURG.

03:13 - >>WHAT DO YOU MAKE YOUR LIVING

03:14 - YOUR OWN URINE, STUART? YES,

03:16 - YES. I'VE HAD THAT STORE NOW

03:18 - 15 YEARS. I WAS AN ACTUAL MAIL

03:20 - CARRIER AND I DELIVER MAIL IN

03:22 - CAMP KURT FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS.

03:25 - WE'VE GOT A BOOST OR THIS

03:27 - RETIRED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

03:28 - BUT NOW I WORK THERE. PART

03:30 - HUNT. SO IT'S NEAT.

03:32 - >>SO TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT

03:33 - THE AREA WE'RE IN NOW. WHAT WAS

03:35 - THIS PLACE LIKE IN THE 18 60'S?

03:39 - >>WE CAN EXPERIENCE 2000

03:41 - PEOPLE.

03:42 - AND IN HARRISBURG HAD 14,000

03:44 - PEOPLE, GETTYSBURG AT 2400 TO

03:46 - REALLY MECHANICSBURG.

03:48 - GETTYSBURG WAS ABOUT TO CLOSE

03:49 - THE SAME SIZE. THE LITTLE

03:52 - VILLAGE, A WHITE HALL IN 12

03:53 - HOUSES. NOW TO CALL IT CAMP

03:55 - HILL. BUT IT WAS CALLED WHITE

03:57 - HALL DURING THIS TIME. THE

03:58 - CHURCH OF GOD WAS FOUNDED HERE

04:00 - SAID THE CIVIL WAR POST, MISTER

04:01 - BOEHNER RENAMES IT CAMP HILL

04:03 - FOR THE CHURCH OF GOD CAMP UP

04:04 - ON THE HILL BRIDGEPORT, WHICH

04:06 - IS NOW IN A WAY WHERE THE

04:07 - FORTIFICATIONS WERE BUILT.

04:08 - WE HAD ABOUT A DOZEN HOMES.

04:10 - ALSO.

04:11 - >>WHAT WAS THE STATE OF THE

04:12 - WARNING SIGNS OF SUPPORT?

04:13 - WELL, FOR THE AVERAGE OBSERVER

04:17 - BOTH TODAY AND IN 18. 63, YOU

04:19 - WOULD THINK THE CONFEDERACY WAS

04:20 - DOING VERY WELL.

04:22 - >>AND WE HAVE AN OLD SAYING

04:23 - DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS

04:24 - COVER. THAT IS EXACTLY TRUE.

04:25 - HERE. THE CONFEDERACY IS ON

04:27 - THE SHORT AS FAR AS MANPOWER

04:30 - GOES, WEAPONRY GOES AMMUNITION.

04:32 - FOOD STUFFS, THEY ARE LITERALLY

04:34 - STRUGGLING TO FEED THEIR ARMY

04:36 - AND THEIR WIVES AND CHILDREN

04:38 - BACK HOME WHO ARE LEFT VERY

04:40 - DESOLATE, THIS UNION BLOCKADE

04:42 - THAT HAVE BEEN INSTITUTED 2

04:43 - YEARS EARLIER. IT'S TIGHTENING

04:45 - SOUTHERN PORTS. ROBERT E LEE

04:47 - NOW HAS CONFRONTED IN MAY OF

04:49 - 18. 63 WITH PUSHBACK FROM

04:52 - CONFEDERATE AND RICHMOND GOT

04:53 - FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY WANT

04:54 - TO SEND PART OF HIS ARMY ALL

04:56 - THE WAY DOWN TO VICKSBURG,

04:57 - MISSISSIPPI, TO HELP THIS.

04:59 - I'M RELIEVED THAT CITY. THAT'S

05:02 - AN IMPORTANT CITY. BUT ROBERT E

05:03 - LEE UNDERSTANDS THE EASTERN

05:04 - THEATER IS THE KEY TO THIS WAR.

05:06 - IT IS THE KEY TO PUBLIC

05:07 - PERCEPTION OF THE NORTH.

05:09 - HE KNOWS AN ALL-OUT MILITARY

05:10 - VICTORY AGAINST NORTH IS NOT

05:12 - POSSIBLE. WHAT HE HAS TO DO

05:13 - IS HE HAS TO BREAK THE WILL OF

05:15 - THE NORTHERN PEOPLE ABOVE

05:16 - ANYTHING ELSE AND HE HE'S BEEN

05:19 - DOING THIS IN VIRGINIA WHERE

05:21 - HE'S BEEN WINNING THESE BATTLES

05:22 - IN DECEMBER 18. 62, HE BEAT A

05:24 - UNION FORCE IT OUT NUMBER

05:26 - 740,000 TO 70,000, 6 MONTHS

05:29 - LATER HE BEAT A UNION ARMY.

05:31 - THAT NUMBER SOME 3 TO ONE.

05:33 - HE CONTINUES TO DO THIS.

05:34 - THESE AMAZING BATTLEFIELD FEET.

05:36 - YEAH, THE WAR CONTINUES ON

05:38 - ABRAHAM LINCOLN IS NOT GIVING

05:40 - UP ON THIS SCORE. THE QUESTION

05:42 - IS. KENLEY MAKE THE NORTHERN

05:45 - PART PEOPLE GIVE UP ON THIS

05:46 - SCORE AND HE KNOWS THERE'S 2.

05:48 - THERE'S ONE BIG WAY THE

05:50 - NORTHERN PEOPLE CAN FORCE

05:51 - LINCOLN. THAT'S THE ELECTIONS.

05:53 - SO HE WANTS TO BRING THE WAR TO

05:54 - THE NORTHERN PEOPLE. THAT'S WHY

05:55 - HE COMES HERE TO PENNSYLVANIA.

05:57 - HE CAN WIN ALL THE BATTLEFIELD

05:58 - VICTORIES HE WANTS IN VIRGINIA.

06:01 - OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT MOVING

06:03 - THE NEEDLE TO GET THE NORTHERN

06:05 - PUBLIC TO SAY THIS. THIS IS

06:06 - ENOUGH. LET HIM GO BE THEIR

06:07 - OWN NATION. SO THAT'S WHY HE

06:08 - COMES HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA.

06:11 - IN 18, 60 FOR 8.

06:13 - >>WELL, ANOTHER THING ALSO TO

06:15 - TALK ABOUT IS WHAT LEE GOT OUT

06:18 - OF THIS COMING UP FOR THE

06:19 - SHENANDOAH VALLEY, WHICH

06:20 - BECOMES A CUMBERLAND VALLEY,

06:21 - WOULD HIT PA THE AGRICULTURE

06:23 - AROUND HERE. WE'VE GOT OVER

06:26 - 70,002 HEAD OF CATTLE AND SHEEP

06:28 - AND COWS AND, YOU KNOW, HE WAS

06:31 - HAPPY THE WHOLE IN OCTOBER WITH

06:32 - THE AMOUNT OF FOOD THAT THEY

06:34 - ARE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE

06:35 - CUMBERLAND VALLEY HERE. SO YOU

06:38 - GOT TO THINKING THAT YOU ALWAYS

06:39 - GOT TO BE NEAR WATER AND YOU'VE

06:40 - GOT TO CLEAN OUT THE FORMS.

06:42 - >>WHAT WAS IT ABOUT

06:43 - PENNSYLVANIA FOR AN INVASION

06:45 - THAT WAS SO ATTRACTED TO IT?

06:46 - >>WELL, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT

06:48 - THE NORTHERN STATES, OBVIOUSLY,

06:49 - PENNSYLVANIA, MARYLAND IS NOT

06:50 - QUITE A FULL FLEDGE NORTHERN

06:52 - STATE. YOU KNOW, NORTHERN STAY

06:53 - WITH HAS TOUCHED SO MANY TO THE

06:54 - BOTTOM LOYALTIES OF THE TIME.

06:56 - PENNSYLVANIA IS THE CLOSEST 8

06:58 - THAT LEE CAN REACH. AND NOW YOU

07:00 - LOOK AT THE CITIES IN

07:01 - PENNSYLVANIA, PITTSBURGH AT

07:02 - PHILADELPHIA, HARRISBURG ARE

07:03 - THE 3 MAJOR CITIES IN SOUTHERN

07:05 - PENNSYLVANIA, SOUTHERN, YOU

07:07 - KNOW, SPIRIT, PENNSYLVANIA

07:08 - ACTUALLY SACKED PITTSBURGH AND

07:09 - PHILADELPHIA ARE A LONG HAUL

07:11 - FOR AN ARMY OF ESPECIALLY

07:13 - CONSIDERING YOU HAVE TO KEEP

07:14 - YOUR LINE OF COMMUNICATIONS.

07:16 - YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FEED

07:17 - 70,000 COUNTLESS THOUSANDS OF

07:20 - HORSES.

07:21 - AMMUNITION, COMMUNICATIONS WITH

07:23 - RICHMOND, WHAT CITY IN

07:25 - PENNSYLVANIA CAN HE CONTINUE

07:27 - STRAIGHT UP, AS JIM MENTIONED,

07:28 - THROUGH THE VALLEY, A REGION

07:29 - THAT IS HARRISBURG TO COME UP

07:31 - TO COME DOWN THE SHENANDOAH

07:32 - VALLEY THROUGH THE CUMBERLAND

07:34 - VALLEY AND YOU FALL. THE GREAT

07:36 - VALLEY ROAD WE NOW KNOW ISRAEL,

07:38 - LEBANON TO HARRISBURG AND

07:41 - HARRISBURG. MAYBE MAYBE IT'S

07:42 - NOT PHILADELPHIA. IT'S NOT

07:43 - PITTSBURGH IN SIZE IT HAS ABOUT

07:46 - 14, 15,000 PEOPLE AS OF 18, 60,

07:48 - BUT IT IS A CAPITAL.

07:50 - AND THERE WAS ONE NORTHERN

07:52 - CAPITAL, WHICH IS FRANKFORT,

07:53 - KENTUCKY. BUT AGAIN, KENTUCKY

07:55 - IS ONE OF THOSE BORDER STATES

07:56 - THAT HAS DIVIDED LOYALTIES HAD

07:58 - TO THAT CONFEDERATE GOVERNMENT

08:00 - AND A UNION GOVERNMENT.

08:01 - PENNSYLVANIA IS THE SECOND

08:03 - LARGEST STATE IN THE UNION AS

08:04 - FAR AS PRODUCING MANPOWER FOR

08:06 - THE WAR. IMAGINE OF HARRISBURG

08:08 - FALLS AND WHAT ROBERT E LEE

08:09 - UNDERSTOOD A MEMBER. HIS GOAL.

08:11 - HE IS NOT ONE PHYSICAL GOAL.

08:14 - THERE'S NO GEOGRAPHICAL.

08:16 - HIS GOAL IS THE WILL OF THE

08:17 - NORTHERN PEOPLE. PEOPLE WHO SAY

08:19 - ROBERT E LEE CAME HERE AND HIT

08:21 - THE ONLY THING ON HIS MIND WAS

08:22 - GETTYSBURG. HE CAPTURED

08:24 - GETTYSBURG TWICE DURING THE

08:25 - GETTYSBURG CAMPAIGN. DIDN'T DO

08:27 - HIM ANY GOOD.

08:30 - REALLY AS HE'S COMING UP.

08:31 - GETTYSBURG IS JUST AS MUCH

08:32 - SIGNIFICANCE TO ROBERT E LEE AS

08:34 - HAGERSTOWN CHAMBERSBURG OR TINY

08:38 - TOWN OR ANY REAL, REALLY ANY

08:39 - SMALL TOWN OF THAT GENERAL SIZE

08:41 - UP THE VALLEY. SO LEE COMES TO

08:43 - HARRISBURG, UNDERSTANDING THAT

08:46 - THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE HE CAN

08:48 - MAKE THAT BLOW TO THE NORTHERN

08:50 - PEOPLE'S CONFIDENCE. IMAGINE ON

08:52 - THE COVER OF FRANK LESLIE'S

08:53 - ILLUSTRATED NEWSPAPER, HARPER'S

08:54 - WEEKLY, AN ENGRAVING WITH THE

08:56 - SMOLDERING RUINS OF THE CAPITAL

08:58 - OF HARRISBURG. THAT'S WHAT

08:59 - ROBERT E LEE IS GOING FOR.

09:00 - IT.

09:01 - >>WAS THERE ANY SENSE BECAUSE

09:03 - PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW REALLY WAS

09:04 - GOING IN EITHER PITTSBURGH OR

09:06 - PHILADELPHIA, THAT HE MAY BE

09:07 - COMING THERE NEXT. THEY BASE

09:09 - CENT.

09:10 - >>COUNTLESS ROUNDS OF

09:11 - AMMUNITION, CALLOUS SUPPLIES AT

09:13 - THE PITTSBURGH. THEY'RE

09:13 - ACTUALLY FORCE BIG IT BEING

09:15 - CONSTRUCTED OUT THERE. THEY

09:16 - SAID MOST OF THE SUPPLIES AND

09:18 - ATTENTION TO PITTSBURGH, BUT

09:20 - ULTIMATELY THAT WAS REALLY

09:21 - NEVER A ROBERT E LEE'S

09:22 - PLAYBOOK. HEAT. IT WAS IT WAS

09:23 - KIND OF UNREALISTIC TO THINK

09:25 - YOU CAN BREAK HIS LINE OF

09:26 - CONNECTION WITH 70,000 MAN AND

09:28 - GO OUT THERE

09:33 - >>JUBILEE EARLY'S MEME OR SAY

09:34 - AFTER THE WAR WILL END ALL

09:36 - SUPER LOOK TO BOOST LEE'S

09:39 - ARTILLERY. THEY BOTH SAID

09:40 - DEFINITELY HARRISBURG WAS A

09:42 - TARGET. AND, YOU KNOW, COOP

09:44 - EARLIER TO TO GETTYSBURG BEING

09:46 - TAKEN TWICE A NIGHT. I THE

09:49 - FIRST LOT OF PEOPLE REALIZE

09:50 - THAT THEY CAME THROUGH WHAT

09:52 - ABOUT 5 DAYS PRIOR WHEN YOU'LL

09:55 - SPLIT TO SCORE 2 THIRDS COME UP

09:57 - TO HERE. BUT THE OTHER 3RD

09:59 - WONDER EARLY HE'S GOING THROUGH

10:01 - GETTYSBURG EVENTUALLY ENDING UP

10:03 - IN YORK IN THE WRIGHTSVILLE

10:04 - COURSE THE BRIDGES BURNED THERE

10:07 - THE TROOPS CANNOT CROSS.

10:10 - I REALLY WANTED TO STAY ON THE

10:12 - ENSURE HE WAS ORDERED. HE SAID

10:13 - TO GO INTO COLUMBIA, COME BACK

10:16 - THE BRIDGE AND HAD TO CARLISLE.

10:18 - BUT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO GO

10:19 - OVER THE BRIDGE. STAY WHERE

10:21 - THERE WILL BE A BURN IT AND

10:22 - STAY ON HARRISBURG TO THE

10:23 - SHORE. WELL, THE SHORE OF OF

10:26 - THAT AREA COME UP TO BASE IN

10:27 - MARIETTA, MIDDLETOWN INTO

10:29 - HARRIS.

10:30 - >>WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE

10:31 - LOGISTICS OF PICKING

10:32 - HARRISBURG, IT'S A MAJOR

10:33 - RAILROAD HUB.

10:35 - >>YES, YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF

10:36 - RAILROAD. YOU HAVE THE

10:37 - CUMBERLAND VALLEY RAILROAD

10:38 - RUNNING OUT FOR HARRISBURG DOWN

10:40 - THE

10:41 - YOU HAVE THE NORTHERN CENTRAL

10:43 - RAILROAD WHICH KIND OF WRAPPED

10:44 - UP FROM CAMP CURTAIN WRAPPED

10:47 - AND WITH GO SOUTH DOWN TOWARDS

10:49 - BALTIMORE AND YOU ALSO HAVE

10:51 - THE PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD,

10:52 - WHICH IS NEAR THE SITE OF THE

10:53 - CURRENT ROCKVILLE BRIDGE, WHICH

10:55 - IS A BRIDGE, NOT THE SAME

10:56 - BRIDGE, BUT AT THIS STORE

10:57 - LOCATION OF IT, WHICH WAS A

10:59 - MAJOR SUPPLY LINE TO SEND

11:01 - TROOPS AND SUPPLIES OUT TO THE

11:02 - WEST.

11:04 - CAMP CURTAIN HAS JIM JIM

11:05 - ALLUDED TO IS ONE OF THE

11:07 - TRAINING CAMPS IN THE WAR.

11:08 - SO WITH JUST A CLEAN, NOT JUST

11:10 - IT'S A CAPITAL. GETTING

11:12 - HARRISBURG WOULD BE A MAJOR

11:13 - BLAST.

11:14 - >>THERE'S OVER 300,000 TROOPS

11:16 - CAME THROUGH HARRISBURG OVER

11:19 - 4 YEARS OF I WORE IT DEFINITELY

11:22 - WAS NUMBER ONE IN THE NORTH.

11:24 - NOT THE WHOLE NATION I KNOW

11:26 - BACK THEN WHEN YOU SAY TRAINING

11:28 - CAMP, SOMETIMES JUST HERE'S

11:30 - UNIFORM, REAGAN'S, YOU'RE OFF

11:31 - THE GUYS THAT WE WERE TAUGHT

11:32 - HOW TO FIRE A WEAPON. IT JUST

11:34 - DEPENDS. WELL ON THE EMERGENCY

11:36 - AT THE TIME.

11:38 - >>WHEN YOU TALK A LITTLE MORE

11:39 - ABOUT CAMP CURTIN, IT'S NOT

11:40 - LIKE THE CIVIL WAR WAS

11:41 - COMPLETELY AWAY FROM HARRISBURG

11:42 - BEFORE THAT.

11:43 - >>I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WAS 5

11:45 - DAYS AFTER THE SURRENDER OF

11:47 - FORT SUMTER, GOVERNOR CURTAIN

11:49 - TAKES OVER THE DAUPHIN COUNTY

11:50 - AGRICULTURAL, FAIR GROUNDS,

11:52 - WHICH I SAY IS LIKE THE 4

11:53 - RUNNER, THE PENNSYLVANIA STATE

11:55 - FARM SHOW, WHICH IS A HUGE

11:56 - COMPLEX TODAY WHERE THE FARM

11:58 - SHOW IS TODAY WAS A CANAL.

12:00 - THE CANALS CAME THROUGH

12:02 - DUNCANNON DOWN, THE RIVER.

12:04 - AND WHEN THE INSURED AND DOWN

12:06 - THROUGH CAMERON STREET AND

12:10 - SOUTHEAST.

12:12 - KURT, WHO WAS BASICALLY TODAY

12:15 - FROM STILL THERE BE 2 BLOCKS

12:17 - BY 6 BLOCKS. BUT DANIEL HOFFMAN

12:19 - IS WOODS WHERE THE OUT OF STATE

12:20 - GROUPS EVIL CAN'T SO AT CERTAIN

12:23 - TIMES THERE WAS MORE MEN IN

12:25 - CAMP CURTIN WERE CIVILIANS IN

12:27 - THE CITY AND THE MAYOR'S HAD A

12:29 - LOT OF PROBLEMS OVER THE OVER

12:31 - THE 4 YEARS OF THE WAR. WE HAVE

12:34 - FINALLY GET THE ARMY TO HELP

12:35 - POLICE THE STREETS BECAUSE THE

12:36 - SOLDIERS, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE

12:38 - GUYS ARE YOUNG. THEY'RE FARMERS

12:39 - IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE AWAY

12:40 - FROM HOME.

12:42 - AND THEY'RE SO IN A TO GET

12:43 - CRAZY THERE'S TROUBLE ON AND

12:46 - OFF AND

12:48 - THE ARMY HAD TO START HELPING

12:49 - THE POLICE POLICE CAME, BUT IT

12:52 - CLOSED WHICH TODAY THE VETERANS

12:55 - DAY 100 25TH 200 50TH

12:57 - ANNIVERSARY OF THE CLOSING CAMP

12:58 - HURT IS NOVEMBER. 11TH OF 2015

13:02 - AND IT IS ORGANIZATIONS 2050,

13:04 - YEARS SINCE ITS FOUNDING.

13:05 - ALSO THIS YEAR.

13:08 - >>NOW THAT THE EVENT WE'RE

13:09 - TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS A

13:10 - RELATIVELY SMALL AFFAIR

13:12 - COMPARED TO GETTYSBURG OR

13:13 - FREDRICKSBURG. BUT THERE'S SOME

13:14 - BIG CHARACTERS INVOLVED.

13:16 - WE TALK ABOUT VARIOUS COUNT.

13:20 - >>THERE IS WAS ACTUALLY AHEAD

13:21 - OF THE SECOND CORE, A CHANCE

13:23 - FOR HIS VOTE.

13:26 - AFTER THAT BATTLES OVER AND

13:29 - HE TOLD OUT OF HERE, YOU KNOW,

13:31 - I GOT TO GOT TO GIVE YOU

13:32 - SOMETHING LIKE CONCRETE TO BE

13:34 - PART OF THE SUSQUEHANNA.

13:36 - AND COUCHES BROUGHT IN TO START

13:39 - CHECKING OUT THE FORTIFICATIONS

13:41 - AND ADDING FORTIFICATIONS THERE

13:45 - 2 FORTS BUILT ON THE WELSH

13:47 - REPAIR SPURS WESTSHORE NETS

13:48 - FOR WASHINGTON, WHICH WAS

13:50 - ALREADY STARTED. AND THEN WITH

13:52 - COUCH GOT HERE SOME OF THE

13:54 - SOLDIERS THAT ARE ALREADY ON

13:55 - THE GROUND LIKE COUCH KNOW HEY,

13:59 - THERE'S GROUND HERE A LITTLE

14:00 - BIT HIGHER WEST OF THIS FORT

14:02 - REALLY SHOULD BE BUILDING HERE.

14:03 - ALSO. THEY GOT THAT GOING TO

14:06 - AND THEY HAD THE CIVILIANS COME

14:08 - OVER FROM HARRISBURG, PROBABLY

14:10 - ABOUT 1008 AT ONE TIME, BUT

14:14 - THEY'RE ALL OFFICE WORKERS AND

14:15 - THEY'RE USED TO BEING IN OFFICE

14:17 - IS NOT TO HAVE REWORKED.

14:19 - SO THE NEXT DAY, A LOT OF MORE

14:20 - COMING BACK TO HELP THE

14:21 - FORTIFICATIONS THAT ARE BEING

14:23 - BUILT THE MIDDLE OF JUNE.

14:25 - SO WHAT THEY DID WAS BLACK

14:28 - LABORS OVER BLACK RAILROAD

14:30 - GANGS AND THEN ANYWHERE FROM

14:33 - $0.75 TO THE $1.25. WHAT'S VERY

14:35 - FAIR USE SOLDIERS ON MAKING

14:37 - $13 AND 8. YOU KNOW, THEY WERE

14:39 - RIPPING THEM OFF AND THE LA

14:41 - TIMES THEY DON'T GET THE CREDIT

14:43 - FOR HELPING TO FINISH THE

14:44 - FORTIFICATIONS ONE HARRISBURG'S

14:47 - WAS SHORT.

14:48 - >>WHEN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT

14:49 - THOSE 4TH, WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE,

14:51 - A GOOD THEY'VE STOPPED THE

14:52 - CONFEDERATE EFFECT.

14:53 - >>WELL, THE DEFINITELY REPLACE

14:55 - THE HIGH GROUND AND THE

14:56 - CONFEDERATES WERE TOLD.

14:59 - TO TAKE THEY REALLY NEED THAT

15:00 - HIGH GROUND BECAUSE THEY CAN

15:01 - LOB SHELLS DOWN ON TO

15:04 - HARRISBURG. THE RIVERS ONLY

15:05 - A 10TH OF A MILE. YOU KNOW,

15:07 - YOU'RE A TORY CAN GO THE 3 INCH

15:10 - ORDINANCE ON PARISH SCHOOL GO

15:11 - MOST OF THE 2 MILE. SO WOULD

15:12 - NOT HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM.

15:14 - THEY DID HAVE 6 ARTILLERY

15:15 - PIECES UP HERE WONDER, JAKE

15:17 - AND CALVARY. SO THEY WERE ON

15:20 - THE HILLS OF BRIDGEPORT, WHICH,

15:22 - OF COURSE, IS TODAY THE MORNING

15:26 - COUCH.

15:27 - COUCH. THERE IS PART OF IT THAT

15:29 - YOU CAN DRIVE AND LOOK AT THEIR

15:31 - IS PART OF THE RAMPART. STILL

15:32 - THERE WASHINGTON. THERE'S BITS

15:35 - AND PIECES THAT GO A LOT OF

15:36 - HOMES ON THEM. NOW. THEY WERE

15:39 - VERY CLOSE TOGETHER IS FOR

15:40 - WASHINGTON TO CAMP OUT

15:42 - FORECAST.

15:43 - >>WITH THE CONFEDERATE INVASION

15:45 - HAVE MEANT TO AFRICAN AMERICANS

15:46 - IN THIS REPORT.

15:47 - >>WILBERT, WELL, AS WE AS I

15:49 - MENTIONED EARLIER, WE IN THIS

15:51 - AREA SOUTH OF PENNSYLVANIA,

15:53 - WEST, THE SUSQUEHANNA, VERY

15:55 - UNIQUE CONNECTION TO THE SOUTH

15:56 - AND SLAVERY AS AN INSTITUTION.

15:58 - PENNSYLVANIA, BECAUSE OF THAT

16:00 - BARRIER. IN PART LAST HERE, A

16:02 - LOT LONGER THAN OTHER OTHER

16:03 - PLACES. AND WITH THAT OVER

16:05 - GENERATIONS FREE AFRICAN

16:07 - AMERICAN COMMUNITIES BEGIN TO

16:08 - SPROUT OUT ALL UP AND DOWN THE

16:10 - CUMBERLAND

16:11 - YOU HAD TO CLOSE OR

16:12 - CHAMBERSBURG IN LITTLE AFRICA.

16:14 - BUT UP HERE IN THE IN THE

16:16 - CUMBERLAND COUNTY CARLISLE,

16:17 - HARRISBURG AREA. WHAT A NUMBER

16:19 - OF FREE BLACKS LIVING IN

16:20 - CARLISLE AND HUGE COMMUNITY IN

16:22 - HARRISBURG AS JIM MENTIONED

16:24 - EARLIER, A LOT OF THESE MEN,

16:26 - ESPECIALLY THAT THOSE FROM

16:27 - HARRISBURG ARE TAPPED TO BUILD

16:30 - BECOME FORT COUCH FOR

16:32 - WASHINGTON.

16:33 - THEY ARE IN THE SENSE THEY ARE

16:36 - WORKING. THEY'RE WET. MAYBE

16:38 - THEY CAN'T. THERE ARE A LOT OF

16:39 - FIGHT QUITE YET. WELL, THEY'RE

16:41 - LABORING TO DEFEND THEIR CITY

16:43 - TO DEFEND THE UNION.

16:44 - AND TO DEFEND THE FREEDOM OF

16:46 - OF AFRICAN AMERICANS ALL ACROSS

16:48 - THIS LAND. SO IT'S IT'S A

16:49 - UNIQUE SENSE IN THAT WAY.

16:52 - BUT IN HERE IN CUMBERLAND

16:53 - COUNTY, THERE'S VERY LITTLE

16:55 - RECORDS BECAUSE THERE'S VERY,

16:56 - VERY LITTLE IS VERY, VERY FEW

16:58 - DIARIES BY AFRICAN FOR

17:01 - AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN CUMBERLAND

17:02 - COUNTY. THERE'S ONE ACCOUNT

17:03 - FROM A SPRING HOUSING CARLISLE

17:05 - WHERE THERE'S AN

17:07 - AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN HOLDING

17:08 - HER CROP, HOLDING HER BABY,

17:09 - HOPING BABY WON'T CRY IN A

17:11 - SPRING HOUSES. CONFEDERATES ARE

17:13 - GETTING WATER FROM THAT SAME

17:14 - SPRING OUT JUST OUTSIDE.

17:17 - THAT'S THAT'S NEAR CARLISLE.

17:19 - >>WELL, THE OLD BALL, SO THE

17:21 - THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD WAS

17:22 - PROMINENT. COMING UP, 3

17:23 - GETTYSBURG ALEXANDER SPRINGS

17:25 - AND TO WRIGHTSVILLE AND ALSO

17:28 - INTO YORK SPRINGS BOILING

17:30 - SPRINGS VALLEY SPRINGS BECAUSE

17:32 - HE'S HE'S HEALING AGENTS AND

17:34 - US ALL FROM THE WATER. PEOPLE

17:35 - LIKED GO TO THESE RESORTS, JEFF

17:37 - CARLISLE THAT AROUND HERE, A

17:39 - LOT OF THEM ARE ALSO LINKS ON

17:40 - THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD

17:41 - HEADING INTO HARRISBURG WE'RE

17:45 - ABLE TO CALL THE COUNTY

17:46 - COURTHOUSE IS TODAY. THAT WAS

17:48 - NO LINE SOUTH TO 11 SOUTH FRONT

17:50 - STREET HARRISBURG AS MR.

17:51 - COAKER RATHER FOR 2 THEY

17:55 - PROMINENT STATION MASTER'S IN

17:57 - THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD AND

17:59 - THEN THEY SNEAK A MINUTE NIGHT

18:01 - TO THE 8TH WARD, WHICH IS NOW

18:02 - WITH THE FORUM BUILDING, ISN'T

18:04 - SOLDIERS GROVE? I WAS

18:05 - AFRICAN-AMERICAN AREA.

18:06 - HARRISBURG, AND THEY JUST

18:08 - WORKED THEIR WAY UP THROUGH

18:09 - ROUTE. 81 HAD NO OTHER WAY TO

18:11 - CANADA. LOT OF.

18:13 - CONFEDERATES KIDNAP

18:14 - AFRICAN-AMERICANS. OH, YES.

18:16 - OH, THE GENERAL JENKINS

18:20 - WHEN HE WAS NO PRINTS, YOU

18:22 - KNOW, HE TAKING

18:25 - FREE BLACKS COMING OFF AN

18:27 - IMPORTANT WAY TO MECHANICSBURG

18:30 - SHIPPING HIM DOWN SOUTH.

18:33 - SO THAT DEFINITELY AS WE TALKED

18:34 - ABOUT. BUT IT'S PART OF THE

18:36 - HISTORY OF THE CAMP IGNORED.

18:38 - >>WELL, YOU MENTIONED ALBERT

18:39 - GALLATIN JENKINS. HE'S GOING TO

18:40 - PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN THE EVENT

18:41 - WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OH, YEAH,

18:42 - 40 HILL. WHO IS IN. TELL US

18:44 - ABOUT IT

18:46 - >>HE WAS A 32 YEARS. THE TIME

18:48 - WHEN IT CAME INTO THIS AREA'S

18:49 - BEARD WENT DOWN THOSE BELT.

18:51 - I WANT TO LOAN HIS PEERS IN

18:53 - THE CONFEDERACY. HE WAS A

18:54 - HARVARD GRADUATE AND IT UNITED

18:57 - STATES. CONGRESSMAN.

18:59 - HIT A PLANTATION NEAR GREEN.

19:01 - BOTTOM, WHICH IS IN PRESENT-DAY

19:03 - WEST VIRGINIA. AND IT'S NEAR

19:05 - CHARLESTON IN THAT AREA AND

19:08 - A RECENTLY I WAS LOOKING AT ALL

19:10 - THAT THE JUST PUT ON THE

19:12 - NATIONAL REGISTER FOR HISTORIC

19:13 - PRESERVATION LOOK WELL, THE

19:17 - PLANTATION THERE AND TEACH

19:19 - PEOPLE WATER WAS LIKE DURING

19:21 - THE TIMES. WELL, THE SO WE'RE

19:23 - SETS. THAT'S INTERESTING.

19:26 - HE WAS AROUND THIS AREA FOR

19:27 - 3 DAYS. 3 DAYS. HE WAS IN

19:29 - CHARGE OF ANYWHERE FROM 11 TO

19:31 - 1200 TROOPS. IT'S HARD TO

19:32 - REALLY NAIL IT DOWN BECAUSE

19:34 - OF RAIDING PARTIES AND GUYS

19:35 - BEING SENT TO OTHER PLACES.

19:37 - BUT THAT'S BASICALLY THE AMOUNT

19:38 - THE MEN THAT WAS UNDER HIM.

19:40 - HE WAS A CAVALRY COMMANDER.

19:42 - >>YES, HE WAS THEY WAS THEY

19:44 - WERE NOT YOU KNOW, FROM NEAR

19:47 - CALGARY, NORTHERN VIRGINIA LOT

19:48 - OF TIMES AND ACCOUNTS THEY'RE

19:49 - REFERRED TO AS MOUNT AND THEY

19:51 - WERE OFTEN AS INFANTRY, BUT

19:54 - THEY WERE EFFECT COWERING.

19:56 - THEY WERE THE VANGUARD OF

19:58 - GENERAL. YOU'LL SCORE TOO.

19:59 - AND THIS NORTHERNMOST PROBE OF

20:01 - THE CUMBERLAND VALLEY WAS THE

20:02 - VANGUARD LEE'S ARMY. SO THESE

20:04 - GUYS WERE OUT FRONT RICAN FROM

20:07 - GENERAL. YOU IT.

20:09 - >>WHAT HE HAD HERE WAS THE

20:12 - 34TH AND 36TH VIRGINIA

20:14 - BATTALION, WHICH IS LIKE A

20:16 - FRENCH MINUTES.

20:17 - AND THEN HE HAD A 14 TO 16

20:19 - VIRGINIA REGIMENT.

20:21 - NOW YOU ADD ALL THAT UP.

20:22 - THAT'S 3,000 MEN. IF THAT'S

20:24 - WHAT THEY ACTUALLY HAD, THE THE

20:26 - WAR. BUT, YOU KNOW, BY

20:27 - GETTYSBURG IN THIS CAMPAIGN,

20:29 - A LOT OF THEM ARE DOWN TO 50%.

20:31 - SO IF HE HAD 3,000, WHAT'S 50%,

20:35 - 1500 BE AT ABOUT 1200. AND THEN

20:37 - HE GAVE GORDON EARLY THE 35TH

20:40 - BATTALION AND THE 17TH

20:41 - REGIMENT.

20:42 - AND THEN LEE HAD THE 37TH.

20:44 - BUT I AND SO WE DID HAVE SOME

20:45 - EYES AND THERE'S NOT A LOT.

20:48 - WAS, YOU KNOW, JAKE, INSTEAD

20:51 - DEFINITELY A PRESENCE IN THE

20:52 - CAMPAIGN.

20:53 - >>NOW YOU WILL SEND JENKINS OUT

20:55 - OF CARLISLE TOWARD

20:56 - MECHANICSBURG AND ULTIMATELY

20:57 - HARRISBURG. WHAT'S THE ORDER

20:59 - TO DO THERE? WAS HE DOING IT?

21:01 - >>GENERAL JENKINS'S COMING OUT

21:03 - HERE. HE IS NOT TO TAKE CARE OF

21:05 - BY HIMSELF. HIS GOAL WHAT IS

21:08 - SET AS HIS GOAL IS TO RE CAN

21:11 - ORDER THE DEFENSE OF HARRISBURG

21:12 - AND TELL JOJO BACK IN CARLISLE

21:14 - IF THE CITY IS TAKING FULL

21:17 - AGAIN. AS JIM SAID, HE IS ABOUT

21:18 - 11, 1200 CALORIE COMING UP

21:21 - HERE. EWELLS BACK THERE WITH

21:22 - 15,000 COUNTRY. SO THAT'S THE

21:25 - THAT IS THE REAL FORCE. JENKINS

21:27 - IS JUST THE PROBE TO SEE IT.

21:30 - YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GETTING

21:31 - OURSELVES A NEW YEAR?

21:32 - >>RIGHT WHEN HE COMES IN THE

21:34 - MECHANICSBURG AT 9.30, SUNDAY

21:36 - MORNING. WE GET DOWN GET THE

21:38 - MAYOR OF THE SQUARE BRINGING

21:40 - BACK. AND THEY HAVE THE

21:42 - SURRENDER. AND EVERYBODY BRINGS

21:44 - OR SOMETHING DINNERS DOWN.

21:45 - AND JACOBS GOES OUT THE DOWN

21:48 - THE FIELD OUTSIDE OF TOWN IN

21:50 - THE PRESENT-DAY MECHANICSBURG

21:51 - LIBRARY WAS A GREAT WAREHOUSE,

21:53 - WHICH THEY NEED THAT FOR THE

21:54 - HORSES. THEY JUST GAVE PEOPLE

21:56 - GRASSES. LOT WHEN THE BRAIN

21:57 - ALSO THAT BECAME CONFEDERATE

22:00 - HOSPITAL FOR THE BEIJING

22:01 - HARRISBURG, WHEN THEY SPLIT

22:03 - THEIR FORCE ISN'T HALF PROCEED

22:05 - INTO THE WHERE HE PUTS HIS

22:07 - HEADQUARTERS WHEN THE 5100

22:09 - BLOCK OF MANY SENDS ANOTHER

22:11 - 3 TO 400 HOUR RULE 11 HERE TO

22:14 - START PUSHING THE UNION TROOPS

22:16 - BACK IN TOWARDS HARRISBURG AND

22:18 - CHECKING OUT THE DEFENSE.

22:19 - SO HE'S COMING IN ON ROUTE

22:22 - 6.41. AND ROUTE 11 ON ITS WAY.

22:24 - THAT WOULD BE SUNDAY. THE 28,

22:27 - THIS IS THE SAME TIME THAT

22:29 - HOOKERS REALLY NEED IS PUT THE

22:31 - COMMAND OF THE ARMY OF THE

22:32 - POTOMAC DOWN FREDERICK,

22:35 - MARYLAND.

22:36 - >>WELL, THERE'S SOME FIGHTING

22:38 - IN MECHANICSBURG WHEN HE FIRST

22:39 - ARRIVED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

22:43 - >>WILLIE, WHEN HE COMES UNION

22:45 - KHOURY WAS THE WAS A BOY.

22:48 - CAPTAIN MARIAH CAREY WAS A

22:50 - LITTLE TO YEAH. THAT WAS

22:52 - OUTSIDE THE TOWN. RIGHT?

22:53 - AND THE SMALL SKIRMISH. AND

22:55 - THEY SUGGEST THIS IS VERY GOOD

22:56 - OUT HERE BECAUSE YOU GET HURT.

22:58 - YOU KNOW, THEY THEY RUN INTO

22:59 - THE TRAIN STATION HOTEL WHICH

23:02 - IS IN THERE LONGER. THEY TAKE

23:03 - THE TELEGRAPH MACHINE OUT, RUN

23:05 - OUT. HARRISBURG WITH IT AND

23:07 - THEN JAY KINGS PROCEEDS IN AND

23:10 - THEN THERE'S, OF COURSE, THE

23:12 - SKIRMISHING ONCE ONCE THEY ARE

23:14 - IN THIS AREA JENKINS, PLACES TO

23:17 - ARTILLERY PIECES AT THE ALL

23:18 - BRAND, WHICH IS STILL THERE.

23:20 - THEY CAN PURCHASE ORACLE

23:21 - SOCIETY RECENTLY JUST PUT

23:23 - SIX-WAY SIDES IN THE AREA.

23:25 - THANK YOU. LOOK AT CAMP CURTAIN

23:26 - DOT ORG TO SEE WHERE THE

23:28 - WAYSIDE CZAR. WE HAVE ONE OF

23:30 - THE ALRIGHT HOUSE WHERE THEY

23:31 - HAVE 3 INCH ORDINANCE AND A

23:33 - 12 POUND HOWITZER. AND THEN

23:36 - THEY PUT 4 PARA CANNES THAT

23:37 - THEY GOT FROM ELROY IN

23:38 - WINCHESTER UNION. WORST AT THE

23:41 - PEACE CHURCH OF SAINT JOHN'S

23:42 - AND TURNED IT. SO FOR 2 DAYS

23:45 - YOU HAVE SCORING WITH THE UNION

23:47 - MILITIA. HOW MANY COOPER WAS

23:49 - HEADCOUNT THE FIELD?

23:51 - AND THERE WERE SEVERAL 1000 NEW

23:54 - NONETHELESS AMASSED AROUND

23:55 - HERE. WE DON'T KNOW EXACT

23:56 - AGAIN. WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY

23:58 - HOW MANY WERE IN CERTAIN PLACES

24:00 - AND OYSTERS POINT.

24:01 - >>THEY USUALLY HAD A GENERALLY

24:02 - IT A LITTLE UNDER 1000. YOU

24:03 - HAVE 2 OR 3 REGIMENTS. WE HAVE

24:05 - A LINE OF SKIRMISHES OUT THERE

24:06 - IN AID SWAP. THE REGIMENT'S

24:08 - BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE FORT

24:09 - AND WHAT WAS ESSENTIALLY THEIR

24:11 - FRONTLINE, WHICH WAS OYSTERS

24:12 - POINT ABOUT A MILE MILE AND A

24:15 - HALF OUT FROM THE FORCE.

24:16 - WOULD YOU SAY YEAH, BECAUSE

24:17 - LIKE WHAT? 12,000 TOTAL, I

24:19 - THINK THEY SAY YEAH, I'M

24:20 - GENERALLY IN THE HARRISBURG

24:21 - AREA. HARRISBURG AREA.

24:23 - >>CAM CARDINAL MEN IN THERE

24:25 - AND THEN FROM THE RIVER TO

24:26 - WHERE THE SKIRMISHING FOR

24:27 - TODAY'S HAPPENED AT WORCESTER'S

24:29 - POINT, YOU HAD 12,000 NEW

24:32 - MILITIA FROM NEW YORK.

24:34 - PHILADELPHIA COURSE. WHILE

24:35 - THESE GUYS THEY'RE WORRIED

24:36 - ABOUT THEIR LIFE JUST LIKE WHEN

24:37 - JACOBS CAME IN ON SUNDAY, THEY

24:40 - PUT THEIR TORY TO SAIL CHURCH,

24:42 - WHICH IS STILL HERE. THAT SALE

24:44 - CHURCH ROAD ROUTE 11. THE NEW

24:46 - YORK TORY SHELLS ARE FLYING

24:47 - RIGHT HERE WERE SET TO GENERAL

24:50 - LIVES HERE WITH MILITIA AND

24:53 - THEY RAN THE COOPER FOUND THE

24:56 - CAR WHILE SEVERAL.

24:57 - >>WELL, THERE WAS A REPORT OF

24:59 - CITIZENS DIARRHEA AND I LOVE

25:01 - THE CITIZENS. HE SAID

25:03 - >>THEY THEY WALKED AS FAST AS

25:05 - THEY CAN RUN HAS THAT GIVES YOU

25:07 - AN IDEA? THERE ARE TRAINED.

25:08 - THEY LEFT ALL ALL SORTS OF IT'S

25:10 - GOING TO JUST CALM DOWN.

25:12 - THEY LET HIM BACK THE RIVER.

25:13 - I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GIVE

25:14 - EVERYBODY A BRIEF IDEA. OYSTERS

25:16 - POINT WAS IT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT

25:19 - THE PENNSYLVANIA DUTCH CALLED A

25:20 - ROAD FORK. IT WAS A POINT I

25:22 - HAPPEN TO TELL THEIR OWN BY THE

25:23 - OYSTER FAMILY. THERE'S ACTUALLY

25:25 - A NEW YORKER ROAD AS DIARY IT'S

25:27 - CALLED OYSTERS POINT. BUT I

25:28 - FIND OYSTERS YOU KNOW, THEY

25:31 - THEY CONFUSE SOME OF THE MEN,

25:33 - BUT THAT IS KIND OF THE FOCAL

25:34 - POINT WHERE THE UNION FORCES

25:35 - HAVE MASSED OUTSIDE OF 4

25:37 - WASHINGTON. THIS IS WHERE

25:38 - THEY'RE GOING TO. IT'S A ROAD

25:40 - INTERSECTION WHERE THE CARLISLE

25:41 - PIKE IN THE JOURNAL WROTE

25:42 - CONVERGE. SO THAT'S THAT MAKES

25:44 - A KEY. THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE

25:46 - GOING TO PUT UP A LITTLE BIT OF

25:47 - A FIGHT BEFORE THAT. THE MAIN

25:48 - CONFEDERATE FORCE ARRIVES AND

25:50 - THEY DON'T REALIZE THEY'RE

25:51 - GOING TO HAVE TO WITHDRAW BACK

25:52 - TO THIS GIVES JENKINS TIME TO

25:54 - RECKON ORDER AND CHECK OUT

25:55 - HARRISBURG'S THE FENCES.

25:57 - >>FOR TODAY'S HE'S DOING THIS

25:59 - NOW. WAS REPORTED HOTELS.

26:01 - PEOPLE LOOK TO KEEP US ALL AT

26:03 - THIS ROBE ROUGHLY ABOUT THE

26:05 - 3,000 BLOCK OF MARKET AND IT'S

26:07 - 4 MILES FROM THE RIVER.

26:11 - SO THEY GOT AS CLOSES. 28 THE

26:13 - MARKET, WHICH BACK THEN WAS

26:14 - CALLED WANT TO WEIGH IN ON 28TH

26:15 - STREET. AND IF YOU IT'S

26:17 - BASICALLY AN ALLY, IF YOU GO

26:18 - THERE TODAY, THERE'S A VERY

26:20 - OLD BORN IN THAT ALLEY. I LOVE

26:22 - TO RESEARCH THAT TO SEE IF

26:24 - THAT'S BECAUSE IT LOOKS 18 60'S

26:26 - AND THE CONFEDERATE SKIRMISHES

26:28 - WERE LINED UP ON THAT IN THAT

26:29 - ALLEY SHOOTING AT UNION TROOPS

26:31 - KILLED. TO MARKET, WHICH IS

26:33 - THERE. IT'S POST MISTER BOWMAN

26:34 - TOE AND HE'S UP THE ATTIC.

26:36 - AND HERE'S THE BULLETS. PINGING

26:37 - OFF THE SIDE OF THE HOME.

26:39 - IS FAMILIES IN THEIR LATER ONE

26:41 - OF THE CONFEDERATE SEVERAL

26:42 - WOUNDED THAT THE SKIRMISHING

26:43 - THEY HAD A BORN IN THE BACK

26:45 - OF THE ALBRIGHT OF BOWMAN HOLD

26:50 - A PREPAID HIS LEG BOWMAN'S

26:51 - BROTHER WAS A DOCTOR. HE SAID

26:53 - HE NEVER SAW CONFEDERATE NOT

26:54 - EVEN FLINCH. ANYONE WITH US ARE

26:56 - NEVER FLINCH. ONE GETTING IT

26:58 - THAT AP STATIONED. AND IT WAS

27:00 - JUST AMAZED THAT THAT.

27:01 - >>WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT

27:03 - MILITIA. I THINK THAT'S

27:04 - IMPORTANT TO SET THAT ASIDE.

27:06 - IT TELL US MILITIA AND WHAT

27:08 - SEPARATES IT FROM THE REGULAR

27:09 - ARMY. WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE

27:11 - BEFORE THE WAR, THE UNITED

27:12 - STATES REGULAR YOU JUST CALL

27:14 - THE UNITED STATES ARMY. THAT

27:16 - IS THE REGULAR PEACE TIME FORCE

27:20 - THAT IS OUT THERE AT THE

27:21 - BEGINNING OF THE CIVIL WAR.

27:22 - THERE'S ALL SORTS OF FIGURES,

27:23 - BUT IT'S USUALLY ABOUT 16,000

27:24 - MEN IN THE U.S. ARMY.

27:26 - OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH

27:27 - TO FIGHT THE WAR AGAINST THE

27:28 - CONFEDERACY AND THAT THEY'RE

27:29 - SPREAD OUT OUTPOST ALL OVER

27:31 - THE AMERICAN WEST. SO THAT'S

27:33 - WHEN THEY BEGAN RECRUITING THE

27:34 - VOLUNTEER ARK VOLUNTEER ARMY IS

27:37 - PRETTY MUCH HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE

27:38 - 71ST, PENNSYLVANIA, ALL THOSE

27:40 - REGIMENTS, THE 20TH, MAINE.

27:42 - THOSE ARE VOLUNTEER UNITS.

27:43 - THEY USUALLY HAVE VOLUNTEERED

27:44 - THEIR TITLE. A PENNSYLVANIA HAD

27:46 - AN ORGANIZED MILITIA SYSTEM

27:47 - BEFORE THE WAR. HOWEVER, THAT

27:49 - WAS WE USE THE TERM LOOSELY HAD

27:53 - 20 DIVISIONS ON PAPER. IT WAS

27:55 - MORE OF A SOCIAL CLUB. YOU GET

27:57 - YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU GO FIRE AT

27:58 - A TREE. I DIDN'T GO TO THE BAR

28:00 - AND GIVE TOAST UNTIL YOU WERE.

28:02 - I'M DRUNK OUT OF YOUR MIND.

28:03 - THAT WAS THE PENNSYLVANIA

28:04 - MILITIA SYSTEM IN THE DECADES

28:06 - LEADING UP TO THE CIVIL WAR.

28:07 - MOST OF THOSE MEN WHO ARE

28:08 - ALREADY ACTIVE IN THE SEMI WAS

28:10 - A MILITARY ORGANIZATION

28:13 - 18. 61 LINCOLN CALLS FOR

28:15 - VOLUNTEERS. THEY IN LESS THAN

28:16 - A VOLUNTEER UNIT THAT ONE OF

28:18 - THE THEY'RE USUALLY THE FIRST

28:19 - PEOPLE TO DO THAT. SO COME 18

28:21 - 63 WHEN JOE HOOKERS BACK

28:24 - VIRGINIA WITH THE ARMY TELL

28:25 - MICK LEE GETS A HEAD START.

28:27 - WHO IS GOING TO OFFEND

28:28 - PENNSYLVANIA? THERE'S NO

28:29 - MILITIA SYSTEM LEFT. SO IN THE

28:31 - NEW YORK STATE NATIONAL GUARD,

28:33 - WHICH ORGANIZED SYSTEM, THEY'RE

28:34 - NOT WELL LIT. THEY'RE NOT WELL

28:36 - TRAINED OR EXPERIENCED, BUT

28:37 - THEY'RE ORGANIZED MORE THAN ON

28:39 - JUST ON PAPER. THEY COME FROM

28:41 - NEW YORK PRINCIPALLY DOWN HERE

28:43 - TO THEY DON'T GET ALONG WITH

28:46 - THE CITIZENS OF ALL. THERE'S

28:47 - ALL THESE FIGHTS. THE RAMPAGING

28:48 - HOMES BUT

28:51 - NEW YORKERS WILL BE THE

28:52 - PRINCIPAL DEFENDERS OF

28:53 - HARRISBURG. THEY'LL BE THE ONES

28:54 - FIGHTING HERE AT SPORTING HILL.

28:56 - SO THEY NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS

28:59 - THERE OR NOT. WELL WHAT ONE

29:01 - NATIONAL GUARDSMAN HIMSELF

29:02 - ADMITTED THAT THE ONLY TIME

29:04 - THEY'RE GENERALS REALLY WERE

29:06 - HAD PRACTICE. THEY PUT ON THEIR

29:07 - SPECTACLES TO READ THE ORDERS

29:09 - TO GO ON FOR A ON 4TH OF JULY.

29:12 - YOU HAVE SOME PENNSYLVANIA

29:13 - MILITIA SUPPLEMENTING THIS

29:14 - FORCE, BUT IT IS NOT THEY DO

29:16 - NOT COME SO VERY LATE. THERE

29:19 - ARE BUMBLE CALLS BY GOVERNOR

29:20 - CURTAIN.

29:22 - AND SOME MEN FEAR THEY'RE GOING

29:23 - TO BE TRAPPED AND SERVING FOR

29:25 - THE ENTIRE WAR. SO MOST OF THE

29:26 - PENNSYLVANIA IS THEY'LL COME

29:27 - OUT TO LAUGHTER JUNE. 26 TO

29:29 - HAVE A FUSE TO PENNSYLVANIA

29:31 - REGIMENTS AT OYSTERS POINT.

29:32 - A LOT OF PENNSYLVANIA BATTERY

29:34 - HERE AT SPORTING HILL. BUT THE

29:35 - MAJORITY OF THE TROOPS HERE

29:37 - IN THIS AREA WHEN THE

29:38 - CONFEDERATE SORRY, OUR NEW YORK

29:39 - NATIONAL GUARD.

29:40 - >>ONE OF THE ONE IN NEED

29:42 - STORIES WITH THE HEAT. A LOT OF

29:44 - NEW YORK TROOPS ARE VERY UPSET

29:46 - TO SEE ALL THE YOUNG

29:47 - PENNSYLVANIA BOYS. NOT BEEN

29:49 - LISTED YET, BUT THEN WITH

29:51 - CONFEDERATES ALL ALL OF

29:52 - PENNSYLVANIA BOYS, NOT UNLESS

29:54 - THEY GO, OH, MY GOSH, ARE IN

29:55 - TROUBLE. LOOK AT ALL THESE

29:55 - MASSIVE BARNES. ALWAYS

29:57 - INDUSTRY, ALL THESE YOUNG GUYS

29:58 - AND EVEN. AND LIST YET. AND THE

30:01 - NEW YORKERS WERE REALLY UPSET

30:03 - THEIR TRASH NOISE POINT HOTEL.

30:04 - THEY'RE THROWN BEDS OUT THE

30:05 - WINDOWS. LOOK FOR MONEY, SMEAR

30:07 - AND PRESERVES AND JAMS ON THE

30:09 - WALLS. THEY SONGS FOR THE FIRST

30:11 - TIME THEY THOUGHT THEIR

30:12 - CONFEDERATES WAS REPORTED THAT

30:14 - THEY HAD ITS POUNDS. PEOPLE HAD

30:15 - TO STOP HIM FROM SHOOTING AMISH

30:18 - THAT BACK THEM PRAYED. HATS

30:20 - WERE VERY COMMON IN THEIR WALK

30:21 - AROUND PARADE HAD TO BE FOUND.

30:22 - AND POLLY WAS HERS TAVERN THREW

30:24 - THAT OUT IT'S IT IT'S

30:28 - INTERESTING WHAT WE FOUND OVER

30:29 - THE YEARS OF RESEARCH. IN THIS

30:31 - AREA.

30:32 - >>NOW, FOR OUR PURPOSES HERE,

30:33 - EXPORTING HILL, THINGS REALLY

30:35 - START TO PICK UP WHATEVER

30:36 - ROBERT E LEE CALLS ALL OF U.S.

30:37 - FORCES TO COME TOGETHER AT

30:39 - GETTYSBURG. WE TALK ABOUT THAT.

30:41 - >>WHAT HAPPENS IS ROBERT E LEE

30:43 - COME UP OBVIOUSLY COME DOWN

30:45 - SHENANDOAH VALLEY INTO

30:46 - PENNSYLVANIA'S TO MENTION ROUND

30:48 - CHAMBERSBURG. THAT IS A PEEL

30:51 - LONG STREET. A ULA STRETCHED

30:53 - OUT YORK YORK, WRIGHTSVILLE

30:55 - AREA AS IT WITH EARLY AND THE

30:57 - REST OF HIS CORE OBVIOUSLY IS

30:58 - WE'RE TALKING ABOUT US HERE

30:59 - IN CARLISLE. CARLISLE,

31:01 - MECHANICSBURG AREA. WHAT

31:03 - HAPPENS IS LEE AS I AS MOST

31:07 - GETTYSBURG BUFFS NOW FOR THOSE

31:08 - IN JOE, THOSE WERE JUST

31:10 - GENERALLY INTERESTED. JEB

31:11 - STUART WAS LEAST CARRY

31:12 - COMMANDER THE EYES AND EARS OF

31:14 - HIS ARMY. IS IT HAS WRITTEN

31:17 - EAST OF THE EAST OF THE UNION

31:19 - ARMY. SO THE UNION ARMY IS

31:20 - BETWEEN JEB STUART AND ROBERT

31:22 - E LEE. SO JEB STUART AND THE

31:23 - MAIN CONFEDERATE CAVALRY FORCE

31:25 - THAT HAS STAYED TOGETHER CANNOT

31:28 - REPORT BACK TO LEE. SO LEE HAS

31:30 - LOST A LOT OF THE INTELLIGENCE

31:32 - HE WOULD NORMALLY GATHER.

31:33 - SO THE UNION ARMY IN A SENSE

31:34 - CAN SNEAK UP ON IT AND HE

31:36 - REALIZES.

31:39 - OH, MY DEAR THIS THERE IN

31:40 - MARYLAND AND HE DIDN'T EXPECT

31:42 - THEM TO BE UP THAT FAST.

31:43 - SO HE QUICKLY NEEDS TO

31:44 - CONCENTRATE AS ARMY THEIR

31:45 - STRONG ALL OVER THE PLACE.

31:47 - HE TELLS GENERAL YOU'LL ON JUNE

31:49 - 29TH CONCENTRATE IN GETTYSBURG

31:52 - CASH TOWN AREA.

31:54 - NOW THE INTERESTING PART ABOUT

31:56 - THIS IS

31:57 - THAT'S AROUND 1 O'CLOCK AS WE

31:59 - RECENTLY FOUND AT THE EXACT

32:00 - TIME ABOUT 1 O'CLOCK THE

32:01 - AFTERNOON IN JUNE, 29TH

32:03 - RICHARD, YOU'LL HAD HIS MEN

32:04 - LINED UP IN THE STREETS OF

32:05 - CARLISLE. TENSE. TENSE WERE

32:07 - STRUCK. THEY WERE READY TO

32:09 - MARCH ON HARRISBURG. THEY WERE

32:11 - READY TO START THE MARCH THAT

32:12 - AFTERNOON WHEN THEY RECEIVED

32:13 - THAT ORDER THEY GO BACK.

32:16 - IT'S TENSE. THEY HEAD BACK TO

32:17 - GETTYSBURG. 04:00AM FOLLOWING

32:19 - MORNING OF JUNE 30. IT SOUTH OF

32:21 - BALTIMORE PIKE. NOW HERE'S

32:23 - WHERE IT GETS VERY INTERESTING.

32:25 - YOU WOULD THINK THE STORY OF

32:26 - HARRISBURG IN THIS CAMPAIGN

32:27 - IS OVER, BUT IT'S NOT.

32:30 - DESPITE WHAT YOU WOULD BELIEVE.

32:32 - INEXPLICABLY GENERAL, YOU'LL

32:33 - FORGETS GENERAL JENKINS HERE ON

32:35 - THE WEST SHORE. A LOT OF

32:37 - HISTORIANS WILL DISPUTE THAT

32:38 - AND SAY HE WAS A REAR GUARD.

32:39 - I LIKE TO QUOTE ONE OF MY, YOU

32:42 - KNOW, I NEVER MET HIM. ONE OF

32:42 - MY STORE, THE MENTORS WILL

32:44 - BREAST NIGHT. WROTE THE BOOK,

32:46 - THE ORIGINAL BOOK IN THE

32:47 - 1960'S.

32:49 - WOO SAID AN INVISIBLE DECOYS

32:52 - KNOW DICK HOYT. JOHN JENKINS IS

32:54 - NOT THE DECOYS. IT IS BRIGADE

32:56 - WEST OF THE SILVER SPRING CREEK

32:58 - ABOUT A GOOD MILE, MAYBE A MILE

33:00 - AFTER THE WEST OF US ALL DAY

33:02 - ON JUNE. 30TH.

33:03 - GENERAL COUCH ON THE OTHER AND

33:05 - ACTUALLY HAS INTELLIGENCE THAT

33:07 - GENERAL, YOU'LL HAS WITHDRAWN

33:08 - FROM CARLISLE. HE IS A CITIZEN

33:10 - WHO WALKED BACK, TOLD THEM THE

33:11 - CONFEDERATES ARE MARCHING

33:12 - SOUTH.

33:13 - SO COUCH SEES AN OPPORTUNITY,

33:15 - SAYS LET'S SEND A BRIGADE OUT

33:16 - THERE. SEE WHAT CONFEDERATE ARE

33:18 - LEFT. THEY WEAKEN, SCOOP HIM

33:19 - UP, CAPTURE HIM. GET SOME GOOD

33:20 - HEADLIGHT. AND HE SENDS OUT

33:22 - GENERAL JOHN U.S. FOR DAYS OF

33:25 - NEW YORK STATE NATIONAL

33:26 - GUARDSMEN COMING OUT HERE,

33:27 - SPORTING HILL ON THE 22ND.

33:29 - 37 NEW YORK STATE NATIONAL

33:30 - GUARD. THEY MARCH OUT THE

33:32 - CARLISLE PIKE. THEY DILLY DALLY

33:34 - MOST OF THE MORNING THEY SEND

33:35 - CARRY SCOUTS OUT HERE AND THEY

33:37 - CAN'T FIND A CONFEDERATE.

33:39 - THEY MUST BE GONE. THEY START

33:41 - TO HEAD BACK TO CAMP WHEN AGAIN

33:43 - SPEAK THEMA FORGETFULNESS.

33:47 - EXCUSE ME, THE HARRIS COUNTY

33:49 - FOR GENERAL U N RUN INTO

33:51 - CONFEDERATE SCOUTS JUST TO OUR

33:53 - WEST AND THE LITTLE TREE LINE

33:55 - OVER THERE. AND THERE'S A

33:57 - LITTLE BIT OF A SKIRMISH HERE.

33:59 - THE UNION CARRY SCOUTS TURN

34:00 - BACK AS FAST. THEY CAN RIDE

34:03 - OVERTAKE THE UNION VERDE AND

34:04 - SAY WE FOUND A CONFEDERATE.

34:07 - GENERAL YOU AND IS NOW POPE

34:09 - POSE WITH A BIG DECISION?

34:12 - DOES HE CONTINUE BACK TO CAMP

34:14 - FOR THE TURNAROUND LIKE HIS

34:15 - ORIGINAL ORDERS AND FIND A

34:18 - HE WILL ACTUALLY TURN TO A

34:19 - STAFF OFFICER GENERAL UN

34:20 - HIMSELF WAS HE WAS 8 NEW YORK

34:23 - BUSINESSMAN. HE WAS NOT IN

34:24 - GENERAL BY TRADE. HE WAS A

34:25 - NATIONAL GUARD GENERAL. YOU

34:27 - NEVER BEEN ABOUT. SO THIS WAS

34:29 - VERY NEW TO HIM. HE TURNS TO A

34:31 - 25 YEAR-OLD STAFF OFFICER NAMED

34:33 - RUFUS KING JUNIOR AND ASKED HIM

34:35 - WHAT TO DO. KING SAYS I THINK

34:38 - WE OUGHT TO GO OUT AND GET THE

34:38 - REBELS. THE COLUMN IS

34:40 - GRUMBLING. THEY WANT LUNCH.

34:42 - THEY TURN AROUND THE COME HERE

34:43 - TO SPORTING HILL. THEY ARRIVE A

34:45 - LITTLE TO EAST AROUND 03:30PM,

34:48 - IN THE AFTERNOON.

34:50 - MEANWHILE, JENKINS, AS ALL THIS

34:52 - IS GOING ON THE CONFEDERATE TO

34:53 - GO INTO A TAILSPIN. JENKINS

34:55 - REALIZES THAT YOU'LL IS NO

34:57 - LONGER IN CARLISLE. I CAN

34:58 - IMAGINE FOR JENKINS MOSTLY COME

35:00 - AS A SHOT. YOU HAVE 15,000

35:03 - COUNTRY ONE DAY IN CARLISLE.

35:06 - HERE WE'RE IN THE NEXT DAY.

35:07 - THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST VANISHED

35:08 - OFF THE MAT.

35:10 - HE QUICKLY SEES WHAT'S

35:11 - HAPPENING WHEN HE HEARS THAT

35:12 - THEIR UNION TROOPS COMING

35:13 - AROUND COMING UP TOWARDS THEM.

35:15 - HE SENDS THE 14TH. VIRGINIA HAS

35:16 - ONE OF HIS LARGEST REGIMENTS

35:18 - BACK TO CARLISLE. TO HOLD HIS

35:20 - BASE, TOO. SO HE CAN'T GET CUT

35:22 - OFF.

35:23 - EVENT SENDS ABOUT 300 MEN GIVE

35:26 - OR TAKE A FEW OUT TO THE SITE

35:28 - HERE SPORTING ALI TELLS A

35:31 - LIEUTENANT COLONEL VINCENT,

35:32 - WHICH ARE

35:33 - A FAN OF THE 34TH VIRGINIA

35:35 - COUNTY BATTALION TO, QUOTE,

35:37 - HOLD AT ALL HAZARDS.

35:39 - JENKINS BELIEVES THAT COUCHES

35:40 - ENTIRE FORCES COMING OUT TO GET

35:42 - HIM. SO HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF

35:43 - YOUR VINCENT, WHICH ARE THEIR

35:44 - COMMANDER GIVES YOU 300 MEN GO

35:46 - OUT THERE, HOLD ALL HAZARDS.

35:48 - I THINK THERE'S 10,000 MEN

35:49 - COMING OUT AND THIS GOES INTO

35:52 - THE THING WE'RE WEEK. WE

35:53 - UNDERSTAND THAT JENKINS WAS

35:55 - NOT RETREATING. HE WAS WAITING

35:57 - FOR YOU TO COME UP BECAUSE HE

35:58 - HAD HIS FORCES SPREAD OUT ALL

36:00 - OVER THE AREA. ONE THING THAT

36:04 - STATE ARCHIVES A COUPLE YEARS

36:06 - AGO AS I WENT AND LOOKED AT

36:07 - THE DAMAGE CLAIMS RESIDENTS

36:10 - AND THEY SPIKED DRAMATICALLY ON

36:11 - JUNE. 30TH, WHICH TELLS US THAT

36:13 - THE CONFEDERATES ARE PREPARING

36:14 - FOR WITHDRAWAL. THEY'RE NOT CAM

36:16 - RIGHT THERE OUT SCAVENGING THE

36:19 - I THINK YOU WANT TO ADD JIM.

36:25 - >>TO HELP PEOPLE SORT OF

36:26 - UNDERSTAND WHERE THINGS ARE.

36:28 - JAKE INS THE CONFEDERATE

36:32 - GENERAL 16 FERGUSON.

36:35 - THE ROUTE ROUTE 11 CARLISLE

36:38 - PIKE. THIS SILVER SPRINGS CREEK

36:41 - WITH THE MAJORITY OF THEIR MAN.

36:43 - AND THEN WHICH ARE IS CLOSE BY

36:46 - THE BOARD. WELL, THE PROBABLY

36:47 - ABOUT THE PRESENT DAY. 51 5200

36:51 - BLOCK CARLISLE PIKE.

36:55 - YOU PRETTY HAVE COVERED

36:57 - EVERYTHING. SO WE HAVE

37:00 - >>TO FORCES IN POSITION.

37:01 - THE BATTLE IS UPON US. TAKE

37:03 - US THROUGH THE BATTLE OF COURT.

37:04 - >>WELL, WHAT HAPPENS AT 3.30,

37:06 - JON UN'S MATT ARE COMING UP

37:07 - THE PIKE. ALL OF A SUDDEN I

37:09 - HEAR CRACKS AND POPS AND THEY

37:12 - SEE PUFFS OF SMOKE FROM THIS

37:13 - BARN. THE BARN WAS THE MOST

37:15 - EVERY BAR AT THE TIME. OFTEN

37:16 - MISTAKEN FOR MCCORMICK BARN

37:18 - BEHIND US IS THE MOST EVERY

37:20 - HOUSE WHICH DATES BACK TO THE

37:21 - 17 9. STILL MCCORMICK FOR THIS

37:23 - TO BECOME THE MCCORMACK OR

37:24 - UNTIL 18, 64.

37:27 - YEAH. THAT'S WHY A LOT OF

37:28 - PEOPLE CONFUSE WITH EVERY

37:30 - REQUIREMENT IT WAS. IT'S THE

37:32 - EVERLY BAR. I JUST SAY THE

37:33 - MCCORMICK IS A LOT OF PEOPLE

37:34 - IDENTIFY WITH THAT LOCALLY AS

37:38 - WHAT'S HAPPENING IS JON UN'S

37:39 - MEN ARE COMING UP. THEY'RE

37:41 - FIRED UPON. THEY LAY DOWN THEIR

37:42 - STOMACHS IN THE CARLISLE PIKE.

37:44 - JOHN YOO AND IS KIND OF FROZEN

37:45 - AGAIN. HE IS NOT QUITE HE'S

37:48 - NOT THE MILITARY PROWESS.

37:49 - HE'S AS MILITARY EXPERIENCE

37:51 - ESSENTIALLY CONFINED 4TH OF

37:52 - JULY PARADES.

37:55 - HE SAYS A LITTLE FEW SKIRMISHES

37:56 - OUT TO THE RIDGE KIND OF

37:58 - APPROACH THE BARN. OTHERS

38:00 - TRADING FIRE BACK AND FORTH OF

38:01 - THE NOT GOING TO BE MUCH, MUCH

38:03 - DAMAGE. THE VETERANS.

38:05 - GENERAL UN REMAIN STATIONARY.

38:06 - THESE LITERALLY FROZEN IS JUST

38:09 - SITTING THERE OBSERVING ABOUT

38:10 - NOT SURE WHAT TO DO. AT THIS

38:12 - JUNCTURE. THE CONFEDERATES.

38:14 - WHEN HE WAS LIEUTENANT COLONEL

38:16 - WHAT YOUR WAS BACK A COUPLE

38:18 - 100 YARDS TO OUR WEST. AND

38:19 - LEAH, WHAT IS NOW WHAT WAS

38:21 - CALLED THAT BLINDS GROWTH IS

38:23 - NOW AN OFFICE BUILDING A

38:24 - RESTAURANT. HE WILL CROSS THE

38:26 - CARLISLE PIKE TO THE SOUTH

38:27 - SIDE. A GROVE OF WOODS.

38:31 - I IN MY BOOK I CALL US NAVY'S

38:32 - WOODS AND BECAUSE IT WAS THE

38:33 - PROPERTY OWNER.

38:35 - AND THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO

38:36 - TRY TO FLANK THE UNION TROOPS

38:38 - ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE FIGHT.

38:40 - GENERAL, YOU WANT TO GET HE

38:41 - MUST HAVE SEEN THESE GUYS CROSS

38:42 - THE PIKE IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.

38:43 - HE REMAINS FROZE. IT ONCE

38:45 - AGAIN. THAT STAFF OFFICER

38:46 - LIEUTENANT RUFUS KING JUNIOR

38:48 - JUMPS TO THE RESCUE AND SENDS 2

38:50 - COMPANIES ON HIS OWN

38:51 - RESPONSIBILITY SOUTH OF THE

38:53 - PIKE. THEY DRIVE THE

38:54 - CONFEDERATES OUT OF THE WOODS.

38:56 - THEY ARE NOW ALMOST STRAIGHT

38:59 - DOWN THE CONFEDERATE LOT IN

39:00 - THE WOODS AND THE BATTLE BIG

39:04 - AS THOSE 2 COMPANIES REMAIN

39:05 - OUT THERE VERY FAR TOWARDS THE

39:07 - BETTER POSITION. GENERAL YOU

39:09 - AROUND 04:00PM DEPLOYS THE 37TH

39:11 - YORK WHERE WE ARE ON THE NORTH

39:12 - SIDE OF THE PIKE. 3 COMPANIES,

39:14 - THE 22ND WITH THEM AND THE REST

39:16 - OF THE 22ND NEW YORK ON THE

39:18 - SOUTH SIDE OF THE PIE, THE 22ND

39:20 - YORK LINES UP ALMOST DIRECTLY

39:22 - TO OUR SOUTH. SO MUCH SO VERY

39:24 - POORLY PLACE THAT THEY'RE

39:25 - FLANKED IS OPEN TO US HERE IN

39:27 - THE BARN. YOU CAN IMAGINE THE

39:28 - CONFEDERATE SPY RING DOWN THE

39:30 - LENGTH OF THEIR LIGHT.

39:32 - SO THEY PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO LAY

39:33 - WE FEEL THEY CAN'T RETURN FIRE.

39:36 - THERE ARE. AND AS A FACING US,

39:37 - THEY CAN'T. THEIR LINE IS WEST.

39:40 - SO IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR

39:42 - THEM. THEY ARE PINNED DOWN.

39:44 - MEANWHILE, A STRAIGHT FROM THE

39:46 - BAR HERE YOU HAVE 37 NEW YORK

39:48 - IN THE 3 COMPANIES OF THE 22ND

39:50 - BY FAR THE LARGEST UNION FORCE

39:52 - IN THE FIELD, THEY BEGAN

39:53 - APPROACHING BUT THE BARN, BUT

39:55 - I'M OBVIOUSLY HAD AN UPPER ONE

39:57 - UPPER STRUCTURE. THE

39:58 - CONFEDERATE ARE UP THERE.

39:59 - THEY CAN SEE THE MOVEMENTS OF

40:00 - THESE FORCES BEFORE THEY CREST

40:02 - THE RIDGE IN FRONT OF US.

40:04 - SO AS THE UNION SOLDIERS CREST,

40:05 - THE RIDGE ABOUT 26300 YARDS

40:09 - AWAY FROM US, THEY ALREADY KNOW

40:10 - THEY'RE COMING AND THEY OPEN UP

40:12 - A VOLLEY ON THE FORCE. THEY

40:14 - STRIKE LIEUTENANT THE NECK.

40:15 - THEY EVEN STRIKE AND GENTLE

40:16 - BOY, THE CAT. BUT THESE UNION

40:18 - FORCE ARE PINNED OUT. THE 37

40:20 - NEW YORK BECOMES VERY

40:21 - FRIGHTENED. MAY HAVE NEVER BEEN

40:22 - ABOUT BEFORE. MOST OF THESE

40:24 - MEN, I SHOULD SAY IT.

40:26 - AND EVENTUALLY GENERAL UN WILL

40:28 - ACTUALLY GET A COMPANY, THE

40:29 - 22ND TO USE BAYONETS TO FORCE

40:32 - THEIR OWN MEN DOWN TO THE

40:33 - BOTTOM OF THE BUT THEY WILL GO

40:35 - ON THE ROUTE HEARING THIS

40:37 - THREAT. THEY WILL GO ON THE

40:38 - ROUTE. SO THIS KIND OF BATTLES

40:40 - IN THIS LITTLE STALEMATE.

40:42 - THEN LIEUTENANT COLONEL, WHICH

40:43 - ARE OPENS A SURPRISE. HE HAS 2

40:46 - GUNS BACK IN LINES GROW.

40:47 - HE STARTS FIRING ARTILLERY THE

40:49 - UNION SOLDIERS ARE QUITE SURE

40:51 - WHAT TO THINK OF US. AND THEY

40:51 - ARE RUNNING SOME OF THE

40:54 - COMPANIES IN THE 22ND THAT ARE

40:56 - UP HERE ON THE SIDE OF THE PIKE

40:57 - DART TO THE SOUTH SIDE. THEY

40:59 - BEGAN SHOOTING OVER THERE AT

41:01 - WHERE THE 2 COMPANIES, THE 22ND

41:03 - WERE FAR OUT IN ADVANCE OF THE

41:05 - REST OF THE UNION FORCES ARE.

41:08 - THERE WAS A GROUP OF CARRY OVER

41:09 - THERE, TOO. SCOTT BATTLE BACK

41:12 - TO THE CALL BACK TO WHAT IS NOW

41:14 - SPORTING HILL ROAD WILL NOT BE

41:16 - SEEN FOR THE REST OF THE

41:16 - BATTLE. SO THESE UNION TROOPS

41:18 - ARE ACTING AM. AND TO GIVE YOU

41:20 - AN IDEA OF KIND OF THEIR

41:22 - INNOCENCE. I LIKE THE KIND OF

41:23 - JOHN IRVINE MURRAY WAS A

41:25 - PRIVATE OUT THERE AND THAT

41:26 - WOODS, HE SAYS THAT HE LOOKED

41:28 - OVER TO THE CONFEDERATE

41:29 - POSITION. YOU CAN SEE IF HE

41:30 - WAS THAT CLOSE. HE SAW SMOKE.

41:32 - WE THOUGHT THEY WERE MAKING A

41:34 - A CAMPFIRE WHILE WAS CAN'T AND

41:37 - SUNNI BRANCH STARTED FALLING

41:38 - AROUND TO MANY REALIZE THEY

41:40 - WERE UNDER ARTILLERY FIRE.

41:42 - BUT IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE

41:43 - INNOCENCE OF THESE MEN WHO

41:44 - VAPE. THEY THOUGHT, OH, IT'S

41:45 - A COOKOUT. THEY DIDN'T REALIZE

41:48 - THEY WERE GOING TO BE A SHOW.

41:50 - AROUND 6, 1, 4, 6 O'CLOCK THAT

41:52 - EVENING I'M A UNION BATTERY

41:55 - ARRIVES TO GUNS FROM A

41:56 - PHILADELPHIA LIGHT ARTILLERY

41:58 - UNIT. THEY FIRED. THEY BEGAN

41:59 - LOADING. THEY'RE GONNA CAP.

42:01 - AND WHEN THIS HAPPENED, LANA

42:05 - NEWS FOR JOHN RATTLES THE

42:06 - FAMOUS GENERAL LAW. I WROTE

42:08 - RATHER LOVED HIM.

42:09 - >>LANDIS BATTERY COME OUT HERE

42:11 - AND THE FIRST MEMBERS, COUPLE

42:15 - 100 DIAGONAL FROM US. THEY

42:18 - TRAIN THEIR SIDE ON THE BARN

42:19 - WHERE THE CONFEDERATES ARE.

42:20 - THERE'S ABOUT 50 OR SO

42:21 - CONFEDERATES BEING REALLY PESKY

42:22 - ALL ENTERING THIS BATTLE IN

42:24 - THIS BAR. AND THEY BEGIN

42:26 - LOADING. THE CANOPY WAS FIRST,

42:27 - WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY BACKWARDS

42:29 - AND LEADS TO A PREMATURE

42:30 - EXPLOSION. SO ONCE AGAIN, WE

42:32 - HAVE THIS LIEUTENANT RUFUS KING

42:34 - JUNIOR BEING THE SAVIOR.

42:35 - HE COMES IN THE YEAR. HE'S

42:36 - GETTING A QUICK ARTILLERY

42:37 - LESSON. THEIR FIRST SHOT WOULD

42:40 - EXPLODE RIGHT ABOVE OUR HEADS.

42:42 - A LITTLE TO OUR LEFT SQUARE IN

42:44 - THE CENTER OF THE BAR KILLING

42:46 - PROBABLY ABOUT A DOZEN

42:47 - CONFEDERATES AND THE REST.

42:48 - THE CONFEDERATES WILL SHUFFLE

42:50 - OUT OF THE BARN AND HAD BACKED

42:52 - GOOD 500 YARDS TO OUR REAR WORK

42:53 - LINES, GROVE, IT. SO THAT IS

42:56 - EFFECTIVELY THE END OF THE

42:57 - SKIRMISH TO SKIRMISH MUSKET

42:59 - FIRE OF THIS BATTLE.

43:02 - THEN IN COMES INTO OUR

43:02 - ARTILLERY DUEL BETWEEN

43:04 - JACKSON'S A CAN OR TORY, THE

43:06 - CONFEDERATE BACK IN THE ACT,

43:08 - WINDS GROVE AND THE UNION

43:10 - ARTILLERY, WHICH IS ONLINE

43:11 - BRING IN THE PIKE AND TO OUR

43:14 - EAR.

43:15 - >>YEAH, BECAUSE IT THERE TORRI

43:17 - POSITION FOR UNION MILITIA

43:20 - TODAY WOULD SPORTING HILL ROAD

43:23 - AND THE NORTHWEST QUARTER

43:26 - CARLISLE PIKE IN THAT FACILITY.

43:28 - GIVE PEOPLE AN IDEA

43:30 - THERE WAS AFTER THE SKIRMISH

43:33 - WAS OVER. OF COURSE, THE PAPERS

43:34 - CALL THE BATTLE RIGHT ALONG

43:37 - ROUTE PRESENT-DAY ROUTE 5 8111

43:40 - WAS A CONFEDERATE CEMETERY TO

43:42 - 18. 95 AND JOHN HEIZER WHO

43:45 - HELPED COOPER WITH SALT.

43:47 - THE MAPS IN HIS BOOK. I THINK

43:49 - RESEARCH TO PROVE THAT IN 20

43:52 - SOME YEARS AGO, AN ELDERLY MAN

43:53 - THAT LIVED HERE IN THE BORDER

43:56 - WORLD WAR, 2 EVEN POINTED OUT

43:58 - WHERE THE CONFEDERATE BODIES

43:59 - WERE PLACED. SO WE DEFINITELY

44:02 - HAVE SOME 2 GOOD SOURCES TO

44:03 - SHOW WHERE THE CEMETERY WAS

44:05 - 16, 16 BETTER FORECASTS AROUND

44:08 - 20 TO

44:10 - >>THERE ARE A NUMBER OF A

44:12 - GRADES FOUND ON THE WAY BACK TO

44:13 - CARLISLE BY TRIPS. THE BALL AND

44:15 - A PILOT PROBABLY INDICATES

44:17 - THERE WERE MORE WE GO TO THE

44:18 - BETTER TO DIE ALONG THE WAY

44:19 - BACK.

44:21 - >>I WAS SORT OF A POST-MORTEM

44:23 - OF THE BATTLE WHO WINS AND WHY

44:26 - IS IT STILL IMPORTANT?

44:27 - >>I'LL TAKE THIS ONE JET WELL.

44:30 - IT'S

44:31 - IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAVE A

44:33 - LOOK AT THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN.

44:35 - SO MANY PEOPLE IS LOOK AT THE

44:36 - 3 DAYS AND OUT. WHEN YOU LOOK

44:40 - AT THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN, WE WAS

44:42 - AFTER HARRISBURG AND TO SEE

44:44 - THAT HIS TROOPS, CAIN AS CLOSE

44:48 - AS 20 FOOT MARK WITH JUST 3

44:50 - MILES FROM THE CITY. AND HE IS

44:52 - 15,000 CARLISLE. THEY WERE

44:54 - HEADED HERE BEFORE THE ORDER TO

44:56 - BACK. THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY.

44:58 - AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE

45:00 - CRACKS, WHEN PEOPLE SAY I

45:01 - WONDER WHAT STONEWALL JACKSON,

45:02 - ONE OF THE KEYS TO GETTING

45:04 - HURT. WE'RE HEARING NEVER BEEN

45:05 - TO GET IT.

45:06 - BECAUSE THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF

45:07 - YOU HAVE BEEN KILLED, THE

45:08 - CHANCES HE'LL HERE HAVE BEEN IN

45:10 - CHARGE, THE CONFEDERATE FORCES

45:12 - ON THEIR WAY TO HARRISBURG AND

45:13 - A SLOW AS RICHARD WORKERS AND

45:15 - HASN'T IT STILL WOULD'VE BEEN

45:17 - UP HERE 2 DAYS EARLIER IN THE

45:19 - WHOLE HISTORY OF AMERICAN MONEY

45:20 - CHASED. YOU KNOW, USUALLY TELL

45:23 - PEOPLE THAT THEY COLD WATER

45:24 - INTERFACE. THEY GET OUT OF

45:25 - THERE 3 DAY STANDARD, STORIED

45:28 - GETTYSBURG AND START REALIZING

45:30 - THERE'S MORE TO THIS STORY

45:32 - BEFORE AND ALSO THE IMPORTANT

45:33 - PART, THE RETREAT FROM

45:34 - GETTYSBURG, WHICH NOBODY LOOKS

45:36 - AT THE BATTLE FALLING WATERS.

45:39 - IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT. REMEMBER

45:40 - THAT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS

45:42 - THE NORTHERNMOST ENGAGEMENT,

45:43 - GETTYSBURG CAMPAIGN. AND THIS

45:44 - IS AS FAR NORTH AS YOU HAVE

45:46 - ACTUAL FIGHTING.

45:47 - >>DURING THIS CAMPAIGN.

45:49 - >>IF VISITORS WANT TO SEE

45:50 - REMNANTS OF THE SKIRMISHES

45:51 - SPORTING HELL, LOOK AT THE SEA

45:52 - FOR THAT.

45:55 - >>IN THIS AREA WE HAVE THE

45:58 - ACTUAL BOARD, BUT IT IS PRIVATE

46:00 - PROPERTY. WE MUST RESPECT THAT.

46:03 - IT'S WELL MAINTAINED CONTROL

46:05 - PRIVATE PROPERTY LOCATED JUST

46:08 - OFF ROUTE 11 IN HAMPTON

46:09 - TOWNSHIP.

46:11 - SO IT'S TOUGH ACTUALLY GETTING

46:13 - RIGHT ON THE SITE. THERE IS

46:16 - OTHER THINGS AS PART OF FORT

46:18 - COUCH WITH A BEAUTIFUL

46:19 - MONUMENT. THERE ARE 2 BIG 12 BY

46:21 - 8, 6 BLACKSTONE MONUMENT.

46:24 - PEOPLE CAN SEE THERE IS THE

46:26 - PEACE CHURCH. IT THE SALE OF

46:28 - THE CHURCH. THE ALBRIGHT HOUSE.

46:33 - >>PRESENT-DAY LIBRARY

46:34 - MECHANICSBURG.

46:36 - >>WHICH IS HOSPITAL WHILE THERE

46:38 - ARE TORY POSITIONS, THE

46:39 - BUILDINGS ARE STILL HERE.

46:42 - THERE

46:45 - PART 4 COUNTS, NOT REALLY ALL

46:48 - THAT MUCH, BUT THEY CAN SEE

46:49 - THAT TOO. ALSO WHEN YOU GO UP,

46:51 - SLATE HILL, THE TOP OF SAINT

46:54 - JOHNS LIZ BURD, PERSONAL BORN

46:57 - WHERE JENKINS, IT'S 60 OF HIS

46:59 - MEN WENT BEHIND THAT BORN TO

47:02 - OVERLOOK THE FORTIFICATIONS

47:04 - OF HARRISBURG AND ITS WEST

47:05 - SHORE WHILE THE SKIRMISHING IN

47:07 - WAS FIRST QUAKE WAS GOING ON

47:09 - SUNDAY AND MONDAY. SO THAT

47:11 - BOARD IS STILL THERE. ALSO,

47:12 - I KNOW THAT THERE BROCHURES,

47:15 - THE CUMBERLAND VALLEY VISITORS

47:16 - BUREAU TO HELP THESE ONLINE

47:20 - SHOWING WERE ALL THESE

47:21 - POSITIONS ARE. IT'S CALLED THE

47:22 - WEST WITH THE WESTSHORE

47:24 - INVASION BROCHURE. SO IF YOU

47:25 - LOOK UP COAL VALLEY, VISITORS

47:27 - BUREAU, I'M SURE THEY WOULD

47:29 - LOVE TO MILLION THOSE. ALSO.

47:30 - I HAVE FOR HIM AT MY STORE LIKE

47:33 - THAT SHOW WHERE THE WAYSIDE,

47:34 - SOME MONUMENTS ARE TO HELP YOU.

47:37 - IT'S DEFINITELY COULD KILL.

47:38 - AND GOOD AFTERNOON. WE'RE OUT

47:39 - HERE PUSHING GOT THE NATIONAL

47:41 - CIVIL WAR MUSEUM, THE BUSINESS.

47:42 - SO YOU GOT TODAY. THESE WERE.

47:44 - >>ON THAT NOTE, I'D LIKE TO

47:45 - THANK MY GUESTS, COOPER WINGER

47:47 - AND JIM SMITH FOR JOINING US

47:48 - TODAY. AS ALWAYS, IF YOU HAVE

47:50 - QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DAYS OF

47:51 - RECOMMENDATION FOR FUTURE

47:53 - EPISODES OF BATTLEFIELD

47:54 - PENNSYLVANIA WAS VISIT OUR

47:55 - WEBSITE AT PCN TV DOT COM WHERE

47:58 - EVERYBODY HERE A BATTLEFIELD,

47:59 - PENNSYLVANIA, I'M BRADY FRIES

48:01 - ARE SAYING SO LONG.