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PA Supreme Court Session 2020-05-27

Issues include: natural gas extraction lease consumer protection; wrongful use of civil proceedings; out-of-state drug delivery resulting in death; juvenile murder re-sentencing costs; child custody case gag order; and contested trusts and attorney-client privilege

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00:05 - ITS RELATION WE'RE CONDUCTING

00:07 - THIS SEARCH REMOTELY.

00:09 - THE COURT FOUND THAT PROCEED IN

00:11 - THIS MATTER RATHER CANCELING OR

00:14 - POSTPONING THE SESSION. AS WE

00:16 - CONSIDER QUITE KNOW THAT FOR

00:18 - SOME IN UNIFORM. EVEN IN

00:22 - A RELATIVELY DIFFICULT TIMES.

00:25 - ADDITIONALLY OUR COURT IS NOT

00:26 - BASED ON COUNTS. BUT DUE TO

00:29 - THE INMATES. YES, YES, WE HAVE

00:31 - DEVELOPED THE

00:32 - PRESSURE ON. SHE CONTROLLED ALL

00:35 - COUNCIL WHO WILL BE LOOKING

00:37 - FOR.

00:39 - JOHNNY SPEAKING COUNCIL OR I

00:42 - HAVE FALLEN HALEIGH MAXIMUM OF

00:45 - 20 MINUTES. WITH

00:47 - FAST AND THE FIRST OF SEVERAL

00:49 - MINUTES RESERVE FORM OF

00:51 - THE STATE. AND THE FINAL WHY IN

00:53 - A FEW MINUTES, WE'RE CLOSING

00:55 - REMARKS. WE WOULD ASK COUNCIL

00:58 - TEAM KEEP AN EYE ON

00:59 - THEIR WATCHES. BUT WE SURE KNOW

01:02 - OR THEM AS WE APPROACH THE

01:05 - CONCLUSION,

01:05 - THE ARGUMENT IS IT A CONCERN

01:08 - RISING FROM PUBLIC VIEW.

01:11 - JUSTICES YOU HAVE QUESTIONS

01:14 - IT'S LIKE FOR THEM. SO THE

01:16 - COUNCIL MIGHT FOCUS OR

01:17 - ATTENTION ON THE JUSTICE ASKS

01:20 - YOU A QUESTION. OR

01:22 - FIND ME AS USE CUSTOM. I WILL.

01:25 - BRIEFLY STATE'S CASE. IN HER

01:28 - REMY ISSUE BEFORE THE BOOK.

01:32 - PLEASE CALL THE FIRST CASE.

01:37 - FIRST IS MATTER COMMONWEALTH OF

01:38 - PENNSYLVANIA WITH A DEGREE IN A

01:41 - DARK HOLE

01:42 - IN IT.

01:42 - >>REPORTS COMING IN THAT ROOM

01:44 - IS EVEN A CHOSEN REPRESENTING

01:47 - CHESAPEAKE ENERGY IS DANIEL

01:48 - KEEP BRIGHT REPRESENTING THE

01:50 - COMMONWEALTH IS

01:53 - HE'S A GOOD MARKING UP. AND

01:56 - MISTER COUSIN MISTER CLARK.

01:58 - I LOVE YOU REQUESTED GO.

02:00 - AND BIG RED AN ADDITIONAL

02:02 - 4 MONTHS. PRESENT

02:04 - YOUR CASE AND WE'RE STILL A

02:06 - FEW POUNDS. I DON'T AND YOU'D

02:08 - BE DIVIDING WE'RE 30 MINUTES.

02:12 - STARR WITH MISTER PRISON.

02:14 - IN TERMS OF THE ISSUE BEFORE

02:15 - THE COURT.

02:17 - PALACE ARE ENERGY COMPANIES

02:19 - THAT

02:19 - EXECUTED LISI WHAT HAS BEEN

02:22 - YOUR RESIDENCE FOR NATURAL GAS

02:24 - EXTRACTION.

02:26 - THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FILED A

02:27 - LAWSUIT. YES,

02:29 - THE PALINS PERCENT OF THE ARM

02:31 - FOR TRADE PROPERTY IS CONSUMER

02:33 - PROTECTION LAW.

02:35 - ALLEGING THAT THEY USED TO

02:37 - SHOCK YOU THAT MEETING, I'M

02:40 - SURE TALKING SECURING THE

02:42 - LEAST. AND ALSO LIKE TO

02:44 - BE RESTRAINED. GREAT.

02:47 - PLUS ARE CHALLENGING THE

02:48 - APPLICABILITY THERE ARE

02:50 - PROTECTIONS ALL DOWN GIVEN

02:53 - THEIR STATUS CLASSY.

02:56 - A CALLOUS ALL FOR YOU. I TRUST

02:59 - CLAIMS WE'RE ON AVAILABLE.

03:01 - UNDER THE STATUTE. MR COUSINS.

03:06 - THANK YOU YOUR HONOR CORRECTLY

03:08 - SNEAKERS A FRIEND OF GEORGIA.

03:10 - IT IS THE OVERREACH OF THE U.S.

03:12 - ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE FAULTY

03:14 - REASONING OF THE COMMONWEALTH

03:15 - COURT WHICH BRINGS US HERE

03:16 - TODAY. THIS COURT GRANTED A

03:18 - HELICOPTER FROM THE PURPOSE OF

03:20 - THAT

03:20 - HER MONEY WHETHER THE ATTORNEY

03:22 - GENERAL HAD THE RIGHT UNDER THE

03:23 - SEAT, YOU KNOW THE EXERCISE

03:25 - ENFORCEMENT POWERS AGAINST

03:27 - BUYERS RATHER THAN SELLERS.

03:29 - THESE ALLIES, THE CDL AS AN

03:31 - ANTI-TRUST LAW THAT EXERCISE

03:33 - SUCH ENFORCEMENT POWERS OVER

03:35 - COMMERCIAL TRANSACTIONS

03:36 - GENERAL. THERE WAS A STATUTORY

03:39 - CONSTRUCTION. THE TEXT OF THE

03:41 - ACT AND THE LEGISLATIVE HISTORY

03:43 - SAY NO.

03:44 - BUT THE COMMONWEALTH COURT

03:45 - ANALYSIS IS SIMPLE AND WRONG.

03:47 - >>WARREN ALL THESE ARE SALES.

03:50 - 2 THE SALES PITCH IN THE SECOND

03:53 - PHRASE OF THE DEFINITION OF

03:54 - TRADE AND COMMERCE. WITH THE

03:56 - WORDS AND INCLUDES IS A

03:58 - CATCH-ALL OF SELLERS AND BUYERS

04:00 - UNDER A DICTIONARY DEFINITION.

04:02 - AND 3 WITH ROUNDUP NOW IN

04:05 - THE HAT. THEY HOLD ANYONE

04:07 - CONNECTED MUSCLE TRANSACTION,

04:09 - MAYBE SO BY THE ATTORNEY

04:10 - GENERAL. UNDER THE CPL. SINCE

04:13 - ITS ENACTMENT IN 1968. NO

04:16 - PENNSYLVANIA COURT UNTIL NOW AS

04:19 - EVERY INTERPRETED THE C E O

04:21 - THAT'S WHAT THE RISE IN MCLEAN

04:22 - BYRON BEHALF OF THE SUMMER

04:24 - AGAINST THE PERSON WHO ACQUIRE

04:26 - SOMETHING FROM A SELLER OR I

04:28 - SEPARATELY OVER RISING WRITING

04:30 - BY ACTION AGAINST

04:31 - THE PERSON SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT

04:33 - PERSON IS INVOLVED IN ANY FORM

04:35 - OF COMMERCIAL TRANSACTION.

04:36 - EARLIER IN

04:37 - THIS CASE. THE AGING CONCEDE

04:40 - THAT ANADARKO WAS A FIRE

04:42 - AND THAT THE LANDOWNERS WERE

04:43 - SUMMERS IN THESE TRANSACTIONS.

04:46 - THE TEXT CPL AND DEFINITION OF

04:48 - TRADE

04:49 - AND COMMERCE CAIN'S NEVER TEXT

04:51 - REALLY MERKEL MAGICALLY.

04:53 - THE SUGGESTION THAT TRADE AND

04:54 - COMMERCE HAS 2 SEPARATE ME AND

04:57 - THAT THE SECOND MEANS A SECTION

04:59 - OF LIES THE BUSINESS

05:00 - TRANSACTIONS GENERAL.

05:02 - AND THE DOOR WAS NOT

05:03 - ADVERTISING IS NOT

05:05 - SERVICE E IS NOT OFFERING ANY

05:07 - SERVICE OR PROPERTY IS NOT

05:09 - SELLING A SERVICE

05:10 - OR PROPERTY AND IT IS NOT

05:12 - DISTRIBUTE THE SERVICE OR

05:13 - PROPERTY TO THE

05:14 - BOTTOM LINE. AND OUR CREW IS

05:16 - NOT ENGAGED IN TRADE AND

05:17 - COMMERCE AS DEFINED BY THE CPL

05:20 - ITS TERMS OR ANY APPLICABLE TO

05:22 - THE TRANSACTIONS

05:23 - IN QUESTION. THE ENTRY INTO

05:25 - WORLD AGAINST ISIS PLANTED OR

05:27 - COLOR TRANSACTIONS, NOT COVERED

05:29 - BY

05:30 - THE CBO BECAUSE ANADARKO HAS BY

05:33 - SIMPLY ENTERING INTO A FEE

05:35 - SIMPLE THE TURNTABLE READ THE

05:37 - FEASIBLE ALL THE OIL.

05:39 - IT IS IN UNDER THE DESCRIBED

05:41 - PREMISES WITH RIGHTS OF INGRESS

05:43 - AND EGRESS

05:44 - FOR THE PURPOSES OF TRULY

05:45 - OPERATING OIL AND GAS WELLS IN

05:47 - RETURN FOR FUTURE ROYALTIES IF

05:49 - THEY DO SO. THE FIRST

05:51 - QUESTION THEN. MISTER

05:55 - COUSIN NOT. WITH IN WHICH WE'VE

05:59 - ALLOWED IT. I WOULD LIKE TO.

06:03 - I

06:03 - ASKED YOU. YES, THIS IS

06:05 - PROBABLY WHERE YOU HAVE AN

06:07 - OPPORTUNITY TO INTERFACE WITH

06:09 - THE COURT AND WE'D YES JUST TO

06:12 - SPARE.

06:16 - >>THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE JOB

06:17 - MR. KOSEN HOW THINK

06:19 - YOU HAVE CAN A PUT YOUR HANDS

06:22 - ON THE ALSO THE CASE.

06:25 - EVEN IN OUR COMPLEX SOCIETY.

06:28 - THERE ARE MANY FIRES THAT IN

06:31 - FACT CONTROL THE TRANSACTION.

06:34 - YEAH YOUR MEAT PACKING

06:36 - FACILITIES, DAIRY FARMERS.

06:38 - PERHAPS JOLLY GREEN IN

06:41 - VEGETABLES. I THOUGHT ABOUT THE

06:44 - FAIR TRADE

06:45 - COFFEE MOVEMENT BECAUSE OF THE

06:47 - EXPLOITATION OF COFFEE GROWERS,

06:48 - ALL KNOW

06:49 - CERTAINLY NOT UNITED STATES BUT

06:51 - GIVEN THE REALITY THAT.

06:54 - PURCHASER'S

06:55 - CONTROL TRANSACTIONS IN THE

06:56 - SAME WAY THAT THE LEGISLATURE

06:58 - SOUGHT

07:01 - CABIN SELLERS. WHY AS AN

07:04 - ATTORNEY.

07:05 - FALL THAT WITHIN LEGISLATIVE

07:07 - INTENT THAT THAT LAST CLAUSE

07:09 - HAVE 2, 1, 2,

07:12 - 3 WHICH SAYS INCLUDES ANY TREE.

07:15 - ANY TRADE THE WORD ANY I THINK

07:16 - IT'S MORE DESPISED IN AN

07:18 - FOR COMMERCE, DIRECTLY OR

07:20 - INDIRECTLY AFFECTED PEOPLE.

07:21 - THE COMMONWEALTH. I SAID THAT

07:24 - REGIONAL CONSTRUCTION.

07:25 - >>NO I IN SENTENCING GAUGING IN

07:27 - ANY OTHER FORTUNE OR DECEPTIVE

07:29 - CONDUCT. WHICH MEANS AS WE AS

07:32 - WE OUTLINED A PRIOR 20.

07:35 - BUT I THINK THE ANSWER TO YOUR

07:36 - QUESTION JUST A SPIRIT

07:37 - OF RESPECT IS IT THIS IS REALLY

07:39 - NOT AN ISSUE FOR THE COURTS.

07:40 - THIS IS AN ISSUE OR THE

07:41 - LEGISLATURE. THE LEGISLATURE IS

07:44 - TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT

07:46 - CERTAIN TRANSACTIONS AND

07:48 - CERTAIN RELATIONSHIPS. WELL, 2

07:49 - OR NOT TO BE OR TOLL OF THE WAR

07:52 - IN CONGRESS BY THE A CONSUMER

07:54 - PROTECTION LAW IN THIS CASE.

07:57 - I GO BY THE TAX AND THE

07:59 - STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION OF THE

08:01 - TEXT AND THERE IS NO INDICATION

08:03 - ANYWHERE IN HERE. BAD.

08:06 - THESE THESE 40'S OR ANYTHING

08:10 - OTHER THAN SELLER

08:12 - AND BY THIS KIND OF THE

08:13 - TRANSACTION IS WELL DOCUMENTED

08:16 - AS LANDOWNERS ARE SELLERS THAT

08:19 - STUFF AS YOU KNOW MISTER

08:20 - COLUMBA MAY I INTERRUPT YOU

08:22 - BECAUSE MY TIME

08:23 - IS LIMITED AND I'M NOT SURE

08:25 - THAT YOU PUT YOUR FINGER ON

08:27 - WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR FROM YOU.

08:29 - >>LANGUAGE, I'M LOOKING AT AND

08:31 - I TRUST IT'S ACCURATE

08:32 - IS TO A 1, 2, 3 DEFINITION OF

08:35 - TRADE

08:35 - AND COMMERCE. IT'S THE CLAUSE

08:37 - AND INCLUDES ANY TRADE OR

08:39 - COMMERCE DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY

08:40 - AFFECTED PEOPLE THIS COM.

08:43 - YES, YES, YES, THEY WANT TO ASK

08:44 - YOU. MY QUESTION IS WHY DOESN'T

08:47 - THAT INCLUDES SELLERS MAKE THIS

08:48 - EASY.

08:49 - I'M SO TIRED, YOU WHY DOESN'T

08:51 - INCLUDE BUYERS. IT DOESN'T

08:53 - INCLUDE BUYERS BECAUSE YOU THE.

08:57 - THAT THAT'S THE MISSION TRADE

08:59 - AND COMMERCE. THESE

09:00 - UNITS ARE IT IS NOT SEPARATED

09:03 - INTO 2 DIFFERENT

09:04 - SETS OF IDEAS OR PHRASES.

09:07 - TRADE AND COMMERCE AND INCLUDES

09:10 - ANY TRADE OR COMMERCE MEANS.

09:12 - LIKE WHAT WE JUST SAID IN

09:15 - THE PRIOR. YES IN THE PRIOR

09:17 - LANGUAGE. ADVERTISING OFFERING

09:20 - FOR SALE, SALE OR DISTRIBUTION

09:22 - OF SERVICES. WELL AND ANY

09:24 - PROPERTY.

09:27 - DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY

09:28 - AFFECTING THE PEOPLE OF THE

09:29 - COMMONWEALTH IS A DESCRIPTION

09:31 - AS CHIEF JUSTICE. A SAILOR I

09:34 - THINK RECOGNIZED.

09:35 - >>IT IS IN THE

09:38 - MOST RECENT DECISION THAT HE

09:41 - WROTE.

09:44 - >>THAN GAME. NO WAY IS THE

09:46 - FINDING THEY PROTECTED CLASS.

09:49 - >>SO.

09:51 - >>WHEN WE SAY AND INCLUDE TRADE

09:53 - OR COMMERCE IT MEANS TRADE OR

09:55 - COMMERCE HAS HERETOFORE DEFINED

09:57 - IN THIS SENTENCE WHICH.

10:00 - FACTS DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY.

10:03 - THE PEOPLE OF THIS COME.

10:05 - SO IT'S ONE UNIT HURRY

10:07 - DEFINITION IN FACT THE RULES OF

10:09 - STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION. DICTATE

10:12 - THAT RESULT BECAUSE UNDER

10:15 - 1921.

10:18 - 1921.

10:19 - BIG THEY REFER TO BEING

10:21 - GOVERNED SOLELY BY THE TEXT AND

10:24 - NOT EXPANDING THE TEXT. BEYOND

10:26 - THAT WHICH THE LEGISLATURE

10:28 - DEEMED APPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE

10:31 - I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR

10:32 - QUESTION TASTE GUYS AND I

10:33 - APPRECIATED CHIEF THANK YOU FOR

10:34 - THE TIME.

10:35 - >>THANK YOU GUYS GOT IT RIGHT.

10:38 - >>THANK YOU CHIEF

10:41 - MR KOSEN JUST

10:43 - TO SPARE, HOWEVER MY QUESTION

10:45 - THAT I HAD ABOUT THE INTER

10:46 - RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE 2.

10:49 - THE MISSIONS AND I THINK YOU

10:50 - SAW ANSWER THAT VERY WELL I

10:53 - JUST HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL

10:55 - QUESTION AND IT'S ABOUT WERE

10:58 - HURT OR A STATION IN

11:00 - YOUR HURRY. OUR COURT HAS NEVER

11:03 - IT'S TRUE. IT'S

11:05 - NOW IN THAN THAT HOW IS

11:09 - IT NOT THE MAJORITY. BOTH

11:11 - WERE STUDENTS

11:14 - I'M ASKING THAT MAY BE

11:15 - TRUE THAT IS IT'S NOW BEEN

11:18 - STIRRED AND OTHER ALLIES HAVE

11:20 - NEVER HAD.

11:23 - LATE WITH THE SURFACE TO

11:26 - ADDRESS TO FLEE.

11:27 - >>NO NOT REALLY I THINK I THINK

11:30 - THAT THAT THIS IS A CASE OF

11:31 - FIRST IMPRESSION AND SO I THINK

11:34 - YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE

11:35 - MONUMENTAL PROPERTY. YOU CAN GO

11:37 - BACK HOME.

11:39 - >>I WANT TO ALSO MAKE THE CHIEF

11:40 - JUSTICE'S OPINION WHICH

11:42 - EVERYBODY HEARD WELL IT IN IT

11:44 - AND MORE RECENTLY.

11:47 - BUT THOSE CASES CLEARLY

11:51 - STATE BUT THEIR BASIC PREMISE

11:53 - OF PRANK. IT WAS.

11:55 - WELL THE CPL AND THIS YEAR'S

11:57 - UNITED SURETY THE CBO'S WAS IT

12:00 - CAN TO CONSUMER PROTECTIONS,

12:03 - COOL. NOW WE CAN

12:05 - ALWAYS ARGUE ABOUT WHETHER OR

12:07 - NOT.

12:09 - JUSTICE ROBERTS SHOULD HAVE OR

12:11 - SHOULD NOT HURT. THIS I DO.

12:14 - THE RENTAL PROPERTY. QUESTION

12:17 - WEATHER. LET'S SEIZE UPON HIS

12:19 - PROPERTY WERE IN THE SAME

12:20 - POSITIONS, CONSUMERS

12:22 - AND THE LESS WORDS OF RENTAL

12:23 - PROPERTY WHERE THE SAME

12:24 - POSITION AS SELLERS. AND

12:27 - I THINK THE ANSWER IS HE GOING

12:30 - TO PLAY WHERE THE NAVY HAS A

12:32 - STRICT CONSTRUCTION IS I THINK

12:35 - THE COURT SHOULD NOT TAKING THE

12:36 - CASE. IT SHOULD BE LEFT TO THE

12:38 - LEGISLATURE. BUT I HAVE

12:40 - NO ORGANIZATION. THE ANALYSIS

12:42 - BUT I DO IN POINT OUT ONE THING

12:44 - THIS IS IMPORTANT.

12:47 - JUSTICE ROBERTS BE HOOKED

12:50 - OR RESPECT BEFORE WHOM I

12:52 - APPEARED SEVERAL TIMES.

12:54 - HAD JUST AS

12:56 - YOUR LOVERS. I DOT THE WE HAD

12:59 - TO PUT A SHUNT OBEY. HOW MANY

13:01 - MORE AS TO WHAT THE AND

13:04 - INCLUDES LIVES WITH ME.

13:06 - HE WOULD HAVE NEVER HAD TO GO

13:08 - THROUGH ALL OF THE PAINSTAKING

13:10 - ANALYSIS THAT HE WENT THROUGH

13:12 - IN ORDER TO DETERMINE

13:14 - WHO WORKED WHO WAS THE CELERY

13:15 - WHO WAS A CONSUMER BECAUSE

13:18 - UNDER

13:18 - THEIR INTERPRETATION. THE

13:21 - LANGUAGE AND INCLUDING

13:22 - THEREAFTER, MAKES ME EVEN LESS

13:25 - EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID BEFORE

13:27 - IN THIS IN THIS DEFINITION AND

13:29 - MAKES IT SUPER FULLEST SO WHY

13:31 - GO THROUGH THIS REALLY

13:34 - PAINSTAKING ANALYSIS AND HE

13:36 - WENT THROUGH TO JUSTIFY

13:38 - HOLDING. IT GIVES. MY

13:41 - PROPERTIES HAS TO SAY. IS THIS

13:44 - SUMMER TRANSACTIONS

13:45 - AND IT IT GIVES THE WHOLE BIG

13:47 - PAYOFF. THE COMO

13:50 - WATCH DECISION AND THE ATTORNEY

13:52 - GENERAL'S ARGUMENT THAT THE

13:54 - WORDS AND THE BLUES IS A

13:57 - TOTALLY SEPARATE AND DISTINCT

13:58 - DEFINITION

14:00 - THAT BRINGS ALL KINDS OF MOSUL

14:02 - TRANSACTIONS. UNDER THE OLD.

14:05 - UNDER THE AEGIS OF OF THE

14:08 - ATTORNEY GENERAL AND WILL THAT

14:10 - NOT THEY DIDN'T KNOW.

14:13 - WE WHEN YOU ULTIMATELY GET TO

14:15 - THE ANTI-TRUST QUESTION.

14:17 - CAN YOU JUST IMAGINE. IT WAS

14:20 - THE INTENTION OF THE

14:20 - LEGISLATURE. 100 TO ONE BATCH

14:24 - MORE.

14:25 - TO GET DISTRICT ATTORNEYS

14:27 - AROUND THE STATE. FOR

14:28 - EVERY COUNTY. THE RIGHT TO

14:30 - ENFORCE ANY TRUST MOST.

14:34 - I CAN SENSE WIND. THANK YOU SO

14:37 - THANK YOU JUSTICE TANI A.

14:39 - >>THANK YOU

14:40 - G MORNING.

14:41 - >>I AM WILLING TO DO WHAT I

14:44 - WANT TO FOLLOW UP BY MAY BE IN

14:46 - THE SAME THOUGHT PROCESS THAT

14:47 - JUST THIS AIR YEAH. I AND ON

14:51 - I'M I'M THE

14:52 - THINKING OF THE TERMS BUYER IN

14:54 - SELLER IN THE CLIMB CAPS AND

14:56 - THIS TRANSACTION AND THE

14:59 - ECONOMIC REALITY THAT SAID PLAY

15:01 - HERE. AND SO I'M

15:03 - JUST WONDERING ON IF INDEED WE

15:06 - NEED

15:07 - TO SHOEHORN I THIS TRANSACTION

15:10 - INTO THE CLIMB SECOND BUYER AND

15:12 - SELLER. WHY ISN'T.

15:15 - IN KEEPING WITH THE ECONOMIC

15:17 - REALITY HERE AND GAS EXTRACTORS

15:21 - ARE ACTUALLY SELLING

15:23 - THEIR SERVICES AND YES,

15:26 - IT'S TRACTORS.

15:27 - 2 INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ON YOU

15:31 - KNOW LOOKING FOR AND

15:32 - THE ABILITY TO ON I HAVE HERE I

15:37 - GUESS TO TRACK IT.

15:38 - I MEAN ASSUMING FOR THE SAKE

15:41 - OF DISCUSSION THAT WE ARE

15:43 - INDEED DEALING WITH AN OPEN

15:45 - MARKET IN ALL OF

15:46 - THESE TERRITORIES WHERE OWNERS

15:49 - OF GAS RIGHTS

15:51 - CAN ACTUALLY LOOK FOR THE BEST

15:54 - DEAL IN THE END THIS

15:56 - EYE ON WHO I THEY WANT TO

15:58 - CHOOSE TO EXTRACT THE GAS.

16:01 - WHY ISN'T IT THAT COMPANIES

16:03 - LIKE YOURS THAT

16:04 - YOU'RE REPRESENTING SHOULDN'T

16:06 - BE VIEWED AS SELLERS I GUESS

16:09 - IT'S TRACKING SERVICES WHICH

16:11 - SPENCE

16:11 - SQUARELY WITHIN THE CLIMB THE

16:15 - STATUTE THAT AND YOU WOULD BE

16:17 - INTERPRETED.

16:18 - >>3, 3, ANSWERS ONE. BOTH THIS

16:22 - THOUGH LANGUAGE OF THE STATUTE.

16:24 - I DON'T THINK THE SLATE OF

16:25 - HISTORY, THE ON THE LANGUAGE OF

16:26 - THE STATUTE. THERE'S NOT DO

16:28 - YOU SUPPORT THAT KIND

16:30 - OF ANALYSIS.

16:32 - >>NUMBER 2 BEFORE YOU MOVE ON.

16:36 - WHY IS IT I MEAN IF WHAT WE'RE

16:38 - LOOKING AT IS

16:39 - BUYERS AND SELLERS WHY ARE THEY

16:41 - ARE EYEING SELLERS OF EXCEPTION

16:43 - FOR BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE

16:45 - THAT'S NOT THE NATURE OF THE OF

16:46 - THE STRUCTURE OF THE FIELD

16:48 - NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER 2,

16:50 - BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A CONSUMER

16:52 - TRANSACTION.

16:53 - >>AND NUMBER 3. IF YOU LOOK

16:57 - IF YOU LOOK AT THE CASES BUT

16:59 - DEAL WITH THE DETAILS AROUND

17:00 - THE COUNTRY. THEY WILL ALL SAY,

17:03 - BUT OIL AND

17:05 - GAS LEASE IS THE CELL AND SALE

17:07 - OF THE TERMINAL. THE

17:08 - SIMPLE INTEREST. AS YOU LOOK AT

17:10 - THE CONTRACTS. WELL JUST AS

17:13 - FOG. MY CASE SCHOOL CHEN WHERE

17:15 - SHE WROTE THE OPINION AND TO DO

17:17 - IT I STOPPED BY D A AND THEY

17:19 - WERE AGAINST.

17:21 - CONTEXT THE CONTRACT MADE IT

17:23 - CLEAR THAT NOTHING WAS BEING

17:26 - SOLD. THERE WAS A PURCHASE OF

17:30 - THE RIGHTS. NOW. IF YOU FOLLOW

17:33 - YOU ARE QUESTION TO ITS LOGICAL

17:36 - EXTREME. THEN WHAT YOU HAVE IS

17:39 - YOU'RE TELLING ME IF I'M

17:41 - INVOLVED IN A BUSINESS

17:42 - TRANSACTION WHERE MY CLIENT IS

17:45 - SELLING ITS BUSINESS TO MISTER

17:48 - B. AND MISTER B ONCE UP

17:50 - A CONSIDERATION. CASH.

17:54 - AND FUTURE I CAN ASSURE A

17:56 - FUTURE PROFITS. BUT MISTER BIG

17:59 - IS ACTUALLY SELLING THE FUTURE

18:01 - PROFITS TO MY CLIENT AND HIS

18:04 - ATTORNEYS GENERAL CAN

18:05 - INTERFERE, BUT FOR PRIVATE

18:07 - PARTY TRANSACTION IN THE SALE

18:09 - OF ABYSS I THINK THAT'S ABSURD.

18:12 - QUITE FRANKLY. I SEE ABSOLUTELY

18:14 - NO SUPPORT FOR THAT. EITHER IN

18:16 - THE LANGUAGE ITSELF OR

18:17 - LEGISLATIVE HISTORY.

18:19 - >>I THANK YOU MISTER BROWN.

18:21 - MISTER AND WITH THAT WE'RE

18:25 - GOING TO. TURN

18:29 - EARNING MEYER.

18:34 - >>YEAH GOOD MORNING

18:35 - CHIEF JUSTICE AND AND TRY AND

18:38 - PRESENT. CHESAPEAKE. THIS IS A

18:41 - TEST CASE.

18:43 - TEST IS WHETHER THE CONSUMER

18:45 - PROTECTION LAW IS

18:46 - SO EXPANSIVE AND IT CAN BE AN

18:48 - OLD BY THE COMMONWEALTH

18:51 - TO BE IN

18:52 - THE 70'S AND TO SEEK RELIEVED

18:56 - AND WE HAVE A SELLERS, NOT

18:58 - CONSUMERS.

19:00 - IN A 200 BRANDS ARE IN THE 300

19:03 - PARAGRAPH K PLAN. THE

19:05 - WORD CONSUMER PIERS

19:08 - WINDS AND THAT IS IN THE NAME

19:11 - OF THE STATUTE.

19:13 - FOR OVER 50 YEARS THIS SCORED

19:15 - IN EVERY OTHER COULDN'T COME

19:16 - LOOK AT THIS LOOK AT THE

19:17 - STATUTE AND HAS INTERPRETED HAS

19:20 - CONCLUDED THAT ITS OBJECT AND

19:22 - ITS PURPOSE. IT'S TO PROTECT.

19:24 - CONSUMERS.

19:26 - FROM 1974 19 MENTAL PROPERTIES

19:29 - TO THE RECENT DECISION IN

19:30 - GOLDEN GATE. THIS COURT JUST

19:32 - NEEDED THE PURPOSE OF THE

19:34 - STATUE IS IT EVEN THE PARTY IN

19:37 - POWER BETWEEN CONSUMERS

19:39 - AND SELLERS. SO THEY'RE ON

19:41 - EQUAL FOOTING.

19:44 - THIS IS NOT THEIR CONTENT.

19:48 - ALSO WE BUY.

19:51 - IN THIS STATUTE

19:52 - WILL BECOME A GENERAL

19:54 - ALL-PURPOSE BUSINESS REGULATION

19:56 - STATUTE. IT CAN BE INVOKED BY

19:58 - ANY DISTRICT ATTORNEY ERNIE OR

20:01 - THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. THIS CASE

20:03 - IS CONTROLLED BY THE PLAIN TEXT

20:04 - OF

20:04 - THE STATUTE. IN EVERY RESPECT

20:07 - THE STATUTE SUPPORTS ONLY

20:09 - ONE CONCLUSION AND THAT IS THAT

20:11 - CHECKED WAS TO

20:12 - PROTECT CONSUMERS. THE ATTORNEY

20:14 - GENERAL'S KINDER MORGAN IS

20:16 - BESIDE MISTREATED AND CANDIDLY

20:18 - AND ABSURD READING THE

20:20 - DEFINITION OF

20:20 - TREATING COMMERCE AND ALSO OVER

20:23 - READING IN THIS CASE THIS

20:25 - COURT'S DECISION AND AND AND

20:27 - AND THE

20:27 - ANTITRUST BRIEFLY. THE CONSUMER

20:30 - PROTECTION LAW PROTECTS

20:32 - CONSUMERS. NOT MARKETS.

20:35 - NOWHERE IN THE STATUTE DOESN'T

20:36 - EVEN REFERENCED ANTITRUST

20:38 - CONCEPTS SUCH AS RESTRAINT A

20:40 - TREE, NOT THE LEAST 6 JOINT

20:42 - VENTURES OR ANY OTHER CONCEPT.

20:46 - IT IS ALSO CRITICAL

20:47 - TO NOTE THAT THE STATUTE DOES

20:48 - NOT EXPRESSLY INCORPORATED ANY

20:51 - ANTITRUST STATUE AND THAT

20:53 - DISTINGUISHES IT FROM THE

20:54 - FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION ACT

20:56 - EXPRESSWAY INCORPORATES THE

20:58 - SHERMAN ACT.

20:59 - WE NEED 100 COMMISSION LOOKED

21:01 - AT THE ATTORNEY

21:02 - GENERAL'S LAWMAKING AND HIS

21:03 - ATTEMPT TO DECIDE SALE

21:05 - TO BUY AND IS INTENDED TO ADD

21:08 - 10 NEW MARKET PRACTICES THAT

21:10 - WOULD BE PUT ME ON THAT YET ANY

21:12 - KIND OF REVIEW COMMISSION SAID

21:13 - THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WAS

21:15 - EXCEEDING HIS AUTHORITY INSURED

21:17 - THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY'S INTEND

21:20 - WAS AND IS CLEAR. THE STATUTE

21:22 - PROTECTS CONSUMERS AND

21:24 - LIBERAL CONSTRUCTION. DOES NOT

21:26 - CHANGE THAT FUNDAMENTAL.

21:28 - I CHECKED THE STATUE. I LOOK

21:30 - FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS THANK

21:32 - YOU.

21:32 - >>THANK YOU MISTER BURGESS

21:34 - DAUGHERTY.

21:36 - I WOULD MAKE HIM FOLLOW THIS IS

21:37 - WHAT JUSTICE MONDAY

21:38 - SAID WHY NOT THE CONDUCT OF

21:41 - YOUR CLIENT BECAUSE IT IS

21:42 - SELLING OIL AND GAS EXTRACTION.

21:46 - >>IN A

21:46 - FEDERAL QUESTION.

21:47 - >>AND YOU JUST HAPPY THE REASON

21:49 - FOR THAT IS SIMPLE FALL.

21:51 - FIRST. WHEN THE TRANSACTION

21:53 - OCCURS.

21:55 - THE INDEPENDENTS ARE NOT UNDER

21:57 - ANY OBLIGATION TO DEVELOP THE

21:59 - PROPERTY. WHEN THE LEASE

22:01 - IS SIGNED. THE FINAL

22:03 - BLOW GOES FROM THE PELOTON

22:06 - TO THE CONSIDER THE UP HER TO

22:08 - THE SELLER.

22:10 - AND THEY HAVE PAID UPFRONT

22:12 - WE'LL T.

22:13 - THAT KIDS NEED POUNDS THE

22:14 - OPPORTUNITY BUT NOT THE

22:16 - OBLIGATION. AND DEVELOP THE

22:19 - MINERAL RIGHTS. IF THEY

22:20 - DON'T DEVELOP THE MINERAL

22:21 - RIGHTS TO KNOW RIGHT WE ARE

22:23 - BACK TO THE SELLER.

22:26 - SO IT IS NOT THIS IS NOT A

22:27 - CONTRACT FOR THE SALE

22:28 - DISTRIBUTION SERVICES. YES, YOU

22:31 - SHOULD SERVICES BECAUSE WE ARE

22:32 - UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO DEVELOP

22:34 - A GUESS THE ONLY THING THAT

22:35 - HAPPENS WHEN THE LEASE IS

22:36 - SIGNED IS A FRONT PAYMENT

22:39 - IS MADE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING

22:40 - THAT IS FOR THE POTENTIAL TO

22:42 - DEVELOP TO GUESS AND MANY MANY

22:44 - MANY LEASES ARE NOT DEVELOPED.

22:47 - SO THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION

22:48 - SECT.

22:51 - >>THOUGH IT THAT'S ANALOGOUS TO

22:52 - A PORN SHOP AND CORRECT.

22:56 - IN WHAT HAS BEEN A CUSTOMER

22:59 - WOULD BE THE STORE OWNER.

23:00 - AND THE SELLER WOULD BE

23:01 - TRADITIONALLY REGARDED AS THE

23:03 - CUSTOMER.

23:06 - >>IT'S ALL IN YOUR

23:07 - EXAMPLE SIRTE. THE STORE OWNER.

23:14 - >>HAS THE OPPORTUNITY

23:16 - TO PURCHASE

23:17 - SOMETHING FROM THE PERSON

23:19 - COMING IN SEEKING TO GET VALUE

23:21 - FOR IT.

23:23 - STORE OWNER IS A.

23:26 - JUST SHARE IN THAT INSTANCE.

23:31 - >>AND THE SELLER AND THE SELLER

23:33 - IS UNDER NO OBLIGATION.

23:35 - >>YOU CAN FOR THE ARTICLE FOR

23:37 - ANY VALUE IF IT DOESN'T LIKE

23:39 - THE VALUE OF THE STORE OWNER IS

23:40 - OFFERING. THE SELLING. IT IS

23:43 - NO OBLIGATION TO ENTER INTO A

23:46 - TRANSACTION JUST LIKE

23:47 - LANDOWNERS HERE THEY

23:48 - WERE IN THEY'RE UNDER NO

23:49 - OBLIGATION TO ENGAGE IN A

23:51 - TRANSACTION WITH 2 COUNTS.

23:54 - >>THEY ARE NOW.

24:00 - >>THANK US THIS MORNING

24:01 - COUNCIL. WE ARE

24:04 - YOU POINT OUT AND YOU AND

24:05 - MISTER PRESIDENT BOTH POINT OUT

24:07 - THAT E.

24:09 - GENERAL ASSEMBLY DID NOT PASS

24:11 - THE ANTI-TRUST STATUE.

24:14 - >>IS THAT EXCLUDE THE

24:15 - POSSIBILITY THAT CPL. COULD

24:19 - ALLOW FOR CLAIMS.

24:22 - SOUNDING ENOUGH. ANTI

24:24 - COMPETITIVE BEHAVIOR RELATING

24:26 - TO CONSUMER CONFUSION IN OTHER

24:28 - WORDS.

24:31 - >>NOT A TRIUMPH FOR 8 MONTHS

24:32 - NOT NOT ANTITRUST WRIT LARGE

24:35 - BUT.

24:36 - SOME TYPES OF ANTI

24:38 - COMPETITIVE BEHAVIOR OR FOR

24:40 - HUMAN RESET FAR AS TO SAY THAT

24:42 - UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES CAN

24:44 - THE STATUTE

24:45 - REACH THOSE. IT DOES YOUR HONOR

24:48 - BECAUSE THE CONSUMER PROTECTION

24:50 - STATUTE AND THE GENERAL

24:51 - ASSEMBLY'S INTENT IN AN ACTING.

24:53 - >>WAS NOT

24:54 - TO REACH ANY CONDUCT THAT WOULD

24:57 - AFFECT COMPETITION

24:58 - FOR MARKETS. THE STATUE IS

25:00 - BEREFT OF ANY STANDARD THE

25:03 - TRIAL COURT WOULD APPLY IN THE

25:05 - FUTURE TO DECIDE WHETHER THE

25:07 - ALLEGED CONDUCT. WHAT SEEMS

25:09 - ACTIONABLE UNDER ONE OF THE 21

25:11 - SOME FLAWS AND THIS STATUE.

25:13 - SO FOR EXAMPLE IN

25:14 - THIS CASE. THERE'S AN ALLEGED

25:16 - JOINT VENTURE BETWEEN GET

25:18 - COMMENTS.

25:19 - AND IT'S NOTEWORTHY THAT THAT'S

25:21 - THE ONLY ISSUE

25:23 - IT'S NOT AND THAT'S NOT BEFORE

25:25 - THE COURT AND THAT IS THE

25:26 - COMMONWEALTH COURT FOUND.

25:28 - THE JOINT VENTURE IS NOT PER SE

25:30 - A LAWFUL. SO HERE WHAT HE WOULD

25:32 - HAVE IT IS THE REMAINING COUNT

25:35 - AND COUNT 4.

25:36 - THIS SEEMS TO MAKE ACTIONABLE

25:38 - THE FAILURE TO DISCLOSE THE

25:40 - JOINT VENTURE THAT WAS NOT IN

25:42 - FACT UNLAWFUL. SO

25:44 - THE THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION

25:46 - IS YES, THIS IS NOT A.

25:48 - ANTITRUST STATUTE AND IF THE

25:50 - GENERAL ASSEMBLY WANTS TO ENACT

25:52 - AN ANTITRUST STATUTE HAS THAT

25:53 - OPPORTUNITY IS 26 TIMES IT'S

25:55 - CONSIDERED IT AND DECIDED NOT

25:57 - TO AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

26:00 - CANNOT CONVERT THIS CONSUMER

26:01 - PROTECTION STATUTE INTO A

26:03 - GENERAL BUSINESS ANTITRUST.

26:06 - THANK YOU.

26:07 - >>I GOT MONDAY. I HAVE NO

26:10 - QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, THANK

26:12 - YOU.

26:19 - WE NOW HAVE THE ISSUE OF TIME

26:21 - REMAINING SO I JUST ISSA AND

26:25 - THERE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION YOU

26:26 - THAT MR. OR.

26:34 - >>JUST DESPAIR YOU'RE ON YOU.

26:39 - YOU

26:39 - HEAR ME.

26:40 - YES.

26:41 - >>I APOLOGIZE. I WAS TOLD MY

26:43 - PAPER RATTLING WAS HACKED SO

26:46 - THANK YOU JUSTICE ON IT.

26:47 - MISTER BRIER THE ME IN MAKING

26:50 - YOUR OPENING PRESENTATION THAT

26:52 - I DISCERN AN ATTEMPT TO

26:53 - DISTINGUISH BETWEEN A SELLER

26:56 - AND A CONSUMER UNDER THE

26:57 - STATUTE.

26:59 - >>YES AND.

27:00 - >>WELL AVERAGE ON THAT.

27:02 - >>YEAH AND SOON CONSUMERS

27:04 - ARE PURCHASERS. CONSUMERS ARE

27:06 - PERSONS WHO ARE ENGAGED IN

27:08 - TRANSACTIONS WITH THE CONTAIN

27:10 - VALUE. HE WAS ALERT. THE

27:12 - SELLERS ARE OR NOT.

27:15 - THE SOONERS.

27:16 - >>LET ME LET ME I I UNDERSTAND

27:18 - OUT ON MISSIONS BEFORE LET ME

27:19 - ASK A DIFFERENT QUESTION.

27:21 - MY MY SCANT TIME AGAIN IN YOUR

27:23 - OPENING YOU DISCUSSED THE

27:26 - UNDERLYING LEGISLATIVE INTENT

27:28 - WAS TO EQUALIZE THE BALANCE

27:31 - OF POWER BETWEEN

27:34 - A SELLER.

27:36 - >>AMERICANS IN A CONSUMER.

27:40 - >>THAT IT IN NO WE DISCUSS THIS

27:42 - A LITTLE BIT WITH IF JOHN MR.

27:44 - KOSEN.

27:46 - >>IT IN THE REAL WORLD WHERE.

27:50 - >>AYERS SAID SHE'S

27:51 - YOUR CLIENT REALLY HOLD ALL THE

27:54 - ECONOMICS WAY LET'S GET TO THIS

27:56 - MALL OWNERS. I PARTICULARLY

27:58 - GIVEN YOUR JOINT VENTURE

28:00 - WHICH SCHOOLS REGARDLESS OF

28:01 - WHAT IT WAS ACTIONABLE OR NOT

28:03 - WAS

28:03 - ANTI COMPETITIVE, DOESN'T IT

28:05 - MAKE SENSE THAT THE LEGISLATURE

28:07 - OF INTENT. IF YOU READ

28:09 - THE STATUTE WOULD BE TO GIVE

28:11 - SOME PROTECTION TO SELLERS

28:15 - WHO ARE.

28:16 - >>IN THE

28:17 - D E.

28:19 - >>UPON PARTY IN THESE

28:20 - TRANSACTIONS.

28:22 - >>RESPECTFULLY

28:22 - JUSTICE SPIRIT DOESN'T AND I

28:24 - WANT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING

28:25 - THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN THE

28:26 - SECOND AMENDED COMPLAINT IN

28:28 - THIS ISN'T THE REPRODUCED

28:29 - RECORDED PAGES TO 1009 1010.

28:34 - THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IN FACT

28:36 - ALLEGES THEN MANY LANDOWNERS

28:38 - NEGOTIATED QUOTE UNQUOTE

28:40 - HARD BARGAINS. NOW TELL ITS

28:43 - REVISED LEASE TERMS BASED ON

28:45 - INSISTING. DEMANDS MOST OF THE

28:48 - LANDOWNERS AND

28:50 - IN FACT THE REALITY IS TO

28:53 - LANDOWNERS CONSIST OF ALL KINDS

28:55 - OF PEOPLE

28:56 - THERE ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT

28:58 - CORPORATE ENTITIES THAT OWN

28:59 - SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS

29:00 - OF LAND. LATER THEY GOT

29:02 - TOGETHER AND POINT GROUPS AND

29:04 - HIRED LAWYERS. SO THE NARRATIVE

29:06 - THAT HAS EVOLVED THAT THIS IS

29:07 - SOME RELATIONSHIP

29:09 - THAT IS DISPARATE IS NOT

29:12 - SUPPORTED BY THE SECOND AMENDED

29:13 - COMPLAINT WHICH TROOPS WHICH

29:14 - ALLEGES THAT THE LANDOWNERS IN

29:16 - FACT IN DEMAND AND INSISTED ON

29:19 - TERMS AND THE REALITY IN

29:21 - THE MARKET. AND SECONDLY IT'S

29:23 - IT'S NOT SUPPORTED BECAUSE

29:25 - THAT'S AND THAT'S A DECISION

29:26 - FOR THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

29:27 - SURFACE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY'S

29:30 - DEFINITION OF TRADE

29:31 - AND COMMERCE. IT'S FOCUSED ON

29:33 - CONDUCT THAT SELLERS

29:34 - ENGAGE IN. IF YOU WANTED TO

29:37 - WRITE A STATUE TO PROTECTED.

29:39 - THE MORE. THE PARTY THAT DIDN'T

29:41 - HAVE AS MUCH

29:42 - BARGAINING POWER. IT COULD HAVE

29:44 - ENDED VERY DIFFERENTLY TO SAY

29:46 - TRAINING CAMP, THIS MEANS ANY

29:47 - TRANSACTION THE TRANSFER OF

29:49 - MONEY AND THAT WOULD BE LOOKING

29:51 - AT IN EVERY INSTANCE WHO HAD

29:53 - THE PARTY IN POWER

29:55 - SO IT'S NOT SUPPORTED BY THE

29:56 - SECOND MAN TO COMPLAIN, IT'S

29:58 - NOT SUPPORTED BY PLANE TURN

30:00 - COMMERCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU

30:02 - JUSTICE TIED.

30:04 - >>YES, THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE.

30:06 - MISTER

30:07 - PRYOR IN A LOT TO A LINE OF

30:10 - QUESTIONING THAT JUSTICE TANI

30:12 - HE PURSUED IT'S JUST THEY'RE

30:15 - FOLLOWING UP ON AS WELL.

30:17 - IN ORDER FOR US. IN CONSTRUE

30:20 - ING THE STATUTE.

30:22 - 2 IN REGARD TO THE

30:25 - ECONOMIC REALITY WHAT'S REALLY

30:27 - GOING ON OUT HERE

30:29 - IN IN SOME OF YOU.

30:33 - DON'T WE NEED TO GO BEYOND THE

30:35 - PLAIN LANGUAGE OF

30:36 - THE STEP TO AND I DOVE INTO

30:39 - SYRIA.

30:41 - >>YOUR

30:41 - HONOR THIS. WE MUCH CASE LAW

30:44 - THAT SAYS THE COURT

30:45 - SHOULD NOT IN NORTHERN PLAIN

30:47 - TEXT OF THE STATUTE TO PURSUE

30:49 - ITS SPIRIT. THIS STATUTE IS

30:52 - CLEAR IS INTENDED TO

30:55 - PROTECT CONSUMERS. THE FACT

30:57 - THAT THIS IS A CASE OF FIRST

30:58 - IMPRESSION INVOLVING

30:59 - GAS LEASES DOESN'T CHANGE THE

31:01 - METAL OBJECT THE STATUTE IS TO

31:03 - PROTECT CONSUMERS IN

31:04 - THE COMMONWEALTH HAS SAID ON

31:07 - THE RECORD AND HAS NEVER

31:08 - WAVERED FROM THIS.

31:09 - THIS IS A PAGE 2759 OF THE

31:11 - WRECKAGE. THE LANDOWNERS ARE

31:13 - SELLERS.

31:15 - THEY ARE NOT PURCHASES. I DON'T

31:17 - THINK

31:17 - YOU CAN ONLY ON THE PLAIN TEXT

31:19 - OF THE STATUTE, THE CONTROL

31:20 - THEY WANT TO MAKE ONE OF THE

31:21 - 3 POINT. THESE LANDOWNERS ARE

31:24 - NOT WITHOUT RELIEF.

31:26 - THERE IS A CLASS ACTION

31:27 - SETTLEMENT AND EASY FOR ME IN

31:29 - THE

31:29 - MIDDLE DISTRICT. BRIGHT LIGHT

31:31 - IS VERY PEOPLE THINK THIS

31:32 - COUNCIL THAT WAS A PRELIMINARY

31:34 - APPROVAL BY THE TRIAL COURT.

31:36 - SO THEY KNOW HOW TO GET AT

31:37 - LEAST IN THE U.S. IT'S SOON IN

31:39 - CONTRACT SAYING THAT OUR

31:41 - CLIENTS TO PALETTE IN ACTING

31:43 - UNDER THE CONTRACT.

31:45 - SO THIS COURT REVERSES AS THEY

31:47 - ARE DUE

31:47 - TO DO THE HEALTH OF THE

31:50 - LANDOWNERS ARE NOT WITHOUT WE

31:52 - THERE'S THERE IS BEFORE THE

31:53 - COURT A PRELIMINARY APPROACH 7.

31:55 - >>THANK

31:56 - YOU COUNT.

31:57 - >>MISTER BROWER WORK THAT COULD

31:59 - WORK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY A

32:01 - WORD OR 2.

32:02 - AND BY WAY OF SUMMATION WILL

32:04 - THAT TURN TO THE COMMONWEALTH

32:06 - THAT FOLEY.

32:08 - >>THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE

32:08 - TAYLOR IN CLOSING I WANT TO

32:10 - THANK THE COURT FOR

32:11 - FACILITATING THIS VIDEO

32:12 - ARGUMENT DID SOMETHING THAT A

32:13 - CRITICALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE TO

32:15 - EVERYBODY.

32:16 - THE SECOND QUESTION

32:17 - INVOLVING IN A TRUST IS

32:19 - CONTROLLED BY THE FIRST

32:20 - QUESTION IF THIS COURT AGREES

32:22 - WITH ME THAT THE STATUE IS NOT

32:24 - INTENDED TO AND DOES NOT

32:25 - PROTECT SELLERS.

32:29 - THE ISSUE IS

32:30 - VERY SIMPLE. THE ATTORNEY

32:32 - GENERAL'S ONLY HAS THE

32:34 - AUTHORITY GRANTED TO HIM BY THE

32:36 - GENERAL ASSEMBLY HE HAD NO

32:37 - GENERAL

32:38 - POLICE SUMMARY. HE HAS NO

32:40 - NUMBER OF THE WRITINGS TO

32:42 - PURSUE WHAT HE BELIEVES TO BE

32:44 - ACTIONABLE AND LACI WAS AN

32:47 - ACCORD WITH THE STATUE ANY CAN

32:49 - ONLY PURSUE CLAIMS THAT THE

32:51 - CURRENT RATE IN COMMERCE AND

32:53 - HE'S DOWN. CALDWELL CONTENDS

32:55 - THAT THE TRIAL COURT JUDGE

32:56 - BROWN WAS VERY SKEPTICAL THAT

32:58 - THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S EFFORT.

33:00 - THIS ONE IN CONSUMER PROTECTION

33:02 - STATUTES. HE SHOULDN'T TRUST

33:04 - IS SKEPTICISM. JUST JUDGE KOBE

33:08 - AND I THINK A BRILLIANT DESCENT

33:10 - GOT IT RIGHT. I RESPECTFULLY

33:13 - ASK THIS COURT TO REVERSE

33:16 - BECOME WELL COURT AND TO REMAIN

33:19 - IN THE MATTER

33:23 - TEXANS

33:24 - TO SAY. I AGAIN THANK YOU FOR

33:26 - YOUR TIME IS MUCH APPRECIATED

33:28 - THANK YOU BERKE THANK YOU

33:29 - MISTER COUSINS NOW OUT HERE FOR

33:31 - THAT.

33:36 - >>MAY IT PLEASE

33:37 - THE COURT. MY NAME IS OUR TOP

33:39 - COURT. I'M A SENIOR DEPUTY

33:41 - ATTORNEY GENERAL. I REPRESENT

33:43 - THE COMMONWEALTH. THE

33:45 - COMMONWEALTH MAINTAINS THAT

33:47 - CHESAPEAKE IN ANADARKO

33:49 - THE VIOLATED UNFAIR TRADE

33:51 - PRACTICES AND CONSUMER

33:53 - PROTECTION LAW IN 2 WAYS.

33:56 - FIRST, THEY HAVE ACTED

33:58 - DECEPTIVELY BY INDUCED

34:00 - LANDOWNERS TO ENTER INTO WILL

34:02 - AND GAS LEASES BUT THEN REDUCE

34:04 - THE AMOUNT OF

34:06 - ROYALTIES PROMISED HE'S BEEN

34:08 - MISREPRESENTED IT WAS

34:10 - PROTECTION. BUT WHOSE

34:11 - PRODUCTION COSTS. SECOND.

34:14 - THEY HAVE ACTED UNFAIRLY.

34:16 - ENTERING THE MARKET ALLOCATION

34:18 - AGREEMENT WHO WATCHED

34:19 - DIMINISHED COMPETITION AND

34:21 - THEREBY LOWERED THE MARKET

34:22 - RATE. THE BONUS PAYMENTS AND

34:25 - ROOKIE RATES.

34:27 - CHESAPEAKE ANY IN A DARK HIS

34:28 - DEFENSE TODAY IS NOT THAT THEY

34:30 - DIDN'T ENGAGE. THAT IS A TEASE.

34:33 - INSTEAD, THEY ARGUE THAT THEY

34:35 - CAN NOT BE LIABLE. UNDER THE

34:37 - LAW BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ENGAGE

34:40 - IN TRADE IN COMMERCE. AND I'M

34:41 - NOT SO WEEKS GOODS OR SERVICES.

34:45 - DESPITE

34:46 - THEIR PROTESTS. THERE'S NO REAL

34:48 - DOUBT THIS SECURING LEASES THE

34:50 - PRODUCTION OF NATURAL GAS AS A

34:52 - BUSINESS ACTIVITY WHICH

34:54 - CONSTITUTES TRADE AND COMMERCE

34:56 - SECTION 2 OF THE LAW DEFINES

34:58 - THEY DIDN'T COMMERCE BROADLY

35:00 - RESTRICTING ITS JOB WOULD

35:02 - DIMINISH THE RATES.

35:03 - PENNSYLVANIANS IN A MANNER

35:05 - WHICH IS CONTRARY. THE GENERAL

35:07 - ASSEMBLY'S INTENT IN ENACTING

35:09 - THE LAW. CHESAPEAKE

35:13 - WELL ACTUALLY RESTS ON

35:14 - THEIR POSITION THAT ONLY

35:15 - SELLERS OF GOODS AND SERVICES

35:17 - THEY BE LIABLE UNDER THE LAW O

35:20 - WEATHER. THIS IS SIMPLY NOT

35:21 - TRUE SECTION 7, 9.2 PROVIDE FOR

35:25 - PRIVATE ACTIONS

35:27 - AGAIN SELLERS. THEY DO NOT

35:29 - IMPOSE GENERAL LIMITATIONS ON

35:31 - THE DEFINITION OF TRADE AND

35:32 - COMMERCE OTHER PARTS OF THE

35:34 - LAW. THIS IS A PUBLIC ACTION BY

35:38 - THE ATTORNEY GENERAL UNDER

35:39 - SECTION 4. HE'S UNDER

35:42 - SECTION 4 ARE NOT LINKED

35:44 - TO SELLERS AND MAY BE BROUGHT

35:46 - AGAINST ANY PERSON ENGAGED

35:48 - IN UNFAIR AND DECEPTIVE TRADE

35:50 - PRACTICES. AS FOR THE

35:52 - SECOND ISSUE CHESAPEAKE

35:54 - IN ANADARKO MAINTAIN THAT ANY

35:57 - COMPETITIVE BEHAVIOR. HE DID BY

35:59 - FEDERAL IN-STATE ANTI-TRUST LAW

36:02 - AND NOT BE THE BASIS OF A

36:04 - SEPARATE CAUSE OF ACTION UNDER

36:05 - THE LAW.

36:07 - HOWEVER THE COURT SHOULD LOOK

36:08 - TO WHETHER THERE IS A VIOLATION

36:10 - OF OF THE LAW BUT WHETHER

36:12 - SUCH VIOLATION WOULD ALSO

36:14 - CONSTITUTE AN ANTI-TRUST

36:16 - VIOLATIONS. IT IS THE COMMON

36:18 - WAS POSITION AND ACTIONS WHICH

36:20 - CONSTITUTE SEPARATE VIOLATIONS

36:22 - OF ANY TRUST LOW ARE ALSO

36:24 - ENCOMPASS BY AND MAY PROVIDE

36:26 - FOR BECAUSE OF ACTION UNDER THE

36:28 - UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICES AND

36:30 - CONSUMER PROTECTION LAW.

36:32 - FOR THESE REASONS THE DECISION

36:34 - OF THE COMMONWEALTH COURT

36:36 - SHOULD BE AFFIRMED.

36:38 - THANK YOU JUSTICE TIME HERE.

36:42 - >>I CAN

36:43 - SO I'M GOING TO FOLLOW UP BY

36:44 - MY EYE EARLIER QUESTION ARE

36:47 - REGARDING THE ECONOMIC REALITY

36:49 - OF THIS TRANSACTION IN I'M

36:51 - LOOKING FOR REPRIEVE FROM

36:52 - SOMEONE THAT HE IS IN SURGERY.

36:55 - ANALYSIS SO LET ME ASK YOU

36:58 - WHY EYES THE

37:01 - ATTORNEY GENERAL NOT TAKEN

37:04 - THAT POSITION THAT THE

37:06 - ECONOMIC REALITY OF THIS

37:07 - TRANSACTION IS HAPPY GAS.

37:09 - IT'S TRACTORS ARE SELLING THEIR

37:12 - SERVICES AS GAS EXTRACTOR.

37:17 - >>THAT IS A THEORY

37:19 - WHICH WE HAVE THOUGHT OF BUT.

37:22 - WE HAVE OUR POSITION IS IF YOU

37:24 - LOOK AT THE MEANING OF TRADE

37:25 - AND COMMERCE THE DEFINITION

37:28 - UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL AND IF

37:29 - YOUR ANSWER IS.

37:31 - >>YOU'RE TRYING TO GET

37:32 - THE BROADEST POSSIBLE

37:34 - INTERPRETATION ON FROM THIS

37:36 - COURT.

37:38 - >>I HAS TO

37:39 - BE HOT. I SCOPE OF THIS APP AND

37:42 - TO ME THAT'S 9 O WE GETTING

37:44 - THAT RESPONSE. JUST FOR THE

37:47 - SAKE OF DISCUSSION.

37:48 - I BET WE CONCLUDE THAT THE

37:50 - PARAMETERS OF

37:51 - THE STAFF OUR STEPS FOR NEARLY

37:54 - CLEARLY IN TERMS OF THEIR

37:56 - PROTECTION WORRIED THEIR

37:57 - CONSUMER OR CONSUMERS AND.

38:00 - >>I THE DICHOTOMY BETWEEN

38:01 - BUYERS AND SELLERS. THE

38:03 - NECKLINE TAX.

38:06 - SHOULD WE LOOK TO

38:08 - THE ECONOMIC REALITY OF A

38:10 - TRANSACTION TO DETERMINE

38:12 - WHETHER

38:12 - OR NOT HERE FOR EXAMPLE, THERE

38:15 - IS IN FACT THE SALE OF SERVICES

38:18 - THAT THESE TAKING PLACE BY THE

38:20 - GAS SECTORS.

38:22 - I SINK.

38:24 - >>THE TRANSACTION COULD BE

38:25 - VIEWED THAT WAY I WOULD PUSH

38:27 - BACK A LITTLE BIT THAT THIS

38:30 - ACTION IS BROUGHT UNDER SECTION

38:32 - 4 IN THE

38:33 - PUBLIC INTEREST BY THE ATTORNEY

38:35 - GENERAL WHICH IS BROADER THEN

38:38 - SECTION 9.2. WARY SPECIFICALLY

38:41 - TALKS ABOUT SELLERS.

38:45 - >>THANK YOU JUSTICE DAUGHERTY.

38:52 - IT'S THE START OF THE YEAR AND

38:53 - YOU GET DOWN.

38:54 - THANK YOU, THANK YOU COUNCIL

38:56 - AND THE QUESTION WHY SAID

38:58 - THEY'RE A FAILED ATTEMPT AT

38:59 - LEAST 24 TIMES BY THE GENERAL

39:01 - STANLEY THE PASS AND THEN TRY

39:03 - IT.

39:03 - STATUTE SHOULD WE PERMIT YOU TO

39:06 - DO WITH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

39:07 - HAS NOT INTEND TO PURSUE ITS

39:09 - STATUTORY INTERPRETATION.

39:11 - I AM EATING YOU EXPLAIN UNDER

39:15 - THE UNFAIR TRADE.

39:16 - >>SO OUR POSITION IS THAT

39:19 - THE LAW COVERS UNFAIR AND

39:22 - DECEPTIVE PRACTICES WHICH MAY

39:25 - OR MAY NOT ALSO FALL.

39:28 - INDEED TRUST CONTACTS YOU COULD

39:30 - ALSO. I

39:32 - ACTUALLY THAT THE GENERAL

39:34 - ASSEMBLY SO THE BROAD REACH OF

39:37 - THE CONSUMER PROTECTION LAW AND

39:39 - SAID.

39:40 - >>YOU DON'T NEED. AN ADDITIONAL

39:43 - ANY TRUST STATUE. IF

39:45 - THIS BEHAVIOR IS LARGELY

39:48 - COVERED BY THE CONSUMER

39:49 - PROTECTION LAW ANYWAY.

39:53 - I THINK THAT'S

39:54 - IS REASONABLE AN INTERPRETATION

39:56 - OF THE LEGISLATURE'S ACTIONS

39:58 - AND I THINK IT'S 8TH THIS

40:00 - BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE

40:01 - DID NOT PASS THE NAVY CROSS LAW

40:03 - THAT THAT SOMEHOW LIMITS THE

40:05 - SCOPE OF THE CONSUMER

40:06 - PROTECTION.

40:10 - >>VENTURES IN IT APPEARS THAT

40:13 - YOU'RE BACK ON

40:13 - THIS MATTER AS THE 2 BUSINESSES

40:16 - OPERATING TOGETHER. WHAT'S

40:18 - WRONG WITH THAT.

40:22 - >>ONLY DOES THAT

40:23 - THE IF THE OWNERS WERE NOT

40:25 - INFORMED THAT THEY WERE.

40:28 - THE 2 COMPANIES WE'RE DIVIDING

40:30 - UP THE TERROR WORRY AND IF

40:32 - WE'RE ARTIFICIALLY LOWERING.

40:35 - THE PRICE WHICH MEANS THIS

40:36 - COULD GET. HERE LEASES FURTHER

40:39 - FOR THAT. WE'LL HAVE

40:41 - A STRETCH.

40:42 - >>IS THERE ANY MORE DECEPTIVE

40:44 - AND BUSINESSES HAVING SOME WAS

40:46 - FILLED WITH

40:46 - GARY'S AT AND THERE'S ONE MONEY

40:49 - IS GOING THROUGH THE PIPELINE

40:50 - TO OTHER BUSINESS.

40:53 - >>I'M SO I COULD HEAR THE LESS

40:54 - FOR YOUR QUESTION.

40:56 - >>THE QUESTION I HAD WAS

40:58 - SO IT IN THE FORM OF BUSINESS

41:00 - ITS SUBSIDIARY OF A BUSINESS TO

41:02 - DO BUSINESS READ AND SOMEHOW

41:04 - THE MONEY

41:05 - IS BEING SHARED BETWEEN

41:07 - DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT

41:09 - YOUR KNOWLEDGE OR AS

41:11 - THE CONSUMER IS THAT ALSO

41:13 - DECEPTIVE.

41:16 - >>I GUESS IT WOULD DEPEND ON

41:17 - THE FACTS IN THIS CASE WE'RE

41:19 - DEALING WITH THE SECOND AMENDED

41:21 - COMPLAINT. THE COMMONWEALTH

41:23 - AS ALLEGED THAT THE TACTICS

41:25 - WERE DECEPTIVE. IT'S NOT THE

41:28 - QUESTION BEFORE THE COURT.

41:29 - WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT.

41:31 - >>AND WHAT ONCE THE SEPT THAT

41:32 - WHAT ARE YOU SHARING THAT THEY

41:34 - BURN THE JOINT VENTURE WITHOUT

41:36 - DARING WITH THEIR. LANDA.

41:41 - >>YES, THAT'S THAT'S LARGELY

41:43 - IT.

41:45 - >>AND AGAIN I ASK YOU

41:47 - WHAT WAS DECEPTIVE ABOUT THAT

41:48 - JUST THE FACT THAT THEY DIDN'T

41:50 - SAY THAT THEY WERE IN A JOINT

41:51 - VENTURE.

41:53 - >>WELL THEY DID IN. THEY DIDN'T

41:55 - DISCLOSE THAT. THE LAND OWNERS

41:58 - MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET A

41:59 - HIGHER PRICE AND THEN EXACTLY

42:00 - MORE. PETITION FOR WHAT THEY

42:03 - WERE WERE SOWN.

42:04 - >>BUT THAT THE INCOME THE BOND

42:06 - THE LANDOWNER TO RING

42:08 - WHY ARE AS TO THE BEARS WE KNOW

42:10 - THAT BURNED MORE THAN 2

42:11 - BUSINESSES. EXTRACTING

42:14 - MARCELLUS SHALE.

42:16 - >>SO IT'S IT'S OUR POSITION

42:18 - THAT IT VIOLATES THE CONSUMER

42:22 - PROTECTION LAW.

42:24 - IT'S A DECEPTIVE TRADE

42:25 - PRACTICE.

42:28 - >>YOU'RE NOT LYING PREMISES

42:29 - THAT THE LANDOWNER IS IGNORANT

42:31 - AS TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH

42:32 - THEIR LAND.

42:37 - >>THEY WOULD BE IGNORANT NO

42:38 - MATTER HOW SOPHISTICATED THEY

42:40 - OR REGARDING THE

42:42 - CONTRACTUAL RELATION. SHIPS THE

42:44 - QUEEN CHESAPEAKE IN ECUADOR TO.

42:47 - >>WELL IF YOU'RE SAYING A

42:48 - CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WHY

42:50 - WOULD IN THE REMEDY. THE BREACH

42:52 - OF CONTRACT AS OPPOSED TO NO

42:53 - UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICE FOR

42:55 - ANTITRUST.

42:59 - >>THE COMMONWEALTH BELIEVE THAT

43:00 - THIS WAS A WIDESPREAD

43:03 - PRACTICE AFFECTING THE PUBLIC.

43:05 - AND SO THE

43:06 - COMMONWEALTH'S REMEDY SOUZA

43:09 - CONSUMER

43:09 - PROTECTION LAW.

43:10 - >>THAT DOES NOT CARRY A GUN AND

43:11 - FINALLY HOW MANY LAND OWNERS.

43:13 - WE'RE FACT THAT WHEN YOU CALL

43:14 - THIS WIDESPREAD.

43:17 - IT'S INCUMBENT DON'T REMEMBER.

43:24 - MAYBE A DOCTOR THAT I CAN TELL

43:26 - YOU THAT. FOR NOW

43:27 - THANK YOU. THAT'S CORRECT.

43:30 - THANK YOU JUSTICE. MR. GOOD

43:32 - MORNING. MISTER OCCURRED.

43:35 - >>WOULD YOU AGREE WITH ME THAT

43:37 - THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAS THE

43:38 - POWER

43:40 - TO YOU TRADE IN COMMERCE

43:42 - WHATEVER DEFINITION IT CHOOSES

43:44 - AND IN FACT FOR EXAMPLE TO

43:45 - EXCLUDE. AYERS HAS US HERE.

43:49 - OR YOUR POSITION THAT NOAH

43:51 - WEBSTER GETS THE CALL.

43:54 - >>IT HAS THE POWER AND I DIDN'T

43:55 - HEAR THE LAST. WHERE THAT

43:57 - SECOND QUESTION.

43:59 - >>WE DON'T GO TO KNOW WEBSTER

44:00 - IF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY DEFINED

44:02 - IT RIGHT. YOU REALLY.

44:08 - I'M INTERESTED IN

44:09 - YOUR VIEW OF THE INTERACTION OF

44:10 - THE 2 CAUSES

44:11 - WITH IT. WHEN WE READ THIS

44:14 - DEFINITION OF TRADE AND

44:15 - COMMERCE.

44:17 - TO SAY THAT THE GENERAL

44:19 - ASSEMBLY WANTS US TO GIVE A

44:20 - DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF TRADE

44:23 - AND COMMERCE WHEN IT AFFECTS

44:24 - PENNSYLVANIANS. A 1000.

44:29 - I THINK IT'S A.

44:33 - IT'S

44:34 - A GENERAL.

44:39 - ENLARGEMENT OF

44:40 - THE MEANING OF THE FIRST IT WAS

44:43 - AND I THINK INDEED AN IN.

44:46 - THE FACT

44:47 - THAT THE PLAINTIFF WAS AN OUT

44:49 - OF STATE RESIDENTS. HERNDON 2.

44:53 - HOW YOU IT SLICED

44:55 - UTAH RECONSTRUCTION TO THE

44:57 - SECOND CAUSE.

44:59 - >>THAT IN DOES THAT MEAN MR.

45:00 - PARKER DOES THAT

45:03 - MEAN THAT IT'S A TAIL WAG THE

45:05 - DOG STUNT RATION WHERE

45:08 - SECOND CLAUSE IS THE GENERAL

45:10 - ASSEMBLY TELLING US OH NEVER

45:12 - MIND DISREGARD OR FIRST CLAUSE.

45:15 - IT'S JUST EVERYTHING.

45:18 - >>WELL I I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S

45:20 - EVERYTHING BUT IT CERTAINLY.

45:22 - IT'S IF IT DOESN'T MEAN

45:23 - ANYTHING THEN WHY DID THE

45:26 - LEGISLATURE DO IT WITH THAT

45:28 - LANGUAGE AND ALSO I

45:30 - WOULD ALSO DOUBLE BUT I CAN SAY

45:32 - ARE AN INITIAL POSITION IS THAT

45:35 - THE FIRST WAS COVERS THIS THAT

45:37 - WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SALE

45:39 - WHICH IS TRADE AND COMMERCE AND

45:42 - SO THAT'S A SPECIFIC ACTIVITY

45:44 - AND WHETHER SOME SELLER OR A

45:46 - BUYER. IT'S NOT WHERE ONCE YOU

45:48 - SAY. THIS IS TREATED IN

45:50 - COMMERCE.

45:54 - >>SO IS YOUR POSITION THEN THAT

45:55 - STATUTE IS AMBIGUOUS OR NOT IN

45:57 - BIG BUCKS.

46:01 - WELL I THINK.

46:04 - THE SECOND CLAUSE AS SOME

46:06 - IN BIG.

46:07 - >>BUT THEN GIVEN. IT

46:10 - WAS TRADITIONAL LIBERAL

46:12 - INTERPRETATION OF THAT ACT

46:14 - THAT'S LOW SHOULD BE

46:15 - INTERPRETED WHAT CONTENT.

46:19 - >>BUT WOULD YOU AGREE

46:20 - THAT YOU COULDN'T MAKE YOUR

46:22 - CASE TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

46:24 - RATHER THAN TO US.

46:29 - WE CERTAINLY.

46:31 - COULD MAKE THEIR CASE WE

46:33 - KNOW THING WE NEED TO BECAUSE

46:35 - WE THINK.

46:37 - THIS ACTIVITY QUALIFIES UNDER

46:38 - THE

46:39 - EXISTING LANGUAGE. LAST LAST

46:40 - QUESTION ON IT'S A FOLLOW-UP TO

46:42 - SOMETHING OPPOSING COUNSEL

46:45 - MENTIONED.

46:48 - WELL IF YOU

46:48 - PREVAIL HERE WHAT'S TO STOP

46:51 - DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AROUND THE

46:52 - COMMONWEALTH. FROM WIELDING

46:54 - THIS STATUTE IS A SWORD.

46:56 - IN ANY BUSINESS TRANSACTION ALL

47:00 - THAT ARE NOT FOND OF.

47:05 - IT'S

47:06 - JUST A AN ORDINARY BREACH OF

47:08 - CONTRACT. A SITUATION THAT

47:11 - DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE IT AND

47:14 - UNFAIR AND DECEPTIVE TRIP.

47:16 - THIS THIS YOU CAN TRACK

47:18 - TO PRODUCE. 1000 WIDGETS FOR

47:21 - SOMEBODY. IF YOU FALL SHORT

47:24 - THAT DOESN'T I MEAN IF YOU WERE

47:26 - TO SEPT IS IN WHAT YOU DID.

47:28 - AND THOUGH FOR EVERYTHING WOULD

47:30 - BE TO WHEN THE BREACH OF

47:31 - CONTRACT ACTION TO. YOU KNOW

47:34 - JANE WHAT YOU LOST. THIS IS

47:36 - THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

47:40 - THANK YOU MISTER THIS

47:43 - IS MONEY. I HAVE

47:46 - NO QUESTION. RIGHT NOW

47:47 - THANK YOU. OK, LET'S DROP KIRK

47:50 - YOU KNOW PRESENTED DOWN LOW.

47:54 - AND THEY

47:55 - END UP. DESPITE THE QUESTION

47:58 - FIRST. YOU CAN SHOW THE COURT.

48:01 - AS TO PETER IS THE CASE IS WELL

48:03 - AWARE THE LEFT.

48:05 - TRADE ISSUES. SO IF YOU HAD A

48:07 - WORD TO HIM. WHERE'S THE NATION

48:09 - WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. THANK

48:12 - YOU YOUR HONOR. THE THE UNFAIR

48:14 - TRADE PRACTICES AND CONSUMER

48:16 - PROTECTION MORE WAS ENACTED BY

48:18 - THE LEGISLATURE TO PROTECT THE

48:20 - CITIZENS OF FANS GETTING FROM

48:22 - UNFAIR AND DECEPTIVE PRACTICES

48:24 - IN THE MARKETPLACE CHESAPEAKE

48:27 - IN ANADARKO THROUGH THIS

48:28 - LAWSUIT WOULD LIMIT THE SCOPE

48:30 - OF THE LAW. SO THAT IT WOULD

48:31 - SERVE ONLY IT'S A CONSUMER

48:33 - PROTECTION LAW WITH LIMITED

48:35 - AUTHORITY AGAIN SELLERS AND

48:37 - THEY SENT OTHER KIND OF

48:39 - COMPLETELY WHICH CONSTITUTES IN

48:41 - UNFAIR AND DECEPTIVE TRADE

48:43 - PRACTICE. CHESAPEAKE IN

48:44 - ANADARKO LARGELY NEGATED THE

48:47 - AUTHORITY. YOU KNOW TO BRING

48:50 - ACTIONS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST

48:52 - TO PREVENT BUSINESSES. I MEAN

48:54 - GAUGING IN AN SEAR AND JUST WHO

48:56 - TRADE PRACTICES. THEIR POSITION

48:58 - IS CONTRARY NOT ONLY THE

49:00 - STATUTORY LANGUAGE OF THE LAW

49:02 - BUT THE LIBERAL INTERPRETATION

49:04 - WHICH HAS BEEN GIVEN THE LAW BY

49:06 - THIS COURT FOR THE PAST 50

49:08 - YEARS. CHESAPEAKE IN ANADARKO

49:11 - HAS TURNED UP AS ALLEGED.

49:13 - SHE'S AS THE 2 UNFAIR AND

49:16 - DECEPTIVE CONDUCT. FOR THE

49:17 - PURPOSES. THE OFFICE.

49:24 - THANKS TO

49:25 - ACCOUNT WITH THAT WE'LL

49:27 - CONCLUDE THE ARGUMENT IN THIS

49:28 - CASE AND DEBT.

49:31 - THEY SHOULD NOT. 5 MINUTES.

49:38 - >>STILL TRYING TO GET THE HANG

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50:02 - POLICY.

50:07 - >>THE NEXT TARGET IS IN THE

50:08 - MATTER OF NANCY KELLY RAYNER

50:10 - VERSUS NOT

50:11 - YOU DID. IT DIDN'T YOU.

50:14 - REPRESENT HIM. DRAW THIS YEAR.

50:18 - PERSONALLY

50:19 - YOU GET TO KNOW EACH BROUGHT

50:21 - EVEN WALK, REPRESENTING

50:23 - NATIONALLY. THE.

50:28 - >>I'M GOOD

50:29 - MORNING UP A TRAGEDY THAT HE

50:31 - ACTED TO PASS THE RECOVERY OF

50:33 - DAMAGES, INCLUDING EXPENSES.

50:37 - ATTORNEYS FEES AND PUNITIVE

50:38 - DAMAGES.

50:40 - WELL A PERSON WRONG TAKES PART

50:42 - IN THE TOURNAMENT.

50:44 - SHUN OR CONTINUATION OF THE

50:46 - PROCEEDINGS AGAINST NEITHER.

50:50 - THE COURT ALLOWED THE SECURE TO

50:51 - ADDRESS WAS THE APP AND

50:54 - LET THEM WENT ON TO WHOM MOTION

50:57 - FOR CONTEMPT.

51:00 - YES

51:00 - OPPOSING COUNSEL. THE CONTEXT

51:03 - OF A PENDING MEDICAL NOT

51:05 - ACTION. IN AMERICA.

51:11 - PLEASE THE COURT MY NAME

51:12 - IS ROBERT SHANER AND I ALONG

51:13 - WITH MY COLLEAGUE ABRAHAM

51:15 - RIDGE MANOR CO-COUNSEL

51:16 - KATHLEEN REBAR.

51:17 - >>AND PATRICK HEALY OF THE

51:18 - OTHER GROUP WHICH ARE

51:19 - REPRESENTING JUST A AND JUST

51:21 - MESS AND ASSOCIATES.

51:23 - WE ARE SPLITTING HER TIME PER

51:24 - COURT ORDER MISTER IN BACK WHO

51:26 - REPRESENTS THE OTHER OF PALIN'S

51:28 - WILL BE ADDRESSING THE ISSUE OF

51:29 - STANDING WHICH IS THE SECOND

51:31 - QUESTION. IN REVERSING THE

51:34 - TRIAL COURT ON THE WRONGFUL USE

51:36 - IS PROCEEDING AS PLANNED.

51:37 - THIS YEAR'S SUPERIOR COURT OF

51:39 - PENNSYLVANIA AND HAS SINCE

51:40 - EXPANDED THE POTENTIAL SCOPE A

51:42 - LIABILITY UNDER THE DRAGON

51:43 - V A AND IT IS AN OUTLIER

51:45 - DECISION IT'S A DECISION THAT

51:47 - CONSISTENT WITH OTHER HAS BEEN

51:49 - THE REESE'S THAT LOOKED AT

51:50 - THE ISSUE AND 3 REASONS THIS

51:53 - ARTICLE WHICH REVERSED

51:55 - THAT PART OF THE SPIRIT WHO ARE

51:57 - CIVIL PROCEEDING. THE FIRST

51:59 - REASON IS THAT IN MOTION

52:01 - AND THIS WAS A MOTION FOR

52:02 - SANCTIONS AND 40 TENT CONTAIN

52:04 - ANY PROMOTION DOES NOT

52:07 - CONSTITUTE CIVIL PROCEEDINGS IS

52:09 - TO FIND AND THE ACT AND AS

52:11 - OUR CASES AS IN MANY DECISIONS

52:13 - HAVE LOOKED AT

52:14 - THE ISSUE. WE SHOULD LOOK AT

52:16 - CIVIL PROCEEDINGS IN THAT

52:17 - CONTEXT AS A LOSS.

52:19 - IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRIAL

52:20 - COURT'S DECISION IN WHICH THE

52:22 - DEFINITION WELL THAT

52:24 - THE OTHER CASES THAT ADDRESS

52:25 - THESE ISSUES DIRECTLY ON POINT.

52:27 - EVERY OTHER CASE THAT'S LOOKED

52:28 - AT WHETHER WAS LE MARAIS

52:30 - INJECTIONS. A NEW MATTER.

52:33 - SERVICES PINA COURT HAS SAID

52:35 - NO THAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE

52:36 - CIVIL PROCEEDINGS. AND

52:39 - 2 TO RULE OTHERWISE WOULD BE

52:40 - INCONSISTENT WITH HELP

52:42 - PENNSYLVANIA HAS TO FIND IT AND

52:43 - WHAT THE CORRECT DEFINITION OF

52:45 - THE CIVIL PROCEEDINGS SHOULD BE

52:47 - THE SECOND REASON IS THE

52:48 - ORIGINAL NOT FUN

52:49 - OF ME. CONTAINED A PROVISION,

52:51 - 42 PC SA

52:53 - 8355 THAT DEALT WITH NOTIONS

52:56 - BEATINGS AND OTHER

52:56 - PAPERS I THIS HONORABLE COURT

52:59 - INACTIVE RULE 1023 IN ESSENCE

53:02 - REPEAL THAT PART OF THE ACT

53:03 - AND THE POINT IS IF IN FACT IT

53:06 - REPEALED THAT WE SHOULD BE

53:07 - GOVERNED BY 1023.

53:09 - THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE

53:10 - MECHANISM BY WHICH WE SHOULD

53:11 - LOOK AT THE TENSION MOTION FOR

53:13 - SANCTIONS OR THE DENIAL OF THE

53:14 - MOTION SANCTIONS WHO

53:16 - 1023 HAS A MECHANISM WE

53:18 - CROSSED MOVE IT'S NOT THAT MISS

53:20 - RANGER HERE DID NOT HAVE BEEN

53:21 - GRANTED. SHE CHOSE. AND THE 3RD

53:24 - REASON

53:25 - IS THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC POLICY

53:27 - SHIFT. DO WE WANT TRIAL COURTS

53:30 - AND THEIR AUTHORITY TO GOVERN.

53:32 - SHE'S LIKE SANCTIONS INTACT.

53:34 - DO WE WANT THEM SECOND GUEST IN

53:35 - THE MIDDLE OF THE CASE. BUT IT

53:37 - ULTIMATELY MAY NOT BE A

53:38 - PREVAILING PART. DO WE WANT A

53:41 - FLOODGATE DRAG MY CASES BASED

53:43 - ON INDIVIDUAL

53:44 - MOTIONS MEETINGS THINGS THAT

53:46 - ARE SHOULD BE PROPERLY AND

53:47 - APPROPRIATELY GOVERNED BY 23

53:49 - AND FOR THAT REASON WE

53:50 - RESPECTFULLY REQUEST. THIS

53:52 - HONORABLE COURT REVERSED THE

53:54 - SPIRIT WITH RESPECT TO WON'T

53:55 - USE SHOOTINGS.

53:57 - >>THANK IT WILL BECOME THE

53:59 - QUESTION OR YES, THIS TIME.

54:03 - >>THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE, I

54:04 - HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

54:07 - >>THANK YOU JUSTICE TANI A.

54:09 - >>I MEAN THE GOOD MORNING I I

54:12 - I'M I'M A LITTLE BIT.

54:15 - >>FIRST OF ALL THE SUPERIOR

54:16 - COURTS. I DECISION

54:18 - BY I.

54:19 - >>YEAH I JUDGE I TAKE 40 ALI

54:22 - WAS

54:22 - VERY CIRCUMSCRIBED I IN ITS

54:25 - SIDE IN ITS REACH ON.

54:28 - IT REALLY CAME TO THE

54:29 - CONCLUSION THAT WHAT HAPPENED

54:31 - HERE WAYS I CAN TO ON PAR WITH

54:34 - ON A CIVIL ACTION,

54:37 - I AND I'M JUST

54:39 - WONDERING ON FROM A

54:42 - STATUTORY BASIS WHERE DO YOU

54:44 - GET THE KNOW CAN NEXT CIVIL

54:46 - PROCEEDING, ONLY MEANS

54:48 - SEVERAL ACTION WHERE THE STATUE

54:52 - IS NOT USE THAT PHRASE AND THEN

54:54 - SECONDLY.

54:56 - AND THIS IS INDISTINGUISHABLE

54:58 - FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. FROM A

55:01 - CIVIL ACTION, NOT ONLY BECAUSE

55:04 - OF THE HEARING.

55:05 - THE AWARD. BUT THE FACT THAT

55:07 - THERE WAS ACTUALLY

55:08 - AN EXECUTION. ACTION ON THIS

55:12 - AWARD

55:12 - AND GARNISHMENT BANK ACCOUNTS A

55:16 - LIEN ON HOME

55:19 - AND SO I'M JUST A FROM ME ON A

55:21 - PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE HAVING A

55:23 - HARD TIME

55:25 - GRAPPLING WITH THE NOTION THAT

55:26 - THIS IS NOT IN E A CIVIL

55:29 - PROCEEDING.

55:32 - PART OF ITS

55:33 - CIVIL PROCEEDING NO ONE WOULD

55:34 - DISPUTE THAT IT'S NOT PART OF

55:36 - THE CIVIL PROCEEDING, BUT IT'S

55:37 - NOT.

55:37 - >>A CIVIL PROCEEDING IN ITS

55:39 - ENTIRETY WHERE IT WAS ALL

55:41 - PLAINTIFFS WHO COMMENCED AN

55:42 - ACTION AGAINST THE DEFENDANT.

55:44 - AND ULTIMATELY ONE OF THE

55:46 - PARTY'S PREVAIL, I THINK

55:47 - INCLUSION OF THE CASE AND WAS

55:48 - ABLE TO BRING

55:50 - A WRONGFUL USE CIVIL

55:51 - PROCEEDINGS CLAIM UNDER THE

55:52 - DRAGON IDEA. I

55:55 - >>YOUR ANSWER YOUR ANSWERS SAID

55:57 - WHAT'S THE BUNNY IN HALF.

55:59 - I MEAN BECAUSE SAY IF YOU WANT

56:00 - TO USE YOU ARE NOW IT'S I'M

56:03 - TURNING RAIN HERE WOULD

56:04 - BE THAT WHEN WOULD BE THE PLANE

56:07 - GETS IN THE TAKING ANY ACTUALLY

56:09 - WEIGHS A DEFENDANT I IN THE

56:13 - PROCEEDING.

56:14 - AND SO I MEAN IF IF YOU LOOK TO

56:17 - I YOU KNOW WHY THE APPARENT

56:19 - REASON FOR TAKING IDEA WHY

56:22 - WASTE TOO I

56:23 - I PREVENT OR DISCOURAGE.

56:26 - I'M PROCEEDINGS THAT HAD NO

56:28 - BASIS ON IN THE LAW OR FACT AND

56:31 - I AND I EXPRESS NO JUDGMENT AND

56:34 - THAT YEAH

56:36 - I'M HAVING A HARD TIME

56:37 - UNDERSTANDING WHY THIS DOESN'T

56:39 - FALL WITHIN THAT REAL.

56:43 - >>BECAUSE IF IN

56:44 - FACT IT WAS AN INDIVIDUAL

56:46 - REQUEST FOR SANCTIONS AND

56:47 - CONTENT AS PART OF A POST TRIAL

56:49 - MOTIONS IT ONLY GOT SEPARATED

56:51 - OUT AND WAS CONSIDERED BECAUSE

56:53 - THE TRIAL COURT WANTED TO

56:55 - ALLOW. THE APPEAL

56:57 - FROM THE TRIAL COURT'S DECISION

56:59 - ON THE DENIAL OR THE GRANT OF

57:01 - THE NEW TRIAL

57:02 - TO PROCEED. OTHERWISE IT WOULD

57:04 - NOT HAVE TAKEN ON WHAT YOU'RE

57:06 - DESCRIBING AS THE SEPARATE

57:08 - PROCESS. THERE'S NO QUESTION

57:10 - THE TRIAL COURT HANDLED IN

57:11 - THAT MANNER. BUT THAT IN AND OF

57:13 - ITSELF DOES NOT MAKE IT A

57:15 - SEPARATE CIVIL PROCEEDING WITH

57:17 - A PLAINTIFF AND DEFENDANT IN

57:18 - FACT, MS. RAYNER ALONG WITH

57:20 - HER CLIENTS. WE'RE ACTUALLY AND

57:23 - THE PERSON WHO WAS THE WITNESS

57:25 - WHO IS SUBJECT TO THE ELIMINATE

57:27 - ORDER. WE'RE ALL RESPONDENTS IN

57:29 - THAT PROCEEDING AND THAT THEY

57:32 - WERE NOT SEPARATE. DEFENSE THEY

57:34 - WERE

57:34 - NOT SUED. THEY WERE RESPONDENTS

57:37 - AND THEY WERE PART AND PARCEL

57:38 - TO THE CLAIMS ITSELF.

57:40 - THEY WERE NOT SEPARATE PLANES

57:41 - AND I WOULD SAY YOUR HONOR IT'S

57:43 - NO DIFFERENT. AND THERE ARE

57:44 - SUPERIOR COURT DECISIONS.

57:46 - ONE BY JUSTICE MONDAY THAT SAYS

57:48 - IN FACT IF YOU WENT ON A

57:50 - PARTICULAR CLAIM THAT DOESN'T

57:51 - GIVE YOU DRAGGING THAT YEAH I

57:52 - BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO WIN IN THE

57:54 - ENTIRE CASE AND THAT IS HOW

57:55 - IT'S BEEN INTERPRETED

57:57 - AND I UNDERSTAND WITH THE

57:58 - SPIRIT COURT SAID AND A MOTION

58:00 - FOR SANCTIONS BALL DIFFERENT NO

58:02 - QUESTION. MOTION FOR SANCTIONS

58:04 - ARE GOVERNED BY

58:06 - 2 STATUTES, 42 P S P A C S A

58:09 - 25 '03 AND THE RULE THAT IS

58:11 - QUITE AN ACTIVE WILL 1023.

58:14 - THAT IS THE MECHANISM BY WHICH

58:16 - YOU SEEK SANCTIONS AND YOU CAN

58:17 - IN FACT HOW TO

58:18 - REQUEST SANCTIONS. IF IN

58:21 - FACT YOU BELIEVE THAT THE

58:22 - MOTION

58:24 - IT'S IN FROM LITIGATION IS

58:25 - WITHIN THE CASE ITSELF, I'M NOT

58:27 - A SEPARATE PROCEEDING. THANK

58:29 - YOU. I THINK YOU GUESS DOCTOR

58:32 - T. NO QUESTIONS AT

58:34 - THIS TIME. WE JUST LACKED.

58:38 - THANK YOU TO DO JUST THIS

58:39 - MORNING COUNCIL BECAUSE

58:43 - >>AS OUR PRESIDENT DEMAND A PER

58:45 - SE.

58:46 - PER SE RULE FOR INTER PARTY OR

58:49 - A PERSON DEFINITION OF

58:51 - CIVIL PROCEEDING. OR.

58:55 - OR IS THERE ROB SOMETHING TO BE

58:57 - SAID OR IN THE GOM

59:00 - I GUESS WALKS LIKE A DUCK

59:01 - QUACKS LIKE A DUCK APPROACH ARE

59:05 - ORDERED.

59:07 - >>WELL I THINK THE CONCERN

59:08 - WITH THE SUPERIOR COURT AND I

59:10 - UNDERSTAND THE LOSS OF CONDUCT

59:11 - ON SECOND THOUGHT I JUST THINK

59:13 - THAT THAT THEY CAME OUT ON THE

59:15 - WRONG END OF THE WAY. THE ONLY

59:17 - CASES THAT HAVE LOOKED AT THE

59:18 - ISSUE HAD DECIDED. THIS

59:20 - IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT A

59:22 - PART OF THE CASE HAS BEEN

59:23 - LOOKED AT AND THAT'S THE POINT

59:25 - IS A PRELIMINARY INJECTIONS OR

59:26 - I MATTER.

59:30 - YOU KNOW AS

59:31 - A SUBPOENA. WE UNDERSTAND THAT

59:33 - CAN TAKE ON A PART AND PARCEL

59:35 - OF A CIVIL PROCEEDING,

59:36 - BUT THE WAY THE COURTS HAVE

59:37 - ALWAYS INTERPRET IT IS IT'S THE

59:39 - ENTIRETY OF THE

59:40 - PERHAPS WE DO NEED A DEFINITION

59:42 - FROM THIS COURT TO CLARIFY THIS

59:44 - POINT SO THAT WE DON'T OPEN THE

59:45 - FLOODGATES FOR ACTIONS OF

59:47 - DRAGON ANY BASED THEY SHOULD BE

59:49 - FOLLOWING 1023.

59:51 - >>WHAT ABOUT THE CLAIM FALSE

59:52 - CLAIM OF.

59:55 - YOU HAVE THAT SORT OF

59:56 - THING IN HER IN HER PLAYERS, I

59:58 - JUST TRYING TO TEST THE LIMITS

59:59 - 130 OF

01:00 - 01.190 YOUR DEFINITION.

01:00 - 03.290 >>ABSOLUTELY BOTH CAMPAIGNS

01:00 - 04.700 CERTAINLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE A

01:00 - 06.630 COUNTERCLAIM CAN BE BROUGHT UP

01:00 - 08.700 A COUNTERCLAIM COULD HAVE THE

01:00 - 10.930 EFFECT OF A SEPARATE ACTION.

01:00 - 12.160 BUT THE REALITY IN A

01:00 - 14.500 COUNTERCLAIM AS YOU PREVAIL,

01:00 - 15.910 YOU HAVE TO PREVAIL ON BOAT

01:00 - 17.060 RIGHT YOU HAVE TO PREVAIL ON

01:00 - 18.390 THE PLANE AND HEAT AND YOU HAVE

01:00 - 20.170 TO PREVAIL POTENTIALLY ON THE

01:00 - 20.850 COUNTER CLAIM

01:00 - 23.070 AND WHAT ME AND THE COMPANY AND

01:00 - 25.000 I HAVE LITIGATED CASES WHERE

01:00 - 26.320 THE CASE AND SHE DOES GO ON IN

01:00 - 28.080 YOUR HOME LELAND YEE THE AGENT

01:00 - 29.600 CLAIMS SO THE

01:00 - 31.770 PLAY DID AND THAT THE DEFENDANT

01:00 - 33.080 BE I MEAN THE PLAINTIFF THE

01:00 - 34.120 PRIOR PLANT BECOMES

01:00 - 36.290 THE DEFENDANT AND REVERSE AND

01:00 - 38.570 SO A COUNTERCLAIM IS A SEPARATE

01:00 - 40.070 CAUSE OF ACTION CAN BE

01:00 - 42.300 INITIATED A COUNTERCLAIM

01:00 - 43.870 OBVIOUSLY TAKEN PLACE

01:00 - 45.450 A CAUSE OF ACTION AND CAN BE

01:00 - 46.830 TRIED SEPARATELY DOESN'T HAVE

01:00 - 47.620 TO BE BROUGHT ART

01:00 - 48.580 PARTIAL FACE.

01:00 - 50.600 >>IF I MAKE ONE MORE THING ON

01:00 - 52.860 ONE ABOUT OR LOOK YES, WHAT

01:00 - 54.760 WOULD YOU SUGGEST TO US.

01:00 - 59.290 BY WAY OF INTERPRETING THE

01:00 - 02.380 CURIOUS SECTION. 1, 0, 2, OF

01:01 - 03.380 TITLE, 42.

01:01 - 08.010 SPECIFICALLY TO THE DEFINITION

01:01 - 09.330 THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY GET US

01:01 - 13.000 THERE SEATING. ENDING WITH

01:01 - 14.990 THE WORDS, BUT THE TERM DOES

01:01 - 17.210 AND I QUOTE BUT THE TERM DOES

01:01 - 20.640 NOT INCLUDE. AN ACTION OR AN

01:01 - 21.150 APPEAL.

01:01 - 24.570 I DON'T

01:01 - 26.380 LIKE AN NECESSARILY INTERPRET

01:01 - 27.850 THAT TO WHAT I CAN SAY ABOUT

01:01 - 28.620 EMOTIONS.

01:01 - 30.390 >>NOBODY HERE IS TELLING YOU

01:01 - 31.950 THAT EMOTION IS NOT PART.

01:01 - 34.460 OPRAH C OKAY, IT IS PART OF

01:01 - 36.170 PROCEEDING. BUT IS IT WHAT THE

01:01 - 38.200 DRIVING ANY ACT INTENDED

01:01 - 39.750 BY CIVIL PROCEEDINGS

01:01 - 41.280 TERMINATING IN THEIR FAVOR I

01:01 - 42.260 WOULD JUST POINT OUT

01:01 - 44.220 THE RISK THAT YOU RUN IS

01:01 - 46.490 THAT POTENTIALLY WE NEED PARTY

01:01 - 47.830 ON THE CALL OF PREVAILING

01:01 - 49.120 PARTY, THE WINNING PARTY IN A

01:01 - 51.220 MOTION MAY ULTIMATELY NOT BE

01:01 - 52.830 THE PREVAILING PARTY INDICATES

01:01 - 54.750 WHICH THEN CREATES THIS HUGE

01:01 - 56.340 INCONSISTENCY IN HURST, THE

01:01 - 58.290 DRAGON AREA WHICH AGAIN I DON'T

01:01 - 00.130 REPEAT MYSELF I COME BACK TO

01:02 - 01.640 THIS IS WHY THIS HONORABLE

01:02 - 02.520 COURT OBLIGATED

01:02 - 05.240 1023. FOR THIS REASON IT HAS A

01:02 - 07.160 MECHANISM IN A SAFE HARBOR TO

01:02 - 08.920 DO WITH WHAT SOME PARTY THEY

01:02 - 10.150 CONSIDER TO BE A FRIVOLOUS

01:02 - 12.380 MOTION CRIME THAT E THANK YOU.

01:02 - 13.900 THANK YOU MR.

01:02 - 17.400 WE'RE NOW GOING INTO YES, YOU

01:02 - 18.570 BUY YOUR TIME OF NEED.

01:02 - 21.140 PIEDMONT I'VE

01:02 - 23.510 NOT GOOD. WE COULD ASK YOU IF

01:02 - 23.960 YOU HAD

01:02 - 28.160 YOU TO MAKE A BRIEF ARGUMENT OF

01:02 - 29.150 THEM WILL COMMENCE THE

01:02 - 33.440 QUESTION. MAKES THIS COURT AND

01:02 - 35.090 BROUGHT IT BACK AND

01:02 - 37.110 I REPRESENT THE VERDICT WINNER

01:02 - 39.730 BELOW ROSLYN SUCH AND

01:02 - 41.880 THE CLAIRE'S AND DEFENDANTS IN

01:02 - 44.130 THE CASE. MAKE USE

01:02 - 46.660 OF COURT. I WANT TO GO RIGHT

01:02 - 47.130 TO.

01:02 - 49.890 THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN OF

01:02 - 52.870 THE QUESTION. THAT JUST ON A

01:02 - 56.260 U.S. MISTER TENET. EVEN IF YOU

01:02 - 56.840 ACCEPT.

01:02 - 02.100 SO THE RECORDS YOU. THIS WAS A

01:03 - 04.200 CIVIL PROCEEDING. THERE'S A

01:03 - 06.860 STATUTORY REQUIREMENT. YOU

01:03 - 10.060 MUST PREVAIL ON ALL CLAIMS.

01:03 - 11.670 I JUST AS

01:03 - 13.880 MONDAY WHEN SHE WAS A IN THE

01:03 - 14.680 SUPERIOR COURT

01:03 - 17.480 ROAD AGAIN CLASSY VERSUS STARK

01:03 - 19.930 74 LAND 3RD TO 42.

01:03 - 22.590 2 TRILLION 13 BILLION IN WHICH

01:03 - 25.330 SHE CLEARLY, AND THAT'S YOU YOU

01:03 - 26.930 HAVE TO WEIGH ALL CLAIMS

01:03 - 30.120 AGAINST. IN THIS CASE. IT'S

01:03 - 32.110 RAIN OR AND HER FIRM. WE'RE

01:03 - 33.930 SANCTION SEPARATELY FROM THE

01:03 - 35.960 SANCTIONS THAT THIS CASE IS ALL

01:03 - 36.200 THIS.

01:03 - 38.760 SHE WAS DISQUALIFIED FROM

01:03 - 40.590 FURTHER PROCEEDING IN THE CASE.

01:03 - 42.440 AND BOTH SHE AND HER FIRM

01:03 - 45.800 WHERE FI. A LITTLE UNDER $2000

01:03 - 48.490 FOR A NIGHT OUT. SO SHE DID SHE

01:03 - 50.630 IS NOT AND PREVAILING PARTY

01:03 - 53.070 EVEN LOOK AT THE CASE WHERE THE

01:03 - 55.440 SPIRIT QUICK 8. HOWEVER THE WAY

01:03 - 57.060 THE SPIRIT QUICK LOOK AT THIS

01:03 - 00.020 CASE IGNORED I THINK QUESTION

01:04 - 01.690 FROM THIS COURT IN ORANGE

01:04 - 04.830 VS O'MALLEY. 1996 DECISION OF

01:04 - 06.010 THIS COURT RECORD

01:04 - 07.930 STATED THAT ONE WHO HAS A

01:04 - 10.150 GENERAL RULE, ONE WAS NOT

01:04 - 11.510 ACCORDING TO THE UNDERLYING

01:04 - 11.950 ACTION

01:04 - 14.780 CANNOT SUE 100 REGULATED AND IT

01:04 - 17.900 WAS A VERY NARROW BUT OTHER

01:04 - 19.170 THAN THAT IT'S A BRIGHT LINE

01:04 - 20.860 TEST. IT ISN'T JUST

01:04 - 24.700 TIME AND HAS BEEN EXCEPT IN

01:04 - 27.420 THIS CASE IN A APPLIED IN EVERY

01:04 - 29.730 OTHER CASE. THANK YOU RIGHT

01:04 - 31.020 WE'RE GOING TO HEAR IT, THANK

01:04 - 33.130 YOU. I LIKE WE'RE GOING TO.

01:04 - 34.430 AND

01:04 - 36.950 IT'S A ANY OF THE JUSTICES ARE

01:04 - 38.810 QUESTIONS BEGINNING AS I SAID

01:04 - 39.390 WITH SAID.

01:04 - 42.680 SHE WAS MY NEW NAME YOU JUST GO

01:04 - 42.980 OUT.

01:04 - 46.080 CITATION TO

01:04 - 48.860 MY CAN ASK ME QUESTIONS,

01:04 - 49.410 THANKS.

01:04 - 52.310 >>HE JUST HAS ONE DAY. YES,

01:04 - 53.070 JUST THERE.

01:04 - 56.810 COUNCIL I HAVE A QUESTION E

01:04 - 59.910 YOU HEARKEN BACK TO THE OTHER

01:04 - 01.130 COLLATERAL PROCEEDING.

01:05 - 03.270 >>I INVOLVING THE LETTER TO THE

01:05 - 06.050 HOSPITAL. WHAT ABOUT THE FACT

01:05 - 08.010 THAT YOUR CLIENT. WHAT A NEW

01:05 - 09.790 TRIAL. HOW DOES

01:05 - 12.250 THAT IMPACT THE QUESTION

01:05 - 13.670 OF WEATHER.

01:05 - 17.730 IT WAS A WHEN AND WHETHER THE

01:05 - 19.180 OTHER SIDE PREVAILED IN THIS

01:05 - 19.550 CASE.

01:05 - 22.050 >>YOU ARE

01:05 - 23.900 NO QUESTION THAT RONALD SITES,

01:05 - 25.560 THEY'LL ULTIMATELY IN THE CASE

01:05 - 27.580 YOU GOT I WAS SHE WON THE FIRST

01:05 - 28.280 CASE TOO.

01:05 - 30.310 BUT IT WAS INADEQUATE AND YOU

01:05 - 32.010 BECAUSE OF THE OF THE ISSUE

01:05 - 33.650 THAT THE BOARD IS HERE.

01:05 - 36.500 BUT SHE IS THE ULTIMATE MAILING

01:05 - 36.970 PARTY IN

01:05 - 39.140 THIS CASE AND AND THERE'S NO

01:05 - 40.330 QUESTION ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU

01:05 - 41.650 LOOK AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT

01:05 - 42.420 OF THE UNDERLYING

01:05 - 44.390 A MEDICAL NOW I GUESS MY

01:05 - 46.570 QUESTION IS NO SPECIFIC WHY AND

01:05 - 47.820 AND I'M HE WILL BE MISSING

01:05 - 48.160 SOMETHING.

01:05 - 50.930 >>WHY IS MS. RADNER THE

01:05 - 53.680 PREVAILING PARTY ON THE TRAIN.

01:05 - 56.390 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN SHE IS

01:05 - 57.060 TRUE SHE

01:05 - 57.840 GOT THE.

01:05 - 00.890 >>WARD OF VIE FOR CONTEMPT

01:06 - 01.700 VACATED.

01:06 - 02.300 >>BUT

01:06 - 04.520 SHE DID. BUT WHEN IT KICKS IN

01:06 - 06.430 THAT SAME PROCEEDING NEUTRALITY

01:06 - 07.830 LISTEN THIS IS SOMETHING.

01:06 - 10.500 >>BUT IF YOU ARE JUST BELOW ME

01:06 - 12.350 OF A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CASE

01:06 - 14.260 THE JUDGE JUST MONEY DECIDED.

01:06 - 16.710 THERE WAS A CASE IN WHICH A

01:06 - 19.080 DEFAMATION CLAIM WAS WROUGHT BY

01:06 - 20.490 THE BY THE PLAINTIFF IN THE

01:06 - 22.770 UNDERLYING CASE. THE PLAINTIFF

01:06 - 26.090 WITHDREW THAT CLAIM AND PUT IN

01:06 - 27.030 6 DIFFERENT.

01:06 - 29.790 ALLEGATIONS OF OF CLAIMS

01:06 - 30.530 AGAINST THE.

01:06 - 33.400 PARTY WHO BECAME THE LATEST

01:06 - 34.700 FROM THE DRAGON ANY CASE.

01:06 - 37.650 WHEN CASEY WHAT UNDERGROUND IN

01:06 - 38.660 A MINE,

01:06 - 40.610 HE SAID NO YOU'VE GOT TO WIN OR

01:06 - 42.190 YOUR CLAIM YOU CAN'T JUST WIN

01:06 - 44.240 ONE CLAY. YOU HAVE TO BE THE

01:06 - 46.110 PREVAILING PARTY AND ALL CLAIMS

01:06 - 46.690 AND THAT IS

01:06 - 48.640 THE WAY ALTHOUGH LOWER COURTS

01:06 - 51.240 HAVE INTERPRETED. I DID WRITE

01:06 - 52.800 IN A CASE AND THE STATUTORY

01:06 - 55.690 REQUIREMENT OF REALLY PARTY AND

01:06 - 57.110 BECAUSE IN THIS CASE.

01:06 - 59.680 MISS RAIN OR AT HER FOR MORE

01:06 - 01.920 SANCTIONS. ON OTHER CONTENT

01:07 - 02.910 CLAIMS

01:07 - 06.180 MADE BY THESE ARE THE BAD NEWS

01:07 - 07.960 IF YOU IF YOU PREVAIL BEFORE

01:07 - 09.240 THIS COURT TODAY ARE YOU GOING

01:07 - 10.290 TO TURN AROUND AND SELL A

01:07 - 12.090 DRAGON ANY ACT AGAINST THE MS.

01:07 - 12.500 RAYNER.

01:07 - 14.210 >>ARE WE TRYING TO DO IN THIS

01:07 - 14.900 CASE FOR THE NEXT

01:07 - 15.640 40 YEARS.

01:07 - 17.690 >>YOU'RE I'VE NEVER FILED A

01:07 - 21.150 UH HUH AT THIS POINT IN MY

01:07 - 24.090 LIFE, I DON'T THANKS TO YOU OR

01:07 - 25.140 I GUESS IS TIED.

01:07 - 28.640 >>I HAVE NO

01:07 - 30.790 QUESTIONS CHIEF. THIS IS

01:07 - 33.840 FROM HERE. YOU COUNSEL I MEAN

01:07 - 35.700 YOU TRY ONE MORE TIME ON.

01:07 - 36.820 >>IT SAID NO,

01:07 - 39.430 I ARE GOAL HERE

01:07 - 42.510 TO I DU N INTERPRETATION OF THE

01:07 - 44.730 STATUTE THAT USES THE PHRASE

01:07 - 46.320 CIVIL PROCEEDINGS.

01:07 - 48.900 >>IT IS NOT A STATUTE THAT USES

01:07 - 51.070 THE PHRASE CIVIL ACTION.

01:07 - 55.120 AND IN THAT CLIMB TAX ON HOW DO

01:07 - 55.840 WE YEAH

01:07 - 57.560 FROM THE USE OF THE

01:07 - 59.990 PHRASE BY THE LEGISLATURE OF

01:07 - 02.120 CIVIL PROCEEDING TO YOUR

01:08 - 02.760 POSITION

01:08 - 06.400 THAT IS REQUIRES ON A COMPLAINT

01:08 - 07.250 I E A

01:08 - 10.650 CIVIL ACTION. IN ORDER TO

01:08 - 13.440 TRIGGER ANY POTENTIAL BE

01:08 - 14.320 BREAKING ANY A.

01:08 - 18.070 >>SINCE THE KIND OF ANY ACT

01:08 - 20.900 WAS ENACTED THAT HAS UNTIL

01:08 - 23.150 THIS CASE THAT HAS BEEN THE WAY

01:08 - 24.110 IN WHICH IT

01:08 - 26.300 HAS BEEN. IN TERMS OF THE

01:08 - 28.040 REASONS THAT MISTER INTERSTATE

01:08 - 29.880 I WOULD ALSO SAY THERE'S NO

01:08 - 31.860 CASE LIKE BY IN THIS

01:08 - 33.520 COMMONWEALTH. I.

01:08 - 37.070 INTERVIEW WAY THE SUPERIOR

01:08 - 39.120 COURT IT. IN FACT WHEN YOU LOOK

01:08 - 40.780 NATIONWIDE SEARCH. A

01:08 - 43.050 MALICIOUS PROSECUTION. YOU FIND

01:08 - 46.030 NO CASE THE WAGE ANY COURT HAS

01:08 - 48.820 EVER HELD. INTRA.

01:08 - 51.130 MOTION

01:08 - 51.960 FOR CONTENT.

01:08 - 55.750 SURE SANCTIONS SATISFIES THE

01:08 - 59.560 REQUIREMENT AND BACK TO YOU WAS

01:08 - 02.060 IN CASE WHICH IS CITED THE

01:09 - 04.300 AND THE IN THE MESS

01:09 - 06.060 OF DEBRIS. L WAS A CASE IN

01:09 - 07.380 WHICH A CALIFORNIA COURT.

01:09 - 07.930 THE

01:09 - 11.220 CIVIC LEE CRITICIZED A AND B

01:09 - 13.200 NOT THE WAY IN WHICH WE

01:09 - 14.510 SHOULD BE APPROACHING SHOULD BE

01:09 - 16.720 APPROACHING IT HAS REALLY PARTY

01:09 - 17.220 IN THE

01:09 - 19.810 UNDERLYING LITIGATION AND IN IN

01:09 - 21.360 THE CASE OF ROSEN VERSUS

01:09 - 22.710 AMERICAN BANK YOU REALLY HAD

01:09 - 23.730 THE SAME THING YOU'RE AN

01:09 - 26.050 INSULAR PROCEEDING AGAINST PAUL

01:09 - 28.540 ROSEN, A LAWYER AND IN THAT

01:09 - 29.360 CASE.

01:09 - 32.360 THE COURT SAID NO YOU CAN'T BE

01:09 - 34.370 A DRAG ON ANY PLAYER BECAUSE

01:09 - 35.570 YOU ARE NOT A PARTY, YOU KNOW

01:09 - 37.510 THE LYING ACTION IN POLASKI

01:09 - 38.580 VERSUS MARCO

01:09 - 39.120 YOUR HONOR.

01:09 - 42.280 >>YEAH, I'M AWARE OF THE CASE

01:09 - 42.820 LAW BY.

01:09 - 45.780 >>I DIDN'T NEED ME.

01:09 - 48.970 >>THE ESSENCE OF WHAT

01:09 - 51.320 HAPPENED HERE. IT'S VERY HARD

01:09 - 52.870 TO DISTINGUISH FROM WHAT WOULD

01:09 - 55.900 OCCUR IN A QUOTE UNQUOTE CIVIL

01:09 - 57.490 ACTION AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, I

01:09 - 59.110 MEAN THERE IS NOT ONLY 3 DAY

01:09 - 01.700 TRIAL. MANY AWARD A MILLION

01:10 - 02.350 DOLLARS

01:10 - 05.680 AND THEN EXECUTION IMAD WARD.

01:10 - 06.740 >>ON.

01:10 - 09.400 >>WHAT WHAT DISTINGUISHES WHAT

01:10 - 11.000 HAPPENED HERE IN

01:10 - 13.040 REALITY FROM WHAT HAPPENS IN A

01:10 - 13.780 SENATE LAST.

01:10 - 16.660 >>I WAS I WOULD SUBMIT THAT IT

01:10 - 19.080 WAS A MOTION FOR SANCTIONS AND

01:10 - 22.200 OR CONTENT. IS NOT DIFFERENT

01:10 - 24.400 THAN ANY OTHER. A GARDEN

01:10 - 26.340 VARIETY MOTION FOR SANCTIONS.

01:10 - 28.660 YOU WOULD BE GIVING STANDING

01:10 - 31.050 TO ANY LAWYER

01:10 - 33.910 OR PARTY WHO WINS A SANCTION

01:10 - 35.730 MOTION TO THEN TURN AROUND AND

01:10 - 38.590 BRING BRIAN A AND I WOULD POINT

01:10 - 40.620 OUT THAT IN THIS CASE,

01:10 - 42.140 YOUR HONOR. THE

01:10 - 44.490 DOCTOR GELLER WHO IS THE

01:10 - 46.190 DEFENDANT IN THE CASE AN TO END

01:10 - 48.080 WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE 3RD

01:10 - 51.080 OF THE VERDICT IN THIS CASE WAS

01:10 - 52.800 RESPONDING IN THE CONTENT TO

01:10 - 54.770 SEE. DOCTOR YELLER COULD HAVE

01:10 - 56.310 BEEN A PLANE HAS EASILY EASILY

01:10 - 56.640 AS YOU'RE

01:10 - 58.820 A NERD AND BECAUSE HE KNEW

01:10 - 00.990 THERE WAS NO THE IN HIS CASE HE

01:11 - 02.350 WANTED A TRIAL RUN LOW.

01:11 - 05.640 AND AND IF YOU EXPAND THE REACH

01:11 - 07.840 OF THIS LAW THAT WAY YOU'RE

01:11 - 10.080 GOING TO HAVE CASE AFTER CASE

01:11 - 12.300 AFTER CASE. ALL WITHIN THE

01:11 - 14.540 INSULAR PROCEEDINGS OF A LARGER

01:11 - 17.150 CASE. WE'RE PLAINTIFF IN THE

01:11 - 19.250 ANCILLARY PROCEEDING, RYAN ANY

01:11 - 21.870 CASE. THEY NEED TO LOSE IN THE

01:11 - 23.580 ULTIMATELY LARGE CASE WHICH I

01:11 - 25.530 DON'T THINK GET THIS A PAID BY

01:11 - 27.020 THE STATUTE FOR REQUIRE MONEY

01:11 - 28.760 BE A PREVAILING PARTY.

01:11 - 29.830 >>OK THANK YOU.

01:11 - 31.540 THANK YOU.

01:11 - 33.420 >>THANKS ED TO BOTH COUNTS OF

01:11 - 35.660 WHO WORSHIPED MASON BEFORE WE

01:11 - 37.080 TURNED THE GUN.

01:11 - 41.260 WHO SAYS SHE IS. THANK YOU

01:11 - 43.730 THANK YOU. CLOSING I WOULD I

01:11 - 47.050 WITHOUT THAT THE OF HOLDING IN

01:11 - 47.830 THIS CASE.

01:11 - 50.850 IN ORDERS TO QUESTIONS IN THIS

01:11 - 53.190 CASE COURT THE 1996 DECISION

01:11 - 54.370 OUR PERSONAL VALUE WHICH I

01:11 - 57.030 MENTIONED AND THE 2002 ORDER OF

01:11 - 00.330 THIS COURT WHICH SUSPENDED 8355

01:12 - 02.660 WHICH WOULD HAVE GIVEN STANDING

01:12 - 04.190 FOR SANCTIONS UNDER THE

01:12 - 06.590 DRIVING IDEA. THE SUPERIOR

01:12 - 07.820 COURT IGNORED HIS OWN

01:12 - 10.750 BRIGHT-LINE TEST. IN THIS CASE

01:12 - 12.540 THE IGNORED BUT EVEN IF

01:12 - 14.330 YOU AGREE, AND THE SANCTIONS

01:12 - 16.020 MOTION IS A A SEPARATE

01:12 - 18.670 PROCEEDING. THE SUPERIOR COURT

01:12 - 20.590 IGNORED THE FACT THAT MISS RAIN

01:12 - 21.050 OR AND

01:12 - 23.170 HER FIRM WE'RE NOT REALLY OR

01:12 - 24.760 USE FOR THAT REASON YOUR HONORS

01:12 - 26.510 I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST WERE

01:12 - 28.280 REVERSED. THE DECISION OF THE

01:12 - 30.080 SECURITY COURT. HE WAS FROM THE

01:12 - 32.020 TRIAL FOR US THIS WILL PLAY.

01:12 - 40.780 >>MEMBERS OF THE COURT ROOM.

01:12 - 43.220 HAYNES AND I REPRESENT

01:12 - 45.780 MEETING WEEK. PERIODICALLY YOU

01:12 - 46.660 HAVE BROKEN OUT.

01:12 - 49.220 I DON'T MEAN THE AUDIO PORTION

01:12 - 50.220 I DON'T SEE ANY

01:12 - 52.350 OF YOU AND WHAT IF YOU HAVE TO

01:12 - 53.650 SEE IF YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY

01:12 - 55.870 HEARING ME PLEASE LET ME KNOW

01:12 - 57.580 AND IF I DON'T GET AN ENTIRE

01:12 - 58.910 QUESTION THAT YOU MAY ASK.

01:12 - 01.140 I MAY ASK YOU TO REPEAT NOT

01:13 - 02.900 BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE MY HEARING

01:13 - 04.880 AIDS IN BUT BECAUSE YOU'VE

01:13 - 07.700 BROKEN UP AND I THINK JUST

01:13 - 11.300 DONAHUE REALLY. HAS PUT HER

01:13 - 13.960 FINGER ON GOT PRINCIPAL

01:13 - 15.190 ISSUE HERE

01:13 - 19.450 AND INDEED. MY OPPONENTS ARE

01:13 - 21.020 DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO

01:13 - 22.410 STUFF THE RABBIT IN

01:13 - 24.960 THE HAT. THE QUESTION IS

01:13 - 27.750 VERY SIMPLE. WHAT KNOWN AS THE

01:13 - 31.090 STATUTE ME WHEN IT SAYS

01:13 - 32.980 IT WILL PROCEEDING.

01:13 - 35.510 WORLD AND I WANT TO GO INTO THE

01:13 - 37.830 HISTORY OF THIS BACK TO I THINK

01:13 - 39.800 I KNOW IT WELL, BUT IT'S

01:13 - 42.800 NOT NOT DIRECTLY RELEVANT HERE

01:13 - 43.920 EXCEPT TO

01:13 - 46.270 THE EXTENT THAT THIS STATUTE

01:13 - 48.490 WAS SPECIFICALLY DRAFTED.

01:13 - 53.190 AND THE SCOPE OWN I'M A

01:13 - 53.980 LAWSUIT OR

01:13 - 56.080 CLAIM FOR WRONGFUL USE OF CIVIL

01:13 - 56.870 PROCEEDING.

01:13 - 00.180 THAT'S MY THE

01:14 - 02.180 ARGUMENT TO THE CONTRARY.

01:14 - 03.790 THE AIR ISN'T LOCATED.

01:14 - 07.850 PENNSYLVANIA THAT STANDS THAT

01:14 - 10.960 THEY WILL PUSH SEEDINGS ME.

01:14 - 15.920 SINGLE SO WHO LAWSUIT.

01:14 - 17.870 RECEDING.

01:14 - 21.780 AND PROCEEDED IF THIS COURT

01:14 - 23.790 WERE TO LOOK YOU WOULD SEE THAT

01:14 - 27.140 THERE ARE ROUGHLY 3,000 CASES.

01:14 - 29.500 REPORTED.

01:14 - 32.640 THAT REFERRED TO

01:14 - 34.650 CONTEMPT WHO

01:14 - 37.670 SEE NEWS. THIS WAS NOT A MOTION

01:14 - 39.590 THIS WAS A PROCEED EVENING.

01:14 - 43.160 AND AS A PROCEEDING IN ALL WHO

01:14 - 43.860 HAVE BEEN.

01:14 - 48.620 CLEARED UNDERSTANDING WHY THANK

01:14 - 51.120 YOU AND AND AND CURRENT RATE IN

01:14 - 52.560 THE ARGUMENT OF MY OPPONENTS.

01:14 - 53.880 NO COURT

01:14 - 57.290 HAS SAID THAT IT IS SIMPLY A

01:14 - 59.230 LAWSUIT AND NOTHING MORE.

01:14 - 02.370 THAT I'M GOING TO RISE PURSUING

01:15 - 05.370 A DRAGON 80. WE I'M.

01:15 - 07.030 WANT TO TALK

01:15 - 08.650 ABOUT THAT PROBABLY PUBLIC

01:15 - 09.900 POLICY ISSUE.

01:15 - 13.090 NOT ONLY TO THE 2 BRIEFLY TO

01:15 - 13.900 THIS EXTENT.

01:15 - 21.700 IN THE TRIAL COURT. IT'S AN

01:15 - 23.900 EMBARRASSMENT. IT IS

01:15 - 25.010 AN EMBARRASSMENT.

01:15 - 27.600 THE JUDGE WHO OVERSAW

01:15 - 29.880 THE PROCEEDING. IT'S AN IN

01:15 - 31.930 PERSON IN THE LAWYERS WHO

01:15 - 34.490 BROUGHT IT. THEY MISREPRESENTED

01:15 - 35.260 BACK.

01:15 - 38.400 WHO CAN DELIVER DAYS WITH THE

01:15 - 41.690 LANGUAGE THAT WAS OFFENSIVE AND

01:15 - 44.670 IF YOU SAY WELL WHY YOU KNOW TO

01:15 - 46.940 CATCH THIS WITH POLICY OR

01:15 - 48.970 IN THAT WE WOULD OPEN THE DOOR

01:15 - 50.330 TO THESE KINDS OF LAWSUITS.

01:15 - 54.250 RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST YOU'RE

01:15 - 54.580 DOING.

01:15 - 58.930 THANK STRAY.

01:16 - 04.190 >>I'M HERE AT THAT AGE OSTIA

01:16 - 05.720 YOU KNOW YOU CAN SEE IS THAT

01:16 - 07.570 EXHAUSTING TIME WE'VE SET ASIDE

01:16 - 09.390 FOR EUROPE. THE STATEMENT SO

01:16 - 11.410 YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A FEW

01:16 - 12.490 MINUTES ON

01:16 - 15.970 ANY QUESTIONS. THAT A COURT

01:16 - 17.210 MIGHT HAVE BEEN WILL BEGIN

01:16 - 18.930 THOSE WITH SAID JUSTICE SAID

01:16 - 19.490 DAUGHERTY.

01:16 - 24.140 AS A FORMER TRIAL

01:16 - 26.760 LAWYER I HAVE A CONCERN SHARED

01:16 - 28.530 WITH ME THAT IN THIS COURT

01:16 - 30.330 FINDS DRAGON 80 UNDER THE

01:16 - 32.650 CIRCUMSTANCES I EMOTION

01:16 - 33.050 CRACKED.

01:16 - 36.940 >>WHAT PREVENTS THE WRECK OF

01:16 - 37.010 THE

01:16 - 39.590 DRAGON AD. WHAT'S IT BEEN A

01:16 - 41.790 NORMAL TRIAL EVERY TIME.

01:16 - 45.530 YOUR ADVERSARY TRIES TO

01:16 - 46.240 PRACTICE

01:16 - 48.690 MOTIONS OR WHAT IS IT THE

01:16 - 51.890 ECONOMY IF WE

01:16 - 54.530 FOLLOW THROUGH OR IN YOUR

01:16 - 57.290 BELIEVE BAD. MOTION

01:16 - 59.850 PRACTICE IS DRAGON EDDIE AND

01:16 - 02.170 SECONDARY TO THAT WHY DRAG A

01:17 - 03.620 NAVY WHEN YOU COULD GOT REALLY

01:17 - 05.580 23 POINT WANT.

01:17 - 09.830 WELL THAT THERE ARE 2 PRONGS TO

01:17 - 12.740 THAT GUY. MR. JUSTICE

01:17 - 15.620 EXCUSE ME. NUMBER ONE THIS IS

01:17 - 17.530 NOT MOTIONS PRACTICE. THIS IS

01:17 - 20.080 NOT IN TROUBLE WHO GAVE INTER

01:17 - 21.750 TRUMP MY OWN MOTION PRACTICE.

01:17 - 24.780 THIS IS A SEPARATE. THEY WILL

01:17 - 25.710 RECEIVE YOU.

01:17 - 29.340 HE ASKED HIM 23 ADDRESS IT IS

01:17 - 31.560 THE COMMON MOTION PASSED ON IS

01:17 - 33.060 THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUT

01:17 - 35.640 1023 DIDN'T ABROGATE THE

01:17 - 37.880 DRAGON IDEA AND THE DRAGON AND

01:17 - 41.130 THE FACT IS THERE TOO. WOW

01:17 - 42.490 OR A MUCH

01:17 - 45.050 BROADER SWEEP. AND SIMPLE

01:17 - 47.870 MOTION PRANK. I AGREE WITH YOU

01:17 - 49.900 THAT IF IF BRANDON ANYWHERE

01:17 - 53.470 OPEN UP TO YOU AND FROM.

01:17 - 55.110 I'M

01:17 - 56.810 NO MOTION. WE'RE IN THE

01:17 - 58.220 PRODUCTION OF DOCUMENTS THAT

01:17 - 00.740 WOULD BE AN ABSURD AND NONE OF

01:18 - 04.210 US. I THINK WAIT THAT'S

01:18 - 05.740 REALLY DIFFERENT. WELL

01:18 - 08.270 IT WASN'T. THIS WASN'T HANDLED

01:18 - 09.210 AS A MOLE.

01:18 - 11.780 SHANNON, EVEN DURING THE MOTION

01:18 - 13.780 FOR NEW TRIAL IT WAS HANDLED AS

01:18 - 15.700 A SEPARATE PROCEEDING. AND

01:18 - 16.920 CHARACTERIZED AS A

01:18 - 19.600 SEPARATE PROCEEDING. THERE WAS

01:18 - 21.800 A CLAIM MADE THERE WAS

01:18 - 24.240 TESTIMONY TAKE IN THERE WAS

01:18 - 25.900 ARGUMENT BY COUNCIL.

01:18 - 28.640 AND IF YOU LOOK YOU MY CLIENT

01:18 - 30.120 IS A PARTY TO THAT.

01:18 - 32.930 THOUGH IT'S VERY DIFFERENT

01:18 - 35.100 THAN BIN AND KIND OF MOTION

01:18 - 36.370 PRACTICE, YOUR NICHE MARKET.

01:18 - 39.360 MIKE MCCLURE SELECTED THAT

01:18 - 39.600 ROUTE.

01:18 - 41.640 HALF OF MY

01:18 - 43.560 CONCERN IS THAT YOU SAY THIS IS

01:18 - 45.170 A SEPARATE CIVIL PROCEEDING IF

01:18 - 46.580 I FILED A MOTION TO COMPEL

01:18 - 47.120 DISCOVERY

01:18 - 47.830 AGAINST YOU.

01:18 - 49.530 >>YOU DIDN'T COMMENT INVOLVED

01:18 - 51.220 THROUGH DISCOVERY BY THE COURT

01:18 - 52.570 ORDERED A AND THEN I FILE A

01:18 - 54.430 MOTION FOR SANCTIONS. YOU HAVE

01:18 - 56.980 INFO HERE. WE DO HAVE EVIDENCE

01:18 - 59.260 IN THE NBA JUST GOOD.

01:19 - 06.190 I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE

01:19 - 07.650 WITH THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE

01:19 - 09.900 THAT'S WHAT 1023 IS INTENDED TO

01:19 - 10.450 ADDRESS.

01:19 - 12.250 >>ARE YOU TALKING TO ONE.

01:19 - 13.320 I WAS DONE.

01:19 - 16.200 NOW YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION

01:19 - 17.610 ENCOURAGED. HERE.

01:19 - 20.560 I THINK YOU'RE HAVING A DELAY,

01:19 - 21.690 SO I APOLOGIZE

01:19 - 24.560 TO MAKE. I DO MY WHOLE LIFE

01:19 - 26.040 YOUR MOUTH MOVING AND I THOUGHT

01:19 - 27.640 YOU'RE STILL TALKING BY PHONE.

01:19 - 33.350 >>HE CAN DO IT IT IS A THAT

01:19 - 35.040 ABSOLUTELY DIFFERENT THING

01:19 - 37.860 AND 23. WHAT IS INTENDED TO

01:19 - 39.290 ADDRESS THE SIMPLE MOTION

01:19 - 40.860 SITUATION. THIS IS

01:19 - 43.750 NOT BAD. THIS IS A UNIQUE

01:19 - 45.480 PROCEEDING AT WHY.

01:19 - 48.830 AND CONTEMPT RECEDING IS ALL

01:19 - 49.280 ABOUT

01:19 - 53.300 MRS. I MISS ISRAEL WHO WAS HELD

01:19 - 54.920 IN CONTEMPT BY

01:19 - 57.180 THE COURT. NO COURT IS GOING

01:19 - 59.880 TO. INCLUDE

01:19 - 02.540 OR STAY, MANY SANCTION FOR A

01:20 - 04.500 FRIVOLOUS MOTION IS A CONTEMPT

01:20 - 07.180 AND COME TO WAR. IT'S NOT IT'S

01:20 - 08.790 NOT AN ORDER. NO

01:20 - 11.180 IT'S NOT AND IT TO DRAGGING.

01:20 - 13.950 THANK YOU THANK YOU, MISTER AND

01:20 - 15.130 SAID JUST WORK.

01:20 - 17.170 >>THANK YOU DOES THIS

01:20 - 19.410 COUNSELOR WARNER FURTHER PURSUE

01:20 - 20.880 THAT LINE OF QUESTIONING I

01:20 - 23.380 DON'T DISCERN IN YOUR ARGUMENT

01:20 - 24.900 ANY SATISFACTORY LIMITING

01:20 - 27.370 PRINCIPLE OTHER THAN A LOT.

01:20 - 29.580 IT'S DRAGNET A ELIGIBLE WHEN

01:20 - 30.440 YOU SAY IT IS

01:20 - 32.610 EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COURT WAS

01:20 - 34.050 EITHER A TRIAL JUDGE OR TRIAL

01:20 - 36.160 LAWYER OR BOTH WHO'S BEEN IN

01:20 - 38.540 COUNTLESS HEARINGS AND I DON'T

01:20 - 42.270 I DON'T DISCERN ANY. AND

01:20 - 44.960 IN PRINCIPLE IN YOUR ARGUMENT

01:20 - 46.600 THAT WOULD

01:20 - 48.890 HEART OUT ANY OF THE HEARINGS

01:20 - 50.750 IN WHICH ANY OF US PRESIDED OR

01:20 - 53.260 PARTICIPATED HAS NOT ATTRACTED

01:20 - 55.040 TO LEE DRAGON ANY ELIGIBLE IT

01:20 - 58.080 CERTAINLY CAN'T BE. LIMITED TO

01:20 - 59.570 CONTEMPT PROCEEDINGS. I DON'T

01:20 - 00.890 THIS TURNED OUT TO BE YOUR

01:21 - 02.960 ARGUMENT. I CERTAINLY CAN'T BE

01:21 - 04.430 SOMETHING INVOLVING MS. RAYNER

01:21 - 06.530 OBVIOUSLY IT CAN'T BE SOMETHING

01:21 - 08.650 THAT WHEN

01:21 - 10.030 A BUNCH OF US SITTING AROUND A

01:21 - 11.460 TABLE FEELS AND IT'S BIG

01:21 - 11.940 ENOUGH.

01:21 - 18.200 THERE INNUMERABLE

01:21 - 20.590 SCENARIOS IN

01:21 - 22.510 WHICH IF YOUR

01:21 - 25.120 ARGUMENT IS ACCEPTED IN SEEMS

01:21 - 28.160 TO ME. THAT

01:21 - 31.030 WE WILL SEE A DRAGON AT THE

01:21 - 32.440 PROLIFERATION WE CERTAINLY

01:21 - 34.230 CAN'T JUST EXPECT THAT DUMB.

01:21 - 37.350 LAWYERS WILL SHOW RESTRAINT OR

01:21 - 38.860 ASKED LAWYERS TO SHOW RESTRAINT

01:21 - 40.080 AND WALK AWAY FROM.

01:21 - 42.260 WELL I'M GOING TO ASK

01:21 - 45.580 YOU AGAIN. IT WAS A CLEAR

01:21 - 47.030 LIMITING PRINCIPLE.

01:21 - 48.860 WHAT THIS

01:21 - 51.700 THING ENCOMPASSES OFFICER THEN

01:21 - 52.670 BOY THIS WAS A REALLY

01:21 - 54.170 OUTRAGEOUS ONE THIS HAS TO BE

01:21 - 55.320 DRAGNET BE ELIGIBLE.

01:22 - 02.700 WELL JUST A FEW AT YOU MISTER

01:22 - 04.320 JUST 6 YOU ACT.

01:22 - 07.150 >>I'M TROUBLED BY YOUR QUESTION

01:22 - 10.130 FRANKLY TO THIS EXTENT. THE

01:22 - 12.580 DRAGON ANY ACTION HAS TO

01:22 - 15.720 CONFORM TO AND ALL

01:22 - 19.040 THE REQUIREMENTS OLD THE ACT.

01:22 - 20.780 FIRST OF ALL.

01:22 - 23.360 IT'S GOT TO INVOLVE A PARTY

01:22 - 27.750 NOW. ANY COMMON MOTION I DON'T

01:22 - 30.320 SEE NOW OPPOSING COUNSEL WHO

01:22 - 32.530 WOULD POSSIBLY BE A PARTY.

01:22 - 34.980 HERE, MRS.

01:22 - 36.670 RAINER WAS

01:22 - 40.140 A PARTY AND THE ONLY PARTY TO

01:22 - 44.240 CLAIM OR. CONTENT SECONDLY

01:22 - 46.840 THERE HAS TO BE A LOSS. A

01:22 - 49.480 LAWYER WHO LOSES SHOE

01:22 - 53.970 THE COMPOUND DISCOVERY. THROUGH

01:22 - 54.710 A LOT.

01:22 - 58.670 IT JUST.

01:22 - 00.510 >>IT SEEMS TO

01:23 - 01.950 ME THAT IT IS SOME

01:23 - 03.430 DISTINGUISHABLE FROM THE

01:23 - 04.180 COMMON.

01:23 - 06.790 >>MOTION THEN IT.

01:23 - 10.230 AND I HATE TO SAY THIS TO YOU

01:23 - 11.990 BUT IT'S PATENTLY OBVIOUS THAT

01:23 - 14.410 THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN

01:23 - 16.720 THE 2. I AND

01:23 - 18.820 I KNOW I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN

01:23 - 21.150 BETTER ARTICULATED IN THAN I

01:23 - 23.770 ALREADY HAVE. IT YOU KNOW THAT

01:23 - 26.560 THIS COURT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT

01:23 - 26.640 TO

01:23 - 29.240 MY COMMENTS. I MADE A SPECIFIC

01:23 - 32.580 POINT IN THE HART CASE. THERE

01:23 - 35.080 ARE EXCEPTIONS AND

01:23 - 37.600 IN HEART AND JUST ARE STILL

01:23 - 39.960 VIOLENT KAYLA LITERALLY

01:23 - 42.060 DESCRIBES THIS UNIQUE

01:23 - 42.920 SITUATION.

01:23 - 50.320 I DON'T SEE HOW THAT ACT.

01:23 - 54.070 TRANS POSES INTO THE COMMON

01:23 - 55.060 MOTION IN A NAME.

01:23 - 57.100 IF YOU, IT IS NOT A PERSON

01:23 - 59.570 SEEDING. THERE ISN'T EVIDENCE

01:23 - 00.910 TAKEN IN A MOTION.

01:24 - 02.780 THERE ISN'T A FINDING BY THE

01:24 - 05.270 COURT THERE IS A NEW ORDER THAT

01:24 - 07.690 HAS BEEN VIOLATED ALL OF THOSE

01:24 - 10.270 THINGS. AND THIS IS SORRY, YOU

01:24 - 11.170 DON'T GET

01:24 - 14.120 TO MOTION. I'M JERRITA CONTEMPT

01:24 - 15.630 PROCEEDING WITHOUT A VIOLATION

01:24 - 16.490 OF AN ORDER.

01:24 - 19.370 AND THOUGH I MEAN

01:24 - 21.970 MOTION PRACTICE DOESN'T INVOLVE

01:24 - 23.630 A VIOLATION OF AN ORDER.

01:24 - 25.980 I SUPPOSE IF

01:24 - 28.310 AND DILATORY LAWYER SAID WELL

01:24 - 30.660 I'M GOING. I'M NOT GOING TO DO

01:24 - 33.150 WHAT. THE COURT SAYS.

01:24 - 37.170 THEORETICALLY THE COURT WHO

01:24 - 41.050 WOULD I TRY TO HOLD THAT LAWYER

01:24 - 43.230 YOU CAN WHO Y AWAITING THE

01:24 - 44.880 ORDER THAT LAWYER WOULD BE

01:24 - 46.430 ENTITLED TO A HEARING AND A

01:24 - 48.180 FINDING AND THE COURT WOULD

01:24 - 49.950 HAVE TO DETERMINE. THERE WERE

01:24 - 51.670 SOME MEANINGFUL DAMAGES.

01:24 - 55.900 TO ME IT IS INCONCEIVABLE THE

01:24 - 57.270 DAD EVER GETS TO THE POINT

01:24 - 59.000 WHERE THERE'S A LAWSUIT WITH

01:24 - 00.790 WILD. THAN THAT

01:25 - 02.760 GERBER 8 THE DRAGON ANY UH I'M

01:25 - 04.910 NOT GOING TO POINT TO AND NOT

01:25 - 06.290 ONLY WAS SANCTION NOT ONLY DID

01:25 - 07.650 THE LAWYERS GO AFTER HER BANK

01:25 - 08.200 ACCOUNTS.

01:25 - 10.790 SHE LOST. WE LOST HER JOB FOR

01:25 - 12.920 ONLY 10 SLEEPER ISSUE WAS THE

01:25 - 14.840 SUBJECT OF WE'RE GOING TO WIN

01:25 - 16.820 THAT YOU CAN REALLY PROBABLY AS

01:25 - 18.740 FAR WEST AS PITTSBURGH. I MEAN

01:25 - 20.010 THIS WAS REPORTED THROUGHOUT

01:25 - 22.790 THE COUNTRY. THIS IS

01:25 - 25.140 SO DISTINGUISHABLE NOT JUST

01:25 - 27.260 NEWS RANGE CASE AND IT'S SO

01:25 - 30.110 DISTINCTION. BUT IT CRIES OUT

01:25 - 33.660 TO ME. NOW THIS PARTICULAR WE

01:25 - 36.360 INTEND RECEDING IS PRECISELY

01:25 - 37.150 WHAT THE ACT.

01:25 - 50.480 >>JUST THIS MONTH. AND NO

01:25 - 53.780 QUESTIONS. I JUST DESPAIR.

01:25 - 57.080 MISTER HAYNES'S.

01:25 - 00.210 IS THERE A CASE LAW ON WHETHER

01:26 - 01.500 THIS ACTION BE CONSTRUED

01:26 - 02.830 BROADLY OR NARROWLY.

01:26 - 07.030 >>WELL THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF

01:26 - 07.750 CASE LAW.

01:26 - 10.050 YEAH IN PENNSYLVANIA, ALBEIT

01:26 - 11.480 FROM THE FEDERAL CORPORATE TUNE

01:26 - 11.580 IN

01:26 - 13.850 FEDERAL COURTS. I'M I'M

01:26 - 15.580 CONSISTENTLY IN PENNSYLVANIA,

01:26 - 17.540 YOU MOSTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

01:26 - 18.590 WESTERN DISTRICT.

01:26 - 26.940 FOR HE SAID.

01:26 - 32.050 ANCILLARY PROCEEDINGS.

01:26 - 35.070 I OR GET IN YOU'RE RIGHT.

01:26 - 39.100 AND I'M HAVING A LITTLE

01:26 - 40.030 DIFFERENT I HAD THAT VERY

01:26 - 42.870 LITTLE BIT BECAUSE. THE

01:26 - 43.920 RESTATEMENT OF TALK.

01:26 - 48.120 THE LAW IN PENNSYLVANIA.

01:26 - 50.310 I'M SORRY AND I SAID THE

01:26 - 52.500 RESTATEMENT OF TORTS MAY OR MAY

01:26 - 54.330 NOT BE THE LAW IN PENNSYLVANIA

01:26 - 54.770 ON THIS

01:26 - 57.270 PARTICULAR SUBJECT. YOU ALL

01:26 - 00.180 HAVE DONE IF I DID IT IN AND AT

01:27 - 01.320 LEAST ONE CASE.

01:27 - 04.630 IT IS OBVIOUSLY LED INSPECTIONS

01:27 - 06.410 SHOULD NOT WORK. AND

01:27 - 08.740 SPENT 74 IN

01:27 - 11.900 SUBSECTION F IT'S ABOUT

01:27 - 15.000 ANCILLARY PROCEEDING. AT BEST

01:27 - 16.000 THIS IS AN ANCILLARY

01:27 - 18.470 PROCEEDING. LISTENING DETROIT'S

01:27 - 20.850 MATT LONGER MANNING TRIAL.

01:27 - 42.150 I CAN GET A CAR WITH

01:27 - 43.090 THIS STRANGE.

01:27 - 45.680 >>RIGHT I THINK I'VE WE'VE LOST

01:27 - 46.640 TO DO. YOU

01:27 - 48.480 CAN CARRY. NOW SO I DON'T KNOW

01:27 - 49.910 AND THE STREAMS WE'VE LOST THAT

01:27 - 52.660 MISTER RANGE. YOUR AND YOU

01:27 - 53.080 BACK.

01:27 - 58.910 >>IF YOU CAN HEAR ME,

01:27 - 59.610 I'M HERE.

01:28 - 01.310 >>OKAY LET'S DO IT THIS WAY

01:28 - 01.920 SAYS THERE'S

01:28 - 02.670 A LITTLE.

01:28 - 05.040 >>THEY GO THERE FOR GARDY WE

01:28 - 05.570 BELIEVE THE

01:28 - 08.020 YEAR AT A JUSTICE BEARS GOING

01:28 - 09.180 TO PUT HIS QUEST

01:28 - 12.180 YEAR AGAIN. YOU RESPONDED THEM

01:28 - 13.120 WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THE

01:28 - 13.620 ARGUMENT.

01:28 - 18.460 >>ONE WHY SHOULD

01:28 - 20.180 WE NOT IT'S TRUE IT'S

01:28 - 22.400 VERY NARROWLY PROHIBIT THE

01:28 - 23.060 LAWSUIT

01:28 - 26.070 AND EYES. YOUR CLIENT AND THE

01:28 - 27.380 OTHER LAWYERS AND I AGREE IT'S

01:28 - 28.690 AN APPALLING SITUATION, BUT

01:28 - 30.020 THEY'RE ANGRY WITH EACH OTHER.

01:28 - 31.730 IT IS A MATTER OF POLICY WE

01:28 - 32.720 DON'T WANT YOU FIGHTING IN OUR

01:28 - 33.420 SANDBOX.

01:28 - 39.640 >>WELL I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE

01:28 - 40.100 QUESTION

01:28 - 45.160 IS WHY WHERE HE IS THERE I.

01:28 - 47.950 MEGAN I THIS THANK

01:28 - 51.420 >>WE'RE GOING TO CONCLUDE THE

01:28 - 52.200 ARGUMENT AND

01:28 - 57.360 THAT'S THE FIRE YOU FOR THAT

01:28 - 58.740 MORNING IN A CAN.

01:29 - 02.000 >>PCN IS WORKING TO HELP KEEP

01:29 - 03.380 PENNSYLVANIANS INFORMED AS

01:29 - 04.800 RESTRICTIONS ARE LIFTED ACROSS

01:29 - 06.290 THE STATE JOIN US DAILY FOR

01:29 - 08.460 CORONAVIRUS IMPACT A DISCUSSION

01:29 - 09.630 WITH CIVIC BUSINESS AND

01:29 - 11.520 GOVERNMENT LEADERS ON COVID-19

01:29 - 13.770 IMPACT ON LIFE DURING AND AFTER

01:29 - 15.010 THE PANDEMIC IN P A

01:29 - 17.050 STAY WITH PCN IS WE PROVIDE

01:29 - 18.760 PENNSYLVANIANS WOULD LIVE UP TO

01:29 - 20.050 THE MINUTE INFORMATION FROM THE

01:29 - 21.390 GOVERNOR AND DEPARTMENT OF

01:29 - 23.130 HEALTH CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE

01:29 - 25.230 WATCH PCN ON CABLE AND STREAM

01:29 - 27.020 FREE ON THE PCN APP.

01:29 - 31.470 >>UNITS IN

01:29 - 33.770 THE MATTER. THE NEW FORCES

01:29 - 35.230 MITCHELL GREGORY PECK JUNIOR.

01:29 - 37.480 MISTER

01:29 - 40.270 PECK'S USES RICE WAS IN

01:29 - 42.890 COMMONWEALTH IS CHANGED PITCH.

01:29 - 46.200 GOOD MORNING.

01:29 - 49.250 ON IN THIS CRIMINAL CASE.

01:29 - 52.090 NOW THIS IS SUFFICIENCY OF THE

01:29 - 53.500 EVIDENCE SUPPORTING HIS

01:29 - 56.030 CONVICTION. A DRUG DELIVERY

01:29 - 57.400 RESULTING IN IT.

01:29 - 00.170 ALSO ON THE GROUNDS THAT HIS

01:30 - 02.510 CONDUCT DID NOT OCCUR. IN

01:30 - 03.380 PENNSYLVANIA.

01:30 - 11.640 WARRIORS COUNCIL. IT WAS

01:30 - 12.070 THE COURT.

01:30 - 13.910 >>MY NAME IS BRIAN MCEWEN WITH

01:30 - 14.710 THE YORK COUNTY PUBLIC

01:30 - 16.630 DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND REPRESENT

01:30 - 18.160 THE APPELLANT MITCHELL JUNIOR.

01:30 - 20.720 THIS CASE IS SIMPLE.

01:30 - 22.960 THE PARTIES AGREE THAT FOR A

01:30 - 24.140 DRUG DELIVERY RESULTING IN

01:30 - 25.450 DEATH. THERE MUST BE A

01:30 - 27.210 VIOLATION OF PENNSYLVANIA'S

01:30 - 28.570 CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE DRUG

01:30 - 29.740 DEVICE AND COSMETIC.

01:30 - 32.190 SO THIS CASE REALLY COMES DOWN

01:30 - 33.110 TO WHETHER THERE WAS SUCH

01:30 - 35.550 A VIOLATION. LOU REED QUESTION

01:30 - 36.930 OCCURRED IN MARYLAND AS OPPOSED

01:30 - 37.710 TO PENNSYLVANIA.

01:30 - 40.830 TO THE PLAIN TEXT OF THE ACT

01:30 - 42.420 THERE SIMPLY WAS NO VIOLATION.

01:30 - 48.070 PROVIDES A LIST OF ACTIVITIES

01:30 - 49.360 THAT ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE

01:30 - 49.840 CALM.

01:30 - 52.350 ONE OF THESE ACTIVITIES

01:30 - 53.350 DELIVERY OF A CONTROLLED

01:30 - 54.070 SUBSTANCE.

01:30 - 56.870 BUT THROUGH NO DELIVERY WITHIN

01:30 - 58.510 THE COMMONWEALTH AGAIN YOUR

01:30 - 00.300 DELIVERY HERE. POLICE IN

01:31 - 00.770 MARYLAND.

01:31 - 03.300 THERE'S JUST NO GETTING AROUND

01:31 - 04.720 THIS CLEAR LIMITATION ON WHAT

01:31 - 06.310 THE ARE THOSE AND DOES NOT

01:31 - 06.740 PREVENT IT.

01:31 - 09.310 THE DRUG DELIVERY RESULTING IN

01:31 - 10.930 DEATH PROSECUTION. THIS

01:31 - 12.810 PROVISION MAN DAYS. THE

01:31 - 14.240 DELIVERY OCCURRED WITHIN THE

01:31 - 15.350 COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA.

01:31 - 16.890 A MARYLAND.

01:31 - 19.600 YEMEN. NOT SOME OTHER PLAYERS

01:31 - 21.100 ONLY A PENNSYLVANIA DELIVERY

01:31 - 21.620 WILL DO.

01:31 - 24.330 HE TOLD ME SEVERAL TIMES TO GET

01:31 - 26.020 AROUND THE STICKS. BUT NONE OF

01:31 - 26.730 THEM SUCCEED.

01:31 - 29.570 CALLER USED PRINCIPALLY THERE'S

01:31 - 30.790 A VIOLATION OF THE ACT.

01:31 - 32.940 EVEN THOUGH YOU CONVICTED UNDER

01:31 - 33.690 THE ACT WOULD HAVE BEEN

01:31 - 35.090 CATEGORICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

01:31 - 37.530 THIS IS PROBLEMATIC AS A MATTER

01:31 - 38.600 OF COMMON SENSE BECAUSE IT'S

01:31 - 39.850 HARD TO SEE HOW SOMETHING THAT

01:31 - 42.210 EDWARD LEE BRICE THE CONVICTION

01:31 - 43.970 THAT RESET YOU THAT IS A

01:31 - 45.380 VIOLATION OF THAT STATUTE.

01:31 - 47.440 AND MORE FUNDAMENTALLY.

01:31 - 50.480 WITH THE COLD IS REALLY ARGUING

01:31 - 51.760 IS THAT THERE WAS A VIOLATION

01:31 - 54.720 SUBSECTION 8.30 WHICH DESCRIBES

01:31 - 55.430 DELIVERIES.

01:31 - 57.610 BUT IN SAYING THAT WAS OVER

01:31 - 58.970 GUARD TO WHAT SECTION DAY

01:31 - 01.190 ACTUALLY SAYS CAN I WORK IN

01:32 - 02.820 THIS CASE BECAUSE IT THAT

01:32 - 04.780 CONTAINS NOT JUST THAT WITHIN

01:32 - 05.930 THE COMMONWEALTH LANGUAGE.

01:32 - 07.330 BUT IT CONTAINS THE CREWED

01:32 - 08.260 MISSION ITSELF.

01:32 - 11.150 THE COURT CANNOT LOOK TO

01:32 - 13.060 SUBSECTION 8.30 WITHOUT REGARD

01:32 - 14.390 TO WHAT IT SAYS IN SECTION

01:32 - 14.640 THAT.

01:32 - 18.010 COLE ALSO WORRIED THAT TOURISTS

01:32 - 19.450 ARE SUPERVISION. THE

01:32 - 22.230 CRIME SCHOOL. RISE TO ASK YOU A

01:32 - 24.640 GRAPHIC ILLUSTRATION. NOW

01:32 - 25.680 THROUGH SOCIAL MODERATE WHO

01:32 - 26.100 SAYS THERE

01:32 - 28.190 IS JURISDICTION OVER THE DRUG

01:32 - 29.180 DELIVERY RESULTING IN DEATH

01:32 - 30.190 CHARGE BECAUSE ONE OF ITS

01:32 - 31.370 ELEMENTS THE DEATH OF MISTER

01:32 - 32.680 HANS TOOK PLACE IN

01:32 - 35.250 PENNSYLVANIA. THEY HAD NOTHING

01:32 - 36.380 TO DO WITH AN

01:32 - 38.600 ENTIRELY SEPARATE GEOGRAPHICAL

01:32 - 39.680 RESTRICTIONS CONTAINED IN THE

01:32 - 41.390 ACT. THE

01:32 - 43.170 UPSHOT IS YES, THERE IS

01:32 - 44.880 JURISDICTION OVER DRUG DELIVERY

01:32 - 45.340 RESULTING IN

01:32 - 47.320 DEATH CHARGE. THE COMO FEEL THE

01:32 - 48.410 CREW ONE OF THE CENTRAL

01:32 - 49.630 ELEMENTS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO

01:32 - 51.170 VIOLATION OF THE ACT.

01:32 - 52.670 THAT'S WHEN MISTER BECK'S

01:32 - 53.560 CONVICTION INJURED IN A

01:32 - 55.350 SENTENCE. SHE DID.

01:32 - 57.740 >>THANK YOU MISTER E-MAIL WERE.

01:32 - 00.880 WE FINALLY HAVE A SIMPLE CASE

01:33 - 07.020 >>GOOD MORNING.

01:33 - 10.290 >>I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT

01:33 - 12.380 I SECTION ONE '02 OF

01:33 - 13.240 THE CLAIMS.

01:33 - 15.860 >>I'M AND I'M REALLY INTERESTED

01:33 - 18.490 IN YOU OR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT

01:33 - 21.700 THE PURPOSE OF SECTION 102 YES.

01:33 - 24.350 ON END. I'M GOING TO CALL YOUR

01:33 - 26.750 ATTENTION TO A PHRASE THAT I

01:33 - 29.460 HEAR IS IN SOME PARAGRAPH 8.

01:33 - 34.340 STATES I'M AT EXCEPT AS

01:33 - 35.870 OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN THIS

01:33 - 38.520 ACTION. IT SAYS A PERSON MAY BE

01:33 - 38.810 CAN

01:33 - 41.380 BET IT AND UTILIZING THIS

01:33 - 43.020 COMMONWEALTH AND THEN IT GOES

01:33 - 43.650 ON IN LESS

01:33 - 46.360 CERTAIN SITUATIONS. THE GOOD

01:33 - 48.000 NEWS IS THAT THAT LANE BRIDGE

01:33 - 50.920 MEANS A PERSON MAY BE

01:33 - 51.980 PROSECUTED.

01:33 - 54.110 THAT'S

01:33 - 55.530 CORRECT YOUR NECK BUT THAT'S

01:33 - 57.680 NOT WHAT SECTION ONE O TO A

01:33 - 00.220 YES. IT SAYS A PERSON

01:34 - 00.970 MAY BE

01:34 - 03.850 IN DECADES. SO I KNOW YOU TAKE

01:34 - 05.430 THE POSITION THAT SECTION ONE

01:34 - 09.400 '02 IS ON A JURORS GET SHOULD

01:34 - 12.060 KNOW OPERATION. ALTHOUGH IT'S

01:34 - 14.250 CALLED TERRITORIAL APPLE GOING

01:34 - 14.310 TO

01:34 - 16.440 BE SO YOU RECONCILE THAT

01:34 - 18.330 LANGUAGE FOR ME LANGUAGE THAT

01:34 - 20.520 SAYS A PERSON MAY BE CAN GET IT

01:34 - 22.090 WITH YOUR INTERPRETATION IS

01:34 - 23.690 THAT WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAYS A

01:34 - 25.370 PERSON MAY BE PROSECUTED.

01:34 - 28.820 BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S A

01:34 - 30.090 JURISDICTIONAL PROVISION, YOUR

01:34 - 30.500 HONOR.

01:34 - 32.300 >>YES, I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW.

01:34 - 34.270 I THINK YOU JURISDICTIONS

01:34 - 35.620 OBVIOUSLY A PREREQUISITE TO ANY

01:34 - 37.820 CRIMINAL PROSECUTION. AND SO I

01:34 - 39.640 THINK THE WAY IT IS A PERSON

01:34 - 41.570 MAY BE CONVICTED. THAT

01:34 - 42.480 CERTAINLY THAT'S

01:34 - 45.230 THAT'S TRUE. IT IS TUESDAY MAY

01:34 - 46.590 BE CONVICTED OF ALL OF THE

01:34 - 48.350 ELEMENTS OF ANTHRAX THAT MOVING

01:34 - 48.720 BEYOND A

01:34 - 49.630 REASONABLE DOUBT.

01:34 - 51.340 >>WHY DID THEY LET ME JUST LET

01:34 - 52.970 ME JUST INTERJECT THERE BECAUSE

01:34 - 54.450 I UNDERSTAND YOUR ARGUMENT AND

01:34 - 56.340 I APPRECIATE IT AND I ALMOST

01:34 - 56.640 AGREE

01:34 - 56.960 WITH THAT.

01:34 - 00.590 >>HAHA I'M I'M I'M A LITTLE

01:35 - 01.140 BIT.

01:35 - 04.480 >>I'M ME BY THE LANGUAGE THAT

01:35 - 06.060 TALKS ABOUT THE PERSON MAY BE

01:35 - 08.310 CONVICTED NOT A PERSON MAY BE

01:35 - 09.000 PROSECUTED.

01:35 - 12.860 >>WELL, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY I

01:35 - 15.110 I DO PERSONALLY SEE A CONFLICT

01:35 - 16.020 BETWEEN THOSE WHO ARE 2

01:35 - 17.840 VERSIONS. HOWEVER, IF THERE IS

01:35 - 19.410 A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE 2 OF

01:35 - 21.850 THEM. CERTAINLY IN THIS

01:35 - 23.250 SITUATION, THE MORE

01:35 - 25.690 SPECIFIC YEAH LEGISLATION THE

01:35 - 27.200 ACT WHICH APPLIES DIRECTLY TO

01:35 - 28.280 THE CONDUCT THAT WE'RE LOOKING

01:35 - 30.100 AT WE HAVE TO CONTROL OVER

01:35 - 31.200 WHATEVER IT SAYS

01:35 - 32.660 AS A GENERAL MATTER OF THE

01:35 - 34.410 CRIMES GO UNDER SECTION WANTS

01:35 - 34.690 TO.

01:35 - 40.660 IF THERE IS A CONFLICT THAT IS

01:35 - 42.320 HOW I WOULD RESULT, OK

01:35 - 42.810 THANK YOU.

01:35 - 44.520 >>I GUESS IT'S DOCTOR T.

01:35 - 49.390 THE QUESTION THE QUESTION IS

01:35 - 51.990 THAT THE D R AND B FALLS UNDER

01:35 - 54.680 THE CRIME CODE DEALING WITH

01:35 - 57.170 HOMES YET. IT'S WITHIN

01:35 - 59.120 THAT STATUTE MAKES REFERENCE TO

01:35 - 59.600 THE

01:35 - 01.770 CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE. SO

01:36 - 03.890 THEY'VE WERE FAR IF WE FOLLOW

01:36 - 05.990 THIS RECONSTRUCTION, WHY 1, ONE

01:36 - 08.630 '02 INTRO THAT THING WHERE THE

01:36 - 09.430 BODIES DOWN.

01:36 - 12.370 >>HERE I THINK ONE OF THOSE WHO

01:36 - 14.050 DOES CONTROL IS FAR AS THE

01:36 - 15.680 JURISDICTIONAL QUESTION THIS

01:36 - 17.230 CANCER. THAT'S WHY I THINK

01:36 - 18.480 THERE IS JURISDICTION

01:36 - 19.670 OVER THE DRUG DELIVERY

01:36 - 20.810 RESULTING IN DEATH CHARGE

01:36 - 22.790 BECAUSE MR. HUNT'S BODY WAS SO

01:36 - 25.400 BADLY. BUT IT CONSISTENTLY

01:36 - 27.080 ARGUED ALL ALONG IN THIS CASE.

01:36 - 28.550 IT JUST SETS THE STAGE FOR

01:36 - 29.790 POSSIBLE PROSECUTION.

01:36 - 32.280 IT HAS JURISDICTION. YES THEY

01:36 - 33.200 MADE THE CORRECT WAS A

01:36 - 34.170 JURISDICTION TO BRING A

01:36 - 35.780 PROSECUTION BUT THEN THEY

01:36 - 36.740 BROUGHT A DRUG DELIVERY

01:36 - 37.980 RESULTING IN DEATH CHARGE

01:36 - 40.090 IN THAT PARTICULAR CHARGE HAS

01:36 - 41.370 THIS LANGUAGE THAT REQUIRES A

01:36 - 43.210 VIOLATION OF THE ACT WHICH IN

01:36 - 45.130 TURN REQUIRES SOMETHING

01:36 - 45.860 TO HAVE OCCURRED IN

01:36 - 47.500 PENNSYLVANIA IN ORDER FOR A

01:36 - 48.620 VIOLATION TO OCCUR.

01:36 - 51.510 CERTAINLY IF THERE IS NO

01:36 - 53.140 JURISDICTION, THE WHOLE ORDEAL

01:36 - 54.740 WAS OVER AND THEY COULDN'T RUN

01:36 - 56.030 ANY CHURCH AT ALL.

01:36 - 58.440 BUT HERE THE JURISDICTION ALLOW

01:36 - 59.250 THEM TO GREEN

01:36 - 01.250 SOME SORT OF CHARGE ON THE

01:37 - 02.670 BASIS OF MR. HUNT'S DEBT

01:37 - 03.540 BECAUSE THAT OCCURRED

01:37 - 05.460 IN PENNSYLVANIA. I THINK THE

01:37 - 07.040 REQUIRE A PERSON MAYBE THEY

01:37 - 08.710 COULD ROBOTS OR A MANSLAUGHTER

01:37 - 10.350 CHARGE IT WANTED TO DO THAT.

01:37 - 12.170 WELL IT BECAUSE

01:37 - 14.140 THEY BROUGHT WHATEVER REASON

01:37 - 15.640 CAN'T CONTAIN VERY SPECIFIC

01:37 - 17.820 CLAIMS THAT WIRES A VIOLATION

01:37 - 19.860 OF THE ACT. YEAH, I THINK A

01:37 - 22.000 VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. IT CAN

01:37 - 24.300 FIND THESE PROVISIONS AND

01:37 - 25.490 TUESDAY'S OCCURRING WITHIN THE

01:37 - 26.840 COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA,

01:37 - 27.850 WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT.

01:37 - 30.620 >>WHERE ARE YOU SHARE WITH US

01:37 - 33.760 BACK THE DEATH OF B. THIS TODAY

01:37 - 36.540 ABOUT. SEE INDIVIDUAL

01:37 - 38.920 GOES UNPUNISHED. BECAUSE OF BAD

01:37 - 42.350 GENERAL ASSEMBLY. OUR.

01:37 - 44.730 >>I DON'T NECESSARILY

01:37 - 47.740 TO GET TO THE FIRST PART OF

01:37 - 48.650 YOUR QUESTION.

01:37 - 51.070 CERTAINLY HAVE TO GO UNPUNISHED

01:37 - 52.980 AS NOTED, IT COULD HAVE BROUGHT

01:37 - 54.030 SOME SORT OF OTHER CHARGE

01:37 - 57.170 PERHAPS ON THE BASIS. THE DEATH

01:37 - 58.390 OF HER IN PENNSYLVANIA

01:37 - 00.270 IS THIS PARTICULAR CHARGE

01:38 - 00.770 CONTINUES

01:38 - 02.630 PARTICULAR OWENS. THERE'S ONLY

01:38 - 04.060 ONE WHO WILL IN THIS CASE

01:38 - 05.330 BECAUSE OF THE WAY THINGS

01:38 - 07.710 PANNED OUT. NOW IS FOR IS

01:38 - 08.960 WHETHER SOMEONE ELSE IN ANOTHER

01:38 - 10.090 JURISDICTION COULD BROTHER

01:38 - 11.970 CHARGED. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT

01:38 - 13.210 CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY.

01:38 - 15.020 BUT AS FAR AS WHETHER THE

01:38 - 15.840 LEGISLATURE MADE

01:38 - 17.620 A MISTAKE. I DON'T THINK THEY

01:38 - 19.020 NECESSARILY MADE A MISTAKE HERE

01:38 - 20.650 I THINK TO BE USED VERY CLEAR

01:38 - 22.010 LANGUAGE IS REASONABLE TO

01:38 - 24.380 PRESUME INTO THE EFFECTS OF

01:38 - 26.590 THAT LANGUAGE TO TAKE PLACE AND

01:38 - 27.700 THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE WHERE

01:38 - 28.910 THE DRUG DELIVERY RESULTING IN

01:38 - 30.390 DEATH STATUTE MAKES SPECIFIC

01:38 - 32.390 REFERENCE TO THE ACT SO I DON'T

01:38 - 32.630 THINK THIS

01:38 - 35.450 CRAZY CONFLUENCE OF STATUTES OF

01:38 - 36.750 THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY COULD NOT

01:38 - 38.760 POSSIBLY CONCEIVE WHEN THEY

01:38 - 40.350 DRAFTED THESE 2 STATUTES.

01:38 - 41.710 I THINK IS THE NATURAL

01:38 - 43.700 CONSEQUENCE OF VERY CLEAR

01:38 - 46.000 THE LANGUAGE, THE PLACES STRICT

01:38 - 47.390 RULES ON WHAT DRUG DELIVERY

01:38 - 49.240 RESULTING IN DEATH. CAN AND

01:38 - 50.400 CANNOT TO PUNISH.

01:38 - 52.190 >>THANK YOU WELL I.

01:38 - 54.580 >>IF YOU REMEMBER, LET'S JUST

01:38 - 55.010 WATCH.

01:38 - 57.600 THANK YOU CHIEF, NO QUESTIONS

01:38 - 59.750 FOR MISTER MCNEILL. THIS IS

01:38 - 01.510 MONEY. I HAVE

01:39 - 03.940 NO QUESTIONS. THIS IS THERE.

01:39 - 07.830 YOUR NEW MATH.

01:39 - 13.940 AND IT'S

01:39 - 15.580 A GAME. THANK THANK YOU

01:39 - 17.040 JESS IS GONNA LIVE AT GIANTS

01:39 - 22.450 SIGN OR ANY OF MY HAHA I

01:39 - 24.610 APPRECIATE IT. VERY SUMMER

01:39 - 26.960 EVERYBODY ELSE. BUT I DON'T I'M

01:39 - 29.190 A SLOW TO ACCEPT YOUR

01:39 - 32.740 UNDERLYING PREMISE THAT 18

01:39 - 34.760 ONE '02 IS GEORGE

01:39 - 37.240 FICTIONAL STATUTE. THE AND THE

01:39 - 39.610 INTO 9 USUAL CASE IN IN THAT.

01:39 - 41.470 IF YOU LOOK

01:39 - 44.420 AT THE RUG. THE DRUG DEVICE

01:39 - 46.180 COSMETIC ACT AND SAYS IT HAS

01:39 - 46.650 MET WITH

01:39 - 48.790 IN PENNSYLVANIA. UNTIL THEN HE

01:39 - 50.640 BECOMES A DEFINED TERM MAY BE

01:39 - 52.360 AMBIGUOUS TERM UNDER THIS

01:39 - 55.130 UNUSUAL CASE AND AND WHAT I DO

01:39 - 56.480 IS NOT JURISDICTION. ITS

01:39 - 58.980 TERRITORIAL APPLICABILITY IT

01:39 - 01.370 SAYS FOR PURPOSES OF THE CRIMES

01:40 - 01.720 CODE.

01:40 - 05.690 >>IF YOU BUY DRUGS. IN

01:40 - 07.710 ANOTHER STATE, WHICH IS WHAT

01:40 - 08.540 HAPPENED HERE IT CAN BE

01:40 - 09.760 CALIFORNIA, YOU'RE RIGHT.

01:40 - 12.680 B ANYWHERE IT CAN BE A WIFE.

01:40 - 14.670 YOU BUY DRUGS AND OTHER STATE.

01:40 - 17.210 HE COME BACK HERE AND YOU DIE

01:40 - 19.280 HERE THAT THE TERRITORIAL

01:40 - 20.830 APPLICABILITY OF PENNSYLVANIA

01:40 - 22.380 WOULD INCLUDE THAT TRANSACTION.

01:40 - 25.580 IN THE END SEEMS TO LINCHPIN OF

01:40 - 26.710 YOUR CASES THIS ISN'T

01:40 - 28.160 JURISDICTIONAL SECTION. I DON'T

01:40 - 28.970 KNOW WHERE YOU GET THAT.

01:40 - 32.370 WELL I THINK THAT IT'S IT'S A

01:40 - 35.240 VERY GENERAL. IT WAS VERY

01:40 - 35.640 GENTLE

01:40 - 36.240 WITH ABILITY.

01:40 - 38.700 >>IN BACK THROUGHOUT THE BREEZE

01:40 - 40.140 AND I THINK THE PLANS TO RECORD

01:40 - 41.460 IT WAS REFERRED TO AS I

01:40 - 43.110 UNDERSTOOD IT. IF YOU'RE

01:40 - 45.280 A SECTIONAL STEPS YOU KNOW I

01:40 - 46.750 THINK A LOT OF CASES FOR REFER

01:40 - 48.470 TO IT AS SUCH AS WELL NOW WE

01:40 - 49.330 TALKED ABOUT

01:40 - 51.250 IT'S A NEW GENERAL PORTION OF

01:40 - 52.940 THE CRIMES GO TALKING ABOUT

01:40 - 54.330 WINNING THE PROSECUTION CAN BE

01:40 - 55.400 BROUGHT IN PENNSYLVANIA AND

01:40 - 57.370 WHEN THEY CAN'T SO I CERTAINLY

01:40 - 58.950 KNEW IT AS A

01:40 - 01.830 JURISDICTIONAL MATTER. BUT I

01:41 - 04.190 WANT YOU TO ANSWER WHY ISN'T

01:41 - 06.090 THE WORD PENNSYLVANIA UNDER THE

01:41 - 09.100 ADMITTEDLY UNUSUAL. FACTS IN

01:41 - 09.720 THIS CASE.

01:41 - 12.940 >>SUBJECT IN CONSTRUCTION IN

01:41 - 14.290 THE LEGISLATURE, CONSTRUED IT

01:41 - 15.070 MEANT IT IN THE

01:41 - 17.210 TERRITORIAL APPLICABILITY TO

01:41 - 19.060 INCLUDE WHEN SOMEBODY DIES

01:41 - 20.250 WITHIN OUR STATE WHICH

01:41 - 21.500 CERTAINLY OUR LEGISLATURE HAS

01:41 - 23.230 AN INTEREST IN AS A RESULT OF

01:41 - 24.120 DRUGS WHAT ELSE.

01:41 - 27.650 >>I THINK IT DOES INCLUDE I

01:41 - 28.540 THINK THAT I THINK THAT

01:41 - 29.430 INCLUDES

01:41 - 32.680 THE DEATH. HAVING OCCURRED IN

01:41 - 34.170 PENNSYLVANIA BECAUSE THAT MEANS

01:41 - 35.050 ONE OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE

01:41 - 36.450 OFFENSE AND HEARD OCCURRED IN

01:41 - 38.490 PENNSYLVANIA. BUT UNDER THE WAY

01:41 - 40.370 THE ACTORS READING IT'S NOT

01:41 - 41.880 THAT DEATH THIS ROBOT IS THE

01:41 - 44.320 DELIVER IS THE DELIVERY THAT

01:41 - 44.780 OCCURRED

01:41 - 47.840 100% IN MARYLAND AND NOT AT ALL

01:41 - 48.880 WITHIN THE COMMONWEALTH OF

01:41 - 49.500 PENNSYLVANIA.

01:41 - 52.110 JUST THE FACT THAT LOOK VERY

01:41 - 53.150 GOOD AT YOU

01:41 - 55.370 GO AHEAD. JUST TO GET BACK TO

01:41 - 56.630 WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH THIS IS

01:41 - 58.030 NOT A VIEW WAS SAYING EARLIER

01:41 - 00.250 ABOUT POSSIBLE CONFLICT BETWEEN

01:42 - 01.840 THESE 2 PROVISIONS. I JUST

01:42 - 03.720 THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO

01:42 - 05.510 REMEMBER THAT THAT'S A GENERAL

01:42 - 06.730 PROVISION THAT TALKS ABOUT WHEN

01:42 - 08.410 PROSECUTIONS COULD BE BROAD SO

01:42 - 09.050 BEING YOU

01:42 - 11.190 AT ALL I'M SENSITIVE TO WHICH

01:42 - 12.840 IS GONE AND YOU SAID ABOUT THE

01:42 - 15.270 LANGUAGE REGARDING THE VICTIM.

01:42 - 17.000 BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT CAN

01:42 - 18.190 YOU READ IN SUCH A WAY THAT

01:42 - 20.580 SOMEONE ALL OF THE OVERRIDE

01:42 - 22.560 EVERYTHING THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL

01:42 - 24.160 STATUTE MIGHT HAVE TO SAY IN

01:42 - 26.090 SYLVANIA BUT THE OMENS OF IN A

01:42 - 26.810 SENSE.

01:42 - 29.540 CERTAINLY THE FACT THAT SOMEONE

01:42 - 30.910 MAY BE CONVICTED IN

01:42 - 32.170 PENNSYLVANIA WHEN THE

01:42 - 33.540 OVERRIDING NEED TO PROVE THE

01:42 - 34.950 ELEMENTS OF ANOTHER OFFENSE.

01:42 - 35.350 IT'S

01:42 - 38.740 A MURDER. IF THE ODDS OF MURDER

01:42 - 38.970 AND I

01:42 - 40.840 COMPLETELY PROVEN EVEN IF

01:42 - 42.600 SOMEONE MAY BE CONVICTED OF THE

01:42 - 44.250 OFFENSE. THEY WEREN'T CONVICTED

01:42 - 44.610 OF IT.

01:42 - 46.190 IF THERE'S FAILURE PROOF BEYOND

01:42 - 47.110 A REASONABLE DOUBT OF ONE OF

01:42 - 48.420 THE OLD CITY A FACT THAT'S

01:42 - 49.680 EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE HERE TO

01:42 - 52.790 THE WARNING THE ACT. THANK YOU

01:42 - 53.470 THANK YOU CHIEF.

01:42 - 54.320 >>THANK YOU

01:42 - 58.950 >>ASCOT ON TO IT SEEMS TO ME

01:42 - 01.440 THAT THAT IS SURE.

01:43 - 03.790 ASKED CLEAREST

01:43 - 06.210 ARGUMENT THAT ALTHOUGH YOU MAY

01:43 - 08.460 BE CONVICTED IN MAY NOT BE

01:43 - 10.000 PROSECUTED UNDER THIS

01:43 - 11.360 PARTICULAR STEP IT.

01:43 - 13.840 >>CAUSE THE ELEMENTS. AND YOU

01:43 - 15.470 COULD BE PROSECUTED UNDER OATH.

01:43 - 19.430 SHE SAID. DIVISION.

01:43 - 21.880 I'M SORRY I TALKED OVER THERE.

01:43 - 27.000 >>THANK YOU MISTER A DEAL WE

01:43 - 29.540 UNDERSTAND

01:43 - 34.070 AND WE WILL HEAR

01:43 - 36.230 FROM MATH. THE COMMONWEALTH.

01:43 - 39.750 >>GOOD MORNING, I'M JAMES ACTED

01:43 - 40.720 TOO MUCH ON BEHALF

01:43 - 42.790 OF YOU. THIS CARRIES OFFICE

01:43 - 43.620 BEHALF OF COME WITH

01:43 - 45.410 PENNSYLVANIA, I'M PLEASED THE

01:43 - 45.720 COURT.

01:43 - 49.190 KEY ISSUE IN THIS CASE IS

01:43 - 51.050 APPLICATION OF BE A

01:43 - 53.030 DRUG ACT PREAMBLE PROVISION

01:43 - 54.660 UNDER SUBSECTION BAY WHICH

01:43 - 57.050 PRECEDED ALL THE ACTUAL TRAIN

01:43 - 58.760 BE PROHIBITED VIOLATIONS.

01:43 - 00.800 IT STATES QUOTE THE

01:44 - 03.050 FOLLOWING ACTS AND CAUSING

01:44 - 04.500 THEIR OWN WITHIN THE COMMON LAW

01:44 - 05.630 ARE HEREBY PROHIBITED.

01:44 - 08.230 I WOULD NOTE THAT THIS PREAMBLE

01:44 - 11.470 PROVISION IS NOT REFERRED TO IN

01:44 - 13.180 THE DRUG DELIVERY IN THE.

01:44 - 16.450 THEY DID YARDY STATUTE. DID YOU

01:44 - 19.260 R D STATUTE. SPECIFICALLY YOUR

01:44 - 21.160 FIRST 2 QUOTE SECTION

01:44 - 23.760 1430 OF

01:44 - 24.920 THE ACT. IT DOES NOT

01:44 - 26.480 INCORPORATE ITS PREAMBLE

01:44 - 28.180 PROVISION IF THE PREAMBLE

01:44 - 30.090 PROVISION IS AN ELEMENT OF THE

01:44 - 30.810 FACE OF

01:44 - 32.150 THE OFFENSE. AND THE

01:44 - 34.410 LEGISLATURE HAS EXCLUDED THAT

01:44 - 35.870 PREAMBLE PROVISION FROM BEING

01:44 - 37.150 AN ELEMENT BY NOT INCLUDING IT.

01:44 - 40.460 IT'S A QUESTION OF TERRITORIAL

01:44 - 41.210 CLICK ABILITY.

01:44 - 44.530 PLACEMENT OF EDD RD STATUE IN

01:44 - 47.260 TITLE 18. BECAUSE THE TITLE 18

01:44 - 48.880 TERRITORY APPLICABILITY EAST

01:44 - 51.410 SECTION TO HAVE SUPPRESSED OVER

01:44 - 53.630 BEING DRUG DELIVERY. THE DRUG

01:44 - 56.430 ACT. TERRITORIAL CLICK GO

01:44 - 57.450 DEEPER AFTER A VISION.

01:45 - 04.230 IN ADDITION TO THE TERRITORY UP

01:45 - 05.350 TO THE BOY ARGUMENTS.

01:45 - 09.210 FOR PRESUMING THAT THE DEFENSE

01:45 - 10.560 COUNSEL ARGUED WAS ENTIRELY

01:45 - 12.620 CORRECT. THIS PARTICULAR CASE

01:45 - 13.890 CONTAINS UNIQUE FACTUAL

01:45 - 16.320 ELEMENTS IN THE THIS CASE.

01:45 - 18.280 THE DELIVERY. THE ACTUAL

01:45 - 19.800 TRANSFER GET OCCUR IN MARYLAND.

01:45 - 21.960 HOWEVER, PRIOR TO THE VICTIM

01:45 - 23.410 CONSUMING THE DRUGS. HE

01:45 - 25.560 CONTINUED TO RECEIVE ONGOING

01:45 - 27.550 TECH SUPPORT FROM THE EU FROM

01:45 - 29.560 THE DEFENDANT TEXT HIM HOW TO

01:45 - 29.760 USE

01:45 - 31.620 THE DRUGS. THE VICTIM DIDN'T

01:45 - 33.000 EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE THE

01:45 - 34.740 TAPE OF HEROIN YOU SO YOU NEED

01:45 - 37.220 TO CONTACT THE SELLER. AND ONCE

01:45 - 38.310 HE WAS TOLD HOW TO SELL IT.

01:45 - 40.470 HOW TO USE IT USED IT AND

01:45 - 42.460 THEN EXPRESSED HOW STRONG WAS

01:45 - 43.820 HOW UNIQUELY STRONG IT WAS.

01:45 - 46.270 THE DETAILS OF THAT ELEMENT OF

01:45 - 47.800 THE BE TEXT MESSAGE TRANSFER OF

01:45 - 48.780 POWER, INCLUDING MY BIRD.

01:45 - 55.400 JUSTICE TANI YOU HAVE ANY

01:45 - 56.670 QUESTIONS. YEAH, YES,

01:45 - 57.090 THEY DO.

01:45 - 59.660 >>ON THE COUNCIL ON BACK TO

01:45 - 02.120 SECTION ONE '02. I WISH

01:46 - 04.550 I'D YOU'RE OPPOSING COUNSEL AND

01:46 - 06.230 THE COURT TO BEAT HER TO BE A

01:46 - 08.460 JURISDICTIONAL ON PROBATION.

01:46 - 09.500 >>ON.

01:46 - 12.700 >>I CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO SOME

01:46 - 14.160 SECTIONS SEX.

01:46 - 19.900 OF ICE ONE '02 OR CSN SECTION

01:46 - 21.750 SEX. AND

01:46 - 23.970 THIS PARTICULAR SUBSECTION.

01:46 - 27.730 APPLY TO A PENNSYLVANIA'S

01:46 - 30.250 STATUTE THAT EXPRESSLY

01:46 - 31.900 PROHIBITS CONDUCT.

01:46 - 34.400 THAT OCCURS OUTSIDE THE COMMON

01:46 - 34.660 LAW.

01:46 - 38.840 AND SO WE HAVE A PROBATION IN

01:46 - 41.200 THE CRIMES CODE IN SECTION ONE

01:46 - 41.840 '02.

01:46 - 44.280 WHERE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

01:46 - 46.700 ANTICIPATED THAT THERE MAY BE

01:46 - 50.130 A STATUTE. THAT IS EXPRESSLY A

01:46 - 52.500 CLICKABLE TO CONDUCT THAT

01:46 - 54.830 OCCURS OUTSIDE OF PENNSYLVANIA.

01:46 - 58.220 AND THIS STATUE COMES ONLINE IN

01:46 - 01.080 SOME SECTIONS STACKS TO REQUIRE

01:47 - 02.110 THE COURT.

01:47 - 05.280 SHE DO A BALANCING OF INTERESTS

01:47 - 08.760 TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT

01:47 - 10.740 YOU'RE IN SHOULD

01:47 - 13.630 BE EXERCISE UNDER THAT

01:47 - 15.510 PARTICULAR CREATION.

01:47 - 18.540 I FIND IT

01:47 - 21.810 HARD TO GRAPPLE WITH YOUR

01:47 - 23.700 POSITION THAT

01:47 - 27.480 THIS STATUE OVER RI, ANOTHER

01:47 - 29.820 PROVISION OF PENNSYLVANIA LAW

01:47 - 31.920 THAT REQUIRES UNDOCKED THAT

01:47 - 33.760 ACTUALLY OCCURS IN THE

01:47 - 35.330 COMMONWEALTH AND STATE.

01:47 - 37.860 AND COULD YOU HELP ME WITH THAT

01:47 - 40.070 BECAUSE SOME SECTIONS THAT WE

01:47 - 40.600 SLOW

01:47 - 43.080 CAN BE WHEN YOU NEED TO

01:47 - 45.230 RELY ON LINE AT THE GENERAL

01:47 - 47.310 ASSEMBLY WRITTEN THAT IT WAS A

01:47 - 49.110 VIOLATION OF WHY HE STILL

01:47 - 49.830 DRIVES

01:47 - 52.360 ANYWHERE. IN WHICH CASE THE

01:47 - 54.010 TRIAL COURT WOULD HAVE TO SAY

01:47 - 55.470 WHAT BUSINESS IS IT OF

01:47 - 57.100 PENNSYLVANIA TO CONTROL THE

01:47 - 59.860 SALE OF DRIVE ANYWHERE. CAN YOU

01:47 - 00.660 HELP ME WITH THAT.

01:48 - 03.500 YES YOU'RE IN THIS PARTICULAR

01:48 - 06.070 CASE, THE THE DELIVERY OF

01:48 - 09.130 THE DRUGS. IS SIMPLY A MOMENT

01:48 - 10.490 THAT OCCURRED OUTSIDE

01:48 - 11.230 OF PENNSYLVANIA.

01:48 - 12.890 >>THE MEANING CURRY IS

01:48 - 14.940 REGARDING THE HOMICIDE ASPECT

01:48 - 16.110 AND THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE THAT

01:48 - 18.010 THIS FALLS MORE UNDER A

01:48 - 18.830 GENERAL RULE.

01:48 - 23.110 SUBSECTION ONE 7 AND THE UNI

01:48 - 25.770 LATER IN THE 3RD SECTION 4.

01:48 - 28.620 >>CHECKS YEAH, I UNDERSTAND

01:48 - 30.290 THAT UNITED ANSWERING MY

01:48 - 31.150 QUESTION

01:48 - 32.800 ABOUT IT. THE GENERAL

01:48 - 33.580 ASSEMBLY'S

01:48 - 37.140 ANTICIPATION BATH. I MIGHT

01:48 - 39.240 WRITE A STATUTE THAT COUNTY TO

01:48 - 39.670 BRING IT

01:48 - 41.380 TO BE I'M GOING TO BE CONDUCT

01:48 - 43.420 THAT OCCURRED SOMEWHERE ELSE.

01:48 - 45.870 A PROVISION FOR WHY THE

01:48 - 47.870 TRIAL COURT SUPPOSED TO DO OR

01:48 - 49.440 IN DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT

01:48 - 52.610 THE CASE. I CONTINUE WITHIN

01:48 - 54.050 THAT PARTICULAR COURT OF COMMON

01:48 - 54.640 PLEAS.

01:48 - 57.370 THERE'S NO QUESTION I MEAN I

01:48 - 59.770 THINK YOU YOU YOU AND ME AT

01:48 - 00.260 THAT.

01:49 - 04.430 I'D BE ON I-DRIVE DIED CONTROL

01:49 - 06.450 AFTER THAT WE HAVE A SEAT HERE

01:49 - 08.890 ON SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES

01:49 - 09.790 CONTACT WITHIN THE

01:49 - 10.880 COMMONWEALTH. I MEAN

01:49 - 12.670 THEY COULD THEY COULD STAND IN

01:49 - 14.200 THIS I'D RUN TO LITERALLY

01:49 - 15.720 RESULTING IN DEATH THEY COULD

01:49 - 17.190 NOT REFERRED TO

01:49 - 19.210 ON THAT PARTICULAR PENNSYLVANIA

01:49 - 20.780 STATUTE IN THE HUNDREDS DEAD.

01:49 - 23.380 ANY DRUG DELIVERY THAT RESULTS

01:49 - 24.080 IN DEATH.

01:49 - 27.680 IS ON THIS FIRST DEGREE FELONY

01:49 - 28.800 BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE D A.

01:49 - 33.630 >>YOUR OWN IN REGARDS TO THE

01:49 - 35.510 ELEMENT THAT THE DRUG ACT.

01:49 - 37.400 DELIVERY OCCUR IN THE

01:49 - 39.050 COMMONWEALTH. THAT'S NOT

01:49 - 39.910 ENTIRELY

01:49 - 43.250 REPRESENTATION OF WHAT BE A

01:49 - 44.800 SECOND DRUG DELIVERY DEVICE

01:49 - 46.450 COSMETIC ACT ACTUALLY STATES.

01:49 - 48.330 IT SAYS THE FOLLOWING ACTS

01:49 - 50.040 WITHIN THE COMMONWEALTH AND THE

01:49 - 51.750 CAUSING THEIR OF WITHIN THE

01:49 - 53.850 COMMENTS. IF THE LEGISLATURE

01:49 - 56.250 HAD PLACED THE DDR THE STATUTE

01:49 - 59.220 INTO TITLE 35 NEED THE DRUG THE

01:49 - 59.760 DRUG ACT.

01:50 - 02.460 SOME AT LET'S SAY THEY PLACED

01:50 - 04.200 AT THE END I BELIEVE SUBSECTION

01:50 - 06.370 40 IS STILL OPEN. IT'S A PLACE

01:50 - 08.490 IN SUBSECTION 40. THE FACT THAT

01:50 - 10.390 THE DEATHS OCCURRED IN

01:50 - 12.410 PENNSYLVANIA. IF THE DELIVERY

01:50 - 14.280 STILL HAPPENED IN MARYLAND.

01:50 - 16.470 AND IT WAS UNDER THIS TEST.

01:50 - 18.810 ACTS AND THE CAUSING THEIR OF

01:50 - 20.490 WITHIN THE COMMON LAW. THE

01:50 - 21.910 CAUSE OF THE DEATH WITHIN THE

01:50 - 23.000 COMMONWEALTH WOULD HAVE

01:50 - 25.320 SATISFIED. THE STATUTE EVEN IF

01:50 - 26.360 IT WAS ENTIRELY UNDER

01:50 - 26.890 THE DRUG.

01:50 - 29.220 >>AND THEY COUNCIL THE COUNCIL

01:50 - 30.570 OF A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE TO

01:50 - 32.240 BACK DOESN'T DEAL WITH YEAH.

01:50 - 34.930 THE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES ACT

01:50 - 35.930 IN THE SECTION THAT YOU'RE

01:50 - 37.680 REFERRING TO REVERSE YOU'VE

01:50 - 37.820 BEEN

01:50 - 39.470 FOLLOWING APP LET'S JUST SAY

01:50 - 41.760 THE DELIVERY OF DRUGS IN

01:50 - 43.300 CAUSING THE AIR ON WITHIN THE

01:50 - 45.230 COMMONWEALTH WHICH WOULD BE THE

01:50 - 46.710 DELIVERY OF DRUGS WITHIN

01:50 - 49.240 THE COMMONWEALTH, A STATUE THAT

01:50 - 50.960 IS ONE OF THE PREDICATE FOR THE

01:50 - 52.950 PROSECUTION UNDER THE GENTLE

01:50 - 53.900 LIVERY RESULTING

01:50 - 56.280 IN DEATH. THIS PARTICULAR PARTY

01:50 - 57.800 THAT ONLY DEALS WITH THE

01:50 - 58.920 DELIVERY SHOT.

01:51 - 02.040 >>THAT'S CORRECT YOUR HONOR

01:51 - 03.590 AND WHEN THE TRIAL COURT DID

01:51 - 05.130 ITS VALUE TO ASIAN AS TO

01:51 - 05.740 WHETHER OR NOT

01:51 - 09.060 JURISDICTION EXISTED. EVALUATED

01:51 - 10.650 THE STEP THE DRUG DELIVERY

01:51 - 11.830 RESULTING IN DEATH STATUTE AS A

01:51 - 13.480 WHOLE AND FOCUSED ON THE FACT

01:51 - 15.270 THAT THE QUESTION OF WHETHER AN

01:51 - 16.700 ELEMENT OF THE OFFENSE. IT

01:51 - 18.540 OCCUR IN PENNSYLVANIA. THE FACT

01:51 - 18.920 THAT THEY

01:51 - 20.820 THE DEATH AND IT'S BASICALLY A

01:51 - 21.860 CONTROVERSY THAT THE DEATH

01:51 - 22.300 OCCURRED

01:51 - 24.390 IN PENNSYLVANIA. THE DEATH

01:51 - 26.420 BEING THE MORE SERIOUS ASPECT

01:51 - 27.960 OF THIS OFFENSE THAT YOU NEED

01:51 - 28.980 TO COUNSEL YOU NEED

01:51 - 30.260 BOTH HEARTS.

01:51 - 33.150 >>BE KIND TO DELIVERY RESULTING

01:51 - 35.500 IN DEATH STATUTE GET YOURSELF

01:51 - 36.590 A CONVICTION.

01:51 - 38.660 >>AND THE FIRST IS A VIOLATION

01:51 - 39.280 OF THE CONTROLLED

01:51 - 41.850 SUBSTANCES ACT. WE DO THAT

01:51 - 43.770 WHICH REQUIRES IT TO OCCUR IN

01:51 - 44.480 THE COMMONWEALTH.

01:51 - 47.560 WE ARE AT AS THE STATUE OR

01:51 - 48.590 FIRST THE CONTROLLED

01:51 - 49.500 SUBSTANCES ACT.

01:51 - 51.470 >>THE DRUG DELIVERY RESULTING

01:51 - 52.420 IN DEATH STATUTE DOES NOT

01:51 - 54.330 INCORPORATE REQUIREMENT THAT

01:51 - 55.460 THE DELIVERY OF CURRENT

01:51 - 56.880 PENNSYLVANIA, EVERYTHING THAT

01:51 - 58.720 IS EXCLUDED FROM THE DRUG

01:51 - 59.850 DELIVERY RESULTING IN DEATH

01:51 - 01.430 STATUTE NOW I'VE GOT NO DOES

01:52 - 02.790 NOT COUNT I MEAN UNLESS I'M

01:52 - 04.360 MISSING SOMETHING EACH AND

01:52 - 05.790 EVERY RESULTING IN DEATH

01:52 - 08.750 REQUIRES A VIOLATION OF THE

01:52 - 10.850 CONTROL OFFENSE INTO THAT LIFE

01:52 - 11.250 AGAIN.

01:52 - 14.980 IT REQUIRES A VIOLATION OF

01:52 - 17.970 THAT CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES ACT.

01:52 - 21.030 YES, YOUR WHAT IT REQUIRES A

01:52 - 22.490 VIOLATION OF THAT PROVISION,

01:52 - 24.140 THE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES ACT.

01:52 - 26.630 TO THAT AND BECOME A LITTLE

01:52 - 27.930 TOUGHER TO ITS BRIEF COME ALL

01:52 - 30.410 FORCES GERALD AND THE FEDERAL

01:52 - 32.830 CASE IS PURE BETWEEN A

01:52 - 34.470 VIOLATION IS NOT SYNONYMOUS

01:52 - 36.090 WITH CONVICTION. AND DOES NOT

01:52 - 37.320 REQUIRE EVEN THE ABILITY TO

01:52 - 38.260 OBTAIN A CONVICTION.

01:52 - 40.680 IN GENERAL A DEFENDANT WAS

01:52 - 42.450 CHARGED WITH POSSESSION OF

01:52 - 44.110 CONTRABAND INTO PRISON OR

01:52 - 45.110 POSSESSING A SMALL AMOUNT OF

01:52 - 47.030 MARIJUANA. EITHER THE

01:52 - 48.940 CONTRABAND STATUE DOES NOT

01:52 - 50.300 INCLUDE SMALL AMOUNT OF

01:52 - 51.640 MARIJUANA AS AN OFFENSE TO

01:52 - 53.750 WHICH THAT WOULD INVOKE BE.

01:52 - 56.030 THE CONTRABAND PURRS PROVISION

01:52 - 58.260 GENERALLY POSSESSION OF

01:52 - 59.490 CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE TEST.

01:52 - 01.080 NOW IT'S ON POSSESSES A SMALL

01:53 - 02.770 AMOUNT OF MARIJUANA IN THEORY.

01:53 - 04.230 IT COULD ALSO VIOLATE

01:53 - 06.790 THE POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED

01:53 - 09.190 SUBSTANCE STATUTE. HOWEVER, AND

01:53 - 10.360 ARE CONSIDERING A CASE LAW.

01:53 - 12.170 IF YOU VIOLATE SMALL AMOUNT

01:53 - 14.160 YOU'RE NOT TO BE CONVICTED OF

01:53 - 16.430 THE IN THE HIGHER FENCE OF

01:53 - 17.650 POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED

01:53 - 19.510 SUBSTANCE. THEREFORE WHILE IT

01:53 - 19.970 UNDER.

01:53 - 22.380 GARY. WELL WHILE IT'S

01:53 - 24.050 IMPOSSIBLE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL

01:53 - 25.050 POSSESSING A SMALL AMOUNT OF

01:53 - 26.390 MARIJUANA TO BE CONVICTED

01:53 - 28.710 OF SIMPLE POSSESSION UNDER

01:53 - 30.200 SECTION 14 OF THE DRUG ACT.

01:53 - 33.800 IT'S OFFICIAL OR CHARACTER FOR

01:53 - 34.940 THIS TYPE OF SITUATION.

01:53 - 37.550 THE VIOLATION ISN'T THE

01:53 - 39.630 VIOLATION ELEMENT IS MET NOT

01:53 - 40.660 NOT THAT CONVICTION CAN

01:53 - 43.030 BE OBTAINED. BUT AT YOUR

01:53 - 44.820 ACCOUNTS SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO

01:53 - 46.270 SOME OF THE OTHER JUSTICES MAY

01:53 - 47.000 HAVE QUESTIONS.

01:53 - 48.990 >>WE'LL TURN YOU ADJUST

01:53 - 49.560 DAUGHERTY.

01:53 - 53.100 >>I GAIN RISK MY QUESTION.

01:53 - 55.020 GOOD GOOD AFTERNOON.

01:53 - 56.620 >>I WANT MY QUESTION IS A

01:53 - 58.850 FOLLOW-UP OF JUST A STUNNING.

01:53 - 01.990 A VIOLATION OF THE CONTROLLED

01:54 - 02.660 SUBSTANCE.

01:54 - 06.060 IS AN ESSENTIAL ELEMENT IN THE

01:54 - 08.070 DRUG DELIVERY RESULTING IN

01:54 - 10.100 DEATH. THE VIOLATION OF THE

01:54 - 11.970 CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE ACT IS

01:54 - 13.880 GEOGRAPHICALLY RESTRICTED TO

01:54 - 14.740 THE COMMON.

01:54 - 19.280 HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY. I'M HAVING

01:54 - 21.630 A VIOLATION WITH A

01:54 - 23.540 AND B CONFINES OF THE

01:54 - 24.380 GEOGRAPHICAL

01:54 - 26.580 COMMON WELL TO SOME WHO ARE

01:54 - 28.240 YOUR CONVICTION FOR DRUG

01:54 - 29.740 DELIVERY RESULTING IN DEATH.

01:54 - 35.160 >>THE WAY THAT THIS CAN TAKE

01:54 - 36.880 YOUR STATUTES RAIN AS I'VE

01:54 - 37.990 MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THIS

01:54 - 39.910 STATUE DOES NOT INCORPORATE

01:54 - 41.620 THE TERRITORIAL PUT ABILITY

01:54 - 43.280 PRESENT PROVISION OF THE DRUG

01:54 - 44.690 ACT AND THEREFORE IT SHOULD

01:54 - 45.760 DEFAULT TO THE TERRITORIAL

01:54 - 47.410 CLICK BELIEBERS A POSITION OF

01:54 - 49.720 TITLE 18. HOWEVER, TO GET MORE

01:54 - 50.840 DIRECTLY TO ANSWER THIS

01:54 - 52.930 QUESTION. WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL.

01:54 - 55.340 LET'S SAY APPLYING THE

01:54 - 57.070 SAME STATUTE. LET'S SAY YOU'RE

01:54 - 59.500 A BUT ONLINE PHARMACY IN

01:54 - 01.590 ANOTHER STATE. OR A

01:55 - 03.290 DISTRIBUTOR. LIVERS A.

01:55 - 05.610 AMOUNT OF A CONTROLLED

01:55 - 07.500 SUBSTANCE TO FARSI JUST ACROSS

01:55 - 09.370 THE LINE IN MARYLAND. LET'S SAY

01:55 - 11.560 THAT THEY'VE AND ONLY PURCHASED

01:55 - 13.380 A BULK OF CONTRABAND CONTROLLED

01:55 - 14.780 SUBSTANCE WHICH FALLS UNDER

01:55 - 15.220 ACTOR.

01:55 - 18.070 A PERSON IN PENNSYLVANIA DRIVES

01:55 - 19.120 ACROSS THE BORDER TO THEIR

01:55 - 20.370 NEAREST PHARMACY IN MARYLAND,

01:55 - 22.610 I'S THE DRUGS THAT THEY BELIEVE

01:55 - 23.880 THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO GET WITH

01:55 - 24.490 A PRESCRIPTION

01:55 - 26.390 COMES HOME AND TAKING THIS

01:55 - 27.630 COULD COUNTERFEIT CONTROLLED

01:55 - 29.890 SUBSTANCE. ALL RIGHT. I THINK

01:55 - 31.000 IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF THE

01:55 - 32.490 COMMONWEALTH TO BE ABLE TO GO

01:55 - 33.520 AFTER THE INDIVIDUAL.

01:55 - 35.690 THEY. CAUSE THIS CONTROLLED

01:55 - 36.770 SUBSTANCE WAS COUNTERFEIT

01:55 - 37.730 CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE IN THIS

01:55 - 39.010 CASE. STILL UNDER THE SAME

01:55 - 40.980 SUBSECTION SECTION 30 OF THE

01:55 - 42.300 DRUG DELIVERY DEVICE KOZNICK

01:55 - 42.470 AT.

01:55 - 44.970 IT COULD BE SUBJECT TO

01:55 - 45.950 PROSECUTION TO CAUSING THE

01:55 - 46.320 DEATH.

01:55 - 48.160 >>COUNCIL JUST HYPOTHETICALLY

01:55 - 48.600 SPEAKING.

01:55 - 51.560 THE VIOLATION OF SECTION 13 AID

01:55 - 52.930 WOULD YOU LOOK VERY THAT WOULD

01:55 - 55.120 IN WHO IS ACTUALLY CORRECT IF

01:55 - 56.060 I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

01:55 - 58.210 >>A SIMPLE POSSESSION UNDER 14,

01:55 - 58.560 YES.

01:55 - 00.820 >>NOW MY UNDERSTANDING BASED

01:56 - 02.270 UPON THESE FACTS IS THAT HER

01:56 - 04.260 WHEN HER WE HAVE ARE WHEN WAS

01:56 - 05.920 FOUND ON THE TABLE.

01:56 - 08.810 >>ON THE NIGHT STAND WHEN HE.

01:56 - 10.230 WHEN THEY FOUND THE BODY.

01:56 - 15.560 SO HAD YOU CHARGE HIM WITH

01:56 - 16.460 POSSESSION.

01:56 - 18.600 AT THAT TIME AS OPPOSED TO

01:56 - 19.710 DELIVERY FOR WHICH WAS

01:56 - 21.430 DISTRAUGHT WOULD THAT NOT HAVE

01:56 - 22.660 BEEN MUCH STRONGER CASE FOR THE

01:56 - 24.640 COM. WELL BECAUSE IN FACT HE

01:56 - 25.500 COULD HAVE BEEN

01:56 - 27.350 CONVICTED OF VIOLATION AND

01:56 - 28.640 POSSESSION DESPITE THE FACT

01:56 - 30.580 THAT HE'S DEAD. AS OPPOSED

01:56 - 32.510 TO DELIVERY. WHEN YOU SAY

01:56 - 33.880 VIOLATION WHERE IS THE

01:56 - 36.140 VIOLATION WITH IN. THE

01:56 - 37.710 CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE ACT WITHIN

01:56 - 38.380 YOUR BACK.

01:56 - 41.250 >>THE OWNER OF THE VIOLATION IS

01:56 - 42.380 THE DELIVERY OF CONTROLLED

01:56 - 44.340 SUBSTANCE AND CAUSING THE

01:56 - 45.570 DELIVERY TO OCCUR WITHIN

01:56 - 47.340 PENNSYLVANIA. NOW IN THIS CASE,

01:56 - 48.590 THE AND THE VICTIM

01:56 - 50.620 IN THERE. HE PURCHASED AT THE

01:56 - 51.960 DEFENDANT'S HOUSE WHICH IS JUST

01:56 - 53.040 ACROSS THE LINE IN MARYLAND.

01:56 - 55.190 IN RETURN HOME. IN THIS

01:56 - 56.340 PARTICULAR CASE WE HAVE THE

01:56 - 57.530 BONUS INFORMATION OF

01:56 - 00.250 THE VICTIM HAVING TO CONTACT

01:57 - 01.960 THE DEFENDANT TO OBTAIN THE

01:57 - 03.170 INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO USE THIS

01:57 - 03.630 TAPE OF

01:57 - 05.930 OF HEROIN. BASICALLY THIS

01:57 - 07.230 VICTIM HE ONLY USED THE

01:57 - 08.640 POWDERED HEROIN INSERTED

01:57 - 11.250 THIS TYPE WERE GREAT, YOU KNOW

01:57 - 13.060 YOUR THE FACT YOU CAN TELL SO.

01:57 - 14.390 >>WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE

01:57 - 15.460 HEART OF THE MATTER AND

01:57 - 17.730 I'M GOING TO ASK JUSTICE WORK

01:57 - 20.850 TO BE AS YOU QUESTION. YOU JUST

01:57 - 24.300 THIS MORNING COUNCIL. I I HAVE

01:57 - 24.970 A BOMB

01:57 - 27.330 QUESTIONS ABOUT SEVERAL OF YOUR

01:57 - 28.870 ARGUMENTS WILL TRY TO CONFINE

01:57 - 29.790 THEM TO A COUPLE.

01:57 - 33.340 >>IS YOUR ARGUMENT THAT EVEN

01:57 - 34.000 THOUGH.

01:57 - 37.180 THE ACTIVE DELIVERY OCCURRED IN

01:57 - 40.160 MARYLAND. BECAUSE THERE WERE.

01:57 - 42.580 >>TEXT MESSAGES BETWEEN A

01:57 - 44.470 PENNSYLVANIA AND MARYLAND ARE.

01:57 - 46.610 >>QUALIFY SOMEHOW FOR THE

01:57 - 47.210 STATUE.

01:57 - 50.120 THAT'S ONE

01:57 - 51.270 ARGUMENT TO MEET YOUR OWN OR

01:57 - 52.650 THAT'S NOT MY PRIMARY ARGUMENT

01:57 - 54.030 BUT THAT IS ONE ARGUMENT THAT

01:57 - 54.710 CAN BE MADE.

01:57 - 56.260 >>AND SO THEN.

01:57 - 59.090 YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE

01:57 - 00.470 REACH OF THE STATUE.

01:58 - 01.840 >>WELL.

01:58 - 05.310 >>ENCOMPASS.

01:58 - 07.650 ANYTHING OCCURRING ANYWHERE

01:58 - 08.940 OUTSIDE OF PENNSYLVANIA.

01:58 - 11.110 SO LONG AS IN PENNSYLVANIA IS

01:58 - 13.660 TEXTING WITH SOMEBODY OUTSIDE

01:58 - 14.380 OF OUR BORDERS.

01:58 - 17.000 IF THAT TEXTING RESULT IN THE

01:58 - 18.070 DEATH OF THE PENNSYLVANIA

01:58 - 19.440 WITHIN THE STATE OF THE

01:58 - 20.510 COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA,

01:58 - 21.480 ARGUABLY YES.

01:58 - 23.060 >>SHOULD YOU GO TO THE GENERAL

01:58 - 24.380 ASSEMBLY TO ASK THEM TO REWRITE

01:58 - 25.620 THE STATUTE INSTEAD OF COMING

01:58 - 26.080 TO US.

01:58 - 29.250 >>IF I HAD DONE SO YOUR HONOR I

01:58 - 30.270 BELIEVE THEY WOULD HAVE HAD THE

01:58 - 31.290 RIGHT THE STATUTE, THE WAY IT'S

01:58 - 33.210 CURRENTLY WRITTEN. ALL RIGHT

01:58 - 34.420 AND WITH REGARD TO THE WAY IT

01:58 - 34.510 IS

01:58 - 36.490 CURRENTLY WRITTEN YOU WANT US

01:58 - 40.350 TO READ SUBSECTIONS 1430.

01:58 - 46.450 SESSIONS 7 8113 WITHOUT.

01:58 - 47.520 SOME

01:58 - 50.620 HOW DO WE MAKE SENSE OF A CALL

01:58 - 52.590 OF A CLAUSE WITHOUT THE ARM

01:58 - 54.040 WITHOUT ITS BEGINNING.

01:58 - 56.430 THE HONORED BECAUSE THE

01:58 - 57.930 LEGISLATURE SPECIFICALLY DID

01:58 - 58.670 NOT INCLUDE THAT

01:58 - 00.730 BEGINNING SECTION. THE FALL THE

01:59 - 01.910 FOLLOWING ACTS AND CAUSING

01:59 - 02.890 THERE WITH A COUPLE OTHER

01:59 - 04.760 THEREBY APPROPRIATE THAT

01:59 - 06.070 PARTICULAR LANGUAGE IS SIMPLY

01:59 - 08.150 NOT INCLUDED. WE DON'T BELIEVE

01:59 - 09.950 IN THE DRUG DELIVERY STATUTES

01:59 - 10.240 ARE.

01:59 - 14.080 AFTER THE 13 YOU SEE THE THE

01:59 - 16.180 SUBSECTION A DON'T YES, YES,

01:59 - 18.270 YOU'RE RIGHT. THOUGH GIVEN THAT

01:59 - 20.180 YOU SEE THE SUBSECTION A THERE

01:59 - 22.850 IS A NONSENSICAL BARR ABOUT

01:59 - 25.830 1430. WITHOUT THEIR CALL OUT

01:59 - 26.940 CLAUSE IN A.

01:59 - 29.270 NO YOUR HONOR IN FACT I WOULD

01:59 - 30.810 ARGUE IT'S NECESSARY THE WAY

01:59 - 32.120 THAT THIS PARTICULAR STATUTE AS

01:59 - 33.640 WRITTEN. IT SPECIFICALLY

01:59 - 35.760 EXCLUDES PREAMBLE PROVISION,

01:59 - 37.180 THE PREAMBLE PROVISION IS AN

01:59 - 37.670 ELEMENT OF

01:59 - 39.620 THE OFFENSE. IT'S A JUROR'S IT

01:59 - 41.050 OR TO PUT THE BILLING IT IT'S

01:59 - 42.620 THE EQUIVALENT OF SECTION ONE

01:59 - 44.820 '02 OF TACKLING TEAM ONLY

01:59 - 46.440 APPLIES TO THE DRUG ACT BECAUSE

01:59 - 48.910 SECTION ONE OR 2 ONLY APPLYING

01:59 - 49.870 TO TELL THE TEAM WOULD NOT HAVE

01:59 - 50.970 APPLIED TO THE DRUG ACT ON ITS

01:59 - 53.540 OWN. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

01:59 - 57.660 >>ALMOST OUT OF TIME BUT DAD.

01:59 - 59.760 AND WE HAVE GOT.

02:00 - 03.770 WE ASKED JUST AS MONDAY SHOWS

02:00 - 04.910 ANY QUESTION YOU BEFORE WE

02:00 - 05.800 CONCLUDE.

02:00 - 08.900 >>AND NO QUESTIONS

02:00 - 11.350 THANK YOU. THEY WERE DOWN TO 2

02:00 - 13.810 MINUTES JUST TO SPARE. NO

02:00 - 15.060 QUESTIONS. THANK YOU CHIEF.

02:00 - 16.800 THAT'S JUST TIRED.

02:00 - 21.140 YES CHIEF JUST ONE QUICK

02:00 - 22.080 QUESTION.

02:00 - 24.450 >>THE COMMON WHILE THIS IS

02:00 - 27.050 UNDOUBTEDLY A TRAGIC CASE AND I

02:00 - 29.290 I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY IN

02:00 - 31.150 THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE

02:00 - 32.730 INTEREST OF THE CAR AND WHILE

02:00 - 34.410 TO BE ABLE TO PROSECUTE.

02:00 - 36.620 THIS CASE. THE

02:00 - 39.310 PROBLEM IS PROSECUTING THIS

02:00 - 41.100 CASE IN THE MAY ENTER THAT IT

02:00 - 43.790 WAS CHARGED, DOES NOT SEEM TO

02:00 - 45.590 ME TO BE POSSIBLE UNDER THIS

02:00 - 47.860 STATUTE AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU

02:00 - 50.270 ONE LAST CHANCE TO TELL ME I'M

02:00 - 50.670 WRONG.

02:00 - 56.130 >>THIS PARTICULAR STATUE

02:00 - 57.780 SIMPLY DOESN'T INCLUDE BEAT HER

02:00 - 59.640 TO A QUICK BILLY PROVISIONS OF

02:00 - 01.590 A DRUG DELIVERY DEVICES AS NECK

02:01 - 01.900 AND ACT

02:01 - 03.130 IF YOU ACTUALLY APPLY TO

02:01 - 04.610 STATUTES THAT ARE SET FORTH

02:01 - 07.320 ENTIRELY OF THE DRUG IN DRUG

02:01 - 08.360 DELIVERY RESULTING IN DEATH

02:01 - 09.860 STATUTE. THAT

02:01 - 11.360 A DELIVERY OCCURRED THE

02:01 - 12.410 DELIVERY WAS A CONTROLLED

02:01 - 13.610 SUBSTANCE AND THEN A DEATH

02:01 - 15.800 OCCURRED THAT COME WITH HAS MET

02:01 - 16.240 ITS BURDEN.

02:01 - 18.470 IN THAT THE ELEMENT OF DEATH

02:01 - 19.130 HAVING OCCURRED

02:01 - 20.850 IN PENNSYLVANIA, SATISFIED THE

02:01 - 21.990 TERRITORIAL CLICK THE BODY

02:01 - 23.320 PROVISIONS OF SECTION ONE '02.

02:01 - 25.470 NOW IF THE.

02:01 - 28.270 UNDER SANCTIONS WERE EXPANDED

02:01 - 29.430 THERE'S ARGUMENTS

02:01 - 32.830 THAT BE FOR THE DEFENDANTS OWN

02:01 - 34.240 WRATH CATION HE'S CONTINUING

02:01 - 36.450 SERVICE OF THE TRANSACTION IN

02:01 - 37.640 PENNSYLVANIA AND THE DEFENDANT

02:01 - 38.400 WHEN THE VICTIM WAS AT

02:01 - 40.370 HIS HOUSE THAT COULD ALSO BE

02:01 - 41.760 ARGUED SAYS FIGHTERS IN THIS

02:01 - 44.710 PARTICULAR CASE. BUT GENERALLY

02:01 - 45.580 SPEAKING YOUR HONOR

02:01 - 47.310 I BELIEVE THAT BEAT HER TO PUT

02:01 - 48.430 THE BILL THE PROVISION OF ONE

02:01 - 48.950 '02.

02:01 - 51.780 18, YOU HAVE TRACY FOR ANY

02:01 - 53.020 OFFENSE INTEGRITY.

02:01 - 56.410 THANK YOU THANK YOU BOTH

02:01 - 57.820 COUNCIL AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE

02:01 - 01.020 >>THE CORPS WILL RECESS TILL

02:02 - 06.010 >>FOCUS ON AGING ADULTS IN

02:02 - 09.440 BRINGS YOU A MONTHLY PANEL

02:02 - 12.720 PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES.

02:02 - 16.530 COMMUNITIES AND MORE

02:02 - 21.150 IMPORTANT TO SENIORS FOCUS ON

02:02 - 26.350 ON PCN VISIT PCN TV DOT COM FOR

02:02 - 29.270 THE UPCOMING SCHEDULE.

02:02 - 32.840 TO YOU.

02:02 - 35.870 >>COURT IS BACK IN SESSION THE

02:02 - 37.520 NEXT SEGMENT IS IN THE MATTER

02:02 - 38.990 OF COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA

02:02 - 40.940 VERSUS MICHAEL A LAYMAN AND

02:02 - 41.270 SCOTT

02:02 - 43.370 CHARLES DAVIS REPRESENTING COME

02:02 - 44.830 OFF JAMES ZAHN

02:02 - 46.790 TOLD WHICH REPRESENTING SCOTT

02:02 - 48.340 CHARLES DAVIS IS A TURNING

02:02 - 50.390 MARK LIPPMAN REPRESENTING

02:02 - 52.490 MICHAEL A LEHMAN IS A TRADE WAR

02:02 - 53.060 YOST.

02:02 - 56.770 GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M NOT.

02:02 - 59.170 PLEASE REACH CONVICTED AND

02:02 - 00.750 SENTENCED TO LIFE IMPRISONMENT.

02:03 - 03.730 URGED ME WHEN THEY WERE JUBA.

02:03 - 06.610 POLICE TO

02:03 - 08.760 RE SENTENCE AFTER A MANDATORY

02:03 - 09.910 LIFE PRISON TERMS FOR

02:03 - 11.960 JUVENILES. WE'RE DECLARING

02:03 - 14.640 UNCONSTITUTIONAL. AS PART OF

02:03 - 14.920 THE NEW

02:03 - 17.800 7 C. THE TRIAL COURT ORDERED

02:03 - 19.130 POLICE TO PAY THE COSTS

02:03 - 21.960 ASSOCIATED WITH $0.3 E C.

02:03 - 25.020 THE SUPREME COURT VACATED THE

02:03 - 25.910 COST WORSE

02:03 - 28.240 NEW YORKERS. THE CONCLUDING

02:03 - 29.560 THAT TRIAL COURTS LACKED

02:03 - 31.660 THE AUTHORITY REQUIRE THE

02:03 - 33.750 PAYMENT OF THE COSTS FOR REAL

02:03 - 35.850 WORRY SENTENCING WHEN AN

02:03 - 37.460 ILLEGAL SENTENCE HAD BEEN SET

02:03 - 39.890 ASIDE. THE COMMONWEALTH BE

02:03 - 43.830 CHALLENGING THAT. HE. BEGIN

02:03 - 44.520 YOUR ARGUMENT.

02:03 - 47.500 PLEASE THE COURT AND IN MY NAME

02:03 - 49.120 IS JAMES HIM TO BE TRIPS INCOME

02:03 - 50.960 WILL ANSWER A NEW INDUSTRIES

02:03 - 53.110 OFFICE. THE

02:03 - 55.590 THE CALLS ARE DONE IN THIS CASE

02:03 - 57.000 IS PRETTY CLEAR WHERE OUR

02:03 - 58.290 POSITION IS THAT THE SPEAR

02:03 - 58.660 COURT.

02:03 - 00.620 >>EXCEEDED THE EXISTING CASE

02:04 - 00.740 LAW

02:04 - 02.700 OF PENNSYLVANIA. THIS THE

02:04 - 04.120 ATMOSPHERE CORIN THERE PANEL

02:04 - 06.050 OPINIONS DECIDED TO COME OVER

02:04 - 07.690 SAYS WEAVER PAY SCREAM COURT

02:04 - 09.470 CASE KAMEL FORCES GUARDING

02:04 - 12.130 THEM. MAYBE THERE ARE THEIR

02:04 - 13.910 POSITION THAT IT WAS ISSUE OF

02:04 - 15.890 COSTS IN A RECENT STING IS

02:04 - 16.960 SIMPLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

02:04 - 18.670 THE COMMONWEALTH HAS REVIEWED

02:04 - 19.860 THESE CASES THAT WERE SAYING TO

02:04 - 21.580 BUY THE SPEAR COURT AND THAT IS

02:04 - 22.670 NOT WHAT THESE CASES STAND FOR

02:04 - 23.030 IT ALL.

02:04 - 27.350 GARZON SPECIFICALLY THE SPEAR

02:04 - 29.380 COURT HELD THAT WHERE A TRIAL

02:04 - 30.400 COURT MAKES A FACTUAL

02:04 - 31.770 DETERMINATION. AT THE

02:04 - 33.250 COMMONWEALTH HAS ACTED IN BAD

02:04 - 35.850 FAITH OR ENGAGE US IN EAST.

02:04 - 38.810 AND THAT IT IS WITHIN THE TRIAL

02:04 - 41.340 DISCRETION TO NOT

02:04 - 43.580 IMPOSE COSTS REGARDING THAT WE

02:04 - 44.710 STIR MALFEASANCE APPOINT A

02:04 - 46.850 DEFENDANT. TO THAT IN THE

02:04 - 48.010 COMMONWEALTH HAS NO OBJECTION

02:04 - 49.620 TO THE IMPOSITION OF LEVER IN

02:04 - 51.210 OUR ZONE THAT SEEMS LIKE A

02:04 - 52.590 COMPLETELY REASONABLE POSITION.

02:04 - 56.060 IT'S THE BARRING OF TRIAL

02:04 - 57.320 COUNSEL FROM IMPOSING

02:04 - 59.290 COSTS REGARDING RECENT SING

02:04 - 00.110 THAT BECOME DIS

02:05 - 03.010 AGREES WITH. RESEARCH CASE LAW

02:05 - 04.640 UNITED STATES IN AS WELL AS

02:05 - 06.560 PENNSYLVANIA WHO DO NOT APPEAR

02:05 - 06.620 TO

02:05 - 08.730 BE ANY CASE ON AT LEAST THIS

02:05 - 09.800 OFFICE WAS ABLE TO FIND IN

02:05 - 12.900 SUPPORT OF THE POSITION THAT

02:05 - 14.820 IT SIMPLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

02:05 - 17.270 IMPLYING THE U.S. SUPREME COURT

02:05 - 18.450 CASE LAW THAT EXISTS.

02:05 - 21.510 THE TEST AND THEN IS SET FORTH

02:05 - 23.520 IN GRIFFIN VERY PERSON OWN WAY.

02:05 - 26.430 U.S. SUPREME COURT. 3, 5, ONE

02:05 - 29.450 US 1219 56. HE SAID THAT THE

02:05 - 31.160 TEST FOR IMPOSITION OF COST AND

02:05 - 33.500 FEES. THE TEST AND RATIONALITY

02:05 - 34.730 AND THAT STATES NEED FOR

02:05 - 36.120 REVENUE TO OFFSET COSTS

02:05 - 38.030 GENERALLY SATISFIED THE REST OF

02:05 - 39.940 YOUR CAR. WE WOULD

02:05 - 41.850 AGREE THAT THERE'S ACTION

02:05 - 44.060 AND WEAVER. OUR TEST OF

02:05 - 45.520 RATIONALITY IS A RATIONAL TO

02:05 - 48.120 IMPOSE A COST WHERE THE COST

02:05 - 50.330 HAS BEEN CAUSED BY CANDLES IN A

02:05 - 51.480 FEE AND SNOW THAT IS NOW

02:05 - 53.320 RATIONAL REASONABLE IN THIS

02:05 - 55.530 CASE. WE HAVE 2 JUVENILE LIFERS

02:05 - 58.910 WHO WE'RE REQUIRED TO BE RECENT

02:05 - 00.070 THEIR SENTENCES WERE VACATED

02:06 - 01.420 THEREFORE THEY WERE EXISTING IN

02:06 - 02.820 A SITUATION WHERE THERE WAS NO

02:06 - 03.910 SENSE THEREFORE THEIR

02:06 - 05.110 CONVICTIONS ARE NOT FINAL AT

02:06 - 05.950 THE TIME THAT WE HAD YOU

02:06 - 08.470 SENSING HERE. WE DID

02:06 - 09.520 THE EVALUATIONS

02:06 - 11.970 AND IN THESE 2 CASES THAT ARE

02:06 - 13.810 CONTESTED HEARINGS AND DEFENSE

02:06 - 15.580 COUNSEL PRESENTED THEIR EXPERTS

02:06 - 18.610 WHICH WE SAY TO IN OUR GRIEF AS

02:06 - 19.870 TO WHAT WAS BEING

02:06 - 22.620 REQUESTED AB. PERCENT BOTH THE

02:06 - 24.090 DEFENSE EXPERTS WERE SAYING

02:06 - 25.380 THAT THE JUVENILE SHOULD HAVE

02:06 - 27.090 LESS TIME MCCONNELL'S EXPERT

02:06 - 28.200 WAS SAYING MISSION MORE TIME

02:06 - 30.080 I WOULD NOTE BECOMES EXPERT IN

02:06 - 31.370 ONE OF THE CO-DEFENDANTS CASES

02:06 - 32.100 TO MISTER LEHMANN.

02:06 - 34.130 WAS AGREED TO BY DEFENSE

02:06 - 35.310 COUNSEL AND WE DIDN'T NEED TO

02:06 - 37.340 HAVE THE COST OF AN EXPERT

02:06 - 37.840 TESTIFY.

02:06 - 41.490 IN LIGHT OF THIS WE BELIEVE

02:06 - 43.240 THAT THE IMPOSITION OF COST BY

02:06 - 45.070 THE TRIAL COURT WAS NOT AN

02:06 - 46.420 UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN POSITION.

02:06 - 48.600 THEY'RE GOING TO QUESTION I'VE

02:06 - 49.570 SEEN IN SOME OF THE MAKE HIS

02:06 - 51.560 BRIEFS WHETHER OR NOT IN A

02:06 - 53.090 POSITION OF COST OF RE

02:06 - 54.870 SENTENCING. SEATS COST OF

02:06 - 57.280 PROSECUTION. TO THAT I WOULD

02:06 - 58.380 SAY THAT THE PENNSYLVANIA

02:06 - 59.780 SUPREME COURT HAS SPECIFICALLY

02:06 - 01.510 DEFINE COST OF PROSECUTION

02:07 - 03.900 AS INCLUDING THE SECOND COST I

02:07 - 05.520 WOULD REFER TO THE CASE SAY TO

02:07 - 06.050 MY BRIEF.

02:07 - 08.300 I'M ALL FOR SAYS MARKET YOUR

02:07 - 09.970 BRIEF AND NOW WE APPRECIATE YOU

02:07 - 10.380 OWNING

02:07 - 10.890 THE DEAD.

02:07 - 13.320 >>WE'VE GOT TO ASK YOU TO LIMIT

02:07 - 15.170 THAT TO 3 MINUTES SHARE WHICH

02:07 - 16.680 IS NOW OVER SO.

02:07 - 20.460 >>WELL. IT ASKED THE JUSTICES

02:07 - 20.830 THAT.

02:07 - 24.250 TO POSE TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU

02:07 - 26.360 MIGHT AND STARTING WITH JUSTICE

02:07 - 28.960 OR DIRTY. IF

02:07 - 29.930 YOU COUNCIL.

02:07 - 32.190 >>WITH REGARD TO THE SPECIFIC

02:07 - 33.960 STATUTE WHICH YOU KNOW REALLY

02:07 - 36.060 ITS DISCRETION.

02:07 - 39.280 THE COURT TO DETERMINE WHETHER

02:07 - 40.800 IT SHOULD BE PAID FOR THE

02:07 - 41.760 DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S

02:07 - 44.230 INVESTIGATION. APPREHENSION AND

02:07 - 46.860 PROSECUTION. IT DOES NOT

02:07 - 49.030 SAY SENTENCING SENTENCING

02:07 - 50.850 BEING SEPARATE AND DIFFERENT

02:07 - 53.140 FROM THE PROSECUTION WHERE THE

02:07 - 54.640 BURDEN ON YOU BEYOND A

02:07 - 56.510 REASONABLE DOUBT. WHY

02:07 - 59.100 SHOULD WE BUT SOMETHING INTO

02:07 - 01.140 A STATUE THAT THE GENERAL

02:08 - 04.310 ASSEMBLY CHOSE NOT. VERY GOOD

02:08 - 06.430 AND THAT IS SPECIFICALLY WHY

02:08 - 07.470 WAS REFERRING TO COME WALKER

02:08 - 09.660 SAYS THE. IN CARMEL FOR SUNDAY

02:08 - 10.930 BE THE PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME

02:08 - 13.660 COURT. IN 1974,

02:08 - 15.550 SPECIFICALLY DECIDED THAT'S

02:08 - 17.290 WHERE THE LEGISLATURE IMPOSE A

02:08 - 19.120 REQUIREMENT THAT QUOTE.

02:08 - 21.530 MADE ALL PERSONS CONVICTED OF A

02:08 - 23.250 CRIME LIABLE FOR THE COST OF

02:08 - 24.830 THEIR PROSECUTION. THE

02:08 - 25.990 PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT

02:08 - 28.490 HELD. QUOTE IT IS CLEAR THE

02:08 - 30.080 LEGISLATURE INTENDED TO INCLUDE

02:08 - 32.240 IN IN THE COST A FORTUNE IF

02:08 - 33.690 CONVICTED PERSONS LIABLE.

02:08 - 35.670 THE COST OF ALL PROCEEDINGS.

02:08 - 37.360 WRECK WAS IT. FINALLY THE

02:08 - 37.930 DISPOSITION OF

02:08 - 39.230 THE CASE BUT PERCENT OF

02:08 - 40.440 KNOWLEDGE ON SPEC BACK

02:08 - 43.320 EXTRADITION CASE RIGHT.

02:08 - 45.480 >>IT WAS ACTUALLY A PAROLE

02:08 - 46.180 VIOLATION CASE,

02:08 - 47.800 YOUR HONOR. THIS IS SOMETHING

02:08 - 49.770 CALLED SENT TO THE CRIME THEM

02:08 - 51.230 CORRECT. BUT THEY BUT THE

02:08 - 52.830 PROBLEM WAS THAT THE DEFENDING

02:08 - 54.470 CONTESTED THE JURISDICTION.

02:08 - 56.860 MAD TO BE EXTRADITED SOMETHING

02:08 - 58.570 THAT HE OR SHE CAUSED THE ON

02:08 - 00.380 THEIR OWN. THE ELECTION AS

02:09 - 02.710 OPPOSED TO A SUPREME COURT

02:09 - 03.700 FINDING THEM IN A LEGAL

02:09 - 05.470 SENTENCE POSING A RECENT.

02:09 - 09.010 I CAN EASILY DISTINGUISHED 81

02:09 - 09.580 LCA.

02:09 - 12.090 >>THE OWNER THERE'S NOT A WHOLE

02:09 - 14.320 LOT ON THIS THE QUESTION AS TO

02:09 - 16.120 WHETHER I I GUESS MY MY MAIN

02:09 - 18.890 QUESTION IS OR IS THE ARGUMENT

02:09 - 20.260 WHETHER IT SIMPLY CAN'T BE

02:09 - 22.990 IMPOSED OR WHETHER IT CAN BE

02:09 - 23.700 IMPOSED UNDER

02:09 - 25.620 REASONABLE CIRCUMSTANCES IF WE

02:09 - 27.290 LOOK AT ME WHEN THE LEGISLATURE

02:09 - 28.870 RIGHT THERE LAWS LEGISLATURE'S

02:09 - 30.470 FORCED TO RELY ON WHAT EXISTS

02:09 - 32.550 DAVIES BASICALLY WHAT EXISTS

02:09 - 34.380 AND IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS IT

02:09 - 36.310 INCLUDES ALL PROCEEDINGS

02:09 - 37.170 REQUISITE FOR FINAL

02:09 - 37.780 DISPOSITION.

02:09 - 41.870 I'M THE BEST SHE REFERRING

02:09 - 43.520 TO COST OF PROSECUTION, THE

02:09 - 44.760 LEGISLATURE CAN REASONABLY

02:09 - 46.060 RELIED THAT THAT'S WHAT WOULD

02:09 - 47.080 BE IN TURKEY WOULD CONTINUE TO

02:09 - 47.890 BE INTERPRETED TO BE.

02:09 - 50.650 >>BUT WE CAN ALSO FOLLOW YOUR

02:09 - 51.230 LOGIC WE

02:09 - 53.360 CAN INTERPRET WE BURNED OR ZONE

02:09 - 54.970 IS BEING SINCE THEY WERE ALL IN

02:09 - 57.180 STRIDE. THE PROSECUTION AND THE

02:09 - 58.430 DEFENDANT DID NOT HAVE TO BEAR

02:09 - 00.230 RESPONSIBILITY. THIS RE

02:10 - 01.910 SENTENCING WAS CAUSED BY THE

02:10 - 03.320 UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT

02:10 - 04.960 THEREFORE NOT RESPONSIBLE GOOD

02:10 - 05.250 FUN.

02:10 - 08.520 THEY'RE NOW FOR NOW I WOULD

02:10 - 09.490 DISAGREE WITH THAT YOUR HONOR

02:10 - 10.460 IN IN THIS CASE.

02:10 - 12.900 >>HAD BE THE SITUATION NEVER

02:10 - 14.970 EXISTED AND HE HAD THIS SENSE

02:10 - 16.890 THE SCHEME THAT WE HAVE NOW OUR

02:10 - 18.090 DIFFERENT IN OUR JUVENILE

02:10 - 19.820 DISSENT IN JUVENILE LIFER IT'S

02:10 - 21.900 SUBJECT TO A MANDATORY MINIMUM

02:10 - 23.220 AND THEN.

02:10 - 26.250 MAXIMUM OF A MANDATORY LIFE.

02:10 - 28.800 EVEN TODAY. IF WE WANT TO

02:10 - 30.740 EITHER. ASKED THE COURT FOR

02:10 - 31.570 SOMETHING THAT'S ABOVE THE

02:10 - 33.280 MANDATORY MINIMUM OR

02:10 - 35.070 WE WANT TO PURSUE A LIFE

02:10 - 35.990 WITHOUT PAROLE, WHICH REMAINS

02:10 - 37.090 AN OPTION IF WE CAN SHOW IN

02:10 - 38.690 COURT ABILITY. WE WOULD HAVE

02:10 - 40.020 HAD TO CLOSE THIS COST THE

02:10 - 41.450 REGION TIME. THE FACT THAT

02:10 - 43.200 THOSE COSTS NEVER EXISTED.

02:10 - 44.720 IN THE FIRST TIME IN THE FIRST

02:10 - 46.900 SENSING IT'S NOT I MEAN THAT

02:10 - 48.450 THIS NEVER EXIST IN THIS CASE

02:10 - 51.180 HAD THE ERROR. FORT LEE

02:10 - 53.460 ARGUABLY IT'S AN ERROR FOR THE

02:10 - 55.910 ORIGINAL SENTENCING. THESE

02:10 - 58.220 COSTS WERE NOT P COSTS. THEY

02:10 - 59.540 WERE NOT PLUS THAT SHOULD HAVE

02:10 - 00.690 NEVER BEEN CLOSE THESE ARE

02:11 - 02.570 COSTS IF THIS PRACTICE

02:11 - 03.770 REPRESSED YOU TODAY WILL

02:11 - 05.610 BE REQUIRED AND SIMPLY WEREN'T

02:11 - 06.470 REQUIRED OF THE DIFFERENT

02:11 - 07.290 TODAY, SO IT'S NOT A

02:11 - 08.970 DUPLICATION OF COST. IT'S NOT

02:11 - 10.480 A WASTE AND THEREFORE WE

02:11 - 11.570 BELIEVE IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR

02:11 - 12.790 HIM TO BE IMPOSED IN THIS CASE.

02:11 - 13.860 THANK YOU.

02:11 - 17.220 ACT. THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE

02:11 - 19.160 COUNCIL. THE STATUTE

02:11 - 21.220 SAYS THAT THE DEFENDANT MUST

02:11 - 23.690 PAY THE COST OF PROSECUTION AND

02:11 - 24.620 TRIAL.

02:11 - 27.310 >>IF PROSECUTION.

02:11 - 30.350 INCLUDES EVERYTHING INCLUDING

02:11 - 32.020 SENTENCING WHAT'S THE PURPOSE

02:11 - 33.380 OF WORDS IN TRIAL.

02:11 - 37.370 >>I WOULD SAY YOUR HONOR IT

02:11 - 38.920 COSTS THAT WE DO WE COLLUDE THE

02:11 - 41.620 COST OF PROSECUTION. THAT GO

02:11 - 42.770 BEYOND TRIAL.

02:11 - 46.560 ANY TYPE OF SITUATION WHERE

02:11 - 47.750 WE'RE DOING A PRE TRIAL.

02:11 - 51.280 EXTRADITION IF YOU'RE DOING

02:11 - 52.540 PRETRIAL HEARINGS IF WE'RE IN

02:11 - 54.260 THE JUVENILE COURT. AND WE ARE

02:11 - 55.230 SEEKING TO HAVE SOMEONE

02:11 - 56.390 CERTIFIED TO ADULT COURT.

02:11 - 58.820 THOSE TAPES OF COSTS WOULDN'T

02:11 - 59.790 BE TRIAL. BUT THEY WOULD BE

02:11 - 00.670 COSTS RELATED TO THE

02:12 - 03.380 PROSECUTION. BY

02:12 - 05.410 STATING THAT SUPPRESSED YOU

02:12 - 06.700 SURE TO BE IMPOSED UPON AN

02:12 - 09.110 ADULT AND FOR ME. TREND THAT'S

02:12 - 10.100 CONVICTED AS AN ADULT.

02:12 - 12.000 WE BELIEVE INCORPORATE ALL

02:12 - 13.280 THOSE COSTS INCLUDING PROBATION

02:12 - 14.680 VIOLATIONS AND SUBSEQUENT

02:12 - 16.190 ISSUES SUCH AS PC ARIAS.

02:12 - 19.480 LET ME ASK

02:12 - 23.860 YOU RECOGNIZE

02:12 - 26.540 THAT IN THE BATS CASE WE WE

02:12 - 28.100 ANTICIPATED JOB

02:12 - 29.820 THAT EXPERTS ARE GOING TO BE

02:12 - 31.670 NEEDED IN MOST OF THESE CASES

02:12 - 33.090 THESE POSTS, MONTGOMERY CASES,

02:12 - 33.440 RIGHT.

02:12 - 35.560 >>YES, SURE YOU RECOGNIZE THAT

02:12 - 39.560 SO. AS A CONSTITUTIONAL MATTER.

02:12 - 41.020 HOW

02:12 - 43.630 CAN WE HOW CAN WE JUDGE

02:12 - 46.640 THESE INMATES WOULD

02:12 - 49.270 BE ON NOTICE THAT 35 YEARS OR

02:12 - 50.500 WHATEVER ON ON.

02:12 - 53.610 THIS KIND OF A SEA CHANGE IN

02:12 - 55.560 THE LAW IS GOING TO OCCUR HOW

02:12 - 57.570 CAN PUTTING ASIDE ALLEGATIONS

02:12 - 59.250 OF MALFEASANCE IS NO ALLEGATION

02:12 - 00.380 IN THIS CASE OF COMMONWEALTH

02:13 - 02.600 MALFEASANCE HOW DO WE PUT THE

02:13 - 03.310 BURDEN.

02:13 - 06.700 ON THE INMATE AT THIS POINT.

02:13 - 08.440 WHEN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE

02:13 - 10.420 UNITED STATES HAS MADE.

02:13 - 13.570 THIS A SEA CHANGE IN THE LAW.

02:13 - 18.610 YOU'RE DOING NEVER GUARD IS

02:13 - 20.650 TWOFOLD FIRST WOULD BE IF

02:13 - 21.710 YOU'RE LOOKING AT FROM AN EX

02:13 - 23.200 POST FACTO TYPE SITUATION.

02:13 - 24.770 >>THE ARGUMENT

02:13 - 26.980 IS THAT BY IMPOSING A LESSER

02:13 - 28.170 TYPE OF SITUATION ARE GRANTING

02:13 - 30.090 THE DIFFERENT ABILITY TO PURSUE

02:13 - 31.330 A SENTENCE THAT IS LESSER THAN

02:13 - 32.240 WHAT WAS IMPOSED.

02:13 - 34.240 THE FACT THAT THERE'S A COST TO

02:13 - 35.350 RECEIVE THAT BENEFIT.

02:13 - 37.500 SHOULD NOT BE JUST A BOON

02:13 - 38.340 GRANTED TO THE DEFENDANT.

02:13 - 42.060 I MEAN, AS I NOTED PREVIOUSLY

02:13 - 42.860 IN MY HEART MY

02:13 - 44.040 OPENING STATEMENT. THERE ARE

02:13 - 45.570 DEFENDANTS SPECIFICALLY YOUR

02:13 - 46.980 COUNTY DEFENDANTS AMONG OUR I

02:13 - 48.520 BELIEVE WE HAD 12 A JUVENILE

02:13 - 50.690 LIFERS I RECALL THESE 2, 1, OF

02:13 - 51.680 WHICH WAS MISTER LEHMAN'S

02:13 - 53.480 CO-DEFENDANT. WE STIPULATED

02:13 - 55.260 2 EXPERTS THERE WAS NO COST OF

02:13 - 56.370 EXPERT TESTIMONY IN THOSE

02:13 - 58.000 CASES. WE WERE IN AGREEMENT

02:13 - 59.790 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CASES

02:13 - 01.030 WHERE THERE IS A COST

02:14 - 04.210 I'M

02:14 - 07.340 IS IS NOT IT

02:14 - 10.620 CAN TO MAKING THE DEFENDANT

02:14 - 13.010 PAY FOR THE INVOCATION OR OF

02:14 - 14.570 AILMENT OF A CONSTITUTIONAL

02:14 - 14.910 RIGHT.

02:14 - 18.820 IN REGARDS TO

02:14 - 20.250 MAKING A DIFFERENT PAY FOR

02:14 - 21.420 INDICATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL

02:14 - 21.630 RIGHT.

02:14 - 24.590 THE QUESTION SET FORTH BY THE

02:14 - 25.970 U.S. SUPREME COURT IS WHETHER

02:14 - 28.300 OR NOT WE ARE THE IMPOSITION OF

02:14 - 30.310 A COST IMPOSE A BAR, SOMETHING

02:14 - 31.250 THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM

02:14 - 33.020 EXERCISING THEIR RIGHT. NONE OF

02:14 - 34.340 THE SITUATIONS. THE

02:14 - 36.360 DEFENSE PRECLUDED BY SOME SORT

02:14 - 37.550 OF A CROSS FROM TRASHING

02:14 - 39.530 PURSUING THEIR THEIR HOPE WAS

02:14 - 41.400 OBSCENE. I MEAN ALL OF

02:14 - 43.650 THESE CASES. THE DEFENSE HAD

02:14 - 45.380 BAD TO EXPERTS APPOINTED BY THE

02:14 - 47.130 COURT. THE COMMONWEALTH HAD

02:14 - 48.540 GOOD SEEK ITS OWN EXPERTS

02:14 - 49.690 BASICALLY A RESPONSE

02:14 - 51.790 OF EXPERTS. OUR AT LEAST IN ONE

02:14 - 53.020 CASE I BELIEVE THAT THE COUNT

02:14 - 54.990 WAS THE ONLY A PARTY TO SEE YOU

02:14 - 55.400 NEXT HOUR.

02:14 - 57.960 I BELIEVE THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF

02:14 - 59.020 THE ONE WHERE YOU ARE IN

02:14 - 59.370 AGREEMENT.

02:15 - 04.190 GENERALLY SPEAKING YOUR HONOR I

02:15 - 05.510 BELIEVE I WOULD ARGUE THAT

02:15 - 06.790 GOOD. THERE'S SIMPLY NO

02:15 - 08.060 CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATION.

02:15 - 10.210 PERSON COULD REASONABLY EXPECT

02:15 - 11.270 AS LONG AS THEY CONTINUE TO

02:15 - 12.620 APPEAL THERE MAY BE COSTS

02:15 - 13.730 ASSOCIATED WITH THAT APPEAL.

02:15 - 17.720 AND JUST

02:15 - 19.650 AS MONEY. THERE ARE NO

02:15 - 20.390 QUESTIONS.

02:15 - 24.110 >>WHEN YOU

02:15 - 26.660 LOOK AT. FOR KING AS GREECE

02:15 - 28.080 SIMILAR TO WHAT JUSTICE WHAT TO

02:15 - 28.570 ASK YOU.

02:15 - 30.550 IT TALKS ABOUT WHERE DEFENDANT

02:15 - 32.080 IS CONVICTED AND SENTENCED TO

02:15 - 33.680 PAY THE COST OF PROSECUTION AND

02:15 - 34.090 TRIAL.

02:15 - 38.490 THAT THE PROCESS BY WHICH A

02:15 - 40.630 CRIMINAL DEFENDANT IS FOUND

02:15 - 43.250 GUILTY IN THE END INCARCERATED.

02:15 - 47.350 PRESUMABLY PURSUANT TO

02:15 - 49.270 THE SENTENCE. HERE DON'T WE

02:15 - 49.460 HAVE

02:15 - 52.020 THE OPPOSITE. HERE WE HAVE A

02:15 - 54.750 PROCESS SOME 3040 YEARS LATER.

02:15 - 56.100 WHERE THERE IS

02:15 - 57.700 NO CONVICTION. THERE IS

02:15 - 00.230 NO TRIAL AND NOT ONLY IN THE

02:16 - 01.690 SENSE IS NOT ABOUT PUTTING HIM

02:16 - 03.110 IN THE JAIL, THE RE SENTENCING

02:16 - 05.130 ABOUT IN ACCORD WITH A FEDERAL

02:16 - 06.510 COURT ORDER IN THE U.S. SUPREME

02:16 - 08.280 COURT PRECEDENT ALLOWING HIM TO

02:16 - 08.990 GET OUT OF JAIL.

02:16 - 11.230 SO AS A MATTER OF STATUTORY

02:16 - 13.070 INTERPRETATION THIS. THERE'S

02:16 - 14.760 THIS IT AND HOW DOES THIS

02:16 - 15.570 POSSIBLY FIT.

02:16 - 18.980 >>THE PROCEDURAL

02:16 - 21.220 POSTURE OF ALL CASES AT SENSING

02:16 - 23.350 IS THAT UNDER PCR 8 AND THE

02:16 - 23.880 FEDERAL HE'D

02:16 - 26.110 USE APPLICATIONS THE SENTENCES

02:16 - 27.650 OF LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE WERE

02:16 - 29.500 VACATED THIS RENDERING THEM IN

02:16 - 31.090 THE POSITION OF THEIR PUSH

02:16 - 33.010 TRIAL HAVING BEEN FOUND GUILTY

02:16 - 34.410 OR ENTERED THEIR

02:16 - 36.410 GUILTY PLEA BUT THEY ARE PRE

02:16 - 37.980 SENTENCING. SO AT THE POINT

02:16 - 39.500 WHERE SENTENCE WAS NEW SAYS

02:16 - 41.010 WAS REIMPOSED THESE WERE NOT

02:16 - 42.580 FINAL CONVICTIONS BECAUSE THEIR

02:16 - 44.350 THEIR SENSES HAD BEEN VACATED

02:16 - 46.000 BY THE APPELLATE COURTS THAT

02:16 - 47.570 IT'S A CONVENIENT FICTION.

02:16 - 49.550 I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE IT'S IT'S

02:16 - 50.420 A REALITY.

02:16 - 52.730 APROPOS APPRECIATED SOME

02:16 - 53.920 BINDING US, BUT THIS FEAR

02:16 - 55.890 OF COURT SAID IT WOULD BE AN

02:16 - 57.500 CAUGHT I THINK IN WEAVER SAID

02:16 - 59.470 IT WOULD BE UNCONSCIONABLE TO

02:17 - 01.970 IMPOSED THE SENTENCE.

02:17 - 04.590 IN AND POSE THE COST OF ICE

02:17 - 06.220 THESE PEOPLE FOR VINDICATING

02:17 - 07.880 THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS I

02:17 - 08.930 DIDN'T HEAR THEY BOTH OUT OF

02:17 - 09.370 JAIL.

02:17 - 11.450 IF

02:17 - 13.460 YOU KNOW I BELIEVE I WOULD HAVE

02:17 - 14.890 TO DEFER TO DEFENSE COUNSEL NOW

02:17 - 16.020 AND I BELIEVE HE REALLY IS

02:17 - 17.500 DEFINITELY I CAN REMEMBER THOSE

02:17 - 19.170 ARE. WELL THE POINT IS THAT

02:17 - 21.440 THEY SUCCEEDED IF YOU WOULD

02:17 - 22.650 PREVAIL THEY BOTH BE

02:17 - 24.880 INCARCERATED FOR INDEFINITE

02:17 - 26.830 FUTURE. SO I DON'T KNOW QUITE

02:17 - 28.500 HOW YOU YOU CHARGED WITH THESE

02:17 - 28.960 COSTS.

02:17 - 32.090 YEAH, I DID YOU MAKE YOUR

02:17 - 33.530 ARGUMENT CHIEF I'VE NOTHING

02:17 - 35.030 STEP THINK YOU JUST HIDE.

02:17 - 37.610 THE CHIEF JUSTICE.

02:17 - 40.100 >>AND SO WE WERE

02:17 - 40.770 TO ACCEPT.

02:17 - 44.150 >>HERE IN THIS CASE IS THERE

02:17 - 44.390 ANY

02:17 - 46.840 LIMITING PRINCIPLE FIRST

02:17 - 49.570 HYPOTHETICALLY ONE AND SAW CASE

02:17 - 51.540 WENT UP ON APPEAL 2 OR 3 TIMES

02:17 - 52.170 TIMES.

02:17 - 55.400 IT'S TIME THE SENTENCES VACATED

02:17 - 57.870 AND IT COMES BACK DOWN OR A NEW

02:17 - 00.130 SENTENCING HEARING. ARE WE

02:18 - 01.340 GOING TO LOVE

02:18 - 04.570 SANCTION IMPOSED ON SOME OF THE

02:18 - 06.060 DIFFERENT IN EACH TIME.

02:18 - 08.720 >>I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE THE A

02:18 - 10.290 GUARD'S OWN TYPE SITUATION

02:18 - 13.510 COMES TO IN THAT THE BECOME WAS

02:18 - 15.070 ENGAGING IN MALFEASANCE

02:18 - 16.700 BASICALLY TO WASTE A

02:18 - 18.090 MISTRIAL OCCURRED.

02:18 - 20.460 IN THE IN THE SET THAT WAS

02:18 - 21.360 CAUSED BY THE COMMONWEALTH IN

02:18 - 23.480 THAT CASE AND AN EXPERT HAD TO

02:18 - 24.260 BE RECALLED FOR THE

02:18 - 26.580 SECOND TRIAL. THE COURT HELD

02:18 - 28.450 THAT BECAUSE OF THE AIR BEING

02:18 - 29.710 ON 2 WHEELS FALL

02:18 - 31.750 THAT BECOME WITH COULD NOT BEEN

02:18 - 33.390 SEQUENCED THE WASTE OF THE RE

02:18 - 33.830 TRIAL.

02:18 - 36.730 GREEN DEPENDING ON THE

02:18 - 37.840 CIRCUMSTANCES IT WOULD HAVE TO

02:18 - 39.190 BE INDIVIDUALIZED SITUATION I

02:18 - 40.670 CAN IMAGINE SITUATIONS WHERE.

02:18 - 43.220 IT'S SIMPLY THE U.S. SUPREME

02:18 - 45.480 COURT. SLOWLY KNOCKING THINGS

02:18 - 47.030 DOWN A PEG BY PAGE BY PAGE.

02:18 - 48.810 UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES,

02:18 - 51.540 RATIONAL BASIS ONE ARGUE PRIME

02:18 - 52.840 OR TOWARDS THE DEFENSE FAILED.

02:18 - 54.670 IN THIS CITY, IT'S YOUR

02:18 - 56.410 SITUATION. THIS IS THE FIRST IN

02:18 - 57.980 POSITION OF COSTS IF THE

02:18 - 58.990 DEFENSE HAD COMMITTED THIS

02:18 - 01.030 COUNTRY TODAY UNDER THE CURRENT

02:19 - 02.910 SCHEME OF SENSING THAT THEY

02:19 - 04.860 WOULD BE IMPOSED THIS 6 DID

02:19 - 06.000 THESE COST FOR THE FIRST TIME

02:19 - 06.560 THEMSELVES.

02:19 - 08.720 SO SO WE ARE AND GET ON YOUR

02:19 - 10.420 EAST OR A TYPE OF AND THE

02:19 - 12.480 COVID-19 IS NOT THESE AND MANY

02:19 - 13.620 OF THE SENSES WERE KILLED

02:19 - 15.880 MULTIPLE TIMES BY THE COUNTRY'S

02:19 - 17.530 SUPREME COURT AND BY FEDERAL

02:19 - 19.080 COURTS ARE NOT GUARANTEES.

02:19 - 20.950 I WAS ON THE U.S. SUPREME COURT

02:19 - 21.620 BACK CHANGED

02:19 - 22.980 BASICALLY THE POSITION ON

02:19 - 24.940 MANDATORY JUVENILE LIKE THAT IT

02:19 - 25.930 BECAME A QUESTION.

02:19 - 28.420 >>SO WOULD YOU

02:19 - 30.410 CONCLUDE THEN THAT THERE'S A

02:19 - 32.890 LIMIT OF ONE TIME TO IMPOSE THE

02:19 - 34.770 COST AT SENTENCING UNLESS

02:19 - 35.800 THERE'S COMMONWEALTH

02:19 - 36.660 MALFEASANCE.

02:19 - 39.150 >>I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT STILL

02:19 - 40.970 REMAINS A REPRIEVE RATIONAL

02:19 - 41.830 BASIS TEST.

02:19 - 44.900 IF I CAN CAN SIT CONCEIVE OF

02:19 - 45.280 RATIONAL

02:19 - 47.310 SITUATIONS WHERE HAPPY DEFENSE

02:19 - 48.690 ACTIONS THAT IT COULD BE A

02:19 - 51.370 MULTIPLE TIMES. IF THE RAISES

02:19 - 52.860 SEVERAL PC ARI PETITIONS

02:19 - 55.270 TO YOU I FEEL FAILURES OF

02:19 - 56.910 EITHER DEFENSE COUNCIL AND ITS

02:19 - 57.700 FAILURE TO

02:19 - 59.740 PROCEED WITH CERTAIN ARGUMENTS

02:19 - 01.370 ON THIS FOR THE CRE OR SECOND

02:20 - 02.070 PCR E.

02:20 - 07.270 AND FRIENDS AND SET A GOOD

02:20 - 08.410 EXAMPLE I CAN THINK OF IS

02:20 - 09.940 COMING FOR SAYS JACOBS. THAT'S

02:20 - 11.780 A CASE WHERE CAN'T BE CASE

02:20 - 13.380 WAS CONFIRMED IN

02:20 - 16.690 1995 2005. THE OTHER HALF THE

02:20 - 19.360 CASE REMAINS PENDING PCR A SO

02:20 - 20.960 EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN THROUGH

02:20 - 23.280 THE ENTIRE SYSTEM ONCE. IT WAS

02:20 - 25.990 PARTIALLY BAKED. AS WRITTEN

02:20 - 27.200 JUST FACT INVOLVED MULTIPLE

02:20 - 27.630 MURDERS.

02:20 - 31.030 IT REALLY DEPENDS ON IN FACT BY

02:20 - 32.710 FACT CASE BY CASE EXAMINATION.

02:20 - 37.930 >>THANK WILL CONCLUDE WITH

02:20 - 40.680 QUESTIONS BY JUSTICE. DONAHUE.

02:20 - 42.040 >>THANK YOU CHIEF,

02:20 - 44.660 I'M GLAD I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY

02:20 - 46.200 TO ASK I'M THE DISTRICT

02:20 - 46.650 ATTORNEY TO

02:20 - 49.130 THIS QUESTION. I'M TRYING TO

02:20 - 50.720 DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT ITS

02:20 - 52.580 SYMMETRY BETWEEN THE FIRST

02:20 - 56.730 SENTENCE ON BY SECTION 14 '03

02:20 - 58.670 AND SECOND THE FIRST THE FIRST

02:20 - 00.870 SENTENCE. AND THE

02:21 - 04.040 GENERAL ASSEMBLY. MANDATE THAT

02:21 - 04.900 THE COUNTY

02:21 - 08.220 PAY FOR AMONG OTHER THINGS THAT

02:21 - 10.890 COST EXPENSES THAT THE

02:21 - 11.920 PROSECUTION.

02:21 - 16.420 ON DICE THE COUNTY PAY FOR THE

02:21 - 19.110 EXPENSES RELATED TO SENTENCING.

02:21 - 21.840 >>A THREAT YOUR HONOR YES, WE

02:21 - 23.510 CAN PIECE FOR ALL OF COURSE

02:21 - 25.360 LANE TO PROSECUTE THE CASE.

02:21 - 28.080 >>LET ME GIVE A PAY FOR THE

02:21 - 30.230 COSTS OF SENTENCING.

02:21 - 33.300 >>I MEAN TO TO THE EXTENT

02:21 - 35.300 THAT THE COMMONWEALTH THE DA'S

02:21 - 36.690 OFFICE INCURS COSTS AND HAS TO

02:21 - 38.400 CALL EXPERTS. YES. I THINK

02:21 - 39.170 THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF OUR

02:21 - 40.640 BUDGET. WE NORMALLY DO.

02:21 - 43.950 >>IS IT FAIR TO SAY WHY AND

02:21 - 45.190 ONCE AGAIN TRYING TO SEE IF

02:21 - 46.800 THERE IS SYMMETRY BETWEEN FIRST

02:21 - 48.170 AND SECOND SETS

02:21 - 50.170 FOR SENDS THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

02:21 - 52.170 SAYS THE COUNTY SHALL PAY FOR

02:21 - 53.800 IT THE CLASSIC PROSECUTION FROM

02:21 - 53.950 NEW

02:21 - 55.870 GENERAL FUND. THE SECOND

02:21 - 57.790 SENTENCE AS THE DEFENDANT.

02:21 - 00.710 I SHOUT PAID A CLASS OF

02:22 - 02.400 PROSECUTION SO

02:22 - 03.230 ON.

02:22 - 06.060 >>IT IS JASON, WE USE STATUTE

02:22 - 06.860 THAT WAY THAT

02:22 - 07.550 IF THE.

02:22 - 11.400 >>COUNTY IS REQUIRED TO PAY THE

02:22 - 15.410 I EXPENSES I RELATED TO THE

02:22 - 17.780 SENTENCING. SHE DID AND SHE

02:22 - 20.040 WEEKEND RE I THINK PROSECUTION

02:22 - 21.910 IN THE SECOND SENTENCE TO

02:22 - 23.820 REQUIRE THE DEFENDANT TO

02:22 - 25.390 ESSENTIALLY REIMBURSE THOSE.

02:22 - 28.160 I SO ON SENTENCING.

02:22 - 30.000 >>YES, YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THAT'S

02:22 - 31.630 WHAT MY POSITION IS THAT THE

02:22 - 33.160 STATUE READS NOW WE ARE

02:22 - 34.640 REQUIRED TO FOR INSTANCE WAS

02:22 - 36.380 WHEN DOCTOR RUTENBERG US AND

02:22 - 36.940 IT'S A BILL.

02:22 - 38.980 BECOME WALK THROUGH ITS FUNDING

02:22 - 39.990 RECEIVED FROM THE GENERAL FUND

02:22 - 41.250 OF COUNTY PAYS HIS BILL

02:22 - 42.340 AND THEN THE COST OF

02:22 - 44.300 PROSECUTION OR SUBMITTED TO THE

02:22 - 45.550 COURT AS A REQUESTS FOR

02:22 - 46.110 REIMBURSEMENT.

02:22 - 49.190 BASICALLY OF A CAUSE I FORM OF

02:22 - 50.900 RESTITUTION BITES SOME 8 AT A

02:22 - 51.210 COST

02:22 - 51.860 OF PROSECUTION.

02:22 - 54.390 >>GENERALLY SPEAKING COUNCIL

02:22 - 56.600 ARE THERE, I'M IT.

02:22 - 58.550 >>I HEAR THERE.

02:22 - 02.000 >>HAAS AT A STANCE IS RELATED

02:23 - 04.610 TO I I SENTENCING OR RE

02:23 - 05.840 SENTENCING AS THE CASE

02:23 - 08.020 MAY BE I KNEW THEN IN THOSE

02:23 - 09.510 CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE YOU NEED

02:23 - 11.290 SOME KIND OF THAT EXTRA CAST

02:23 - 11.580 MONTH.

02:23 - 14.170 >>VERY RARE. THE MAJORITY THAT

02:23 - 16.300 I'VE SEEN HAVE IN RESTITUTION

02:23 - 17.630 CASES WHERE WE NEED TO BRING IN

02:23 - 18.600 EXPERTS FOR SOME SORT OF THE

02:23 - 21.390 VALLEY. VALUATION OF SOME SORT

02:23 - 22.760 OF PROPERTY THAT WAS DESTROYED

02:23 - 24.220 THAT SEEMS TO BE THE PRIMARY

02:23 - 25.990 EXPERT THAT WILL YOU BRING IN

02:23 - 26.090 FOR

02:23 - 27.970 SENSING PURPOSES. THE OTHER

02:23 - 29.130 EXPERTS AND WE BRING IN WOULD

02:23 - 30.300 BE IN DEATH COUNTY.

02:23 - 32.160 CASES WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO

02:23 - 33.970 SEND SOMEONE WE NEED TO HAVE

02:23 - 35.260 PSYCHOLOGICAL OR FORENSIC

02:23 - 36.210 EXPERTS TESTIFY AT THE

02:23 - 37.180 SENTENCING HEARING.

02:23 - 38.800 >>AND JUST AS A MATTER OF

02:23 - 41.430 PRACTICE OR THOSE EXPENSES IN

02:23 - 42.780 THE ORDINARY COURSE

02:23 - 44.340 I CHARGED AS COST OF

02:23 - 45.880 PROSECUTION AGAINST IN BEND,

02:23 - 48.150 IT. YES, YOU'RE AND

02:23 - 48.600 THANK YOU.

02:23 - 50.480 >>THANK YOU, THANK YOU AND

02:23 - 53.580 WE'LL HEAR NOW FROM A. COUNSEL

02:23 - 54.010 FOR THE UP

02:23 - 59.150 WE UNDERSTAND THAT DAY.

02:23 - 00.600 ALSO THAT DEAD.

02:24 - 03.500 COUNCIL OR

02:24 - 07.470 KELLEY. THIS YEAR IS A

02:24 - 09.620 PRESIDENT ON HER.

02:24 - 13.680 AND THEY LOVE OR TO ANSWER ANY

02:24 - 15.320 QUESTIONS REPORT. I

02:24 - 18.470 HAVE IT AND MISTER

02:24 - 21.080 BOOKMAN WELL ARE YOU ON BEHALF

02:24 - 21.670 OF BOTH

02:24 - 23.660 ELI'S BUTTON.

02:24 - 25.930 >>MISTER CHIEF JUSTICE AND MAY

02:24 - 26.850 IT PLEASE THE COURT.

02:24 - 29.070 I

02:24 - 31.970 >>BASED ON MEET THE

02:24 - 33.310 CHIEF JUSTICE'S COMMENTS IN THE

02:24 - 34.770 LAST CASE I WILL NOT DESCRIBE

02:24 - 36.140 THIS CASE IS THE SIMPLE ONE.

02:24 - 39.750 HOWEVER IT DOES THIS CASE DOES

02:24 - 41.890 REST BOTH CASES REST ONE

02:24 - 44.470 A SINGLE STATUTE 16 P S

02:24 - 46.620 14 '03 AND IT'S OUR POSITION

02:24 - 49.300 THAT AH FUNDAMENTAL TENETS OF

02:24 - 51.670 STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION. I WAS

02:24 - 52.980 ALL THIS CASE IN FAVOR OF

02:24 - 55.050 MISTER LEHMANN AND MISTER DAVIS

02:24 - 57.310 I WANT TO REPEAT THE QUESTIONS

02:24 - 57.950 OF SOME OF THAT

02:24 - 00.370 EARLIER JUSTICES. YOU KNOW THE

02:25 - 01.630 FIRST AND LAST QUESTION OF

02:25 - 03.970 ANY STATUTORY. NOW ASSESS IS

02:25 - 05.400 WHAT DID THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

02:25 - 09.110 IN 10. WE DID TO ASCERTAIN WHAT

02:25 - 10.480 THEY INTENDED. WE LOOK

02:25 - 11.800 AT THE WORDS THAT ARE USED AND

02:25 - 13.020 THE WORDS THAT ARE NOT

02:25 - 14.560 IN THIS CASE, THE WORDS THAT

02:25 - 16.010 ARE USED ARE CLEAR AND

02:25 - 18.330 UNAMBIGUOUS. COST OF

02:25 - 20.340 PROSECUTION AND TRIAL.

02:25 - 22.350 AS JUST A SWEAT POINTED

02:25 - 25.170 OUT IF IF OF THE LEGISLATURE

02:25 - 26.920 INTENDED PROSECUTION TO INCLUDE

02:25 - 29.160 SENSING IN THE WORDS AND TRIAL

02:25 - 30.550 WOULD BE SURPLUS EDGE

02:25 - 31.950 AND WE ASSUME THAT THE

02:25 - 33.940 LEGISLATURE INTENDS ALL THE

02:25 - 35.840 WORDS THAT USES AT THE SAME

02:25 - 37.520 TIME WE LOOK AT WORDS THAT ARE

02:25 - 39.040 NOT USE. IN

02:25 - 40.780 THIS CASE. THE WORD THAT IS NOT

02:25 - 42.430 USE THE SENTENCING AND THIS

02:25 - 43.450 COURT HAS NEVER

02:25 - 45.660 AND EDWARDS TO

02:25 - 48.030 A STATUTE. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS

02:25 - 48.970 STATUTE IS CLEAR AND

02:25 - 50.660 UNAMBIGUOUS IF THIS COURT

02:25 - 52.470 BELIEVES, AND IT IS AMBIGUOUS

02:25 - 54.480 IN ANY WAY COMMONWEALTH VERSUS

02:25 - 56.400 GUARD ZONE. CASE THIS

02:25 - 58.150 COULD DECIDE WITHIN THE

02:25 - 00.310 LAST DECADE. DECLARED THE

02:26 - 02.480 SISTER STATUTE, 77 '08 IS

02:26 - 04.520 STANDING FOR THE FIRST. FOR

02:26 - 06.210 THAT'S A FIRST CLASS OF

02:26 - 07.970 COUNTIES COULD BE A PENAL

02:26 - 09.720 STATUTES THAT WOULD REQUIRE

02:26 - 11.150 THIS COOLER TO MEET

02:26 - 13.810 THE STATUE NARROWLY STRICTLY

02:26 - 15.240 AND IN FAVOR OF THE DEFENDANTS

02:26 - 16.800 MISTER LEHMANN AND

02:26 - 18.030 MISTER DAYS.

02:26 - 21.220 FINALLY THIS COURT HAS STATED

02:26 - 22.480 THAT IT WILL NOT MEET

02:26 - 24.350 CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTIONS UNLESS

02:26 - 25.640 ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

02:26 - 27.660 OBVIOUSLY WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S

02:26 - 28.580 NOT NECESSARY

02:26 - 30.850 REACH CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTIONS

02:26 - 32.910 IN THIS CASE BUT IF THE COURT

02:26 - 35.840 DECIDED OTHERWISE. OPPOSITION

02:26 - 40.850 PUNISHING TO JUVENILE LIFERS OR

02:26 - 43.290 EXERCISING THE RIGHT TO A SENSE

02:26 - 44.720 THAT COMPLIES WITH THE 8TH

02:26 - 46.700 AMENDMENT AND IMPOSE COSTS FOR

02:26 - 48.840 WHICH THEY HAD NO NOTICE WOULD

02:26 - 51.210 VIOLATE DUE PROCESS AND WITH

02:26 - 52.530 THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

02:26 - 55.720 QUESTIONS FROM THE JUST

02:26 - 56.340 DOUGHERTY.

02:26 - 58.490 >>I'M NO QUESTIONS FOR MISTER

02:26 - 00.430 BOOKMAN HE SUMMED IT UP AS I

02:27 - 02.410 EXPECTED. YEAH I AGREE THANK

02:27 - 04.540 YOU JUSTICE WORK. THANK YOU

02:27 - 06.310 CHIEF JUSTICE MISTER BOOKMAN

02:27 - 08.850 IF THE PURPOSE OF THE STATUTE

02:27 - 12.450 IS TOO. SHERIFF THE COSTS OF

02:27 - 14.540 THE PROSECUTION TO

02:27 - 17.510 THE WRONGDOER THEN IS IT NOT

02:27 - 18.660 CONSISTENT WITH THAT

02:27 - 21.370 INTERPRETATION TO INCLUDE

02:27 - 23.730 SENTENCING IN THE COSTS IMPOSED

02:27 - 24.540 ON THE DEFENDANT.

02:27 - 27.160 >>WELL JUSTICE

02:27 - 30.540 CERTAINLY THAT THOUGH THE

02:27 - 32.520 LANGUAGE OF THE STATUTE I WOULD

02:27 - 36.210 SAY OTHERWISE. IT MIGHT BE

02:27 - 37.530 CONSISTENT AND IT MIGHT NOT BE

02:27 - 38.690 CONSISTENT THAT THE

02:27 - 41.120 STATUTE SPECIFICALLY NOT

02:27 - 43.150 SPECIFICALLY OMITTED THE WORD.

02:27 - 43.790 THE WORD

02:27 - 46.840 THERE ARE POLICY DOES

02:27 - 50.430 THIS AGREEMENT IN THE CASE LOT

02:27 - 51.360 TO TALK ABOUT.

02:27 - 55.020 THE MOVING THE COSTS

02:27 - 57.890 OF PROSECUTION TO THE WRONG

02:27 - 00.390 DOOR AT THE SAME TIME. I EAT

02:28 - 03.190 CREATES A PROBLEM WITH. PLEA

02:28 - 04.810 NEGOTIATIONS IN THE SENSE THAT

02:28 - 09.480 DEFENDANTS DON'T CAN ANTICIPATE

02:28 - 10.510 WHAT THEIR WHAT THEY MIGHT

02:28 - 11.960 REASONABLY YES

02:28 - 14.280 TO PAY. IN FACT YOU'RE RIGHT, I

02:28 - 15.510 MEAN YOU'RE IN YOUR QUESTION

02:28 - 17.330 ABOUT NOTICE. THE NAME

02:28 - 20.360 DEFENDANTS CAME CLOSE TO THAT

02:28 - 22.670 ISSUE. ALTHOUGH NOT 35 YEARS

02:28 - 23.330 LATER SO

02:28 - 25.840 POLICY DEBATES, SO EITHER WAY

02:28 - 27.170 ON THIS AND I THINK YOU KNOW

02:28 - 28.470 GIVEN GIVEN THAT.

02:28 - 31.270 THAT THAT THAT REASONABLE MINDS

02:28 - 33.100 CAN DIFFER ABOUT ABOUT POLICY

02:28 - 34.730 CONSIDERATIONS, THE LANGUAGE OF

02:28 - 35.810 THE STATUTE I THINK SHOULD

02:28 - 36.510 CONTROL HERE.

02:28 - 40.480 >>GIVEN THAT THE COMMONWEALTH

02:28 - 41.980 HAS CLEAN HANDS HERE THAT

02:28 - 43.500 NEITHER YOU NOR THE

02:28 - 45.060 COMMONWEALTH ARE RESPONSIBLE

02:28 - 47.390 FOR THIS SEE CHANGES, NOBODY'S

02:28 - 49.110 BALL SO TO SPEAK.

02:28 - 53.060 WHY WOULD WE NOT THEN HE BOUND

02:28 - 55.020 TO DEFAULT TO

02:28 - 56.860 THE GENERALS GENERAL

02:28 - 00.100 ASSEMBLY'S INTENSE TO SHIFT THE

02:29 - 02.120 OBLIGATION FROM THE TAXPAYER TO

02:29 - 03.340 THE WRONGDOER ONCE THERE'S

02:29 - 04.010 A CONVICTION.

02:29 - 06.740 >>WELL I CERTAINLY WOULD NOT

02:29 - 09.240 AGREE THAT THAT'S THE GENERAL

02:29 - 11.630 ASSEMBLY'S INTENT. BUT BUT

02:29 - 13.680 LEAVING THAT ASIDE I THINK THE

02:29 - 15.480 KEY QUESTION AT LEAST IN A IN A

02:29 - 17.850 DUE PROCESS ANALYSIS IS NOW IN

02:29 - 19.110 THE COMMONWEALTH IS IT FOR

02:29 - 21.050 WEATHER. MISTER LANE OR MISTER

02:29 - 23.170 DAVIS IS AT FAULT. CLEARLY

02:29 - 25.110 NEITHER ONE OF THEM OR ARE

02:29 - 27.540 AT FAULT. SO SO YOU KNOW.

02:29 - 29.650 I THINK IT WOULD BE A DUE

02:29 - 31.770 PROCESS VIOLATION 2

02:29 - 35.350 IMPOSE A COSTLY PUNISHMENT

02:29 - 37.490 REALLY. ONE OF THESE ON THESE

02:29 - 39.850 JUVENILE LIFERS AFTER DECADES

02:29 - 41.700 OF INCARCERATION SIMPLY BECAUSE

02:29 - 43.770 THEY WERE SEEKING A SENSE THAT

02:29 - 45.050 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE 8TH

02:29 - 46.490 AMENDMENT. SO

02:29 - 48.520 I DON'T KNOW FOR YOU TO YOUR

02:29 - 51.850 QUESTION JUST YES MISTER

02:29 - 52.700 BOOKMAN THANK YOU SIR.

02:29 - 54.530 >>THANK YOU JUSTICE MONDAY.

02:29 - 57.430 NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU JESS IS

02:29 - 57.860 BARE.

02:30 - 02.870 >>AS HIS BEARD YEAR MUTE

02:30 - 03.300 BUTTON.

02:30 - 08.920 >>THANK YEAR

02:30 - 13.710 BOND PERMANENT GUARD BECOMES A

02:30 - 14.110 LOT.

02:30 - 16.930 THIS WILL BE I THINK YOU MAY

02:30 - 18.110 PREVAIL IN THIS CASE, BUT I

02:30 - 19.830 DON'T THINK YOU PREVAIL ON THE

02:30 - 21.000 ARGUMENT YOU MAKE

02:30 - 22.810 ASSUME FOR A SECOND THAT WE

02:30 - 24.900 HAVE KNOW THAT YOUR DEFENSE

02:30 - 26.310 COUNSEL BUS IN FOR SECOND YOU

02:30 - 27.500 DEFENDING IN A FIRST-DEGREE

02:30 - 29.330 MURDER CASE AND OF COURSE WE

02:30 - 30.710 HAVE THE GUILT PHASE ONLY OF

02:30 - 30.780 THE

02:30 - 32.800 COUNTY FACE AND AT THE PENALTY

02:30 - 34.110 PHASE, THE COMMONWEALTH CAUSE

02:30 - 35.500 AN EXPERT ON MENTAL HEALTH

02:30 - 36.440 MITIGATION OR

02:30 - 38.890 THE LIKE. DEFENDANT EVENTUALLY

02:30 - 40.950 GETS A YOU TELLING ME THAT IT'S

02:30 - 42.200 THE LAW OF THE COMMONWEALTH ITS

02:30 - 43.530 PRACTICE, THE COWELL

02:30 - 46.440 THE COST FOR THE COMMONWEALTH

02:30 - 47.870 EXPERT UNDER THOSE FACTS ARE

02:30 - 48.880 NOT ASSESSED AGAINST THE

02:30 - 49.400 DEFENDANT.

02:30 - 52.350 >>FIRST JUSTICE TARA LET ME LET

02:30 - 53.980 ME JUST SAY I WOULD BE HAPPY TO

02:30 - 57.470 WEAN UNDER ANY. BUT LEAVING

02:30 - 58.330 THAT ASIDE.

02:30 - 01.870 I CANNOT THINK OF A OF A

02:31 - 03.840 CAPITAL CASE IN WHICH THE COST

02:31 - 05.970 OF PROSECUTION WERE IMPOSED AND

02:31 - 07.650 AND THIS STATUTE DOES NOT ALLOW

02:31 - 08.080 FOR THAT.

02:31 - 12.490 THIS STATUTE. THERE'S NOT ALLOW

02:31 - 13.800 FOR COST OF SENSING.

02:31 - 15.970 BUT YOU KNOW

02:31 - 18.290 HAVING SAID THAT I USE THE

02:31 - 21.830 CAPITAL CASE, I'M OWNERS I

02:31 - 23.340 INTERRUPTED MY TIME IS SHORT.

02:31 - 24.650 >>BUT YOU ARE.

02:31 - 26.040 >>POSITION

02:31 - 29.760 ASSUMES THAT SENTENCING IS NOT

02:31 - 30.780 A PART OF THE TRIAL.

02:31 - 33.670 >>IT'S SENSING IS CLEARLY NOT

02:31 - 33.990 PART OF

02:31 - 36.510 THE TRIAL. THERE'S A RECENT

02:31 - 37.720 UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT

02:31 - 39.470 CASE BETTERMENT VERSUS MONTANA

02:31 - 39.950 THAT

02:31 - 41.750 DISCUSSES THAT THAT THAT THE

02:31 - 44.200 DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A TRIAL AND

02:31 - 47.060 SENTENCING. I'M NOT SAYING THAT

02:31 - 48.600 IT WOULD BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL

02:31 - 51.160 FOR A SENTENCING FOR COST TO BE

02:31 - 53.350 ASSOCIATED WITH A SENTENCING.

02:31 - 55.280 POSSIBLY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A

02:31 - 56.830 STATUE DID EVEN LESS THAN THAT.

02:31 - 00.340 AND I AM I AM SAYING I'M NOT

02:32 - 02.160 AWARE OF A SINGLE CAPITAL CASE

02:32 - 02.880 IN WHICH THE

02:32 - 05.800 COST OF SENSING A WERE IMPOSED

02:32 - 08.050 WANTED TO WHERE LAST QUESTION

02:32 - 09.350 YOU WEAR CAPITAL CASES.

02:32 - 11.810 >>WHERE THE COST OF PROSECUTION

02:32 - 13.520 HAS MORE HER. WE'RE

02:32 - 15.270 MERITS TRIAL, GUILT

02:32 - 17.090 OR INNOCENCE HAVE BEEN IMPOSED

02:32 - 17.790 THE SENTENCE IT IS

02:32 - 18.230 NOT GOOD.

02:32 - 20.350 >>JUST AS THERE I'LL BE HONEST

02:32 - 22.480 WITH YOU I'M NOT AWARE OF IT.

02:32 - 24.130 BUT I WILL SAY THAT AS A MATTER

02:32 - 25.970 OF PRACTICALITY YOU KNOW WHEN

02:32 - 28.000 AND WHY IF THE JURY REACHES A

02:32 - 29.580 PENALTY PHASE, THE OP OR THE

02:32 - 31.060 OPTION TO LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE

02:32 - 34.180 OR DEATH. SO THE THE THE THE

02:32 - 35.360 DEFENDANT IS NOT GOING TO BE IN

02:32 - 36.840 A POSITION TO PAY SIGNIFICANT

02:32 - 38.700 COSTS REGARDLESS OF THE

02:32 - 40.260 OUTCOME. I AGREE IT'S LIKE

02:32 - 42.010 RESOLUTION CAN BE IMPOSED TO

02:32 - 43.520 NOT COLLECTED THANK YOU VERY

02:32 - 45.060 MUCH I'M SORRY SIR.

02:32 - 46.720 >>YES, THIS TIME.

02:32 - 49.300 >>THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE.

02:32 - 52.420 ALONG THOSE SAME LINES COUNCIL

02:32 - 54.620 ARE BOTH OF THESE DEFENDANTS

02:32 - 56.630 NOW NOT A SCAM.

02:32 - 59.730 >>MISTER DAVIS'S IS NOT

02:32 - 01.660 YEAH AS IT TURNS

02:33 - 04.970 >>THE KEY HE STILL IT REMAINS

02:33 - 05.900 AN INCARCERATED.

02:33 - 09.620 I BELIEVE MISS THE LATEST NEWS

02:33 - 10.790 OUT OF OUT OF PRISON.

02:33 - 14.230 THE SHOW'S TO SACK HER.

02:33 - 18.330 THAT IS CORRECT HE IS NO LONGER

02:33 - 19.080 INCARCERATED.

02:33 - 24.860 THANK YOU ED, JUST AS

02:33 - 25.420 JOHN HERE.

02:33 - 28.120 >>YEAH, 1, 1, ONE QUESTION ON.

02:33 - 30.050 IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR EYE IN

02:33 - 31.470 SACK RATE YOU'VE BEEN THINKING

02:33 - 31.930 THE SAME

02:33 - 35.410 ARGUMENT ON IF THIS WERE IN

02:33 - 38.600 REGIONAL SENTENCING AI JUVENILE

02:33 - 41.350 I A NOW NOT IN YOUR CLIENT'S

02:33 - 42.960 POSITIONING A RE SENTENCING.

02:33 - 45.270 I WOULD BE YOUR POSITION AND IT

02:33 - 48.460 WOULD BE I FIND THAT UNUSUAL TO

02:33 - 49.880 IMPOSE THE COSTS

02:33 - 52.430 ON A NEWLY I

02:33 - 55.050 CONVICTED JUVENILE WHO ARE IS

02:33 - 57.520 REQUIRED GUY TO GO THROUGH A

02:33 - 59.950 I HEARING AS WE INDICATED

02:33 - 00.510 IN BATH.

02:34 - 03.800 >>IT WOULD BE YOUR JUSTICE

02:34 - 04.830 DONAHUE THAT THAT.

02:34 - 08.590 THE STATUTE THAT WOULD ALLOW

02:34 - 11.470 FOR THAT. NOW IF IT WAS A

02:34 - 12.750 STATUE THAT ALLOW

02:34 - 14.290 FOR IT THEN I THINK THE

02:34 - 16.360 CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES APPLIED

02:34 - 17.880 THE RE SENTENCING ASPECT.

02:34 - 20.800 WITHOUT A STATUTE THAT WOULD BE

02:34 - 21.980 CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES THAT

02:34 - 23.190 THERE WOULD BE NO NOTICE.

02:34 - 26.280 AND I DON'T AND I HONESTLY

02:34 - 28.060 COUNCIL I DON'T UNDERSTAND NOW

02:34 - 30.590 WHY IS IT DIFFERENT LAST YEAR.

02:34 - 33.970 >>ITS CONTACTS IN I RE

02:34 - 35.150 SENTENCING VERSUS THE

02:34 - 36.150 REGIONAL SENSE.

02:34 - 38.480 >>WELL THAT THEY DID THEY WOULD

02:34 - 40.420 BE THERE WOULD BE A A DUE

02:34 - 41.620 PROCESS VIOLATION BECAUSE

02:34 - 43.180 THERE'D BE ADDITIONAL THE

02:34 - 46.230 PUNISHMENT. THAT WOULD THAT

02:34 - 48.460 WOULD IMPACT THEM SIMPLY

02:34 - 50.040 BECAUSE THEY WERE SEEKING A

02:34 - 52.000 SENTENCE. HE COMPLIED WITH THE

02:34 - 53.480 8TH AMENDMENT AND THEY HAVE

02:34 - 55.230 NO NOTICE OF THE ADDITIONAL

02:34 - 58.050 COSTS OF PUNISHMENT. IF IS THIS

02:34 - 59.820 CASE WAS IT WAS AN INITIAL

02:34 - 01.680 SENTENCING AND THERE WAS A

02:35 - 04.020 STATUTE DOES ALLOW FOR COST OF

02:35 - 06.050 SENTENCING. THEN THERE MIGHT OR

02:35 - 07.420 MIGHT NOT BE CONSTITUTIONAL

02:35 - 08.550 IMPLICATIONS, BUT IT WOULD BE A

02:35 - 09.390 DIFFERENT ARGUMENT.

02:35 - 10.390 OK AND.

02:35 - 13.110 >>THANK YOU, THANKS TO BOTH

02:35 - 16.270 COUNCIL. A DISCREET OBVIOUSLY A

02:35 - 18.840 VERY DISCREET. AND FINALLY A

02:35 - 19.730 LEGAL ISSUE

02:35 - 21.690 WITH THAT WE'LL CONCLUDE THAT

02:35 - 23.120 ARGUMENT ENDED UP.

02:35 - 27.460 MENSA ARGUMENT IN THE NEXT

02:35 - 29.000 OCCASION, ONE 25.

02:35 - 33.130 >>PEOPLE FROM HAGERSTOWN WELL

02:35 - 33.960 SOUTH OF HERE ALONG THE

02:35 - 35.190 MOUNTAIN RANGE WE'RE COMING IN

02:35 - 36.730 THERE GETTYSBURG AND SAY THE

02:35 - 37.980 COMPUTER FOR MOVING NORTH.

02:35 - 39.590 AND IF THEY CHOSE TO COME OVER

02:35 - 41.000 THE MOUNTAINS THAT THEIR

02:35 - 42.530 HARVESTS WERE IN DANGER,

02:35 - 44.010 GETTYSBURG BATTLE WALKS A

02:35 - 45.860 GUIDED TOURS OF THE HISTORIC

02:35 - 48.000 BATTLEFIELD LED BY THE EXPERTS

02:35 - 48.670 WHO CAN TELL YOU

02:35 - 50.790 WHAT HAPPENED EACH BOTTLE WALK

02:35 - 52.580 LET YOU WALK IN THE SHOES OF

02:35 - 54.700 THE MEN WHO FOUGHT AND DIED

02:35 - 55.040 HERE.

02:35 - 56.880 >>GETTYSBURG BATTLE LOCKS,

02:35 - 59.530 JULY FIRST SECOND AND 3RD ONLY

02:35 - 00.760 ON PC M.

02:36 - 02.890 >>THE NEXT ARGUMENT IS IN THE

02:36 - 05.070 MATTER OF S P VERSUS S S

02:36 - 07.660 APPEAL OF SS RICHARD CODEY AND

02:36 - 10.020 VICTORIA MCINTYRE REPRESENTING

02:36 - 11.010 OPPONENTS IS

02:36 - 12.620 AND RICHARD DEPOT TO

02:36 - 15.090 REPRESENTING KELLY IS ATTORNEYS

02:36 - 16.140 ELIZABETH PRIDE.

02:36 - 17.820 >>I

02:36 - 20.270 GET AFTERNOON. A FAMILY COURT

02:36 - 22.140 JUDGE PRESIDING OVER A CHILD

02:36 - 24.850 CUSTODY CASE ENTERED A GAG

02:36 - 26.460 ORDER THE RESTRICTED ALLEN'S

02:36 - 27.520 FROM MUNG

02:36 - 29.350 OTHER THINGS DIRECTING OR

02:36 - 31.130 ENCOURAGING SEARCH PARTIES

02:36 - 33.580 SPEAK PUBLICLY OR COMMUNICATE

02:36 - 35.040 ABOUT THE CUSTODY CASE.

02:36 - 37.810 ALLEN SAID LAUNCHING

02:36 - 40.460 AN APPEAL. I CONTINUE TO DO OR

02:36 - 42.000 VIOLATED THEIR RIGHTS TO FREE

02:36 - 44.320 SPEECH. SHOULD THE UNITED

02:36 - 46.310 STATES CONSTITUTION. THE

02:36 - 46.940 PENNSYLVANIA

02:36 - 49.350 CONTEST ISH WE SURE ARE

02:36 - 51.320 CONCLUDED THAT THE GAG ORDER

02:36 - 52.450 WAS CONSTITUTIONALLY

02:36 - 55.440 PERMISSIBLE. THIS COURT IS NOW

02:36 - 58.430 REVIEWING THAT TERMINATION IF

02:36 - 59.060 YOU'RE THE COUNTY.

02:37 - 01.700 >>IT'S GOOD AFTERNOON. MISTER

02:37 - 03.030 JAKE GUEST IS AN HONORABLE

02:37 - 04.820 JUSTICES OF THE SUPREME COURT.

02:37 - 06.890 MY NAME IS URGENTLY CODY.

02:37 - 11.720 HEARING AS COUNCIL OR.

02:37 - 15.250 YES, YES, A PROMINENT. IT'S

02:37 - 16.220 BURNED POSITION.

02:37 - 20.000 I'M ALSO AREAS ACROSS A FELLOW

02:37 - 21.580 COUNCIL FOR MY ASSOCIATE.

02:37 - 23.870 4 AMERICAN TOUR.

02:37 - 28.320 IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE THE 3

02:37 - 30.520 GAGGED ORTIZ IN THIS FOR

02:37 - 33.070 SAVING. NOT

02:37 - 35.870 ALL I MY ASSOCIATE ARE

02:37 - 38.880 MY CLIENT. AND ON THIS GAME

02:37 - 39.390 ORDER.

02:37 - 43.680 ABOUT THIS CASE PUBLICLY AND

02:37 - 45.200 THEN IT CAME OUT THE CASE.

02:37 - 46.980 I ENCOURAGE OTHER PEOPLE TO

02:37 - 47.630 TALK ABOUT

02:37 - 49.820 THIS CASE OR AND HER GOT TO BE

02:37 - 51.640 ABLE TO FIND OUT THE DETAILS OF

02:37 - 54.500 THIS CASE. AND KNOW THAT HE.

02:37 - 57.940 TURNING PRIDE WHO REPRESENTS

02:37 - 59.490 THE FATHER IN THIS CASE.

02:38 - 00.570 AND

02:38 - 03.020 HER CLIENT AND ALL THE OTHER

02:38 - 05.210 ATTORNEYS WHO REPRESENTED MARC

02:38 - 05.850 WHY IN THE

02:38 - 09.240 TRIAL COURT. I'M ABSOLUTELY OLD

02:38 - 11.800 UNBRIDLED FREEDOM. THEY GO ON

02:38 - 13.890 DOCTOR PHIL HOLD A PRESS

02:38 - 15.180 CONFERENCE TO STAND ON

02:38 - 18.150 THE CORNER TO GIVE NEWSPAPER IS

02:38 - 18.460 TO DO

02:38 - 21.810 ANYTHING ELSE. ALL MY SHOWS AND

02:38 - 23.960 I ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CARES

02:38 - 26.710 ABOUT K. I WANT TO FIRST YEAR

02:38 - 28.460 THAT THE QUESTIONNAIRE COURT.

02:38 - 31.720 WE'RE HEADED INTERVIEW ON.

02:38 - 34.850 SEEMS THE LIMIT. THE QUESTION

02:38 - 36.450 TO WHETHER OR NOT THE

02:38 - 37.210 PROCESSION

02:38 - 39.670 OF YEARS. GETTING INFORMATION

02:38 - 42.080 THEIR INTENT TO IDENTIFY KYLE.

02:38 - 43.640 ALL IT

02:38 - 46.220 IS PERMISSIBLE. I WANT TO FIRST

02:38 - 48.230 POINT YEAH DISORDERS MARK

02:38 - 51.860 BARDEN AT THE FIRST SENTENCE OF

02:38 - 54.980 THE AREA OR THAT OR ISSUED

02:38 - 56.190 IN MIDLIFE.

02:38 - 00.230 LA AS YOU COULD FIND THE

02:39 - 02.740 SUPPORTED SAYS. IT IS HEREBY

02:39 - 03.750 ORDERED THAT THE DEFENDANT

02:39 - 06.700 S S RICHARD CODEY

02:39 - 10.840 BACK TO OUR SHOW NOT SPEAK

02:39 - 13.870 PUBLICLY COMMUNICATE ABOUT THIS

02:39 - 14.400 CASE.

02:39 - 17.050 AND THIS COMMONWEALTH HAS A

02:39 - 19.380 HISTORY OF PROTECTING FREE

02:39 - 20.240 SPEECH.

02:39 - 25.120 STRINGENTLY THAN THE UNITED

02:39 - 27.480 STATES CONSTITUTION. THE U.S..

02:39 - 34.010 ONLY LIMITS.

02:39 - 37.330 THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE

02:39 - 38.320 CHILD'S NAME.

02:39 - 41.090 TO THE TESTIMONY OF 4

02:39 - 42.930 LEGISLATIVE BODIES WERE TOLD

02:39 - 46.060 AT OR WE WANT TO USE THIS CASE

02:39 - 46.920 BEEN TRYING TO GET THE

02:39 - 48.880 LAW CHANGED AND THAT WE

02:39 - 50.890 INTENDED TO TESTIFY BEFORE

02:39 - 52.320 LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEES.

02:39 - 55.260 SHE SAID THAT WAS FINE BUT MY

02:39 - 57.520 CLIENT COULD NOT USE HER NAME.

02:39 - 59.870 I ASKED HER IF SHE HAD TO WEAR

02:39 - 03.040 BAG OVER HER HEAD. CARDI HAVE

02:40 - 04.020 UNIQUE IDEA.

02:40 - 05.650 >>IF YOU WANT TO GET THE LAW

02:40 - 08.120 CHANGED REAGAN LUCKY. YES, YES,

02:40 - 10.280 AND QUESTIONS WITH JUST HIS

02:40 - 10.610 WORK.

02:40 - 14.600 >>THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE GOOD

02:40 - 15.780 AFTERNOON MISTER CODY.

02:40 - 20.010 SIR IS IT YOUR POSITION THAT

02:40 - 29.220 MC LING RESTRICTS MOTHER

02:40 - 31.320 FROM SPEAKING ABOUT MOTHER AND

02:40 - 34.580 COUNCIL. ABOUT THE CASE IN

02:40 - 36.070 A MANNER THAT

02:40 - 40.480 IDENTIFY THE CHILD OR ALLOW

02:40 - 42.680 IDENTIFICATION OF THE CHILD OR

02:40 - 44.610 IS IT YOUR VIEW THAT THE ORDER.

02:40 - 48.170 >>RESTRICTS ALL IF YOU FROM

02:40 - 49.840 SPEAKING ABOUT THE CASE AT ALL

02:40 - 51.900 SUBJECT OF A FEW. A

02:40 - 53.240 LIMITED EXCEPTIONS.

02:40 - 54.680 >>IT'S VERY CLEAR FROM THE

02:40 - 55.930 LANGUAGE OF THE CASE IN THE

02:40 - 58.550 SENSE THAT IT'S RATHER IS THE

02:40 - 00.880 FIRST SENTENCE IN ORDER SAYS

02:41 - 02.710 THAT WE CAN NOT SPEAK PUBLICLY

02:41 - 05.110 OR COMMUNICATE ABOUT THE CASE.

02:41 - 07.750 SO THAT'S WHAT HE SAYS AND

02:41 - 08.890 WE'RE THE ONLY ONES IN THE

02:41 - 10.350 OTHER SIDE CAN PARK ALL THEY

02:41 - 11.350 WANT ABOUT IT.

02:41 - 12.740 >>AND SO ON

02:41 - 16.130 FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE A FROM A

02:41 - 17.770 FROM A FREE SPEECH FROM A FIRST

02:41 - 20.260 AMENDMENT PERSPECTIVE AS WELL

02:41 - 20.700 AS THE

02:41 - 23.140 PENNSYLVANIA ANALOG IS IT YOUR

02:41 - 24.750 VIEW THAT THE PRINCIPAL

02:41 - 26.610 CONSTITUTIONAL INFIRMITY OF THE

02:41 - 28.110 GAG ORDER IS IT'S OVER.

02:41 - 31.560 >>WELL IT CERTAINLY IS OVER

02:41 - 34.310 BREAD OVER BROUGHT HOWEVER

02:41 - 36.560 ITS CONTENT BASE WHICH IS

02:41 - 38.490 PRESUMPTIVELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

02:41 - 41.030 IT'S A PRIOR RESTRAINT ON STAGE

02:41 - 42.360 WHICH IS PRESUMPTIVELY

02:41 - 44.200 UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THIS

02:41 - 46.050 APPEAR IN COURT DOES NOT ENGAGE

02:41 - 48.370 IN ANY SIGNIFICANT NOW SAYS.

02:41 - 51.840 >>OF AND THAT

02:41 - 54.930 A REQUIREMENT THAT TEST FOR

02:41 - 56.660 STRICT SCRUTINY UNDER

02:41 - 59.200 THE CONSTITUTION. YOU KNOW ONE

02:41 - 01.340 OF THE ONE OF THE PHRASES THAT

02:42 - 03.080 USING THE GAG ORDER THAT IS

02:42 - 05.930 CLEARLY OVERLY BROAD IS

02:42 - 08.850 YOU CAN'T SHARE INFORMATION

02:42 - 09.190 THAT

02:42 - 12.250 QUOTE CHAN'S TO IDENTIFY THE

02:42 - 14.400 CHILD NOW DON'T KNOW WHAT AND

02:42 - 16.770 YOU OF HOW ALL OF THAT THAT CAN

02:42 - 18.650 BE INTERPRETED. THANK YOU MY

02:42 - 19.800 MIND SPACE.

02:42 - 23.970 SHE MIGHT NOT JAY HER

02:42 - 25.390 NAME BUT YOU KNOW

02:42 - 27.170 SHE SHE CERTAINLY HAS A FACE

02:42 - 28.730 AND I CAN BE IN AND THEY'RE

02:42 - 30.400 SCARED OR ARE SET TO GIVE THAT

02:42 - 30.650 UP.

02:42 - 35.100 >>YES THE MONEY.

02:42 - 42.110 JUST MAYBE I

02:42 - 44.090 NEED TO MOVE, BUT NICE I'M

02:42 - 46.130 SORRY I WAS DOING JUSTICE PAIRS

02:42 - 48.480 I'M DOING MY JOB.

02:42 - 52.480 >>WOULD YOU BE AS OPPOSED TO

02:42 - 54.120 THE ORDER ON A CONSTITUTIONAL

02:42 - 56.540 BASIS IF IN FACT INCLUDED

02:42 - 59.130 FATHER AND FATHERS COUNCIL ARE

02:42 - 01.570 YOU WOULD YOU STILL BE. HERE

02:43 - 02.950 TODAY CHALLENGING THEM.

02:43 - 03.700 THE ORDER.

02:43 - 06.980 >>IT WAS A STUNT TO SHOW, BUT I

02:43 - 08.560 THINK THE FACT THAT IT DOES NOT

02:43 - 10.660 INCLUDE THEM POINTS OUT THAT

02:43 - 12.370 THIS IS NOT ABOUT.

02:43 - 15.270 >>MISTER KING.

02:43 - 20.610 COMMENT THAT CASE IS ABOUT AND

02:43 - 21.380 THEY NEED TO

02:43 - 24.180 A CHILL CRITICISM OF THE

02:43 - 26.630 COURT'S DECISION. YOU KNOW I

02:43 - 27.950 HAD THIS IS ESPECIALLY

02:43 - 29.920 TROUBLESOME YOU KNOW TO TAKE A

02:43 - 30.270 TURN

02:43 - 33.100 ASIAN LEGANES. UNDER THE

02:43 - 36.060 INCARCERATION ARE PROHIBITED.

02:43 - 39.540 2. DISCUSSING THE PUBLIC.

02:43 - 44.140 >>DISAGREEMENTS THAT THEY HAD

02:43 - 46.440 WITH COURTROOM. HIS IS IT WAS

02:43 - 48.500 VERY VERY THE WORST.

02:43 - 52.390 >>YES IS BETTER.

02:43 - 55.330 I'M JUST

02:43 - 57.020 KISSES A PREFACE I'M CURIOUS

02:43 - 58.470 HEAT, YOU SAID ALL OF YOUR

02:43 - 00.400 COLUMN CLIENTS PRIOR COUNSEL

02:44 - 01.680 HOW MANY OF THEM ARE THERE.

02:44 - 03.650 >>THERE WERE 2 OTHER COUNCIL.

02:44 - 05.640 2 OTHER IN HOW LONG HAS THIS

02:44 - 06.460 CASE BEEN GOING ON.

02:44 - 09.450 THIS CORE THIS CASE WENT ON FOR

02:44 - 11.940 ABOUT 3 YEARS BEFORE THE DEAL.

02:44 - 12.840 OKAY.

02:44 - 19.460 >>CONTENT BASED I THINK ITS

02:44 - 21.580 CONTENT NEUTRAL. YOU

02:44 - 24.570 CAN GO TO THE LEGISLATURE HE

02:44 - 25.670 CAN GO TO THE TOP OF THE

02:44 - 27.930 MOUNTAIN. AND YOU CAN

02:44 - 30.530 SCREAM ABOUT PREJUDICE

02:44 - 32.590 AGAINST FATHERS FAVORITE ISN'T

02:44 - 34.110 FROM OTHERS, SPLITTING

02:44 - 36.520 HIS SIBLINGS, ABUSE OF

02:44 - 38.490 CHILDREN, ETCETERA THE ONLY

02:44 - 39.920 THING YOU CAN DO

02:44 - 42.240 IS TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC CASE

02:44 - 44.020 IN JUDGE CLARK SAID THE REASON

02:44 - 45.430 FOR THAT WAS SHE WAS TRYING TO

02:44 - 47.960 PROTECT THE CHILD. WHICH SEEMS

02:44 - 50.380 TO BE LEGIT HOW ARE YOUR FIRST

02:44 - 52.940 AMENDMENT RIGHTS CONSTRAINED IN

02:44 - 53.770 ANY WAY

02:44 - 55.430 GIVEN THE FREEDOM YOU HAVE TO

02:44 - 57.380 SPEAK ABOUT EVERYTHING EXCEPT

02:44 - 59.530 DO SOMETHING THAT IMPLICATES

02:44 - 00.390 THIS PORCH OUT.

02:45 - 02.770 >>WELL WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE

02:45 - 04.940 CASE THAT IS CONT HERE THERE

02:45 - 07.590 ARE 48,000 NOT CONTENT EXCUSE

02:45 - 08.510 ME AGAIN.

02:45 - 10.370 >>CONTENT IS SUBSTANCE.

02:45 - 13.200 WHAT CAN YOU NOT I DON'T WANT

02:45 - 14.290 TO FIGHT WITH YOU WHAT

02:45 - 16.920 SUBSTANCE. IN THIS AREA CAN YOU

02:45 - 18.110 NOT TALK ABOUT BECAUSE OF

02:45 - 18.760 THIS CONSTRAINT.

02:45 - 21.310 >>WELL YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT

02:45 - 22.960 WITH THE COURT IN THIS CASE

02:45 - 25.710 AGAIN WE'VE GOT WE HAVE 48,008

02:45 - 27.050 CUSTODY CASES IN THE

02:45 - 28.570 COMMONWEALTH EVERY YEAR.

02:45 - 30.900 >>THERE ARE THINGS I THINK I

02:45 - 32.550 THINK YOU CAN SERVE YOU SIMPLY

02:45 - 36.540 CAN'T NAME THIS CASE YOU ABOUT

02:45 - 38.350 ANY OF THESE 48,000 CASES.

02:45 - 39.210 I

02:45 - 40.000 FOR EXAMPLE.

02:45 - 42.670 >>IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A CHILD

02:45 - 43.980 IN MY SCHOOL WAS THE STAR

02:45 - 46.480 QUARTERBACK AND SO IT HAS TO BE

02:45 - 49.310 CHANGE AND BECAUSE OF THE PAST

02:45 - 52.520 MAY CHANGE. HE WON'T BE PLAYING

02:45 - 54.480 FOR THE STATE AND THE PTA AND

02:45 - 55.370 THE AND ITS

02:45 - 59.000 REPORTERS WANTED TO KNOW WHAT

02:45 - 00.210 WHERE WHAT HAPPENED TO

02:46 - 02.520 THIS PARTICULAR JOHN AND THE

02:46 - 04.530 REST ALL THAT IS TO RECORD

02:46 - 07.100 STATION HERE. JOHN'S MOTHER

02:46 - 09.360 FATHER, NOT BE ABLE TO TALK

02:46 - 09.780 ABOUT

02:46 - 11.350 WHAT HAPPENED. MY

02:46 - 17.840 PROMISING

02:46 - 21.020 A GRAY. GIRL GOING TO BE IN THE

02:46 - 21.570 SCIENCE

02:46 - 24.010 FAIR AND AND THIS YEAR LOGAN

02:46 - 26.060 BOARD TO HER CONDITION AND AND

02:46 - 27.590 SECONDLY BECAUSE THEY SAID IT

02:46 - 29.070 WAS DANGEROUS HE EVER DOES IT.

02:46 - 30.630 NOBODY CAN TALK ABOUT IT

02:46 - 32.570 IN EVERY CUSTODY CASE THE

02:46 - 34.340 ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE WITHOUT

02:46 - 36.050 EVIDENCE STACKED TALKING ABOUT

02:46 - 36.750 THE CASE

02:46 - 41.700 DISCUSSING THIS PARTICULAR IS

02:46 - 43.800 SOMEHOW AFFECTS THE JOB DONE IN

02:46 - 46.080 A WAY WHICH WE THAT WE LICENSE.

02:46 - 48.980 JEREMY IT

02:46 - 52.880 MIGHT BE. WELL AGAIN I AM LAST

02:46 - 53.910 LAST QUESTION THAT.

02:46 - 56.000 >>YOU DON'T SEE THE DISTINCTION

02:46 - 57.520 BETWEEN DISCUSSING.

02:46 - 00.620 THE THE BRIDE SUBJECTS FRANKLY

02:47 - 02.160 I THINK IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA TO

02:47 - 03.660 PORT QUARTERBACK IS NOT UNDER

02:47 - 04.580 THE PRESSURE OF THAT

02:47 - 07.130 PUBLIC NEWSPAPER BECAUSE OF HIS

02:47 - 09.120 PARENTS PROBLEMS. BUT YOU DON'T

02:47 - 10.320 SEE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN

02:47 - 13.370 DISCUSSING THAT ISSUE NOT

02:47 - 14.340 PERSONALIZING IT TO

02:47 - 14.780 THE CHILD.

02:47 - 17.430 >>WELL, THERE'S NO CONTEXT YOU

02:47 - 18.290 KNOW IT TOOK THIS

02:47 - 21.410 A BAD. AS THERE'S A PROBLEM IN

02:47 - 21.570 OUR

02:47 - 23.590 COURT SYSTEM AND YOU'RE ASKED

02:47 - 24.790 THE QUESTION WELL WHAT'S THE

02:47 - 27.390 EVIDENCE OF IT'S IT SEEMS MY

02:47 - 29.070 CASE, BUT I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT

02:47 - 30.120 OPENLY GAYLE.

02:47 - 32.550 I THINK THAT'S A VERY SERIOUS A

02:47 - 33.900 PROBLEM I UNDERSTAND YOUR

02:47 - 35.450 POSITION, THANKS TO YOU.

02:47 - 37.110 >>THANK YOU JUSTICE A.

02:47 - 38.610 >>THANK YOU CHIEF.

02:47 - 41.540 >>COUNCIL I'M CONCERNED I

02:47 - 44.160 CHARACTERIZATION ON SO THE

02:47 - 44.480 JUDGE

02:47 - 46.950 CLARK'S ORDER. YOU KNOW

02:47 - 48.400 INDICATED, I'M GOING TO GIVE

02:47 - 49.830 YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT

02:47 - 51.520 THIS IF I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU.

02:47 - 53.610 I THOUGHT YOU INDICATED THAT

02:47 - 54.970 THE GIST OF HOW.

02:47 - 57.650 ORDER HER MOST A SON IN ENTER

02:47 - 00.750 AN ORDER WAS OBVIOUSLY

02:48 - 04.020 TO PREVENT YOU. LONG YOU

02:48 - 05.920 INTEND THE YOUR CLIENTS

02:48 - 08.000 PREVIOUS COUNCIL FROM

02:48 - 11.110 CRITICIZING EACH. CLARK,

02:48 - 14.330 I'M READY. LATELY DIFFERENTLY.

02:48 - 15.050 I RAN

02:48 - 18.350 IT HAS AND YOU'RE AN OR TO

02:48 - 21.350 PROTECT A CHILD IN HER TENT,

02:48 - 22.510 PROTECT THE CHILD'S

02:48 - 26.020 IDENTITY WHICH IS A WORTHY ALL

02:48 - 27.790 THAT I BELIEVE EVERY JUSTICE ON

02:48 - 29.600 THIS COURT WOULD DORST TO SOME

02:48 - 31.930 EXTENT SO COULD YOU CLARIFY FOR

02:48 - 32.280 ME.

02:48 - 34.550 >>SAYING IT'S

02:48 - 37.220 THE FLAG. HER BIG CRITICISM OF

02:48 - 38.940 THE GARTER SO HE BURIED SORT OF

02:48 - 40.840 SAND AND THE RULING. I HAVE NO

02:48 - 41.320 PROBLEM

02:48 - 44.010 WITH IT. PEOPLE CRITICIZING ME

02:48 - 46.020 IS CRITICIZING THE DECISION IN

02:48 - 46.890 DALLAS IS

02:48 - 49.110 THE INCLUSION

02:48 - 51.460 THE RULING AND THAT'S WHAT THE

02:48 - 53.800 CRITICISM IS A WAS THEN KNOWN

02:48 - 55.320 BY TO TALK ABOUT THE CASE.

02:48 - 56.750 IT MAY HAVE BEEN BAD.

02:48 - 59.280 >>THIS IS WHERE DO YOU DRAW

02:48 - 01.730 THAT CONCLUSION THAT INTENDED

02:49 - 04.340 TO ORDER AS TO WHY. CHRIS IS.

02:49 - 05.580 >>THE

02:49 - 07.720 FACT THEY JUST ALL STARTS WHERE

02:49 - 09.190 NO ONE WOULD DISAGREE WITH THE

02:49 - 11.050 DECISION HE WAS GOING BACK TO

02:49 - 11.680 THE ISSUE OF THE

02:49 - 14.550 2008. IT SURE SHOULD IN WHICH

02:49 - 16.950 THE ONLY CASE OF THIS VERY

02:49 - 19.050 COURT DECIDED AND WHICH WAS

02:49 - 21.540 SIGNED BY THIS CASE IN 2006.

02:49 - 24.160 THAT CASE DID NOT INVOLVE

02:49 - 25.790 PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE CASE

02:49 - 28.570 IN IT. IT INVOLVED A PARENT

02:49 - 31.370 BE ABLE TO DISCUSS WITH

02:49 - 34.950 HIS DAUGHTER. WHAT WAS AND IS A

02:49 - 36.190 PALM HAS BEGUN.

02:49 - 39.250 IT MADE. FOR RELIGIOUS

02:49 - 41.510 PURPOSES. THIS COURT.

02:49 - 44.610 INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, EVEN

02:49 - 45.930 THOUGH THE SUPERIOR COURT.

02:49 - 49.820 IT NOT BULLIES CUSTOMER BEALE

02:49 - 51.810 BACKYARD, YEAR-OLD TELLS NAME

02:49 - 53.500 AND THEN THERE HAVE BEEN LARVAE

02:49 - 55.670 OR SAID ABOUT THAT CASE

02:49 - 57.790 DISCUSSED IN 2008.

02:49 - 00.920 THEN THE PARENTS WILL INTERVIEW

02:50 - 02.910 HARRIS DISCUSS THE CASE.

02:50 - 04.000 IT WAS

02:50 - 06.500 IT HAD A LOT OF BANKERS IN THE

02:50 - 08.250 MEDIA AND THE LEGAL COMMUNITY

02:50 - 09.790 BECAUSE OF THE IS.

02:50 - 15.930 SHE NEVER EXCUSE ME LET'S GET

02:50 - 17.470 BACK TO THIS CASE THOUGH.

02:50 - 19.030 >>IN THIS CASE ISN'T IT

02:50 - 20.830 POSSIBLE THAT JUDGE CLARK'S

02:50 - 23.880 LAYUP LIED TO YOU AND YOUR

02:50 - 25.970 CLIENT AND HER OTHER COUNCIL

02:50 - 27.860 BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE

02:50 - 30.720 SIDE AT RISK OF MENTIONING THE

02:50 - 33.520 CHILD'S NAME OR REVEALING HER

02:50 - 34.800 DON'T OCCASION.

02:50 - 37.740 >>WELL THAT THAT'S OUR STRENGTH

02:50 - 40.130 ON THING BASE AND JUST

02:50 - 43.270 ADDITIONAL AND AGAIN. IF THAT

02:50 - 44.240 WERE THE CASE.

02:50 - 47.320 THEN WHY DOESN'T IT APPLY

02:50 - 49.330 TO EVERYBODY IF YOU WEREN'T

02:50 - 51.160 BACK LOOK I DON'T WANT ANYBODY

02:50 - 53.170 TALKING ABOUT THIS AND I WANT

02:50 - 55.350 THIS TRIAL AND THE CHILD HAS A

02:50 - 57.720 DIFFERENT NAME AND THEIR LAST

02:50 - 00.710 NAME. SO YOU KNOW ONCE YOU

02:51 - 01.320 START

02:51 - 03.510 WHAT ENGLAND. THOSE SORTS

02:51 - 05.900 RESTRICTIONS ON A PAIR OF

02:51 - 07.150 ENDING TO A LOT

02:51 - 09.160 OF JOBS. I CAN MY FINDINGS

02:51 - 11.740 AND ONE WAY IS CHILD WHO WAS BY

02:51 - 13.950 HER SIDE IN MANY WAYS VERY DAY

02:51 - 15.410 AND WAS WELL KNOWN IN ANY

02:51 - 16.710 SUDDENLY DISAPPEARED FROM

02:51 - 17.180 A A.

02:51 - 19.510 >>THIS IS SHOULD IT YOUR

02:51 - 21.350 POSITION THAT YOU AND YOUR

02:51 - 23.880 CLIENT SHOULD BE FREE TO REVEAL

02:51 - 26.050 HER NAME REVEALED OUTS NATAN

02:51 - 27.880 WHENEVER YOU FLY AND HER AGAIN.

02:51 - 30.230 >>WELL THERE ARE

02:51 - 32.160 2 ISSUES HERE. WHETHER THAT'S A

02:51 - 33.600 GOOD THING TO DO AND THAT WAS

02:51 - 35.050 NEVER DONE IN

02:51 - 37.460 THE. BLISS CITY THAT

02:51 - 39.610 WAS GIVEN THIS CASE THE THINGS

02:51 - 41.630 THAT JUST ARE COOLER US TO TAKE

02:51 - 43.350 DOWN FROM THE IN THE END

02:51 - 43.870 ARE NONE.

02:51 - 47.290 >>REMOVED FROM GRANDMA.

02:51 - 50.060 >>BUT THE MINE.

02:51 - 53.370 >>SOCIAL MEDIA SITE. THE JOB I

02:51 - 55.580 EVER SEE THAT WAS NEVER

02:51 - 56.870 DONE SO THE

02:51 - 59.350 NOTION THAT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS

02:51 - 01.390 NEVER DONE IN THE PAST IT CAN

02:52 - 03.200 MAKE IN THE FUTURE WITH AN

02:52 - 05.450 ADDITIONAL LAYER WHO BUT

02:52 - 07.330 THE POINT THAT WE CAN'T EVEN

02:52 - 10.840 THIS CASE AND THEY IS IS A

02:52 - 12.990 WHOLLY UNFOUNDED NOBODY

02:52 - 15.880 MENTIONED THE THE BOTTOM OF

02:52 - 16.790 THAT VERY THIN.

02:52 - 19.390 IT BOTHERS HIM TURNING AND HIS

02:52 - 20.420 AND HER ON A GOOD

02:52 - 23.170 NOTE AND MAGIC MIKE SAYING WE

02:52 - 24.100 CAN'T MENTION THE

02:52 - 28.340 FATHER'S DAY. HAUNTS YOU.

02:52 - 31.070 >>THANK YOU WE HAVE A CROSSING

02:52 - 33.600 TO 5 MINUTES LEFT SO I WOULD

02:52 - 34.560 LIKE TO DIVIDE

02:52 - 37.580 THAT TIME. QUESTIONS BETWEEN

02:52 - 39.570 YES, THIS IS AN AUDIO JUSTICE

02:52 - 41.880 DAUGHERTY STARTING WITH JUSTICE

02:52 - 43.210 DONE HERE. THANK

02:52 - 43.720 YOU CHIEF.

02:52 - 47.050 >>I COUNSEL COULD I BE COULD

02:52 - 49.240 JUDGE CLARK AND SEAL THE RECORD

02:52 - 49.400 IN

02:52 - 51.380 THIS CASE. SHE KNEW AND SHE

02:52 - 56.110 DIDN'T YOU INTO US COULD SHE

02:52 - 57.020 HAVE DONE THAT.

02:52 - 01.870 OK AND IF SHE HAD DONE NOW WHEN

02:53 - 02.380 SHE NOT

02:53 - 04.880 HAVE ACCOMPLISHED MUCH OF WHAT

02:53 - 07.810 IS A ISSUE IN THE ORDER THAT HE

02:53 - 07.970 AND.

02:53 - 10.750 >>I

02:53 - 12.200 THINK IT'S A COMMON

02:53 - 13.770 MISPERCEPTION ABOUT WHAT I SEE

02:53 - 15.650 A WORK IT IS A SEAL RECORD ME

02:53 - 17.350 THAT THE PUBLIC CAN GO TO

02:53 - 20.100 THE ARTICLE OBAMACARE'S OFFICE

02:53 - 21.330 AND SAY I WANT TO SEE THIS

02:53 - 23.370 EXCESS PERSON THAT A PERSON'S

02:53 - 24.470 ASSETS RECORDED.

02:53 - 28.030 >>IS THAT YOU CAN GO TO BE

02:53 - 29.730 PROVIDED JERRY'S WEBSITE AND

02:53 - 31.730 PUBLISHED AND INFORMATION ON

02:53 - 32.330 A WEBSITE.

02:53 - 34.160 >>WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THAT THE

02:53 - 35.610 CASE CAN BE DISCUSSED.

02:53 - 37.420 AND THAT'S TO CRITICAL IT

02:53 - 39.190 DIDN'T YOU KNOW YOU'RE YOU'RE

02:53 - 40.680 NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION TO

02:53 - 42.950 THE EAST AND TO THE EXTENT.

02:53 - 44.590 >>AND SHE CAN ACCOMPLISH

02:53 - 47.420 PROHIBITING YOU A FRIEND.

02:53 - 48.250 I

02:53 - 50.760 REPLICATING INFORMATION ON THE

02:53 - 52.510 WEB SITE AND SHARING IT WITH

02:53 - 53.850 THE PUBLIC IF SHE COULD HAVE

02:53 - 55.170 DONE THAT WITH THE CEILING WERE

02:53 - 57.090 WHY CAN'T HE DO THAT WITH WITH

02:53 - 58.890 THIS ORDER SURE BECAUSE OF THE

02:53 - 59.960 RECORD IS SEALED

02:54 - 02.020 THAT DOESN'T. THERE HAVE BEEN

02:54 - 04.640 ANYBODY FROM SIMPLY TALKING

02:54 - 07.040 ABOUT. WHAT HAPPENED IN THE

02:54 - 08.550 COURTROOM. THERE'S A NEW

02:54 - 10.690 DOCUMENTS PERHAPS CAN'T THEY.

02:54 - 14.210 BLISTER TAPIA REPLICATED IN OR

02:54 - 15.660 CAN SEND IN AID AND IT DOESN'T

02:54 - 16.080 MEAN THAT.

02:54 - 18.280 >>BUT HE CAN'T TALK ABOUT.

02:54 - 19.800 WELL IT'S ALREADY OCCURRED.

02:54 - 23.130 >>I CAN JUST QUICKLY HIS

02:54 - 24.160 KNEECAP IT'S LIMITED.

02:54 - 26.370 HIS JUDGE JUDGE CLARK HAD THE

02:54 - 29.230 AUTHORITY, HE PLACED LIMITS ON

02:54 - 31.860 YOU AS AN ETERNITY INVOLVED IN

02:54 - 33.200 PENDING LITIGATION IN

02:54 - 34.980 HER COURTROOM. THAT ARE

02:54 - 37.130 DIFFERENT THAN I ANY

02:54 - 39.440 RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU PLACE AND

02:54 - 40.860 9 TURN

02:54 - 41.400 THE LAKE.

02:54 - 43.430 >>WHEN THERE'S NO ENGAGEMENT

02:54 - 44.950 PENDING THIS IS AT ALL AFTER

02:54 - 47.720 THE FACT SO I SAYS IT NOT.

02:54 - 50.080 WELL NOTHING TO DO IT BEST WHEN

02:54 - 51.720 THERE'S NOT A DAY AND THEN THE

02:54 - 53.860 I'M THAT

02:54 - 55.900 ANY OR IN THIS COUNTRY

02:54 - 57.760 HAS HAS SANCTIONED THE SORT OF

02:54 - 59.390 GAG ORDERS HAS BEEN.

02:55 - 03.000 AND TAKING A JURY IN A CRIMINAL

02:55 - 04.530 CASE. NO COURT

02:55 - 07.880 AND EVER SANCTIONED IN COURT

02:55 - 09.450 DECISIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY

02:55 - 11.360 WITH THESE SORT OF GAG ORDERS

02:55 - 12.200 AND THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN

02:55 - 14.000 DECLARED AND AS USUAL. IT'S NOT

02:55 - 14.950 BAD IN A HURRY.

02:55 - 21.450 IF YOU, YES IS DARKER, YOU HAVE

02:55 - 24.460 A QUESTIONS OR JUST A YES, JUST

02:55 - 26.080 A QUICK QUESTION. I'D LIKE

02:55 - 26.580 TO PICK.

02:55 - 28.770 >>FROM OR YOU JUST LEFT OFF

02:55 - 31.010 COUNCIL. THIS IS NOT A CRIMINAL

02:55 - 32.740 CASE, THIS IS A CUSTODY CASE IN

02:55 - 34.020 WHICH THE STANDARD THAT THE

02:55 - 35.270 BEST INTERESTS OF THE CHILD.

02:55 - 37.760 THE CHILD ALSO HAS AN

02:55 - 39.940 EXPECTATION TO THE RIGHT OF HIS

02:55 - 40.020 OR

02:55 - 43.360 HER PRIVACY NOT TO HAVE WORRIED

02:55 - 45.650 WERE DETAILS OF A AN ALLEGED

02:55 - 48.560 SEXUAL MISCONDUCT. LOOK FOR IN

02:55 - 49.680 ANY SHAPE OR WHAT

02:55 - 52.300 GREEN FOOD ISSUE BEFORE THIS

02:55 - 54.000 ALEC THE WAY THIS COURT.

02:55 - 55.870 THE MATTER BUT WOULD IDENTIFY

02:55 - 56.850 THE CHILD CHEER

02:55 - 59.230 WITH ME ARE YOU THINK YOUR

02:55 - 01.280 FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT AS WELL

02:56 - 02.780 AS YOUR PARTNERS

02:56 - 06.360 YOUR CLIENT SUPERSEDES THAT OF

02:56 - 08.900 A CHILD PRIVACY IN THESE

02:56 - 11.310 SPECIFIC CONTOURS OF A CUSTODY

02:56 - 11.770 CASE.

02:56 - 14.940 >>WELL FIRST LAW IS THIS ORDER

02:56 - 16.170 SIMPLY SAID.

02:56 - 20.570 IN THE DISCUSSION OF.

02:56 - 22.750 THIS CASE.

02:56 - 26.190 THE CHILD'S NAME JOE NOT THE

02:56 - 28.270 WORD DEAL. AND YOU HAVE A

02:56 - 30.010 DIFFERENT CASE. BUT THAT'S NOT

02:56 - 31.670 WHAT THIS CAN ORDER SAYS IT

02:56 - 33.610 SAID DEFENDANT ASSETS.

02:56 - 36.860 RICHARD CODEY IN VICTORIA MAC

02:56 - 38.930 AND PARKS WILL NOT SPEAK

02:56 - 41.550 PUBLICLY OR COMMUNICATE ABOUT

02:56 - 43.850 THIS CASE. NOW IT'S NOT

02:56 - 46.630 BEEN CLEARER. IN THAT GAG ORDER

02:56 - 48.380 THAT SAYS THAT WE

02:56 - 50.380 CANNOT TALK ABOUT THIS CASE AND

02:56 - 52.060 WE CAN ENCOURAGE OTHER PEOPLE

02:56 - 54.460 TO EVEN FIND OUT ABOUT THE CASE

02:56 - 58.030 MAY I MY QUESTION IS

02:56 - 58.840 VERY PERCENT.

02:56 - 00.800 >>HE SHOULD HAVE CUSTODY CASES

02:57 - 02.180 THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CHILD

02:57 - 03.750 AND THE CHILD FOR THE PRIVACY.

02:57 - 06.110 WE SHARE WITH YOU WALK OR USE

02:57 - 07.860 YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT THAT

02:57 - 09.370 WRONG THE CHILD'S RIGHT TO

02:57 - 11.680 PRIVACY IN THE DETERMINATION OF

02:57 - 12.810 ITS BEST INTEREST.

02:57 - 14.280 >>SO SO

02:57 - 16.730 UNDER THAT I THINK THAT THE

02:57 - 18.120 QUESTION OF PROPHETIC UL SAID

02:57 - 20.620 THAT'S RIGHT, BUT I JUST AN OK

02:57 - 22.470 SO NECK AND BACK

02:57 - 25.340 INCINERATION THERE COULD BE A

02:57 - 27.240 GAG ORDER FOR ANY PARENT

02:57 - 29.120 TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING TO DO

02:57 - 30.400 WITH THEIR JOB. HE COULDN'T.

02:57 - 33.600 TELL OTHER PARENTS YOU CAN

02:57 - 34.880 SHARE WITH OTHER PARENTS THAT

02:57 - 36.770 YEAR, YOUR CHILD HAS A MEDICAL

02:57 - 38.160 CONDITION BECAUSE THAT'S HOW

02:57 - 38.630 HAS THE RIGHT

02:57 - 41.510 TO PRIVACY. COUNCIL I WOULD I

02:57 - 42.960 APOLOGIZE I WOULD BE MORE

02:57 - 44.400 SPECIFIC AS TO SAY THIS GAG

02:57 - 45.750 ORDER WAS RELATED TO COME UP

02:57 - 46.290 MISTAKEN.

02:57 - 48.400 >>2 ANNOUNCEMENTS IN STATEMENTS

02:57 - 50.600 MADE THE AIR PUBLIC MEDIA AND

02:57 - 51.670 ON TV STATIONS,

02:57 - 53.540 SOMETHING THAT IS NOT NORMALLY

02:57 - 55.680 OCCUR IN SOME OF THE 4,000

02:57 - 56.960 CUSTODY CASE THAT ARE FILED

02:57 - 58.260 WITH IN THIS COMMONWEALTH AS

02:57 - 01.390 YOU INDICATED SPECIFIC AS TO

02:58 - 03.420 YOUR CONDUCT. THE CONDUCT OF

02:58 - 06.110 YOUR CLIENT. SO THIS IS AGAIN

02:58 - 07.620 WITH REGARD TO THE CASE BUT

02:58 - 09.330 WITH THIS COURT WHICH IS WHAT

02:58 - 10.840 NEW YORK LINE AND YOU'RE

02:58 - 12.740 ASSOCIATE IT PUBLICLY

02:58 - 15.340 IN ANNOUNCING THE FITBIT TORCH

02:58 - 17.810 CHRIS FACTS OF THIS WHICH

02:58 - 19.590 LASTED IN A 23 DAY TRIAL.

02:58 - 21.790 HERE WITH ME WHERE THAT CHILD'S

02:58 - 24.110 RIGHT TO PRIVACY IS SUPERSEDED

02:58 - 25.680 BY YOUR RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT

02:58 - 26.900 THEIR CHILD I LIKE.

02:58 - 29.620 >>BECAUSE INTUITION OF THE

02:58 - 32.540 COMMONWEALTH IN THE FIRST THE

02:58 - 33.410 UNITED STATES OF

02:58 - 34.880 AMERICA'S CONSTITUTION.

02:58 - 36.070 >>AND THEY COME BACK AND THE

02:58 - 38.110 CHILD'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO

02:58 - 39.220 PRIVACY WHICH IS OF

02:58 - 41.780 PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE. 6 TAKES A

02:58 - 43.300 SECOND SEAT TO YOUR

02:58 - 45.320 RIGHT TO SPEAK HIS JOB, IT'S A

02:58 - 47.030 YES OR NO RIGHT TO KNOW YOUR

02:58 - 48.690 ARMY THAT THAT HOUSE HARD TO

02:58 - 49.880 TELL THE NAME WAS NEVER

02:58 - 51.390 DISCLOSED IN ANY UGLY.

02:58 - 54.320 THE DISCUSSION THAT RESULTED IN

02:58 - 58.090 THE GANG ARE IT'S MY NAME AND

02:58 - 59.030 MY WIFE'S NAME,

02:58 - 00.250 A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WOULD

02:59 - 02.130 UNDERSTAND WHO MY CHILDREN ARE

02:59 - 05.340 WHO WORK WELL IF WE TAKE THIS.

02:59 - 07.220 NBN

02:59 - 10.460 YOUR CONCERN AND THEY DON'T GET

02:59 - 12.970 A CARD WILL ENSUE EVERY CHOPPER

02:59 - 15.540 SAYING NO PARENT IN TALKING ALL

02:59 - 15.900 ABOUT

02:59 - 16.440 THE JOB.

02:59 - 19.490 >>YOU KNOW SUICIDE.

02:59 - 21.780 >>YOU MIGHT BE MEASURED ECONOMY

02:59 - 24.260 ON PUBLIC TV. THANK YOU PATTY.

02:59 - 26.130 >>YEAH, IT IT I

02:59 - 28.210 MISS YOU I THINK SHE'S SO WE'RE

02:59 - 29.220 GOING TO HEAR FROM A.

02:59 - 32.770 MISS PRIDE COUNSEL FOR THE APP

02:59 - 33.280 ONLY.

02:59 - 38.090 >>AND PLEASE

02:59 - 40.510 THE COURT. ELIZABETH PRIDE ON

02:59 - 43.190 BEHALF OF S B. AND YOU'LL HEAR

02:59 - 43.570 ME.

02:59 - 47.670 >>THIS QUESTION

02:59 - 49.290 ARISES IN THE CONTEXT OF AN

02:59 - 51.820 EXTRAORDINARY CASE IN WHICH ONE

02:59 - 53.620 PARTY IS LITIGATED EXCESSIVELY

02:59 - 54.580 AND EVERY LEVEL IN

02:59 - 56.950 STATE COURT IN MATTERS AND

02:59 - 58.320 MATTERS UNRELATED MATTER TO

02:59 - 00.170 BOTH CUSTODY AND CHILD SUPPORT

03:00 - 01.790 IN BOTH THE STATE AND FEDERAL

03:00 - 03.510 COURTS. MILLIONS HAVE BEEN

03:00 - 04.740 SPENT ON LITIGATION IN THIS

03:00 - 23.530 WORK OF LITIGATING IN

03:00 - 25.100 MISREPRESENTING THE VOLUMINOUS

03:00 - 28.610 AMPLY DEMONSTRATES THE ABUSER

03:00 - 29.900 IN THIS CASE IS NOT THE CHILD

03:00 - 31.940 THE APPELLANT IT WAS

03:00 - 34.360 INDIFFERENCE TO HER SON'S

03:00 - 38.080 ATTENTION WHICH IS CAUSED THE

03:00 - 40.140 TRIAL COURT TO STEP IN AGAIN TO

03:00 - 43.820 THIS IS A QUESTION OF WHETHER

03:00 - 46.560 JUDGE ENGLAND ANOTHER SPEECH

03:00 - 49.290 HARMFUL AND ARE DANGERS TO THE

03:00 - 52.790 IN AN ARGUMENT RIFE WITH HYPER

03:00 - 55.710 STATION MOTHER SAYS THAT THE

03:00 - 58.600 OTHERS ARE ADAMANT BOILS DOWN

03:01 - 01.320 DEAL OF DEFERENCE AND

03:01 - 04.880 FREEDOM SPEECH TO ANY SPEECH ON

03:01 - 09.070 STRICT SCRUTINY STANDARD

03:01 - 12.560 PROVIDE A LEGAL OR FACTUAL

03:01 - 14.220 JUSTIFICATION FOR THE RESTRAINT

03:01 - 16.330 AND THAT THE ORDER IS NOT

03:01 - 17.700 NARROWLY TAILORED TO SERVE A

03:01 - 21.810 THAT THE ORDER WAS MADE IN OVER

03:01 - 25.590 THINKERS RESULTS.

03:01 - 29.400 THESE THE COURT WAS A GREAT

03:01 - 31.500 PROTECTIONS TO THE FREEDOM

03:01 - 35.150 MORE PAGES AND CITATIONS

03:01 - 36.360 DOCUMENTING THIS IN HER

03:01 - 39.340 THERE'S CERTAINLY NO DISPUTE

03:01 - 42.020 WELL THE TRIAL COURT AND THE

03:01 - 43.720 SUPERIOR COURT WERE EXPLICITLY

03:01 - 47.700 NO RIGHT EVEN A FUNDAMENTAL

03:01 - 50.180 ISN'T CONDITION. THERE'S AN

03:01 - 51.860 BREEZE ACKNOWLEDGES THIS EVEN

03:01 - 55.190 THE QUESTION IS

03:01 - 58.660 TRIAL COURT IN THIS CASE PLACE

03:02 - 01.980 SPEAK ABOUT IT AND DO THOSE

03:02 - 04.760 EXIST HERE. MOTHER DOES NOT

03:02 - 06.260 ADDRESS THAT QUESTION IN HER

03:02 - 10.040 INSTEAD SHE STATES AND RESTATE

03:02 - 13.170 TO SPEAK CANNOT BE LIMITED AT

03:02 - 16.200 A THRESHOLD QUESTION IS CASES

03:02 - 18.520 PLACED IN THE TRIAL

03:02 - 22.220 STRICT SCRUTINY OF CLASS

03:02 - 25.590 CONTENT BASED IN GETTING TO

03:02 - 28.530 THIS THE UNITED STATES SUPREME

03:02 - 31.660 THAT TERM. INSTEAD OF REASONS

03:02 - 34.790 TO DEPENDS ENTIRELY ON THE

03:02 - 38.600 CUSTODY CASE THERE'S NO

03:02 - 40.020 QUESTION THAT IT CONSTITUTES A

03:02 - 44.370 SPEECH IT'S AN HERB RECENT 14.

03:02 - 49.520 PERRY FOR.

03:02 - 54.970 NOTE THE SHOW.

03:02 - 00.710 PURSUE THAT QUESTION MARKS THAT

03:03 - 04.430 >>THANK YOU CHIEF GOOD

03:03 - 08.290 QUESTION UP.

03:03 - 12.730 COURT'S INTENTIONS THAT

03:03 - 15.050 BE AN

03:03 - 19.760 MOTIVATED SO TO NOR DOES IT.

03:03 - 23.880 SEEM

03:03 - 28.610 STIPULATE IT'S BEEN SOME

03:03 - 31.740 THE ISSUE I THINK THAT'S

03:03 - 34.480 ADDRESS AND I'D LIKE YOU TO

03:03 - 39.390 OF OVER BREATHS

03:03 - 43.300 COMMENT ON OVER BREATH OVER

03:03 - 47.360 IT IS THAT WHEN WE DECIDE THIS

03:03 - 50.070 OUR DECISION WILL HAVE

03:03 - 54.860 ALL CUSTODY, CASES AND BEYOND

03:03 - 57.370 OF CUSTODY AND NOT JUST THIS

03:03 - 01.000 RESPONSIBLY AND THE TRIAL COURT

03:04 - 05.740 MEAN THE QUESTION IS IF WE.

03:04 - 11.530 WHAT IS TO SAY THAT

03:04 - 13.060 IT WON'T BE THE DEFAULT

03:04 - 15.040 MECHANISM IN EVERY ACRIMONIOUS

03:04 - 17.060 CUSTODY. CASE WHICH IS

03:04 - 19.590 QUITE FREQUENT THAT THE TRIAL

03:04 - 20.860 COURT IN JUST UNDER AN ORDER

03:04 - 21.900 SAYING MOTHER AND

03:04 - 23.760 HER COUNSEL SHE WILL NOT SPEAK

03:04 - 25.460 PUBLICLY OR COMMUNICATE ABOUT

03:04 - 27.580 THIS CASE, INCLUDING BUT NOT

03:04 - 29.090 LIMITED TO ET CETERA ET CETERA,

03:04 - 30.530 PARTICULARLY IN THE DAY OF

03:04 - 32.780 SOCIAL MEDIA. SHOULD WE BE

03:04 - 34.110 TROUBLED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT

03:04 - 35.510 IMPLICATIONS OF THAT.

03:04 - 38.660 >>AND THE QUESTION

03:04 - 40.410 OF OVER BRETT I THINK GOES TO

03:04 - 43.070 WHETHER OR NOT THE ORDER WAS

03:04 - 44.560 TOM NARROWLY TAILORED TO

03:04 - 46.150 ACCOMPLISH ANY IMPORTANT

03:04 - 48.130 GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST. IN THIS

03:04 - 49.900 CASE, THE JUDGE COULD NOT HAVE

03:04 - 51.180 BEEN MORE CLEAR THAT THIS WAS

03:04 - 52.700 ABOUT THE CHILD NOT ABOUT THE

03:04 - 54.880 MESSAGE. THE JUDGE'S ORDER WAS

03:04 - 56.530 ACCOMPANIED BY 19 FACTUAL

03:04 - 57.920 FINDINGS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL

03:04 - 58.870 HARM TO THE CHILD.

03:04 - 01.400 AND THE AND

03:05 - 04.970 THE ORDER STATES THAT AT THE

03:05 - 06.210 CONCLUSION OF THE ORDER AND

03:05 - 07.820 STATES WHAT IT WAS NOT MEANT

03:05 - 10.050 TO DO. THIS ORDER DOES NOT

03:05 - 12.010 PROHIBIT ANY PARTY OR COUNCIL

03:05 - 13.510 FROM PUBLICLY SPEAKING

03:05 - 15.290 EXPRESSING AN OPINION ABOUT THE

03:05 - 17.420 JUDGE INCLUDING DISCLOSING THE

03:05 - 19.000 ENTRY OF THIS ORDER OF COURT.

03:05 - 20.970 AFTER THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN

03:05 - 21.850 REMOVED AS SET

03:05 - 23.600 FORTH BY HOWEVER SUCH

03:05 - 25.190 EXPRESSION SHALL NOT IN ANY

03:05 - 25.550 NAME OF

03:05 - 27.500 THE CHILD OR OTHER INFORMATION

03:05 - 28.750 WHICH WOULD TEND TO IDENTIFY

03:05 - 31.200 THE CHILD. THE QUESTION OF OVER

03:05 - 33.250 BREAST. IF THE QUESTION IS

03:05 - 34.850 WHETHER THIS ORDER.

03:05 - 38.260 >>PRECLUDES TOO

03:05 - 40.140 MUCH SPEECH. I THINK THE COURT

03:05 - 41.830 MADE IT VERY CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT

03:05 - 43.280 IT WAS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH

03:05 - 45.090 WAS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH SPEECH

03:05 - 46.350 THAT WOULD I THAT MIGHT

03:05 - 46.960 IDENTIFY

03:05 - 50.350 THIS CHILD. EXPOSE THIS CHILD

03:05 - 52.210 TO UNDO RIDICULES FOREIGN

03:05 - 56.230 SCRUTINY AND AS THE SUPERIOR

03:05 - 58.900 COURT SAID. CLOSE AND WHETHER

03:05 - 00.580 AN ORDER IS OVERRIDE IS WHETHER

03:06 - 01.790 OR NOT A PERSON OF ORDINARY

03:06 - 03.150 INTELLIGENCE CAN UNDERSTAND

03:06 - 04.420 WHAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE

03:06 - 04.810 DOING.

03:06 - 06.600 >>ONE OF THOSE THINGS UP IF I

03:06 - 08.020 MAY USE BRIEFLY BECAUSE MY TIME

03:06 - 08.940 IS SHORT.

03:06 - 12.670 ORDERING A PARENT IN THIS CASE

03:06 - 15.540 MOTHER. NOT TO PUBLICLY STATE

03:06 - 18.560 HER NAME. THAT'S QUITE

03:06 - 21.710 A STARK. FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE

03:06 - 22.120 ISN'T IT.

03:06 - 24.990 >>THE REASON THAT MOTHER WAS

03:06 - 27.570 ASKED TO PUSH IT REASONS I I

03:06 - 29.210 DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO

03:06 - 31.200 QUESTION THE JUDGES REASONS HER

03:06 - 32.950 REASONS OR NOT THAT

03:06 - 35.140 I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS SHE'S AN

03:06 - 37.430 EVIL GENIUS TRYING TO STAMP OUT

03:06 - 38.610 FREE SPEECH IN THIS COUNTRY.

03:06 - 41.800 THE ISSUE IS WHAT WAS DONE NOT

03:06 - 43.050 THE INTENTION BEHIND IT.

03:06 - 45.430 AND HOW IS IT THAT SAYING A

03:06 - 47.190 PARENT. A PERSON

03:06 - 48.920 CAN'T PUBLICLY STATE THEIR NAME

03:06 - 50.220 IS NOT OVER BROAD FIRST

03:06 - 51.190 AMENDMENT PURPOSE.

03:06 - 53.220 >>BECAUSE OF THE QUESTION

03:06 - 56.410 RELATES TO WHETHER WHETHER THE

03:06 - 58.110 JUDGE'S ORDER WAS

03:06 - 59.940 NARROWLY TAILORED TO ACCOMPLISH

03:06 - 00.830 WHAT YOU SET OUT

03:07 - 02.590 TO ACCOMPLISH ASSUMING THAT

03:07 - 04.110 THAT WAS A PERMISSIBLE SANCTION

03:07 - 06.150 FOR HER TO BE TRYING TO DO IN

03:07 - 09.230 THIS CASE. GIVEN THE NATURE OF

03:07 - 11.570 THE COMMUNICATION. IF SHE

03:07 - 13.190 IDENTIFY AND THE NATURE OF THE

03:07 - 15.050 FACTS OF THE CASE THERE ARE

03:07 - 16.870 HAVING IDENTIFIED HERSELF

03:07 - 18.810 MADE IT TIED THE CHILD TO THE

03:07 - 20.710 INFORMATION THE SALACIOUS AND

03:07 - 22.400 DISTURBING INFORMATION. THE

03:07 - 23.750 MOTHER WAS DISSEMINATING

03:07 - 25.650 SO IT'S NOT A QUESTION NOBODY

03:07 - 27.420 IS SAYING MOM CAN'T GO SAY

03:07 - 27.770 SHE'S IN

03:07 - 30.180 HER NAME IS YOU KNOW USE HER

03:07 - 32.250 NAME IN SAYING THAT SHE IS PART

03:07 - 34.270 OF A CUSTODY CASE. SHE CAN'T GO

03:07 - 36.050 OUT THERE AND SAY THIS IS MY

03:07 - 37.960 NAME AND THESE ARE THE THINGS

03:07 - 40.160 THAT MY SON SAID, AND THIS IS

03:07 - 43.690 THIS IS FORENSIC EVALUATION AND

03:07 - 45.000 HAVE ALL THAT STUFF POSTED

03:07 - 47.590 ONLINE. THESE WERE THIS ISN'T A

03:07 - 49.930 BLACK TANKING INVASION OF THIS

03:07 - 51.110 CHILD'S PRIVACY

03:07 - 52.540 AND THE THING THAT MAKES IT AN

03:07 - 54.080 INVASION OF THIS CHILD'S

03:07 - 56.300 PRIVACY, THE IDENTIFICATION OF

03:07 - 57.170 THIS CHILD

03:07 - 00.300 MOTHERS IDENTIFICATION OF

03:08 - 02.410 HERSELF. IN THAT HE IS ONLY ONE

03:08 - 04.540 CHILD IN THE FACT

03:08 - 07.440 THAT SHE SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL

03:08 - 08.760 IN GETTING THIS CHILD AND HIS

03:08 - 10.120 SMALL PRIVATE SCHOOL WHERE

03:08 - 12.010 EVERYONE KNOWS WHO SHE IS YOU

03:08 - 15.160 HEAR IS. HER USING HER OWN NAME

03:08 - 17.320 IN CONNECTING TO THIS

03:08 - 19.510 SPECIFIC INFORMATION THAT

03:08 - 21.220 INDICATES THE CHILD'S PRIVACY

03:08 - 24.470 IS NECESSARY. I AS A PART OF

03:08 - 24.540 THE

03:08 - 27.240 NARROWLY TAILORED RESOLUTION TO

03:08 - 28.340 THE ISSUE THAT THE COURT WAS

03:08 - 29.370 TRYING TO ADDRESS.

03:08 - 32.560 >>THIS IS MONEY.

03:08 - 37.700 NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU JUST

03:08 - 40.860 DESPAIR. PREMISED UPON YOUR.

03:08 - 43.640 DESCRIPTION IN RESPONSE TO

03:08 - 45.080 JUSTICE WEX IS

03:08 - 47.740 THIS CASE SUE INJURES 2 TERMS

03:08 - 48.980 IN IT IT OF.

03:08 - 50.200 >>THE.

03:08 - 54.410 >>ACTIONS TAKEN BY A MOTHER AND

03:08 - 57.200 HER COUNSEL WHICH REQUIRED

03:08 - 58.330 THE COURT TO

03:08 - 00.430 PROVIDE RESPONSE OR IS IT

03:09 - 01.940 UNFAIR WAY SHES THIS WORK

03:09 - 02.580 SUGGESTS THAT

03:09 - 05.760 THIS THIS. IT IN DANGER OF

03:09 - 07.400 BEING REPLICATED EVERY CUSTODY

03:09 - 07.850 CASE.

03:09 - 08.870 >>THIS IS AN

03:09 - 10.510 EXTRAORDINARY CASE.

03:09 - 13.940 >>THIS CASE MET ONE OF THE

03:09 - 14.730 THINGS AND FATHER

03:09 - 15.930 SUGGESTED HERE.

03:09 - 17.940 >>WHAT IS IT THAT THIS COURT

03:09 - 19.430 ORDER CHILLS OTHER FROM SIMILAR

03:09 - 21.000 CONDUCT AND I THINK THAT THAT

03:09 - 23.100 QUESTION ALSO RELATES TO

03:09 - 25.220 WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT

03:09 - 26.570 COURTS MAY TAKE AS AN

03:09 - 30.500 OPPORTUNITY IMPOSE IN SIMILAR

03:09 - 33.150 KINDS OF RESTRAINTS ON SPEECH

03:09 - 34.360 IN OTHER CASES.

03:09 - 36.340 LET'S REVIEW WHAT HAPPENED IN

03:09 - 39.010 THIS CASE AFTER A 23 DAY TRIAL

03:09 - 40.290 IN WHICH TESTIFYING 3

03:09 - 41.730 PSYCHOLOGICAL EXPERTS IN A

03:09 - 43.910 GARDEN HEADLIGHTS RESULTS OF 2

03:09 - 45.200 FRIENDS UNITED NATIONS WERE

03:09 - 47.270 SUBMITTED. MOTHER CONTINUALLY

03:09 - 48.400 RAISE ESCALATING AND

03:09 - 50.610 FORTUITOUSLY TIMED CLAIMS THE

03:09 - 52.410 CHILD HAD BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED.

03:09 - 53.540 AND THE COURT FOUND THAT THERE

03:09 - 54.630 HAD BEEN NO THESE BY THE

03:09 - 56.080 FATHER, BUT THAT THE BEST

03:09 - 57.610 INTEREST WOULD BE SERVED BY

03:09 - 59.210 BEING PLAYED IN PLACE AND

03:09 - 01.940 FATHER SO LEGAL INS THIS

03:10 - 04.520 CUSTODY AND FROM THAT 23 DAYS

03:10 - 05.930 OF TRIAL MOTHER SELECTED A

03:10 - 07.010 SHORT EXCERPT OF THE

03:10 - 08.720 CHILD'S TESTIMONY AND THE

03:10 - 10.170 CHILD'S SECOND FORENSIC

03:10 - 11.840 INTERVIEW SHE DESCRIBED WHAT HE

03:10 - 12.550 SAID WAS ABUSED

03:10 - 15.850 BY FATHER. UNDERSTAND THAT WE

03:10 - 17.180 BECAUSE AGAIN OUR TIME IS

03:10 - 17.800 SHORT HERE.

03:10 - 21.430 >>IT THE DRAFT CARD CASE IN THE

03:10 - 22.370 U.S. SUPREME COURT I THINK

03:10 - 25.630 BRIAN YES, THE BRYANT. IT SET

03:10 - 26.410 FORTH A

03:10 - 30.240 FOUR-PART TEST. IS IF INDEED

03:10 - 32.480 THE CONTENT IT IS THE SPEECHES

03:10 - 33.970 CONTENT NEUTRAL IS THAT

03:10 - 35.200 APPLICABLE TO THIS CASE.

03:10 - 37.160 >>I THINK IT IS THE SUPERIOR

03:10 - 39.370 COURT. I BELIEVE INCLUDED THAT

03:10 - 41.140 THE HIRES STRICT STANDARD.

03:10 - 43.640 I WAS MET BY THIS CASE, BUT AT

03:10 - 44.720 THE SAME TIME.

03:10 - 46.340 I DIDN'T REACH THE O'BRIEN

03:10 - 47.670 FACTORS BECAUSE THE HIGHER

03:10 - 49.210 STANDARD OF STRICT SCRUTINY HAD

03:10 - 50.130 ALREADY BEEN MET.

03:10 - 51.670 HOWEVER, AS YOU LOOK AT THE

03:10 - 53.340 STANDARDS OF STRICT SCRUTINY.

03:10 - 55.490 IT'S A LOWER STANDARD. I DO

03:10 - 56.180 BELIEVE THAT IT

03:10 - 57.980 THAT IT APPLIES IN THIS CASE

03:10 - 59.980 BECAUSE THIS IS CONTENT NEUTRAL

03:10 - 01.880 SPEECH. THIS ISN'T ABOUT

03:11 - 04.670 WHETHER OR NOT AGREES WITH US

03:11 - 06.250 WHETHER OR NOT THE COURT OR THE

03:11 - 08.010 GOVERNMENT AGREES WITH WHAT

03:11 - 09.640 MOTHER IS SAYING THIS IS ABOUT

03:11 - 10.880 PROTECTING THE INTERESTS OF

03:11 - 12.380 THESE CHILDREN IN MY IN CHIEF

03:11 - 13.480 MY LAST QUESTION.

03:11 - 16.210 IF WE FIND THAT THIS IS

03:11 - 17.530 CONTENT NEUTRAL.

03:11 - 19.150 >>IS IT THEN FOLLOW THAT IT'S

03:11 - 20.210 NOT STRICT SCRUTINY.

03:11 - 22.890 >>I

03:11 - 25.180 MEAN IN IF WE FIND THAT THIS IS

03:11 - 26.970 CONTENT NEUTRAL. YES I AGREE

03:11 - 28.350 THAT IF WE FIND THAT IT'S NOT

03:11 - 30.150 STATES SCRUTINY. I THINK IN

03:11 - 31.690 THIS CASE, IT MEETS THE STRICT

03:11 - 32.800 SCRUTINY STANDARD.

03:11 - 34.290 BUT THE COURT SHOULD IMPOSE A

03:11 - 35.890 LOWER STANDARD FOR A CASE LIKE

03:11 - 36.280 THIS.

03:11 - 38.540 >>THANK YOU. THANK YOU JUSTICE

03:11 - 39.070 TIDES.

03:11 - 43.590 NO

03:11 - 46.110 QUESTIONS TOO. THANK YOU.

03:11 - 49.290 JUSTICE DONE HERE. I CAN SPEAK

03:11 - 51.060 THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JUSTICE

03:11 - 52.730 STAR KOREAN WILL CONCLUDE.

03:11 - 54.360 NO QUESTION CHIEF

03:11 - 57.950 THANK YOU OK THANK FRIDAY A

03:11 - 00.810 WORD GAME. ALTHOUGH PLEASE

03:12 - 04.070 BELIEVE WE UNDERSTAND THAT

03:12 - 04.630 ARGUMENT.

03:12 - 09.070 >>I AM TEMPTED TO SAY MORE YOUR

03:12 - 10.880 HONOR BUT I THINK I'M WELL.

03:12 - 12.450 >>REST OF MY LAURELS

03:12 - 17.170 ACTUALLY GOT IT, I'M SURE WE'RE

03:12 - 17.710 ALL OUT.

03:12 - 23.610 RESUME ARGUED THE FINAL CASE TO

03:12 - 24.290 THE DAY.

03:12 - 30.620 >>FOR OVER

03:12 - 32.850 35 YEARS THE EMMY AWARD-WINNING

03:12 - 34.440 WHETHER WORLD HAS PROVIDED IN

03:12 - 36.130 DEATHS STATEWIDE FORECAST THAT

03:12 - 37.710 YOU WON'T FIND ANYWHERE ELSE

03:12 - 39.010 WHETHER WORLD GIVES YOU MORE

03:12 - 40.140 THAN JUST TOMORROW'S WEATHER.

03:12 - 42.240 THEY OFFER LONG-RANGE FORECASTS

03:12 - 44.070 AND UNIQUE CONTENT THAT ANSWERS

03:12 - 45.800 TO WHY AS WELL AS THE WHAT

03:12 - 47.850 WHEN HOW WEATHER WILL AFFECT

03:12 - 50.000 YOUR LIFE. WHETHER WORLD FROM

03:12 - 51.290 THE PENN STATE DEPARTMENT OF

03:12 - 52.760 METEOROLOGY AND ATMOSPHERIC

03:12 - 55.460 SCIENCE WEEKDAYS AT 5.45 AND

03:12 - 57.340 AVAILABLE FOR FREE ON THE PCN

03:12 - 57.580 APP.

03:13 - 03.520 >>NEVER GIVE IS IN RE IS

03:13 - 05.620 STATING OF WHOM CAME BACK CLEAR

03:13 - 07.840 AND IN APPELLANT IS EVIE JAY

03:13 - 10.300 DEL SOL REPRESENTATIVE KELLY IS

03:13 - 11.150 ARNOLD KAPLAN.

03:13 - 14.210 A GOOD

03:13 - 17.970 HOW LONG IS THE TRUSTEE OF A

03:13 - 19.830 REVOCABLE LIVING TRUST CREATED

03:13 - 21.630 TO BENEFIT HIM IN A POLICE.

03:13 - 24.440 >>POLICE TO CHALLENGE CERTAIN

03:13 - 25.980 ASPECTS OF THE ADMINISTRATION

03:13 - 26.790 OF THE TRUST.

03:13 - 29.400 PROMPTING THE APPELLANT RETAIN

03:13 - 31.130 THE SERVICE SHE HAS TO OFFER.

03:13 - 33.600 IN RESPONSE THE SESSION WITH

03:13 - 37.130 DISCOVERY REQUEST RELATED TO

03:13 - 39.700 THE FIRM'S CALLAN PROVIDED

03:13 - 41.960 SIGNIFICANTLY REDACTED COPIES

03:13 - 43.400 THE ATTORNEYS INVOICES.

03:13 - 44.640 THE

03:13 - 47.070 TRIAL COURT AND DIRECTED A

03:13 - 48.850 PALLET OF FORWARD UNREDACTED

03:13 - 51.580 INVOICES. AND A TALENT APPEALED

03:13 - 54.040 CLAIMING THAT TRY THE CLIENT

03:13 - 56.620 AND WORK PRODUCT, RELIGION.

03:13 - 58.940 SPIRIT COURT COURSE, THE

03:13 - 01.390 APPEAL. INCLUDING AN APOLOGY

03:14 - 03.120 NOT IN NOT OFFER FACTUAL

03:14 - 06.280 SUPPORT FREEZE CLAIMS. ALLEN IS

03:14 - 08.710 CHALLENGING THOSE TERMINATIONS

03:14 - 10.510 YOU KNOW SO.

03:14 - 17.070 THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE TAYLOR.

03:14 - 18.750 I MEAN PLEASE THE COURT STEPHEN

03:14 - 20.670 NO SOUL FOR PALIN

03:14 - 23.230 WILLIAM MCALEER I'M MINDFUL OF

03:14 - 24.740 THE. TIME

03:14 - 28.770 >>GIVEN THAT TO HAPPEN DIES OF

03:14 - 30.450 ARGUMENT, SO I JUST DON'T WANT

03:14 - 31.610 TO GIVE A VERY BRIEF.

03:14 - 34.540 GENERAL OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE

03:14 - 35.950 SIGNIFICANT BACKGROUND THAT I

03:14 - 37.700 THINK HELPS PUT IN CONTEXT.

03:14 - 40.520 THE IMPORTANCE OF ON PROTECTING

03:14 - 41.280 THE ATTORNEY TO CLIENT

03:14 - 43.760 PRIVILEGE IN THE WORK PRODUCT.

03:14 - 45.700 I'M CIRCUMSTANCES INVOLVING

03:14 - 49.690 TRUSTEES. SENSE THAT OF.

03:14 - 53.000 WILLIAM MCALEER I'M A SENIOR

03:14 - 54.380 AND HE CREATED A TRUST FOR THE

03:14 - 56.390 BENEFIT OF HIS SON AND 2

03:14 - 58.490 STEPSONS. THERE HAS BEEN

03:14 - 00.940 SIGNIFICANT LITIGATION. FROM

03:15 - 02.120 THE APPLE LEAVES.

03:15 - 05.090 BENEFICIARIES AGAINST THE

03:15 - 07.270 TRUSTEE. WILLIAM MCALEER

03:15 - 10.200 ALL ALONG WE'RE NOT JUST

03:15 - 11.870 CHALLENGES TO THE ORDINARY

03:15 - 14.780 ADMINISTRATION OR MAYBE ISSUE

03:15 - 15.900 THAT WILL GET INTO

03:15 - 17.540 THE LINE BETWEEN WHAT IS

03:15 - 18.950 ORDINARY ADMINISTRATION AND

03:15 - 20.930 WHAT IS AFTER CEREAL IS NOT

03:15 - 22.850 ALWAYS AN EASY WANT TO DEFINE.

03:15 - 24.550 AFTER

03:15 - 25.410 THE FIRST.

03:15 - 28.890 PARTIAL ACCOUNTING THE APPLE

03:15 - 31.100 LEE'S FILED OBJECTIONS AND

03:15 - 33.210 INCITED 21 CLAIMS OF ERROR

03:15 - 34.900 AFTER SOME CONTENTIOUS

03:15 - 35.760 LITIGATION.

03:15 - 38.770 THEY WITHDREW OR THE COMMON

03:15 - 40.820 PLEAS COURT DISMISSED EVERY

03:15 - 41.920 SINGLE ONE OF THOSE

03:15 - 44.310 WITH PREJUDICE. TRUSTEE WAS

03:15 - 46.290 ALSO FORCED TO

03:15 - 49.310 RETAIN COUNSEL TO OBTAIN SOME

03:15 - 51.090 LOCK BOXES THAT THE APP POLICE

03:15 - 52.920 SAID AN APPROPRIATELY TAKEN.

03:15 - 55.640 THAT CONTAINED IS STATE

03:15 - 56.270 PROPERTY.

03:15 - 58.940 AND THEN FINALLY WITH RESPECT

03:15 - 59.840 TO THE SECOND.

03:16 - 03.990 AND FINAL ACCOUNTING ON POLICE

03:16 - 06.180 HAVE FILED AND CLAIMS

03:16 - 08.200 OF AIR. ONE OF WHICH IS THE

03:16 - 09.360 CHARGE THAT THERE WERE

03:16 - 10.550 EXCESSIVE ATTORNEYS FEES

03:16 - 13.310 INCURRED IN RELATION TO

03:16 - 16.260 THE ADVERSARIAL PROCEEDINGS

03:16 - 17.760 THAT ARE THE RESULT OF THE

03:16 - 19.050 APPLE II ZONE CONDUCT.

03:16 - 22.830 AS YOU INDICATED MISTER CHIEF

03:16 - 23.620 JUSTICE

03:16 - 26.820 AND I THE TRUSTEE PRODUCED THE

03:16 - 28.960 ATTORNEYS INVOICES. ALL

03:16 - 31.030 ALONG I THEY DON'T NECESSARILY

03:16 - 32.900 AGREE WITH THE CHARACTERIZATION

03:16 - 33.740 THAT THEY WOULD

03:16 - 36.140 COMPLETELY REDACTED THOSE

03:16 - 38.090 APPEAR AND REPRODUCE RECORD ON

03:16 - 41.150 PAGES 20207 INCONSISTENT WITH.

03:16 - 44.250 LEGAL

03:16 - 45.940 FRAMEWORK SURROUNDING

03:16 - 47.010 THE PRODUCTION OF

03:16 - 48.760 ATTORNEY-CLIENT IN THE TOURNEY

03:16 - 49.060 WORK

03:16 - 51.200 PRODUCT INFORMATION. THE

03:16 - 53.310 INVOICES CONTAIN THE IDENTITY

03:16 - 55.470 OF TIMEKEEPERS THE AMOUNT OF

03:16 - 59.280 TIME THAT INCURRED AND SOME

03:16 - 01.400 DESCRIPTIONS OF OATH, THE

03:17 - 02.190 SERVICES.

03:17 - 05.090 HOWEVER THERE WERE CERTAIN

03:17 - 06.330 DESCRIPTIONS THAT WOULD

03:17 - 07.010 INCLUDE.

03:17 - 10.150 THAT WOULD REVEAL A TOURNEY

03:17 - 11.440 WORK PRODUCT ATTORNEY-CLIENT

03:17 - 12.430 COMMUNICATIONS THAT WERE

03:17 - 15.180 REDACTED YESTERDAY ALSO

03:17 - 17.740 I BELIEVE I SAID MAYBE

03:17 - 19.430 INCORRECTLY SIGNIFICANTLY AND

03:17 - 21.010 IT'S A COMPLETELY REDACTED.

03:17 - 22.860 >>YOU MAY DID NOT DIFFER WITH

03:17 - 24.180 THAT CHARACTERIZATION.

03:17 - 26.290 SIGNIFICANTLY, BUT AN IDEA

03:17 - 26.670 ABOUT.

03:17 - 31.470 SUGGEST THIS IS BEGINNING WITH

03:17 - 33.060 JUSTICE MONDAY IF THEY HAVE ANY

03:17 - 33.570 QUESTION.

03:17 - 36.150 >>GOOD AFTERNOON. I I DO HAVE A

03:17 - 37.930 QUESTION. I'M I'M I'M WONDERING

03:17 - 38.710 WHY.

03:17 - 41.210 >>THIS A SCENARIO WITH THIS

03:17 - 43.550 RELATIONSHIP OF A TRUSTEE AND

03:17 - 46.070 BENEFICIARIES IN A TRUST IS

03:17 - 49.050 DIFFERENT THEN SITUATION WHERE

03:17 - 50.120 YOU WOULD HAVE AND.

03:17 - 53.500 DEFENSE COUNSEL REPRESENTING

03:17 - 58.340 2 DEFENDANTS. WHEN IN FACT THAT

03:17 - 00.060 THERE ARE EYES IS A SCENARIO

03:18 - 03.180 WHERE THE BENT DEFENDANTS HAVE

03:18 - 04.460 AN ISSUE BETWEEN THEM THAT

03:18 - 05.530 WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO GET

03:18 - 07.360 SEPARATE COUNSEL. WHY ISN'T

03:18 - 09.080 THAT THE SIMPLE SOLUTION HERE.

03:18 - 10.390 THEY WOULD JUST GET SEPARATE

03:18 - 12.030 COUNSEL FOR THE TRUST AND

03:18 - 14.370 SUPREME COUNCIL FOR THE I

03:18 - 15.610 MISSING THE PICTURE.

03:18 - 18.720 THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S A

03:18 - 20.680 FAIR POINT I'M JUST GOING TO

03:18 - 20.820 BE.

03:18 - 23.650 PART OF THE

03:18 - 26.150 CONFUSION WITH FROM ME ACCOMPLI

03:18 - 27.280 SPORT, I THINK IN THIS

03:18 - 28.240 CASE WAS.

03:18 - 30.500 >>NOT RECOGNIZING THAT UNDER

03:18 - 32.320 THE LAW THE ATTORNEY ERNIE DOES

03:18 - 33.730 NOT REPRESENT THE ESTATE.

03:18 - 35.750 ON THE INTERNET IS NOT

03:18 - 37.120 REPRESENT THE BENEFICIARY.

03:18 - 38.570 INTEREST SITUATION, THE

03:18 - 39.560 ATTORNEY TO REPRESENT THE

03:18 - 42.250 TRUST IT. AND SO I YOU KNOW

03:18 - 44.580 TRUSTEES OR CALL ON TO

03:18 - 46.700 ADDRESS NUMEROUS ISSUES RELATED

03:18 - 48.890 EYE TO EYE ON THAT ROSS

03:18 - 51.550 ON MANY OF WHICH REQUIRED AND

03:18 - 53.500 LEGAL COUNSEL AND THAT THE

03:18 - 54.400 RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE

03:18 - 55.750 TRUSTEE AND COUNCIL AND THE

03:18 - 58.250 TRUSTEE IN ORDER TO HAVE

03:18 - 01.510 CONFIDENCE THAT THEY CAN SEEK

03:19 - 03.200 APPROPRIATE COUNSEL IN THAT

03:19 - 04.140 THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE

03:19 - 07.080 A POTENTIAL DISCLOSURE OF THE

03:19 - 08.770 INFORMATION THAT THEY THEY

03:19 - 10.190 REQUESTED THE INFORMATION THEY

03:19 - 12.690 RECEIVED. TO FEEL CONFIDENT

03:19 - 13.740 THAT THE U.S.

03:19 - 15.730 TRADITIONAL RULES OF

03:19 - 17.000 ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION

03:19 - 18.320 OF THAT TO WORK PRODUCT.

03:19 - 21.630 FOR IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU

03:19 - 22.510 JUST DESPAIR.

03:19 - 25.440 >>I MISS YOU DOWN SO THIS SEEMS

03:19 - 26.740 TO ME TO BE A TRICKY.

03:19 - 30.870 ON ONE HAND I THINK THIS COURT

03:19 - 31.320 CERTAINLY

03:19 - 33.820 I PERSONALLY ALWAYS PROTECTED

03:19 - 35.310 ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE SOUTH

03:19 - 38.170 SLEEP. THE OTHER HAND, HOW DOES

03:19 - 39.900 THE OTHER SIDE PROVE

03:19 - 42.160 ITS CASE THAT TRUST

03:19 - 44.880 CORPUS HAS BEEN WASTED THROUGH

03:19 - 45.850 ENOUGH

03:19 - 48.180 USER, HOWEVER, WITHOUT BEING

03:19 - 49.640 ABLE TO GET TO GET THAT

03:19 - 50.380 INFORMATION.

03:19 - 55.350 YOU FOLLOW I'M ASKING. I THINK

03:19 - 57.310 I DO I JUST DESPAIR AND.

03:19 - 00.040 WHAT THEY REPORTED FIRED IN

03:20 - 01.590 THIS CASE THEY RAISED AN

03:20 - 03.720 OBJECTION SAYING THAT THERE ARE

03:20 - 04.810 EXCESSIVE ATTORNEYS.

03:20 - 07.720 >>INVOICES

03:20 - 09.860 WERE PRODUCED IN AND DO A LOT

03:20 - 11.390 IN THIS CASE AND I

03:20 - 13.170 AND FROM YOUR COURT LEAVING

03:20 - 15.780 VERSUS A SET OF PA. FOX

03:20 - 16.650 A BELT.

03:20 - 19.300 THAT FLY COMMUNICATIONS IN THAT

03:20 - 20.820 TO WORK PRODUCT SPECIFICALLY IN

03:20 - 22.420 THE CONTEXT OF BILLING RECORDS.

03:20 - 24.790 AND WITH THE COURT SETTINGS

03:20 - 26.540 THAT BILLING RECORDS CONTAIN

03:20 - 27.000 BOTH.

03:20 - 29.010 MOTLEY CRUE VILLAGE AND

03:20 - 30.390 PRIVILEGED INFORMATION SO TO

03:20 - 31.510 ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BILLING

03:20 - 32.460 RECORDS WOULD HAVE TO BE

03:20 - 33.480 PRODUCED IN WORK.

03:20 - 36.050 AND THAT THE NON PRIVILEGE

03:20 - 37.590 PORTIONS OF THOSE RECORDS BE

03:20 - 40.300 PRODUCED SUCH AS IN YOUR IT'S

03:20 - 42.090 YOUR VIEW THAT IF THOSE

03:20 - 44.460 WERE PRODUCED THEN WE GIVE

03:20 - 46.870 HOSING SIDE B E T.

03:20 - 49.090 >>NONINTEREST THE BENEFICIARIES

03:20 - 51.320 ADEQUATE INFORMATION TO BE ABLE

03:20 - 51.930 TO PROSECUTE

03:20 - 52.480 THEIR CASE.

03:20 - 54.610 >>YES, AND SHIED AND IT'S JUST

03:20 - 56.090 LIKE ANY OTHER LITIGATION IN

03:20 - 58.260 WHICH BILLING RECORDS ARE

03:20 - 59.400 PRODUCED IF THERE'S A FEE

03:20 - 01.890 APPLICATION. IF THERE IS I A

03:21 - 04.540 CLAIM THAT MAYBE THERE WAS AN

03:21 - 07.400 OVERREACTION. COURTS DEAL WITH

03:21 - 08.070 ALL THE TIME.

03:21 - 10.340 >>WAS HERE THAT AND I'M SORRY

03:21 - 11.400 TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT MY TIME

03:21 - 13.220 IS SHORT. HERE THE TRIAL COURT

03:21 - 15.450 DECLINED A REQUEST FOR AN

03:21 - 17.440 CAMERA REVIEW. THAT'S GREAT.

03:21 - 19.140 WE HAVE TO REMAND THIS KNOW THE

03:21 - 20.450 TRIAL COURT TAKE A LOOK AT ALL

03:21 - 20.800 OF THIS.

03:21 - 24.850 >>IF THERE'S A

03:21 - 26.290 IF THERE IS A SUGGESTION THAT

03:21 - 26.590 CERTAIN

03:21 - 29.010 REDACTIONS WERE OVER REDACTED

03:21 - 30.420 YES AND I THINK THAT HAS TO BE

03:21 - 31.510 REVIEW BUT WITHIN THE

03:21 - 34.490 TRADITIONAL FRAMEWORK. THAT

03:21 - 35.850 FLIGHT CREW WOULD UNIT TO WORK

03:21 - 36.220 PRODUCT.

03:21 - 38.130 >>THEY'RE NOT SO AND SO WE

03:21 - 39.760 DECIDED THAT CURRENT CLIENT WAS

03:21 - 41.510 APPLICABLE IN YOUR ESTIMATION.

03:21 - 43.620 AND THEN A TRIAL COURT DECIDES

03:21 - 45.220 WHETHER WHATEVER YOU HAVE IN

03:21 - 46.430 YOUR RECORDS ARE NOT.

03:21 - 49.910 OKAY, I GOT IT THANK YOU.

03:21 - 51.400 YES, IT'S NOT.

03:21 - 54.310 >>QUESTIONS CHIEF.

03:21 - 55.820 >>THANK YOU JUST

03:21 - 56.330 DON'T HEAR.

03:21 - 58.410 >>I'M POINT OF CLARIFICATION

03:21 - 00.060 WHAT WHAT IS IT YOU'RE ASKING

03:22 - 00.300 US

03:22 - 02.430 TO DO I AS I UNDERSTAND IT

03:22 - 05.030 YOU CAN NOT ONE S TO A GOT A

03:22 - 06.830 FIDUCIARY STEPS IN TO BE

03:22 - 08.070 TURNING CLIENT PRIVILEGE.

03:22 - 12.030 >>OFTEN TIMES OFTENTIMES A NEW

03:22 - 12.410 BREED

03:22 - 14.970 FEEL SAY I DON'T ADOPT THE

03:22 - 16.920 EXCEPTION PARTICULARLY IN A

03:22 - 18.900 CASE LIKE THIS WITH INTENT JUST

03:22 - 20.500 RADIATION. SO WHICH IS IT.

03:22 - 23.770 YOU ALL OF YOU DON'T WANT TO

03:22 - 25.990 ADOPT ANY PARTICULAR HE IS LIKE

03:22 - 26.410 YES.

03:22 - 28.900 >>AND I THINK THAT'S A FAIR

03:22 - 30.840 POINT AND MAYBE THE LANGUAGE OF

03:22 - 32.680 THE BRIEF WAS IMPRECISE RIGHT.

03:22 - 36.400 OUR POSITION IS THAT. AGAIN

03:22 - 39.900 COUNCIL TO A TRUSTEE REPRESENTS

03:22 - 40.570 THE TRUSTEE.

03:22 - 44.040 AND TRUSTEES HAVE TO BE ABLE

03:22 - 46.730 TO. FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY

03:22 - 48.670 CAN CONSULT COUNCIL ON A

03:22 - 50.740 VARIETY OF COMPLEX LEGAL ISSUES

03:22 - 51.850 RELATING TO TRUST

03:22 - 53.520 WHETHER IT'S TREATING DIFFERENT

03:22 - 54.710 BENEFICIARIES THAT HAVE

03:22 - 55.620 DIFFERENT RIGHTS

03:22 - 56.610 DIFFERENTLY.

03:22 - 58.980 >>YEAH, I GET THAT COUNCIL BUT

03:22 - 00.520 WHAT IS IT YOU WANT TO GET IT.

03:23 - 02.900 HE WANTED TO STAY THERE IS NO

03:23 - 03.790 EXCEPTION.

03:23 - 06.140 OTHERWISE

03:23 - 07.580 REFERRED TO AC DC

03:23 - 09.670 ARIE EXCEPTION AND YOU'RE SO

03:23 - 10.760 VAIN IS ATTORNEY-CLIENT

03:23 - 12.230 PRIVILEGE OR YOU WANT TO

03:23 - 12.790 QUALIFY.

03:23 - 16.440 >>I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE

03:23 - 18.390 ANY SHERRY EXCEPTION.

03:23 - 20.190 THE ATTORNEY FOR CLIENT

03:23 - 21.710 COMMUNICATIONS CODIFIED BY

03:23 - 22.460 STATUTE. THERE'S

03:23 - 24.820 NO EXCEPTION. SIMILARLY

03:23 - 26.350 ATTORNEY TO WORK PRODUCT IS IN

03:23 - 28.750 GOAL FOR 1,003.3 8 THERE IS NO

03:23 - 31.450 EXCEPTION AND THE PROBLEM I

03:23 - 34.010 THINK ALONG WITH CREATING SOME

03:23 - 35.900 SORT OF EXCEPTION ON THIS.

03:23 - 37.540 THIS. WHETHER IT'S

03:23 - 39.880 ADMINISTRATIVE OR ADVERSARIAL

03:23 - 42.370 ALL LINE IS THAT THAT LINE IS

03:23 - 44.290 FREQUENTLY BLURRY AND

03:23 - 46.670 WHEN IT'S AND WHAT YOU THINK IS

03:23 - 48.410 A CULT AND KNOW WHAT IS IN

03:23 - 49.310 MINUTES, YOU KNOW,

03:23 - 51.280 AND WHAT IS ADVERSARIAL AND

03:23 - 52.770 WHAT MIGHT BE ADVERSARIAL ONE

03:23 - 54.990 BENEFICIARY OR IN THE VIEW OF

03:23 - 57.370 ONE BENEFICIARY. I MIGHT BE

03:23 - 58.980 JUST ADMINISTRATE THEM MIGHT BE

03:23 - 01.120 DEEMED ADVERSARY OTHER. AND

03:24 - 01.500 LOOK

03:24 - 03.600 IT'S UNCERTAIN. AND AS THIS

03:24 - 04.810 COURT HAS NOTED AND ON CERTAIN

03:24 - 06.210 PRIVILEGES LITTLE BETTER THAN

03:24 - 08.830 NO. AND THAT UNCERTAINTY I

03:24 - 10.680 THINK IT'S GOING GOING TO HAVE

03:24 - 11.660 A CHILLING EFFECT ON THE

03:24 - 13.360 TRUSTEES WILLINGNESS AND

03:24 - 14.920 ABILITY TO GO SEEK LEGAL LOOKS

03:24 - 16.610 SET HAS YOUR QUESTION. I

03:24 - 18.240 DIRECTLY IS I DON'T THINK THERE

03:24 - 19.150 SHOULD BE ANY.

03:24 - 22.250 DISTINCTION OR EXCEPTION TO

03:24 - 24.760 OR FOR NEW SHARE EXCEPTIONS TO

03:24 - 26.400 RETURN TO WORK ON THAT FLIGHT

03:24 - 28.640 COMMUNICATION. IT'S EASIEST TO

03:24 - 29.560 SEE NO I THINK

03:24 - 30.850 WHEN THERE IS A CLEAR

03:24 - 32.260 ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP AS

03:24 - 34.190 THERE WAS IN THIS CASE. WHY.

03:24 - 36.120 I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A

03:24 - 37.500 DISTINCTION THAT RELATIONSHIP.

03:24 - 39.710 THANK YOU. THANK YOU

03:24 - 41.910 JUSTICE DAUGHERTY MY QUESTION

03:24 - 43.170 FALLS RIGHT IN LINE WITH

03:24 - 45.030 JUSTICE AND YOU SHOW WHAT IS IT

03:24 - 45.340 THAT.

03:24 - 47.140 >>BIG WHAT IS THE RELIEF THAT

03:24 - 49.370 YOU REQUEST GO TO THE TRIAL

03:24 - 50.930 COURT FOR A DETERMINATION.

03:24 - 52.830 READ THE DOCUMENTS FALL WITHIN

03:24 - 54.010 THAT TIME FOR LUNCH.

03:24 - 56.580 >>BUT YES, THE TRIAL COURT JUST

03:24 - 58.930 RULED THAT IT PROPER TO DO ANY

03:24 - 01.140 INDEPENDENT EXAMINATION AFTER

03:25 - 03.590 YOUR US I APOLOGIZE FOR US MOST

03:25 - 05.720 EVERY MAN SO THAT THEY CAN AND

03:25 - 07.110 WHAT IS IT WHAT REMEDY DO YOU

03:25 - 09.190 SEE CAN CONFUSE AS HE RAN.

03:25 - 12.590 THERE ARE. WELL WE'RE ASKING

03:25 - 13.540 THAT THERE BE NO.

03:25 - 16.420 YOU CHERI EXCEPTION ADOPTED SO

03:25 - 17.850 IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IT

03:25 - 18.510 SHOULD GO BACK TO

03:25 - 19.830 TRIAL COURT. IT'S THE

03:25 - 21.900 BENEFICIARIES NAPOLI'S THINK

03:25 - 22.560 THAT SOMETHING WAS

03:25 - 24.360 OVER DESIGNATED. AND YES, THE

03:25 - 25.670 TRUMP OR WOULD HAVE TO THEN DO

03:25 - 26.780 AN EVALUATION OF THOSE

03:25 - 29.360 PARTICULAR INTEREST. A TRY BUT

03:25 - 32.240 THANK YOU. WORK.

03:25 - 34.420 >>THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE GOOD

03:25 - 35.630 AFTERNOON MISTER DEL SOL.

03:25 - 39.100 IN THIS CASE YOU HAVE BOB.

03:25 - 41.200 AN ACRIMONIOUS.

03:25 - 44.890 SITUATION DISPUTE A LITIGATION.

03:25 - 48.050 BETWEEN CO-BENEFITS YEARS IS

03:25 - 50.480 NOT JUST BETWEEN BENEFICIARIES

03:25 - 52.310 BENEFICIARIES AND THEIR TRUSTY.

03:25 - 54.600 TRUSTEES AKO BENEFICIARY,

03:25 - 56.000 CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT.

03:25 - 57.760 AND THE AND

03:25 - 00.570 THE FUNDS FOR NOT ONE BUT 2 LAW

03:26 - 02.570 FIRMS KAINO GATES AND ANOTHER

03:26 - 04.810 FIRM OR PAY OUT OF THE TRUST

03:26 - 06.800 CORPUS NOT BY THE NOT BY THE

03:26 - 08.610 TRUSTEE RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT.

03:26 - 10.400 OKAY. SO.

03:26 - 14.650 YOU DON'T WANT. IN

03:26 - 15.950 THAT SCENARIO.

03:26 - 18.410 THE BENEFICIARIES WHO ARE

03:26 - 19.760 CLAIMING WITHOUT JUDGING THE

03:26 - 21.780 MERITS. THEY'RE CLAIMING OR

03:26 - 23.460 MAINTAINING THEIR. THERE'S

03:26 - 26.090 LOOTING OR WASTE OR WHATEVER ON

03:26 - 27.950 THAT THEY WANT TO GET THAT BY

03:26 - 29.660 THEIR CO BENEFICIARY, WHO

03:26 - 31.340 HAPPENS ALSO TO BE THE TRUSTEE.

03:26 - 33.580 AND THE CORPUS TO WHICH THEY'RE

03:26 - 37.030 ENTITLED TO SHARE USED TO PAY.

03:26 - 39.380 BUT YOU DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD

03:26 - 40.990 BE ALLOWED. GO LOOK AT THOSE

03:26 - 43.460 BILLS. I

03:26 - 44.090 THINK SOMETHING.

03:26 - 45.640 >>YEAH I I THINK THEY SHOULD BE

03:26 - 46.090 ALLOWED TO

03:26 - 48.000 LOOK AT THE NON PRIVILEGE

03:26 - 49.660 PORTIONS OF THOSE BUILDINGS

03:26 - 50.880 DOUBT THAT THEY BLACKED DOWN

03:26 - 52.970 ALMOST EVERYTHING. WELL LIKE I

03:26 - 54.460 SAID IF THERE IS A CLAIM THAT

03:26 - 56.130 THERE WAS AN OVERREACTION.

03:26 - 58.030 THEY HAVE NO CORE DOES HAVE THE

03:26 - 58.480 ABILITY

03:26 - 00.350 TO SAY WE'VE DONE IN CAMERA

03:27 - 01.820 VIEW AND PORTIONS THAT WERE

03:27 - 03.270 DESIGNATED AS PRIVILEGE.

03:27 - 04.460 I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE.

03:27 - 05.510 THANK YOU

03:27 - 08.380 CREATE A WHOLESALE YOU CHERI

03:27 - 10.150 EXCLUSION TO TURNING WORK

03:27 - 11.250 PRODUCT ATTORNEY-CLIENT

03:27 - 12.210 COMMUNICATION THAT DOESN'T

03:27 - 13.750 EXCUSE THE DEBT BATTLE, A

03:27 - 15.230 STARTING ROLE AGAIN TIME IS

03:27 - 17.430 SHORT. I WASN'T THAT BAD A LOST

03:27 - 19.030 IN THE ORPHANS COURT WHEN.

03:27 - 22.790 TRUSTEES COUNCIL. MERELY IMPOSE

03:27 - 24.380 SOME GENERALIZE PRIVILEGE

03:27 - 25.970 OBJECTION WITHOUT ANY

03:27 - 27.100 PARTICULAR STATION.

03:27 - 29.700 WELL THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE.

03:27 - 30.560 I DON'T THINK THE BATTLE IS

03:27 - 32.020 LOST BECAUSE THE COURT NEVER

03:27 - 33.630 NEVER ENGAGE THE BATTLE AND

03:27 - 34.800 NEVER GET TO REVIEW.

03:27 - 37.420 YES, I

03:27 - 38.290 UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING

03:27 - 40.030 THE CALL THE THE COMPANY'S

03:27 - 42.230 COURT SAID THAT A PRIVILEGE WAS

03:27 - 43.150 NOT PRESERVED.

03:27 - 45.780 I THINK THAT THE PROBE WHICH

03:27 - 47.050 CLEARLY WAS PRESERVED IN

03:27 - 48.580 RESPONSE TO THE REQUEST.

03:27 - 51.790 THE INVOICES WERE

03:27 - 53.520 PROVIDED UNREDACTED FORM

03:27 - 55.460 CONSISTENT WITH LEVY VERSUS THE

03:27 - 57.710 SENATE OF PENNSYLVANIA. IN

03:27 - 58.780 RESPONSE TO THE MOTION TO

03:27 - 00.940 COMPEL COUNCIL FOR THE

03:28 - 02.370 APPELLANT THE TRUSTEE,

03:28 - 04.000 SPECIFICALLY RAISED BOTH THE

03:28 - 05.890 INTERNAL WORK PRODUCT INTO THE

03:28 - 08.130 NIGHT THAT FLANK COMMUNICATIONS

03:28 - 08.570 SAID THEY ARE

03:28 - 10.810 NOT WAITING. I ASKED THIS

03:28 - 12.110 QUESTION AND THEN I'LL LET

03:28 - 12.290 OTHER

03:28 - 14.060 JUSTICES ASKED. I'M SORRY GO

03:28 - 15.470 SURVIVED BY HIS WIFE WERE FEARS

03:28 - 17.080 THAT ONE POINT AND THEY DANCE

03:28 - 18.860 AND SHE DID OFFER TO HAVE AN IN

03:28 - 20.600 CAMERA REVIEW AND I THINK THEN.

03:28 - 23.320 BY SAYING GIVEN ALL THAT IT WAS

03:28 - 24.550 STILL WAY IT WAS PUTTING

03:28 - 27.130 COUNCIL AND ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE

03:28 - 28.960 SITUATION THAT TO DO MORE.

03:28 - 31.090 SHE WOULD HAVE TO JUST DISCLOSE

03:28 - 32.830 THE ALLEGEDLY THE PRIVILEGED

03:28 - 33.980 INFORMATION TO PROVE IT

03:28 - 35.720 WAS PRIVILEGE BECAUSE IT WAS

03:28 - 36.980 ONLY SO MUCH THAT YOU CAN SAY

03:28 - 38.810 OR DO IN VOTING PRIVILEGE.

03:28 - 41.090 I THINK SHE DID ALL. ALL RIGHT

03:28 - 43.290 LAST QUESTION. ISN'T IT

03:28 - 45.350 BECAUSE ON SOME

03:28 - 48.330 ACRIMONY US ENSURE A FAMILY

03:28 - 51.070 TRUST DISPUTES. JUST LIKE THIS

03:28 - 52.940 ONE. THEN THE RESTATEMENT

03:28 - 54.950 SECOND AND 3RD AND JUDGE

03:28 - 56.220 WEDDINGS DECISION IN THE OTHER

03:28 - 59.290 CASE. ALL TALK ABOUT ALL.

03:28 - 02.670 THE TRUSTEE, HIRING HIS OR HER

03:29 - 04.250 OWN COUNSEL IN OTHER WORDS.

03:29 - 06.570 ONCE THIS DISPUTE CROPPED UP

03:29 - 08.030 WITH THEIR STEPBROTHERS OR STEP

03:29 - 10.490 SIBLINGS OR WHATEVER. WHY

03:29 - 12.340 DIDN'T YOUR CLIENT GO. WHITE

03:29 - 13.400 BALL GO ON AND SAY.

03:29 - 15.800 WE HAVE A DISPUTE ABOUT THIS

03:29 - 18.130 TRUST CORPUS RATHER THAN

03:29 - 19.650 GRABBING THEIR TRUST CORPUS TO

03:29 - 21.970 PAY FOR MY ATTORNEYS, I'M GOING

03:29 - 23.890 TO PAY FOR THE ATTORNEY TO

03:29 - 26.380 PROTECT MYSELF AGAINST

03:29 - 28.770 BENEFICIARIES WHY DIDN'T THE

03:29 - 30.180 RESTATEMENT AND THE WEDDING

03:29 - 32.250 DECISION GIVE YOUR CLIENT.

03:29 - 34.770 A CLEAR GUIDANCE. YOU KNOW WHAT

03:29 - 37.190 I'M ON THE HOOK HERE. I NEED MY

03:29 - 40.360 OWN LAWYER, RATHER THAN USING

03:29 - 42.400 THEIR LAWYER, I'M SORRY THEIR

03:29 - 43.830 MONEY TO PAY FOR THE LAWYER

03:29 - 44.940 AGAINST THEIR INTEREST.

03:29 - 47.120 RIGHT. WELL A RESTATEMENT OF

03:29 - 48.620 TRUST SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES

03:29 - 48.710 THE

03:29 - 51.120 PAYMENT OF ATTORNEY'S FEES OUT

03:29 - 52.800 OF THE CORPUS OF THE TRUST AND

03:29 - 54.850 BECAUSE IT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR

03:29 - 56.470 TRUSTEES TO HAVE ACCESS TO

03:29 - 58.340 COUNSEL AND TO MAKE SURE THAT

03:29 - 59.550 THEY ARE MAKING APPROPRIATE

03:29 - 00.760 DECISIONS IN THERE.

03:30 - 02.150 IN AND MEETING THEIR

03:30 - 04.320 OBLIGATIONS AS TRUSTEES THAT.

03:30 - 06.920 A LOT OF TRUST IS THAT THAT CAN

03:30 - 08.500 BE PAID OUT OF THE CORPUS OF

03:30 - 09.090 THE TRUST.

03:30 - 11.550 WITH THE FALL IN THE CASE

03:30 - 13.220 JUDGE WASTE BASEBALL BE VERSUS

03:30 - 16.830 GIRL ACHATZ 2002 CASE. WHEN

03:30 - 18.630 FOLLOWED BE HELD IS THAT.

03:30 - 20.680 THE GENERAL

03:30 - 23.320 OBLIGATION OF A TRUSTEE TO

03:30 - 24.700 PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE

03:30 - 25.960 BENEFICIARIES UNDER THE

03:30 - 28.390 RESTATEMENT SECTION 82 SECTION

03:30 - 29.650 WAS NEVER ADOPTED IN THE

03:30 - 30.920 COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA.

03:30 - 32.700 THAT JUST STATES THAT.

03:30 - 34.930 THE BIG BENEFICIARIES HAVE A

03:30 - 36.390 REASONABLE BASIS TO INSPECT

03:30 - 37.930 TRUST DOCUMENTS RECORDS AND

03:30 - 41.280 PROPERTY OR. NOW NATO A LEAP

03:30 - 43.270 FROM THERE. IT STATED THAT

03:30 - 45.900 INCLUDES ATTORNEY TO CLIMB

03:30 - 47.110 COMMUNICATIONS, BUT THERE IS

03:30 - 48.510 NOWHERE WITHIN 3 STATEMENT

03:30 - 50.380 THAT'S NOT A RESTATEMENT 72 OR

03:30 - 51.890 IN THE NEW RESTATEMENT SECTION

03:30 - 54.870 OF TRACKS ONE 74. AND IN FACT

03:30 - 56.090 IN THE NEWER SECTION.

03:30 - 00.760 DAY DECLINED TO DO IMPOSE A

03:31 - 01.880 FIDUCIARY EXCEPT.

03:31 - 03.860 SO

03:31 - 06.450 THE JUDGE WHEN IT LOOKED AT

03:31 - 07.840 INVOLVES BE LOOKED AT THAT

03:31 - 09.170 RESTATEMENT SECTION THAT'S NOT

03:31 - 10.810 THE LAW COUNCIL VEIA ANDY

03:31 - 13.710 E READ INTO IT LANGUAGE THAT

03:31 - 16.090 I RESPECTFULLY DOESN'T EXIST HE

03:31 - 18.900 ALSO LOOKED AT THIS COURT'S IN

03:31 - 20.640 RE ROSENBLUM THE STATE FROM

03:31 - 23.180 1974. AND AGAIN THAT OPINION

03:31 - 25.930 ONLY STATES THAT A TRUSTEE HAS

03:31 - 26.870 A RESPONSIBILITY

03:31 - 29.200 TO PROVIDE CERTAIN DOCUMENTS OF

03:31 - 29.880 THE TRUST

03:31 - 31.830 THE BENEFICIARIES SO THAT THEY

03:31 - 33.270 UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR INTEREST

03:31 - 33.790 AS THERE IS

03:31 - 35.740 NOTHING IN ATTORNEY-CLIENT

03:31 - 37.090 PRIVILEGE WAS NOT EVEN AN ISSUE

03:31 - 38.580 IN ROSE AND MISSUS COVER BEEN

03:31 - 39.790 ADDRESSED. BUT WHAT'S

03:31 - 41.350 INTERESTING ABOUT COLLINS BE IS

03:31 - 42.710 THAT EVEN JUDGE WAY TO

03:31 - 43.740 ACKNOWLEDGE IS THAT THE

03:31 - 45.550 RELATIONSHIP IS AND THIS GETS

03:31 - 47.460 YOUR QUESTION RELATIONSHIP WITH

03:31 - 48.380 COUNCIL IS A

03:31 - 50.540 RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN TRUSTEE

03:31 - 51.690 AND COUNCIL A COUNCIL

03:31 - 53.160 REPRESENTS THE TRUSTEE NOT TO

03:31 - 54.690 BENEFICIARIES OR THE ESTATE

03:31 - 56.350 EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT

03:31 - 58.210 INVOLVES BE IN STATES THAT THE

03:31 - 59.520 EXTENT THAT THE INTERESTS.

03:32 - 02.820 IN ARE DIVERGENT

03:32 - 04.190 BETWEEN THE BENEFICIARIES AND

03:32 - 06.010 THE TRUSTEE CLEARLY ALL THAT

03:32 - 06.750 WOULD BE PRESENT.

03:32 - 13.580 DUE THEY'VE REALLY RESPONDED TO

03:32 - 14.520 2 ARGUMENTS IN THE

03:32 - 18.070 >>MISTER DEL SOL. IF YOU HAD A

03:32 - 20.570 SENTENCE OR 2. BY WAY OF

03:32 - 23.190 SOME MARIA LET'S TURN TO THE AP

03:32 - 23.710 EARLY.

03:32 - 31.550 YES, THANK YOU IS TO AGAIN WE

03:32 - 33.070 I URGE THIS

03:32 - 35.320 COURT TO THINK ABOUT THIS CASE

03:32 - 36.480 AND I KNOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT

03:32 - 37.910 THAT THE SMALL.

03:32 - 39.570 NARROW CONFINES, THIS

03:32 - 40.620 PARTICULAR CASE, BUT THE

03:32 - 42.470 BROADER RAMIFICATIONS OF ALL

03:32 - 44.340 THE COMPLEX IS THE PRESS, THE

03:32 - 44.930 SPACE.

03:32 - 46.150 >>ACTUALLY SHE'S REAL

03:32 - 48.660 ESTATE ISSUES. VARIOUS THINGS

03:32 - 50.510 THAT MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY

03:32 - 52.660 CONSOLE IN THE TANK, YOU COULD

03:32 - 55.410 ICE IF THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT.

03:32 - 57.010 WHETHER

03:32 - 58.810 THAT ADVISE IT ACTED LAWFULLY

03:32 - 00.090 TO LITTLE EFFECT WHICH WILL

03:33 - 02.150 ULTIMATELY IMPACT THEIR ABILITY

03:33 - 04.170 TO PERFORM THEIR OBLIGATIONS I

03:33 - 05.700 THINK ULTIMATELY END UP IN HARM

03:33 - 07.560 TO THE TROOPS. I'M SORRY ARMS

03:33 - 08.420 ABOUT FISHER'S.

03:33 - 15.180 >>THANK YOU MAY PLEASE THE

03:33 - 16.320 COURT MY NAME IS

03:33 - 18.720 EARL KAPLAN REPRESENT MICHAEL

03:33 - 19.890 LANG AND STEPHEN LANG

03:33 - 21.490 BENEFICIARIES OF THE TRUST OF

03:33 - 23.090 THEIR WEIGHT STOP OTHER.

03:33 - 24.400 WELL YOU'RE NOT CLEAR.

03:33 - 26.520 INITIALLY WE

03:33 - 28.660 SIT MET THE DEAL SHOULD BE

03:33 - 30.080 QUASHED BECAUSE IT DOES NOT

03:33 - 31.660 MEET WITH 3 PRONG STANDARD.

03:33 - 33.750 A BLOW YOU UP AND HAD A ROCKY

03:33 - 34.520 TORY ORDER.

03:33 - 36.590 PURSUANT TO EITHER THE RULES OF

03:33 - 38.510 APPELLATE PROCEDURE AND SHE

03:33 - 40.510 SAYS HER SON TOLD HER WAS THE

03:33 - 43.040 CASE. THE ISSUE OF EXCESSIVE

03:33 - 44.810 USE OF THE TERM HE'S IS NOT A

03:33 - 46.320 CLEVER WAY SHE WOULD NOT BE

03:33 - 48.480 SEPARATED. THE MANAGER.

03:33 - 50.980 IT IS THE CENTRAL CORE ISSUE IN

03:33 - 51.990 THE CASE THAT FAR.

03:33 - 54.730 IT STARTED AND I BOTH THE TOP

03:33 - 56.300 WORK IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.

03:33 - 58.050 THERE ARE NO FACTS OF RECORD TO

03:33 - 59.440 SUPPORT THE ASSERTION OF

03:33 - 01.580 PRIVILEGE WHO MAY SHUN WHITE

03:34 - 03.450 MUTUAL ARE SAYS ONE IN CASE.

03:34 - 05.110 THERE'S A SHIFTING BURDEN

03:34 - 07.410 OF PROOF. YEAH, HELLO AND NEEDS

03:34 - 09.500 TO FIRST PLACE FACTS OF RECORD.

03:34 - 11.970 I HEARD PLEADING MOTION FOR

03:34 - 13.440 PROTECTIVE DO SO OR

03:34 - 16.140 PROTECTIVE ORDER. BUT IN

03:34 - 18.370 THIS SITUATION. THE TRUSTEE

03:34 - 20.090 NUMBER CERTAINLY WERE PLACED

03:34 - 22.390 ANY FACTS OF THE RECORD WHICH

03:34 - 23.980 WAS NOT PROPERLY RAISED.

03:34 - 26.040 YOU ARE DRESSING

03:34 - 28.510 THE MERITS EYE IN THE OPINION

03:34 - 31.350 IN THE 2002 CASE, A COMMON

03:34 - 33.420 PLEAS CASE OF POLAND'S BIEBER

03:34 - 35.670 SAYS BY LAW. THE HONORABLE

03:34 - 37.670 JUDGE PLAY. HE BALANCED

03:34 - 40.000 IN WADE. THE INTERESTS

03:34 - 41.870 OF THE TRUSTEES DUTIES

03:34 - 43.640 OF DISCLOSURE UNDER UNIFORM

03:34 - 46.000 TRUST ACT OR SAYS RIGHT THERE

03:34 - 48.500 ON CLIENT PRIVILEGE. HE MADE

03:34 - 51.110 REFERENCE TO RESTATEMENT SECOND

03:34 - 52.500 OF TRUST I JUST

03:34 - 54.500 WANT TO JUMP AHEAD

03:34 - 56.800 TO A RESTATEMENT 3RD OF TRUST

03:34 - 58.030 WHICH SAYS THAT WE

03:34 - 00.170 CAME OUT AND IT ESSENTIALLY

03:35 - 02.100 ENCAPSULATED THE SAME RUSSIAN

03:35 - 05.590 NOW AS JUDGE MEDICS HOLDING IN

03:35 - 07.810 CRITICAL DISTINCTION. THIS

03:35 - 10.070 MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER

03:35 - 12.330 MISTER DEL SOL. IT'S

03:35 - 14.820 HARD TO DEFINE WHAT IS AN

03:35 - 16.680 ADVERSARIAL FOR SPEEDING.

03:35 - 17.970 WELL I SUBMIT

03:35 - 20.140 TO YOU WHEN IT'S HOLDING

03:35 - 21.490 RESTATEMENT SECOND EVERY

03:35 - 22.690 STATEMENT FROM US

03:35 - 25.530 DO I GO TO DEFINE

03:35 - 27.960 UNCLEAR WHEN. WHAT IS AN

03:35 - 30.060 ADVERSARIAL PROCEEDING. YOU

03:35 - 32.450 KNOW HOW AND IN THIS CASE, MRS.

03:35 - 34.140 THE CRITICAL DISTINCTION.

03:35 - 36.710 AND I AND WORKERS AERIAL

03:35 - 39.340 PROCEEDING IS PART OF HIS TRUE

03:35 - 41.070 PASSION. THE TRUSTEE FOR

03:35 - 41.840 REMOVAL

03:35 - 44.170 OR DISCHARGE. THOSE ARE WORDS

03:35 - 48.160 AND RESTATEMENT THIS CASE LIKE

03:35 - 50.220 THE LITIGATION. BUT IT WAS

03:35 - 52.600 ALWAYS ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVE

03:35 - 54.370 DECISIONS AND ACTIONS BY THE

03:35 - 56.700 TRUSTEE IT WAS NEVER ABOUT

03:35 - 58.750 SURCHARGE WORKED.

03:35 - 02.070 A DISMISSAL. WELL SINCE THERE

03:36 - 04.660 ARE NO FACTS OF RECORD. CERTAIN

03:36 - 06.870 BY THE TRUSTEE REGARDING

03:36 - 08.530 PRIVILEGE, IT'S UNCLEAR.

03:36 - 09.790 WHITE

03:36 - 12.380 TO EXPERIENCE. LAW FIRMS

03:36 - 13.800 REPRESENTING THE TRUSTEE WOULD

03:36 - 15.810 PLACE PRIVILEGED INFORMATION IN

03:36 - 17.750 BILLING STATEMENTS HALTING

03:36 - 20.050 THE TRUST. RUSTY HAS A DUTY OF

03:36 - 22.650 DISCLOSURE WHY DO IT. YES SIR

03:36 - 24.060 IIT'S TO SHIELD

03:36 - 26.260 THE BILLS, SHE'LL THE BILLS

03:36 - 28.060 FROM REVIEW OF BACK ISSUES AND

03:36 - 31.420 FROM WORK. IN A HIGHER ORDER IN

03:36 - 34.100 THIS CASE. OUR TRIAL JUDGE

03:36 - 35.640 ENTERED THE WATER REDUCING

03:36 - 38.230 AWARD TO THE TRUSTEE. WE'RE

03:36 - 41.460 TURNING MEANS. I 80%. YOU DON'T

03:36 - 44.360 SESSER WORSE OF THOSE. I

03:36 - 46.700 TURN THESE WE SHOULD NOTE THAT

03:36 - 49.180 BECAUSE OF HIS EARLIER ORDER

03:36 - 50.310 REDUCING FEES.

03:36 - 52.570 TRUSTEES ATTORNEYS. THEY

03:36 - 54.320 LEARNED LAST AND HE KNEW BETTER

03:36 - 56.080 A NEW NOT.

03:36 - 57.790 >>AS YOU KNOW WHAT WE SAY THEIR

03:36 - 00.420 PROTOCOL. WE ALLOWED 3 MINUTES.

03:37 - 02.980 WE'RE NOT THE STATE. AND THEN

03:37 - 04.970 YOU YOU'VE EXCEEDED THAT SO.

03:37 - 07.680 WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE A PARDON

03:37 - 10.120 MOOT QUESTION. TURNING WITH GAS

03:37 - 12.220 AS MONDAY. I'M NO QUESTIONS

03:37 - 12.920 THANK YOU.

03:37 - 20.570 I CAN HEAR YOUR HONOR.

03:37 - 23.540 CAMMY NOW OH YES, SIR,

03:37 - 26.070 NATIONAL I'M GIVING UP ON

03:37 - 30.810 MY NOSE. SAME WAS TO GO SO

03:37 - 31.140 WELL.

03:37 - 34.140 >>CAN YOU PROVE IT, YOU KNOW

03:37 - 35.020 NOBODY CAN

03:37 - 37.830 CAN CAN. THIS COVERAGE PRETTY

03:37 - 39.840 QUIET PRIVILEGE FROM THE

03:37 - 41.440 OPPOSING SIDE IN

03:37 - 44.620 THE LAST. IN THIS CASE CAN YOU

03:37 - 47.320 PROVE IT THE CORPUS OF THE

03:37 - 51.290 WASTED WHICH IS YOUR THEORY BY

03:37 - 53.240 OTHER MEANS IN BEEN DISCOVERED

03:37 - 54.150 THIS INFORMATION.

03:37 - 57.280 >>WELL I NEED THIS INFORMATION

03:37 - 58.770 AND HE COMPLETELY ALL

03:37 - 01.560 UNREDACTED BILLING STATEMENTS

03:38 - 02.460 IN

03:38 - 04.820 THIS CASE. IF THE PAYMENTS THAT

03:38 - 07.070 WERE MADE TO THE EYE TO

03:38 - 08.500 TRUSTEES COUNCIL OUT OF THE

03:38 - 09.800 CORPUS OF THE TRUST AND

03:38 - 11.840 WITHDRAW ULTIMATELY BEING PAID

03:38 - 13.920 BY BENEFICIARIES I YOU KNOW

03:38 - 15.830 MOMS TO A PRETTY STAGGERING

03:38 - 16.850 AMOUNT IN FACT.

03:38 - 19.280 I WILL TELL YOU JOHN SHOW

03:38 - 20.990 DARKEN ENTERED AN ORDER.

03:38 - 23.860 PRECLUDING ANY FURTHER PAYMENT

03:38 - 26.420 OF THESE WITHOUT ANY

03:38 - 27.220 ADDITIONAL ORDER

03:38 - 29.320 COURT NEVER AND UPON

03:38 - 31.150 TRUSTEES REQUESTS FOR FURTHER

03:38 - 33.350 THESE KIDS DO I NEED FIRST TO

03:38 - 35.220 SEE THE COMPLETE MAKE A

03:38 - 36.090 TOTALITY OF

03:38 - 38.680 THESE BILLS. OH NO WE NEED

03:38 - 40.280 THOSE BILLS ARE REDACTED.

03:38 - 44.590 >>YOU CAN GUESS

03:38 - 45.140 IS TIME.

03:38 - 47.350 >>NO QUESTIONS THANK YOU.

03:38 - 49.710 >>THANK YOU, JUSTIN SUNNIER I

03:38 - 52.220 KNOW LIFE. THANK YOU JUSTICE

03:38 - 54.140 SAID TALKING. NO QUESTION.

03:38 - 56.570 YOU CAN JUST AS WELL.

03:38 - 58.740 THANK YOU CHIEF JUSTICE GOOD

03:38 - 59.930 AFTERNOON MISTER KAPLAN

03:39 - 01.440 DID THE.

03:39 - 03.410 >>TRIAL JUDGE THAT THE EARTH

03:39 - 04.100 DID THE ORPHANS

03:39 - 07.060 COURT JUDGE. SO ERROR IN THIS

03:39 - 09.110 CASE BY DECLINING TO CONDUCT AN

03:39 - 09.250 IN

03:39 - 11.290 CAMERA REVIEW. AND THAT

03:39 - 12.570 INCLUDED THAT FAILURE TO

03:39 - 15.120 CONDUCT AN IN CAMERA VIEW.

03:39 - 18.950 SHIFT THE BURDEN BACK TO YOUR

03:39 - 19.760 CLIENTS.

03:39 - 23.600 >>THERE'S NO ERROR WHATSOEVER

03:39 - 24.860 TO THE REASON IS TO

03:39 - 26.820 CALL FIRST. AND THERE ARE NO

03:39 - 29.920 FACTS PLACE OF RECORD FOR USE

03:39 - 31.770 ONLY A PRIVILEGE

03:39 - 34.290 AND WHY PRIVILEGED INFORMATION

03:39 - 36.090 WAS EVEN PLACED IN

03:39 - 38.950 BILLING STATEMENTS. SO.

03:39 - 40.480 THOUGH

03:39 - 41.900 THE THERE'S THERE'S A WINNER

03:39 - 43.630 AND THE SECOND THE SECOND

03:39 - 44.590 REASON IS THAT

03:39 - 47.440 HE'S A. BENEFICIARIES WHO ARE

03:39 - 48.540 PAYING FOR THE BILLS,

03:39 - 50.610 WE'LL NEED COMPLETE AND

03:39 - 51.340 UNREDACTED

03:39 - 54.000 BILLING STATEMENTS I TO ADDRESS

03:39 - 55.970 THE CENTRAL ISSUE OF THE CASE

03:39 - 57.950 AS WELL AS EXCESSIVE FEES.

03:39 - 59.830 >>A LAST QUESTION MISTER KAPLAN

03:39 - 02.040 WOULD YOU AGREE THAT A WAY OUT

03:40 - 02.350 OF THIS.

03:40 - 05.360 THANK YOU IS FOR YOUR

03:40 - 08.470 TRUSTY HIGHER PERSONAL COUNSEL

03:40 - 10.000 WHEN A DISPUTE ARISES WITH COOK

03:40 - 11.150 BENEFICIARIES.

03:40 - 12.590 >>YES, YOUR HONOR AND THAT WAS

03:40 - 14.490 ADDRESSED BY JUDGE LANDED HIM

03:40 - 15.950 IN THE FALL OF THE PURSES ARE

03:40 - 17.660 LOCKED CASE. IT'S ALSO

03:40 - 19.540 ADDRESSED IN RESTATEMENT SECOND

03:40 - 20.400 BIRD TRUST

03:40 - 22.490 I WOULD SUBMIT THAT DECIDED

03:40 - 24.750 HEARING SECTIONALS AS THE

03:40 - 25.890 ESSENCE OF WHICH WAS.

03:40 - 29.640 KIND BY A JUDGE LIKE

03:40 - 32.820 SAYS THAT IT THE

03:40 - 35.270 TRUSTEE RETAINS SEPARATE

03:40 - 36.140 COUNCIL PAY

03:40 - 39.050 THE THE TRUSTEES

03:40 - 41.080 OWN CLIMBS AND FOR THE

03:40 - 43.310 PROTECTION AS AGAINST SURCHARGE

03:40 - 45.410 AND OR DISMISSAL REMOVAL

03:40 - 47.270 UH YEAH THAT WOULD NOT

03:40 - 49.810 DISPOSABLE THAT WOULD TOPPLE

03:40 - 51.420 STOP JUST VERY JUST VERY

03:40 - 52.470 BRIEFLY SIR, I'M SORRY.

03:40 - 53.880 >>I'M JUST VERY BRIEFLY IN THIS

03:40 - 55.010 PARTICULAR CASE.

03:40 - 58.180 WHERE THE 2 LAW FIRMS BROUGHT

03:40 - 00.400 ON AS A RESULT OF THE DISPUTE

03:41 - 00.980 WITH THE

03:41 - 04.850 CO BENEFICIARIES OR PREEXISTING

03:41 - 05.850 INTEREST COUNCIL.

03:41 - 11.880 >>CLAIM BY THE TRUSTEE IS THAT

03:41 - 13.260 COUNCIL WERE BROUGHT ON

03:41 - 15.710 BECAUSE OF DISPUTES OVER

03:41 - 16.830 ADMINISTRATION OF

03:41 - 20.200 THE TRUST. I CAN'T SAY I CAN'T

03:41 - 22.810 SPEAK FOR THE TRUST ME, I'M A A

03:41 - 24.380 OUR WHY

03:41 - 26.720 THAT OCCURRED AND AGAIN THAT'S

03:41 - 28.650 WHY WE DON'T HAVE THOSE FACTS

03:41 - 31.570 OF RECORD. AS A THERE'S NOTHING

03:41 - 33.310 THAT'S BEEN A CERTAIN HAS RUN

03:41 - 35.750 NEED WORK. THE ATTORNEYS AND

03:41 - 36.840 THE USE OF THE PRIVILEGED

03:41 - 38.490 INFORMATION ON CERTAIN INTO

03:41 - 39.000 BILL.

03:41 - 44.270 >>WELL THANK YOU

03:41 - 46.640 MISTER CAPTAIN. BEFORE WE

03:41 - 47.940 CONCLUDE THEIR WORD

03:41 - 53.850 >>I KNOW I WAS GIVEN 2 MINUTES.

03:41 - 56.770 AGAIN WE'RE GUARDING THE

03:41 - 00.110 MERITS IN 2019 JANUARY OF 2019

03:42 - 01.010 THIS COURT.

03:42 - 03.950 THE COURT'S DECISION KIDS FOR

03:42 - 05.150 HISTORY AND LANDMARKS

03:42 - 06.720 FOUNDATION FOR SUSTAINED WORK.

03:42 - 08.550 THERE'S NO TELLING WHAT KNOW

03:42 - 10.530 WHICH IS A PERFECT PRACTICE FOR

03:42 - 12.230 THIS CHANGE. WELL THERE'S A

03:42 - 14.060 GOOD CASE DO NOT HAVE TALKS TO

03:42 - 15.720 SUPPORT A HOLDING ON THE ISSUE

03:42 - 16.790 OF ID SURE IT'S

03:42 - 19.400 AN EXCEPTION. THIS IF IT RUNS

03:42 - 21.920 WAS MADE TO THE 2002 ALL THE

03:42 - 24.150 PERSONS GIRL, A PROJECTS

03:42 - 26.750 WEDDING. TODAY. THIS COURT HAS

03:42 - 30.160 AN OPPORTUNITY IMPORTANT AND

03:42 - 31.600 AND AS I UNDERSTAND RECURRING

03:42 - 33.450 ISSUE IN INTEREST WELL AND WAS

03:42 - 35.540 FOUND WITH LAW PER COMMON WELL.

03:42 - 36.090 >>THERE

03:42 - 37.020 SHOULD BE.

03:42 - 39.940 >>THIS COURT IS A HUGE PUBLIC

03:42 - 42.300 POLICY CONCERN. THERE IS SOME

03:42 - 43.930 PROTECTION OF GOING TO BE HERE.

03:42 - 46.240 WE SHOULD BE A GREAT CONCERN.

03:42 - 47.450 WE'RE CONTINUING THE

03:42 - 49.940 BUSINESS PRACTICE. AS IS

03:42 - 53.130 REQUESTED THE IN THE IN MAKE

03:42 - 54.600 HISTORY BY THE PENNSYLVANIA.

03:42 - 57.020 BANKERS THEY WANT TO CONTINUE

03:42 - 58.680 BUSINESS AS USUAL THEY DON'T

03:42 - 00.080 WANT NECESSARILY

03:43 - 04.030 TO DISCLOSE. WHO'LL AND BE

03:43 - 05.950 ACCOUNTABLE WORK ALL OF THEIR

03:43 - 07.420 DOINGS AND SO THERE SHOULD BE A

03:43 - 09.660 GREAT CONCERN THAT UNSCRUPULOUS

03:43 - 12.660 ATTORNEYS SCRUPULOUS TRUSTEES.

03:43 - 16.070 A BILL A BILL IN A STATEMENT

03:43 - 16.650 WITH

03:43 - 20.380 PRIVILEGED INFORMATION THERE

03:43 - 22.800 WERE TRYING TO AVOID THIS WAS A

03:43 - 24.650 VILLAIN. THIS COURT HAS AN

03:43 - 26.130 OPPORTUNITY TO DA

03:43 - 27.810 WHEN I SAID MAN IS A LOGICAL

03:43 - 30.180 ONE COMMON SENSE TELL US WHY

03:43 - 30.890 YOU ALWAYS

03:43 - 33.080 THE CASE. IT'S A RATIONAL

03:43 - 35.160 ENCAPSULATED ALREADY BODY.

03:43 - 36.910 RESTATEMENT SECOND BIRD OF

03:43 - 39.560 TRUST. AND WE ARE AT THE

03:43 - 41.880 HEART FROM A FIVE-DAY SHERRY

03:43 - 44.070 EXCEPTION OR DROP FORTRESS AS

03:43 - 45.090 LE PEN'S WILL BANG.

03:43 - 45.940 THANK YOU.

03:43 - 47.520 >>THANK YOU FOR YOUR GAP AND I

03:43 - 49.040 SHOULD ALSO THANK YOU.

03:43 - 51.510 PRESIDENT AND WITH THAT WORLD

03:43 - 52.880 THAT GERMAN COURT.


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