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PA Supreme Court Session 2020-05-21

Issues include: marital property transferred to a trust; township supervisor conflict of interest; child abuse reports & accelerated rehabilitative disposition; Right-To-Know Law request compliance; real estate tax sale law right to redemption; and PA Unfair Trade Practices and Consumer Protection Law.

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00:02 - WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME

00:03 - EVERYONE TO A SESSION OF THE

00:06 - SUPREME COURT.

00:08 - IN LIGHT OF THE BECAUSE THAT

00:10 - RATIONING WE ARE CONDUCTING

00:12 - THIS SESSION REMOTELY.

00:14 - THE COURT FOUND THAT IT BEST TO

00:16 - PROCEED IN THIS MATTER.

00:18 - RATHER THAN CANCELING OR

00:20 - POSTPONING THE SESSION.

00:22 - BECAUSE IT IS VITAL THE COURTS

00:24 - CONTINUE TO FUNCTION. EVEN

00:26 - THE MOST IF A CALL OF TIME.

00:30 - TRADITION YORK OR DOES NOT

00:31 - IMPOSE TIME WITH

00:32 - SOME COUNCIL BUT DUE TO THE

00:35 - CIRCUMSTANCES WE HAVE DEVELOPED

00:37 - A

00:37 - SPECIAL PROTOCOL WHEN SHE'D

00:39 - BEEN FORWARDED ALL COUNCIL WHO

00:41 - WILL BE JOINING OUR.

00:45 - COUNCIL HAS BEEN ADVISED THE

00:46 - REACH OF THE WORLD

00:47 - 20 MINUTES. WE RESERVE THE

00:51 - BEGINNING ASPIRATION AT THE END

00:54 - FOR THE CLOSING REMARKS.

00:58 - AND ALTHOUGH WE WOULD ASK THE

01:01 - KEEP AN EYE ON A LAW CHANGE.

01:03 - I WERE GIVEN TREATMENT ARK AND

01:05 - ASKED HIM TO PROPERTY. THE.

01:08 - THE JUSTICES SEEMED MORE

01:10 - QUESTIONS. WE'LL POSE THEM

01:12 - MONEY RESET ORDER.

01:15 - IN ORDER TO ACCOUNT FOR MY

01:16 - FOCUS THEIR ATTENTION ON THE

01:18 - JUSTICE. ASKING THE QUESTION.

01:21 - FINALLY AS IS A WIN. I WILL

01:24 - BRIEFLY STATE THE CASE

01:26 - IN ORDER TO REFRAME THE ISSUE

01:27 - BEFORE IT WAS.

01:29 - AND MISTER MANNER WITH I WOULD

01:31 - YOU PLEASE CALL THE FIRST TAKE.

01:36 - HER STORY

01:36 - IS IN RE PASS REALLY FAMILY

01:38 - TRUST WILL OF OUR GREAT OR

01:42 - >>WAS A ARE YOU IN

01:45 - THE EYE. WE CHOSE OF US REALLY

01:48 - IS. ACTION. I WOULD ARGUE NOT

01:52 - LIKE THEM IS THAT YOU WATCH.

01:58 - THE COURTING OF MISTER CANNOT.

02:03 - >>THE CASE POLICIES

02:05 - TO TERMINATE MIRABEL

02:07 - CAN TRUST. SHE CREATED WITH

02:10 - EARLY. DURING THE MARY.

02:14 - THE PARTICULAR LEGAL

02:15 - QUESTION INVOLVED IS WHETHER

02:17 - THE APA LEE ACTED FRAUDULENTLY

02:20 - NEW DID NOT DISCLOSE THE NATURE

02:22 - OF CERTAIN

02:23 - MERRILL PROPERTY. IT WAS BEING

02:25 - TRANSFERRED THE TRUST.

02:30 - >>I THINK HE'S WHAT YOU JUST AS

02:32 - COOL SAILOR AND HE SAYS THE

02:34 - U.S..

02:35 - THAT IS ACCORDING TO JOHN

02:37 - MCCAIN ON COUNCIL WORK MARK HER

02:39 - ON HER ONLY BE FOUND.

02:42 - WE'RE HERE TODAY

02:42 - TO DISCUSS AN ISSUE FOR

02:44 - PATIENTS OF SECTION 7 SOME

02:46 - BURNED SINCE THE ACCIDENT.

02:48 - IT

02:48 - STATES INTERESTS, HE'S MORE

02:50 - DOUBLE NEWS SENT ITS MISSION

02:51 - AND THESE HER QUESTION HE

02:55 - WAS EXCELLENT WHO

02:56 - SAID ROD. YOU KNOW FROM THE

02:58 - OUTSET THAT THE STATUTE DOES

03:00 - NOT DIFFERENTIATE. YOU KNOW

03:01 - RELATABLE AND YOU ARE A COUPLE.

03:04 - BROOKS BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE.

03:07 - CLEARLY DID NOT DIFFERENTIATE.

03:09 - TO RECORD AND HAS A HOLD ITS

03:11 - OWN HOLDING GLOVER AND

03:13 - INTRODUCE A HEIGHTENED STATE

03:15 - COMES THROUGH EAST.

03:16 - THEY SLOWLY BACK THAT TRUST AND

03:18 - THAT'S IT. AS A HERO OR TRUST.

03:22 - WE'RE HUMANS AND

03:23 - WHETHER ME. WELL, MOSTLY

03:25 - BECAUSE CORPORATE.

03:27 - WHERE NECESSARY KNOW WE LIKE

03:29 - WHAT WE CAN DO IN THIS CASE.

03:32 - HERE WE HAVE A CASE WHERE

03:33 - HUSBANDS LIVING WHAT UNKNOWN

03:36 - TO. WHY AS AN ARTIST TO HOMES

03:39 - IN FLORIDA. ONE WHICH

03:41 - WHILE. PROGRAMS SOME LOOKS

03:44 - GREAT.

03:46 - BROWN WAS CASES THE

03:48 - PROPER DEGREE. AND THIS

03:50 - PRESIDENT SAYS THAT'S A REALLY

03:51 - KNOWN THESE FACTS SHE WOULD NOT

03:53 - HAVE SIGNED

03:53 - THE AGREEMENT GIVING HER

03:56 - HUSBAND WHO CONTROL THEM OR

03:57 - LESS. BUT THE CASE AND CALL FOR

04:01 - THE FAMILY. HE ONLY NEEDS THESE

04:04 - AWESOME SHIELD AGAINST WE

04:06 - SHOULD.

04:07 - THIS IS SPECIAL DO NOT HAVE

04:09 - ENOUGH WE DO NOT HURT THE HUNT

04:12 - FOR US.

04:15 - 1015 MEETING OF WHICH THIS IS A

04:16 - CRIME OR EVER.

04:19 - IN DOCUMENTS WERE GRANTED ONLY

04:20 - IN MY HUSBAND WAS PART OF YOUR

04:22 - JOURNEY. NO ONE COME ALL THE

04:25 - REQUESTS WAS IN COURT.

04:28 - COURT THEN THE SPURS REALLY

04:30 - WOULD SIGN ANY DOCUMENT.

04:33 - BACK 1000 SO CLOSE TO CALL.

04:36 - WITH REGARD TO THE LEVEL OF

04:37 - SCRUTINY. YOU BELIEVE, BUT ALSO

04:39 - SNEAKING BLOOMERS THE

04:42 - ELSE'S SITUATIONS.

04:43 - WE TRUST. HIS NEXT ONE AND NO

04:46 - NO TO SEAL IT RIGHT.

04:49 - AND SHE WOULD NOT SIGN THE

04:50 - TRUST WHICH HUMAN.

04:55 - HAS MADE HER A SHEEN NOT WARMER

04:57 - NOT LOSE YOUR.

04:59 - WELL THERE NICE WAY TO SIGN THE

05:02 - TRUST AGREEMENT WITH THE INTENT

05:03 - TO SCHOOL HIM MICHAEL

05:06 - IN AND YOU KNOW FOR ALL OF US.

05:09 - YESTERDAY IN NEW YORK

05:10 - FOR YOU. RESTATING HER PROPERTY

05:14 - WILL SOON PRESSERS WE'RE GOING

05:16 - TO YOU KNOW

05:17 - TURN TRANSPARENT WHICH

05:19 - HEARD BY ALL OF IT SAYS DOCTOR

05:21 - KNOWINGLY OR RECKLESSLY NEEDED

05:23 - MISREPRESENTS ITS. THE DONOR

05:26 - MATERIAL BLACK. IT WAS IN

05:28 - NEW YORK. THEY CAN TRANSFER

05:31 - THAT THE OWNER WOULD NOT

05:32 - OTHERWISE.

05:34 - >>THANK YOU

05:34 - MISTER MCKENNA THERE WILL BE

05:38 - WITH SAID JUST DESPAIR.

05:41 - >>I THANK YOU JUSTICE THAT BIG

05:44 - THE ONE OF THE IMPORTS IN THIS

05:46 - CASE, THE U.S. PERHAPS LESS

05:48 - THAN YOU IS WHAT'S THE

05:49 - APPROPRIATE HAS FOR FRAUD.

05:52 - SO.

05:53 - >>THIS APPEARED COURT SAID LOOK

05:55 - IF PAUL WHICH WAS OUR CASE.

05:57 - THEY SAID WELL THAT'S AN UNDUE

05:59 - INFLUENCE CASE AND THEREFORE

06:01 - THEIR DECISION AND GLOVER WAS

06:03 - RONI US BECAUSE ADOPTED A

06:05 - FRIED STANDARD. THE CHEMIST

06:07 - UPON AN UNDUE INFLUENCE.

06:09 - AND I'M CURIOUS OF YOUR VIEW IF

06:12 - YOU THOUGHT ABOUT

06:14 - WHAT THE TESTS SHOULD BE BEFORE

06:15 - WE TRY TO APPLY

06:16 - THE BEST. IF THE WEATHER IS

06:19 - CORRECT OR DISAPPEAR QUITE IS

06:21 - FINE.

06:22 - >>ID.

06:23 - >>POSITING THE TEST HERE

06:25 - AND THEIR THEIR ERROR YOUR VIEW

06:27 - WAS IN APPLYING IT.

06:29 - >>I THINK THAT

06:30 - IT'S TO CALL ITS FIRST THAT

06:31 - THEY THEY MADE A

06:33 - DIFFERENTIATION WE DIDN'T KNOW

06:34 - REMARKABLE CROSS. I WILL READ

06:37 - IT WON'T WORK THE STATUTE

06:38 - DOESN'T. SO I DON'T

06:40 - THEY THEY BASE THEIR NEED FOR A

06:42 - HIGH LEVEL OF SCRUTINY BASEMENT

06:45 - BACK TO THE REBEL.

06:47 - SINCE LEGISLATION WAS TO MAKE

06:49 - THIS QUEENS KNOW.

06:52 - >>YOU KNOW THIS PLACE.

06:53 - HOWEVER.

06:54 - >>WE DO BELIEVE THAT LOVER IS

06:57 - AND WAS THE LAW OF THE LAND WAS

06:58 - RETURNS TO SITUATIONS WHERE.

07:02 - >>THIS NOTION SHOULD

07:03 - BE MADE.

07:04 - >>AND THEIR TOP AND WE'RE NOT

07:06 - ME.

07:07 - >>IN 2 CITIES. WE.

07:10 - >>DON'T MORE. HE LEARNED HE

07:12 - ONLY TRUSTEE WHO SIGNED

07:15 - THE DOCUMENT IF THEY HAD KNOWN

07:17 - OF THAT FACT HE WOULD NOT SEND

07:19 - BUTTON AND THE COURTS OF GROUND

07:20 - THAT EVERYTHING ON HIM.

07:23 - >>LET ME LET ME INTERRUPT YOU

07:24 - BECAUSE TIME IS SHORT IN THIS

07:26 - FORMAT WITH COLLEGES THAT

07:29 - TRY TO GET TO IT IS THE

07:30 - MATERIAL MISREPRESENTATION HERE

07:33 - AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

07:36 - NO ONE SHOULD MAKE LIGHT OF

07:37 - THESE FACTS BUT AS THE MATERIAL

07:39 - MISS REPRESENTATION HERE

07:41 - AND HE HAD HIS GIRLFRIEND

07:43 - LIVING DOWN THERE

07:43 - AND ENCOUNTER OR THAT HE

07:45 - PURCHASED 2 HOMES IN FLORIDA IN

07:48 - L A

07:49 - OR BOTH.

07:49 - >>I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF

07:51 - THE 2 RUNNER AND I THINK

07:52 - BELIEVE IT THAT THIS ISN'T

07:54 - SOMEBODY WHO WAS SNEAKING

07:56 - AROUND AND GOING ONE TIME SHE

07:59 - ACTUALLY TOOK HER LAST

08:01 - PURCHASE THIS. HOUSE.

08:05 - >>RULE.

08:06 - >>A COMPANY THAT SHE

08:08 - OWNED SOLELY HYDE BACK SLOWS

08:11 - THE COMPANY'S VALUE. WE THINK

08:13 - THAT'S

08:13 - THE ROLE.

08:14 - >>SO IT'S NECESSARY. IT'S A

08:16 - MASK IF HE HAD SAID HE

08:18 - DISCLOSED THAT HE BOUGHT THESE

08:20 - TOO LONG, HE SAID

08:21 - YOU KNOW I I I THINK FLORIDA

08:23 - IS AN UPCOMING COMMUNITY HAVE

08:25 - AN OPPORTUNITY TO PICK UP 2

08:26 - HOUSES INEXPENSIVELY AND SHE

08:28 - SAID WHATEVER YOU THINK YOU

08:30 - COULD HEAR THE MONEY.

08:31 - STILL A MATERIAL

08:32 - MISREPRESENTATION BECAUSE

08:33 - NEGLECTED TO SAY THAT HE HAS A

08:35 - GIRLFRIEND LIVE IN THE WATER.

08:37 - >>I THINK IT'S THE SECOND THESE

08:38 - MARIJUANA SAYS HER KIDS

08:40 - EVEN THOUGH IT WAS THROUGH THE

08:41 - COMPANY THAT SOLD HIS COMPANY.

08:44 - ALSO IS THERE A LESSON. THERE'S

08:46 - A TRUST SET SO WE BELIEVE.

08:49 - >>THAT.

08:50 - >>WHAT

08:51 - I'M SAYING WHEN IT'S ALSO THE

08:53 - MOTIVATION FOR WHY HE WANTED TO

08:55 - MAKE IT A RATHER TRUST WHEN.

08:58 - CROSS AND SELL

08:59 - IT'S NOT AND NO TAX ADVANTAGE

09:01 - WAS LOST IN 19 O CONTROL LOOK

09:04 - FOR US. HE CONTROL ALL THE

09:07 - ASSETS IN BAYFRONT ALL AT ANY

09:09 - TIME.

09:10 - THERE'S NO. THERE'S NO I HAVE A

09:12 - GOOD RECORD THERE'S NO ON THIS

09:15 - DISCRETION IN THE HANDS.

09:17 - AND.

09:18 - >>YOU ALL RIGHT I JUST THE

09:22 - START.

09:23 - >>THANK YOU ARE.

09:24 - >>THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE.

09:27 - MISTER IT CANNOT I

09:28 - HAVE NO IT'S ALWAYS ON

09:32 - MISCONDUCT.

09:34 - >>SO PERCENT HAITIAN IN A

09:36 - MARRIAGE.

09:38 - >>IN CONNECTION WITH THIS

09:40 - SUMMER. PURCHASE SOME HOME IN

09:42 - FLORIDA WHERE MISTER A SON.

09:45 - HER FAMILY LIVES. MY PROBLEM

09:48 - WITH YOUR ARGUMENT IS

09:50 - I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT EQUATES

09:53 - TO FRAUDULENT INDUCEMENT THAT

09:55 - ENTER INTO THE TRUST.

10:01 - ACKNOWLEDGED I BELIEVE.

10:03 - HUSBAND DID NOT MISREPRESENT OR

10:06 - CORPUS

10:07 - OR US AND SHE WILLINGLY TO EARN

10:11 - HUSBAND'S

10:12 - FINANCIAL ACTION. AND IT'S NOT

10:15 - UNREASONABLE LEWD SHE WOULD

10:18 - HAVE SIGNED ON TO THAT FROST

10:20 - ENTERED INTO LAST WEEK OR SO

10:23 - I'D LIKE YOU TO LANNY A

10:27 - ME OR DISTINCTION BETWEEN

10:30 - HIS MISCONDUCT,

10:31 - BAD BEHAVIOR AND FRAUDULENT

10:34 - INDUCEMENT AND.

10:36 - >>I THANK YOU

10:38 - I DO SEE THAT THE THE AGAIN

10:40 - THAT WE BELIEVE MODEM

10:43 - INTENTION IS THIS CONTROL HERE.

10:47 - HIS INTENTION

10:49 - WAS MAKE SURE THAT WHEN SHE

10:52 - FINALLY TO POINT OUT THAT THIS

10:53 - IS WANT TO FIND OUT.

10:58 - THAT WE THAT HE WOULD

11:00 - USE THIS.

11:01 - TRUST THE TRIO WHO DISTRIBUTION

11:04 - FACT HE DID.

11:06 - DIDN'T SECOND POINT IS THAT

11:08 - THAT WE ALSO YOU CAN SEE ALL

11:10 - THESE AS IN SO HE DOESN'T TELL

11:13 - HER ABOUT THIS BECAUSE

11:15 - NEW

11:16 - AND THE MAN WHO LED $14 AND

11:19 - NEEDS TO BE. WELL THE PERSON HE

11:22 - KNEW GOING. WELL

11:23 - THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN KIND OF THE

11:25 - WORST.

11:27 - HE HAD CONTROL NO SENSE AND YOU

11:29 - KEEP YOUR HEAD. NO. NO THE

11:33 - YOU WILL. SO THE MOTIVE WAS

11:34 - EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. AND I

11:36 - THINK THAT WE THE FACT THAT YOU

11:39 - DISCLOSE THESE ASSETS IS

11:41 - ALL IS NOT OPEN TO

11:44 - MOON MODI HE'S HAVING A BARREL.

11:47 - HE'S TELLING US SEPARATELY AND

11:49 - HE SEES THAT SENSE.

11:52 - AND PUTS THE UNOCAL RATION SO

11:54 - YOU CAN'T YOU FIND OUT ABOUT

11:55 - WHAT'S IN THEIR INTEREST.

11:58 - I SIT WITH US. IT JUST SAYS OF

12:00 - ME. HERE'S

12:01 - WHAT'S WORK DOESN'T SAY THE

12:03 - GROUP SAYS HE'S LEADING THESE

12:05 - RISKS USE ME HE DIDN'T

12:06 - REPRESENT HE DIDN'T.

12:08 - >>PERCENT TO TOTAL

12:10 - FOR US.

12:11 - >>AND DID WHAT HE DID HE DID

12:13 - REPRESENT THE BOUNCE. HE SAID

12:15 - THAT IT'S WORTH 1.9 SOLID.

12:17 - HE DIDN'T SAY WAS IN.

12:19 - >>THE EXACT SET.

12:21 - >>THAT'S WHEN THE SLOW BY ALL.

12:23 - BUT

12:24 - ALL SAULT SAINT NE SOON YOU.

12:27 - HE'S HERE.

12:29 - BECAUSE HE HAD A PREORDAINED

12:32 - EASILY WANT TO CAUSE A LAWYER

12:34 - WHITEHEAD EXACTLY ONE HOUR YOU

12:36 - WILL NOT ONLY THAT ROSS.

12:38 - >>WELL.

12:39 - >>HER ATTORNEY TO HELP HER OUT

12:41 - AND.

12:42 - >>YEAH, I UNDERSTAND YOUR

12:44 - ARGUMENT THANK YOU.

12:46 - >>HE WAS A JUSTICE ON HERE.

12:48 - I'M GOOD MORNING COUNCIL.

12:50 - MY.

12:51 - >>IT IS AS I YOU KNOW READ THE

12:53 - TRANSCRIPTS IN YOUR GREASE ON

12:56 - YOU KNOW WHEN IT OCCURRED TO ME

12:57 - IS AND I'M ASSUMING YOU DID

12:58 - THIS INTENTIONALLY YOUR

13:00 - CONFLATING.

13:03 - >>OR

13:03 - OBSCURING WHAT YOUR CLIENTS

13:06 - ACTUAL PROBLEM IS WITH THIS

13:08 - TRANSACTION. AND AS I READ

13:12 - IT ON YOUR CLIENT'S COMPLAINT

13:14 - KID NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RAYS

13:17 - OF THE TRUST. IT HAS TO DO WITH

13:20 - THE FACT THAT OR

13:21 - HAS BEEN IN DISCLOSE THAT HE

13:24 - WAS INVOLVED IN AN EXTRAMARITAL

13:26 - AFFAIR.

13:27 - AND SO MY MY QUESTION TO YOU IS

13:29 - ON. I E. WHY.

13:34 - IN WITH THE

13:35 - APPROACH TAKEN

13:37 - TO ATTACK.

13:39 - THE NONDISCLOSURE OF THE

13:41 - PROPERTY IN ONE OF WELL HE'S AS

13:45 - OPPOSED TO ASKING FOR

13:48 - POTENTIALLY A REFORMATION OF

13:51 - THE TRUST SO

13:52 - THAT THE TRUSTEE WITH SOMEONE

13:55 - OTHER THAN THE HIGH AND I MEAN

13:57 - I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT I

13:58 - WOULD NEVER NEVER GIVEN HIM.

14:00 - I CONTROL OVER ALL OF THESE

14:02 - ASSETS AND I KNOW HE WAS

14:03 - INVOLVED IN AN

14:04 - EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIR, BUT THAT

14:07 - DOESN'T GET YOU A INVALIDATION

14:09 - OF THE TRUST THAT WOULD

14:10 - GET YOU GENTLY EVER. OH YOU

14:13 - DIDN'T PAY FOR

14:14 - WHATEVER REASON. A REQUEST FOR

14:17 - REPLACED, THEY KNOW THE

14:18 - TRUSTEE.

14:19 - >>WELL ACTUALLY THE CHASE

14:20 - SORTED OUT IN FAMILY COURT

14:22 - JUDGE ORDERED THE FAMILY WORK.

14:24 - SENATOR LUGAR TEEN BE

14:26 - OPENS WORK BECAUSE OF THE

14:29 - INTEREST WAS BE USED AS A

14:31 - SHIELD AGAINST. I TOLD YOU SHE.

14:34 - >>AND THAT'S WHAT THEY CAN I

14:36 - JUST INTERRUPT HERE BECAUSE I

14:37 - MEAN I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE

14:39 - MANY IS THAT THERE IS NO

14:40 - DIVORCE PENDING.

14:42 - >>WHEN THIS I

14:45 - WAYSIDE ESTABLISHED SO MANY I

14:47 - UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE

14:49 - ISSUE IT, BUT ME.

14:54 - WELL WE LOST THAT

14:55 - TEMPORARILY A SISTANI YOU.

14:59 - MOVED TO JUSTICE DAUGHERTY.

15:03 - >>COUNCIL IF WE WERE TO HAUL.

15:07 - CAN YOU SEE ME I WATCH YOU ALL

15:08 - FOR SECOND.

15:09 - >>I CAN SEE THE JUDGE.

15:11 - >>OKAY IF WE WERE TOLD IF

15:13 - WE WERE TO CONSIDER THAT HAS

15:15 - BEEN DID MAKE A

15:16 - MISREPRESENTATION CONSIDERING

15:17 - THAT THE COMBINED VALUE OF THE

15:19 - PROPERTIES WHERE APPROXIMATELY

15:22 - $470,000 COMPARED TO A

15:23 - 14 MILLION TRUCK,

15:25 - $40 MILLION TRUST. HOW WOULD

15:27 - YOU DEFINE THAT

15:28 - MISREPRESENTATION TO BE

15:29 - MATERIAL TO THE VALUE.

15:32 - >>CHILLS AND

15:32 - VALUE NOT I WOULD NOT I AS I

15:36 - SAID I THINK WE'LL TELL YOU ALL

15:38 - THESE THOUGHT NEEDS PROPERTIES.

15:40 - IT'S NOT THE ISSUE OR

15:41 - IMPORTANT. BUT WHAT I THINK

15:44 - IS IMPORTANT. HE'S THE REAL

15:46 - NAME RECLAIMED.

15:50 - >>VEHICLE USE BY WAS DONE.

15:53 - >>IN ORDER TO SHIELD. YES.

15:57 - >>HOPING TO EASE AND EVERYTHING

15:58 - SO THEN WHY WOULD NEVER.

16:00 - ANY CHANCE. IN WE'RE JUST

16:02 - TRYING TO PLAY HERE AND HE HAD

16:05 - MADE SURE AND NOT GOING

16:06 - TO WIN BASED ON BASED NOT

16:10 - DISCLOSING IT ALL.

16:11 - SO IT'S NOT THE

16:12 - ISSUE OF WHAT'S THE VALUE AND

16:14 - IT'S ONLY A PART OF THE THE

16:18 - THREAT OF THE CROSS. THE ISSUE

16:20 - IS WHAT WAS.

16:21 - WELL THIS WAS A RECORD TO BE

16:23 - INJURED BUT SOCIAL BEING ON

16:26 - THIS HOLE ALL STEEL AND IT IS

16:29 - IS THAT IT INVITES PEOPLE TO DO

16:32 - LIKEWISE IN SAVING SERVING IN

16:34 - ACROSS. AND WITH HIS MOTIVE

16:37 - IS TO THEY WERE

16:39 - NEVER DIVORCED. THAT'S WHAT IT

16:41 - WAS A BETTER THING TO DO THEN

16:43 - TO PROVING ITS WORTH TROUNCED

16:45 - AND THAT U HAUL OR REMOVAL, YOU

16:48 - KNOW. IT'S IT'S NOT

16:50 - HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY TAXES

16:52 - MANNER WHATSOEVER JUST SO COURT

16:58 - THIS IS THE COURT CAN NOT BE

16:59 - EVEN MORE. YOU GO BACK TO TRUST

17:01 - IN FAMILY COURT. JUSTICE A.

17:06 - THIS

17:08 - >>BARKLEY A FOLLOW-UP BEFORE

17:09 - REMOVING THE CORRECT. NO

17:12 - FACTS ARE. THIS IS CRACKED.

17:14 - >>THANK YOU TO DO JUST THIS

17:16 - MORNING COUNCIL. MORE THE

17:18 - COUNCIL IN

17:20 - IT'S NOT SINCE LAST EARLY SINCE

17:22 - THE A LIE WAS SET UP BACK IN

17:24 - THE 20'S. WE'VE ALL KNOWN WHAT

17:26 - THE 6 ELEMENTS OF FRAUD OR.

17:29 - >>AND I FOUND NO FACT-FINDING

17:31 - BY THE ORPHAN SCORED HERE ON

17:34 - THE 6 ELEMENTS A COUPLE ARE

17:36 - MISSING. INCLUDING SCIENCE FAIR

17:39 - AND YOUR YOU YOURSELF

17:41 - JUST SAID THERE'S NO

17:42 - MATERIALITY.

17:45 - THE CASE

17:48 - ABOUT VOIDING OF TRUST

17:50 - AND NOT ABOUT PLACING MORE OF

17:53 - BLAME TO AGREE ON THAT.

17:56 - >>IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU TRUST.

17:58 - OKAY. SO HERE'S

18:00 - A QUESTION. YOU'VE GOT AN

18:02 - ORPHANS COURT NUMBER OPEN.

18:04 - WHY NOT GO OVER TO

18:06 - FAMILY COURT AND THEN YOU'RE IN

18:08 - DOMESTIC RELATIONS LITIGATE

18:09 - YOUR ECONOMIC CLAIMS IN

18:10 - DIVORCE, INCLUDING THE MARITAL

18:12 - MISCONDUCT ISSUE. AND IF THE

18:14 - JUDGE NEEDS TO GET OUT THE

18:15 - TRUST YOU'VE GOTTEN ORPHANS

18:17 - COURT NUMBER OPEN AND THERE YOU

18:19 - GO.

18:21 - I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE

18:22 - TAILS WAGGING THE

18:23 - DOG HERE ARE AND WHY YOU'RE

18:26 - TRYING TO CHANGE THE LAW ON OUR

18:28 - LONGSTANDING REQUIREMENTS

18:30 - FOR FRAUD. ALL THAT SO YOU CAN

18:33 - OUT FIND A WAY TO USE THE

18:36 - INFIDELITY IS

18:37 - WAY TOO. STRIKE THE TRUSTEE

18:39 - EXPLAIN THAT TO MAKE BELIEVE

18:42 - THAT ARE USED IN CELL THE.

18:44 - >>I WOULD AGAIN I WANT TO BE

18:46 - HEARD

18:47 - ALL WE'LL BE ON THE MOTIVATION.

18:50 - WHY DON'T YOU GETTING IT

18:51 - BECAUSE I THINK IT'S MORE

18:52 - IMPORTANT HERE.

18:53 - >>THIS WAS PREPLANNED THIS

18:55 - ISN'T SOMETHING THAT. WOODS

18:57 - JUST HAPPENING A LITTLE.

19:00 - >>IN TERMS OF FRAUD AND TIME OR

19:02 - WAS IT WAS THE LAY OF THE LAND.

19:05 - >>NOW THERE IS

19:06 - EVIDENCE TO RESTATEMENT CALL

19:09 - THAT WILL BE STAYING IN MY

19:10 - OPENING. SINBAD WHO WHITES

19:14 - BY A GUY COATS

19:16 - ALL WHO ARE OF ORTIZ WE

19:19 - ALSO NEED YOU KNOW.

19:23 - BECAUSE HE'S NOW ONE OF

19:25 - THE E.

19:26 - >>THE FAMILY COURT HARD TO HER.

19:30 - NEW YORK AND WORK.

19:32 - THEY REACHED THE POINT WHERE

19:33 - THE HOST WAS SAY. NO

19:36 - YOU CAN'T LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT

19:38 - THE CENSUS BECAUSE THERE ARE

19:40 - NEW ROLE ALREADY IN THE RUBBLE.

19:42 - ROSS AND HE JUST ALERTS HE

19:45 - BASICALLY NEEDS IN THAT

19:46 - LANGUAGE. YOU KNOW HE'S AN

19:49 - GOING ON IN THEY NEED TO BE

19:51 - HOUSTON'S CREATE MISTRUST.

19:53 - THE VIEWER TURNED OVER MEAT

19:55 - ORPHANS COURT UVALDE INSTRUCTED

19:57 - US THAT AND SUGGEST RECALL

19:59 - PETITION WHICH WE DID.

20:06 - >>AND THEY ALL SAID YES ROCHE.

20:11 - >>THANK YOU COUNCIL, THANK YOU

20:12 - TO JUSTICE.

20:14 - >>AND MONEY DO YOU HAVE A

20:17 - QUESTION.

20:19 - >>NO QUESTIONS.

20:21 - >>THANK YOU WELL I THINK WE

20:23 - HAVE A.

20:26 - OH GOOD JUSTICE JOHN HUGHES

20:27 - BACK ON IT. I THINK I AM I'M BY

20:29 - TELEPHONE. ALL

20:31 - BY TELEPHONE. YOU

20:33 - CAN WALL-E YES IS ON EU WE LOST

20:36 - YOU FOR A MINUTE WE'RE TO 2

20:37 - MINUTE MARK. AND YOU'RE KIND OF

20:40 - INTERRUPTED SHOW. YEAH,

20:43 - I MEAN

20:44 - IT TOOK 85 ALLOW PASS FOR NOW I

20:48 - >>BREAK THAT. HEY.

20:52 - >>AND

20:53 - THANK YOU. AS YOU CAN AND WE

20:57 - UNDERSTAND UPPER HAND YOUR

20:59 - ARGUMENT.

21:02 - AND SO WE WILL NOW TURN

21:06 - COUNCIL FROM THE APP ALLEY.

21:09 - I BELIEVE

21:11 - RYAN WE HAVE THE.

21:13 - COUNCIL PRESIDENT THAN THEY

21:15 - WOULD BOTH.

21:17 - I DID WHEN THEY WOULD LIKE TO

21:18 - DIVIDE THEIR TIME IS THAT.

21:20 - THAT'S IN SHARP. AND MISTER

21:23 - ASHUN MR.

21:24 - OCEAN WE'LL START I GUESS YOU

21:26 - MISSED RATIONED.

21:32 - GETTING YOUR ARGUMENT AND NOT.

21:35 - AND THEN WHEN WE COME TO MISTER

21:36 - OCEAN, YOU KNOW THE ADMISSIONS

21:38 - ALWAYS WE LIKE TO

21:39 - AVOID REDUNDANCY YOU KNOW THERE

21:42 - ARE YOU HAVE PROBABLY EASE

21:44 - SINCE I BELIEVE

21:47 - IT IS NATIONAL CHANGE BY.

21:52 - IT HAS SINCE EXPLAINED.

22:02 - >>GOOD MORNING. MISTER CHIEF

22:02 - JUSTICE AND FELLOW MEMBERS OF

22:04 - THE COURT ON WHAT I WOULD LIKE

22:05 - TO DO IS APPROPRIATE MY 3

22:07 - MINUTES ON HAPPY TO YIELD TO

22:09 - ANY QUESTIONS THE COURT HAS TO

22:10 - MISTER OCEAN IN TERMS

22:11 - OF ARM ISSUES THAT ARE BEFORE

22:14 - US JUSTICES. YOU MIGHT POSE TO

22:16 - EITHER ONE OF US.

22:19 - MY NAME IS MARK ASHTON AND

22:20 - I REPRESENT A MASS RALLY, THE

22:21 - FELLOW WHO SEEMS THAT CREATED

22:23 - THIS CONTROVERSY

22:23 - 5 YEARS AGO. WAS HE THOUGHT IT

22:26 - WAS PROBABLY AT THAT TIME WITH

22:28 - ALL HIS OWN ASSETS ALL JOIN

22:30 - ASSETS AND INTEREST FOR

22:31 - HIMSELF. HIS WIFE AND HIS KIDS.

22:34 - I KNOW THAT ON THAT DAY

22:35 - 5 YEARS AGO. HE CONTRIBUTED $7

22:38 - MILLION OF ASSETS TITLE IN HIS

22:40 - NAME ALONE. AND ANOTHER MILLION

22:44 - IN ASSETS. AND HE MISSES PASS

22:45 - REALLY ON JOINTLY. WE

22:47 - KNEW ENTERPRISE CALLED THE PAST

22:48 - REALLY FAMILY REVOCABLE TRUST.

22:51 - IN DOING SO

22:52 - HE ALSO TOOK ON ALL OF THE

22:54 - DUTIES THERE ARE INHERENT IN

22:55 - THE ROLE OF TRUSTEE. IN EFFECT.

22:58 - YOU CAN TRACK TO BECOME A

22:59 - FIDUCIARY I MAKE THIS ALL THE

23:01 - WAY SO EVIDENT POINT IS I

23:03 - BELIEVE THE STANDARD FOR FRAUD

23:05 - IN THE CONTEXT OF AN INNER

23:06 - VITALS TRUST. NBA CONTRACT

23:08 - STANDARD OF FRAUD HAS CONCLUDED

23:10 - BY THE SUPERIOR COURT 14 MONTHS

23:12 - AGO.

23:13 - AS I UNDERSTAND IT WE'RE HERE

23:14 - TODAY TO TRY TO RECONCILE

23:16 - PERCEIVED DIFFERENCES BETWEEN

23:18 - SUPERIOR COURT RULING A 14

23:20 - MONTHS AGO IN 1962 SUPREME

23:22 - COURT RULING CALLED CALLS THE

23:23 - STATE AND THE SUBSEQUENT

23:25 - SUPERIOR COURT CASE HOPES TO

23:26 - GO OVER. MY GOAL TODAY IS TO

23:28 - TRY TO BE HELPFUL TO YOU IN

23:29 - MAKING THAT HIS POLICY

23:31 - DECISIONS.

23:32 - IN TREAD LIGHTLY OF CASES AGAIN

23:35 - AND AGAIN. THE STATE IS

23:36 - HARDEN'S BECAUSE THE RANGE OF

23:38 - FRAUDULENT ACTIVITIES IS QUITE

23:40 - BROAD AND IN BUT ALSO STATE AND

23:42 - THE COLOR

23:43 - OF STATE. OF COURSE STOCK TO

23:44 - SPECULATE WHAT THAT DOES SEEM

23:46 - TO WANT

23:46 - IT DONE AND THAT THE SCENE

23:48 - KNOWN ALL THE FACTS WHEN

23:49 - PREPARING THEIR WHEELS.

23:51 - IN ALL THESE CASES INCLUDING

23:53 - PAUL RESOURCES MORE ASK YOU

23:55 - KNOW. THERE ARE STRONG HINTS OF

23:56 - INFIRMITY ON DOING WELL.

23:59 - WE DO NOT HAVE THAT HERE.

24:01 - WE HAVE TO COLLEGE EDUCATED

24:03 - ADULTS IN THE PRIME OF THEIR

24:04 - LIVES. I'M TO SECURE THEIR

24:06 - WEALTH FOR

24:06 - THEIR FUTURE. AMONG THE ASSETS

24:08 - HAS BEEN PUT INTO THE TRUST ONE

24:10 - HIMSELF AND HIS WIFE OR 2

24:12 - QUARTER MILLION

24:12 - DOLLAR HOUSE. THOSE RENTAL

24:14 - PROPERTIES COMPOSE ROUGHLY 3%

24:16 - OF THE

24:16 - ENTIRE STATE. THE PROBLEM IN

24:18 - THE FRAUD CLAIM IN THIS CASE

24:20 - IS THAT BECAUSE THE CO GRANT OR

24:22 - THE TRUST PROFESSORS THAT SHE

24:23 - DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THESE ASSETS

24:25 - THE ENTIRE TRUST MUST FAIL.

24:27 - SUPERIOR COURT TERM THAT

24:28 - CLAIMED PEOPLE WE SERVE FOR

24:31 - 2 REASONS IDOL. HEARST THERE IS

24:33 - NO DUTY UNDER TRUST LOT OF

24:35 - COURSE EVERY ASSET GOING INTO A

24:36 - TRUST. SECOND.

24:38 - THE 2 OFFENDING POINTS

24:40 - CONTRIBUTED $470,000.

24:42 - THE GREATER GOOD OF THE PAST

24:44 - REALLY FAMILY INCLUDING MISSUS

24:45 - HAS HER OWN.

24:47 - HEARD AND PERHAPS LEAST

24:48 - IMPORTANT NONDISCLOSURE

24:49 - IS IMMATERIAL. THE 2 HOUSES

24:51 - MISTER MCINNIS AND SEEDS OR 3%

24:53 - ON INTEREST RATES. I WANT TAKEN

24:56 - FROM THE TRUST. ALRIGHT, IN

24:58 - BY STEALTH. THEY WERE PUT INTO

25:00 - A TRUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE

25:01 - FAMILY.

25:02 - SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE

25:04 - RATHER WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE AS

25:05 - WEAK TWO-PART TEST LIVE IN

25:08 - LOWER CASE WITH I DIDN'T KNOW

25:10 - THE FACTS AND HAD THE DECEIT

25:12 - KNOWN ALL THE FACTS SHE HAD

25:15 - WRITTEN WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN

25:15 - WRITTEN AS AN AD. I DON'T

25:17 - BELIEVE IT

25:18 - HAS MERIT IN A IN THE CONTEXT

25:20 - OF THEM IN OR BUY VOTES TRUST

25:21 - SETTING. HEAR ALL OF

25:24 - THE PARTIES. GRANT HORST

25:25 - TRUSTEE BENEFICIARIES ARE

25:27 - ALIVE. AND

25:29 - A LOW THRESHOLD WHICH IS I

25:30 - DIDN'T KNOW AND I WOULD HAVE

25:31 - DONE OTHERWISE IS A SITUATION

25:34 - WHICH CAN BE USED AS A WEAPON

25:35 - TO ACCOMPLISH THE PURPOSES WHAT

25:37 - I THINK HAS BEEN DONE HERE.

25:39 - THE GLOVER TEST INVITES AN

25:40 - UNHAPPY PARTY TO ANY FACT

25:42 - AND CLAIMED THAT HE CAN CLAIM

25:45 - ANY FACT A SUFFICIENT TO SAY I

25:46 - DIDN'T KNOW IT AND THAT RUSSIAN

25:48 - BE THIS PART SHOULD BE

25:49 - TO SPEND. PASS REALLY PARENTS

25:51 - HERE SIGNED A TRUST TO

25:52 - PRESERVE WEALTH. IT'S THE 40

25:55 - ONCE THAT CONTRACT WAS SENT IN.

25:57 - LET HER PROVED THE SAME

25:58 - ELEMENTS OF MISREPRESENTATION.

26:00 - MATERIALITY JUSTIFY ALLIANCE

26:03 - DAMAGE IS NOT ANY OF THE

26:04 - CONTRACT.

26:06 - INDICATED IN THE SUPREME COURT

26:09 - SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT SIR

26:11 - YOU CAN TAKE YOUR ALTERNATE

26:12 - STRIP. IF YOU DO THAT THEN

26:14 - OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE ELECTED OR

26:16 - GOING TO QUESTIONING BY THE

26:17 - COURT.

26:20 - >>ME OUT YOU MIGHT GET HER HELP

26:22 - YOUR CAUSE YOU.

26:24 - IN BRIBES. YOU KNOW YOU SEE ALL

26:26 - THE RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS

26:28 - YOU JUST AS YOU MIGHT HAVE BUT

26:30 - IT'S YOUR CHOICE YOU WANT TO

26:31 - JUST KEEP GOING. AS WE ROUND

26:33 - OUT THE ANSWER QUESTIONS.

26:35 - OKAY, WE'LL START WITH JUST

26:36 - DESPAIR. AND THEN YOU ARE IN.

26:39 - IT YOU KNOW BY THE TIME OR

26:40 - THROUGH ANY QUESTIONS WERE

26:41 - MOVED TO A COKE. THERE IN THE.

26:45 - NOW THE

26:45 - OTHER COUNCIL FOR HALEIGH JESSE

26:47 - SPEER.

26:49 - >>AND MISTER ACTION YOU'LL

26:51 - FORGIVE ME IF I PERHAPS

26:52 - INTERRUPT BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW

26:53 - QUESTIONS THAT I WANT TO ASK

26:55 - VERY

26:56 - LIMITED TIME, YOU'RE OPPOSING

26:57 - COUNSEL SUGGEST THAT WE SHOULD

26:59 - PULL THE LENS BACK ON THIS

27:00 - TRANSACTION AND LOOK AT IT AS

27:03 - A TOTALITY AND IN AND OBVIOUSLY

27:06 - I'M NOT READ THE NOT READ THE

27:09 - TRANSCRIPTS AND IN SOMEBODY

27:10 - WILL DO THAT OR WE'LL ALL DO

27:12 - THAT. BUT THAT THIS WAS AN

27:13 - ELABORATE SCHEME. THAT HE HID

27:16 - THESE HOMES IN JAPAN

27:18 - THAT HE HAD ONLY ONE LAWYER IN

27:20 - IN IN THE IRREVOCABLE TRUST IN

27:23 - HIS DESIGN WHICH HE THEN

27:24 - CARRIED OUT WAS TO GET THE

27:26 - EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION AND TRY

27:28 - TO THIS INHERITOR OF THE

27:30 - MILLION THAT THEY HAD.

27:34 - JOINTLY. ATTRIBUTED WHY IS THAT

27:37 - WRONG WHY WOULDN'T THE TRUST

27:39 - JUST ONE COMPONENT OF A SCHEME

27:41 - TO WALK AWAY FROM THE MARRIAGE

27:43 - WITH EVERYTHING AND WHAT

27:45 - YOU ARE.

27:45 - >>WHO LETS PUT IT THIS WAY

27:47 - LET'S LOOK FIRST OF ALL MRS.

27:49 - PASTOR ONLY INDICATED ON THE

27:51 - RECORD AND

27:51 - HER TESTIMONY IF SHE WANTED TO

27:53 - PRESERVE THESE ACTIONS THAT SHE

27:55 - WAS AWARE OF THE CONSEQUENCES

27:56 - OF DIVORCE. THESE ARE QUESTIONS

27:58 - THAT SHE POSTED A LAWYER IN THE

27:59 - DAY THAT SHE SIGNED IT

28:00 - MOREOVER CHAPIN IS ACTUALLY A

28:02 - COMPANY THAT WAS USED. MISTER

28:04 - PASS RALLY AND HIS FORMER

28:06 - PARTNER OWN. IT WAS USED TO

28:08 - HOLD REAL ESTATE

28:09 - LONG BEFORE ON THE BUSINESS WAS

28:11 - SOLD FOR THE BUSINESS OF THE

28:12 - UNION IS PARTNER OWN.

28:14 - ALL FOR THE SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT

28:15 - OF MONEY THAT IS

28:16 - TODAY INTERESTS. LET ME ME

28:20 - INTERRUPT YOU ONE 2ND BECAUSE

28:22 - TIME IS SHORT. LET'S TALK ABOUT

28:23 - J BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE

28:25 - DOESN'T OWN ANYTHING BESIDES

28:27 - 2 HOMES. OH YES, YES, OWNS IT

28:29 - OWNS 5 OF THE RESIDENTIAL

28:31 - PROPERTIES OF I HAVE WRECKED

28:32 - YOUR HONOR AND A DONATE

28:33 - AND PROBABLY RECORDERS MILLION

28:36 - DOLLARS IN TREASURY BONDS AND

28:38 - HIS WIFE AWARE OF

28:39 - ALL THAT. WELL YOUR HONOR ON TO

28:41 - THAT LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY I

28:42 - DON'T KNOW SHE KNEW EXACTLY

28:44 - WHAT WAS IN SHAPE AND JANE WAS

28:45 - DISCLOSED AS MISTER REBECCA

28:47 - MACKINNON INDICATED IS HAVING A

28:48 - VALUE OF $4.2 MILLION AND THEN

28:51 - VALUE WAS UNCONTESTED

28:52 - AND WAS UNCONTESTED IN THE

28:53 - HEARING WHICH TELLS ME SHE KNEW

28:54 - SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

28:57 - THANK YOU JUST BOUGHT.

29:02 - I HAVE NO QUESTIONS

29:04 - TO JUST.

29:05 - >>THANK YOU JUSTICE ADANI YEAR.

29:08 - >>I THINK COUNCIL I CAN'T

29:10 - ANSWER TO ME I'D LIKE YOU WHY I

29:13 - ASK YOU

29:14 - YOUR VIEW. I MEAN THAT'S A BIG

29:16 - CITY WITH WHICH THE ASKED

29:18 - STAFF.

29:19 - I DIED THIS

29:21 - TRIED I NEEDED TO BE DISCLOSED

29:24 - AS I UNDERSTAND IT JAKE, THEN

29:25 - IT'S A REAL STATEMENT, THE

29:27 - PARTNERSHIP

29:28 - THAT CORRECT.

29:29 - >>WELL I DON'T WANT TO SAY TO

29:31 - HIS PRIMARY ASSETS ARE REAL

29:33 - ESTATE AND I RECALL CORRECTLY

29:34 - WAS CREATED FOR THAT PURPOSE.

29:37 - >>OK SHOW ME

29:38 - THE ACTUAL ASKED THAT IN THE

29:40 - TRIAL WHEN HE

29:41 - CAN CORRECT.

29:43 - >>WHAT IT'S TAKE THEM

29:44 - UNDERSTAND IS JAY BEEN

29:46 - REPRESENTING MILLION

29:48 - OF THE ROUGHLY MILLION THAT

29:50 - MISTER I'M OK I

29:53 - UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT MY MY

29:54 - QUESTION IN UH IT IS REALLY

29:56 - SPEAK GET

29:57 - BACK TO.

29:58 - >>I'D BE ASKED THAT DAD IS AT

30:00 - ISSUE HERE BY YOUR OPPOSING

30:03 - COUNCIL TAKE THE CONDITION

30:05 - NAPPY AFGHAN ARE

30:07 - ALL OF THE ASSETS HELD BY THE

30:10 - LIMITED PARTNERSHIP AS I

30:12 - UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION AND

30:14 - THE REASONING OF THE SUPERIOR

30:16 - COURT KEY ASSET IN

30:17 - FACT BE. LIMITED PARTNERSHIP II

30:21 - DO YOU AGREE WITH BACK IN

30:22 - CONTENTION.

30:23 - >>I LOOK LET ME

30:24 - BE CLEAR AND TRUST INDENTURE

30:27 - WHICH IS IN THE RECORD THE

30:28 - TRUST INDENTURE INDENTIFIED AS

30:30 - THE ASSET CONVEYED AS THE

30:31 - ASSETS AND THE LNP CHAIN BEEN

30:33 - PROPERTIES.

30:35 - THAT 200 AND BEFORE

30:38 - $70,000 OF THAT MILLION

30:40 - CONSISTS OF THESE

30:41 - 2 OFFENDING HOMES. THE BALANCE

30:43 - OF IT CONSISTS OF OTHER

30:44 - RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE UP AND

30:45 - DOWN THESE BOATS.

30:48 - >>I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL, I

30:50 - MEAN BY THAT

30:51 - I

30:52 - THE QUESTION IS I SEE IT IS IT

30:55 - A SHAME TO BE ASKED THAT.

30:59 - I E J CAN AND IT VALUATION

31:03 - IN TOTAL. I

31:04 - BELIEVE I CAN DO AFTER HE THE

31:07 - SAMPLE OF WHAT THEY WANT TO BE

31:09 - ASKED THAT IT BE TRIED WITH

31:10 - THE CORPORATION. WOULD WOULD IT

31:13 - BE NECESSARY COULD DISCLOSED OR

31:15 - ALL OF THE PROPERTY HELD BY THE

31:17 - CORPORATION. I DON'T THING

31:20 - YEAH. FILE CABINET, ETCETERA OR

31:22 - IF THAT

31:23 - DECISION QUE IT'S CLOSE THE

31:26 - EXISTING OF THE CORPORATION IS

31:28 - PART OF THE RACE TO BE TRIED IN

31:30 - TO PUT A VALUE ON IT, I'M

31:31 - ASSUMING YOU'RE ADDITIONAL

31:33 - LINES WITH THAT AS THE

31:34 - SUPERIOR COURT.

31:36 - >>AND YES AND WHAT WE'RE

31:37 - SUGGESTING HERE IS THAT AGAIN

31:39 - THIS CAN BE USE THIS DEVICE.

31:41 - BREAK APART TRUST FOR OTHER

31:42 - REASONS. EXAMPLE SUPPOSE MISTER

31:45 - CASTRO'S INVESTMENT ACCOUNT

31:46 - HELD STOP IT NOW IN CROP ARE

31:48 - SOME OF THE

31:49 - OTHER COMPANIES AND OUR OPIOID

31:51 - MANUFACTURERS I CAN UNDERSTAND

31:53 - WHERE SOMEONE MIGHT BE OFFENDED

31:54 - BY THAT OR ANY OTHER FORM OF

31:56 - ASSET WAS GRAHAM'S AT THAT TIME

31:59 - IN 2010 BUT BE OFFENDED BY

32:00 - ASSET. THE FACT OF THE MATTER

32:02 - IS THAT POSSIBLE DOES NOT

32:04 - REQUIRE US TO DISCLOSE EACH AND

32:05 - EVERY ASSET IN CONTRIBUTED TO A

32:07 - CAR DEALERSHIP

32:08 - I MEAN THERE'S A HUGE NUMBER I

32:10 - UNDERSTAND THAT LET ME LET ME

32:11 - JUST INTERRUPT I COULD GET IN

32:13 - ONE MORE

32:13 - QUESTION ON.

32:15 - >>YOUR OPPOSING IS IT APPEARS

32:19 - NOW IN SOME LIGHT AND INCREASE

32:20 - THE MORE

32:21 - SO NOW.

32:22 - >>I TAKING A POSITION THAT THIS

32:24 - CASE AS SOMETHING TO DO

32:26 - WITH ON

32:28 - PERPETRATION OF ROUGH RIDE IN

32:30 - GENERAL AS OPPOSED TO THE

32:32 - MANNER IN WHICH I UNDERSTAND

32:33 - THE CASE WITH THE BALLOT WHICH

32:35 - A DIFFERENT CHALLENGE

32:37 - TO A

32:38 - 9 DISCLOSURE OF AFTER THAT WITH

32:41 - IN THIS

32:45 - LIMITED PARTNERSHIP. ARE WE NOT

32:48 - CONFINED IN ADDRESSING THIS

32:50 - CASE TOO.

32:52 - THE FACTS AND TO REDEFINE WHICH

32:54 - WE DEVELOPED I E AN ATTACK

32:56 - ON 9 TO CLOSE WHAT I WANT TO BE

32:59 - AT THAT GUY IN THE TRUCK.

33:05 - >>I SEE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT

33:06 - DIFFERENTLY AND HOW IT WAS

33:07 - PRESENTED IT WAS PRESENTED

33:08 - FIRST IS THERE WAS A NEED TO

33:09 - DISCLOSE THE RELATIONSHIP IN

33:12 - ORDER FOR THE TRUST THE BALLOT.

33:14 - THE TRIAL COURT DECIDED IT WAS

33:16 - GOING TO INVALIDATE THE TRUST

33:18 - BASED UPON THE NONDISCLOSURE

33:19 - BEEN

33:19 - 2 PROPERTIES. NOW AND THE

33:22 - VARIOUS POINTS DURING THIS

33:23 - DURING

33:24 - THIS ARGUMENT. ALL THE WIFE HAS

33:26 - TAKEN DIFFERENT POSITIONS ON

33:27 - THAT AND BASICALLY EITHER

33:29 - ADVANCED IT CAN THINK WELL WHY

33:31 - NOT JUST GO TO THE YES IT WAS

33:32 - ENOUGH AND THE OTHERS THE NOT

33:33 - JUST WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP.

33:35 - I THINK MISTER OCEAN'S PRE

33:36 - DOESN'T OUR GOVERNMENT AND WAS

33:38 - LEAVING THE FACT THAT

33:39 - HOW ARE WE TO DEFINE WHAT IS A

33:41 - RELATIONSHIP AND WHAT IT MEANS

33:42 - ON. AND AND WHERE IS WHERE DOES

33:46 - THAT LINE GET DRAWN. I THINK

33:47 - THAT'S A VERY. DIFFICULT TASK

33:50 - FOR ANY COURT TO TRY TO DO.

33:52 - >>THANK YOU MISTER AND GET HER.

33:53 - THANK YOU MISS DRIVE IN THAT.

33:55 - WE WILL TURN A IN THE

33:57 - REMAINING. IT CAN

34:00 - MATCH TO YOU'RE ALL SHOULD.

34:05 - >>THANK YOU CHIEF PLEASE THE

34:08 - AGAIN MONEYS THAT WAS WAS

34:10 - APPOINTED AS GUARDIAN AD LITEM

34:12 - ON BEHALF OF E. TO PASS A

34:15 - MOTION WITH CHILDREN.

34:17 - AND IF I MAY UTILIZE

34:19 - MY SO THE LIMITED ISSUE.

34:22 - IT'S TEMPTING TO. LET'S

34:26 - WELL WITH THE JUSTICE TIDE AND

34:28 - JUST AS DONAHUE OF BRIEFLY

34:29 - CHARACTERIZES MISCONDUCT.

34:32 - CLAIM.

34:34 - GENERALLY WHEN DEALING WITH

34:36 - FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES. SEASON,

34:37 - ONE WHEN EWING WITH DISCLOSURE,

34:39 - GENERALLY EITHER YOU NEED.

34:42 - THE MASSACRE RELATIONS CONTACTS

34:44 - OR ME. THE STATE CONTEXT WE'RE

34:47 - DEALING WITH FINANCIALS WE'RE

34:49 - NOT DEALING WITH MISCONDUCT OR

34:51 - EXTRAMARITAL

34:52 - AFFAIRS, THOSE AND THERE'S NO

34:54 - CASE LAW IS AS I CAN FIND A

34:56 - FEELING WE NEED TO MAKE THOSE

34:58 - CLAIMS OF SCHOOLS.

35:00 - AND WHEN I WAS PREPARING FOR

35:02 - THE SURGERY, I HAD AN

35:03 - OPPORTUNITY TO

35:04 - WATCH MONDAY'S. STREAM AND SOUL

35:08 - JUST

35:08 - AS FAIR. POSITIVE NUMBER OF

35:10 - HYPOTHETICALS WHICH GOT ME MR.

35:12 - ASHTON'S THINKING WELL WHAT

35:14 - WOULD THIS DO TO SETTLE

35:15 - DOMESTIC RELATIONS LAW.

35:17 - IF ON A DATING THIS WOOD IN

35:20 - HIS ARGUMENT. THERE WAS A

35:22 - REQUIREMENT BEGIN MAKING PEACE

35:24 - HOPES OF DISCLOSURES.

35:25 - AND IT IS SAFE TO LEAVE.

35:29 - WE RUN THE RISK OF.

35:31 - INVALIDATING WE'RE CALLING INTO

35:33 - QUESTION. THE VALIDITY OF ANY

35:35 - NUMBER OF THE NUPTIAL

35:36 - AGREEMENTS. BECAUSE

35:39 - AS PRACTITIONERS.

35:43 - COAKLEY DUTIES OF OUR CLIENTS

35:44 - ARE GENERALLY NOT OUR CONCERN

35:46 - IT'S WHAT ARE YOUR FINANCIALS

35:48 - WHAT'S YOUR INCOME

35:49 - AND IS THE DISCLOSURE MADE

35:52 - OTHER SUFFICIENT ENOUGH OR WAS

35:54 - THERE A FULL WAIVER. HAS FOUND

35:56 - IN THE BENNETT CASE. COURTED BY

35:58 - MISTER RICK AND HIS CLIENT.

36:01 - THE BIGGER PROBLEM

36:03 - IS IF YOU MAKE A GENERALIZED

36:06 - FINDING THAT THIS TYPE

36:07 - OF MISCONDUCT II'S A NECESSARY

36:11 - ELEMENT DISCLOSURE. THOSE THAT

36:13 - CALL INTO QUESTION WHETHER OR

36:15 - NOT.

36:18 - PREMARITAL MISCONDUCT MUST

36:20 - BE DISCLOSED. OTHERWISE YOU

36:22 - CALL INTO QUESTION. THE

36:23 - VALIDITY OF THE MARRIAGE.

36:25 - UNDER 33 '05, YOU

36:27 - KNOW, IT'S. THERE'S NO CASE LAW

36:30 - THAT COULD FIND ON THE WALL

36:31 - HEALING THAT ISSUE.

36:34 - THERE ARE LIMITED REFERENCES TO

36:37 - PREMARITAL AND CHASTITY

36:39 - WELL AS I COULD FIND IN THE NL

36:41 - OR. BUT GENERALLY.

36:45 - IT GAINED THE FRAUD REFERENCE

36:47 - FOR A NO-MAN'S DOESN'T. STILL

36:50 - IN 2.

36:54 - THIS COURT TO ADOPT NOW.

36:56 - >>THANK YOU MISTER

36:57 - OCEAN OUT OH I'D LIKE TO BE A

37:00 - FOR YOU

37:00 - CONCLUDE GO. I ASK YOU SOME OF

37:03 - THE OTHER REMAINING JUSTICES

37:05 - MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION YOU.

37:07 - STARTING JUSTICE DAUGHERTY'S

37:10 - WHO QUESTIONS.

37:14 - >>THANK YOU FOR MISTER ASKED

37:15 - HIM A COUPLE QUESTIONS CHIEF

37:16 - JUSTICE. MISTER ASHTON WOULD

37:18 - YOU AGREE THAT THERE'S NO

37:20 - REASON WHY

37:21 - WE SHOULD GO STRAIGHT FROM THE

37:24 - 6 LONGSTANDING ELEMENTS FOR

37:26 - FRAUD.

37:28 - >>YEAH, ABSOLUTELY AS I SAID I

37:29 - DO THIS IS A CONTRACT CASE.

37:31 - WHEN I SAY THAT I THINK THIS

37:32 - TRUST IS A CONTRACTOR HAS

37:34 - DUTIES IN THE RUNNING MAN BOTH

37:36 - DIRECTIONS AND THEREFORE SHOULD

37:37 - BE DECIDED AS AS A COUNTRY CASE

37:39 - NOT IN A STATE IS THE OTHER THE

37:41 - OTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU

37:42 - SIR

37:46 - THE WIFE BROUGHT THE

37:47 - DIVORCE CLAIM. AND I UNDERSTAND

37:50 - ON HER PETITION FOR SPECIAL

37:51 - RELIEVE BE.

37:53 - >>THE FAMILY OF THE DOMESTIC

37:54 - RELATIONS COURT SUBSTANTIAL

37:57 - AMOUNT OF THE TRUST CORPUS IS

37:59 - NOT RIGHT. YEAH, HE TRIED TO

38:01 - INCREASE HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVELY

38:02 - CONTROLLED BEFORE HIS OWN.

38:04 - >>YEAH, SO THEN

38:07 - WIFE BRINGS HER PETITION

38:09 - FOR TERMINATION OF THE TRUST

38:10 - AND THE ORPHANS COURT. MY

38:12 - QUESTION IS SO YOU'VE GOT THESE

38:15 - 2 ACTIONS THERE.

38:17 - WHY CAN'T HE BE CONSOLIDATED

38:19 - AND THEN SHE CAN LITIGATE THE

38:21 - MISCONDUCT CLAIMS IN THE

38:22 - ALIMONY ISSUE ON TO THE EXTENT

38:24 - THAT'S THERE AND IF FOR

38:26 - SOME REASON THERE ARE NONE OF

38:28 - ASSETS AT THE END OF

38:29 - THIS GAME. DUE IN JUNE AND KATE

38:31 - BE ECONOMIC GOD CLAIMS IN

38:33 - DIVORCE. INTEREST CORPUS HASN'T

38:35 - GONE ANYWHERE IN THE 6 ELEMENTS

38:38 - FOR FRAUD ARE MADE OUT. BOY

38:40 - ABILITIES AVAILABLE WALK.

38:42 - I ISN'T THAT THE WAY THIS

38:44 - SHOULD

38:44 - BE HANDLED. WHY I TEND TO I

38:47 - DON'T ENTIRELY AGREE WITH YOUR

38:48 - ANALYSIS RIGHT AND AGREE WITH

38:49 - THE PREMISE OF IT WHICH IS.

38:51 - >>THESE PEOPLE MADE A CONSCIOUS

38:52 - DECISION TO PUT ASSETS

38:53 - INTERESTS. SO THERE IS A TRUST

38:55 - AND THE TRUST IS A SUBJECT

38:57 - ORGANS. COURTS

38:57 - EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION. HE ALSO

39:00 - IN OUR RETIREMENT ASSETS AND

39:02 - OTHER THINGS THAT THEY DON'T

39:03 - PERSONALLY SHOWERS AND THEY'RE

39:05 - ALSO ALIMONY CLAIMS ALL WINTER

39:07 - PERFECTLY DRINKABLE INDY ALL

39:09 - FAMILY COURT DIVISION. SO I I

39:12 - SEE THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE

39:14 - THERE ARE 2 SETS OF CLAIMS BOTH

39:16 - OF WHICH TEMPLE IN THE END BOTH

39:17 - OF WHICH YOU AND PROCEEDED ON

39:19 - WITHOUT INFLATING THE 2.

39:25 - >>LET'S JUST REMIND YOU THAT

39:27 - QUESTION BEFORE WE INCLUDED.

39:30 - >>NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

39:33 - AND MR.

39:33 - >>OCEAN NEAR A WORD THAT YOU

39:36 - WOULD LIKE TO SAY BY WAY OF

39:37 - SUMMER.

39:41 - >>BEING THE ONLY

39:44 - >>THE STATE.

39:45 - >>IF PARTIES TO DIVORCE

39:46 - LITIGATION TEND TO UTILIZE

39:48 - OTHER EQUALS TO PUERTO RICO, HE

39:50 - PULLED DISTRIBUTION.

39:52 - IT'S NOT LEAST FROWNED

39:55 - UPON DO YOU FIND IT QUITE OFTEN

39:56 - IN EITHER PRENUPTIAL OR ANY NOT

39:58 - TO HUMANS.

39:59 - THE QUESTION IS ALWAYS WHETHER

40:01 - THE FAIR DISCLOSURE WAS MADE

40:03 - ARGUABLY AS MISTER ABSOLUTELY

40:04 - IT EARLIER. SUCH A DISCLOSURE

40:07 - WAS MADE IN THIS CASE EVEN

40:09 - THOUGH WASN'T

40:10 - NECESSARILY REQUIRE. I THINK

40:13 - THAT THE LAST COMMON ON A CASE

40:14 - THAT THE SCRIVENER TESTIFIED

40:16 - THAT THERE WAS A CONSCIOUS

40:17 - DECISION ON HIS PART

40:19 - TO IDENTIFY THE ASSETS IN

40:21 - SCHEDULE IN A BID TRUST AS THEY

40:23 - WERE I CAN'T FAULT BECAUSE

40:25 - THE CORPORATE INTEREST WAS WHAT

40:27 - WAS TRANS.

40:29 - THERE WAS OTHER DOCUMENTATION

40:31 - THAT WAS ADMITTED THIS

40:32 - TIME TRIAL AND THAT SHOWED

40:34 - EARLIER SPREADSHEETS THAT

40:36 - CONTAIN EACH IDENTIFIABLE

40:38 - ASSETS THAT THE THE SCHEDULE

40:40 - WAS COLD FRONT.

40:42 - SO OBVIOUSLY THAT CALLS INTO

40:43 - QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THERE

40:45 - WAS

40:45 - HIS INTENT. ON THE PART OF

40:47 - MISTER YASSER ALI TO

40:49 - CREATE THIS SCHEME A FRAUD WHEN

40:51 - THE INFORMATION WAS.

40:53 - DELIVER TO SCRIVENER AND BY THE

40:56 - SCRIPTURES A MISSION COLD FROM

40:58 - OR DID HE WAS SCHEDULED TO

41:00 - SCORE.

41:01 - >>THANK YOU, THANKS TO ALL

41:02 - COUNCILS WITH THAT NO COUNTRY

41:04 - THE ARGUMENT.

41:08 - >>RECONVENE THE ARGUMENT.

41:13 - THANK YOU FOR YEARS.

41:17 - >>SUMMER IS HERE AND SO IS PCN

41:19 - SUMMER LINEUP. IT ALL STARTS

41:20 - WITH THE AFRICAN AMERICAN

41:21 - EXPERIENCE SHOWCASING THE

41:23 - ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND HISTORY OF

41:25 - AFRICAN AMERICANS AND P A TAKE

41:27 - A TRIP BACK IN TIME WITH ITS

41:29 - HISTORY.

41:30 - THE UK WITH SOME OF OUR STATE'S

41:31 - FAMOUS FIGURES WITH PCN

41:33 - PROFILE. FINALLY TREAT YOURSELF

41:35 - TO SOME

41:36 - STARTING AROUND KEYSTONE

41:38 - CUISINE PCN SUMMER LINEUP.

41:40 - EVERY SUNDAY BEGINNING JULY 12

41:42 - ON CABLE AND STREAMING.

41:48 - >>THIS MATTER IS IN THE CIVIC

41:50 - VERSUS THE STATE ETHICS

41:51 - COMMISSION ARE YOU GOING TO

41:53 - HAVE A POEM IS REALLY BEHALF OF

41:56 - THE MOVIE. JEFFREY FRANKEL.

42:00 - AGAIN MORNING.

42:03 - WI MEMBER.

42:06 - TOWNSHIP'S BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

42:08 - HERE.

42:10 - ALAN SECURED EMPLOYMENT

42:12 - FINISHED ON. AND THEREAFTER HER

42:15 - EYES SHUT. I'M SHE.

42:18 - STATE ETHICS COMMISSION

42:19 - DETERMINED THE ISLAND.

42:21 - RILEY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST

42:23 - PROVISION IN THE ARCTIC SHELL

42:25 - IN ORDER HIM TO PAY

42:26 - RESTITUTION.

42:29 - HOW LONG IS SHOWN BEING EASE.

42:33 - TERMINATIONS.

42:39 - >>GOOD MORNING MISTER TO

42:40 - JUSTICE AND MEMBERS OF THE

42:41 - QUARTER AND ARE YOU READY.

42:43 - COUNSEL FOR THE A POUND JUNE

42:44 - PIECE OF IT MAY IT PLEASE

42:46 - THE COURT. RESOLUTIONS IN THIS

42:49 - CASE OF

42:49 - COMMON CLEAN. BECAUSE THE

42:51 - FACTUAL EVIDENCE MR. COM WORLD

42:53 - PROVIDED TO MEET THE

42:54 - REQUIREMENTS OF THE

42:56 - I WANT TO ADDRESS THE U.S.

42:57 - COMPUTERS TO ISSUE OF

42:59 - RESTITUTION FIRST.

43:01 - IT WAS STIPULATED IN THE RECORD

43:03 - BOTH THE COMMISSIONER

43:04 - COMMONWEALTH COURT FOUND THAT

43:05 - WAS TO SERVE ITS OWN WAS A

43:06 - MAINTENANCE WORKER ON THE

43:07 - ROAD CREW. UNDER MISTER CIVICS

43:09 - IMMEDIATE SUPERVISION IS

43:11 - DIRECTOR OF

43:11 - PUBLIC WORKS. AND IN THIS

43:13 - SPECIFIC WAS AN ELECTED MEMBER

43:14 - OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND

43:16 - IN FACT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE

43:17 - BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

43:19 - IMAGE AN INDICATION THE

43:20 - COMMISSION ORDERED MR. CENTER

43:22 - TO PAY RESTITUTION IN THE

43:23 - AMOUNT OF

43:24 - $30,000. THE PRIME OF SENIOR

43:27 - RECEIVED BY HIS SON IS A LABOR.

43:29 - I'M ALL COURT OF

43:30 - HEALTH DISORDER. THIS IS NOT

43:32 - AUTHORIZED BY THE ACT.

43:34 - AS ALWAYS THE BEST WAY TO

43:36 - DETERMINE THE INTENT AND

43:37 - PURPOSE 70 STATUTE IS TO FOCUS

43:39 - ON THE WORDS ACTUALLY EMPLOYED

43:40 - BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

43:43 - POWER GIVEN TO THE COMMISSION

43:44 - TO ORDER RESTITUTION APPEARS IN

43:46 - ONLY ONE PLACE THE ENTIRE ACT.

43:49 - SECTION 107 13 SENTENCE NUMBER

43:52 - 3 IS THAT LOCATION.

43:55 - IT'S VERY

43:55 - CLEAR QUOTE ANY WORD OR

43:57 - RESULTING FROM A FINDING THAT A

43:59 - PUBLIC OFFICIAL OR PUBLIC

44:00 - EMPLOYEES AS OF SUNDAY,

44:02 - INTERRUPTING IN VIOLATION OF

44:03 - THIS CHAPTER. THEY REQUIRE THE

44:05 - RESTITUTION PLUS INTEREST OF

44:07 - THE TEAM TO THE APPROPRIATE

44:08 - GOVERNMENTAL BODY WAS COLD.

44:11 - IT'S NEVER BEEN CONTENDED THAT

44:12 - HIS SON WAS A

44:13 - PUBLIC OFFICIAL OR PRESS OR

44:15 - PUBLIC EMPLOYEE AS THOSE TERMS

44:17 - ARE DEFINED BY WILL MOVE TO THE

44:19 - ACT.

44:20 - INSTEAD BOTH THE COMMISSION AND

44:21 - COME WITH 40 NOTIFIED.

44:23 - ONLY JOHN PIECE OF THE

44:24 - RESPONDENTS AS A PUBLIC

44:26 - OFFICIAL AND PUBLIC EMPLOYEE.

44:28 - THIS IS A

44:29 - SO IT WASN'T CONCLUSION OF LAW

44:30 - NUMBER ONE OF THE COMMISSION'S

44:32 - DETERMINATION.

44:34 - BUT BY FOCUSING ON THE ACTUAL

44:35 - WORDS AND KNOWLEDGE IN STATUTE.

44:37 - THE LEGISLATURE WENT FROM A

44:38 - TRUSTED TO SURE A QUOTE PUBLIC

44:40 - OFFICIAL OR PUBLIC EMPLOYEE, AS

44:42 - A TEEN FINANCIAL GAIN.

44:45 - THEREFORE BEEN

44:46 - LEGISLATED DETERMINATION IS

44:48 - THAT YOUR SON IS NOT ANY

44:50 - BROADER CIRCUMSTANCES SUCH AS

44:52 - ANY TIME COMPENSATIONS PETER

44:53 - RECEIVED IN VIOLATION OF THE

44:56 - ACT. FRANKLY THAT PHRASE

44:58 - TO OBTAIN WE HAVE

44:59 - REALLY RESTRICTS THE LIST OF

45:01 - RECIPIENTS TO ONLY THE PUBLIC

45:03 - OFFICIAL OR PUBLIC EMPLOYEE.

45:04 - WE'RE IN MINIMUM REQUIRES

45:06 - PUBLIC OFFICIAL REPUBLICAN

45:07 - PARTY TO COME INTO CONTACT WITH

45:09 - THE COMPENSATION.

45:11 - REVENUE DOESN'T SUPPORT THAT

45:12 - AND THEREFORE THE AN

45:14 - INTERPRETATION OF THE STATUTE

45:15 - IS A FOUNDER. THE COMMISSION

45:19 - AND THE COURT.

45:22 - LANGUAGE TO LOSE 7.30. DO OUR

45:25 - INSTITUTION FOR

45:26 - ANY QUOTE AND IN TRUE GAME

45:28 - BENEFITING THE PUBLIC OFFICIAL

45:29 - REPUBLICANS WILL HE REMEMBERED

45:31 - HIS IMMEDIATE FAMILY TO SCHOOL.

45:33 - THAT'S ACTUALLY FROM THE

45:34 - COMMONWEALTH COURT DECISION

45:35 - PAGES. 2425 OF THE MEMBERS OF

45:38 - THE CANYON.

45:40 - THE LAND THAT LEGISLATIVE

45:41 - OPTION WAS PURSUED WASN'T

45:43 - ELECTED BY THE

45:43 - GENERAL ASSEMBLY. IT IS NOT

45:45 - WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF EITHER

45:47 - THE COMMISSION OR THE

45:48 - COMMONWEALTH COURT TO ENSURE

45:50 - THE LANGUAGE OF THE STATUTE.

45:52 - >>THANK YOU. MISTER NG WHO WILL

45:55 - BEGIN THE QUESTIONING YES THIS

45:58 - TIME.

46:00 - >>THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE.

46:02 - GOOD MORNING COUNCIL.

46:03 - >>WHO REALLY.

46:05 - >>THERE ARE CASES.

46:07 - >>OUT THERE. WE'RE A PUBLIC

46:09 - OFFICIAL

46:10 - AS.

46:11 - >>CHANGE IT TO OFFER SOMEONE

46:13 - CAME TO BENEFIT FOR SOMEONE WHO

46:15 - MAY OR MAY NOT BE A FAMILY

46:17 - MEMBER AND THEN A PUBLIC

46:19 - OFFICIAL RECEIVES A LOOK AT

46:22 - RECEIVE SOME SORT OF FINANCIAL

46:24 - GAIN GROUND THAT

46:26 - I MEANT THAT IS CLEARLY NOT THE

46:28 - CASE HERE IS THAT CORRECT SIR.

46:34 - >>THERE ARE OTHER FOLKS IT'S

46:36 - UNDER PERCENT.

46:40 - I WANTED TO ADDRESS TO TO SHUN

46:42 - SEPARATE.

46:46 - I GUESS WE'RE WHAT I'M GETTING

46:48 - AT IS.

46:51 - UNDER THE PLAIN MEANING OF THE

46:52 - ACTOR WHO REALLY DID ENOUGH

46:54 - TAXED.

46:56 - AND UNDER THE FACTS OF THIS

46:58 - CASE GIVEN CRIMES TOO.

47:00 - THE MISCONDUCT AND A VIOLATION

47:02 - OF THE ACT.

47:03 - THERE IS NOT GETTING REPS TO

47:05 - JUNE. THE TRENDS. I WOULD SHOW

47:08 - US ALL AND NOT RECEIVED A

47:10 - GRANT. SET

47:13 - YOUR ARGUMENT.

47:13 - >>I THOUGHT IT WAS ISSUES NOT

47:15 - JUST.

47:17 - >>NOTHING FOR YOU.

47:19 - >>IT WOULD USE IS

47:20 - DOWN HERE.

47:21 - >>I DON'T FEEL THAT THEY CANNOT

47:23 - LOOK AT THE SACKING IT TO THEM

47:25 - IF YOU ARE DOING 72. IT INTO

47:28 - THE OPENING MINUTE. THAT'S

47:30 - CORRECT ARE

47:30 - THEY ON AND IT'S AND SCIENTISTS

47:34 - CAN'T DIE THAT'S IN THIS CASE

47:36 - ON.

47:38 - A REVIEW OF

47:39 - THE TIME SHE THOR PERSONNEL

47:41 - RECORDS I I THE OF OTHER

47:45 - EMPLOYEES

47:46 - HAPPENED EASTON IT'S REALLY

47:48 - ESSENTIALLY I'M IN THE ORDINARY

47:50 - COURSE OF BUSINESS AND THERE'S

47:52 - NO

47:52 - EVIDENCE THAT THIS AND WHAT IS

47:55 - IT ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN ANY

47:57 - OTHER EMPLOYEE WHO SENT THAT

47:59 - SOME CLASS OF

48:00 - INDIVIDUALS WHOSE PERSONNEL

48:03 - RECORDS ON THE ACCOUNTANT

48:04 - REVIEW

48:05 - AND CORRECT.

48:07 - >>YOU'RE ASKED TO SPEAK TO HER

48:09 - AND IT IS I IF I UNDERSTAND

48:11 - YOUR ARGUMENT ABSENT EVIDENCE

48:14 - OF SOME SPARE AND TREATMENT.

48:16 - IN THIS CASE SIDE.

48:19 - THIS STATUTE. I

48:20 - CLEARLY IN CONGRESS AS

48:23 - I AND AFFIRMS THE PROPRIETY OF

48:26 - THE KIND OF THING WHICH YOUR

48:28 - CLIENT WAS INVOLVED IN THIS

48:29 - CASE.

48:32 - >>IN THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE TO

48:34 - SUPPORT IT CONCLUSION YOU

48:36 - TRICKED US

48:36 - AND PROVIDE ME THAT THERE

48:38 - CANNOT BE OPENING THAT YOU

48:40 - FINALLY PUT THE REQUIREMENTS.

48:43 - THE THRESHOLD UNQUOTE COMMUNITY

48:45 - INTO CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO BE

48:47 - SOMETHING MORE THAN

48:48 - HE TREATED. WITHIN A CLASSIC

48:51 - REQUIRED TO BE TREATED

48:52 - DIFFERENTLY FROM REMEMBER THE

48:54 - CLASS THIS CLASS HAS IT EXCUSES

48:56 - OF ALL FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES

48:58 - UNDER MISTER CIVICS IMMEDIATE

48:59 - SUPERVISION AND THERE'S JUST NO

49:01 - EVIDENCE CONCRETE. THE HOURS

49:03 - WERE BY OR PAID FOR.

49:06 - TO MISTER CIVICS AND VERSUS

49:08 - ANYBODY ELSE ONLY A ON THE ROAD

49:10 - FOR HIM TO MISS THE CYNICS.

49:13 - PLUS A VISION. I BELIEVE THAT

49:15 - THERE HAS TO BE SO FOR THAT

49:17 - THEY DID IF THERE IS NO PROOF

49:19 - SHE RULED HERE I THINK THE THE

49:21 - STATUE REQUIRES SOMETHING

49:22 - BEYOND THAT THRESHOLD. IT'S

49:24 - VERY CLEAR

49:24 - FROM THE DEFINITION AND

49:26 - SELFRIDGES THIS TERM DOES NOT

49:28 - INCLUDE SEN.

49:30 - THAT MEANS BILL ABOVE THAT IS

49:33 - REALLY GET INTO THE ZONE

49:34 - WHETHER YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF

49:35 - INTEREST I CAN BE CERTAIN OF

49:37 - THAT PERCENT BASIS OR SOMETHING

49:39 - TO THAT EFFECT.

49:40 - THERE'S JUST NO TRIP THAT HAD

49:41 - TO BE DONE ABOUT THEM AND THAT

49:42 - RUSSIA WILL.

49:43 - >>OK THANK YOU THANK YOU

49:44 - COUNCIL.

49:45 - >>THANK YOU JUSTICE DAUGHERTY.

49:49 - >>I'VE BEEN QUESTIONS COUNCIL.

49:55 - >>JOHNSON AND

49:56 - JUSTICE COUNCIL. THERE'S

49:58 - SOMETHING TO BE UNITY IN THE

49:59 - STATUTE OR BEING ON A GREAT.

50:02 - YOU KNOW HIM.

50:07 - IT'S HARD

50:13 - >>I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER

50:13 - FEEDBACK. SO SOURCES HERE.

50:18 - USES OR AND IT

50:23 - WILL SERVE.

50:25 - BUT YOU'D GIVEN THEIR NORMAL

50:26 - ACCORDING TO THE COURT OF

50:27 - MEETING.

50:28 - >>FOR EXAMPLE THAT IT HAS TO

50:32 - WELL THE CITY.

50:33 - SOMETHING THAT SAYS HE WAS NOT

50:35 - TREATED TO THE SAME DEGREE IS

50:36 - A CLASS OVER THE GROUP WITH

50:38 - INCLUDES A PUBLIC OFFICIAL

50:40 - REMEMBERS HIS MEDIA FAMILY.

50:41 - IN HIS SPEECH TO THE SAME

50:42 - DEGREE. I DON'T THINK YOU GET

50:45 - TO THIS OR THAT CONFLICT

50:47 - PROBLEM HAS TO BE SOMETHING

50:48 - THAT SAYS.

50:53 - THANK FROM A JUDGE SAYS.

50:57 - THEIRS A LACK OF CASES ACTUALLY

50:59 - GET INTO THAT DISTINCTION.

51:01 - WHAT IS THE

51:02 - MEANING YOUR BEING IN THE SAME

51:04 - CLASS TO THE SAME DEGREE

51:05 - AFFECTED BY THE ACTION FIRST

51:07 - YEAR VERY FEW CASES THAT I

51:08 - FOUND THE DEAL WITH THAT AT

51:10 - LEAST IN PENNSYLVANIA.

51:14 - JUST AS MONDAY.

51:19 - I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. YES IS

51:22 - THERE.

51:23 - LET ME TAKE YOU BACK TO THE

51:25 - FIRST ARGUMENT THAT YOU MADE

51:27 - AT LIFE. AND YOU YOU LOOK AT

51:30 - 11, I WAS 7.13 IN IT YOU

51:32 - POINTED OUT THE LANGUAGE PUBLIC

51:34 - EMPLOYEES AND FINANCIAL GAIN.

51:37 - >>BUT YOU DIDN'T GO FURTHER IT

51:38 - SAYS IN VIOLATION OF THIS

51:40 - CHAPTER.

51:41 - CHAPTER 11 AND THAT INCLUDES A

51:44 - 11 O 3 WHICH SAYS

51:47 - AND THAT IT'S

51:49 - VIOLATION OF THE ETHICS AT TO

51:51 - ENGAGE IN A CONFLICT OF

51:52 - INTEREST AND THEN 11 '02 THAT

51:54 - DEFINES CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN

51:56 - SAYS TO PROVIDE PRIVATE PQ

52:00 - NEARY GAME GO HAMMER OF YOUR

52:02 - IMMEDIATE FAMILY. SO

52:04 - I'M A LITTLE LOST UNDERSTAND

52:06 - THAT THAT THAT ANALYSIS

52:08 - REQUIRES A COUPLE

52:09 - STEPS BUT WE'RE CAPED WILL TAKE

52:12 - A COUPLE STEPS. WHY WHY DOESN'T

52:14 - THAT INDICATE THAT AID YOUR

52:16 - CLIENT

52:17 - VIOLATED CHAPTER BY ENGAGING IN

52:20 - A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ALLOWING

52:22 - PRIVATE REGAINED HIS SON.

52:26 - >>AND MISTER PRESIDENT IS

52:27 - ESSENTIALLY THE POSITION TAKEN

52:28 - BY THE COMMISSION ITSELF

52:29 - OF COURSE BUT THE FACT OF THE

52:31 - MATTER IS UNDER THE RESTITUTION

52:35 - 107 13. YOU HAVE TO BOTH BY LEE

52:37 - THE ACT ITSELF.

52:39 - AND YOU HEARD BEFORE WITH THE

52:40 - CLASSIFICATION OF BEING A

52:41 - PUBLIC OFFICIAL

52:41 - PUBLIC EMPLOYEE WHO HAS

52:43 - ATTAINED FINANCIAL YOU IRISH

52:45 - LIBYA. YES,

52:48 - I AM.

52:49 - >>LET ME INTERRUPT I UNDERSTAND

52:50 - THAT NO I THINK YOU WOULD BE

52:52 - CORRECT. YOU MAY BE CORRECT

52:55 - THAT WOULD BE YOU'D BE CORRECT.

52:56 - BUT FOR THE FACT THAT IT SEEMS

52:58 - AS IF THIS ACT.

53:00 - REDEFINES OR OR OR CLARIFIES IS

53:03 - JUST AS MIKE

53:04 - SAID YOU I CASUALLY AMBIGUOUS

53:06 - BY SAYING IF THERE'S A

53:07 - FINANCIAL GAIN TO YOUR SON

53:09 - THAT IS A FINANCIAL GAIN TO YOU

53:11 - AND I AGREE THE LEGISLATIVE

53:12 - CONSTRUCTIONS SUCH NATIONAL I'M

53:14 - TRYING

53:14 - TO EXPLORE. 11 '02 MORE THAN

53:17 - 11 '07. 7 IS THE ACTUAL

53:20 - LANGUAGE OF SENSE FOR THE

53:21 - RESTITUTION POWER. THERE'S NO

53:24 - ADDITIONAL WORDS OR LANGUAGE IN

53:25 - THAT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED THE

53:26 - RESULT OF. PROBABLY

53:29 - LEGISLATIVE COMPROMISES

53:30 - CERTAINLY DISCUSSION WHEN THEY

53:32 - SETTLE ON WORDS AND WHERE A

53:33 - PUBLIC OFFICIAL REPUBLICAN PLOY

53:35 - EAT.

53:35 - >>AS A TEEN A

53:36 - FINANCIAL GAIN. THE ONLY TIME

53:39 - THAT THEY'RE ALLOWING

53:40 - INSTITUTION OF THE ORDER

53:41 - NOTHING ELSE THAT THANK YOU

53:43 - COUNCIL, THANK YOU CHIEF.

53:45 - >>THANK YOU I THANK YOU MISTER

53:46 - AGO IF YOU HAD THE

53:49 - FREE FROM AMR TO PASS SHE MAY

53:52 - SHUN WILL A TURN TO THE UP

53:55 - EARLY.

53:57 - >>I BELIEVE THE COURT ACTUALLY

53:58 - UNDERSTANDS THE ARGUMENT SIMPLY

54:00 - THE QUESTIONS IDENTIFY THE

54:01 - AREAS I THINK

54:03 - THEY'RE FULLY. FLESHED OUT IN

54:06 - BE WILLING TO SMEAR IT ON YOUR

54:07 - COMMUNITIES.

54:11 - >>AND MR. RANKING MURDER.

54:14 - >>WHEN YOU JUST DON'T THINK THE

54:16 - CHIEF JUSTICE. THE NAME PLEASE

54:17 - THE COURT.

54:18 - MINE IS JUST TRYING TO MURDER

54:19 - AND AN ASSISTANT COUNSEL FOR

54:20 - THE INVESTIGATIVE DIVISION, THE

54:22 - PENNSYLVANIA STATE ETHICS

54:23 - COMMISSION.

54:24 - THE RESTITUTION ORDERED IN THIS

54:25 - CASE PROPER BECAUSE SECTION 11

54:27 - IN 7.13 IS NOT AMBIGUOUS

54:30 - THE PALATE TAINT A FINANCIAL

54:32 - BENEFIT PERSON IN VIOLATION OF

54:34 - THE ETHICS ACT. AND JUST AS

54:36 - BEAR HAD BEEN NOW ON THE HEAD.

54:37 - WHEN HE SAID THAT THE B

54:40 - IMPORTANT LANGUAGE OF THIS

54:41 - SECTION OF THE LAW

54:43 - IS THAT ANY ORDER RESULTING

54:45 - FROM A FIGHT AND HAD A PUBLIC

54:46 - OFFICIAL REPUBLICAN COOLLY HAS

54:48 - A KEEN TO FINANCIAL GAIN IN

54:50 - VIOLATION OF THIS CHAPTER MAY

54:52 - REQUIRE RESTITUTION.

54:54 - THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN HOLDING

54:56 - THIS WAY SINCE RESTITUTION WAS

54:57 - ALLOWABLE BY THE COURTS.

55:00 - AFTER ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS TO

55:01 - THE ETHICS.

55:02 - AND THERE IS A DOCTRINE OF

55:03 - AGENCY DEFERENCE THAT I THINK

55:05 - SHOULD BE APPLIED TO THIS CASE.

55:07 - JUST LIKE IN THE REBEL VERSUS

55:08 - SEC DECISION THAT THIS COURSE

55:10 - HANDLE. OVER A DECADE AGO IN

55:12 - THAT CASE THE COURT. I DID

55:15 - DETERMINE WHAT I'M BUSINESS NET

55:17 - UNDER

55:17 - THE EFFORTS. WHETHER PROFITS

55:20 - FOR PROFIT BUSINESSES OR

55:21 - NONPROFIT BUSINESSES. COULD BE

55:23 - INCLUDED IN THE DEFINITION OF

55:25 - BUSINESS AND THE COURT. THIS

55:27 - COURT WENT INTO A AND THE

55:30 - NATIONAL SAYS AND FOUND

55:32 - THAT NONPROFIT BUSINESSES ARE

55:34 - ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT

55:35 - DEFINITION. WE USE THE DOCTRINE

55:37 - OF THE AGENCY THAT RUNS.

55:39 - WE ALL SEASON STATUTORY

55:40 - CONSTRUCTION. AND I THINK THE

55:43 - SAME THING CAN BE CAN BE USED

55:45 - HERE.

55:47 - THE COURT LOOKED AT THE

55:48 - POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES IN BE.

55:52 - AND HAS BEEN.

55:54 - >>WHAT WAS TO BE WHAT WAS GOING

55:56 - TO HAPPEN IF THEY RULE BIT

55:57 - NONPROFITS WERE NOT PART OF

55:59 - A BUSINESS AND SO IN THIS CASE

56:03 - IF YOU RULE THAT OUT A PUBLIC

56:04 - OFFICIAL CAN FUNNEL MONEY

56:06 - WHETHER IT'S LIKE IN THIS CASE

56:07 - THROUGH EMPLOYMENT.

56:08 - ONE OTHER CASES LIKE GIVING

56:09 - GRANTS TO THEIR BUSINESSES.

56:12 - YOU'RE OPENING THE FLOODGATES

56:13 - FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BE

56:15 - ABLE TO GO TO PUBLIC OFFICIALS

56:17 - I FAMILY MEMBERS WITH NO

56:18 - RECOURSE FOR THEM HAVING TO PAY

56:20 - IT BACK.

56:22 - WHAT THE COURT ALSO DIDN'T RUN

56:23 - DOWN WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IN THIS

56:25 - CASE. IF YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THE

56:26 - PURPOSE OF THE

56:28 - AND THAT IS THAT PUBLIC OFFICE

56:29 - IN PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT IS A

56:30 - PUBLIC TRUST. ANY VIOLATION OF

56:33 - THAT PUBLIC TRUST IS GOING

56:35 - TO DIMINISH THE EFFECTIVENESS

56:37 - OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS COMEDY.

56:39 - AND IF YOU HAVE PUBLIC

56:40 - OFFICIALS WHO ARE ABLE TO

56:42 - GIVE THEIR SONS JOBS IN THE WAY

56:44 - THAT THIS PUBLIC OFFICIAL GAVE

56:45 - HIS SON A JOB.

56:47 - THE SENTENCE

56:48 - UNTRUE TOWNSHIP PAID FLYER

56:49 - COURSE 3 MONTHS BEFORE THE SUN

56:51 - EVEN APPLY FOR JOBS. THE

56:52 - TOWNSHIP. THE SUN FILLED OUT AN

56:54 - APPLICATION AND IT WAS

56:55 - HIS FATHER. ON THE NEWS SIDE

56:57 - 70'S AFTERS APPLICATION 3

56:59 - MONTHS LATER WITHOUT ANY FORMAL

57:02 - RECORDED VOTE BY THE TOWNSHIP.

57:04 - THESE ARE ALL

57:05 - BAD ACTS THE CONSTANT USE OF

57:07 - OFFICES THERE ISN'T ENOUGH IF

57:09 - FINANCIAL GAIN. AND SO LEADING

57:12 - ON TO THE SECOND POINT. HIS SON

57:15 - WAS TREATED DIFFERENT.

57:16 - HIS FATHER CONCOCTED A SCHEME

57:18 - WHERE HE LOBBIED INDIVIDUAL

57:20 - TOWNSHIP SUPERVISORS. AND

57:23 - THE SCHEME HAS LAID OUT BY THE

57:24 - COMMONWEALTH COURT IN THE

57:24 - COMMISSION IN ITS ENTIRETY AND

57:26 - YOU CAN'T FORGET ABOUT THAT AND

57:28 - THIS IS FRANKEN MURDER.

57:32 - >>WE

57:32 - LOVE YOU, I'M PROMOTING BUT

57:34 - WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO RUSSIAN

57:37 - MINISTER WITH THAT. YES THIS

57:39 - TIME.

57:42 - >>MISTER FRANKEN BURGER.

57:44 - IT'S WHAT WE AGREE THERE WAS A

57:46 - VIOLATION OF THE ETHICS ACT.

57:49 - BUT YOU NOT AGREE RESTITUTION

57:53 - IS IN ORDER ARE THERE OTHER

57:55 - PENALTIES TO MISTER SENATE.

57:58 - >>WHILE THE PENALTIES THAT ARE

57:59 - AVAILABLE UNDER THE ETHICS ACT

58:01 - THAT THE COMMISSION.

58:04 - >>THEY CAN ISSUE A PUBLIC

58:05 - ORDER. WHICH THEY

58:07 - HAD DONE. THEY CAN RE FROM.

58:10 - THE CASE TO

58:11 - FOR BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S

58:13 - OFFICE OR THE ATTORNEY

58:14 - GENERAL'S OFFICE. BUT THAT'S

58:17 - REALLY IT AND THEN.

58:18 - THE APPELLANT AND HIS SON WOULD

58:20 - GET AWAY WITH MONEY THAT THEY

58:21 - ARE IN THE WEEK.

58:24 - >>YOU USE THE PHRASE.

58:26 - >>FINAL.

58:27 - >>MONEYS TO HIS SON THAT HE

58:30 - USED THIS SCHEME. JUST FUNNEL

58:32 - MONEY THROUGH.

58:34 - >>THERE'S NO EVIDENCE ON THIS

58:35 - RECORD WHAT I HAVE READ THERE

58:38 - WAS ANY FUNNELING HALL. NOT MY

58:41 - PROBLEM WITH RESTITUTION

58:43 - REMEDY.

58:44 - THE SUN IS NOT DONE.

58:47 - THERE'S NO INDICATION THAT HE'S

58:49 - GETTING PAID. NEXT TO HIS

58:51 - FATHER, HIS FATHER GOT SOME

58:53 - FINANCIAL GAINS FROM

58:54 - IT SO I'M HARD PRESSED UNDER

58:57 - THE LANGUAGE OF THE ACT TO SEE

58:59 - WERE ARRESTED TO SHUN AND PCN.

59:02 - THE NEW ACTUALLY THERE'S

59:04 - SOMETHING IN

59:05 - THE RECORD.

59:06 - >>AND WHEN PALIN WAS LOBBYING

59:09 - ONE OF THE

59:09 - OTHER SUPERVISORS. SUITS AND

59:12 - THE HIGHER HIS SON BECAUSE HE

59:13 - KNEW THAT HE COULDN'T VOTE ON A

59:14 - HUGE SCREEN. AND HE SAID THAT

59:17 - HIS SON REALLY NEEDED THE JOB

59:18 - BECAUSE THE SUN WAS GOING

59:19 - THROUGH A TOUGH TIME.

59:21 - >>AND.

59:22 - >>UNFORTUNATELY NOT ALL THE

59:25 - PEOPLE IN PENNSYLVANIA WHO ARE

59:26 - EMPLOYED IN WHO ARE GOING

59:28 - THROUGH TOUGH TIMES.

59:30 - FAMILY MEMBER WHO'S A PUBLIC

59:31 - OFFICIAL. YOU CAN USE THEIR

59:33 - POSITION ILLEGALLY YET BEEN A

59:35 - JOB TO HELP THEM THROUGH THOSE

59:37 - TOUGH TIMES.

59:38 - >>AND I UNDERSTAND THAT SERVE

59:40 - YOUR ARGUMENT

59:41 - GOES TO A VIOLATION OF THE

59:44 - ETHICS ACT, NOT TO THE REMEDY

59:46 - OF PROSTITUTION SETTLE.

59:51 - >>I DISAGREE WITH A AROUND A

59:52 - BIT. IT'S NEW TO THANK YOU.

59:55 - THANK YOU COUNCIL.

59:57 - >>THANK YOU. YES HAS DONE HERE.

59:59 - 300 >>AND NO QUESTIONS KATE

01:00 - 03.130 THANK YOU. THANK YOU JUSTICE

01:00 - 06.470 DARKENING. COUNCIL.

01:00 - 09.670 >>THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS

01:00 - 12.800 THESE CALORIE WAS ONE A 126,000

01:00 - 13.760 HOURS OF WHAT MOST.

01:00 - 15.920 >>THAT WAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT THE

01:00 - 18.350 HE RECEIVED AND THAT WAS ABOUT

01:00 - 19.670 87 SCRAPPED.

01:00 - 21.340 >>THE BEST OF THE 3 YEAR

01:00 - 23.080 PERIOD. AND YOU KEEP REFERRING

01:00 - 24.810 TO HIS ILLEGAL RECEIPT HE WAS

01:00 - 26.970 IN FACT. THANKFULLY EMPLOYED

01:00 - 29.150 RECEIVING A CHECK CORRECT.

01:00 - 32.210 AND HE WAS

01:00 - 33.830 RECEIVING SOMEWHERE CHECK SUCH

01:00 - 35.470 AS EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE, BUT IN

01:00 - 36.950 A DIFFERENT CAPACITY WHO WORKS

01:00 - 37.550 FOR THE COUNTY.

01:00 - 40.200 >>CORRECT IN BUT THE OTHER

01:00 - 41.790 EMPLOYEES WERE NOT HIRED BE A

01:00 - 44.110 USE OF. THE USE OF OFFICE BY

01:00 - 44.610 THEIR FATHER.

01:00 - 48.100 >>NO REALLY YOU'RE ALLEGING A

01:00 - 50.090 FEW DEFENSES NEPOTISM AS

01:00 - 50.780 OPPOSED.

01:00 - 56.340 A CONFLICT ORDERED ARE YOU

01:00 - 57.170 SAYING THEY'RE ONE AND THE

01:00 - 57.520 SAME.

01:00 - 59.870 >>IN THIS INSTANCE, THERE ONE

01:00 - 00.800 IN THE SCENE BUT

01:01 - 03.400 NAPA BUT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST

01:01 - 03.650 ISN'T

01:01 - 05.560 ALWAYS NEPOTISM AND THAT THAT

01:01 - 06.690 ISN'T IT ISN'T ALWAYS A

01:01 - 08.010 CONFLICT OF INTEREST BECAUSE

01:01 - 09.220 THERE ARE WAYS THAT HIS SON

01:01 - 10.340 COULD HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE

01:01 - 11.790 TOWNSHIP THAT WOULD NOT HAVE

01:01 - 13.870 BEEN A PUBLIC INTEREST IF HE

01:01 - 15.750 WOULD HAVE IS THAT THE FATHER

01:01 - 18.080 WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN

01:01 - 20.040 LOBBYING THE OTHER SUPERVISORS

01:01 - 21.430 NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN REMOVING

01:01 - 22.830 THE PRISON POLICY.

01:01 - 24.550 IT PROHIBITED THAT THE OTHER

01:01 - 25.970 SUPERVISORS FROM HIRING.

01:01 - 27.810 THOSE ACTIONS ARE WHAT

01:01 - 30.270 CONSTANTLY USES OF OFFICE AT

01:01 - 32.030 THE BEGINNING OF THIS THAT

01:01 - 33.700 DIDN'T MAKE IT ILLEGAL UNDER

01:01 - 34.340 THE APP.

01:01 - 36.180 >>AND THEN WHERE DO YOU FIND

01:01 - 37.990 THE JUSTIFICATION OR ORDERED

01:01 - 40.390 THE BASIS FOR A 30,000 MISTER

01:01 - 42.010 BUSH INTEREST ON 3 YEAR

01:01 - 44.390 AGGREGATE 126.

01:01 - 46.060 >>THANK YOU YOUR

01:01 - 49.550 IN THE ORDER I FIRST OF ALL THE

01:01 - 52.410 STATUTE, 11 OH, 7.13. I'D SAYS

01:01 - 54.820 THAT THE COMMISSION MAY ORDER

01:01 - 56.320 RESTITUTION SO IT IS

01:01 - 58.880 DISCRETIONARY AND UNFORTUNATELY

01:01 - 59.790 IN THEIR ORDER.

01:02 - 01.420 THE COMMISSION DID NOT GO INTO

01:02 - 02.740 DETAIL ABOUT HOW THAT CAME

01:02 - 05.370 ABOUT THAT $30,000 IN YOUR.

01:02 - 08.180 NO ANYTHING THAT I CAN SEATS

01:02 - 10.230 THAT WOULD BE SPECULATION AS I

01:02 - 11.830 WAS THE PROSECUTOR IN THE CASE

01:02 - 13.490 IS NOT THE FACT FINDER AND THE

01:02 - 16.270 COMMISSION. WE'RE NOT GOING TO

01:02 - 17.050 GET SNOW.

01:02 - 18.730 I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW THAT

01:02 - 21.510 $30,000 FIGURE WAS I THE TERM.

01:02 - 26.240 >>I DON'T THINK THE HUMAN

01:02 - 27.870 SPIRIT OVER THE ACTUAL FIGURE

01:02 - 29.780 THOUGH AS IT STARTED THE CASE.

01:02 - 33.880 I KNOW IT'S A FACTOR

01:02 - 35.650 RESTITUTION SOUTH JUSTICE

01:02 - 36.090 WHACKED.

01:02 - 38.520 >>I THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE CAN

01:02 - 40.220 YOU HEAR ME COUNCIL. YES,

01:02 - 42.880 YOUR AGENDA. OKAY, BECAUSE MY

01:02 - 44.430 VIDEO IS DOWN FOR A MOMENT ON

01:02 - 46.630 THIS END. COUNCIL YOU.

01:02 - 50.760 HAVE TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT BAD

01:02 - 53.040 ACTS AND CETERA. BUT THE

01:02 - 55.520 ISSUE HERE ISN'T THE MORAL

01:02 - 56.010 BLAME

01:02 - 58.540 WORTHINESS OF MISTER CEVIK

01:02 - 00.190 SENIORS ACTIONS. THE ISSUE FOR

01:03 - 00.570 US IS

01:03 - 02.880 THE STATUTE WHICH WE HAVE TO

01:03 - 04.310 CONSTRUE RADLEY THAN

01:03 - 05.810 RECONSTRUCT WOULD YOU AGREE.

01:03 - 10.570 IN THAT REGARD.

01:03 - 13.880 WHY IS IT SO ABSURD THAT THE

01:03 - 16.620 GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO CONSIDER

01:03 - 17.860 THAT IT IS POSSIBLE.

01:03 - 19.660 >>THAT IN.

01:03 - 21.570 >>THE DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, THE

01:03 - 23.070 GENERAL ASSEMBLY USED IN

01:03 - 24.110 SECTIONS 11 OH

01:03 - 27.650 2.11 '07. THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

01:03 - 29.080 MIGHT HAVE CONSIDERED

01:03 - 32.650 5 YEAR PRISON SENTENCE AND OF

01:03 - 36.790 $10,000 I MIGHT BE SUFFICIENT.

01:03 - 41.940 RETURNS OR A V EMPLOYEE.

01:03 - 46.440 AND THAT RESTITUTION.

01:03 - 49.580 REACHING BEYOND

01:03 - 51.610 TO LOVE FAMILY MEMBERS WOULD

01:03 - 53.180 NOT BE NECESSARY THAT.

01:03 - 56.100 >>I THINK THAT THEY COULD HAVE

01:03 - 57.210 EASILY LEFT OUT

01:03 - 59.670 THE LANGUAGE IN SECTION, 11 OR

01:04 - 02.200 7.13, SAVING IN VIOLATION OF

01:04 - 04.180 THIS CHAPTER. IF THAT LANGUAGE

01:04 - 05.410 WASN'T THERE THEN MISTER

01:04 - 07.160 HEALY'S ARGUMENT, I'M NOT SURE

01:04 - 08.680 THE NIGHT THAT I CAN REALLY

01:04 - 10.160 HAVE A COUNTER AND YOU WILL.

01:04 - 11.820 >>WELL FOLLOWING UP ON THAT YOU

01:04 - 13.440 TALK YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE

01:04 - 15.190 IN VIOLATION OF THIS CHAPTER.

01:04 - 18.050 >>IT CAN BE IN VIOLATION OF THE

01:04 - 19.640 COSMOS BUT THERE STILL HAS TO

01:04 - 22.180 BE FINANCIAL. GAME IS THAT

01:04 - 22.600 CORRECT.

01:04 - 26.660 SO YOU CAN YOU HOW CAN YOU GET

01:04 - 27.690 US TO MAKE THE LEAP.

01:04 - 32.920 FINANCIAL GAME 2. CITIBANK THE

01:04 - 33.610 SUN.

01:04 - 37.640 JUMP FROM THAT TO FINANCIAL

01:04 - 38.790 GAIN TO 78.

01:04 - 43.800 I THINK THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT

01:04 - 45.370 IS THE THE USAGE OF THE WORD

01:04 - 46.290 AND THE STATUE WHICH IS THE

01:04 - 47.120 WORD OBTAIN.

01:04 - 49.290 >>IT'S NOT RECEIVE IF THE

01:04 - 51.550 WORKERS RECEIVE THEN.

01:04 - 54.250 THEN YOU AND MISTER HEALY WOULD

01:04 - 55.720 WOULD I THINK BE CORRUPT YOU

01:04 - 56.560 CAN'T MAKE THAT LEAP.

01:04 - 58.640 BUT BECAUSE THE WORDS OF TEEN I

01:04 - 59.800 CAN OBTAIN SOMETHING FOR

01:04 - 01.950 SOMEONE ELSE. EVERY TIME YOU

01:05 - 04.360 ORDER GROUND MY THE DELIVERY

01:05 - 06.810 MAN AND TEENS ME. A MEAL FROM

01:05 - 08.170 WHENEVER RESTAURANT HE GOES TO.

01:05 - 10.610 >>RIGHT AND IN THAT IN THAT

01:05 - 14.340 PRESUMABLY EVIDENCE WOULD HAVE

01:05 - 15.480 BEEN PUT ON

01:05 - 18.760 THAT THE FOOD WENT FROM THE.

01:05 - 21.370 MIDDLE PERSON TO THE END

01:05 - 22.220 CONSUMER RIGHT.

01:05 - 25.350 CORRECT I CAN ALSO KNOW THAT

01:05 - 26.110 YOU DON'T HAVE THAT IN THIS

01:05 - 27.060 RECORD DO YOU DON'T HAVE

01:05 - 29.650 EVIDENCE IN YOUR RECORD HERE OF

01:05 - 31.600 TRANSACTIONS, CONVEYING

01:05 - 33.600 THESE MONIES FROM SIMIC THE

01:05 - 35.140 SUNDA CIVIC THE FATHER DEAL.

01:05 - 37.360 I DO NOT. ALL RIGHT. WELL

01:05 - 38.620 THAT'S A BIG MISSING PIECE

01:05 - 41.230 ISN'T IT. I RESPECTFULLY

01:05 - 43.370 DISAGREE ON A IF I CAN CHANGE

01:05 - 44.920 MY GRUBHUB SCENARIO SECOND.

01:05 - 47.040 >>I CAN ALSO ORDER GRUBHUB AND

01:05 - 48.090 HAVE IT DELIVERED SOMEWHERE

01:05 - 50.280 ELSE. AND THEREFORE THE GRUBHUB

01:05 - 52.930 DELIVERY. HER SON IS OBTAINING

01:05 - 55.000 A SANDWICH OR SOMEONE ELSE.

01:05 - 00.160 >>THANK YOU JUST AS MONDAY.

01:06 - 04.200 I HAVE NO QUESTIONS

01:06 - 06.080 THANK YOU. THANK YOU JUST

01:06 - 08.050 DESPAIR AND THEN WILL CONCLUDE.

01:06 - 13.150 MISTER FRANKEN I'D LIKE TO.

01:06 - 14.540 >>LOOK AT

01:06 - 16.380 SECOND ISSUE.

01:06 - 17.800 >>WHICH IS

01:06 - 23.370 QUESTION OF THE FACT THAT THEY

01:06 - 25.550 THE FATHER REVIEW,

01:06 - 27.970 PAYROLL RECORDS AND IT OF

01:06 - 29.870 COURSE THERE'S THE EXCEPTION

01:06 - 32.070 THERE WHERE THE WOOD WHATEVER

01:06 - 33.370 HIS HEART SUPPORT.

01:06 - 36.580 WHERE YOU'RE JUST PART OF A AT

01:06 - 38.210 OF A BODY. SO

01:06 - 40.290 IF YOU'RE THE CHIEF

01:06 - 41.790 FINANCIAL OFFICER

01:06 - 45.460 OF APPLE. AND IT'S 100,000 OR

01:06 - 47.680 WHATEVER IT IS EMPLOYEES AND

01:06 - 48.560 AND YOU WILL

01:06 - 50.690 CASUALLY THROUGH THE COMPUTER

01:06 - 52.390 PRINT OUT AND SIGN YOUR NAME

01:06 - 55.010 VERIFY THAT YOU SEE IT WITH

01:06 - 56.140 WOULD THERE BE A VIOLATION

01:06 - 56.940 UNDER THAT SECTION.

01:06 - 59.740 >>NO YOUR HONOR BUT THAT IS A

01:06 - 00.830 IT'S ACTUALLY VERY DIFFERENT

01:07 - 02.830 FROM THE SITUATION THAT IS HERE

01:07 - 03.610 BEFORE THE COURT.

01:07 - 04.970 >>ALL RIGHT IN

01:07 - 07.230 2 CRANES CASE. YOU'RE THE

01:07 - 09.390 CONSENT COUNTY CONTROLLER OF

01:07 - 11.510 BERKS COUNTY AND YOUR HUSBAND'S

01:07 - 13.460 THE EMPLOYEE WAS INCORRECTLY

01:07 - 15.420 DECIDED THAT THERE WAS NO

01:07 - 17.770 VIOLATION BECAUSE AGAIN HE'S

01:07 - 19.970 PART OF THEM. SOME PARTS OF THE

01:07 - 23.110 STATUTE. I DISAGREE THAT HE'S

01:07 - 23.740 WHO.

01:07 - 27.340 I JUST CREATED THAT ARE I THINK

01:07 - 28.830 THAT THAT CASE WAS INCORRECTLY

01:07 - 30.710 DECIDED NUMBER ONE. BUT IF IT

01:07 - 33.300 WAS CORRECTLY DECIDED IT IS IT

01:07 - 34.390 REALLY IS STINGING TROUBLE FROM

01:07 - 36.070 THE CASE OF HIM GO AHEAD AND

01:07 - 38.000 DISTINGUISH IT. SHORT SO WHEN

01:07 - 40.050 THE CRANES CASE. HER HUSBAND

01:07 - 42.290 WAS WORKING FOR THAT GOVERNMENT

01:07 - 44.810 ON SUNDAY LONG BEFORE. SHE

01:07 - 46.450 BECAME A PUBLIC OFFICIAL OTHER.

01:07 - 47.950 AND IN THIS CASE.

01:07 - 50.730 THE APPELLANTS WAS A

01:07 - 52.790 PUBLIC OFFICIAL AND USED HIS

01:07 - 54.030 OFFICE TO HIRE A SON IN

01:07 - 55.460 VIOLATION OF THE ETHICS ACT.

01:07 - 57.870 AND THEN TREATED HIS SON

01:07 - 00.740 DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THE MONEY

01:08 - 01.560 BACK UP A SECOND.

01:08 - 05.600 HE DID NOT DO IN IN SIGN OFF ON

01:08 - 06.610 THE HOURS WORKED BY THESE

01:08 - 09.140 EMPLOYEES, ALTOGETHER YOU KNEW

01:08 - 10.810 EACH EMPLOYEES AND

01:08 - 12.630 SHE INDIVIDUAL. THERE'S THE

01:08 - 13.440 RECORD SAID THAT.

01:08 - 15.690 YES AND THAT THAT THAT IS WHAT

01:08 - 16.860 THE COMMONWEALTH COURT AND THE

01:08 - 17.620 COMMISSION BOTH

01:08 - 19.850 OUT I'VE ALREADY TOLD HIM ABOUT

01:08 - 21.280 THE NIGHT YOU TOLD ME CRANE

01:08 - 23.530 WRONGLY DECIDED YOU THINK RAINS

01:08 - 25.220 AND I BERKS COUNTY HAS A 100

01:08 - 27.160 EMPLOYEES WHICH IS NEXT.

01:08 - 29.340 AND IF THE CONTROLLER.

01:08 - 32.220 HAD WHO EACH RECORD EVENTUALLY

01:08 - 32.800 INSIDE.

01:08 - 35.570 THAT'S A FACT THAT SUSAN FROM

01:08 - 38.470 THE APPLE SCENARIO. YES, OKAY,

01:08 - 40.020 THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH ON

01:08 - 40.560 THE AIR.

01:08 - 42.900 >>MOST COUNTS. SO.

01:08 - 50.660 MR. BERNABE EARLIER ALLOWED.

01:08 - 51.790 UNDER.

01:08 - 53.280 PROTOCOL.

01:08 - 55.290 >>MY MOTHER TO INCLUDE A FEW

01:08 - 57.730 MIKE IN HOT MOVIE.

01:08 - 59.310 >>AND HERE NOW JUST TAKE A

01:08 - 59.690 MOMENT.

01:09 - 02.100 THE PURPOSE OF THE ETHICS ACT

01:09 - 03.810 IS TO ENSURE THAT THE MOST

01:09 - 04.990 PUBLIC OFFICIALS OF PUBLIC

01:09 - 06.750 EMPLOYEES ARE NOT USING THEIR

01:09 - 07.940 POSITIONS FOR THE FINANCIAL

01:09 - 08.460 BENEFIT

01:09 - 10.500 OF THEMSELVES. IMMEDIATE FAMILY

01:09 - 12.480 MEMBERS OR BUSINESSES THAT DAY

01:09 - 15.060 SO IF YOU FIND IN FAVOR OF THE

01:09 - 16.680 TOWN THIS IS YOU WILL

01:09 - 18.160 DAMAGE THAT PUBLIC TRUST IN

01:09 - 18.270 THEIR

01:09 - 21.040 PUBLIC OFFICIALS. AND IT'S TIME

01:09 - 22.200 TO SHOW FOR THE CONTINUED

01:09 - 24.170 SUCCESS, I WANT TO ASK YOU TO

01:09 - 25.280 FUND MCCONNELL'S COURT'S

01:09 - 26.340 DECISION THANK YOU.

01:09 - 28.760 >>THANK YOU, THANKS TO A.

01:09 - 31.530 BOTH THE COUNCIL. DREW THE

01:09 - 33.570 ARGUMENT AND THE OTHER.

01:09 - 38.080 WE'RE NOT STARTING AT 11:00AM.

01:09 - 42.570 >>TUNE IN THIS SUNDAY AT

01:09 - 44.860 05:00PM FOR MONEY SMARTS WITH

01:09 - 46.460 MATT. YOU LEARN ABOUT

01:09 - 49.200 INVESTING. I RAISE REDUCING

01:09 - 51.400 TAXES. RETIREMENT INCOME

01:09 - 52.990 PRESERVING YOUR STATE

01:09 - 55.320 AND MORE EVERY EPISODE IS FULL

01:09 - 57.210 OF GOOD SOLID USEFUL

01:09 - 59.530 INFORMATION. SO TUNE IN BEFORE

01:09 - 01.590 DINNER THIS SUNDAY AT 05:00PM

01:10 - 02.450 TO MONEY SMARTS

01:10 - 04.550 WITH MATT. ON THIS CHANNEL, NEW

01:10 - 05.780 YORK PENNSYLVANIA CABLE

01:10 - 06.150 NETWORK.

01:10 - 13.010 >>IT CERTAINLY SEEMED JF VERSUS

01:10 - 13.130 THE

01:10 - 16.080 DEPARTMENT OF SERVICES ARE IAN

01:10 - 18.170 BEHALF AND IS ALREADY WRECKED

01:10 - 20.650 REBECCA MILLER. EARLY ON YOU

01:10 - 22.950 HAVE ONLY IS RISK FOR ELI.

01:10 - 25.820 A GOOD

01:10 - 31.760 >>A CHILD PROTECTIVE

01:10 - 34.470 SERVICES LAW. THE DEPARTMENT OF

01:10 - 36.280 HUMAN SERVICES MAINTAINS ITS

01:10 - 38.880 DISPLAYED DATA BREACH WHICH

01:10 - 41.030 INCLUDES REPORTS. COUNT.

01:10 - 44.030 IN THIS TRACKING SYSTEM

01:10 - 46.320 FOUNDED REPORTS. OUR

01:10 - 47.430 DISTINGUISHED FROM OTHER

01:10 - 49.760 CATEGORIES REPORTS SO SHE HAS

01:10 - 52.370 INDICATED OR ON FOUNDED WORK.

01:10 - 55.770 REPORT IS FOUNDED WHERE

01:10 - 57.910 YOU'RE EITHER WHERE THERE HAS

01:10 - 59.850 BEEN EITHER AS JUDY IT IS

01:10 - 02.720 FOR EDUCATION OR ACCEPTANCE

01:11 - 04.020 INTO AN EXCEL THE

01:11 - 05.760 REHABILITATIVE DISPOSITION

01:11 - 06.410 PROGRAM.

01:11 - 09.180 I NEED YOU TO CATION WILL REACH

01:11 - 11.700 4 SECONDS. IT INVOLVES THE SAME

01:11 - 13.870 FACTS OR CIRCUMSTANCES BLOCK

01:11 - 15.850 THE ALLEGATION. CHILD ABUSE.

01:11 - 18.710 THE REPORT WAS MADE THAT UP

01:11 - 20.200 REALLY COMMITTED OUT OF YOU.

01:11 - 23.080 SHE WAS SUBSEQUENTLY SHOT IN

01:11 - 25.520 GRANTING SUMMARY REHABILITATIVE

01:11 - 26.930 DISPOSITION PURPOSE.

01:11 - 29.520 THE ISSUE PRESENTED.

01:11 - 31.960 CONCERNS WHETHER AFTER LEE WAS

01:11 - 32.710 ENTITLED TO

01:11 - 34.980 A HEARING. YOU DETERMINE YOUR

01:11 - 36.240 FOR ACCEPTANCE INTO THEIR

01:11 - 38.930 PROGRAM SUPPORTED THE LABELING

01:11 - 41.210 OF THE REPORT UNFOUNDED.

01:11 - 45.580 I WOULD I WOULD TO INTRODUCE

01:11 - 48.200 YOURSELF. BEGIN HERE ARE YOU.

01:11 - 51.590 WE SUPPORT.

01:11 - 53.080 >>MY NAME IS REBECCA TAYLOR,

01:11 - 54.260 NOT REPRESENT THE DEPARTMENT OF

01:11 - 56.680 THE CHURCH. AN ADMINISTRATIVE

01:11 - 58.470 HEARING AND NOT FLAT I'M IN

01:11 - 00.060 TOWN. WORK WHEN THE

01:12 - 02.500 RECORDING SOUNDED ON EXCEPT IN

01:12 - 04.560 THE NEXT HOUR A DEGREE OVER IT.

01:12 - 07.030 AND THE PERPETRATOR AND THE

01:12 - 07.510 REASON

01:12 - 10.320 FOR ENTRY. IT'S THE SAME JOSHUA

01:12 - 12.490 CIRCUITS IS THAT MY PURPOSE.

01:12 - 15.000 THIS IS IMPORTANT BUT CLIMBING

01:12 - 16.130 TO THE TOP TICKET SERVICE.

01:12 - 18.280 YEAH, AND THE INTENT OF THE

01:12 - 20.020 LEGISLATURE. IF AMENDMENT OF

01:12 - 20.710 THE DEFINITION.

01:12 - 25.000 CBS ON SUNDAY DEMANDED 2030

01:12 - 27.030 ALLOWS FOR WORK WE FOUND IT,

01:12 - 29.420 IT'S IN 2, 3, AND A

01:12 - 31.040 ARE D AS LONG AS THE FACTS AND

01:12 - 32.560 CIRCUMSTANCES THE UNDERLYING

01:12 - 32.940 IT.

01:12 - 37.160 COMMONWEALTH COURT REVERSED THE

01:12 - 38.180 DECISION OF THE DEPARTMENT'S

01:12 - 39.780 PAIR OF HEARINGS AND APPEALS

01:12 - 41.280 AND REQUIRED A HEARING IN THIS

01:12 - 42.290 CASE BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT

01:12 - 44.960 EDUCATED ACT FOUNDER ERIK D A

01:12 - 46.850 WHICH IS NOT GENERALLY PART OF

01:12 - 49.340 THE ACCELERATED IT PROCESS.

01:12 - 51.820 IN A CANYON COMMONWEALTH OR

01:12 - 53.280 EMPHASIZE HER. THE FIRST

01:12 - 54.870 SENTENCE OF SOME PARAGRAPH ONE

01:12 - 55.920 OF THE DEFINITION OF THAT

01:12 - 57.540 REPORT. THERE'S BEEN A HUGE

01:12 - 00.030 ISSUE EDUCATION. I THINK THAT

01:13 - 01.150 I'LL MAKE A SEPARATE

01:13 - 03.590 REPORT, YOU AND HE SHOULD

01:13 - 04.640 BOUNCE IN FACTUAL

01:13 - 05.360 CIRCUMSTANCES.

01:13 - 08.890 BUT THE AIR AND THE PROVISION

01:13 - 10.700 IS FOUND IN SOME AIRCRAFT TOO,

01:13 - 12.490 AND USUALLY THE CASE IN REQUIRE

01:13 - 14.020 MINUTE PER HOUR AND.

01:13 - 17.490 YEAH AND I INTERVIEWED A

01:13 - 19.170 DEFINITION AND REPORT THE

01:13 - 20.790 LEGISLATURE ESTABLISHED ENTRY

01:13 - 22.630 AND ENERGY SHOULD THE GROUND

01:13 - 25.240 WORK ON A CHOPPY SURE WHY ARE

01:13 - 26.490 DUE TO HEAT IT BACK WHERE

01:13 - 28.290 TRAVEL WORKING IN A

01:13 - 30.200 FAMILY THAT AND THEN THE

01:13 - 32.160 LEGISLATURE INTENDED 2013.

01:13 - 34.570 MUCH LIKE ONE OF THE PURPOSES

01:13 - 37.880 OF AIR D IS TO ALLOW STATION

01:13 - 39.460 BUT ULTIMATELY GET A CLEAN

01:13 - 41.610 SLATE OR WE'RE GOING TO ERR D

01:13 - 42.640 DOES NOT HAVE THE

01:13 - 44.520 PERMANENT AND ONCE THEY ARE DUE

01:13 - 45.400 6 EFFORT TO

01:13 - 49.310 BARNES RICHARD PENSKE REMOVAL

01:13 - 49.920 OF THAT CAR.

01:13 - 53.510 CRIMINAL COURT IN ITS DECISION

01:13 - 55.290 BROWN REACH OF ITS PRIOR

01:13 - 56.850 DECISION. WE'RE DETERMINED THAT

01:13 - 58.260 A PERPETRATOR OF CHILD ABUSE

01:13 - 00.780 WITHIN TITLE TOO MUCH. YOU KNOW

01:14 - 01.700 WE'RE GOING TO TERMINATE THE

01:14 - 03.170 UNDERLYING JUDICIALLY ISSUED.

01:14 - 07.200 WHO CAN BOTH OF THOSE CASES

01:14 - 08.950 WERE DECIDED WE'LL SEE YES OUR

01:14 - 11.510 MANDATE INCLUDE ENTRY AIR.

01:14 - 14.620 AND OUR MATERIAL TO SEE REALLY

01:14 - 15.840 DISTINGUISHABLE FROM THIS.

01:14 - 20.210 >>I

01:14 - 22.150 >>LET ME GIVE

01:14 - 24.830 ME A QUESTIONING BY CALLING ON

01:14 - 27.400 THE JUSTICE DONE HERE. I THINK

01:14 - 27.900 E T.

01:14 - 30.720 >>I'M COUNCIL I THE FACTUAL

01:14 - 32.710 CREDITED IN THIS CASE. I BET

01:14 - 35.550 YOU RELY ON AND THE PARDON ME

01:14 - 37.710 VIA DISSENTING JUDGE IN THE

01:14 - 38.840 COMMONWEALTH COURT

01:14 - 42.930 IS THAT I'D BE APPLE WE HERE AT

01:14 - 44.480 MATT'S YEAH, THE

01:14 - 46.740 THE ACTUAL CIRCUMSTANCES

01:14 - 49.600 SURROUNDING THE ENTRANCE INTO

01:14 - 52.870 THE I R D PROGRAM ARE SAYING AS

01:14 - 54.690 THE FACTUAL CIRCUMSTANCES

01:14 - 56.110 GIVING RISE TO BE

01:14 - 59.050 CHILD ABUSE CHARGE.

01:14 - 02.240 YES, THE THERE WAS NOT THAT

01:15 - 04.000 AGREEMENT AND THEIR WAYS A

01:15 - 08.460 DISPUTE AND TO BE ON SIMILARITY

01:15 - 08.800 OF THIS

01:15 - 11.660 ACTUAL CIRCUMSTANCES. I'M IN

01:15 - 15.330 THAT WHAT IS YOUR VIEW AS TO

01:15 - 17.250 WHETHER OR NOT A HEARING I

01:15 - 18.060 WOULD BE PERMITTED.

01:15 - 19.400 >>IN

01:15 - 22.370 THAT CIRCUMSTANCE. BHA SHOULD

01:15 - 23.990 HAVE HELD A HEARING MORE OVER

01:15 - 26.110 HERE FOR WHAT PURPOSE.

01:15 - 28.900 WHETHER OR NOT THE SOFT

01:15 - 31.600 SURFACE. AND HOW WOULD THEY DO

01:15 - 31.870 THAT.

01:15 - 36.110 >>AND HOW AND HOW WOULD THEY

01:15 - 36.960 ACCOMPLISHED THAT.

01:15 - 39.870 >>THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS

01:15 - 41.390 ACTUALLY BEEN DONE GRANT.

01:15 - 43.360 >>ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET RIGHT TO

01:15 - 44.130 YOU OR.

01:15 - 45.260 >>YEARS.

01:15 - 47.460 >>AND WHAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE

01:15 - 51.920 LAW SENSES KENYA'S.

01:15 - 56.410 THE CASE ONE OF THE CASES CITED

01:15 - 57.950 IN THE ECONOMY OR ONE OF THE

01:15 - 59.580 THINGS THAT REALLY WAS A BALL.

01:15 - 00.830 IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF

01:16 - 03.370 THIS. IT'S. IF THE R

01:16 - 05.480 A CASE. AND IN THAT

01:16 - 07.830 CASE. THE CHILD ABUSE REPORT

01:16 - 08.690 RESPONDED BASED ON

01:16 - 11.470 SEXUAL ABUSE. BUT THE HURT AND

01:16 - 13.090 THE CHILD ABUSE OR IN CRIMINAL

01:16 - 14.990 CASE. ULTIMATELY LEAD TO

01:16 - 17.940 YOU CAN'T LOOK AT THOSE 2

01:16 - 20.460 THINGS AND SAY THAT ENDANGERING

01:16 - 22.010 LAW PER CHILD IN A

01:16 - 24.430 CERTAIN WAY AND SO THEREFORE

01:16 - 26.500 THERE IS A HEARING TO SEE IF

01:16 - 28.940 THE U.S. CHARGES AGAINST HIM.

01:16 - 34.000 HERE REASON REQUEST

01:16 - 34.890 A HEARING.

01:16 - 36.130 IT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO

01:16 - 37.150 JUDICIAL DETERMINATION

01:16 - 38.740 CONCERNING SERIOUS INJURY.

01:16 - 40.780 DEFEND THE INNOCENT OF THE

01:16 - 42.480 ALLEGATIONS BUT YOU ENTER ERIC

01:16 - 43.940 E WHICH IS IN

01:16 - 46.570 THE STATUE. ISSUE

01:16 - 48.140 DURING A HEARING TO EXPLAIN HER

01:16 - 49.130 VERSION OF THE INCIDENT AND

01:16 - 51.110 REASONS FOR THEIR FEET WHICH

01:16 - 53.000 GETS A LITTLE CLOSER, BUT IT'S

01:16 - 55.040 STILL NOT. THE SCENE.

01:16 - 57.520 OK THANK YOU.

01:16 - 59.170 >>THANK YOU WROTE JUSTICE

01:16 - 59.690 TARGET.

01:17 - 03.320 >>WELL COUNSEL PERCENT TO

01:17 - 05.930 6341 AGE 2.

01:17 - 08.440 AN INDIVIDUAL'S ENTITLED TO A

01:17 - 09.420 HEARING FOR AN INDICATOR

01:17 - 11.310 REPORT. THE FACTS OF THIS CASE

01:17 - 14.220 SHOWED THAT THERE WAS 2

01:17 - 15.530 INDICATED REPORTS.

01:17 - 18.730 I WASN'T UNTIL HER ACCEPTANCE

01:17 - 20.210 IN THE DAY OR THE THAT YOUR

01:17 - 23.070 OFFICE AMENDED AND MADE A FOUND

01:17 - 25.210 THAT REPORT. WHY IS SHE NOT

01:17 - 26.370 GUARANTEED A HEARING.

01:17 - 29.950 UNDER THE 90 DAY WINDOW WHEN

01:17 - 31.900 SHE APPLIED WHEN SHE WAS QUOTE

01:17 - 33.480 UNQUOTE INDICATED AS OPPOSED TO

01:17 - 33.920 FOUND.

01:17 - 36.950 >>WHEN THE REPORT

01:17 - 38.980 WAS INDICATED. SHE DIDN'T BACK

01:17 - 41.150 RACINE APPEAL RIGHTS AN APPEAL.

01:17 - 44.500 DECISION BUT BEFORE YOU COULD

01:17 - 46.610 BE HELD THE STATUS WAS HE FOUND

01:17 - 48.280 IT, THEY'RE REALLY INDICATED

01:17 - 51.460 STATUS GOES AWAY. AND THE RIGHT

01:17 - 53.560 TO APPEAL WORDED UNDER AGE 2

01:17 - 54.510 AND OUR.

01:17 - 56.860 >>WHEN YOU SAY IT GOES AWAY IN

01:17 - 58.390 USE DIRECTLY TO THE STATUTE

01:17 - 59.160 THAT SAYS THAT.

01:18 - 04.110 JUST PRACTICE. SO YOU COULD

01:18 - 06.260 AVOID PROVIDING INDICATED

01:18 - 07.740 REPORT THAT'S BEING APPEALED A

01:18 - 08.850 RIGHT TO A FAIR HEARING.

01:18 - 11.840 >>ACTIVISTS BUT IT'S

01:18 - 14.890 NOT TO AVOID THE RIGHT TO A

01:18 - 17.410 FAIR HEARING. IT'S NOT BE

01:18 - 20.670 FOUNDED STATUS. YES BECAUSE

01:18 - 22.790 THERE IS GENERALLY COMMON PLEAS

01:18 - 24.060 COURT THERE IS ANOTHER COURT

01:18 - 24.670 ACTION.

01:18 - 27.080 THAT GENERALLY CALLED A HIGHER

01:18 - 29.180 BURDEN OF PROOF. THERE ARE

01:18 - 31.600 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE WIRED THE

01:18 - 34.220 MONEY IN IT. AND AS I

01:18 - 35.440 MENTIONED OR.

01:18 - 38.680 STATUS BASED ON AIR. HE DOESN'T

01:18 - 39.430 HAVE THE

01:18 - 42.270 PERMANENT BASED ON SECTION 60

01:18 - 45.760 DEGREE ONLY 1, 8, 1, WHEN

01:18 - 49.270 HE SAYS IT FOUND. IF THE

01:18 - 50.340 PERPETRATOR CAN SHOW THE

01:18 - 52.580 DEPARTMENT THAT THE UNDERMINE

01:18 - 55.000 OR ACTION FOUND IN THE CASE AND

01:18 - 57.700 THEN HER SERVE A KID AND ON ITS

01:18 - 00.550 DEBTS. IF YOU'RE. HE WOULD THEN

01:19 - 02.660 BUT BACK INTO THE

01:19 - 04.200 INDICATED THAT AND

01:19 - 07.780 AT ALL. HE WRITES WHAT A MESS.

01:19 - 13.970 >>THANK YOU OR I GUESS IT

01:19 - 14.630 WORKED.

01:19 - 17.100 THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE COUNCIL

01:19 - 18.340 WITH RESPECT TO

01:19 - 22.810 63 0, 3, 8, 2,

01:19 - 25.320 QUOTE THE SAME FACTUAL

01:19 - 27.630 CIRCUMSTANCES UNQUOTE. MY

01:19 - 29.500 QUESTION FOR YOU IS.

01:19 - 34.930 HOW ARE WE TO MAKE THE JUMP TO

01:19 - 35.300 LEAVE.

01:19 - 39.250 VERBIAGE IN AC WIRE

01:19 - 41.360 FOR PORT OR A CRIMINAL

01:19 - 42.280 COMPLAINT.

01:19 - 46.450 DETERMINATION OF AS A MATTER OF

01:19 - 47.150 LAW.

01:19 - 49.990 WHAT THE FACTUAL CIRCUMSTANCES

01:19 - 50.270 ARE

01:19 - 52.910 THE SAME. WE CAN'T JUST SORT OF

01:19 - 54.950 ROUGH GUESSTIMATE THAT AND WE

01:19 - 57.030 WOULDN'T THE APPROPRIATE THING

01:19 - 57.760 TO DO.

01:19 - 59.930 FOR YOU TO GET A COURT ORDER

01:19 - 01.310 OVER THE AIR THE HEARING.

01:20 - 04.160 GET SOME SORT OF STIPULATION OR

01:20 - 05.710 AT LEAST SOME VERBIAGE.

01:20 - 08.750 NO RECORD FROM THE A ARE D HERE

01:20 - 11.940 INCIDENTS, SOMEBODY. SOME JUDGE

01:20 - 13.500 JUDY CATER I WOULD

01:20 - 15.470 SAY YEAH THOSE ARE THE SAME

01:20 - 16.750 FACTUAL CIRCUMSTANCES THE

01:20 - 18.880 OTHER OTHERWISE. ARE YOU JUST

01:20 - 20.100 SAW ALWAYS GOING TO BE JUST

01:20 - 22.400 SORT OF SORT OF YEAH THAT'S

01:20 - 23.740 KIND OF SORT OF THE SAME THING

01:20 - 25.400 SO THAT'S THE SAME.

01:20 - 28.750 >>I DON'T THINK I THINK YES.

01:20 - 32.520 THERE IS AN

01:20 - 33.660 ALLEGATION THAT A SEXUAL

01:20 - 36.050 SERVICES. THE QUESTION IS STILL

01:20 - 37.850 ON IT. IN

01:20 - 40.470 THIS CASE. WE ARE LOOKING AT.

01:20 - 41.470 >>THE E.

01:20 - 42.740 >>YOU'RE HEARING THE APPEALS

01:20 - 44.680 ARE ARE MISTER TRUMP, YOU KNOW.

01:20 - 47.800 >>LOOK AT THE ALLEGATIONS IN

01:20 - 49.340 THE CRIMINAL COMPLAINT AND THE

01:20 - 50.700 APP IT PROBABLE CAUSE.

01:20 - 54.070 THOSE MATCHUP WITH

01:20 - 57.350 FACT LISTED IN THE C I 40.

01:20 - 01.250 ALL OF THE AID OF THE INCIDENT

01:21 - 02.090 WHICH ARE

01:21 - 04.770 THE SAME. AND WE DON'T HAVE THE

01:21 - 07.030 PERPETRATOR AND HAS A SAY THAT

01:21 - 08.860 HAS NOT HAPPENED. I GOT IN

01:21 - 10.230 DANGER AND WELFARE OF A CHILD

01:21 - 11.250 CHARGES BUT.

01:21 - 14.510 AND THE CHILD IN A CAR NOT

01:21 - 15.110 BECAUSE

01:21 - 21.120 AND IT'S NOT THE CASE. WE.

01:21 - 21.750 >>THERE

01:21 - 22.540 SHOULD BE.

01:21 - 24.390 >>A HEARING IN FRONT OF THE

01:21 - 25.160 CHECK TO SEE IF

01:21 - 29.170 ARE SAYING AND BY THE SAME AND

01:21 - 30.460 LEAVING THE UNITED WILL.

01:21 - 32.410 YES THAT DAY.

01:21 - 36.120 >>THERE'S ALSO A

01:21 - 38.810 THE STATUTORY DEFINITION OF A

01:21 - 40.080 HERO OR A CHILD.

01:21 - 42.040 ANY TYPE OF CHILD ABUSE AND SEE

01:21 - 43.080 WHAT REALLY WAS.

01:21 - 47.330 >>ARMY JUST VERY BRIEFLY OR IS

01:21 - 49.530 IT YOUR POSITION THEN THE BIRD

01:21 - 53.110 IS ON IS THE BURDEN IS ON THE

01:21 - 54.220 ALLEGED ABUSER

01:21 - 56.440 TO SHOW THAT THE FACTUAL

01:21 - 57.820 CIRCUMSTANCES ARE NOT THE SAME.

01:21 - 01.020 >>ONCE THERE HAVE BEEN THAT

01:22 - 02.940 OTHER COURT DETERMINATION IN

01:22 - 04.640 THIS CASE ENTER INTO ENERGY.

01:22 - 07.150 YES, SOME ARE JUST TOO THE

01:22 - 12.480 ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S THE.

01:22 - 14.650 COUNTY JURY YET FOR THE

01:22 - 16.330 DEPARTMENT AND THAT IN THE

01:22 - 18.370 INITIAL OBVIOUSLY THIS ASIAN.

01:22 - 23.200 WHAT'S IN THE THE SAME.

01:22 - 25.770 WHETHER IT'S AFTER REQUEST

01:22 - 28.120 ARTERY OR AND THIS IS THE BEST

01:22 - 30.270 HERE IN THE INDICATED THAT THE

01:22 - 30.530 KEY.

01:22 - 39.320 >>I HAVE NO QUESTIONS

01:22 - 41.840 THANK YOU. YOU CAN GUESS WHERE.

01:22 - 44.540 >>THERE'S

01:22 - 45.630 LOTS LAW.

01:22 - 48.350 >>THEY SAID THAT RECOGNIZES

01:22 - 50.940 THAT PEOPLE AT AM D J LEVEL.

01:22 - 52.770 >>WE DO NEED TO BEAT THESE

01:22 - 54.450 CHARGES THE MATTER TO YOU THE

01:22 - 56.910 CHANCE TO SNEAK SAID THE SAME

01:22 - 00.400 IS TRUE FOR A R P. YOU MAY WELL

01:23 - 00.950 NOT HAVE

01:23 - 03.360 DONE IT. I'M LIKE A GUILTY PLEA

01:23 - 05.030 CALL WHILE YOU DON'T HAVE

01:23 - 07.440 CONCEDED TO GET INDIA ARE THE

01:23 - 10.120 IT'S A RE CROWD,

01:23 - 12.200 THIS POSITION. PEOPLE ARGUED

01:23 - 13.760 IT'S NO LEGAL SENSE, BUT THAT'S

01:23 - 15.370 NOT HERE BEFORE US TODAY.

01:23 - 18.480 SO IT'S BOTHERSOME TO ME

01:23 - 20.340 IS A CORE AS A MATTER OF

01:23 - 23.210 HOARDING PROCESS THAT BECAUSE

01:23 - 24.300 SOMEBODY WANTS TO

01:23 - 27.800 RD ELIMINATE THE EXPENSE AND

01:23 - 29.590 UNCERTAINTY AND GET BACK ON IN

01:23 - 31.270 THEIR LIFE. HE WANTED HOURS OF

01:23 - 33.300 COMMUNITY SERVICE SENTENCE ON

01:23 - 35.680 THE DAD EQUATES TO THAT THAT

01:23 - 37.920 FORCES THEM TO FORFEIT THE

01:23 - 39.030 RIGHT TO CONTEST.

01:23 - 42.000 THE. FOUNDED CHILD CHILD

01:23 - 43.150 SUPPORT AND

01:23 - 45.250 I APPRECIATE THE LEGISLATURE

01:23 - 46.780 SAID THAT NEXT WE'RE WORKING

01:23 - 48.540 WITH THE LEGISLATURE ALSO SAYS

01:23 - 49.820 PEOPLE POINTED OUT YOU

01:23 - 51.850 ANY ADMINISTRATIVE AGENCY LOT

01:23 - 53.400 OF THE ISSUES THAT INDICATION

01:23 - 54.070 TO GET A HEARING.

01:23 - 56.110 SO ARGUABLY WE HAVE A CAN OF A

01:23 - 57.690 CONFLICT IN STATUTE.

01:23 - 59.780 AND MY QUESTION IS GIVEN THE

01:23 - 01.170 REALITY OF A YORKIE

01:24 - 02.850 AND WE DON'T WANT TO CHILL

01:24 - 04.700 PEOPLE FROM NOT GOING TO BE

01:24 - 05.410 BECAUSE OF THIS.

01:24 - 07.420 WHY DON'T WE FIND IN FAVOR OF

01:24 - 08.910 THE ADMINISTRATIVE AGENCY LINE

01:24 - 09.750 LET YOU GIVE THEM A LITTLE

01:24 - 10.080 HERE.

01:24 - 17.020 >>I THINK IF WE

01:24 - 17.880 LOOK AT.

01:24 - 21.100 >>THE PURPOSE OF A OR B AND THE

01:24 - 26.500 UNDER OR IN THE STATE THERE

01:24 - 28.860 COULD BE SOME BALANCE. THERE

01:24 - 29.730 ARE MUCH LIKE.

01:24 - 36.310 AIR D HAS BEEN FOUND IN A

01:24 - 39.050 CERTAIN RIGHTS TRIALS IN MAY

01:24 - 40.770 THE RIGHT SECTION EACH AN.

01:24 - 42.490 THEY'RE ALSO AT

01:24 - 45.170 LEAST TEMPORARILY WAIVING THEIR

01:24 - 47.560 RIGHTS YEARS.

01:24 - 49.590 THEY ENTER THAT WHATEVER

01:24 - 51.980 STRATEGIC REASON. THEY RECEIVED

01:24 - 53.470 A RECEIPT SANCTIONS FOR

01:24 - 53.890 EVERYBODY.

01:24 - 58.380 LEE BASED ON SUCCESSFUL

01:24 - 59.900 COMPLETION. WHAT.

01:25 - 04.810 WE HAVE.

01:25 - 08.720 MISS NOT BE THAT THE

01:25 - 11.970 AIR D THAT'S LIKE ONE MIGHT YOU

01:25 - 14.880 KNOW. RATHER THAN

01:25 - 19.300 GO THROUGH. THE TIME HAS A

01:25 - 20.630 SPECIAL REASON THAT MINOR

01:25 - 23.150 MINOR. CRIMINAL CHARGES.

01:25 - 26.950 THEY WERE SEEING. I THINK EARLY

01:25 - 28.660 PERIOD OF TIME. IN THIS CASE

01:25 - 30.500 AND REPORT AND ONCE THEY

01:25 - 31.600 SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED

01:25 - 34.540 THEIR D. IT CANNOT SHOW THAT SO

01:25 - 35.630 COMPLETION THE EXPANSION

01:25 - 39.420 OF RECORD. MOVES THE SOUNDS

01:25 - 41.780 THAT INDICATE AND

01:25 - 44.760 THAT ARMY. BOTH THE STATUTORY

01:25 - 46.310 BORROWING LIMIT WOULD BE LET IN

01:25 - 47.760 THERE IS A WARM FRONT OF THE

01:25 - 50.880 YEAR AND TO BE ABLE TO HEAR.

01:25 - 52.700 BURTON WOULD BE OUR COUNTY OR

01:25 - 55.940 DEPARTMENT SHOW THAT YOU IT.

01:25 - 59.430 LET ME JUST LOVE FOLLOW IS THE

01:25 - 00.380 REMOVAL.

01:26 - 02.900 >>OF THE FOUNDED REPORT UPON

01:26 - 05.450 SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF A R D

01:26 - 06.530 MINISTER ARIEL

01:26 - 08.680 AS A DEPARTMENT OF ANY CHOICE

01:26 - 09.450 BUT TO REMOVE IT.

01:26 - 12.780 >>I THINK BASED ON THE LANGUAGE

01:26 - 14.470 OF 6.41 SEE

01:26 - 17.150 0.1. THEY DON'T HAVE MANY

01:26 - 17.590 OPTIONS

01:26 - 19.970 NOT RETURN. SO THAT SECTION

01:26 - 21.130 SAYS THAT THEY FOUND IN THE

01:26 - 21.690 REPORT.

01:26 - 25.430 IF YOU CAN JUST THE UNDERLYING

01:26 - 27.430 COURT NOMINATION. IT CAN

01:26 - 28.920 IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE AN

01:26 - 29.900 ENERGY WOULD BE FUN.

01:26 - 33.220 RECORD. IT CAN SHOW WAS OVER.

01:26 - 35.100 I DON'T SEE ANY ROOM FOR THE

01:26 - 37.210 DEPARTMENT TO THE TEAM FOUND

01:26 - 38.880 STATUS BECAUSE THAT UNDERLIES.

01:26 - 42.850 THANK YOU CHIEF, THANK YOU.

01:26 - 44.890 >>THANK YOU ARE JUST GONE.

01:26 - 47.430 THANK YOU CHIEF.

01:26 - 51.100 >>AND IT SEEMS TO IN YOUR

01:26 - 54.020 PARTICULAR CASE IS WORSE

01:26 - 55.890 SPIRIT. EAST ON.

01:26 - 59.740 IN PART. THE FACTS THAT TO

01:26 - 01.870 THEM. INDIVIDUAL

01:27 - 03.680 MOTHER HERE ACTUALLY

01:27 - 06.330 MID PRIOR TO WORK.

01:27 - 10.980 ENERGY SAVINGS. SHE'S USED THE

01:27 - 13.770 ACT FACTS THAT IN FRIES

01:27 - 15.850 TO YOUR FOUNDER OR IN

01:27 - 18.040 OTHER WORDS. SHE WOULDN'T STOP

01:27 - 19.780 ALLEGED TO HAVE LEFT HER

01:27 - 23.660 2.15 YEAR-OLD TEAM ON AMY'S

01:27 - 26.200 THEIR FRIENDS. ALL NIGHT.

01:27 - 27.600 WELL SHE WENT TO

01:27 - 31.360 A R AND THAT WAS THE BASIS FOR

01:27 - 34.350 CHART FROM THE CHARGES AND

01:27 - 36.130 THE ULTIMATE.

01:27 - 38.650 RT AND THAT'S ALSO

01:27 - 42.220 EXACTLY PRECISELY. THE BASES UP

01:27 - 44.120 OR WHAT YOUR DEPARTMENT DID IT.

01:27 - 47.260 SO IT SEEMS TO ME MILLER CASE

01:27 - 47.750 ARE.

01:27 - 50.860 PARTICULARLY

01:27 - 54.610 HOWEVER MY CONCERN AND OUR

01:27 - 57.210 CONCERN IS ALWAYS YOU WRITE

01:27 - 00.350 THESE CASES OR THE ENTIRE ON

01:28 - 00.870 WELL.

01:28 - 03.830 AND I'M JUST NOT SURE ECHOING

01:28 - 06.100 THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY SOME

01:28 - 07.870 OF MY COLLEAGUES, I'M JUST

01:28 - 09.550 NOT SURE THAT

01:28 - 12.580 THAT ANSWER LIES WHEN THE FACTS

01:28 - 15.270 ARE NOT SO NEATLY LINED UP SAY

01:28 - 17.350 YOU'RE HERE. I WONDER IF YOU

01:28 - 17.920 COMMENT.

01:28 - 21.890 >>I THINK IN CASES WHERE FACTS

01:28 - 23.310 ARE SO BEING THE GROUND UP AND

01:28 - 24.520 I HEARD ENOUGH.

01:28 - 28.960 AND THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY IN

01:28 - 31.580 FRONT OF ME. MICHIGAN TRYING TO

01:28 - 34.220 YOU KNOW. AND HAVE.

01:28 - 36.550 >>THE COUNTY AND THE

01:28 - 38.140 PERPETRATOR EITHER SHOW THE

01:28 - 40.430 FACTS ARE THE FACTS ARE THE

01:28 - 41.710 DIFFERENCE IN THIS CASE IS THAT

01:28 - 43.460 KARMA OR OR IT'S HER

01:28 - 46.380 FIERY EDUCATION OF THE ACT.

01:28 - 48.580 AND THEN IT JUST TO THE

01:28 - 50.990 HARRISON BETWEEN THE CROWN

01:28 - 52.660 COURT THAT IN FACT IT WAS

01:28 - 54.190 OPERATING UNDER AND CHURCHES

01:28 - 56.400 AND THE TOP CANDIDATES. ARE THE

01:28 - 56.810 SECRET.

01:29 - 06.000 >>AND SEE WHERE THE AIR TO MARK

01:29 - 06.830 SO FAST.

01:29 - 09.370 YOU KNOW WE'RE TO ASSUME NATION

01:29 - 10.280 I APPRECIATED.

01:29 - 13.300 >>VERY RELIGIOUS IN HERE.

01:29 - 17.450 THE LEGISLATURE INCLUDED AIR D.

01:29 - 19.390 IN THE DEFINITION OF

01:29 - 21.080 FOUNDER COURT. IF YOU LOOK AT

01:29 - 22.450 THE CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF

01:29 - 24.250 20 FOR THE FIRST WEEK OR IN

01:29 - 27.020 EXPANDED IT RE MI AND HE'S VERY

01:29 - 30.200 PACIFIC INTENTIONAL LANGUAGE IN

01:29 - 30.610 EACH OF

01:29 - 32.730 THE ORDER. THE ACTIONS AND FOR

01:29 - 34.730 REASONS YOU CAN'T ASK FOR

01:29 - 36.730 THE NATURE OF THE INTERVIEW

01:29 - 38.400 ITSELF DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO

01:29 - 40.320 GET IT BACK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT

01:29 - 40.800 THE CRIMINAL

01:29 - 42.850 PROCEDURE CODE YOU'LL SEE THAT

01:29 - 45.160 CRIMINAL PROCEDURE WIRES.

01:29 - 48.300 YOU KNOW OFF THE RECORD

01:29 - 49.700 TO DISCUSS THE BACK WHERE THE

01:29 - 51.680 JUDGE AGREES ENTRY INTO ERIC E.

01:29 - 54.410 THEREFORE A REQUIRED YOU CAN

01:29 - 57.260 ACT REGION AND A REPORT AGAINST

01:29 - 58.590 THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT IN MY

01:29 - 59.070 MIND.

01:30 - 08.500 >>CHRIS LYON ON BEHALF OF THE

01:30 - 09.200 TELLY.

01:30 - 11.220 >>I MEAN SHE'S

01:30 - 14.650 JUST IN RESPONSE TO A JUST

01:30 - 17.690 CAUSE IN

01:30 - 19.100 THE FACTS. I DID

01:30 - 20.670 THIS A PURELY HYPOTHETICAL I

01:30 - 21.790 KNEW I WOULD SAY THE FACTS

01:30 - 22.650 DON'T DON'T.

01:30 - 26.580 >>DON'T LINE UP HERE MOM DIDN'T

01:30 - 27.260 ADMIT ANY.

01:30 - 29.240 I MEAN THAT'S THE WHOLE PROBLEM

01:30 - 31.200 IS THAT IS JUST THE CLAIM SAYS

01:30 - 33.090 THERE'S JUST A CLAIM IN REPORT.

01:30 - 33.920 >>THAT.

01:30 - 35.890 >>TURNED INTO A FOUNDED REPORT

01:30 - 37.610 LATER ON THAT MOMMY, THESE

01:30 - 39.870 MISSIONS BUT. WE DON'T

01:30 - 41.310 KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT PART OF

01:30 - 42.610 THE RECORD OF THIS CASE RIGHT

01:30 - 43.840 NOW AND CERTAINLY DIDN'T COME

01:30 - 45.410 UP IN A ARE D C WHICH

01:30 - 48.070 IS A WHICH ISN'T ON BY BY RULE

01:30 - 49.950 PROCEDURES IN ON RECORD SHEET.

01:30 - 53.680 SO I JUST WOULD SAY JUST IN

01:30 - 55.640 GENERAL JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING

01:30 - 57.620 IF THERE'S ANY AMBIGUITY IN THE

01:30 - 59.230 STATUTES AND HOW THE HOW THEY

01:30 - 00.990 ARE INTERPRETED IT SHOULD WAY

01:31 - 04.930 IN FAVOR OF PELLEY BECAUSE.

01:31 - 06.600 >>THERE'S

01:31 - 07.930 A LOT AT STAKE HERE FOR PEOPLE

01:31 - 08.990 IN A ALREADY OR BE SOMETHING

01:31 - 10.340 THAT'S EQUALLY AVAILABLE TO

01:31 - 11.610 BOTH INNOCENT AND

01:31 - 13.510 GILLEY DEFENDANTS AND YOU'RE

01:31 - 14.320 GOING TO GET VERY VERY

01:31 - 16.280 DIFFICULT FOR

01:31 - 18.270 INNOCENT PEOPLE TO AVAIL

01:31 - 19.520 THEMSELVES OF THE BENEFITS OF

01:31 - 19.800 THE

01:31 - 21.780 ENERGY PROGRAM WHEN THEIR NAME

01:31 - 22.840 IS GOING TO BE ON THIS

01:31 - 24.410 REGISTRY, WHICH BASICALLY

01:31 - 25.670 MARCHING WITH A SCARLET LETTER

01:31 - 26.390 ON SHIPS.

01:31 - 30.440 THAT WOULD BE MY

01:31 - 31.890 MY MY ARGUMENT IS A MATTER OF

01:31 - 32.480 POLICY.

01:31 - 35.050 >>THANK YOU I GUESS IS DONE

01:31 - 35.430 HERE.

01:31 - 39.030 >>I CAN SO YOU HEARD ME GOING

01:31 - 40.370 BACK TO THE QUESTION THAT JUST

01:31 - 40.610 THIS

01:31 - 43.870 YEAR EARLIER WHICH IS I THINK

01:31 - 44.600 YOU RE

01:31 - 47.300 STARTED KID THAT AFTER

01:31 - 50.100 THE I R D PROGRAM TIME FRAME

01:31 - 52.830 HAS EXPIRED THAT THE FOUNDING

01:31 - 54.430 REPORT INDICATION WILL BE

01:31 - 54.870 REMOVED.

01:31 - 58.610 AS I UNDERSTAND THE STATUTE

01:31 - 59.490 THAT YOU'RE OPPOSING

01:31 - 02.530 COUNCIL REFERENCE. I THESE DOWN

01:32 - 05.420 THE REPORT I WILL BE REMOVED OR

01:32 - 07.890 ERADICATED I GUESS THE

01:32 - 11.350 DISPOSITION IS VACATING IS I

01:32 - 12.700 BELIEVE THE LANGUAGE OF THE

01:32 - 13.390 STATUTE.

01:32 - 14.570 >>ON.

01:32 - 16.660 >>WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN ANY

01:32 - 17.590 EXPUNGEMENT

01:32 - 21.580 AND SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS I

01:32 - 22.930 DO YOU SEE IT AS

01:32 - 25.750 A CERTAINTY. I THEN AT THE END

01:32 - 27.680 OF THE YORKIE HERE IS THAT

01:32 - 30.180 THERE WILL BE A REVOCATION ARE

01:32 - 31.980 FOUND IN COURT INDICATION.

01:32 - 34.480 WELL, I MEAN THE WORD OUT

01:32 - 36.310 IT WORKED. THEY ATE IT IS

01:32 - 36.860 TROUBLING.

01:32 - 38.700 VERY DIFFICULT

01:32 - 41.200 8 REQUIRES A COURT ORDER DOES

01:32 - 43.620 IT NOT RIGHT AND THAT TO ME

01:32 - 45.570 HERE JUST READING AND I ADMIT

01:32 - 46.980 THAT I DID RESEARCH THAT

01:32 - 48.410 TEACHER ISSUES LIKE THIS.

01:32 - 49.900 JULIE SEEKING TO TRY TO GET AN

01:32 - 52.720 EVIDENTIARY HEARING. BUT.

01:32 - 56.000 LET ME JUST LOGICALLY IT

01:32 - 57.530 DOESN'T MATCH UP THAT I DON'T

01:32 - 58.560 THINK THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S

01:32 - 00.350 ARE YOU GOING TO GET THIS FROM

01:33 - 00.720 YOU.

01:33 - 07.440 YOU DOCUMENTS SHOWING THAT THE

01:33 - 09.600 RESPONSE. OK THANK YOU.

01:33 - 12.520 >>THANK YOU JUSTICE AND R D.

01:33 - 16.400 >>MY SUMMERS OR SIMILAR DID.

01:33 - 18.680 >>JUSTICE TANI USE BEACH.

01:33 - 20.850 POSITION OR THE

01:33 - 23.150 IN FOUNDED REPORT YOU NEED TO

01:33 - 26.640 BE VACATED OR CURSED BY HARD HE

01:33 - 28.500 IS EXPUNGED

01:33 - 31.490 SO THE QUESTION I HAVE IS BE

01:33 - 33.240 DISTINGUISHED BACK PARTICULAR

01:33 - 33.570 TERM

01:33 - 35.980 OF ART AS PART OWING WITHIN

01:33 - 38.650 THIS SUCH BAD AN A OR B

01:33 - 41.400 RESTFUL COMPLETION CAN STILL BE

01:33 - 43.740 CHALLENGED. AND THE REPORT

01:33 - 46.350 REMAIN. KEEP READING

01:33 - 48.390 THE BASED READING THE STATUTE.

01:33 - 51.220 AS YOU EXPLAIN THE RICH THAT'S

01:33 - 51.900 MY CONCERN.

01:33 - 55.750 >>YES, TONIGHT

01:33 - 57.840 NOT DIRECTLY I'M JUST BY

01:33 - 59.080 POINTING OUT THAT THERE'S STILL

01:33 - 01.140 A LOT. A LOT OF STATE FOR THE

01:34 - 02.830 LET ME GET BECAUSE THEY MAY BE

01:34 - 04.920 THEY MAY BE ON PROBATION DOING

01:34 - 06.860 PRAYER BEFORE A LONG TIME.

01:34 - 08.810 >>AND MAY BE SUFFERING. I THINK

01:34 - 10.720 WHEN SAYS OF THAT BEING ON

01:34 - 11.570 THE REGISTRY.

01:34 - 14.320 AGAIN WHEN I THINK WE THEY MAY

01:34 - 16.060 HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY INNOCENT

01:34 - 18.020 OF WHATEVER CLAIMS CAME DOWN, I

01:34 - 18.560 SO.

01:34 - 20.710 I STILL FEEL THERE'S ENOUGH

01:34 - 22.250 THERE TO WARRANT A LITTLE

01:34 - 23.860 HEARING ON THIS MATTER GIVE

01:34 - 25.250 SOMEBODY A CHANCE TO BE HEARD

01:34 - 27.290 ON ON THE REASONS THEY ENTERED

01:34 - 28.360 INTO THE PROGRAM.

01:34 - 32.600 HOW WOULD YOU HOW DO YOU.

01:34 - 36.550 >>HOW DO YOU FOLLOW THAT LOGIC

01:34 - 37.740 WITH THE PLAIN READING OF THE

01:34 - 39.890 STATUTE THEN A ARE D IT WAS

01:34 - 41.330 FOUND THAT REPORT DOWN THE

01:34 - 43.070 REPORT EQUALS NO HERE.

01:34 - 46.920 >>I HATE TO

01:34 - 48.340 SAY I WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU I

01:34 - 49.600 DON'T THINK IT'S AS EQUALS

01:34 - 51.090 FOUNDED REPORT, I THINK THERE'S

01:34 - 52.560 ENOUGH. I MEAN IT

01:34 - 53.900 I'M NOT GOING TO PULL THE

01:34 - 55.100 LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE IT ALL IN

01:34 - 57.380 FRONT OF US HERE UP. I.

01:35 - 03.380 THE THERE'S A THERE'S NO

01:35 - 04.870 THERE'S NO THERE ARE NO FACTS

01:35 - 06.490 AIR DOWN THE AIR DE BRUYNE WAS

01:35 - 08.680 ONLY INTO SECRET. I LOOK FOR

01:35 - 11.020 SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S BEING

01:35 - 12.570 AIRED OUT THERE WE WERE PUTTING

01:35 - 14.090 SOMEBODY ON THIS REGISTRY.

01:35 - 16.930 >>WELL FAIR ENOUGH, BUT

01:35 - 17.950 THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A

01:35 - 19.360 CHALLENGE TO THE STATUTE FOR

01:35 - 21.480 WHICH YOU DID NOT MAKE. OKAY

01:35 - 22.460 OKAY.

01:35 - 25.400 >>I STILL THINK THAT THERE'S

01:35 - 26.870 BEEN NO AIRING OUT YOUR BEAT

01:35 - 28.170 THE REASONS OF GOING INTO THE

01:35 - 30.350 PROGRAM YOU HAVE SOME LANGUAGE

01:35 - 31.880 WORK WITH AIR TO THE EXTENT

01:35 - 32.540 THAT THERE'S ANY

01:35 - 34.590 AND THE UN HE AND WHAT IS THE

01:35 - 35.960 COURT TO FALL AGAIN.

01:35 - 37.500 IF THERE'S AN AMBIGUITY THE

01:35 - 38.680 COURT HAS TO DECIDE WHAT HE

01:35 - 40.090 SAID TO ME.

01:35 - 40.750 >>AND I.

01:35 - 43.390 >>I'M UTTERLY IN FULL RAISING A

01:35 - 44.940 POLICY WOULD HERE ORAL

01:35 - 46.630 ARGUMENT THAT EACH SHOULD

01:35 - 48.000 CONSIDER DWAYNE FAVORITE

01:35 - 49.270 ITALIAN WHAT'S AT STAKE.

01:35 - 51.030 THE 4 COUNTIES AND IN LIFE

01:35 - 52.660 CIRCUMSTANCES. THANK YOU.

01:35 - 55.240 >>THANK YOU. MY MAIN JUSTICE

01:35 - 58.160 WORK. YOU JUST THIS MORNING

01:35 - 00.660 COUNCIL WITH RESPECT TO

01:36 - 03.570 LANGUAGE IN SECTION NOW

01:36 - 06.100 SUBSECTION 8, 2 REGARDING SAME

01:36 - 09.150 FACTUAL CIRCUMSTANCES. WHAT IN

01:36 - 10.090 OUR VIEW.

01:36 - 14.390 IS THE MINIMUM LEVEL A PROCESS.

01:36 - 16.230 THAT MUST

01:36 - 18.150 BE AFFORDED TO THE ALLEGED

01:36 - 21.130 ABUSER. BEFORE.

01:36 - 24.860 STANDARD IS SATISFIED THERE.

01:36 - 29.130 WELL TO COMPARE IT TO A GUILTY

01:36 - 30.590 PLEA COLLOQUY WHERE.

01:36 - 32.370 >>YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE DIA A

01:36 - 33.760 RECITING THE FACTS.

01:36 - 35.710 IT WAS LIKE THE FAX WEEKLY TO

01:36 - 36.000 WORK AND

01:36 - 39.800 THEN THE SENATE IS THE SENATE

01:36 - 40.620 DID YOU UH

01:36 - 43.740 IF YOU IS THAT TRUE THEY SAY

01:36 - 46.590 YES AND. THAT WOULD BE

01:36 - 47.110 SUFFICIENT.

01:36 - 51.120 I AGAIN DO ARE THESE ARE NON

01:36 - 53.000 RECORDS TO SEE. SO YOU'RE NOT

01:36 - 55.670 GOING TO HAVE THAT. YOU'RE NOT

01:36 - 56.450 GOING TO BE ABLE TO PULL

01:36 - 59.480 A COLLOQUY AND IN HERE THAT

01:36 - 00.510 CONVERSATION, THOSE

01:37 - 02.120 CONVERSATIONS ARE HELD OFF OFF

01:37 - 03.530 THE RECORD. IT'S SOMETHING YOU

01:37 - 05.450 CARE YOU COULDN'T HEAR I JUST

01:37 - 07.710 INTERRUPT YOU FOR A AND AND I'M

01:37 - 09.890 THINKING ABOUT THE CHRONOLOGY.

01:37 - 12.180 >>IT WOULDN'T

01:37 - 13.150 BE FEASIBLE

01:37 - 17.510 BILL THAT RECORD BY BRINGING

01:37 - 19.440 YOUR OWN CORP OR SO TO SPEAK BY

01:37 - 20.740 FOR EXAMPLE.

01:37 - 23.530 >>IF THEY KNEW.

01:37 - 25.110 >>ABOUT THE A ARE D BRINGING IN

01:37 - 26.580 COURT PORTER IN GETTING SOME

01:37 - 28.130 KIND OF RECORD IT'S NOT GOING

01:37 - 29.220 TO HAPPEN RIGHT BECAUSE

01:37 - 30.890 SEE WHY IT'S NOT GOING TO BE

01:37 - 33.250 PREPARED IN THESE CASES TO

01:37 - 34.890 DEVELOP THAT. BACK AT THE TIME

01:37 - 36.170 OF THE AIR D HERE RIGHT.

01:37 - 40.470 PROBABLY BE AFRAID US THERE TO

01:37 - 41.620 I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COURT.

01:37 - 43.440 THE COMMON PLEAS FOR WOULD BE

01:37 - 45.450 TO PARTICULARLY PLEASED BECAUSE

01:37 - 47.020 IT'S IN MY VIEW IS SOMEWHAT

01:37 - 48.170 STRUCK IN MAY.

01:37 - 50.150 MAYBE IT LASTED MORE DIFFICULT

01:37 - 51.300 HAD THESE PROCEEDINGS GO

01:37 - 51.620 THROUGH.

01:37 - 52.410 >>BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE AN

01:37 - 54.360 ASSEMBLY LINE GOING ON IN AND

01:37 - 55.500 THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO

01:37 - 57.320 HAVE A COLLOQUY FOR SEE WHY

01:38 - 05.470 >>I QUESTIONED.

01:38 - 09.650 I JUST DESPAIR. THANK YOU

01:38 - 10.910 KEITH UP JUST

01:38 - 12.650 REALLY BRIEFLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT

01:38 - 14.620 THE MEAD OF THE LEGAL ARGUMENT.

01:38 - 17.410 BUT I MEAN IF YOU'RE LOOKING A

01:38 - 18.180 GIFT HORSE IN

01:38 - 20.560 THE MOUTH. YOU'RE YOU WHEN

01:38 - 22.120 BEFORE US YOU GET A HEARING.

01:38 - 25.370 YOUR CLIENT DID BAR FROM

01:38 - 27.810 MIDNIGHT UNTIL 06:00AM THAT

01:38 - 30.610 CHILD ABUSE IN IN YOUR FOUNDED

01:38 - 32.720 INSTEAD SHE GOES A ARE D IS A

01:38 - 33.810 MATTER OF CONVENIENCE

01:38 - 35.420 SHE WAITS UNTIL SHE DOES IS

01:38 - 36.890 COMMUNITY SERVICE AND THE LIKE

01:38 - 39.540 AND END UP IN GETS VACATED.

01:38 - 41.110 IS

01:38 - 43.060 THAT THE IT'S THE SMART THING

01:38 - 44.760 TO DO TO NOT GO YOU'RE OUT AND

01:38 - 46.280 IT JUST GOING RD GET RID OF

01:38 - 46.980 THIS CONVENTION.

01:38 - 50.910 IT'S TOUGH QUESTIONS ARE OKAY.

01:38 - 53.140 JUST THE SPOTTED BE.

01:38 - 56.010 IT IS A POINT WHEN

01:38 - 58.250 THE LEGISLATURE. BUT THE

01:38 - 59.810 PROBLEM HERE SEEMS TO ME TO BE

01:38 - 00.640 DUE PROCESS.

01:39 - 03.100 AND IT'S I THINK THAT'S WHAT

01:39 - 04.220 YOU'RE ARGUING AND I THINK

01:39 - 05.450 THAT'S WHAT BY DID ALTHOUGH I

01:39 - 07.010 DON'T KNOW THAT YOU RAISE THAT

01:39 - 08.150 IN CERTAINLY WAVE

01:39 - 09.750 CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES IN CHINO

01:39 - 11.960 WHAT WOULD DIE THE COMMONWEALTH

01:39 - 13.050 COURT HELD IS UNDER THE

01:39 - 14.720 ADMINISTRATIVE AGENCY LAW THIS

01:39 - 16.130 EQUALS IN THE JUNE OCCASION.

01:39 - 17.940 AND IN

01:39 - 21.420 THE ADJUDICATION IT CAN OCCUR

01:39 - 22.730 WITHOUT WITHOUT A HEARING.

01:39 - 25.190 THE OTHER SECTION A LAW THAT

01:39 - 27.370 WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT SAYS

01:39 - 29.860 IF YOU GO A ARE D YOU DON'T GET

01:39 - 30.280 A HEARING.

01:39 - 31.980 WHAT WE DO WITH WHAT I

01:39 - 33.580 PERCEIVED WHAT I WOULD DO THIS

01:39 - 35.260 CASE IS A CONFLICT INTO

01:39 - 36.640 SECTIONS OF PENNSYLVANIA LAW.

01:39 - 40.740 WELL AS I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE.

01:39 - 43.880 ONE OF THE EYE.

01:39 - 45.690 I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN AND IN

01:39 - 47.550 STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION TO BRING

01:39 - 49.900 >>THE.

01:39 - 51.750 >>YOU KNOW CONSTITUTION AND ASA

01:39 - 53.200 TO SHUN A LAW THAT I WOULD SAY

01:39 - 54.720 JUST AS A MATTER OF POLICY.

01:39 - 57.780 THAT I WOULD ASK THE COURT TO

01:39 - 59.720 CONSIDER A COUNTY THAT HAVE A

01:39 - 00.680 STRONGER INTEREST.

01:40 - 05.090 BECAUSE OF THE BRANDISHING

01:40 - 07.310 A FAT OF BEING PLACED ON THIS

01:40 - 08.680 REGISTRY AND HAPPENED WHEN IT'S

01:40 - 10.450 YOUR EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES

01:40 - 11.790 AND JUST HOW YOU'RE VIEWED BY

01:40 - 13.220 PEOPLE IN SOCIETY IN GENERAL

01:40 - 14.450 THERE'S A LOT AT STAKE FOR ME.

01:40 - 17.050 >>I I APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU

01:40 - 18.330 VERY MUCH, THANKS CHIEF.

01:40 - 21.700 THANK YOU JUSTICE OF. NEW

01:40 - 23.800 QUESTIONS STREET. THANK

01:40 - 25.340 YOU MR.

01:40 - 27.920 >>I'VE MET YOU HAVE A A.

01:40 - 30.580 THAT SEARCH OF SUMMATION.

01:40 - 33.440 >>NO SIR I BEAT THE COMMENTS US

01:40 - 33.660 WANT.

01:40 - 37.070 AND I I APPRECIATE THAT THE

01:40 - 39.790 FIRST WEEK OF EARLY ON. NOT

01:40 - 41.860 ONLY ARE YOU BREACH SO

01:40 - 43.940 WE THOUGHT. I WILL CONCLUDE

01:40 - 45.760 THIS ARGUMENT AND A.

01:40 - 51.910 >>PEOPLE FROM HAGERSTOWN WELL

01:40 - 52.740 SOUTH OF HERE ALONG THE

01:40 - 53.800 MOUNTAIN RANGE WE'RE COMING

01:40 - 55.510 INTO GETTYSBURG AND SAY THE

01:40 - 57.170 COMPUTER FOR MOVING NORTH AND

01:40 - 58.370 IF THEY CHOSE TO COME OVER

01:40 - 59.780 THE MOUNTAINS THAT THEIR

01:40 - 01.310 HARVESTS WERE IN DANGER,

01:41 - 02.780 GETTYSBURG BATTLE WALKS A

01:41 - 04.640 GUIDED TOURS OF THE HISTORIC

01:41 - 06.780 BATTLEFIELD LED BY THE EXPERTS

01:41 - 07.450 WHO CAN TELL YOU

01:41 - 09.570 WHAT HAPPENED EACH BOTTLE WALK,

01:41 - 11.350 LET'S YOU WALK IN THE SHOES OF

01:41 - 13.480 THE MEN WHO FOUGHT AND DIED

01:41 - 13.810 HERE.

01:41 - 15.680 >>GETTYSBURG BATTLE LOCKS,

01:41 - 18.310 JULY FIRST SECOND AND 3RD ONLY

01:41 - 19.550 ON PC M.

01:41 - 22.390 >>THESE ARE GETTING IS IN UNION

01:41 - 24.050 COUNTY NEWS ANCHORS ARE SAYS

01:41 - 25.110 IT'S BEEN A DEPARTMENT OF

01:41 - 27.980 CORRECTIONS BEHALF COHEN IS

01:41 - 29.430 MISSED EVERSON RAND

01:41 - 31.650 ARE YOU IN BEHALF OF LEE IS

01:41 - 32.840 MICHAEL J JOINTS.

01:41 - 37.610 >>AH THE GOOD AFTERNOON, NOT.

01:41 - 40.270 THEY WERE REPORTER SENT A

01:41 - 41.710 REQUEST TO THE PENNSYLVANIA

01:41 - 42.980 DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS

01:41 - 44.450 PURSUANT TO THE RIGHT TO KNOW

01:41 - 44.840 LAW.

01:41 - 47.450 SHAKING INFORMATION REGARDING

01:41 - 48.440 THE HEALTH INMATE.

01:41 - 50.790 THE DEPARTMENT DENIED

01:41 - 53.060 THE REQUEST. THE OPPOSITE OF

01:41 - 54.500 OPEN RECORDS REVERSE THAT

01:41 - 55.070 DECISION.

01:41 - 57.960 THEREAFTER THE DEPARTMENT ONLY

01:41 - 59.210 PARTIALLY COMPLIED WITH THE

01:41 - 59.830 REQUEST.

01:42 - 02.900 AND THE NEWSPAPER FOUND FORSMAN

01:42 - 03.310 ACTION.

01:42 - 05.650 THE COMMONWEALTH COURT

01:42 - 07.000 ADJOURNED THAT THE DEPARTMENT

01:42 - 07.900 HAD ACTED IN

01:42 - 10.510 BAD FAITH AND IMPOSE OR

01:42 - 13.040 $100,000 IN TOURNEY HISTORY.

01:42 - 14.850 IN ADDITION TO OTHER PARENTS.

01:42 - 17.750 APPEAL WAS ALLOWED TO REVIEW

01:42 - 19.330 THE BEST SAFETY TERMINATION.

01:42 - 22.180 AS WELL AS THE PROPRIETY OF THE

01:42 - 24.340 AWARD THAT TOO.

01:42 - 31.870 YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND

01:42 - 34.880 PROCEED THAT ARGUMENT. WE HAVE

01:42 - 36.420 THE TALENT WE APPRECIATE IT

01:42 - 37.080 RAN.

01:42 - 39.400 >>THANK YOU YOUR HONOR AND YOUR

01:42 - 40.530 HONOR I WOULD LIKE TO JUST

01:42 - 42.310 EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION FOR

01:42 - 44.450 THE COURTS ENABLING THIS VIDEO

01:42 - 45.240 HEARING I'M SURE

01:42 - 46.940 THAT WAS DIFFICULT IN YOUR

01:42 - 49.200 STAFF'S BEEN VERY SIGNING

01:42 - 50.140 HELPING US GET UP TO

01:42 - 52.180 SPEED HERE. I THINK YOU'RE ITS

01:42 - 53.980 POSITION IN THIS CASE IS

01:42 - 56.670 IMPORTANT HAVE THESE IMPOSED

01:42 - 58.200 UNDER THE RIGHT TO KNOW ACT.

01:42 - 00.480 YOU NEED 2 THINGS A FINDING OF

01:43 - 02.090 BAD FAITH AND STATUTORY

01:43 - 03.940 AUTHORITY AND I'D LIKE TO

01:43 - 05.870 ADDRESS FIRST TO QUESTION A BAD

01:43 - 06.430 FACE.

01:43 - 09.200 IT IS CRITICAL TO THE

01:43 - 10.580 DEPARTMENT'S POSITION THAT THE

01:43 - 11.720 COURT UNDERSTAND

01:43 - 13.750 THAT WHEN THE DEPARTMENT

01:43 - 16.210 RECEIVED THE REQUEST IN 2014.

01:43 - 19.090 IT READ THEIR REQUEST NARROWLY

01:43 - 20.840 THAT'S NOT IN DISPUTE.

01:43 - 24.460 IT'S NOT UNTIL 2016 2 YEARS

01:43 - 26.280 LATER IN THE ENFORCEMENT

01:43 - 28.840 PROCEEDING LAND. JUDGE SIMPSON

01:43 - 30.050 RIGHT TO HIS OPINION

01:43 - 32.580 THAT WE LEARNED THAT ARE

01:43 - 35.160 READING WAS IMPROPERLY NARROW.

01:43 - 36.920 AND ALTHOUGH THE JUDGE FOUND

01:43 - 38.310 THE READING TO BE NARROW.

01:43 - 39.680 HE ALSO MADE TO WHETHER

01:43 - 42.400 IMPORTANT FINDINGS. ONE WHY'S

01:43 - 45.180 THAT THERE WAS A BASIS FOR THE

01:43 - 47.410 NARROW READING AND THE SECOND

01:43 - 49.500 WAS THAT THE NARROW READING WAS

01:43 - 51.310 NOT IN BAD SHAPE.

01:43 - 53.660 CRITICAL TO

01:43 - 55.970 UNDERSTANDING WHY WE CONTENDERS

01:43 - 57.430 NO THAN FAITH IN THIS CASE.

01:43 - 59.620 IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN LOOKING AT

01:43 - 01.220 THE CASE TO BE LOOKING

01:44 - 03.400 AT IT ALWAYS THE HARTMAN LOOKED

01:44 - 04.470 AT THE REQUEST IN

01:44 - 07.350 2014. NOT THE WAY IT WAS

01:44 - 09.160 CONSTRUED BY THE COURT 2 YEARS

01:44 - 10.750 LATER IN 2016.

01:44 - 12.380 AND ALTHOUGH IT IS TRUE THAT

01:44 - 14.820 HURTS SIMPSON SAID IN HIS EYE.

01:44 - 16.160 THEY HAD FAITH OPINION

01:44 - 17.830 THAT THE DEPARTMENT SHOULD HAVE

01:44 - 19.140 BEEN ON NOTICE SINCE READING

01:44 - 21.360 WAS TOO NARROW BASED ON E L OUR

01:44 - 23.550 DECISION I WOULD RESPECTFULLY

01:44 - 25.210 INVITE THE COURT TO READ THAT

01:44 - 26.750 DECISION AND THERE IS NO

01:44 - 29.270 DISCUSSION THAT DECISION OF

01:44 - 30.500 ITS SCOPE.

01:44 - 33.120 THE REQUEST IS FOCUSED ENTIRELY

01:44 - 34.200 ON WHETHER THE DEPARTMENT

01:44 - 35.470 MINUTES BURDEN TO SHOW THERE IS

01:44 - 37.190 AN INVESTIGATION. IT'S

01:44 - 39.190 CONTRACTED BY LANGUAGE

01:44 - 40.160 SEEKING

01:44 - 42.150 INFORMATION CONCERNING

01:44 - 45.120 ILLNESSES CONTRACTED BY INMATES

01:44 - 47.170 AT SCI FAYETTE WAS

01:44 - 49.130 READ TO MEAN EXACTLY THAT IN

01:44 - 51.310 LATE IN ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IN

01:44 - 54.140 REQUEST WAS READ AS BEING

01:44 - 55.590 EXPLANATORY RATHER THAN

01:44 - 56.480 EXPANSION

01:44 - 59.350 EXPANSIVE WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND

01:44 - 00.660 THAT THAT'S HOW THE DEPARTMENT

01:45 - 02.240 LOOKED AT THE CASE INITIALLY

01:45 - 04.190 YOU NEED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED.

01:45 - 05.730 THE FIRST THING HAPPENED IS THE

01:45 - 07.290 REQUESTS CAME AND IT WENT TO

01:45 - 09.480 THE RIGHT TO KNOW OFFICER WHO

01:45 - 11.310 DID WHAT THE STATUTE SAID HE

01:45 - 12.680 DIRECTED IT TO SOMEONE IN THE

01:45 - 14.810 AGENCY TO ANSWER THAT PERSON

01:45 - 17.030 WAS MISS MONTANA. IT'S MONTANA

01:45 - 19.400 CAME BACK AND STATED THERE ARE

01:45 - 21.050 2 SETS OF RECORDS THAT WOULD

01:45 - 22.290 BE RESPONSIVE. THE

01:45 - 23.710 INVESTIGATIVE RECORDS

01:45 - 25.830 CONCERNING THE ABOLITIONIST LAW

01:45 - 28.540 CENTER REPORT AND IN THE

01:45 - 30.000 INDIVIDUAL INMATE MEDICAL

01:45 - 32.190 RECORDS. BOTH OF THOSE WE

01:45 - 33.290 BELIEVED WERE SUBJECT TO

01:45 - 34.830 EXCEPTION AND SO

01:45 - 37.050 WE DENIED THE REQUEST CITING

01:45 - 38.810 KNOWS AMONG OTHER EXCEPTIONS.

01:45 - 42.090 >>THANK YOU MISTER AND JUSTICE

01:45 - 42.960 DAUGHERTY'S YOU HAVE ANY

01:45 - 43.630 QUESTIONS.

01:45 - 47.390 SORRY ABOUT THAT GUYS.

01:45 - 51.050 NO NOT AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU

01:45 - 52.060 JUSTICE WORK.

01:45 - 53.850 >>THANK YOU TO THOSE THIS I

01:45 - 54.890 HAVE NOTHING AT THIS TIME.

01:45 - 57.110 >>THIS IS MONEY.

01:45 - 59.220 I HAVE NO QUESTIONS

01:45 - 02.560 THANK YOU. THIS IS WHERE I WAS

01:46 - 04.510 SORRY TO BREAK THE STRING.

01:46 - 08.440 COUNCIL YOUR ARGUMENT DOESN'T

01:46 - 09.410 SEEM TO ME TO

01:46 - 10.470 BE RESPONSIVE.

01:46 - 12.560 >>TO EITHER THE ISSUES THAT WE

01:46 - 13.500 GRANTED

01:46 - 16.870 AND YOU AS A APPELLATE FRAME

01:46 - 18.590 THOSE ISSUES WE REALLY ADOPTED

01:46 - 21.110 THEM SO EXPLAIN TO ME IF

01:46 - 22.840 I UNDERSTAND YOUR FIRST

01:46 - 24.240 ARGUMENT AND TELL ME IF I'M

01:46 - 26.860 WRONG. THE ARGUMENT IS THAT IF

01:46 - 28.680 YOUR RIGHT TO KNOW RESPONDER

01:46 - 30.230 AGENCIES RIGHT NOW RESPONDERS.

01:46 - 32.840 DELEGATED THE TASK THAT YOU

01:46 - 34.010 INDICATED TO OTHERS

01:46 - 36.250 AND THE OTHERS MADE A MISTAKE.

01:46 - 37.760 THE AGENCY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE.

01:46 - 42.040 >>THAT IS CORRECT THAT IF THEY

01:46 - 43.210 NEED A MISTAKE.

01:46 - 45.070 SO IF MISS MONTAG MADE A

01:46 - 46.820 MISTAKE IN THE WAY SHE READ THE

01:46 - 48.940 REQUEST THAT DOESN'T MEAN

01:46 - 50.560 WE ACTED IN A WAY THAT WAS

01:46 - 51.980 UNREASONABLE OR IN

01:46 - 54.400 BAD FAITH. THE EVIDENCE ISN'T

01:46 - 56.700 THE AGENCY RESPONSIBLE RIPPED

01:46 - 57.500 HEARTLESS OF.

01:46 - 59.900 >>HOW YOU INTERNALLY ORGANIZE

01:46 - 01.580 YOUR YOUR YOUR OPPORTUNITIES

01:47 - 01.830 ARE.

01:47 - 03.880 >>YES, THE AGENCY IS

01:47 - 05.190 RESPONSIBLE IN THE SENSE THAT

01:47 - 05.700 THAT'S WHAT THE

01:47 - 08.400 STATUTE SAYS IT OBVIOUSLY HUMAN

01:47 - 09.780 BEING HAS TO RESPOND TO THE

01:47 - 10.670 REQUEST.

01:47 - 13.760 THE AGENCY ITSELF CAN'T 4 MENS

01:47 - 15.880 REA I CAN'T AND YOU KNOW

01:47 - 17.940 HAVE A SHRED DOCUMENTS OR DO

01:47 - 18.980 ANY OTHER SUCH THING.

01:47 - 20.590 SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT

01:47 - 21.980 THE RECORD WE HAVE IN THE 2

01:47 - 23.510 INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ACTUALLY

01:47 - 25.170 AGENCY EMPLOYEES WOULD BE

01:47 - 27.220 RESPONSIBLE. MISTER MA WHERE

01:47 - 29.470 HIS MONTANA HOME. LOOK FOR

01:47 - 30.630 DOCUMENTS OR HE

01:47 - 32.080 I DON'T KNOW SHE LOOKED BUT SHE

01:47 - 33.500 CAME BACK AND SAID THIS IS WHAT

01:47 - 34.160 THEY'RE WISE.

01:47 - 36.200 AND MISTER OTHMAN WHO THE COURT

01:47 - 37.210 FOUND CREDIBLE

01:47 - 38.930 AND KIM SAID IT WAS ON THE

01:47 - 40.840 PHONE WITH DOCTOR IN DOCTOR,

01:47 - 43.200 THE WEALTH AND WE WERE ASKING

01:47 - 45.130 QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT DOCUMENTS

01:47 - 45.940 ARE THERE SOME HE WAS

01:47 - 48.280 MAKING INQUIRIES AND BASED ON

01:47 - 50.010 THAT I THINK THERE'S NO BAD

01:47 - 52.130 STATE. ONCE YOU GET

01:47 - 56.790 TO THE THAT'S OK I MIGHT TIMES

01:47 - 58.060 VERY VERY LIMITED. SO

01:47 - 58.430 I JUST.

01:47 - 00.600 >>TYPICALLY AGO NEAR A POOL OF

01:48 - 01.460 PEOPLE THEY WERE NOT

01:48 - 02.730 CONSTRAINED A COUPLE MINUTES.

01:48 - 04.910 I THINK YOU'RE MAKING A

01:48 - 06.550 DIFFERENT ARGUMENT THAN US THIS

01:48 - 08.680 LOOK AT YOU'RE ARGUING THAT YOU

01:48 - 10.760 AS AN AGENCY. WE'RE IN GOOD

01:48 - 12.880 FAITH BECAUSE YOU MAY KNOW MIX

01:48 - 15.020 PAY AND A MISTAKE I UNDERSTAND

01:48 - 16.200 THAT ARGUMENT YOU WERE TRYING

01:48 - 18.160 TO PROTECT THE EXPOSURE TO

01:48 - 19.830 TOXIC COAL WASTE REPORT.

01:48 - 21.550 I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE

01:48 - 22.480 HERE. BUT

01:48 - 24.650 I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THAT IT

01:48 - 25.950 SEEMS TO BE THE ISSUE THAT YOU

01:48 - 27.340 RAISE THE SPARTAN RACE

01:48 - 29.890 2 ISSUES. BUT THE THE THE FIRST

01:48 - 31.540 ISSUE YOU RAISED WAS THAT.

01:48 - 33.420 YET SOMEHOW

01:48 - 34.870 THE AGENCY'S NOT RISK NOT

01:48 - 35.880 RESPONSIBLE IF THERE'S

01:48 - 37.410 CONFUSION AMONG THE RIGHT TO

01:48 - 39.340 KNOW RESPONDER AND PEOPLE THAT

01:48 - 40.780 HE DELEGATES IN THIS.

01:48 - 44.840 I RESPONDED IF NOT WE'LL JUST

01:48 - 45.140 DECIDE

01:48 - 47.550 THE CASE. NOW I THINK THAT THIS

01:48 - 49.000 STATUTE IS CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT

01:48 - 50.470 THE DUTY OF THE A ROW TO DO THE

01:48 - 51.120 SEARCH.

01:48 - 53.750 >>AND IN THIS CASE HE DIDN'T

01:48 - 55.060 AND THE FACT THAT HE DIDN'T I

01:48 - 56.000 DON'T THINK IT'S BAD THING.

01:48 - 59.100 OK THANK YOU. NICE WHEN JUSTICE

01:48 - 59.530 TIME.

01:49 - 02.160 >>I HAVE NO QUESTIONS CHIEF

01:49 - 02.770 JUSTICE.

01:49 - 04.840 >>THANK YOU JUSTICE TANI YEARS.

01:49 - 05.710 >>I

01:49 - 08.840 USE COUNCIL ON BIG GET BACK TO

01:49 - 11.040 LIKE JUST AS FEARS QUESTION ON

01:49 - 13.750 WHEN SHE IS ESSENTIALLY

01:49 - 14.910 FOCUS STEIN.

01:49 - 18.690 >>ROLE OF THE OPEN

01:49 - 20.200 RECORDS OFFICER.

01:49 - 23.730 >>WHO BY STATUTE IS DESIGNATED

01:49 - 25.050 AS THE

01:49 - 29.390 CENTER POINT ON RESPONSIVENESS

01:49 - 31.680 SIDE AND REACTION. I TO

01:49 - 34.200 REQUESTS FOR DOCUMENTS. I IN

01:49 - 37.420 MY VIEW. HE PERSONIFIES THE

01:49 - 39.350 AGENCY'S OBLIGATION YOU

01:49 - 40.750 HAVE DEFINITIONS OF WHAT THE

01:49 - 43.350 AGENCY IN DO AN EFFORT BETSY

01:49 - 45.140 COME STAND BY. HE

01:49 - 47.400 SAID THE. JOBS AT

01:49 - 51.480 THE SLOW THEN TO THE OPEN

01:49 - 52.410 RECORDS OFFICE

01:49 - 55.260 OR SO. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING

01:49 - 56.870 THAT YOU'RE TAKING THE POSITION

01:49 - 58.620 THAT HE REALLY ONLY SERVES IN

01:49 - 59.850 MANY CEREAL.

01:50 - 01.810 HE GETS A REQUEST HE

01:50 - 04.010 GIVES IT TO SOMEBODY ON ANY

01:50 - 05.420 CHECKS TO SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING

01:50 - 06.660 AND THEN SOMEBODY JUST TELLS

01:50 - 08.400 HIM WHAT TO SAY AND THEN EACH

01:50 - 10.400 PASSING THAT ALONG IS THAT IS.

01:50 - 11.590 >>YES,

01:50 - 12.220 AND AND.

01:50 - 15.490 >>I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND I

01:50 - 18.040 HOW ONE COULD COME TO THAT

01:50 - 21.240 CONCLUSION. WHEN YOU LOOK AT

01:50 - 21.830 THE SENSE.

01:50 - 24.300 >>ALL OF THE OPEN RECORDS

01:50 - 27.770 OFFICER ME. HIS ULTIMATE JOHN

01:50 - 30.640 IS TOO ISSUE INTERIM AND

01:50 - 32.320 FINAL RESPONSES.

01:50 - 36.210 I MEAN THAT SUGGESTS SOMETHING

01:50 - 37.890 MORGAN PARITY

01:50 - 40.380 INFORMATION THAT HE

01:50 - 42.870 ACCEPTS BLINDLY FROM

01:50 - 44.500 INDIVIDUALS TAKE THIS CASE FOR

01:50 - 45.930 EXAMPLE ON TIME.

01:50 - 48.040 YOU SAID YOU DON'T KNOW WHETHER

01:50 - 49.130 SHE HE LOOKED

01:50 - 51.030 AT DOCUMENTS HIS RECORD

01:50 - 52.860 REFLECTS MY UNDERSTANDING IS

01:50 - 53.790 THAT HE DID NOT.

01:50 - 56.350 SHE ESSENTIALLY LOOK AT THE RAC

01:50 - 57.660 REQUEST INSTEAD

01:50 - 00.250 I THIS TOUCHES UPON INFORMATION

01:51 - 02.490 I BET I SEND IT TO ITS ACTIONS

01:51 - 03.200 AND THAT WAS THE END

01:51 - 05.550 OF IT ISN'T IT THE OFFICE OF

01:51 - 07.560 OPEN RECORDS ON.

01:51 - 10.220 HER SON ISN'T THAT ISN'T IT

01:51 - 12.810 THAT OFFICERS JOT TO MAKE AN

01:51 - 15.660 INQUIRY INTO WHAT WAS DONE TO

01:51 - 17.220 COME TO THAT CONCLUSION IS IN

01:51 - 19.800 HERE SHE KNEW HER SON WHO

01:51 - 20.350 WITHIN THE

01:51 - 23.620 AGENCY IS GIVEN THAT SPOT

01:51 - 25.680 BECAUSE THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH

01:51 - 27.500 THE LAW WHEN IT IS A PUBLIC

01:51 - 29.660 RECORD. WHAT ARE THE EXCEPTIONS

01:51 - 31.690 ISN'T IT. THE EXPERTISE OF THAT

01:51 - 33.510 OFFICER THAT POINT SAID OFFICER

01:51 - 34.830 A NEW POSITION IN DOING

01:51 - 36.070 SOMETHING 100 IN

01:51 - 38.920 KAREN E INFORMATION THAT PASSED

01:51 - 39.610 ALONG TO HIM.

01:51 - 43.060 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT

01:51 - 44.880 YOUR HONOR AND THE REASON WHY I

01:51 - 45.680 SAY THAT.

01:51 - 47.880 >>IS FIRST I WANT TO SAY THAT I

01:51 - 49.510 DO THINK SOMEONE HAS A DUTY TO

01:51 - 50.880 SEE THAT IT'S IT'S BEING

01:51 - 52.030 RESPONDED TO AND I WOULD

01:51 - 53.590 SUGGEST THAT THAT DUTY WOULD BE

01:51 - 55.300 ON MISS MONTAG SUPERVISORS,

01:51 - 55.900 NOT THE.

01:51 - 58.110 >>AT THE SAME OPEN RECORDS.

01:51 - 59.140 I RESPONDED THAT WE

01:51 - 01.520 HAVE HERE BUT SECOND DEPENDING

01:52 - 02.930 ON THE KINDS OF DOCUMENTS YOU

01:52 - 04.980 HAVE IT'S NOT EVEN NECESSARILY

01:52 - 06.070 POSSIBLE THAT

01:52 - 08.650 RECORDS OFFICER WOULD KNOW OR

01:52 - 09.900 BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE

01:52 - 10.780 DOCUMENTS SOME OF THESE

01:52 - 11.690 DOCUMENTS ARE FAIRLY

01:52 - 12.320 COMPLICATED

01:52 - 14.290 MEDICAL DOCUMENTS TO THE

01:52 - 15.390 AVERAGE PERSON WOULD

01:52 - 16.860 NECESSARILY KNOW IF THEY WERE

01:52 - 18.490 REALLY RESPONSE AND WE'RE NOT

01:52 - 20.430 LET ALONE BE TASKED WITH

01:52 - 23.540 LOOKING FOR THEM. ANALYZING KIM

01:52 - 24.630 RAINEY COUNCIL

01:52 - 26.380 I DIDN'T SAY THAT HE HAD AN

01:52 - 28.200 OBLIGATION TO LOOK FOR

01:52 - 30.200 DOCUMENTS OR NECESSARILY.

01:52 - 32.910 >>OR NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE

01:52 - 33.290 DOT.

01:52 - 36.040 BUT GIVEN HIS DESIGNATED

01:52 - 37.220 POSITION WITHIN THE

01:52 - 39.940 STATUTORY FRAMEWORK DOES HE OR

01:52 - 41.440 SHE NOT HAVE MORE

01:52 - 43.230 RESPONSIBILITY THAN JUST

01:52 - 46.790 PARENTING WITHOUT ANY INQUIRY

01:52 - 48.380 INFORMATION THAT PASSED ALONG

01:52 - 49.070 TO HIM OR HER.

01:52 - 52.240 >>NO I DON'T THINK

01:52 - 54.510 SO I THINK HE CAN RELY ON THE

01:52 - 56.590 STATEMENTS OF ANOTHER EMPLOYEE

01:52 - 58.170 OF THE AGENCY WHO'S MORE OF AN

01:52 - 59.940 EXPERT IN THAT AREA

01:52 - 03.550 OF DOCUMENTATION TO SAY THESE

01:53 - 03.650 ARE

01:53 - 06.820 THE DOCUMENTS. IF THAT'S NOT

01:53 - 08.860 RIGHT THAT PERSON IS THE ONE

01:53 - 10.530 THAT SHOULD BE ON OXFORD WITH

01:53 - 11.460 US REPRESENTING.

01:53 - 12.350 >>MS.

01:53 - 15.330 >>BUT YEAH, IT WOULD BE AT THE

01:53 - 17.130 END OF THE DAY THAT PERSON IF

01:53 - 18.840 THAT YOU THINK IS RESPONSIBLE

01:53 - 20.990 PERSON MACY AGENCY ON THE HUNT

01:53 - 21.670 FOR BACK PAY.

01:53 - 27.420 PRETTY I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU

01:53 - 29.320 ABOUT THAT BUT I DON'T BELIEVE

01:53 - 31.620 THAT THE NSA PEACE THEIR RECORD

01:53 - 33.490 SUPPORTS THAT MISS MONTAG ACTED

01:53 - 34.860 IN BY THE ANTE.

01:53 - 37.250 >>AND I CAN GET THIS RECORD

01:53 - 39.910 SITES ARE 1256 1257.

01:53 - 43.000 AND 1263 1264 WHERE THERE'S

01:53 - 44.170 TESTIMONY AS TO WHAT

01:53 - 45.370 INFORMATION SHE CAN PAY.

01:53 - 53.250 >>YOU WOULD LIKE

01:53 - 56.950 I SAY A FEW WORDS IN SUMMARY

01:53 - 58.870 AROUND YOUR ARGUMENT I THINK

01:53 - 01.460 THE IT

01:54 - 04.550 ENCANA NOT TO RESPOND YES, THIS

01:54 - 05.300 IS QUESTIONS.

01:54 - 07.660 >>YOUR HONOR I THINK THE

01:54 - 09.870 POINT WE'D LIKE TO IN ADDITION

01:54 - 11.350 TO THE LACK OF BAD FAITH IS

01:54 - 12.920 THERE REALLY ISN'T STATUTORY IS

01:54 - 13.900 ALREADY HERE.

01:54 - 15.990 I'M FIRST OF ALL WE DO BELIEVE

01:54 - 17.370 THAT THE ERA WAS NOT THE ONE

01:54 - 18.080 WHO SHOULD BE

01:54 - 19.430 INDUCTING THE SEARCH ARE

01:54 - 21.650 ANALYZING THE DOCUMENTS AND AND

01:54 - 23.320 AGAIN BECAUSE THE AREA OF

01:54 - 25.720 EXPERTISE OF THE NIRO IS NOT IN

01:54 - 28.070 EVERY SUBSTANTIVE SORT OF

01:54 - 29.950 REQUEST THAT'S BEING MADE AND

01:54 - 31.510 SECOND. THE

01:54 - 33.150 RIGHT TO KNOW LAW DOES NOT

01:54 - 35.220 PROVIDE FOR SANCTIONS EXCEPT

01:54 - 36.790 INTO CIRCUMSTANCES, NEITHER

01:54 - 38.750 WHICH WE HAVE HERE. THE FIRST

01:54 - 40.200 IS IF THE OFFICE OF OPEN

01:54 - 42.510 RECORDS ARE A DECISION IS

01:54 - 43.940 REVERSED BY THE COURT WHICH IT

01:54 - 45.290 WASN'T BECAUSE THE REQUESTER

01:54 - 46.590 PREVAILED IN THE DEPARTMENT AND

01:54 - 48.270 APPEAL. AND THE SECOND IS IF

01:54 - 50.080 THERE'S A TEAM DENIAL THEIR SON

01:54 - 52.060 WAS AN DENIAL, I MEAN THE COURT

01:54 - 53.960 THEN RECORDS OFFICE SAID

01:54 - 55.540 GIVE STUFF AND THE DEPARTMENT

01:54 - 57.790 GAVE SOME STUFF TINY WITHIN THE

01:54 - 58.980 PERIOD OF TIME SO

01:54 - 00.630 THERE'S NOT EVEN A FLORIDIAN

01:55 - 01.770 THINK UNDER THE RIGHT TO KNOW

01:55 - 04.370 THE LAW. YOU THAT IN MIND I

01:55 - 05.500 WOULD I WOULD AGAIN THANK THE

01:55 - 07.190 COURT. NATS THAT'S ALL.

01:55 - 10.660 >>AND WE THANK YOU. MR. JOYCE.

01:55 - 13.010 THANK YOU

01:55 - 13.960 CHIEF JUSTICE.

01:55 - 15.390 GOOD AFTERNOON AND MAY PLEASE

01:55 - 16.700 THE COURT MY NAME IS MICHAEL

01:55 - 18.660 JOYCE EWING OR STING IN LEE

01:55 - 19.370 ARE. AND

01:55 - 21.380 I REPRESENT ELLIE UNIONTOWN

01:55 - 22.670 NEWSPAPERS AND ONE OF ITS

01:55 - 24.140 REPORTERS CHRISTINE HAND.

01:55 - 25.860 >>THIS APPEAL PUT THAT ISSUE

01:55 - 27.350 ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT HOMER

01:55 - 28.990 TO OUR DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM IT'S

01:55 - 30.120 THE OPENNESS OF GOVERNMENT.

01:55 - 31.920 >>A PRESUMPTION OF OPENNESS IS

01:55 - 33.500 CONTAINED, BUT THEN RIGHT NO

01:55 - 35.400 LIFE NOW. AND WE'RE

01:55 - 36.760 SPECIFICALLY DEALING WITH VERY

01:55 - 38.210 IMPORTANT PARTS OF THE VITAL

01:55 - 39.950 THAT THE TORY RAIN WORKING AT

01:55 - 41.160 THE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION.

01:55 - 43.050 AND THE POTENTIAL FOR SANCTIONS

01:55 - 44.980 FOR BAD FAITH AND A FAILURE TO

01:55 - 45.560 COMPLY WITH

01:55 - 48.110 THE LAW. WITHOUT APPLICATION OF

01:55 - 49.860 THE SANCTIONS PROVISION TO THIS

01:55 - 51.770 CASE AND REALLY THE AVERAGE AGE

01:55 - 51.960 OF A

01:55 - 53.800 SIMILAR POSTURE. THE RIGHT TO

01:55 - 55.550 KNOW ALL THE GOOD FIGHT AND THE

01:55 - 56.740 PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO OPEN

01:55 - 58.740 GOVERNMENT INJURED. FOREVER,

01:55 - 00.470 AND THEY DO YOU SEE WANTS TO

01:56 - 02.270 LIMIT THE SANCTIONS PROVISIONS

01:56 - 03.170 TO NARROW

01:56 - 05.300 PROCEDURAL OFFICERS. GOOD AT

01:56 - 06.970 READING CREATE INTERNAL IN

01:56 - 08.490 CONSISTENCIES IN THE LANGUAGE

01:56 - 10.260 OF THE STATUTE AND ULTIMATELY

01:56 - 11.680 RESULTS IN AN ABSURD

01:56 - 14.030 OUTCOME, THE ONLY LOGICAL

01:56 - 16.260 READING OF THE LAW AND IT IS 3

01:56 - 17.860 AND A PURPOSE THAT THE SANCTION

01:56 - 18.420 PROVISION

01:56 - 20.950 APPLIES HERE. THE COMMONWEALTH

01:56 - 22.850 COURT JUDGE SIMPLY IMPROPERLY

01:56 - 24.610 AWARDED SANCTIONS BECAUSE THE D

01:56 - 26.290 O C ACTED IN BAD FAITH IN A

01:56 - 27.920 NUMBER OF RESPECTS IN THE FIRST

01:56 - 29.120 INSTANCE OF THAT WAS FROM THE

01:56 - 31.090 VERY BEGINNING. DO YOU SEE

01:56 - 32.730 FAILED TO MAKE ANY

01:56 - 34.360 EFFORT SEARCH LET ALONE A GOOD

01:56 - 35.880 FAITH SEARCH AS REQUIRED BY THE

01:56 - 37.530 RIGHT TO KNOW LAW. THE RESPONSE

01:56 - 39.500 OF RECORD. IT WASN'T UNTIL THE

01:56 - 41.180 NEWSPAPERS ENFORCEMENT ACTION

01:56 - 42.860 AND THE NEWSPAPER UNDERTOOK

01:56 - 44.770 DISCOVERY THAT ANY CHURCH EVEN

01:56 - 45.690 BEGAN TO OCCUR.

01:56 - 48.060 THIS INITIAL FAILING CREATED A

01:56 - 49.640 RIPPLE EFFECT OF BAD FAITH

01:56 - 50.100 THROUGHOUT THE

01:56 - 52.640 ENTIRE PROCESS. FOR EXAMPLE, IT

01:56 - 54.580 MEANT THAT THE D O C LITIGATED

01:56 - 57.450 DEFENSE IS OR BEYOND WITHOUT

01:56 - 58.740 REALLY KNOWING THE BASIS FOR

01:56 - 00.590 THEM. IT ALSO LED TO THE LOSS

01:57 - 02.020 OF RESPONSE OF INFORMATION

01:57 - 03.700 BECAUSE THE OC FAILED TO LOOK

01:57 - 05.480 AT LET ALONE PRESERVE THE

01:57 - 06.480 RESPONSE OF DATABASE.

01:57 - 07.950 IT CREATED THE NEED FOR

01:57 - 10.030 SIGNIFICANT LITIGATION JUST TO

01:57 - 11.650 FORCE BASIC RIGHT, NO LAW

01:57 - 13.820 DUTY, EVEN IN DECEMBER OF

01:57 - 15.890 2016 WHEN THE CWAM COMMONWEALTH

01:57 - 17.510 COURT REMINDED THAT YOU SEE

01:57 - 19.250 SPECIFICALLY WITH DOCUMENTS

01:57 - 21.410 RESPONSIVE. THE D O C STILL

01:57 - 22.480 FAILED TO PRODUCE.

01:57 - 24.670 5 YEARS OF LITIGATION LAW

01:57 - 26.240 ENFORCEMENT ACTION SHOULD NOT

01:57 - 28.820 BE NECESSARY. BALLON AGENCY TO

01:57 - 30.380 LOOK FOR REVIEW

01:57 - 32.120 AND ULTIMATELY PRODUCED PUBLIC

01:57 - 33.940 RECORDS PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE

01:57 - 35.670 DEALING WITH SUCH AN IMPORTANT

01:57 - 36.720 TOPIC IS THE HEALTH AND

01:57 - 38.000 WELL-BEING OF CITIZENS OF THE

01:57 - 38.610 COMMONWEALTH.

01:57 - 40.880 IN THE END THE COMMONWEALTH

01:57 - 41.890 COURT OPINION SHOULD BE

01:57 - 43.530 AFFIRMED AND I LOOK FORWARD ANY

01:57 - 44.840 QUESTION BEFORE MY OUT.

01:57 - 47.340 >>LET US ENJOY SAID JUSTICE

01:57 - 50.250 DIARY. NO QUESTIONS.

01:57 - 55.860 THANKS TO OUR THANKS TO YOU

01:57 - 57.210 JUST AS NO QUESTIONS HERE.

01:57 - 59.110 THANK YOU JUSTICE MONDAY.

01:58 - 05.250 >>DID YOU ADDRESS IF YOU

01:58 - 08.580 EXCUSE ME. IF YOU ARE GOING

01:58 - 12.220 TRY TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS

01:58 - 14.420 TO WHAT THE ROLE OF

01:58 - 17.300 THE OWN OPEN RECORDS OFFICER

01:58 - 19.620 WAS IN THIS CASE. WE'RE WITH

01:58 - 20.960 YOU. LOOK.

01:58 - 25.090 >>I THINK THE

01:58 - 27.220 ROLE THAT THE OPEN RECORDS

01:58 - 28.990 OFFICER NIGHT AND I THINK JUST

01:58 - 30.390 AS DONNA YOU TOUCHED ON THIS.

01:58 - 31.790 >>VERY WELL IF THAT'S THE

01:58 - 34.200 CENTRAL PERSON WHO'S ORGANIZING

01:58 - 35.670 THE ENTIRE RESPONSE TO A RIGHT

01:58 - 36.670 TO KNOW LAW REQUEST

01:58 - 39.060 AND SECOND, I KNOW ONE OF THE

01:58 - 39.830 RIGHT TO KNOW LAW

01:58 - 41.700 CLEARLY STATES THAT UPON

01:58 - 43.160 RECEIPT OF A WRITTEN REQUEST,

01:58 - 44.330 THEM. THE INDIVIDUAL WHO

01:58 - 46.030 RECEIVED THE REQUEST OF THE

01:58 - 47.220 OPEN RECORDS OFFICER,

01:58 - 49.230 CERTAIN THINGS MUST OCCUR AND

01:58 - 50.420 THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD FAITH

01:58 - 51.870 REVIEW SEARCH AND ALL THOSE

01:58 - 53.980 OTHER OFF THE PATIENT. AND I

01:58 - 56.080 THINK THAT'S THE BASIC DUTIES

01:58 - 57.480 OF THE OPEN RIGHTS RECORDS

01:58 - 59.420 OFFICER. WELL.

01:58 - 01.990 >>I GUESS MY POINT WAS KIND OF

01:59 - 03.480 DOVETAILING ON TO SOME OF THE

01:59 - 05.760 DISCUSSION BY JUSTICE DONAHUE

01:59 - 08.320 AND I JUST KNOW IN SECTION

01:59 - 11.640 5 '02. WHERE TALKS ABOUT THE

01:59 - 13.320 FUNCTIONS OF THE OPEN RECORDS

01:59 - 16.880 OFFICER I DON'T SEE THE

01:59 - 17.780 EXPANSIVE

01:59 - 20.110 ROLE THAT IS DESCRIBED BY THE

01:59 - 21.690 COMMONWEALTH COURT THAT'S WITH

01:59 - 24.040 THE FUNCTIONS OF THAT

01:59 - 27.040 THE KILLER HER SON. VIS-A-VIS

01:59 - 27.790 THE STATUE.

01:59 - 30.990 >>AND JUST THE MONEY I THINK I

01:59 - 33.260 HAD A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT REVIEW

01:59 - 34.320 OF THE COMMONWEALTH COURT'S

01:59 - 36.420 OPINION THEM AND THERE'S A LOT

01:59 - 37.470 OF PAGE AND A HALF OF OUR

01:59 - 39.040 REPORT LAYS OUT BULLET POINTS

01:59 - 41.560 OF EACH TIME. JUDGE SIMPSON

01:59 - 43.360 CLEARLY PIN. THE SEARCH

01:59 - 44.380 REQUIREMENT IN SOME OF THE

01:59 - 46.050 OTHER KEY REQUIREMENT ON

01:59 - 47.520 THE AGENCY AS A WHOLE AND I

01:59 - 48.140 THINK THAT'S THE

01:59 - 50.360 KEY IS. JUDGE SIMPSON NOTED

01:59 - 51.730 THAT THE AGENCY AS A WHOLE

01:59 - 52.960 BUILDING KNOWS OBLIGATION.

01:59 - 54.970 IT'S ALSO AN INTERESTING POINT

01:59 - 56.860 THAT THE IN DO YOU SEE

01:59 - 59.390 ZONE PROCEDURES. I SEEM TO

01:59 - 01.470 ASSIGN THE VERY DUTIES THAT

02:00 - 02.910 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SEARCH

02:00 - 04.530 THE REVIEW OF DOCUMENTS THINGS

02:00 - 06.080 LIKE THAT THOSE DUTIES REPLACE

02:00 - 07.920 ON THE OPEN RECORDS OFFICER IN

02:00 - 09.900 THE DIOCESE. PROCEDURE.

02:00 - 13.030 >>I JUST HAVE ONE LAST FALL.

02:00 - 15.730 >>AND DO YOU

02:00 - 17.970 BELIEVE THAT UNDER THE LETTER

02:00 - 20.620 OF THE STATUTE ITSELF THAT THE

02:00 - 21.200 OPEN

02:00 - 22.580 RECORDS OFFICER.

02:00 - 24.830 >>HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO

02:00 - 26.820 LOOK PAGE BY PAGE THROUGH EVERY

02:00 - 27.510 DOCUMENT

02:00 - 29.790 THAT IDENTIFIED OTHER AGENCY

02:00 - 31.610 BUREAU'S HAS BEEN RESPONSIVE OR

02:00 - 33.710 NON RESPONSIVE. THE REQUEST.

02:00 - 37.130 >>NO I DON'T JUST AS I THINK

02:00 - 38.700 THAT'S AN AGENCY DUTY AND IT

02:00 - 40.500 CAN BE A COLLABORATIVE DUTY,

02:00 - 42.470 BUT ULTIMATELY SOMEBODY ASKED.

02:00 - 45.790 >>THANK YOU

02:00 - 48.320 JUSTICE BREYER AND I'D LIKE TO

02:00 - 50.390 FOCUS ON THE SECOND ISSUE.

02:00 - 57.370 SAYS AS I'M SURE YOU WELL KNOW.

02:00 - 59.970 IF A COURT REVERSES THE FINAL

02:00 - 02.530 DETERMINATION OF THE APPEALS

02:01 - 03.410 OFFICER MAY

02:01 - 05.350 WARD COUNCIL. AN APPEALS

02:01 - 07.610 OFFICERS FIND IS AN EMPLOYEE

02:01 - 10.230 THE O R AND DOES THAT MAKE ANY

02:01 - 11.210 SENSE TO YOU AT ALL.

02:01 - 14.530 CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME.

02:01 - 19.890 I DO.

02:01 - 21.470 >>THANK YOU JUST DESPAIR AND I

02:01 - 22.660 DON'T THINK THAT LANGUAGE

02:01 - 23.940 ULTIMATELY MAKES SENSE

02:01 - 26.580 WITHIN THE GREATER CONFINES OF

02:01 - 27.250 THE STATUTE.

02:01 - 28.630 IF YOU START WITH THE TITLE

02:01 - 30.350 WOULD CLEARLY SAYS REVERSAL OF

02:01 - 30.440 AN

02:01 - 32.310 AGENCY DETERMINATION. AND I

02:01 - 33.980 THINK THAT SETS THE BASIS FOR

02:01 - 35.510 REALLY WHAT THE CONDUCT.

02:01 - 36.750 WE'RE LOOKING AT YOUR PEERS,

02:01 - 38.900 REVERSAL OF AN AGENCY AND

02:01 - 40.820 IF YOU GO THROUGH THE SECTION

02:01 - 42.200 SECTION OF SUBSECTIONS ONE AND

02:01 - 44.470 2. AGAIN CLEARLY PUT THE FOCUS

02:01 - 46.470 ON THE CONDUCT OF THE AGENCY

02:01 - 47.990 THAT SHOULD BE THE TRIGGER IN

02:01 - 50.180 EFFECT FOR SANCTIONS. NOT SOME

02:01 - 51.920 NARROW PROCEED YOUR WHICH.

02:01 - 54.520 FRANKLY RESULT IN COMPLETE

02:01 - 56.180 ABSURDITY IF IF THE THE

02:01 - 57.450 PREDICATE WAS.

02:01 - 59.940 >>A REVERSAL OF ARE.

02:02 - 02.270 >>THAT'S A DISINCENTIVE FOR

02:02 - 04.050 REQUESTERS TO PREVAIL AT THE O

02:02 - 05.980 R AND FURTHER IF YOU THINK

02:02 - 07.850 ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF CASES WOULD

02:02 - 11.040 OFTEN RESULT IN IN A DECISION

02:02 - 12.420 THEY WILL KNOW WHERE THE BEARS

02:02 - 13.660 ARE OFTEN THE WORST FAITH.

02:02 - 15.210 I'M SO I THINK THE SYSTEM

02:02 - 16.690 STARTS TO BREAK DOWN THAT

02:02 - 18.410 NARROW PROCEDURES REQUIRED.

02:02 - 21.260 >>THAT IS WHAT THE

02:02 - 23.550 LEGISLATURE SAID. IT PUTS US IN

02:02 - 25.140 A DIFFERENT COMPOSITION OUR JOB

02:02 - 26.840 IS TO INTERPRET LEGISLATIVE

02:02 - 29.100 SAYS. GENERALLY NOT TO

02:02 - 31.050 REWRITE IT. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT

02:02 - 32.820 THAT FOR YOU TO PREVAIL.

02:02 - 34.910 I MUST SAY SHE SHOULD PREVAIL.

02:02 - 35.900 WE HAVE TO

02:02 - 37.770 REWRITE THAT THAT INTRODUCTORY

02:02 - 39.270 PARAGRAPH NOT SOMEONE OR

02:02 - 39.990 SOMETHING.

02:02 - 42.740 >>I THINK

02:02 - 44.200 ULTIMATELY JUST AND FAIR THAT

02:02 - 46.120 THE COURT HAS BEEN TOLD IT CAN

02:02 - 47.410 STIR A STATUE WHEN THERE'S THAT

02:02 - 48.760 TYPE OF INTERNAL CONFLICT.

02:02 - 50.740 >>AND THAT'S THAT'S ESPECIALLY

02:02 - 52.010 IMPORTANT HERE BECAUSE THIS IS

02:02 - 53.500 THIS IS THE REAL TURN UNDER THE

02:02 - 54.810 RIGHT TO KNOW LAW THAT THIS IS

02:02 - 56.450 THE KEY TO THIS IS THAT AMOR

02:02 - 58.080 IT'S NECESSARY TO ENFORCE THE

02:02 - 59.950 LAW AND THE LEGISLATOR, WHAT

02:02 - 01.530 WAS CLEAR AT LEAST IN ITS

02:03 - 02.880 HISTORY MAYBE NOT AS CLEAR AS

02:03 - 04.390 WE'D LIKE IN THE LANGUAGE THAT

02:03 - 06.120 THIS NEW VERSION OF THE LAW WAS

02:03 - 08.000 SUPPOSED TO EXPAND SANCTIONS.

02:03 - 09.400 IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO RESULT IN

02:03 - 11.700 A MORE NARROW OR NONEXISTENT

02:03 - 13.520 SERIES OF EVENTS THAT COULD

02:03 - 15.170 SUPPORT SANCTIONS THAT YEAH.

02:03 - 17.230 >>ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

02:03 - 19.380 THANK YOU. THANK

02:03 - 22.390 I JUST DESCRIBED.

02:03 - 25.280 I HAVE NO QUESTIONS TOO.

02:03 - 27.830 THANK YOU JUSTICE. I'M HERE.

02:03 - 30.810 NO I'M GOOD CHIEF THANK YOU.

02:03 - 34.390 THANK YOU OR NOT. THANK YOU.

02:03 - 37.140 MR. JOYCE SAID. I

02:03 - 39.780 THINK YOU A REALLY A OPEN YOUR

02:03 - 41.660 ARGUMENT RESPONDING TO THAT

02:03 - 44.500 OR QUESTIONS. I WOULD YOU LIKE

02:03 - 46.820 A A ROMER CHAIR OF THE NATION.

02:03 - 50.130 >>THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE.

02:03 - 53.050 IN THE END THE USE THE IGNORED

02:03 - 54.570 IT'S MADE MOST BASIC DUTIES

02:03 - 55.850 UNDER THE RIGHT TO KNOW LAW.

02:03 - 57.800 IM REFUSED TO MAKE AN INITIAL

02:03 - 58.930 INDISPENSABLE SEARCH FOR

02:03 - 00.370 DOCUMENTS AND THE FACT THAT

02:04 - 01.620 IT'S NO SEARCH AT ALL.

02:04 - 03.950 THIS WAS THE FIRST IN A SERIES

02:04 - 04.040 OF

02:04 - 06.210 BAD AIR. ALL DESIGNED TO BLOCK

02:04 - 07.760 ACCESS TO PUBLIC RECORDS

02:04 - 09.160 REGARDING A REALLY IMPORTANT

02:04 - 10.810 ISSUE THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING

02:04 - 11.670 OF CITIZENS OF THE

02:04 - 13.460 COMMONWEALTH. WHEN IT LOST AT

02:04 - 15.470 THE O R THAT OF APPEALING

02:04 - 17.500 IT DISAGREED OR OTHERWISE BEEN

02:04 - 19.910 FLYING JUST REFUSED TO COMPLY

02:04 - 21.120 AND INSTEAD PRODUCE THE

02:04 - 23.360 DOCUMENTS THAT IT WANTED NOT

02:04 - 24.250 THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE

02:04 - 24.920 RESPONSIVE.

02:04 - 27.080 THE NEWSPAPER WAS FORCED TO

02:04 - 28.820 LITIGATE ITS ENFORCEMENT ACTION

02:04 - 29.560 AN HOUR OVER

02:04 - 32.300 5 YEARS JUST TO SECURE A SEARCH

02:04 - 33.270 IN PRODUCTION THAT SHOULD HAVE

02:04 - 34.190 HAPPENED FROM THE VERY

02:04 - 35.960 BEGINNING. THIS IS AND HOW THE

02:04 - 37.420 RIGHT TO KNOW LAW SHOULD WORK.

02:04 - 40.210 AND ULTIMATELY IN THE NORMAL

02:04 - 42.490 COURSE I AM MOST REQUESTERS

02:04 - 43.010 WOULD NOT HAVE

02:04 - 44.860 THE PATIENTS OR THE WHEREWITHAL

02:04 - 46.310 OR THE FINANCES TO FIGHT THIS

02:04 - 48.230 BATTLE. LUCKILY FOR THE PUBLIC

02:04 - 49.540 IN PARTICULAR THOSE IN FAYETTE

02:04 - 51.470 COUNTY HAROLD STANDARD DID.

02:04 - 53.320 IN THE END THE D O C HAD

02:04 - 54.900 MULTIPLE CHANCES TO COMPLY WITH

02:04 - 56.320 THE RIGHT TO KNOW LAW WHEN IT

02:04 - 56.890 REFUSED TO

02:04 - 59.230 DO SO JUNCTIONS AND OPINION

02:04 - 00.820 SHOULD FROM BECAUSE THEY WERE

02:05 - 02.750 WHOLLY APPROPRIATE AND BECAUSE

02:05 - 04.570 THEY REPRESENT BUT NOTHING CAN

02:05 - 05.510 STEP FORWARD AND OPEN

02:05 - 07.250 GOVERNMENT HAS THE NEWSPAPER

02:05 - 09.030 AND IT'S A MEATY THE OFFICE OF

02:05 - 09.970 OPEN RECORDS IN THE

02:05 - 11.930 PENNSYLVANIA ASSOCIATION

02:05 - 14.280 ALL AGREE THE FUTURE AND FOR

02:05 - 15.530 STABILITY OF THE RIGHT TO KNOW

02:05 - 16.540 A LOT IS AT STAKE.

02:05 - 17.560 THANK YOU.

02:05 - 19.650 >>THANK YOU. DEAR JUDGE, THANKS

02:05 - 20.810 TO BOTH COUNCIL.

02:05 - 23.750 AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR HEARING

02:05 - 24.460 THIS CASE.

02:05 - 28.980 RE CONVENIENT WHEN YOU'RE IN

02:05 - 30.640 THE AIR ARE GIVEN IN THE AREA.

02:05 - 35.060 >>AWARD-WINNING HISTORIAN BRADY

02:05 - 36.260 CRANKS OR TAKES YOU ON A

02:05 - 37.930 JOURNEY THROUGH 300 YEARS OF

02:05 - 39.880 CONFLICT IN BATTLEFIELD

02:05 - 41.520 PENNSYLVANIA, A GUIDE TO THE

02:05 - 42.990 KEYSTONE STATE'S MOST SACRED

02:05 - 45.050 GROUND. THE BOOK BASED OFF OF

02:05 - 46.670 PC ENDS ORIGINAL PROGRAM

02:05 - 48.280 BATTLEFIELD, PENNSYLVANIA

02:05 - 50.460 EXPLORES 29 OF THE STATE'S MOST

02:05 - 52.020 SIGNIFICANT BATTLEGROUNDS

02:05 - 53.590 DISCOVER THE HISTORY IN OUR

02:05 - 55.890 BACKYARD ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY

02:05 - 57.110 BY CALLING THE NUMBER ON YOUR

02:05 - 57.760 SCREEN.

02:06 - 05.860 >>IS IN THE MATTER OF READ MORE

02:06 - 07.440 VERSUS SURGE OF THE PARTNERS

02:06 - 10.640 ARE YOU ON BEHALF IS GREGORY

02:06 - 12.430 JACKSON ARE YOU DOING ON BEHALF

02:06 - 15.090 OF HE IS IT'S JUST IN CASE

02:06 - 15.500 HOUSE.

02:06 - 17.550 I

02:06 - 18.810 GET AFTERNOON.

02:06 - 21.800 >>AND OR RECORD ON ENERGY TO

02:06 - 23.420 ARSENAL AND LANDED ON NEWTON

02:06 - 25.950 COUNTY. THEY WERE SOLD ONLY A

02:06 - 27.980 ACTUALLY ALL. THEY STOPPED

02:06 - 30.630 READING THE PROPERTY. UNDER THE

02:06 - 31.870 MUNICIPAL TRASH

02:06 - 34.100 MAN'S LIFE. WHICH PROVIDES

02:06 - 35.760 OPPOSE SHARE REDEMPTION PERIOD

02:06 - 36.810 FOR IT ACTUALLY FEELS.

02:06 - 39.070 BICKERING FIRST AND SECOND

02:06 - 40.170 CLASS COUNTY.

02:06 - 43.310 THE TRIAL COURT DETERMINED THAT

02:06 - 45.510 INSTEAD. THE REAL ESTATE

02:06 - 47.780 ACTION, SHE'LL LAW GOVERN.

02:06 - 49.860 YOU CAN LEAVE

02:06 - 52.620 THAT STATUE AGE OR REDUCTIONS

02:06 - 54.730 ARE MAKING TRIES TO OTHER

02:06 - 55.890 CLASHING OF COUNTY.

02:06 - 58.960 WELL THE CONTENDING THAT THE

02:06 - 00.770 LACK OF A REDUCTION PROVISION

02:07 - 02.470 IN THE REAL ESTATE, ACTUALLY

02:07 - 04.920 THE LAW. MILEAGE EQUAL

02:07 - 07.230 PROTECTION. I'M STRUCK.

02:07 - 11.430 >>THANK YOU MISTER CHIEF

02:07 - 13.410 JUSTICE SUMMIT HE SUPPORTS MY

02:07 - 14.390 NAME IS GREG JACKSON AND

02:07 - 15.740 REPRESENT JUST IN

02:07 - 18.060 JULIE'S HOUSE. LAURISSA

02:07 - 19.800 MY CLIENTS KNOW NAMES SOME

02:07 - 23.230 PROCESS WAS TO STUDENTS.

02:07 - 25.790 CASES LISTED AS WALKER SAYS

02:07 - 27.270 SERIOUSLY ART.

02:07 - 29.580 FIRST OF ALL LET ME

02:07 - 32.050 APOLOGIZE FOR MY OFFICE IS

02:07 - 34.060 LOCATED VERY CLOSELY VERY BUSY

02:07 - 36.900 TRAIN. FLOSSIE EASTBOUND TRAINS

02:07 - 38.200 BLOW THEIR WHISTLE LITERALLY

02:07 - 38.720 OUTSIDE

02:07 - 41.130 OF MIAMI. IT'S IN THE PROCESS

02:07 - 43.400 OF SPEAKING HE GOT ROUNDED OUT

02:07 - 45.270 BY THE SOUND OF THE TRAIN JUST

02:07 - 45.810 LIKE ALL

02:07 - 46.290 OF US.

02:07 - 48.530 >>AND WE NEED TO TAKE A PAUSE

02:07 - 49.750 WILL BEAR WITH IT.

02:07 - 51.050 >>THANK YOU TOUR.

02:07 - 54.510 >>FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY

02:07 - 56.650 ANY ISSUES RAISED MY COLLEAGUE

02:07 - 59.630 IT GRIEF. WE ARE NOT OUR

02:07 - 00.840 DUTY THAT.

02:08 - 01.620 >>THE.

02:08 - 03.450 >>RIGHT TO REDEMPTION IN OF

02:08 - 05.430 ITSELF IS A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT.

02:08 - 09.490 >>WE ARE WHAT WE ARE ARGUING IS

02:08 - 09.800 THAT.

02:08 - 13.070 >>SACKS THAT THERE IS A STATUTE

02:08 - 15.110 GOVERNING ENTIRE U.S. LATE EACH

02:08 - 16.420 CONTAINS THAT VISION

02:08 - 18.720 AND THEN A STATUTE THAT

02:08 - 19.240 GOVERNS.

02:08 - 21.380 >>ANOTHER PART ONLY SEEING A

02:08 - 23.740 PART OF THE. WELL THAT DOES

02:08 - 25.510 NOT CONTAIN THAT

02:08 - 27.420 EVENTUALLY VISION THAT'S A

02:08 - 29.670 VIOLATION OF MY CLIENTS, THE

02:08 - 31.980 PROTECTION, WE'RE NOT ARGUING

02:08 - 33.240 THAT THE RIGHT ITSELF IS

02:08 - 35.030 FUNDAMENTAL IT'S THE FACT THAT

02:08 - 36.330 SOME PEOPLE HAVE THE

02:08 - 38.240 OPPORTUNITY AND OTHERS DID NOT

02:08 - 39.760 IS A VIOLATION OF EQUAL

02:08 - 40.300 PROTECTION.

02:08 - 44.620 HE WOULD THAT WORK.

02:08 - 47.310 >>EVERYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO

02:08 - 48.460 SAY BEFORE WE BEGIN

02:08 - 49.040 THE QUESTION.

02:08 - 50.950 >>NOW FOR THAT CLARIFICATION I

02:08 - 51.900 WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF

02:08 - 52.720 THE REST.

02:08 - 54.360 >>THANK YOU. MISTER JACKSON,

02:08 - 56.310 YES, AS WE'RE ACTION. WELL

02:08 - 57.470 THANK YOU TO YOU DOES THIS

02:08 - 59.030 COUNCIL. YEAH,

02:08 - 02.510 WORRYINGLY REDEMPTION. ISSUE

02:09 - 04.070 THE SIDE FOR A MOMENT ARE

02:09 - 06.670 THERE OTHER ASPECTS OTHER

02:09 - 08.930 HIGHLIGHTED IN

02:09 - 13.400 THE CASE. IT ALLOW SOME

02:09 - 15.750 RATIONAL BASIS DIFFERENTIATION

02:09 - 17.930 USE SUCH AS THE STAYING IN

02:09 - 22.690 ASPECT OF THE RED SOLE AND THE

02:09 - 24.400 GREATER DEMANDS OF NOTABLES

02:09 - 27.600 NOTICE IN THE RATS ALL THAT

02:09 - 28.160 WOULD GO.

02:09 - 32.820 COMPENSATE FOR THE LACK OF

02:09 - 33.610 ACTION RIGHT HERE.

02:09 - 36.300 >>I DON'T THINK SO YOUR HONOR

02:09 - 37.690 HE HAS THE.

02:09 - 40.220 THE REDEMPTION PROVISION THAT

02:09 - 41.010 EXISTS

02:09 - 45.650 IN THE ALL THAT IS LUSTY LEFT

02:09 - 46.510 IN ITS 3RD.

02:09 - 51.080 >>THE THAT IS YOU EVEN BE ABLE

02:09 - 52.290 TO AVAIL YOURSELF OF THAT

02:09 - 53.800 PROVISION IS CERTAINLY

02:09 - 56.220 A GREATER PROTECTION THAN BEING

02:09 - 57.850 SOLID POSITIONS WITH THE

02:09 - 00.050 NOTICE RECALL. SO I DON'T I

02:10 - 01.240 DON'T THINK THAT THE 2 ARE

02:10 - 03.170 NECESSARILY WILL. THERE

02:10 - 04.600 STATUS.

02:10 - 08.100 >>IF I BRIEF SUPPOSING

02:10 - 10.460 THAT WE APPLY RATIONAL BASIS

02:10 - 11.100 REVIEW.

02:10 - 15.460 >>DOES THAT DIFFERENTIATION IN

02:10 - 17.200 NEW YORK VIEW.

02:10 - 23.120 AMOUNT TO SOMETHING IRRATIONAL

02:10 - 25.310 BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY RATHER

02:10 - 25.880 THAN A.

02:10 - 31.820 AN ATTEMPT BY THE LEGISLATURE

02:10 - 33.070 TO ACCOUNT FOR DIFFERENCES

02:10 - 35.230 BETWEEN ORAL AND A LARGE URBAN

02:10 - 35.820 DISTRICTS.

02:10 - 38.060 >>I DON'T YOUR

02:10 - 40.120 HONOR BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF

02:10 - 42.240 THE TAX SALE IS TO GET THE

02:10 - 43.830 VALUE OF THE TAXES INTO THE

02:10 - 45.020 OFFICE A LOCAL.

02:10 - 49.150 STILL UP. AND THAT GOAL

02:10 - 50.240 IS ACCOMPLISHED

02:10 - 52.070 REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU ARE

02:10 - 53.860 PROCEEDING UNDER THE TAX ALONG

02:10 - 56.190 WITH THE NEWS MEDIA TAX SO

02:10 - 58.760 THE MALL PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE

02:10 - 59.670 GOOD AT THOSE

02:10 - 02.590 TESTS SALES. AND REGARDLESS OF

02:11 - 03.930 WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S THAT

02:11 - 05.240 THEIR REDEMPTION PERIOD.

02:11 - 06.940 THE QUESTION IS HOW LONG DO

02:11 - 07.740 THEY HAVE TO WAIT

02:11 - 10.330 UNTIL THAT IT WILL NOT GET THE

02:11 - 11.780 LAY SHE'S GOING TO BEAR FRUIT.

02:11 - 20.670 I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

02:11 - 23.450 YES THE SQUARE.

02:11 - 28.150 >>IN RESPONSE TO JUST A SWEAT.

02:11 - 34.010 HIS SUGGESTION, THERE'S A

02:11 - 35.840 RATIONAL BASIS THAT THEY MET

02:11 - 38.280 THE TEST FOR EQUAL PROTECTION.

02:11 - 40.380 I MEAN THESE TAXES IS THERE A

02:11 - 41.220 RATIONAL BASE.

02:11 - 44.380 >>IF ARE YOU NO LONGER

02:11 - 45.370 CAN PENDING.

02:11 - 47.370 >>THAT THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL

02:11 - 48.610 RIGHT SUBJECT TO STRICT

02:11 - 49.210 SCRUTINY.

02:11 - 51.820 >>HERE I BELIEVE IT IS A

02:11 - 53.140 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT SUBJECT TO

02:11 - 54.010 STRICT SCRUTINY.

02:11 - 56.160 >>LEAST OF ALL ME BECAUSE OF A

02:11 - 57.010 PROSTITUTION

02:11 - 59.670 WILL PROVIDES THAT WIRE INCEST

02:11 - 01.290 AND PROTECTING PROPERTY AND

02:12 - 02.010 IT'S A SHOE.

02:12 - 05.640 ALSO I HAD AS YOU CAN DO THIS

02:12 - 08.490 AT SCHOOL. THIS IS WHAT RIGHTS.

02:12 - 09.840 I THINK IT WILL THE

02:12 - 12.260 PROPERTY RIGHTS ENJOY THE SAME

02:12 - 14.430 STATUS, HIS REPUTATION WHICH

02:12 - 15.430 HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE A

02:12 - 16.260 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT.

02:12 - 20.210 >>THIS ISN'T JUST A

02:12 - 22.880 QUICK FOLLOW-UP. GOVERNMENT CAN

02:12 - 24.370 TAX YOUR REAL PROPERTY

02:12 - 26.170 GOVERNMENT IN SONIA REAL

02:12 - 26.970 PROPERTY.

02:12 - 30.640 >>IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR TAXES.

02:12 - 33.740 CHAPMAN CAN FACILITATE THE

02:12 - 35.170 TAKING OF YOUR PROPERTY.

02:12 - 38.810 >>TO TO TO TO TO GET BACK

02:12 - 41.130 TO TEXAS. SO THIS IS REALLY

02:12 - 43.320 ABOUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

02:12 - 45.440 IT'S ABOUT A DIMINISHMENT OF

02:12 - 47.780 RIGHTS AQUINAS CONDUCT BY THE

02:12 - 48.180 SAYS.

02:12 - 50.640 >>WHAT

02:12 - 52.370 WHAT WE ARE ARGUING IS THAT THE

02:12 - 54.290 FACT THAT ONE GROUP OF CITIZENS

02:12 - 56.230 HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROTECT ITS

02:12 - 58.160 WELL ANOTHER CITIZENS WHO ARE

02:12 - 00.210 IN TIME AND IDENTICAL SITUATION

02:13 - 02.470 THEY HAVE THEIR TAXES. THEY

02:13 - 04.570 DON'T HAVE THAT SAME ROUTE AND

02:13 - 06.070 SO IT'S JUST THAT

02:13 - 07.800 THERE IS A DIFFERENTIATION MADE

02:13 - 09.470 BETWEEN WHERE SOMEONE LIVES IN

02:13 - 10.300 THE OPEN GOLF

02:13 - 11.820 AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE

02:13 - 13.390 THE ABILITY TO EXERCISE

02:13 - 16.150 PROTECTIONS FOR THEIR PROBLEM.

02:13 - 17.910 >>ALL RIGHT KAI

02:13 - 19.940 THANK YOU, I GOT IT.

02:13 - 22.120 >>THANK YOU JUSTICE DONE HERE.

02:13 - 25.010 >>COUNCIL TO DECLARE BUY

02:13 - 26.980 SOMETHING FOR ME PLEASE ON.

02:13 - 28.560 >>AND YEAH.

02:13 - 31.680 >>KEY DEW THE COUNTY SAID ALAN

02:13 - 33.320 GET ANY IN PHILADELPHIA.

02:13 - 34.420 >>HAVE

02:13 - 37.710 THE OPTION. I'VE USING I VERY

02:13 - 38.610 BEING YES BILL

02:13 - 42.880 CLAIMS ACT OR REAL ESTATE SALES

02:13 - 45.330 TAX LIKE THAT. IS AT

02:13 - 45.890 PLAY HERE.

02:13 - 46.860 GERMANY.

02:13 - 50.030 >>HERE THAT YET THE TAX LEVY

02:13 - 51.290 LAW WHICH

02:13 - 54.450 SO TOO BY THE U N C

02:13 - 57.180 T L WHICH ONLY

02:13 - 00.300 APPLIES IN WE USE THOSE WHO

02:14 - 01.720 STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

02:14 - 02.720 OPTION ACT.

02:14 - 06.850 OTHER COUNTIES WHICH THAT

02:14 - 09.940 AND CTL FLIES.

02:14 - 13.530 ALL OF THAT RAIN THIS YEAR.

02:14 - 18.330 THE COUNTIES WHERE THAT APPLIES

02:14 - 20.650 MAY ALSO OPT IN TO EASE THE

02:14 - 22.630 OTHER TAX SALE LAW.

02:14 - 28.240 >>SO THE LEGISLATURE REALLY HAD

02:14 - 29.340 NOT A A

02:14 - 32.230 CHOICE TO DISTINGUISH

02:14 - 34.220 BETWEEN 2 DIFFERENT CLASSES IN

02:14 - 37.390 COUNTY IN ACTUALITY. SINCE

02:14 - 37.750 THE OTHER

02:14 - 40.980 65 COUNTIES AND BASED UPON

02:14 - 42.900 THEIR OWN LOCAL DECISION-MAKING

02:14 - 44.840 DECIDE TO PROVIDE A BREAK FOR

02:14 - 45.380 REDEMPTION.

02:14 - 47.930 >>I TOLD YOU I DID NOT HEAR

02:14 - 48.560 YOUR QUESTION.

02:14 - 52.950 >>I THE LEGISLATURE

02:14 - 55.070 THAN REALLY DIDN'T MAKE A HARD

02:14 - 56.900 AND FAST FOR A STEP THE OTHER

02:14 - 59.270 60 BY CAMPESE CAN'T NOT

02:14 - 01.150 PROVIDING RIGHT AT THE GET SOME

02:15 - 01.500 SUN.

02:15 - 03.930 >>NO YOUR HONOR THAT THOUGH THE

02:15 - 05.580 OTHER COUNTIES HAVE THE OPTION

02:15 - 05.760 OF

02:15 - 08.180 U C THE STATUTE THAT INCLUDES

02:15 - 09.640 THE RIGHT TO USE. YES.

02:15 - 16.400 >>YEAH, I'M INADVERTENTLY

02:15 - 18.040 PASSED OVER GUESTS TO STOP.

02:15 - 20.820 >>THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT.

02:15 - 21.650 THANK YOU CHIEF.

02:15 - 26.510 DON'T

02:15 - 28.440 NOT REALLY YOU MISS

02:15 - 31.590 TRUSS ROOF. TEST AND RATHER FLY

02:15 - 33.250 THE RATIONAL BASIS TEST.

02:15 - 35.540 IF YOU WANT TO DRESS THE

02:15 - 38.250 RECENT IS A LOGICAL REASON

02:15 - 40.930 FRENCHY NATION LOWER. WE'RE

02:15 - 43.710 EXCITED TOO. AS WHY THERE WAS A

02:15 - 44.970 RUSSIAN ACES.

02:15 - 47.180 SANCTION.

02:15 - 48.270 >>WELL.

02:15 - 51.020 >>THE 2 LOWER COURTS. THE TOP

02:15 - 52.270 WORD AND THEN OH WELL.

02:15 - 54.400 >>UP WITH DIFFERENT RESCUE

02:15 - 56.760 ORGANIZATIONS AND THEY THEY

02:15 - 59.140 BASICALLY I DEALT WITH THE IDEA

02:15 - 01.480 THAT IT'S OK THAT THE POPULATED

02:16 - 03.940 PLACE IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR

02:16 - 07.200 WHETHER OR NOT WRITERS READ NC

02:16 - 07.690 O'CLOCK.

02:16 - 11.540 >>WELL, YES,

02:16 - 13.490 BUT THEN WENT FURTHER AND

02:16 - 16.090 IDENTIFIED SPECIFICS A CHANCE

02:16 - 17.900 INTENTIONAL REASONS FOR

02:16 - 19.220 DIFFERENTIATION.

02:16 - 22.810 >>INCLUDED BE. HE'S SO CHEATING

02:16 - 25.060 ATTACKS A LITTLE MORE POPULOUS

02:16 - 28.530 COUNTY. AND ADDITIONAL.

02:16 - 31.640 EXPLANATIONS ON THE

02:16 - 34.860 LEGISLATURE. JENSEN TO MAKE

02:16 - 35.470 THIS DIFFERENT.

02:16 - 37.330 ARE YOU JUST

02:16 - 38.640 DISREGARDING THOSE.

02:16 - 41.270 >>IT'S YOUR EYES IN A MATTER OF

02:16 - 42.400 DISREGARDING I WOULD I

02:16 - 44.430 WOULD DISAGREE THAT THE

02:16 - 46.250 POPULATION OF THE LOW 60'S

02:16 - 48.270 SHOULD DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT

02:16 - 49.310 WE BELIEVE THAT

02:16 - 50.720 THE PROPERTY. THE FACT THAT

02:16 - 52.480 MORE BIDDERS MAY SHOW UP IN

02:16 - 54.650 PHILADELPHIA. AND SO THEREFORE

02:16 - 55.840 THE PEOPLE WHO SOUGHT OUT THE

02:16 - 57.970 ISSUE NOW GREATER ACTION TO

02:16 - 01.080 PROTECT PROPERTY. THAT

02:17 - 04.070 THAT DOESN'T MAKES SENSE TO ME

02:17 - 05.040 IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER

02:17 - 06.410 WHETHER THEY'RE 10 PEOPLE THE

02:17 - 08.560 SALE OF 3 PEOPLE IN SALE IF THE

02:17 - 10.460 PROPERTY IS SO THE PERSON THAT

02:17 - 12.620 OWNS THE PROPERTY CRIME.

02:17 - 14.170 THEY'RE NOT REALLY CONCERNED AS

02:17 - 15.390 TO HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOWED UP AT

02:17 - 15.860 THE OFFICE.

02:17 - 20.440 >>THANK YOU

02:17 - 23.650 JUSTICE DAUGHERTY'S SHARK YOU

02:17 - 25.730 FIND THAT CLASSIFICATION BASED

02:17 - 27.970 UPON POPULATION A LEGITIMATE

02:17 - 29.480 DISTINCTION FOR PROPERTY

02:17 - 29.950 OWNERSHIP.

02:17 - 32.650 >>NOT FOR PROPERTY OWNERSHIP,

02:17 - 34.300 YOUR HONOR BECAUSE IT BECAUSE

02:17 - 35.670 REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU LIVE

02:17 - 35.860 YOU

02:17 - 38.080 OWN PROPERTY AND THE ONE CAN

02:17 - 40.970 OWN PROPERTY LOCATION OR THE

02:17 - 42.930 PROPERTY IN A RURAL LOCATION.

02:17 - 44.000 AND YOU HAVE

02:17 - 46.600 TO SAY ATTACHMENT AND ENJOYMENT

02:17 - 48.200 OF THE REAL PROPERTY REGARDLESS

02:17 - 50.360 OF THE POPULATION THAT YOU OWN

02:17 - 50.560 IT.

02:17 - 55.570 >>I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER.

02:17 - 57.860 AND MISTER

02:17 - 00.390 WHERE YOU'RE LIKE

02:18 - 04.980 A A ARE YOU. SUMMARIZING

02:18 - 06.130 CONCLUDES YOUR REGULAR.

02:18 - 08.750 >>NOW AS WE SET FORTH

02:18 - 10.970 EVERY OUR POSITION IS THAT

02:18 - 12.740 WHERE SOMEONE LIVES IN THE

02:18 - 14.560 OFFENSE YOU SHOULD DICTATE

02:18 - 15.710 WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE THE

02:18 - 17.620 ABILITY TO PROTECT THEIR

02:18 - 19.570 PROPERTY AND THE

02:18 - 25.780 ACTOR LEAST SMYTH THE SITUATION

02:18 - 27.350 IN THAT MY CLIENTS

02:18 - 28.340 LIVES IN

02:18 - 29.910 AND JAMES STREETS AND COMING

02:18 - 33.600 BEEN SOLD OUT THE OPPORTUNITY

02:18 - 35.560 TO SAVE THEIR PROPERTY AFTER

02:18 - 37.400 THE SALE. THE FACT THAT THEY

02:18 - 39.700 LIVE IN A WORLD LOCATION SHOULD

02:18 - 41.560 BE THE SEAT THAT OPPORTUNITIES.

02:18 - 44.450 >>THANK YOU AND YOU ARE.

02:18 - 46.680 MR. HAUSER.

02:18 - 50.050 >>THANK YOU MISTER CHIEF

02:18 - 51.310 JUSTICE AND MAY IT PLEASE

02:18 - 54.500 THE COURT. I THINK THE COURT

02:18 - 56.340 HAS QUESTIONS HAS ENCAPSULATED

02:18 - 58.480 MUCH OF THE BASIS

02:18 - 00.580 FOR AROUND KELLY'S POSITION IN

02:19 - 01.330 THIS MATTER.

02:19 - 04.060 I WOULD JUST BEFORE

02:19 - 06.510 A QUESTIONS. INDICATING

02:19 - 08.830 THIS THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN

02:19 - 10.680 CONSIDERED A LEAST IN SOME FORM

02:19 - 13.600 THIS BY THIS ABOUT

02:19 - 16.230 60 YEARS AGO. AND THE LIKE THE

02:19 - 18.980 HISTORY WAS OUTLINED IN THAT IN

02:19 - 20.320 THAT IN THOSE DECISIONS

02:19 - 22.310 I THINK

02:19 - 23.770 MISTER JACKSON'S INDICATION

02:19 - 25.340 THAT THE RIGHT TO REDEEM IS NOT

02:19 - 26.450 A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT.

02:19 - 28.480 THAT WOULD BE OUR POSITION AS

02:19 - 32.100 YEAR HONORS. AS IT IS NOT A

02:19 - 34.070 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT. I DON'T

02:19 - 35.750 THINK THAT IS NECESSARY TO

02:19 - 37.120 REACH THE QUESTION OF WHETHER

02:19 - 39.150 THE RIGHT TO OBTAIN ALL RIGHT.

02:19 - 41.480 RETAIN PROPERTY IS NECESSARILY

02:19 - 42.460 A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT IN THE

02:19 - 44.810 CONTEXT OF THIS CASE. THE RIGHT

02:19 - 44.950 TO

02:19 - 48.140 SOMETHING THAT IS A STATUTORY

02:19 - 49.860 RIGHT IF IT'S IN VALUE WEIGHTED

02:19 - 51.140 BALL, CONSTITUTIONALLY I

02:19 - 53.460 BELIEVE RATIONAL BASIS ANALYSIS

02:19 - 55.470 IS THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO

02:19 - 58.280 DO THAT. THERE IS A RATIONAL

02:19 - 00.010 BASIS FOR THIS WHETHER IT BE

02:20 - 02.050 THE POPULATION DISTINCTION THAT

02:20 - 03.280 WAS OUTLINED BELOW

02:20 - 05.610 OR THE AS OUTLINED IN OUR

02:20 - 07.190 RECENT THERE IS AN EQUAL BE

02:20 - 08.690 THE 2 PROCEDURES OF THE 2

02:20 - 10.460 STATUES ARE ROUGHLY EQUIVALENT,

02:20 - 11.770 ALTHOUGH THE ONE DOES NOT

02:20 - 13.660 CONTAIN A RIGHT OF REDEMPTION.

02:20 - 16.120 CONTAINS MUCH MORE FROM AND.

02:20 - 18.310 NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND THE

02:20 - 20.160 OPTION TO PAY IN INSTALLMENTS

02:20 - 22.750 WHICH WOULD GIVE A GREATER

02:20 - 24.070 OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IT GIVES

02:20 - 25.490 THE OPPORTUNITY TO PAY THAT

02:20 - 26.710 AMOUNT OVER THE COURSE OF

02:20 - 29.370 A YEAR RATHER I BELIEVE THE 9

02:20 - 31.100 MONTHS WHICH RIGHT OF

02:20 - 33.800 REDEMPTION IN B AND C T LA

02:20 - 36.250 WHAT HAPPENED THIS

02:20 - 37.880 TIME AND THAT'S RELATIVELY

02:20 - 39.740 RECENT THAT ABOUT PERIOD OF THE

02:20 - 40.530 RIGHT TO READ AND SHE

02:20 - 43.120 HAS MOVED. BACK AND FORTH OVER

02:20 - 44.690 AND OVER TIME IS TO THE EXTENT

02:20 - 46.260 OF THE WHO'S IN TIME TO TAKE

02:20 - 46.780 ADVANTAGE

02:20 - 48.460 OF IT. AT ONE TIME IT ALSO

02:20 - 50.550 EXTENDED TO JUDGMENT CREDITORS

02:20 - 52.420 AND THEY'RE A SIAMESE AS WELL

02:20 - 53.520 AND SO YOU'RE ON IT.

02:20 - 54.960 WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A

02:20 - 56.610 RATIONAL BASIS FOR THE REASONS

02:20 - 58.080 ARE CALCULATED BELOW THE

02:20 - 00.190 REASONS ARTICULATED IN FAIRNESS

02:21 - 00.380 THE IN

02:21 - 03.670 DIFFERENT COUNTIES, DIFFERENT

02:21 - 05.260 POPULATIONS OF EASE OF

02:21 - 06.740 OBTAINING TAX TITLES AND

02:21 - 08.640 DIFFERENT REGIONS WRITING THAT

02:21 - 10.950 OPPORTUNITY. AND AT THE SAME

02:21 - 12.860 TIME ENSURE THAT THERE IS AN

02:21 - 14.510 AMPLE OPPORTUNITY HER NAME IS

02:21 - 15.910 AN AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE

02:21 - 17.270 TAX THERE TO PROTECT

02:21 - 19.070 HIS OR HER PROPERTY WHETHER IT

02:21 - 20.750 BE BY INSTALLMENT PAYMENTS

02:21 - 22.520 ON THE FRONT END OR RIGHT TO

02:21 - 23.750 REDEEM ON THE BACK AND HE

02:21 - 24.740 BELIEVES THAT ANY

02:21 - 26.740 EQUAL PROTECTION. TESTED IN

02:21 - 28.020 COURT WOULD WISH TO APPLY WOULD

02:21 - 29.120 BE THE SIZE.

02:21 - 33.950 >>JUSTICE WILL ACT. THANK YOU

02:21 - 35.540 CHIEF JUSTICE. GOOD AFTERNOON

02:21 - 36.090 COUNCIL.

02:21 - 39.410 LATELY HAD SOME OPPORTUNITIES

02:21 - 40.870 TO WRITE ABOUT.

02:21 - 43.290 ABOUT

02:21 - 46.500 RIGHT OF ENJOYING IN DEFENDING

02:21 - 48.100 OR OF ACQUIRING POSSESSING AND

02:21 - 49.350 PROTECTING REPUTATION.

02:21 - 52.660 >>ALL OF THIS CASE ARE.

02:21 - 57.010 >>IN EURO ADVERSARIES VIEW

02:21 - 58.010 IMPLICATES

02:21 - 00.950 >>ACQUIRING POSSESSING AND

02:22 - 02.480 PROTECTING PROPERTY ASPECT.

02:22 - 05.420 THE MAYOR TO RECENTLY SO I

02:22 - 06.960 GUESS MY QUESTION NEWS THIS

02:22 - 08.540 HOUR WITH REGARD TO THE LEVEL

02:22 - 08.610 OF

02:22 - 11.540 SCRUTINY HERE. IF I'M IN THIS

02:22 - 13.020 PARTICULAR CONTEXT.

02:22 - 17.890 PROPERTY IS NOT TO BE VIEWED

02:22 - 19.170 THROUGH THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT.

02:22 - 20.580 LANDS

02:22 - 22.990 ARE THERE ANY OTHER CONTEXT IN

02:22 - 25.470 WHICH THIS PROPERTY RIGHT IN

02:22 - 26.920 OUR DECLARATION OF RIGHTS

02:22 - 29.740 IS TO BE MEASURED UNDER A

02:22 - 31.340 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS LEVEL

02:22 - 31.950 OF SCRUTINY.

02:22 - 34.250 >>WELL HER OWNER DOESN'T APPEAR

02:22 - 36.560 TO ME THAT THERE THERE HAS

02:22 - 40.460 BEEN ONE TODAY AND IN LIFE AND

02:22 - 41.580 IN THAT REGARD.

02:22 - 43.560 WE LOOK AT PROBABLY THE

02:22 - 47.650 MOST DEPRIVATION OF OF OF

02:22 - 48.810 PROPERTY THAT OF EMINENT

02:22 - 51.150 DOMAIN. UNDER THE FEDERAL

02:22 - 52.600 CONSTITUTION AS WELL AS THIS

02:22 - 53.690 CONSTITUTION.

02:22 - 56.440 OBVIOUSLY THE FEDERAL COURTS

02:22 - 58.820 HAVE REPEATEDLY IN THE U.S.

02:22 - 00.440 SUPREME COURT HAS SENATOR RIGHT

02:23 - 01.120 TO PROPERTY IS

02:23 - 02.960 NOT FUNDAMENTAL. THERE'S SUCH

02:23 - 04.760 AN EMINENT DOMAIN EXERCISE DOES

02:23 - 05.190 NOT BEAR

02:23 - 07.660 STRICT SCRUTINY. IN FACT AS I

02:23 - 08.980 THINK THIS COURT IS WELL AWARE

02:23 - 10.780 WHAT HAPPENED IN THE HILO CASE

02:23 - 12.360 ABOUT A DECADE AGO AND

02:23 - 13.620 PENNSYLVANIA'S RESPONSE

02:23 - 16.180 TO THAT. I THINK THAT IT'S BEEN

02:23 - 17.650 THE EVERY

02:23 - 21.190 I GUESS TO TAKE IT TO ITS LIMIT

02:23 - 23.140 TO SEE WHETHER. THERE'S A

02:23 - 24.200 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT IF THERE'S

02:23 - 26.500 NOT ONE IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE

02:23 - 27.520 I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE

02:23 - 28.980 IS A A

02:23 - 32.010 RESPONSIBILITY BE A PART OF THE

02:23 - 33.970 PUBLIC COURTS TO SAFEGUARD IN

02:23 - 35.300 IT WITH A STRICT SCRUTINY

02:23 - 37.750 ANALYSIS, HOWEVER I DOES FALL

02:23 - 39.530 UPON THE LEGISLATURE AS IT HAS

02:23 - 40.880 IN THE FIRST, YOU KNOW CASE TO

02:23 - 43.660 ENSURE. THAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE

02:23 - 44.890 EQUALLY PROTECTED UNDER

02:23 - 46.470 RATIONAL BASIS STANDARD WHICH

02:23 - 48.610 I THINK LEGISLATURE MADE A

02:23 - 50.340 DECISION TO LIMIT THE UH PLAY

02:23 - 51.870 FOOTBALL. YOU THAT HE LO CASE

02:23 - 54.810 IN PENNSYLVANIA. AND IN THIS

02:23 - 56.060 PARTICULAR CASE OF THE

02:23 - 58.300 LEGISLATURE HAS PROVIDED EQUAL

02:23 - 58.840 AND FORMS

02:23 - 00.190 OF PROTECTION. ONE OF THE

02:24 - 01.460 FOREFRONT OF NOTICE AND THE

02:24 - 02.850 OTHER IN THE FORM OF AND BACK

02:24 - 04.210 IN THE U.S. OR PERHAPS YOU'RE

02:24 - 06.390 100 LONG LAWYERS OF ANSWERING

02:24 - 07.350 THE FACT THAT I

02:24 - 10.980 DO NOT NO THE AREA WHERE A OR

02:24 - 12.280 EXCUSE ME RESTRICTS HER TO

02:24 - 12.980 WOULD BE APPLIED TO

02:24 - 15.510 PROPERTY RIGHTS. GIVING GIVEN

02:24 - 16.530 THE HISTORY OF THE DEVELOPMENT

02:24 - 17.820 OF THAT AREA OF THE LAW.

02:24 - 19.390 >>INTERESTING INTERESTING.

02:24 - 22.670 THANK YOU COUNCIL. JUST

02:24 - 25.630 THIS MONDAY. QUESTIONS

02:24 - 27.100 THANK YOU. THANK YOU

02:24 - 29.040 JUST DESPAIR. I HAVE NO

02:24 - 30.390 QUESTIONS CHIEF THANK YOU.

02:24 - 31.910 STRIDES.

02:24 - 34.380 >>QUESTIONS IT ALL.

02:24 - 36.580 >>I DO CHEAT IF I MAY.

02:24 - 42.440 MY QUESTION COUNCIL SO IS IT

02:24 - 44.650 YOUR POSITION. IF YOU BELIEVE

02:24 - 45.840 CLASSIFICATION BASED

02:24 - 48.540 UPON POPULATION. IT IS THE

02:24 - 50.010 RATIONAL RELATIONSHIP TO THE

02:24 - 51.600 DISPATCHER THAT HE'S NOT US.

02:24 - 53.410 >>WELL YOU'RE ON OR IS IT IS

02:24 - 56.770 RATIONAL RELATIONSHIP THAT HAS

02:24 - 58.800 BEEN ARTICULATED BEFORE AND

02:24 - 00.240 COULD BE ARTICULATED I

02:25 - 02.140 AS I KNOW THAT THE COURT IS

02:25 - 04.520 FOR RATIONAL BASIS TEST.

02:25 - 05.900 IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BE

02:25 - 06.520 NECESSARY

02:25 - 09.250 TO SAY THE LEGISLATURE HAD

02:25 - 11.520 PARTICULAR BASES IN MIND ARE

02:25 - 12.950 ARTICULATED THIS PARTICULAR

02:25 - 14.900 BASIS FOR A RATIONAL BASIS

02:25 - 17.470 REVIEW STAND IS ONLY NECESSARY

02:25 - 19.000 TO SAY THAT THIS THIS IS A

02:25 - 20.600 RATIONAL BASIS UPON WHICH THE

02:25 - 21.370 LATEST

02:25 - 25.320 ON HAVE. AGES SUBMITTED

02:25 - 28.190 STATION POPULATION IS IS ONE

02:25 - 30.190 POTENTIAL BASIS. I THINK THAT

02:25 - 33.730 HE TYPE OF IN THE

02:25 - 35.550 DIFFERENT COUNTIES AS FAR AS

02:25 - 37.680 THE EVERY SIZE OF THE LAND

02:25 - 39.130 COULD BE ANOTHER. I DON'T

02:25 - 40.350 THINK WE'VE ARGUED THAT, BUT I

02:25 - 41.560 THINK THAT THERE ARE THERE ARE

02:25 - 43.070 BASES TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN

02:25 - 44.280 THE PLASTIC NATIONS OF

02:25 - 45.900 COUNTIES. AS WE

02:25 - 48.680 ARGUED BELOW PERMIT THAT THAT

02:25 - 49.740 SORT OF DISTINCTION TO

02:25 - 52.470 BE MADE. AND AS WELL YOUR HONOR

02:25 - 54.450 I THINK THAT THE COURT COULD

02:25 - 56.050 HAVE DECIDED SIMPLY TO CREATE

02:25 - 57.370 OR EXCUSE ME THE LEGISLATURE

02:25 - 58.580 COULD HAVE DECIDED SIMPLY

02:25 - 01.380 TO CREATE EQUAL

02:26 - 03.860 MEANS OF A ALLOWING FOR

02:26 - 05.580 PROPERTY TAX SALES

02:26 - 08.500 TOOK HER. PROVIDED IN SOME

02:26 - 10.480 CIRCUMSTANCES THEY DECIDED THAT

02:26 - 13.250 IF A COUNTY OPTED INTO ONE THAT

02:26 - 14.720 PUT MORE NOTICE IN THE FRONT

02:26 - 16.640 ALLOWING THE STUDY AT THE END

02:26 - 18.580 TO BE TRANSFERRED MORE QUICKLY.

02:26 - 21.060 COUNTY AND ITS DECISION-MAKING

02:26 - 22.900 COULD AN OFFER THAT BASED ON

02:26 - 23.080 HIS

02:26 - 25.080 LOCAL CIRCUMSTANCES OVER ON THE

02:26 - 27.590 OTHER HAND ONE ENABLE THE SALE

02:26 - 28.960 TO HAPPEN MORE QUICKLY AFTER

02:26 - 31.090 THE TAXES WERE DUE. BUT

02:26 - 31.630 HELD UP.

02:26 - 34.560 THE U D E HIRING OUT IF YOU

02:26 - 35.880 WOULD HAVE TITLE TO THAT UNTIL

02:26 - 35.960 THE

02:26 - 37.990 BACK END MIGHT APPEAL TO OTHER

02:26 - 39.580 COUNTIES BASED UPON THE NATURES

02:26 - 40.560 OF THE PROPERTIES

02:26 - 42.730 AND THE APPETITE FOR SALES AND

02:26 - 43.810 IN THOSE COUNTIES.

02:26 - 47.570 YES, JOHNNY YEAR.

02:26 - 50.590 >>I COUNSEL I GETTING BACK TO

02:26 - 51.900 THE NATURE OF THE RIGHT ID

02:26 - 53.350 ISSUE LIFE THAT YOU'RE

02:26 - 54.710 DISCUSSING WITH JUSTICE

02:26 - 57.570 I MEAN YOUR REFERENCE TO THIS

02:26 - 59.610 FEDERAL COURT DECISION I IN

02:26 - 01.660 THIS AREA ARE INTERESTING BUT

02:27 - 02.750 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE

02:27 - 04.830 PENNSYLVANIA CONSTITUTION THAT

02:27 - 07.630 RESERVES RIGHTS TO THE CITIZENS

02:27 - 09.610 OF THE COMMONWEALTH, SO WE'RE

02:27 - 11.210 ON A DIFFERENT FOOTING.

02:27 - 13.970 AND IN THAT

02:27 - 17.250 REGARD. I IT COULD BE COULD BE

02:27 - 20.470 YOUR I COULD COULD BE.

02:27 - 22.450 SCHEME

02:27 - 24.070 THAT WE HAVE AN ISSUE HERE WITH

02:27 - 25.790 CERTAIN COUNTIES BE HAVING THE

02:27 - 27.870 RIGHT TO REDEEM EITHER CITIZENS

02:27 - 28.810 AND OTHERS NOT.

02:27 - 31.490 IF WE DECIDED THAT THIS WAS AN

02:27 - 34.380 IMPORTANT BUT NOT A FUNDAMENTAL

02:27 - 34.690 RIGHT.

02:27 - 37.130 THIS

02:27 - 39.880 SCHEME SURVIVE. I'M THE

02:27 - 41.760 SCRUTINY ATTENDANT TO

02:27 - 44.480 THAT INTERMEDIATE WELL WHICH IS

02:27 - 46.520 A SUBSTANTIAL RELATIONSHIP TO

02:27 - 47.550 AN IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT

02:27 - 48.050 INTEREST.

02:27 - 50.350 >>YES, YOUR HONOR I I BELIEVE

02:27 - 52.310 THAT IT COULD WAS MY

02:27 - 54.120 UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEAL WAS

02:27 - 56.070 BASED ON ON BOTH CONSTITUTION

02:27 - 57.280 WHICH IS WHY I ARGUE THAT, BUT

02:27 - 58.600 I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS THE

02:27 - 00.230 PENNSYLVANIA CONSTITUTION AND

02:28 - 01.860 ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THIS

02:28 - 03.900 DEPENDING ON HOW THE COURT

02:28 - 05.610 CATEGORIZE IT I WOULD

02:28 - 08.710 IT'S OUR POSITION THAT EVEN IF

02:28 - 10.190 THE COURT DETERMINES THE RIGHT

02:28 - 11.330 OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT

02:28 - 15.200 IS RESERVED. IS AN RIGHT ON THE

02:28 - 16.890 PENNSYLVANIA CONSTITUTION OF

02:28 - 18.020 THE RIGHT OF REDEMPTION.

02:28 - 19.880 THE EQUITY OF REDEMPTION IS NOT

02:28 - 21.600 NECESSARILY BOUND UP IN THAT

02:28 - 22.830 AND WE COULD ARGUE THAT HAS

02:28 - 26.000 STATUTORILY CREATED. OPTION IS

02:28 - 28.290 NOT BOUND UP IN THE RIGHT OF

02:28 - 29.490 PROPERTY THAT'S MENTIONED IN

02:28 - 31.370 THE CONSTITUTION. IF THE COURT

02:28 - 32.880 WERE TO FIND THAT IT WERE.

02:28 - 34.300 WE BELIEVE

02:28 - 38.170 AND THE HISTORY PROPERTY ALL IN

02:28 - 39.270 PENNSYLVANIA PROPERTY,

02:28 - 40.820 TAXATION, PENNSYLVANIA THE

02:28 - 42.080 TAXES OF THE LIFEBLOOD

02:28 - 44.820 OF GOVERNMENT THERE IS AN

02:28 - 46.670 IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT INTEREST

02:28 - 48.210 HERE THAT THE STATE OF

02:28 - 49.590 THE COLLECTION OF TAXES AND THE

02:28 - 50.920 RETURN OF PROPERTY TO THE

02:28 - 53.660 TAX LOOPHOLES. AND THE FACT

02:28 - 57.150 THE NSA'S NECESSITY TO ENSURE A

02:28 - 58.630 PLAYER AND EFFICIENT TRANSFER

02:28 - 00.330 OF TITLE. HE ACHIEVED THAT

02:29 - 01.970 PURPOSE. THERE IS

02:29 - 04.370 THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL

02:29 - 05.940 RELATIONSHIP THERE REGARDLESS

02:29 - 06.770 OF WHETHER ONE

02:29 - 08.910 SAYS STATUTES HAS THE RIGHT OF

02:29 - 12.150 REDEMPTION AND A VERY ROBUST

02:29 - 13.860 NOTICE REQUIREMENT, NOT ONLY IN

02:29 - 15.800 TERMS OF PERSONAL SERVICE IN

02:29 - 16.270 TERMS

02:29 - 21.660 THE RIGHT TO OR TO TAKE

02:29 - 23.160 EXCEPTION TO A TAX SALE

02:29 - 24.820 ON THE BASIS OF NOTICE WAS NOT

02:29 - 26.600 PROPERLY PROVIDED THE EXPANDED

02:29 - 29.490 PUBLICATION NOTICE AND THE AND

02:29 - 29.830 THE

02:29 - 32.370 INFAMOUS IN NA AX LOT SET SAIL

02:29 - 34.170 ALL JURORS PRUDENCE A SECTION 6

02:29 - 35.060 OF 7 A

02:29 - 37.810 IN WRESTLE SHOW REQUIRES

02:29 - 38.800 EXTENSIVE EFFORTS

02:29 - 43.030 TO IDENTIFY. AND OWNER OF WHICH

02:29 - 44.860 GO FAR BEYOND THOSE REQUIRED IN

02:29 - 47.000 THE OTHER STATUTE. I THINK THAT

02:29 - 48.670 WHETHER WE SEE THAT I FIND MY

02:29 - 49.570 IT.

02:29 - 51.650 >>IF I MIGHT JUST ASK YOU

02:29 - 54.420 ONE FOLLOW-UP WHERE I STAND

02:29 - 55.830 BECAUSE I KNOW MY TIME IS

02:29 - 56.320 LIMITED.

02:29 - 00.930 DO YOU HAVE A POSITION ON

02:30 - 02.200 WHETHER OR NOT

02:30 - 03.890 THE RIGHT

02:30 - 08.440 TO RECLAIM PROPERTY AFTER

02:30 - 10.980 YOU'RE RIGHT PROP. PRETTY RIGHT

02:30 - 12.290 HAS BEEN FORFEITED.

02:30 - 14.670 HAS ANY PROTECTION UNDER

02:30 - 15.250 ARTICLE ONE

02:30 - 17.620 SECTION ONE. YOU'RE ALREADY GOT

02:30 - 20.040 TAXPAYER WHO OWN PROPERTY WORK.

02:30 - 23.000 ITS OWNERSHIP. IT

02:30 - 24.630 IS THAT A RIGHT THAT IS

02:30 - 26.800 PROTECTED OR DOES IS TRULY FALL

02:30 - 28.420 INTO THE CATEGORY.

02:30 - 32.260 A RIGHT THAT HIGH. I NEITHER

02:30 - 34.150 OFTEN MENTAL UP OR

02:30 - 34.980 I IMPORTANT.

02:30 - 39.180 >>YOUR WE OBVIOUSLY AS MUCH AS

02:30 - 40.100 WE LIKE TO ARGUE IN THE

02:30 - 41.980 ALTERNATIVE THAT WOULD BE OR

02:30 - 43.150 OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE

02:30 - 45.170 STATUTE THAT THE RIGHT TO TO

02:30 - 46.790 READ THE MORE RECLAIM PROPERTY

02:30 - 47.520 AFTER IT HAS

02:30 - 49.450 BEEN SOLVED, IS IS NOT A

02:30 - 51.180 RIGHT TO HIS CAUCUS OF ALL OF

02:30 - 52.870 THE STATUTORY CREATED RIGHT HE

02:30 - 53.830 COULD BE REMOVED BY THE

02:30 - 55.610 LEGISLATURE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

02:30 - 58.360 THAT USER THAT IS MORE CENTRAL

02:30 - 58.870 POSITION.

02:30 - 00.150 >>OK THANK YOU.

02:31 - 02.090 >>THANK YOU, THANK YOU MISTER

02:31 - 02.950 HAUSER YEAR.

02:31 - 05.850 WELL SOME IN A PLANE MADE IN

02:31 - 06.190 THAT.

02:31 - 10.060 UK YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

02:31 - 13.060 STRESS THEM SHOW. I ASSUME THE.

02:31 - 14.090 IN

02:31 - 15.810 CLOSING UDACITY.

02:31 - 19.550 DECISION OF THE COMMONWEALTH

02:31 - 21.840 COURT REAFFIRMED THE REGION'S A

02:31 - 24.190 RESET FOR THE JUDGE.

02:31 - 25.710 >>THAT'S CORRECT YOUR HONOR

02:31 - 26.290 THANK YOU.

02:31 - 27.290 >>IT.

02:31 - 34.230 >>WE'RE GOING TO ADVANCE SAID.

02:31 - 38.670 THE NEXT IN FINAL ARGUMENT

02:31 - 39.500 10 MINUTES.

02:31 - 43.740 RIDE TO THEIR.

02:31 - 48.090 ORGANIZATIONS BUSINESS AND

02:31 - 50.040 ASSOCIATIONS THE OPPORTUNITY TO

02:31 - 53.010 TELECAST STATEWIDE FUSION ON

02:31 - 55.770 REACH OUT TO ALL OF

02:31 - 57.020 PENNSYLVANIA, USING OUR

02:31 - 00.390 ONLINE STREAMING. YOU PRODUCE

02:32 - 01.870 THE CONTENT WITH YOUR MESSAGE

02:32 - 05.770 FUSION IS A PARTNERSHIP THAT

02:32 - 08.620 MEET OBJECTIVES THROUGH AN

02:32 - 12.960 GO TO PCN TV DOT COM SLASH

02:32 - 17.170 >>IT CERTAINLY IS IN THE MATTER

02:32 - 18.940 OF GARY AND MARY GREAT

02:32 - 21.450 AMERIPRISE FINANCIAL ARE YOU ON

02:32 - 22.690 BEHALF OF OPPONENTS

02:32 - 25.910 IS THIS AND EVEN THOUGH ARE YOU

02:32 - 28.410 IN BEHALF OF HOW HE IS WITH OUR

02:32 - 28.760 AIR.

02:32 - 31.220 I GET

02:32 - 32.380 AFTERNOON NOT.

02:32 - 34.240 >>THIS CASE INVOLVES A

02:32 - 35.850 PENNSYLVANIA IS UNFAIR TRADE

02:32 - 37.410 PRACTICES AND CONSUMER

02:32 - 38.530 PROTECTION LAW.

02:32 - 40.570 WHICH CAME TO A

02:32 - 42.530 CULTURAL PARADE. THEY'RE

02:32 - 43.700 BURNING EMBERS YOU GOT YOURS

02:32 - 45.670 FROM ENGAGING IN ANY FRAUDULENT

02:32 - 45.770 OR

02:32 - 47.920 DECEPTIVE CONDUCT. WHICH

02:32 - 50.830 CREATES FROM QUICK TO FUSION OR

02:32 - 51.950 A MISUNDERSTANDING.

02:32 - 54.760 INTERPRETING THE CATCHALL FOR

02:32 - 57.030 BEIJING. THE SUPREME COURT

02:32 - 59.640 CLEARLY ESTABLISHING DECEPTIVE

02:32 - 01.630 CONDUCT. HE'S NOT REQUIRE PROOF

02:33 - 02.530 OF INTENT.

02:33 - 05.240 AND THEREFORE IT'S TRUE BLACK

02:33 - 07.290 BILITY STANDARD GOVERNS CLAIMS

02:33 - 10.250 BROUGHT ME AS SUCH. THE COURTS

02:33 - 12.460 ASKED TO DO THAT TERMINATION.

02:33 - 17.340 YES, THANK YOU

02:33 - 18.000 YOUR HONOR.

02:33 - 20.190 >>I MEAN PLEASE RECORD YOUR

02:33 - 21.850 HONOR INDICATED WE ARE HERE ON

02:33 - 23.960 A VERY NARROW SINGLE ISSUE.

02:33 - 27.370 IN 1996 THE LEGISLATURE AMENDED

02:33 - 28.770 THE CATCH-ALL PROVISION.

02:33 - 30.880 I'M TO CHANGE IT FROM

02:33 - 32.620 PROHIBITING IN GAUGING IN ANY

02:33 - 34.350 FRAUDULENT CONDUCT WHICH

02:33 - 36.770 CREATES A LIKELIHOOD. CONFUSION

02:33 - 39.360 OR MISUNDERSTANDING, CHANGED IT

02:33 - 40.080 TO READ

02:33 - 42.240 TO PROHIBIT ENGAGING IN ANY

02:33 - 44.700 FRAUDULENT OR DECEPTIVE CONDUCT

02:33 - 46.710 WHICH CREATES A LIKELIHOOD OF

02:33 - 48.810 CONFUSION OR MISUNDERSTANDING.

02:33 - 52.460 NOTABLY IN CRITICALLY. THEY DID

02:33 - 56.070 NOT AMENDED TO NEARLY TAKE OUT

02:33 - 58.030 THE WORD FRAUDULENT IN WHICH

02:33 - 59.110 CASE THAT WE'RE AN

02:33 - 01.540 TO PROHIBIT ENGAGING IN ANY

02:34 - 03.060 CONDUCT WHICH CREATES A

02:34 - 05.230 LIKELIHOOD. CONFUSION OR

02:34 - 07.510 MISUNDERSTANDING. NONETHELESS

02:34 - 08.690 THE SUPERIOR COURT

02:34 - 11.400 READS THE WORDS FRAUDULENT OR

02:34 - 13.990 DECEPTIVE CONDUCT THE

02:34 - 16.450 CATCH-ALL PROVISION, DECEPTIVE

02:34 - 18.440 CONDUCT DOES NOT MEAN ACTING

02:34 - 20.140 WITH THE UTMOST CARE AS A

02:34 - 20.600 SUPERIOR

02:34 - 22.630 COURT INDICATED, AND WE KNOW

02:34 - 24.390 THIS BECAUSE OF THE PLAIN

02:34 - 25.290 MEANING OF DECEPTIVE

02:34 - 28.070 CONDUCT WHICH VARIOUS

02:34 - 30.210 DICTIONARIES USE IN A NAME SUCH

02:34 - 32.630 AS BAMBOOZLED DO HOAX

02:34 - 35.670 THE CROSLEY CHEAT IN SMEAR

02:34 - 39.040 AND BELIEVED. WE ALSO KNOW NOW

02:34 - 40.300 IT BECAUSE

02:34 - 42.040 OF THE LEGISLATIVE HISTORY

02:34 - 44.180 GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL

02:34 - 46.290 ENACTMENT IN 1968.

02:34 - 48.800 THE UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICES ACT

02:34 - 49.750 IN PENNSYLVANIA.

02:34 - 51.620 AND COMING FORWARD TO THE

02:34 - 54.130 AMENDMENT ITSELF. THE 1996.

02:34 - 56.630 IN 1986,

02:34 - 59.230 BEING I'M TO TRADE PRACTICES

02:34 - 00.340 ACT WAS

02:35 - 02.940 MODELED WITH CHANTS SIGNIFICANT

02:35 - 05.700 CHANGES OPT OUT A MODEL ACT.

02:35 - 08.040 BUT SIGNIFICANTLY THAT MODEL

02:35 - 10.070 ACT HAD IN IT. A

02:35 - 12.480 CATCH-ALL PROVISION WHICH BOTH

02:35 - 13.910 THEN AND NOW

02:35 - 17.080 THE LEGISLATURE CHOSE NOT TO

02:35 - 17.720 INCLUDE IN

02:35 - 20.020 PENNSYLVANIA ACT. IT'S EPIC

02:35 - 21.700 REACT CATCH-ALL PROVISION

02:35 - 24.720 THAT COVERED IN GAUGING IN ANY

02:35 - 26.730 CONDUCT WHICH CREATES A

02:35 - 28.320 LIKELIHOOD OF CONFUSION OR

02:35 - 29.800 MISUNDERSTANDING. THE

02:35 - 31.570 LEGISLATURE REJECTED THAT WHEN

02:35 - 32.890 THEY INITIALLY AN ACTIVE THE

02:35 - 34.400 ACT IN 1968.

02:35 - 36.650 THEY REJECTED IT AGAIN WHEN IT

02:35 - 39.320 WAS PROPOSED. I AS A POSSIBLE

02:35 - 41.930 AMENDMENT IN 1976, WHEN THEY

02:35 - 43.130 ADDED THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF

02:35 - 45.300 ACTION AND AT THAT TIME THEY

02:35 - 46.200 SIGNIFICANTLY

02:35 - 49.080 POINTED OUT THE PURPOSE OF THE

02:35 - 50.340 ACT WAS TO PREVENT

02:35 - 53.240 UNSCRUPULOUS PRACTICES AND NOT

02:35 - 54.500 TO HARM HONEST AND

02:35 - 57.420 ETHICAL BUSINESSMAN AND THEN IN

02:35 - 00.200 1996 WHEN THEY AMENDED THE

02:36 - 02.730 CATCH-ALL PROVISION TO ADD OR

02:36 - 05.580 DECEPTIVE CONDUCT. WELL AS PORT

02:36 - 07.330 OF AMENDMENTS THAT WERE GEARED

02:36 - 08.990 TOWARD ELIMINATING

02:36 - 10.940 TELEMARKETING FRAUD AND SCAMS

02:36 - 13.700 ON THE ELDERLY. THEY.

02:36 - 20.580 DID NOT DISCUSS IN ANY WAY THE

02:36 - 23.050 IMPOSITION OF STRICT LIABILITY

02:36 - 24.340 AS BEING THE PURPOSE.

02:36 - 26.950 THEY DID NOT SAY THAT THEY WERE

02:36 - 28.300 TRYING TO COVER INNOCENT

02:36 - 31.820 CONDUCT. WHATSOEVER INSTEAD,

02:36 - 33.860 ALL OF THE LEGISLATIVE HISTORY

02:36 - 35.080 IN THE COMMENTS WHICH ARE IN

02:36 - 37.270 OUR BRAINS RELATED ONCE AGAIN

02:36 - 38.650 TO UNSCRUPULOUS TO HAVE

02:36 - 41.030 BEHAVIOR. PERPETRATORS THAT

02:36 - 43.530 ACTED LIKE COCKROACHES DEMS

02:36 - 46.350 ET CETERA. I WORRY ABOUT THANK

02:36 - 49.650 >>WE'LL SEE AND NOW THE U.S. IS

02:36 - 51.010 MONEY AS A NEW QUESTION YOU'RE

02:36 - 51.490 HERE.

02:36 - 55.120 >>I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS

02:36 - 57.370 TIME. THANK YOU FOR.

02:37 - 01.680 SHOULD I THINK IT

02:37 - 02.830 WAS IN THE BRIEFING IN THIS

02:37 - 04.360 CASE THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION

02:37 - 06.080 THAT THIS COMES FROM THE

02:37 - 08.580 FEDERAL TRADE. THE MISSION.

02:37 - 09.580 AP.

02:37 - 13.230 >>THAT PENNSYLVANIA ADOPTED

02:37 - 15.140 THAT AND THEN UNDER THE FEDERAL

02:37 - 17.250 TRADE COMMISSION ACT IN THE IS

02:37 - 18.760 INCREDIBLE AS IT MAY SEEM.

02:37 - 21.220 DECEPTION CAN OCCUR WITHOUT AN

02:37 - 21.460 END.

02:37 - 24.640 >>YOUR HONOR I'M WRONG GUY.

02:37 - 27.670 I'M SORRY. IT'S HARD TO TELL

02:37 - 27.910 WITH THE

02:37 - 30.450 LAG TIME, I'M YOUR HONOR TO BE

02:37 - 30.690 ON

02:37 - 34.160 PENNSYLVANIA AD ACT IS NOT THE

02:37 - 35.840 SAME AS THE FEDERAL TRADE.

02:37 - 38.910 I IN MANY MANY WAYS ALL VERY

02:37 - 40.840 SIGNIFICANT WAYS TO THE ISSUE

02:37 - 42.210 WILL HEAR ABOUT TODAY.

02:37 - 45.350 THE PRESIDENT

02:37 - 46.870 ALL THE UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICES

02:37 - 48.600 ACT IN PENNSYLVANIA ON LIKE THE

02:37 - 50.260 AX AND MANY OTHER STATES

02:37 - 52.190 DOES NOT REFERENCE OR

02:37 - 54.350 INCORPORATE THAT AFTER THE

02:37 - 57.350 SIERRA WHICH MANY MANY OTHER

02:37 - 59.980 STATES DO. THE

02:37 - 02.430 ONLY SIMILARITY WHATSOEVER

02:38 - 05.220 BETWEEN BE AFTER THE CIA AND

02:38 - 07.540 THE PENNSYLVANIA ACT IS MADE

02:38 - 09.410 BOTH INCLUDE THIS

02:38 - 11.680 GENERAL LANGUAGE AND THEY'RE

02:38 - 13.300 PREVENTING THE USE OF QUOTE

02:38 - 15.400 UNFAIR METHODS OF COMPETITION

02:38 - 17.350 AND UNFAIR OR DECEPTIVE ACTS.

02:38 - 19.800 HOWEVER SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE

02:38 - 21.450 PENNSYLVANIA ACT UNLIKE THE

02:38 - 25.190 FTC, A THE LEGISLATURE GOES ON

02:38 - 27.330 AND IT SPECIFICALLY DEFINES

02:38 - 30.800 20 SPECIFIC ACTS THAT ARE

02:38 - 33.450 UNFAIR OR DECEPTIVE ACTS.

02:38 - 35.450 THE FTC ATTORNEY DOES NOT THE

02:38 - 37.610 FTC AGES CONTAINS THAT GENERAL

02:38 - 39.930 LANGUAGE AND ALSO

02:38 - 41.680 THE FTC A AND AS

02:38 - 44.500 YOU KNOW IS A PUBLIC IN FORSMAN

02:38 - 46.290 ACTION ONLY DOES NOT PROVIDE

02:38 - 47.940 FOR ANY PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION

02:38 - 50.380 WHEREAS OF COURSE SINCE 1976.

02:38 - 52.560 OUR APP DOES.

02:38 - 55.150 I THINK IT'S ALSO VERY

02:38 - 57.290 SIGNIFICANT WHEN LOOKING AT THE

02:38 - 58.160 FT C

02:38 - 01.040 A A NOW THAT THE FEDERAL CASE

02:39 - 02.110 LAW THAT I BELIEVE

02:39 - 05.860 ON THAT APPLE LEAVES RELY UPON

02:39 - 07.880 INTERPRETING THE FTC A WITH

02:39 - 09.620 BOTH LANGUAGE IN YOUR HONOR

02:39 - 11.800 REFERENCE IS CASE LAW LOOKING

02:39 - 13.670 AT THE FALSE ADVERTISING

02:39 - 16.690 PROVISION OF THE FT C A WHICH

02:39 - 18.610 IS A VERY SPECIFIC PROVISION

02:39 - 20.990 AND THAT PROVISION DOES NOT

02:39 - 22.790 REFERENCE DECEPTIVE CONDUCT.

02:39 - 25.380 AT ALL. WHY CAN'T PROHIBIT IS

02:39 - 28.410 MISLEADING CONDUCT. SO WHEN THE

02:39 - 30.450 FEDERAL COURTS ARE LOOKING AT.

02:39 - 31.270 INCH ARE

02:39 - 34.000 PUTTING BE FALSE ADVERTISING

02:39 - 36.950 PROVISION OF THE FT C A WHICH

02:39 - 38.840 REFERS ONLY TO.

02:39 - 41.710 ADVERTISER PROHIBITS

02:39 - 43.630 ADVERTISING THAT'S MISLEADING

02:39 - 45.280 AND GOES ON AND TALKS ABOUT

02:39 - 48.080 WHAT MISLEADING IS IN A VERY

02:39 - 50.730 BROAD WAY. IT'S NOT SURPRISING

02:39 - 52.570 THAT THOSE FEDERAL WHO WORKS

02:39 - 53.350 WITH DAN.

02:39 - 55.860 COME UP WITH THE STATEMENTS

02:39 - 57.260 YOUR HONOR THAT THAT YOU

02:39 - 58.840 INDICATED WOULD BE SOMEWHAT

02:39 - 59.650 SURPRISING

02:39 - 02.120 IF APPLIED. MORE BROADLY TO

02:40 - 03.440 SOMETHING LIKE A CATCH-ALL

02:40 - 05.040 CLAUSE WITH DECEPTIVE CONDUCT.

02:40 - 06.250 AND WE ARE JUST

02:40 - 08.420 POINT OUT HOW REAL QUICK ENOUGH

02:40 - 09.650 I MAY I JUST POINT OUT THAT THE

02:40 - 11.090 FTC, A DOES NOT HAVE A

02:40 - 12.810 CATCH-ALL CLAUSE THOUGH IT

02:40 - 14.190 DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE CATCH-ALL

02:40 - 15.760 CLAUSE THAT WE'RE HEAR ABOUT

02:40 - 18.220 TODAY. VERY FINANCIAL. THANK

02:40 - 19.740 YOU CHIEF. THANK YOU.

02:40 - 21.250 >>THAT'S HIS TIME.

02:40 - 24.590 >>THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE MISS

02:40 - 25.360 CONDO.

02:40 - 28.150 DECEPTIVE CONDUCT

02:40 - 31.410 IS REAL FUNDAMENTALLY THE SAME

02:40 - 33.790 AS FRAUDULENT ON DART IN SO

02:40 - 36.650 FAR AS THEY BOTH ARE WHY ARE

02:40 - 39.500 SOME. IT TURNED OUT. WOULD HAVE

02:40 - 41.080 BEEN A PURPOSE OF THAT MEETING

02:40 - 42.740 SEPTA TO

02:40 - 43.610 THE DEFINITIONS.

02:40 - 46.320 >>IN YOUR HONOR I I THINK THAT

02:40 - 48.650 THE 3RD CIRCUIT COURT

02:40 - 50.850 IN BELMONT ADDRESS THIS ISSUE

02:40 - 52.060 AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT

02:40 - 53.890 IT'S NOT PRECEDENT BUT I THINK

02:40 - 55.490 IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE.

02:40 - 56.810 FIRST OF ALL IT'S IMPORTANT

02:40 - 59.750 BECAUSE ONE OF THE 3. I

02:40 - 02.160 JUSTICES ON THAT PANEL WAS

02:41 - 04.180 FORMER SENATOR FISCHER WHO

02:41 - 05.610 HAPPEN TO HAVE BEEN THE SPONSOR

02:41 - 07.100 OF THE AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE

02:41 - 07.280 HEAR

02:41 - 09.690 ABOUT TODAY. THE SECOND IN

02:41 - 11.660 BELMONT NOTED WHEN WHEN

02:41 - 12.980 ANSWERING THAT VERY QUESTION

02:41 - 14.210 YOUR HONOR'S RAISING.

02:41 - 16.800 THEY HAD DECEPTIVE CONDUCT

02:41 - 18.880 DOESN'T REQUIRE PROOF OF THE

02:41 - 19.880 ELEMENTS OF COMMON

02:41 - 22.830 LAW FRAUD. BUT KNOWLEDGE OF THE

02:41 - 24.650 FALSITY OF ONE STATEMENTS

02:41 - 26.790 OR THE MISLEADING QUALITY OF

02:41 - 29.060 ONE'S CONDUCT IS STILL REQUIRED

02:41 - 31.220 AND I THINK THAT IF IF YOU

02:41 - 34.410 THINK ABOUT KIND ACT THAT IS

02:41 - 36.480 FRAUDULENT. IT'S A LIE.

02:41 - 39.510 WHY YOU

02:41 - 41.420 CAN HAVE CONDUCT THAT'S

02:41 - 43.390 INTENDED TO SEEM THAT MAY NOT

02:41 - 46.360 TECHNICALLY BE RAJOY NOR BE

02:41 - 47.720 ALIGNED IF YOU LOOK AT THE

02:41 - 50.560 LEGISLATIVE HISTORY. GETS IN.

02:41 - 53.010 MY BRIEF WITH RESPECT TO THIS

02:41 - 54.780 AMENDMENT. AGAIN BE

02:41 - 57.840 THE PRINCIPAL. WHAT IRAN MAY BE

02:41 - 59.650 THAT THEY ARE LEGISLATURE WAS

02:41 - 01.790 LOOKING TO PROVIDING THOSE

02:42 - 02.880 AMENDMENTS WAS AGAINST

02:42 - 05.590 THE TELEMARKETING FRAUD AND

02:42 - 07.350 SCAMS ON THE ELDERLY

02:42 - 09.460 AND THEY TALK ABOUT HOW THERE

02:42 - 11.670 CAN BE THINGS THAT ARE STATED.

02:42 - 13.470 I THAT ARE NOT.

02:42 - 16.530 WHEN SOMETHING JUST CAME UP ON

02:42 - 17.800 MY SCREEN BUT HOPEFULLY IT'S

02:42 - 19.350 NOT IMPACTING THE REST OF YOU,

02:42 - 20.780 I'M THAT ARE

02:42 - 24.640 TECHNICALLY LIES. NO THEY

02:42 - 25.580 WOULDN'T TECHNICALLY BE

02:42 - 28.770 FRAUDULENT BY. THEY ARE I'M

02:42 - 31.400 WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OR INTENT

02:42 - 31.790 THAT

02:42 - 35.140 THEY COULD MISLEAD THE COURT.

02:42 - 37.680 THE CONSUMER AT ISSUE AND SO I

02:42 - 39.470 THINK THAT IS THE DISTINCTION

02:42 - 40.160 AND

02:42 - 42.650 THAT IS WHY THE LEGISLATURE WAS

02:42 - 45.130 LOOKING TO ENLARGE IF YOU WILL

02:42 - 46.660 THAT THE LANGUAGE HERE TO

02:42 - 48.650 INCLUDE DECEPTIVE CONDUCT.

02:42 - 53.040 >>THANK YOUR ADJUSTED, I E U.

02:42 - 57.210 >>I DO WHEN WHEN

02:42 - 00.050 THE EYE I'M JERRY IN THIS CASE

02:43 - 02.490 I RETURNED THE VERDICT FOR YOUR

02:43 - 05.030 CLIENTS AND BOTH PRIDE AND I

02:43 - 06.850 NEGLIGENT MISREPRESENTATION.

02:43 - 09.190 >>YOU READ THAT YOU THAT THAT

02:43 - 12.520 WAS RAISED TO HAS TO BE HIGH

02:43 - 14.180 CLAIMS UNDER THE STATUTE.

02:43 - 16.470 ON WAS IT THE

02:43 - 18.740 NO FRIED FINDING MORE WAYS IT

02:43 - 20.340 BE KNOWN NEGLIGENT THIS

02:43 - 22.460 REPRESENT CASE IN FINDING THAT

02:43 - 22.820 YOU'RE

02:43 - 23.390 LYING LINE.

02:43 - 25.540 >>I'M RELYING YOU'RE ON THE NO

02:43 - 27.260 NEGLIGENT MISREPRESENTATION AND

02:43 - 28.020 THE REASON FOR

02:43 - 31.460 THAT IS THE OB BURDEN OF PROOF

02:43 - 33.800 UNDER WHICH THE JURY FOUND

02:43 - 35.760 THEY'RE NOT TO BE FRAUD WAS

02:43 - 37.320 CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE

02:43 - 39.200 BECAUSE IT WAS A COMMON LAW

02:43 - 40.560 FRAUD CLAIM THEY WERE LOOKING

02:43 - 43.440 AT AND THE

02:43 - 45.900 BURDEN HERE AND UNFAIR TRADE

02:43 - 48.000 PRACTICES ACT OR FRAUDULENT

02:43 - 49.540 CONDUCT WOULD BE PREPONDERANCE

02:43 - 49.650 OF

02:43 - 52.030 THE EVIDENCE. IT'S MY POSITION

02:43 - 53.330 HOWEVER THAT WHEN THE JURY

02:43 - 55.190 FOUND THAT THERE WASN'T EVEN A

02:43 - 56.980 NEGLIGENT MISREPRESENTATION

02:43 - 58.330 BY PREPONDERANCE OF THE

02:43 - 59.810 EVIDENCE WHICH WAS THE STANDARD

02:43 - 02.270 THAT THEY APPLIED TO THAT THAT

02:44 - 02.620 BAD.

02:44 - 06.120 RICK LOSE TO RAISE JAKARTA ANY

02:44 - 07.750 POSSIBILITY THAT THERE COULD

02:44 - 09.500 HAVE BEEN DECEPTIVE CONDUCT

02:44 - 11.350 BECAUSE AND I'M IN A MOM,

02:44 - 13.630 DECEPTIVE CONDUCT. IT'S GOING

02:44 - 15.690 TO REQUIRE NEGLIGENCE AT A

02:44 - 18.370 MINIMUM AND GOING BACK TO A

02:44 - 20.130 QUESTION THAT JUSTICE POD

02:44 - 21.780 RAISED ABOUT WHAT

02:44 - 23.560 WHAT WHERE THEY TRUE WHAT WAS

02:44 - 25.180 THE LEGISLATURE TRYING TO DO

02:44 - 27.700 WITH IT I ENDED DECEPTIVE

02:44 - 30.240 CONDUCT. HAS OF COURSE PROBABLY

02:44 - 31.330 WHERE FROM THE BRIEFING THERE

02:44 - 32.920 HAVE BEEN SOME FEDERAL COURTS

02:44 - 33.720 THAT HAVE SAID

02:44 - 36.060 THAT MAYBE THEY WERE TRYING TO

02:44 - 37.700 LESSEN THE STANDARD DOWN TO AT

02:44 - 39.790 LEAST NEGLIGENCE BUT WE KNOW

02:44 - 40.260 THAT.

02:44 - 42.350 AND THE BELMONT COURT SAID YOU

02:44 - 43.390 NEED KNOWLEDGE.

02:44 - 45.550 THERE BEEN COUPLE OTHER FEDERAL

02:44 - 47.110 COURTS THAT HAVE LOOKED AT THIS

02:44 - 48.160 AMENDMENT AND SAID

02:44 - 51.060 YOU NEED AT LEAST NEGLIGENCE SO

02:44 - 52.130 IF YOU HAVEN'T MADE A

02:44 - 55.190 NEGLIGENT MISREPRESENTATION YOU

02:44 - 57.130 MOST CERTAINLY WOULD NOT HAVE

02:44 - 58.930 ENGAGED IN DECEPTIVE CONDUCT.

02:45 - 03.130 SO THE WENT 28 YOUR POSITION ON

02:45 - 04.900 THE APPROPRIATE REQUIRE.

02:45 - 08.830 >>SO MY SORT OF FOR LACK OF A

02:45 - 10.360 BETTER WORD ACADEMICALLY

02:45 - 12.400 IS THE POSITION OF THE BEAUMONT

02:45 - 14.560 COURT WHICH IS THAT

02:45 - 17.060 YOU NEED. YOU NEED SOME

02:45 - 19.030 KNOWLEDGE THAT WHAT YOU ARE

02:45 - 20.050 REPRESENTING.

02:45 - 25.340 YOU'RE DOING IT IN ORDER TO

02:45 - 28.360 DECEIVE SOMEBODY. YOU'RE WHEN

02:45 - 29.720 YOU'RE SAYING SAID IT

02:45 - 31.860 INTENTIONAL CONDUCT. GET YOUR

02:45 - 33.810 POSITION. YES, THAT IS MY

02:45 - 36.160 POSITION, HOWEVER AND A HALF.

02:45 - 38.510 I DON'T NEED TO GO THAT FAR I

02:45 - 40.500 AND I JUST DID

02:45 - 42.250 INSPECT QUESTION. HOW DID

02:45 - 45.330 EDITION OF THIS RACE, DECEPTIVE

02:45 - 46.160 CLOCK BACK.

02:45 - 49.110 >>AND DANCE. THE CAUSE

02:45 - 51.740 OF CONSUMERS. IF YOU'RE IN BOTH

02:45 - 53.980 THE PREEXISTING FRIDAY LINK

02:45 - 55.520 LINED UP AND NOW THE NEW

02:45 - 58.500 DECEPTIVE KIND I REQUIRES AN

02:45 - 00.050 INTENT TO DECEIVE.

02:46 - 04.140 >>BECAUSE AGAIN YOU

02:46 - 06.380 CAN INTENDED TO SAVE SOMEBODY

02:46 - 08.430 YOU THINK OF TELEMARKETERS

02:46 - 09.740 WHICH AGAIN WITH WAS WHAT

02:46 - 11.410 THE LEGISLATURE WAS TALKING

02:46 - 13.190 ABOUT YOU CAN CALL A PERSON.

02:46 - 14.990 YOU CAN INTENDED TO SEE THEM

02:46 - 17.030 WITHOUT LINE TO THEM. SO YOU

02:46 - 18.230 CAN INTEND TO

02:46 - 20.520 MISLEAD THEM AND TO SEE THEM

02:46 - 21.990 THROUGH THE THE THINGS THAT

02:46 - 23.780 YOU'RE TELLING THEM IN ORDER TO

02:46 - 25.380 GET THEM TO PURCHASE WHAT YOU

02:46 - 27.170 WANT THEM TO PUNCHES. IT'S

02:46 - 28.640 TECHNICALLY NOT A LIE.

02:46 - 31.160 AND TECHNICALLY I PROBABLY

02:46 - 32.800 WOULD NOT MEET THE ELEMENT OF

02:46 - 36.200 FRAUDULENT CONDUCT. BUT IT'S

02:46 - 38.530 IT'S THE SEPT OF CONDUCT

02:46 - 40.110 AND SOMETHING LEGISLATURE

02:46 - 41.400 WANTED TO MAKE SURE

02:46 - 43.220 PARTICULARLY AS IT WAS THINKING

02:46 - 45.000 ABOUT THE TELEMARKETING SCAMS A

02:46 - 46.980 MONTH CALLS TO THE ELDERLY AND

02:46 - 47.480 IF YOU LOOK

02:46 - 50.500 AT HER. THE TELEMARKETING I'M

02:46 - 52.090 PROVISIONS THAT THE LEGISLATURE

02:46 - 53.290 PUT IN AT THE SAME TIME THEY

02:46 - 55.070 MADE THIS AMENDMENT THEY PUT

02:46 - 57.470 AFFIRMATIVE DUTIES, I'M CERTAIN

02:46 - 59.480 LIMITED DUTIES ON TELEMARKETERS

02:46 - 01.090 TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THEY

02:47 - 03.200 WERE. WHAT THEY WERE

02:47 - 06.070 TELLING PEOPLE I DIDN'T HAVE

02:47 - 06.880 THE ABILITY TO

02:47 - 08.780 DECEIVE THEM AND THAT MAY NOT

02:47 - 10.410 HAVE BEEN FRAUDULENT CONDUCT

02:47 - 11.350 THAT CERTAINLY WOULD BE

02:47 - 12.950 DECEPTIVE CONDUCT AND WOULD BE

02:47 - 15.300 DONE WITH THE INTENT TO MISLEAD

02:47 - 16.390 OR DECEIVE THE PERSON THEY'RE

02:47 - 17.250 TALKING TO.

02:47 - 19.340 >>SO THE LEGISLATURE TOOK CARE

02:47 - 20.270 OF THEIR PROBLEM WITH

02:47 - 21.950 TELEMARKETERS BY IN

02:47 - 25.090 FACT I ADDING PROVISIONS THAT'S

02:47 - 26.660 DEALT SPECIFICALLY WITH

02:47 - 29.310 THAT PROBLEM. MAYBE A

02:47 - 31.360 PHRASE DECEPTIVE CONDUCT

02:47 - 33.070 THEREFORE DOES NOT ADDRESS THAT

02:47 - 34.680 PROBLEM, THE STATUTE ITSELF

02:47 - 36.510 WEIGHS AMENDED TO ADDRESS THAT

02:47 - 38.650 PROBLEM. THAT'S CORRECT

02:47 - 39.140 YOUR HONOR.

02:47 - 41.280 >>AND THE ONLY ADDITIONAL POINT

02:47 - 43.510 I WOULD WANT TO MAKE IS THAT

02:47 - 45.130 EVEN THOUGH I THINK

02:47 - 47.340 ACADEMICALLY AS AS THE BELMONT

02:47 - 50.340 COURT DEAD. THERE THERE IS

02:47 - 52.600 SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR IN YOUR

02:47 - 54.020 HONOR'S WORDS MENS REA ARE

02:47 - 55.650 INTENT OR KNOWLEDGE WITH

02:47 - 56.280 RESPECT.

02:47 - 57.970 >>DECEPTIVE CONDUCT.

02:47 - 01.240 AT A MINIMUM IT HAS TO BE WRONG

02:48 - 03.170 FOR IT CAN'T BE INNOCENT OR

02:48 - 04.770 STRICT LIABILITY SO

02:48 - 07.840 EVEN IF IT'S ONLY NEGLIGENCE

02:48 - 09.970 AND WRONGFUL CONDUCT IT HAS TO

02:48 - 11.870 AT A MINIMUM BE BACK BECAUSE

02:48 - 12.910 OTHERWISE YOU HAVE STRICT

02:48 - 15.190 LIABILITY AND THE LEGISLATURE

02:48 - 17.550 HAS SHOWN US OVER THE YEARS

02:48 - 19.060 THAT WHERE IT WANTS TO CREATE

02:48 - 21.160 STRICT LIABILITY. IT KNOWS HOW

02:48 - 22.950 TO DO THAT AND I BUT IN MY

02:48 - 24.020 BRIEF A CHART

02:48 - 25.560 OF THE NUMEROUS STRICT

02:48 - 27.190 LIABILITY STATUTES THAT THE

02:48 - 28.700 LEGISLATURE OVER THE YEARS HAS

02:48 - 30.660 ENACTED AND THEY MAKE THEIR

02:48 - 32.380 EAST THEY USE VERY SPECIFIC

02:48 - 34.070 LANGUAGE WHEN THEY DO THAT.

02:48 - 36.940 SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THAT THIS

02:48 - 39.940 IS A FAULT FREE STATUE. YOU

02:48 - 42.200 KNOW THEY NOT ONLY I DIDN'T

02:48 - 44.160 DO THAT THEY DID THE EXACT

02:48 - 45.960 OPPOSITE IN CENTER JUST TAKING

02:48 - 46.960 OUT FRAUDULENT.

02:48 - 49.720 AND AND HAVING A CATCH-ALL

02:48 - 51.240 CLAUSE CONSISTENT WITH

02:48 - 53.430 WHAT THEY HAD REJECTED TWICE

02:48 - 55.190 BEFORE WHICH ONLY WOULD HAVE

02:48 - 57.960 SAID. THAT YOU'RE PROHIBITED

02:48 - 00.020 FROM ENGAGING IN CONDUCT WHICH

02:49 - 02.860 HAS THAT POTENTIAL TO CREATE

02:49 - 03.450 CONFUSION

02:49 - 05.780 OR MISUNDERSTANDING. THEY THEY

02:49 - 07.020 DIDN'T DO THAT THEY DID THE

02:49 - 08.220 EXACT OPPOSITE

02:49 - 10.500 SO WE WE KNOW FROM THAT THAT IT

02:49 - 12.300 CANNOT BE IN THE SAME CONDUCT

02:49 - 13.940 THAT CANNOT BE STRICT LIABILITY

02:49 - 15.650 AT A MINIMUM IT NEEDS TO BE

02:49 - 17.500 NEGLIGENCE. I THINK THAT COULD

02:49 - 19.240 DAMAGE THE LEE. THERE'S STILL

02:49 - 21.560 SOME NEED FOR MEN'S I MEAN FROM

02:49 - 23.340 MY POSITION TO PREVAIL,

02:49 - 25.940 FRANKLY IT IS LONG AS IT'S NOT

02:49 - 27.760 IN HIS AND IT'S NOT STRICT

02:49 - 30.260 LIABILITY. THAT'S

02:49 - 32.260 YOU KNOW THAT'S ALL I NEED SO

02:49 - 33.720 TO SPEAK, I'M JUST GIVING YOU

02:49 - 36.870 MY ACADEMIC ANSWER. WHEN I SAY

02:49 - 38.370 THAT I I BELIEVE

02:49 - 40.700 THAT UNDER BELMONT'S RATION

02:49 - 42.040 THIS

02:49 - 43.300 CONDO YES.

02:49 - 45.380 >>ANY REPETITIVE AND WE'D LIKE

02:49 - 46.420 TO GET SOME OF THE QUESTION

02:49 - 48.450 YOU'RE SURE START WHO WE

02:49 - 49.750 CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT

02:49 - 51.080 THAT YOU MADE A BULLY

02:49 - 54.110 MULTIPLE TIMES. I GUESS IT GOT

02:49 - 54.400 PRETTY.

02:49 - 57.800 NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU RYAN.

02:49 - 59.010 DOES THIS WORK.

02:49 - 00.670 >>THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE

02:50 - 02.630 COUNCIL, I LOVE A COUPLE OF

02:50 - 04.670 QUESTIONS. YOU KEEP TALKING

02:50 - 05.870 ABOUT INNOCENT CONDUCT.

02:50 - 07.100 WHAT WAS IT ABOUT MR.

02:50 - 08.630 KOVALCHUK'S CONDUCT WAS SO

02:50 - 09.020 INNOCENT.

02:50 - 12.650 >>WELL THE JURY FOUND HE DIDN'T

02:50 - 13.420 MAKE A NEGLIGENT

02:50 - 15.330 MISREPRESENTATION AND THEY

02:50 - 16.020 FOUND THAT OUT BY A

02:50 - 16.790 PREPONDERANCE OF

02:50 - 17.590 THE EVIDENCE.

02:50 - 19.840 >>BUT ARMO OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T

02:50 - 20.570 FIND OUT

02:50 - 23.230 IN THE FACT-FINDING ON THESE

02:50 - 25.280 STATUTORY CLAIM WAS CONFIDE AND

02:50 - 25.870 WAS IT NOT.

02:50 - 29.570 >>YES,

02:50 - 32.610 EXCEPT THAT. UNDER MY POSITION

02:50 - 34.110 THERE WAS RAISED TO TO CONNER

02:50 - 37.260 AND THEREFORE I HE WASN'T ABLE

02:50 - 39.140 TO RELITIGATE THE QUESTION OF

02:50 - 39.610 WHETHER

02:50 - 43.020 I'M MISTER WALCZAK HAD ENGAGED

02:50 - 44.050 IN A NEGLIGENT

02:50 - 46.130 MISREPRESENTATION RIZWAN TRIAL

02:50 - 48.060 RIGHT THE JURY AND JUDGE HEARD

02:50 - 49.210 THE SAME CASE RIGHT.

02:50 - 50.900 >>THAT'S RIGHT YOUR HONOR YOU

02:50 - 53.510 GET I GET RACE TO AQABA WHEN

02:50 - 54.390 YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT FACT

02:50 - 55.890 FINDER SAME CASE.

02:50 - 58.120 ARE YOU ARGUING I GUESS ONE

02:50 - 59.570 ARGUMENT CONSISTENT BURN IT'S

02:50 - 00.800 BUT THERE'S NO RACE TO DEPART.

02:51 - 03.260 >>NOW I I BELIEVE THERE

02:51 - 04.380 IS RAISED YOU TO CON I KNOW

02:51 - 06.220 THAT WASN'T BECAUSE THE ISSUE

02:51 - 07.300 WHY NOT JUST ON

02:51 - 11.030 THE QUESTION OF THAT THOSE

02:51 - 12.730 STATUTORY INTERPRETATION.

02:51 - 15.160 AND SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT IN

02:51 - 16.440 YOUR BRIEF BY IT.

02:51 - 19.230 IT WAS BRIEF BELOW AND I

02:51 - 20.430 BELIEVE THAT RACE TO THE COURT

02:51 - 22.160 APPLIES HERE BECAUSE ONCE.

02:51 - 24.680 THE PLAINTIFF HAD A FULL AND

02:51 - 26.450 FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO LITIGATE

02:51 - 27.970 YOU KNOW THE ISSUES IN FRONT OF

02:51 - 30.200 A JURY AND THE JURY MADE

02:51 - 31.400 A DETERMINATION.

02:51 - 34.220 AND JUDGE MARMOL CAN THEN MAKE

02:51 - 36.410 A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION OR A

02:51 - 39.700 DIFFERENT RULING WASN'T THAT

02:51 - 40.930 WASN'T WHAT HAPPENED DOWN BELOW

02:51 - 42.450 RIGHT THE CASE WENT TO HIM.

02:51 - 44.770 >>ON A STATUTORY WELL IN IN

02:51 - 44.950 THEM.

02:51 - 47.750 IT DID GO TO HIM ON A STATUTORY

02:51 - 48.920 RULING WITH NO ADDITIONAL

02:51 - 51.320 EVIDENCE NOBEL HE WAS DECIDING

02:51 - 52.510 IT ON THE EVIDENCE.

02:51 - 55.360 >>AND THE OTHER LET ME

02:51 - 56.380 INTERRUPT A AND B A

02:51 - 58.510 I'M TAKING ON A FROLIC IN

02:51 - 00.090 DETOUR BUT YOUR USE OF THE TERM

02:52 - 00.490 RACE YOU TO

02:52 - 02.990 CALL IT I NOT ON BOARD WITH

02:52 - 04.190 THAT HERE. BUT LET ME LET ME

02:52 - 05.610 MOVE ELSEWHERE. YOU KEEP

02:52 - 07.040 TALKING ABOUT TELEMARKETING

02:52 - 08.660 TELEMARKETING WHERE IS THAT IN

02:52 - 09.320 THE STATUE.

02:52 - 13.500 >>YOUR HONOR PAULA JONES I I

02:52 - 14.800 MEAN IT'S IT'S IN ONE OF THE

02:52 - 16.700 SECTIONS THAT IN MY BRIEF I

02:52 - 18.960 CAN'T CITE TO YOU THE THE

02:52 - 21.390 SECTION OF BUT IT WAS PART OF

02:52 - 23.430 THE 1996 AMENDMENTS AND THERE'S

02:52 - 24.340 A SEPARATE.

02:52 - 27.270 >>SECTION A SEPARATE SECTION

02:52 - 28.910 BUT NOT THIS SECTION IS NOT

02:52 - 30.380 RIGHT NOT THIS SECTION.

02:52 - 32.740 >>WELL THIS IS THE SECTION

02:52 - 34.400 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT

02:52 - 37.070 THERE IS GOOD PROVISION

02:52 - 38.810 AND IN THE

02:52 - 40.300 SAME STATUTE, THERE'S A

02:52 - 41.830 SPECIFIC DISCUSSION OF

02:52 - 43.620 TELEMARKETING WHAT'S NOT

02:52 - 44.870 WELL THAT I'M SORRY TO KEEP

02:52 - 46.520 INTERRUPTING ON THIS ALONG

02:52 - 48.360 THAT'S THE VERY POINT IS IN

02:52 - 50.670 THIS CASE WHEN THE VERDICT BY

02:52 - 52.110 ARMO ON THE

02:52 - 53.740 CATCH-ALL PROVISION AND THE

02:52 - 55.230 CATCH-ALL PROVISION SAYS

02:52 - 56.680 NOTHING ABOUT TELEMARKETING

02:52 - 59.420 RIGHT THAT'S CORRECT YOUR HONOR

02:52 - 01.670 SECOND FROM JUST LIKE THE SAME

02:53 - 03.550 CATCH-ALL PROVISION DOESN'T

02:53 - 05.590 TALK ABOUT FRAUD YOU ARE AND

02:53 - 07.940 RATHER DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING IN

02:53 - 09.330 NURSING HOMES WHICH WE DEALT

02:53 - 11.130 WITH IN THE CATCH-ALL PROVISION

02:53 - 12.480 CONTEXT THAN THE GOLDEN GATE

02:53 - 14.410 CASE WHICH YOU KNOW SITE AT ALL

02:53 - 16.220 IN YOUR OPENING GREAT. ALL

02:53 - 16.510 RIGHT.

02:53 - 19.010 >>YOUR HONOR I DON'T CITED IN

02:53 - 20.410 MY BRIEF BECAUSE I DON'T

02:53 - 21.500 BELIEVE THAT THE GOLDEN GATE

02:53 - 23.360 CASE RELATES TO THIS ISSUE AND

02:53 - 25.070 I DID ADDRESS THAT IN MY REPLY

02:53 - 27.050 BRIEF. MY POINT ABOUT 2

02:53 - 29.430 MARKETING IS IS MERELY THAT

02:53 - 31.070 THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE

02:53 - 33.460 LEGISLATIVE HISTORY. ARGUMENT

02:53 - 34.520 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE

02:53 - 36.350 LEGISLATIVE HISTORY FOR WHEN

02:53 - 38.870 THE 1996 AMENDMENTS WERE MADE

02:53 - 40.540 THE ONE WE'RE HERE ABOUT THEY

02:53 - 42.170 WERE THE TELEMARKETING

02:53 - 44.190 AMENDMENT WAS MADE AT THE SAME

02:53 - 45.870 TIME AND THAT'S MY ONLY POINT

02:53 - 47.280 ABOUT TELEMARKETING I

02:53 - 48.970 THIS IS NOT A TELEMARKETING

02:53 - 51.050 CASE I AM MY TIME RUNS SHORT

02:53 - 53.510 >>I MEAN LOOK AT THE STATUTE

02:53 - 54.160 AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE

02:53 - 56.630 LEGISLATIVE MY QUESTION ON THE

02:53 - 57.210 GOLDEN GATE

02:53 - 59.990 CASE IS IN THAT CASE WE SAID.

02:54 - 02.930 AND WE WERE NEARLY UNANIMOUS IF

02:54 - 04.380 NOT USE THE SOME OF THE CASE.

02:54 - 05.430 HER THROAT.

02:54 - 08.690 AND YOU WANT TO RELY ON BELMONT

02:54 - 10.760 BUT IN OUR DECISION IN GOING

02:54 - 11.170 OKAY,

02:54 - 13.490 WE WROTE NEED INTENTION TO

02:54 - 15.450 DECEIVE NOR ACTUAL DECEPTION

02:54 - 16.400 MUST BE PROVED

02:54 - 18.550 RATHER IT NEED ONLY BE SHOWN

02:54 - 20.050 THAT THE ACTS AND PRACTICES

02:54 - 22.510 ARE CAPABLE ON BEING INTERRED

02:54 - 25.830 IN A MISLEADING WAY. WHY IS

02:54 - 26.820 THAT IN THIS CASE.

02:54 - 29.250 >>YOUR OWN FIRST OF ALL THAT

02:54 - 32.280 WAS ON GOLDEN GATE WAS PUBLIC

02:54 - 33.900 ENFORCEMENT ACTION, THIS IS A

02:54 - 35.270 PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION

02:54 - 37.710 SECONDLY I BELIEVE THAT THAT

02:54 - 39.730 LANGUAGE WAS PULLED FROM.

02:54 - 42.240 I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, PEOPLE'S

02:54 - 44.600 BENEFITS SERVICES. I

02:54 - 47.250 DO THAT THE GOLDEN GATE CASE

02:54 - 49.120 WAS NOT DECIDED ON THE QUESTION

02:54 - 50.220 OF INTENT. THE GOLDEN

02:54 - 52.760 GATE CASE. A LOOK AT AS I

02:54 - 54.980 RECALL 2 ISSUES ONE WHETHER

02:54 - 56.940 CERTAIN STATEMENTS WE'RE PATH

02:54 - 59.460 OR YOU'RE NOT AND TO WHETHER

02:54 - 02.090 CERTAIN PROVISIONS I'VE THE OF

02:55 - 03.710 THE ACT WERE LIMITED

02:55 - 06.070 TO JUST ADVERTISEMENTS. SO THE

02:55 - 07.960 STATEMENT THAT EUROPE YOUR

02:55 - 10.720 HONOR HAS READ WAS WAS PULLED

02:55 - 13.460 OUT OF ANOTHER PUBLIC

02:55 - 14.940 ENFORCEMENT ACTION CASE,

02:55 - 16.860 PEOPLE'S BENEFITS SERVICES.

02:55 - 18.220 WHEN IT WAS NOT.

02:55 - 20.880 OF FINDING YOUR RULING IN THIS

02:55 - 22.720 CASE IT WAS IN THE IN THEY GO

02:55 - 24.100 GET CASE IT WAS DICK DEATH.

02:55 - 25.220 AND I

02:55 - 27.500 WOULD SUBMIT DIDN'T HAVE THE

02:55 - 29.670 THE EVALUATION EITHER IN TERMS

02:55 - 31.250 OF PLAIN LANGUAGE OR

02:55 - 33.710 LEGISLATIVE HISTORY THAT WE'RE

02:55 - 35.560 EXPANDING UPON NOW BECAUSE THIS

02:55 - 37.400 REALLY IS THE ISSUE IN THIS

02:55 - 39.430 CASE IS WHAT DECEPTIVE CONDUCT

02:55 - 39.850 TO BE.

02:55 - 42.810 THANK YOU, THANK

02:55 - 43.430 YOU SHOULDN'T.

02:55 - 46.090 >>THANK WE'RE HERE NOW FROM L

02:55 - 47.730 A. WE'RE UP.

02:55 - 51.470 >>THANK YOU CHIEF

02:55 - 52.680 JUSTICE SAILOR.

02:55 - 54.450 I HOPE THE JUSTICES OF THE

02:55 - 56.770 COURT MY NAME IS BURNED AND I'M

02:55 - 57.700 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF

02:55 - 59.680 CONSUMERS. GARY UNMARRIED

02:55 - 01.170 GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THE

02:56 - 02.540 OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS

02:56 - 04.070 IMPORTANT HER PETITION OF OUR

02:56 - 04.570 CONSUMER

02:56 - 06.760 PROTECTION LAW BASED ON THE

02:56 - 08.210 DECISIONS OF THE COMMONWEALTH

02:56 - 09.750 COURT THE SUPERIOR COURT IN

02:56 - 12.100 THIS COURT THAT INTENT IS NOT

02:56 - 13.030 AN ELEMENT OF PROOF OF THE

02:56 - 13.950 CATCHALL SECTION OF

02:56 - 15.920 THE STATUTE. IT'S CLEAR COURT

02:56 - 17.510 WAS CORRECT IN LABELING IT A

02:56 - 18.930 STRICT LIABILITY STANDARD.

02:56 - 21.440 WEREN'T YOU JUST FOR REASONS

02:56 - 23.740 WHY SHOULD A FIRM FIRST THE

02:56 - 24.260 PURPOSE OF

02:56 - 27.220 THE STATUTE. 1974 THIS QUARTER

02:56 - 28.780 LYNN MONUMENTAL PROPERTIES.

02:56 - 30.920 THE STATUE WAS ENACTED TO EVEN

02:56 - 32.410 OR LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD

02:56 - 34.070 BETWEEN CONSUMERS AND VENDORS

02:56 - 36.780 AND REDICK EATING THE USE OF

02:56 - 38.060 UNFAIR AND DECEPTIVE BUSINESS

02:56 - 40.360 PRACTICES. THIS COURT CHOSE TO

02:56 - 42.810 USE THE WORD ERADICATING PUT

02:56 - 43.430 AN END

02:56 - 46.030 THESE PRACTICES. THIS ALSO

02:56 - 47.570 HELPS LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR

02:56 - 48.100 HONEST AND

02:56 - 50.340 ETHICAL BUSINESSES. ACCORDINGLY

02:56 - 51.840 THE STATUES TO BE INTERPRETED

02:56 - 53.580 BROADLY TO PROTECT CONSUMERS.

02:56 - 55.160 THE SYSTEM WITH THIS BROAD

02:56 - 57.810 INTERPRETATION IN 2018 AND THE

02:56 - 59.520 GOLDEN GATE NURSING HOME CASE.

02:56 - 01.030 THIS COURT EXPLAINED THAT

02:57 - 02.250 NEITHER THE INTENTION TO

02:57 - 04.960 DECEIVE BRASH DECEPTION MUST

02:57 - 06.770 BE APPROVED. THE SECOND REASON

02:57 - 07.900 IS THE RULES OF STATUTORY

02:57 - 09.740 CONSTRUCTION. THE LEGISLATURE,

02:57 - 11.780 THEN A FIGHT 21 DIFFERENT FORMS

02:57 - 12.430 OF UNFAIR

02:57 - 15.210 BUSINESS PRACTICES. 18 DO NOT

02:57 - 17.180 CONTAIN ANY LANGUAGE REQUIRES

02:57 - 19.790 AN INTENT ONLY 3 DO WHEN THE

02:57 - 21.400 LEGISLATURE. BOTH INCLUDES A

02:57 - 24.030 TERM AND OMITS THAT TERM WITHIN

02:57 - 26.710 THE SAME STATUTE. JOE THAT TERM

02:57 - 28.420 IS SIGNIFICANT. HERE

02:57 - 30.100 THIS MEANS THAT INTENT IS NOT

02:57 - 31.860 REQUIRED TO PROVE OF 18

02:57 - 34.440 21 SUBSECTIONS WHICH INCLUDES

02:57 - 36.470 THE CATCH-ALL THE 3RD REASON IS

02:57 - 37.690 A CONSUMER PROTECTION LAW WAS

02:57 - 39.610 CREATED BY THE LEGISLATURE AND

02:57 - 41.010 DOES NOT COME FROM THE COMMON

02:57 - 43.370 LAW. THIS COURT MANO PROPERTY

02:57 - 45.460 IS DESCRIBED AS FRAUD. IN THE

02:57 - 47.800 STATUTORY SENSE. SCHWARTZ THE

02:57 - 48.290 ROCKY

02:57 - 51.160 2007. THIS CHRIS PLANTE A PROOF

02:57 - 52.810 OF RELIANCE DERIVED FROM THE

02:57 - 55.180 CAUSATION REQUIREMENT EXPRESS

02:57 - 57.230 ON THE FACE OF SECTION 9.2.

02:57 - 59.460 AN MOT ON THE COMMON LAW.

02:57 - 01.530 THE 4TH AND FINAL REASON IS

02:58 - 02.310 LOOKING TO THE STATES

02:58 - 03.560 SURROUNDING PENNSYLVANIA.

02:58 - 05.790 NOT REQUIRE PROOF OF INTENT.

02:58 - 07.090 IT'S LIKE A DONE IT IN THE

02:58 - 08.900 HOLE. THE SENATE WANTS TO MAKE

02:58 - 10.360 PENNSYLVANIA INTO THE HALL.

02:58 - 12.100 APPARENTLY MAKE A SAFE HARBOR

02:58 - 13.380 WHERE IS MORE DIFFICULT TO

02:58 - 14.670 PROVE A CONSUMER PROTECTION

02:58 - 16.350 VIOLATION IN THE SURROUNDING

02:58 - 16.870 STATES.

02:58 - 19.160 IN CONCLUSION. GIVEN THAT OF

02:58 - 20.670 CONSUMER PROTECTION LAWS BASED

02:58 - 22.790 UPON STATUTORY LAW IT MAKES

02:58 - 24.580 COMPLETE SENSE. THE SUPERIOR

02:58 - 25.960 COURT TO DESCRIBE THE GOVERNING

02:58 - 27.970 STANDARD, A STRICT LIABILITY.

02:58 - 29.570 IT MAKES SENSE FOR THIS COURT

02:58 - 30.560 TO DO THE SAME

02:58 - 32.670 IN ORDER TO ELIMINATE ANY

02:58 - 34.690 LINGERING DEBATE ABOUT THE

02:58 - 35.610 NATURE OF THE CATCH-ALL

02:58 - 36.820 PROVISION. THANK YOU.

02:58 - 38.860 >>THANK YOUR CHEST WITH MONEY.

02:58 - 43.570 NO QUESTIONS THANK YOU. AND

02:58 - 44.950 CAROL JUSTICE BREYER.

02:58 - 48.970 >>MISTER BAER IN IT THE RULE

02:58 - 51.610 YOU PROPOSE SOON BE SHOCKINGLY

02:58 - 53.880 WROUGHT FOREST WHICH SCRAPPLE.

02:58 - 56.760 AND SOON THAT YOU REPRESENT A

02:58 - 59.360 CLIENT. AND YOU STIPULATE

02:59 - 02.050 THEN THE REAL ESTATE

02:59 - 04.690 SALESPERSON SPOCK SALESPERSON

02:59 - 08.100 OFFICE OR AT HOME OR ANY ONE

02:59 - 10.870 AND SUNDRY VERY COMPLICATED.

02:59 - 12.860 TRANSACTIONS THAT OCCUR EVERY

02:59 - 15.820 DAY WAS OPEN WAS TRANSPARENT

02:59 - 18.100 WAS ON US WAS ABOVE BOARD.

02:59 - 21.040 BUT YOUR CLIENT WAS CONFUSED.

02:59 - 23.070 AND YOUR CLIENT MISUNDERSTOOD

02:59 - 24.600 LIABILITY OR NOT.

02:59 - 28.260 >>I THINK THAT THE LIABILITY

02:59 - 30.620 ALLIES IN IF THAT COULD BE

02:59 - 32.490 INTERPRETED AS A DECEPTIVE

02:59 - 33.930 MANNER, IT'S NOT JUST WHERE

02:59 - 35.420 THEY CAN CHOOSE THAT LEADS TO

02:59 - 37.650 CONFUSING AND OR

02:59 - 39.650 MISUNDERSTANDING OR HER.

02:59 - 41.540 SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING

02:59 - 43.980 AT HERE IS THAT AN HONEST AND

02:59 - 45.050 ETHICAL BUSINESS THAT THEY

02:59 - 46.590 REALIZE BUT THE WAY THEY

02:59 - 48.920 PRESENTED MADE COULD BE

02:59 - 50.370 INTERPRETED MORE THAN ONE WAY

02:59 - 51.610 AND ONE WHICH IS HARMFUL TO

02:59 - 53.630 THE CONSUMER. BUT ALL I HAVE TO

02:59 - 55.540 DO IS REVERSE A TRANSACTION OR

02:59 - 57.250 ON THE THE AGREEMENT AS IT

03:00 - 21.720 >>IT ALLOWS FOR MISCHIEF.

03:00 - 34.530 I'M NOT SAYING YOU DID ANYTHING

03:00 - 37.960 WHICH AS I AS I SAID AT THE

03:00 - 42.130 ESTATE IN THE COMPLEX

03:00 - 47.900 CLOSINGS ARE OR STOP IAN'S

03:00 - 51.960 DRAFTING OF A WILL OR TRUST IS

03:00 - 57.030 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF THEIR

03:01 - 02.140 BUSINESS PERSON. LAWYER.

03:01 - 07.230 CAN EITHER REFUND THE MONEY.

03:01 - 10.180 THE DOCUMENTS REFUND THE MONEY

03:01 - 16.160 FACE LIABILITY AND I FIND IT

03:01 - 19.840 LEGISLATURE INTENDED THAT

03:01 - 23.670 SO WE SHOULD EXTRAPOLATE THAT

03:01 - 27.170 LIABILITY.

03:01 - 31.770 SENATE MONUMENTAL PROPERTIES,

03:01 - 35.420 THE ERADICATION OF UNFAIR AND

03:01 - 38.100 NOT THE REDUCTION OR LESS AND

03:01 - 41.970 AIR IT'S INSIDE OF THE FAVOR

03:01 - 45.040 JUDGE. A JUDGE TO MAKE A

03:01 - 46.700 COMMON-SENSE EVALUATION OF

03:01 - 50.160 CONSUMER IS OVERSTEPPING THEIR

03:01 - 53.690 LEAD AND THE HANDLE IT SO THERE

03:01 - 55.230 HIS HONOR.

03:01 - 59.830 CONFINED TO THE IDEA OF STRICT

03:02 - 02.660 PROBLEM WITH THE INCONSISTENT

03:02 - 03.910 VERDICTS ESSENCE WHAT WAS

03:02 - 06.640 CHIEF THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

03:02 - 11.890 >>IT'S SHE. MISTER BAER AND ON.

03:02 - 13.540 >>THIS FOLLOW-UP TO JUSTICE

03:02 - 16.600 >>YOU KNOW THE PHRASE

03:02 - 21.520 THAT'S THE FIGHTING WERE PEOPLE

03:02 - 26.340 TO CLIMB NOW ISN'T

03:02 - 32.050 LOWER COURTS IN THIS CASE.

03:02 - 36.760 STRICT LIABILITY STATE.

03:02 - 41.910 IS A LATE WILL DISAPPEAR OR

03:02 - 46.540 A WAY TO WHAT HE CALLED US AND

03:02 - 48.560 THEY WERE BUT THERE WITHIN 2

03:02 - 52.210 GATE THEY WERE SAYING NO INTENT

03:02 - 54.920 AND THAT ONCE THEY SAW THAT NO

03:02 - 56.350 IN TIME'S RICK AND HE SAID

03:02 - 59.300 STRICT LIABILITY THERE'S NO

03:03 - 02.730 THE LABEL WE SHOULD BE CAUGHT

03:03 - 05.460 THE CONCEPT OF WHAT WE'RE

03:03 - 08.470 >>THAT LABEL LABEL GETS A LOT

03:03 - 11.100 >>IF.

03:03 - 15.560 IT'S NOT AND

03:03 - 19.630 NOT A STRICT LIABILITY STATUTE

03:03 - 23.440 >>NOW I THINK IT'S BROUGHT A

03:03 - 27.670 HE'S GOOD LEGISLATOR CLIPS THAT

03:03 - 31.740 OR NEGLIGENT ON DUCT THEY DID

03:03 - 35.230 DECEPTIVE. THE SEPT OF HAS A A

03:03 - 38.050 THE FIELD OF

03:03 - 41.130 INTERPRETED BY COURTS ALL OVER

03:03 - 43.320 FEDERAL COURTS IN THE FEDERAL

03:03 - 48.220 ACT WHICH THIS THAT IS BASED

03:03 - 51.260 I SHOULD MENTION THAT THE

03:03 - 52.530 FEDERAL COURTS LOOK AT THEIR

03:03 - 55.370 AND FINALLY THE STRICT

03:03 - 57.060 LIABILITY, THEY HAVE A PROBLEM

03:03 - 59.680 >>THANK YOU MISTER EAR.

03:04 - 02.790 DONE HERE.

03:04 - 06.500 THANK YOU JUST THE START OF

03:04 - 10.260 >>NOTHING SIR. THANK YOU YOUR

03:04 - 10.710 HEART.

03:04 - 13.100 COUNCIL.

03:04 - 18.580 THOUGH TENSION FOR SUBJECTIVITY

03:04 - 20.790 OR SUBJECTED CONFUSION SEEMS TO

03:04 - 24.850 APPELLANTS CONCERN DOESN'T BE.

03:04 - 30.960 >>THAT THEY HAVE.

03:04 - 40.530 CATEGORY.

03:04 - 45.130 THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A

03:04 - 51.100 EXPANSION. ACROSS ECONOMY SITE

03:04 - 55.050 BE POTENTIAL FOR GREAT

03:04 - 58.310 FACT FINDERS.

03:05 - 02.870 MAY BE COMMON PLEAS. JUDGE HAS

03:05 - 04.350 RUN THE COMPANY WOULD YOU HOW

03:05 - 04.760 WOULD YOU

03:05 - 06.920 RELATE TO THE APPELLANTS IN

03:05 - 08.250 THEIR ME KEYS POINT IN THAT

03:05 - 08.610 REGARD.

03:05 - 12.970 >>THE 3 LARGEST ECONOMIES IN

03:05 - 15.010 UNITED STATES, CALIFORNIA TEXAS

03:05 - 17.090 AND NEW YORK. NOW THE REQUIRE

03:05 - 19.130 PROOF OF INTENT. IT STARTS WITH

03:05 - 19.780 GOOD FINANCIAL

03:05 - 21.500 LOOK AT EVERY STATE THAT

03:05 - 23.140 SURROUNDS PENCIL WHICH DOES NOT

03:05 - 24.540 REQUIRE PROOF OF INTENT TO

03:05 - 26.300 ESTABLISH A CONSUMER VIOLATION.

03:05 - 28.540 SO. I WILL

03:05 - 30.240 SEE THAT THE B A.

03:05 - 33.020 A COMPELLING ARGUMENT FROM THE

03:05 - 33.720 STANDPOINT

03:05 - 36.810 G EVERYWHERE IF YOU'RE OUT

03:05 - 38.300 AND SYLVAIN YOU YOU DON'T HAVE

03:05 - 39.250 TO PROVE INTENT BUT IN

03:05 - 40.390 PENNSYLVANIA DO.

03:05 - 42.560 THEY DON'T POINT TO OTHER

03:05 - 43.750 STATES SAYING THERE WAS MASS

03:05 - 45.430 EXODUS IS FROM CALIFORNIA AND

03:05 - 46.610 CALIFORNIA SAID YOU DON'T HAVE

03:05 - 47.620 TO PROVE INTENT. THERE IS A

03:05 - 48.960 MASS EXODUS FROM NEW YORK,

03:05 - 51.440 ETCETERA ETCETERA. SO I I DON'T

03:05 - 52.750 THINK THAT THAT ARGUMENT REALLY

03:05 - 53.730 HOLDS ANY WEIGHT ON.

03:05 - 55.760 >>FINAL QUICK QUESTION SIR UH

03:05 - 58.970 WHAT YOUR

03:05 - 00.500 ADVERSARIES ARGUMENT.

03:06 - 03.010 ON THAT OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

03:06 - 04.350 HAD WANTED THIS TO BE STRICT

03:06 - 05.680 LIABILITY THEY WOULD JUST SAID

03:06 - 05.930 THAT.

03:06 - 11.340 >>YEAH THEY COULD HAVE IT'S

03:06 - 12.860 HARD TO DELVE INTO THE MINDS OF

03:06 - 14.420 OUR STATE LEGISLATURE AND WHY

03:06 - 15.420 THEY CHOOSE THE WORDS THEY

03:06 - 17.280 CHOOSE. THEY DID AND

03:06 - 18.760 WERE DECEPTIVE. THEY MEANT

03:06 - 19.890 SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO BE A

03:06 - 21.750 LOWER STANDARD THAN FRAUDULENT.

03:06 - 23.330 THERE WOULD YOU TURN THAT TO

03:06 - 25.500 THE NATURAL GRETCHEN WAS

03:06 - 26.850 DECEPTIVE TO FIND OUT IF YOU

03:06 - 27.470 LOOK BACK TO

03:06 - 29.930 THE FTC. WHICH THIS COURT SAID

03:06 - 31.810 LOOK TO FOR GUIDANCE IN THE

03:06 - 33.060 MONUMENTAL PROPERTY CASE.

03:06 - 35.860 THE FTC DOES NOT REQUIRE INTENT

03:06 - 37.880 IS INTERPRETED AS A STRICT

03:06 - 40.280 LIABILITY STATUTE AS IT IS THE

03:06 - 41.130 FEDERAL DEBT COLLECTION

03:06 - 42.950 PRACTICES ACT AS YOU KNOW THE

03:06 - 44.210 THE OTHER FEDERAL CONSUMER

03:06 - 45.710 ACTS. SO WE WOULD JUST BE

03:06 - 47.000 FALLING IN LINE WITH THE REST

03:06 - 48.330 OF THE COUNTRY THAT WAY IN HOW

03:06 - 49.380 THE FEDERAL COURTS LOOK AT

03:06 - 50.550 CONSUMER FRAUD.

03:06 - 55.830 THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU.

03:06 - 00.570 >>I WANTED TO TAKE A ONE YEAR

03:07 - 03.470 FINE REMAINING MINUTE. AND SOME

03:07 - 04.460 ROADS IF YOU MIKE.

03:07 - 07.380 >>THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE.

03:07 - 09.390 WHEN INNOCENT CONSUMER IS

03:07 - 10.950 HARMED BY THE DECEPTIVE ACTS

03:07 - 12.400 AND PRACTICES OF BUSINESS.

03:07 - 14.310 THE CONSUMER IS NOT REQUIRED TO

03:07 - 15.800 PROVE AN INTENT TO DECEIVE IN

03:07 - 17.060 ORDER TO OBTAIN RELIEF.

03:07 - 19.200 THIS RULE FOSTER'S ETHICAL

03:07 - 20.470 BUSINESS PRACTICES AND

03:07 - 22.580 DISCOURAGES THOSE ACTS THE

03:07 - 24.460 CAPACITY ORIGIN TENDENCY TO

03:07 - 26.320 MISLEAD ALL TO THE BENEFIT OF

03:07 - 28.320 CONSUMERS, AN HONEST AND

03:07 - 29.970 ETHICAL BUSINESSES WHICH IS

03:07 - 31.170 CONSISTENT WITH THE GLOBAL

03:07 - 32.670 LEGISLATURE TO ERADICATE THE

03:07 - 33.760 USE OF UNFAIR BUSINESS

03:07 - 35.210 PRACTICES AND I FALL

03:07 - 36.790 IN LOVE HERE TO SEND HIS

03:07 - 38.120 POSITION IS BASED ALMOST

03:07 - 39.430 ENTIRELY ON DEFENDANTS

03:07 - 41.350 INTERPRETATION DICTIONARY

03:07 - 43.200 DEFINITIONS STATUTORY KAREN'S

03:07 - 45.500 LEGISLATIVE HISTORY. WITHOUT

03:07 - 47.140 REFERRING TO THIS COURT'S OWN

03:07 - 49.010 GUIDANCE PROVIDED LONGSTANDING.

03:07 - 50.710 THROUGHOUT THE YEARS ON

03:07 - 52.570 THE STATUE. THIS CASE

03:07 - 53.850 REPRESENTS THE COURT WITH THE

03:07 - 55.750 OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY THE

03:07 - 57.330 ELEMENTS OF A PROFILE PRIVATE

03:07 - 59.760 CONSUMER CLAIM. THE REAFFIRMED

03:07 - 01.360 THE BROAD REMEDIAL PURPOSES OF

03:08 - 03.590 THE STATE YOU AND TO ERADICATE

03:08 - 05.430 ANY LINGERING EFFORT WHO

03:08 - 06.970 INCORPORATE COMMON LAW

03:08 - 09.160 INTENT REQUIREMENTS INTO CLAIMS

03:08 - 10.690 ARISING UNDER THE UNFAIR TRADE

03:08 - 11.770 PRACTICES AND CONSUMER

03:08 - 13.270 PROTECTION LAW THAT'S ALL

03:08 - 14.760 PROVISIONS. THANK YOU.

03:08 - 15.900 THANK YOU.

03:08 - 18.010 >>THANK YOU BOTH OF YOU

03:08 - 22.100 NUCLEAR ARGUMENTS ARE SURE


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