High School Mock Trial Competition with the PA Bar Association Young Lawyers Division at Dauphin County Courthouse in Harrisburg
00:30 - >>WELCOME TO THE PENNSYLVANIA
00:31 - BAR ASSOCIATION YOUNG LAWYER
00:33 - DIVISION MOCK TRIAL STATE
00:34 - FINALS. WE WELCOME YOU HERE TO
00:37 - HARRISBURG PENNSYLVANIA TO THE
00:38 - DOLPHIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE.
00:40 - YOU 2 SHOULD BE PROBLEMS 2
00:41 - TEAMS SHOULD BE
00:42 - PROUD OF ACROSS THE 275 TEAMS
00:45 - THAT BEGAN THIS COMPETITION IN
00:46 - JANUARY. ACTUALLY IN NOVEMBER
00:48 - WHEN THE PROBLEM CAME OUT.
00:50 - YOU ARE THE FINAL 2 REMAINING.
00:52 - IT'S BEEN A GOOD HERE AND IT'S
00:53 - BEEN A LONG JOURNEY FOR YOU TO
00:55 - TEAM THAT WE HAVE YOUNG LAWYERS
00:56 - DIVISION.
00:57 - CONGRATULATIONS, MY NAME IS
00:59 - JOHN THE CALL TO ASH AND THE
01:00 - IMMEDIATE PAST CHAIR OF YOUNG
01:02 - LAWYERS DIVISION WITH THE
01:03 - GOVERNMENT OF KENNY, THE
01:05 - INCOMING CHAIR OF THE YOUNG
01:06 - LAWYERS DIVISION AND MORE
01:07 - IMPORTANT FOR DAY PROCEEDINGS.
01:08 - THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE
01:09 - COMPETITION. BEFORE WE BEGIN I
01:11 - WOULD LIKE TO JUST ON BEHALF OF
01:13 - THE ASSOCIATION. THANK A FEW OF
01:14 - OUR PARTNERS FIRST THE
01:16 - PENNSYLVANIA
01:16 - BAR FOUNDATION WHO GENEROSITY
01:19 - MAKES MAKE MUCH OF THIS
01:21 - WEEKEND POSSIBLE TO THE
01:23 - HONORABLE CAROLYN MCCALL CHAIR
01:25 - US DISTRICT MAGISTRATE JUDGE
01:27 - HERE IN THE MIDDLE DISTRICT OF
01:28 - PENNSYLVANIA. AND MOST NOTABLY
01:29 - ONCE A MOCK TRIAL COACH WHOSE
01:31 - TEAM MADE IT TO THIS ROUTE.
01:33 - SO YOU HAVE A GOOD HAND YOU
01:34 - HAVE A A SERIOUS DEDICATED
01:37 - DOCTOR HOUR ON THE BENCH.
01:39 - THIS YEAR.
01:41 - THE PARENTS THE VOLUNTEERS, THE
01:43 - HUNDREDS OF VOLUNTEERS THAT
01:44 - MAKE THIS COMPETITION RUN.
01:46 - THROUGHOUT THE COMMONWEALTH,
01:47 - THE STUDENTS THE TEACHERS IN
01:49 - THE SCHOOL DISTRICT YOU SHOULD
01:50 - ALL BE VERY PROUD OF ALL THE
01:52 - WORK THAT YOU DO.
01:53 - FOR THOSE WATCHING AT HOME I'LL
01:55 - GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON
01:56 - OUR CASE.
01:57 - THIS CASE IS THE COMMONWEALTH
01:59 - OF PENNSYLVANIA, THE RE
02:00 - SCHAEFER. IT CAN
02:03 - BE UNRELENTING IT CAN DESTROY
02:05 - LIVES AND YET IT LEAVES NO MARK
02:07 - AND IT'S NO OBJECTIVE MEASURE
02:08 - OF ITS EXISTENCE. ONE PERSON
02:11 - CALLS PAIN AND 8 ANOTHER CALLED
02:13 - IT BEFORE WHO IS
02:14 - SUFFERING MORE WHAT LEADS
02:16 - GREATER RELIEF OR LONGER.
02:18 - AT THE FRONT OF THE FRONTIERS
02:19 - OF MEDICINE. DOCTORS AND
02:21 - PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES ONCE
02:22 - THOUGHT THEY HAD
02:23 - AN ANSWER DERIVE FROM THE SAME
02:25 - CHEMISTRY, THE GAME MORPHINE
02:26 - IT'S LIFE CHANGING POWER ON THE
02:27 - BATTLEFIELDS OF ANTIETAM TO
02:29 - NORMANDY OPIATE PAINKILLERS
02:31 - CAME INTO THE SCENE IN THE
02:32 - EARLY 1990'S AND THE DREAM OF
02:34 - THEY'RE ALL JUST AND PAIN
02:35 - MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST SEEMS THE
02:37 - INFORMATION. THE DREAM TODAY
02:39 - HAS BECOME OUR NIGHTMARE.
02:40 - THE BEST ESTIMATES SUGGEST THE
02:42 - OPIATE PAINKILLERS WERE
02:43 - RESPONSIBLE FOR 60,000 DEATHS
02:45 - LAST YEAR ALONE. THIS IS MORE
02:47 - THAN TRAFFIC DEATHS MORE THAN
02:48 - FIREARM DEATHS AND MORE THAN
02:50 - COCAINE AND HEROIN PUT TOGETHER
02:52 - FOR THE PAST
02:53 - 2 DECADES BILLS HAVE NOT HAD
02:55 - THE SAME REPUTATION AS OTHER
02:56 - STREET DRUGS AND THE WIDE
02:57 - AVAILABILITY AND LEGITIMATE
02:59 - USES FOR PAINKILLERS
03:00 - BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO SPREAD
03:02 - ITS FEW OTHER ILLEGAL
03:03 - SUBSTANCES HAVE AS THE OPIATE
03:05 - EPIDEMIC IS A WIDE RANGING AS
03:07 - IT IS DEVASTATING RURAL AREAS
03:09 - ARE HIT JUST AS HARD IN THE
03:10 - INNER CITIES. TODAY IS THE
03:12 - COMMUNITIES COME UNDER SIEGE.
03:14 - THIS YEAR'S CASE TAKES PLACE IN
03:16 - THE BLEEDING EDGE OF THE OPIATE
03:18 - CRISIS IN THIS COUNTRY.
03:19 - HADLEY MCADOO A BELOVED MEMBER
03:21 - OF THE WHISTLE WE PENNSYLVANIA
03:22 - COMMUNITY HAS DIED ON THE EXAM
03:24 - ROOM TABLE AT THE OFFICE OF
03:26 - SCHAEFER A LOCAL PAIN
03:28 - MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST THAT
03:29 - CAUSE OF DEATH THE EMPTY
03:31 - SYRINGE OF HYDRA MORPHINE A
03:33 - POTENT OR OUT THE CAR CAUGHT
03:35 - IT, MIXED WITH XANAX
03:37 - ALREADY AND THAT IS BLOCKED THE
03:39 - QUESTION FOR TRIAL ARISES
03:41 - SCHAEFER IT MINISTRY SHAPERS
03:43 - ADMINISTRATION OF THE
03:44 - PAINKILLER AN ACT OF MERCY TO A
03:46 - LOCAL HERO IN CRIPPLING PAIN OR
03:48 - WAS IT A CRIMINAL ACT OF A
03:49 - DOCTOR DRIVEN TO DESPERATION BY
03:51 - FINANCIAL RUIN. FAR BEYOND THE
03:53 - BOUNDS OF ACCEPTABLE MEDICINE
03:54 - IN A WORLD WHICH HAD
03:56 - AT LAST RECOGNIZE THE RIGHT NOW
03:58 - IS THE DANGERS POSED BY THE
03:59 - OPIUM.
04:00 - THE COMMONWEALTH CALL 3
04:02 - WITNESSES TO PROVE
04:03 - THEIR CASE FRANKIE'S ALL A
04:05 - NURSE PRACTITIONER WHO OBSERVE
04:06 - SHAPERS PRACTICE IT FIRSTHAND
04:08 - JJ TO A LOCAL BUSINESS PERSON
04:10 - AND FRIEND OF HAVING MCADOO AND
04:12 - WHILE COPELAND,
04:13 - A DIVERSION INVESTIGATOR FOR
04:14 - THE UNITED STATES DRUG
04:15 - ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION.
04:17 - SHAME RESPONDS IN HIS OR HER
04:19 - OWN DEFENSE AND CALLS AN EXPERT
04:21 - OF HIS OR HER OWN
04:22 - RE HEIGHT AND ONE OF BACK OF
04:24 - HIS CLOSEST FRIENDS
04:24 - INCOMPETENCE SOW ABBOTT TRIAL
04:27 - IT IS ABOUT TO BEGIN. YOU MAY
04:29 - BRING THE JURY ARE NOT
04:30 - AVAILABLE.
05:15 - >>WELCOME
05:15 - TO TODAY'S FINAL ROUND OF THIS
05:19 - MIKE TROUT COMPETITION.
05:22 - >>VERY EXCITING PRESIDE OVER
05:24 - THIS TODAY. AND I AM AND.
05:28 - YOU ALL SHOULD BE SO PROUD TO
05:29 - HAVE TO BE HERE.
05:32 - THIS IS GOING TO BE A EXCITING
05:34 - ROUND. AND IT SHOULD BE FUN
05:36 - TOO. AND THIS IS A DAY
05:38 - THE EXPERIENCE THAT IS TO HELP
05:40 - YOU GET A GREATER UNDERSTANDING
05:42 - OF OUR GREAT LEGAL SYSTEM
05:44 - WHICH.
05:47 - TRULY BELIEVE IS THE BEST WE
05:48 - HAVE IN THIS WORLD SAID THANK
05:50 - YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS
05:51 - TODAY. I WANT TO START
05:53 - BY THERE
05:53 - AND FIRST WE YOU CAN AND IF YOU
05:55 - HAVE SEEN I HAVE THE TEAMS THAT
05:56 - ARE HERE TODAY.
05:58 - AND THEN ASK YOU TO BRIEFLY
06:00 - INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND WHERE
06:01 - YOU'RE FROM.
06:04 - >>BUT IT IS JOE HAS THE BAR
06:08 - ASSOCIATION. AND CIVIL
06:10 - LITIGATOR THAT
06:18 - >>LITIGATION LAW FIRM AND
06:26 - >>WHERE ALL THAT'S THE NATION.
06:59 - PART OF THE LAW FIRM WILLIAMS
07:00 - AND 3 BIRDIES JONES.
07:02 - >>IN POTTSVILLE PENNSYLVANIA.
07:03 - AND ALSO YOUR MEMBER OF THE
07:05 - PENNSYLVANIA BAR FOUNDATION,
07:07 - WHICH IS ONE OF THE FINANCIAL
07:09 - SPONSORS OF THESE WERE
07:13 - >>GOOD MORNING. I'M JUST DON'T
07:15 - YOUNG AND THE JUDGE OF THE
07:17 - COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF THE
07:18 - FIRST EDITION MISTER PRESIDENT.
07:23 - >>MY NAME IS LISA ON THE FAMILY
07:25 - COURT ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE
07:26 - 23TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT AND
07:28 - ARBOR SAYS HAITIANS, MIKE TROUT
07:30 - ORDINATOR.
07:32 - >>THE MORNING WHEN SHE AND
07:36 - LITIGATOR AND HERES FOR FRONT
07:38 - THE PHILADELPHIA FOR IT
07:39 - GENERAL COUNSEL TO THE GOVERNOR
07:41 - AND GENERAL COUNSEL HAS SCHOOL.
07:44 - >>THE
07:45 - U K.
07:48 - >>AT THIS
07:48 - TIME I'M GOING ASK EVERYONE TO
07:50 - VERIFY THAT YOUR PHONES AND ANY
07:51 - OTHER ELECTRONIC DEVICES HAVE
07:53 - BEEN SHOT OR SILENCED.
07:55 - AND IT MUST USE ONE OF YOUR
07:57 - ELECTRONIC DEVICES THESE LEAVE
07:59 - THE COURTROOM TO DEUCE OUT.
08:03 - PLEASE ALSO TRYING TO LIMIT THE
08:04 - NUMBER OF TIME AND SAY YOU
08:05 - ENTER AND EXIT THE COURTROOM AS
08:07 - IT DOES DISRUPT
08:08 - THE PROCEEDINGS. I ONLY DO SO
08:10 - IF YOU HAVE TO TRY TO LIMIT
08:12 - THOSE INTERRUPTIONS TO BREAKS
08:14 - WHEN YOU NEED HIM.
08:17 - AT THIS TIME WE ASKED THE
08:18 - TEAM'S INTRODUCE THEIR PURCHASE
08:20 - PAIN MEMBERS BY NAME AND ROLL
08:22 - THAT PLEASE I WANT TO REMIND
08:23 - YOU DO NOT IDENTIFY OR GENE.
08:25 - SO STARTING WITH THE
08:25 - PROSECUTION.
08:27 - >>MORNING YOUR HONOR WHEN HE
08:29 - WAS IN THE SINAI I'LL BE
08:30 - PERFORMING THE OPENING
08:31 - STATEMENT, THE DIRECT
08:32 - EXAMINATION OF J J T VA AND THE
08:34 - CROSS EXAMINATION OF RACIAL
08:36 - FRONT.
08:37 - >>GOOD MORNING, YOUR HONOR MY
08:38 - NAME IS TRUE IN SPIRIT I'LL BE
08:40 - PERFORMING THE DIRECT
08:41 - EXAMINATION OF AGENT ROYAL
08:42 - COPELAND AND THE CROSS
08:43 - EXAMINATION OF DOCTOR WRITE IT.
08:46 - GOOD MORNING, YOUR HONOR MY
08:47 - NAME IS CLOSE BUT FRANK I'LL BE
08:49 - PERFORMING THE DIRECT
08:50 - EXAMINATION OF FRIEND KELSEY.
08:52 - >>THE CROSS EXAMINATION OF CELL
08:53 - AT IT AND THE CLOSING ARGUMENT.
09:11 - >>WE'RE ALSO JOINED BY A
09:12 - TIMEKEEPER GOOD MORNING AND
09:14 - THANK YOU.
09:18 - >>THE THERE ARE ITEMS OF R B I
09:20 - WOULD REX OUT OF IT AND COST
09:22 - AND KELSEY ON WITH GIVE THE
09:23 - CLOSING ARGUMENTS.
09:24 - >>THE MORNING WHEN THERE'S
09:26 - NICHOLS KLEIN NOW BE DOING THE
09:27 - DIRECT EXAMINATION OF DOCTOR I
09:29 - HATE AND THE CROSS EXAMINATION
09:30 - OF OIL
09:31 - COAL PLANT.
09:32 - >>GOOD MORNING ON IN BE
09:34 - DELIVERING OPENING STATEMENT,
09:36 - DIRECTING RE SCHAFFER AND
09:37 - CROSSING J J T THAT.
09:56 - >>BECAUSE OF THIS TIME THAT HE
09:58 - I'LL PROVIDE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY
09:59 - AT THE FIRST BREAK TO VERIFY
10:01 - THAT YOU
10:01 - ARE WITHIN 15 SECONDS OF EACH
10:03 - OTHER IN TERRY PROBLEMS BE
10:05 - SHARING THAT CHECK THAT POINT.
10:08 - IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE
10:10 - NEED TO DO BEFORE UNITED
10:11 - PARTY'S ANY PERCEIVED AT THIS
10:12 - TIME.
10:14 - >>HAVE A FEW BRIEF ENCOUNTERS
10:16 - THAT WE ASK YOUR PERMISSION TO
10:17 - MOVE FREELY ABOUT THE WELL.
10:19 - I HAVE NO PROBLEM
10:19 - WITH THAT AND THE LIKES OF HER
10:21 - FRIENDS FOR APPROACHING
10:22 - WITNESSES AND OPPOSING COUNSEL
10:23 - TABLE. I'M SORRY WE ASKED ARE
10:26 - ON PREFERENCES FOR POACHING
10:27 - WITNESSES AND OPPOSING COUNSEL
10:28 - TABLE.
10:29 - >>I MEAN YOU CAN I KNOW PROM
10:31 - WITH THE APPROACHING WHEN IT'S
10:31 - WHEN IT'S TIME.
10:34 - WHEN IT'S
10:34 - APPROPRIATE AND DURING
10:35 - QUESTIONING SO THAT'S THAT'S
10:37 - FIRE TO EXTRA INNINGS AND IT IS
10:38 - SOMETHING LIKE THAT I
10:39 - APPRECIATE THAT AND THE SAME
10:40 - WITH PROVIDING ANYTHING THE
10:41 - COUNCIL TABLE. YOU'RE NOT YOU
10:43 - DON'T HAVE TO ASK EVERY TIME.
10:44 - >>YES, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO
10:46 - VOTE RULES OF COMPETITION,
10:47 - 4.7 WHICH STATES THAT ALL
10:49 - WITNESSES ARE CONSTRUCTIVELY
10:50 - SEQUESTERED WITH THE EXCEPTION
10:52 - OF PARTY REPRESENTATIVES.
10:53 - >>ANY OBJECTION TO THAT.
10:57 - THAT THAT THE COMMONWEALTH'S
10:58 - ATTORNEY FOR SEAT, YOU MAY
11:00 - PROCEED.
11:13 - >>MY NAME IS EVA SINAI AND
11:14 - ALONG WITH MY CO-COUNSEL THEY
11:16 - REPRESENT THE COMMONWEALTH OF
11:17 - PENNSYLVANIA.
11:18 - >>WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PROVE TO
11:20 - THE DEFENDANT DOCTOR
11:21 - RAY SCHIEFFER IS GUILTY OF DRUG
11:24 - DELIVERY RESULTING IN THE DEATH
11:25 - OF HOW THE MCADOO WE'RE GOING
11:28 - TO SHOW TO THE DEFENDANT WAS A
11:29 - DOCTOR WAS UNDER TOO MUCH
11:31 - PRESSURE PRESCRIBING TOO MANY
11:33 - OPIOIDS AND TAKING TOO FEW
11:35 - PRECAUTIONS. OUR STORY BEGINS
11:38 - WITH A DIFFERENT.
11:39 - A DOCTOR WHO OPENED UP THE PAIN
11:41 - TREATMENT CLINIC CALLED PAIN
11:42 - AWAY AND IT WAS WEAK AND
11:43 - SYLVANIA IN 2010. ORIGINALLY
11:46 - DESIGNED TO PROVIDE THE MEMBERS
11:48 - OF THE SMALL TOWN BUT THE
11:49 - HOLISTIC METHOD TO TREATING
11:50 - PAIN. THE CLINIC QUICKLY LOST
11:52 - ITS FOOTING DO THAT
11:53 - CATASTROPHIC FLOOD DAMAGE.
11:55 - AS A RESULT, THE DEFENDANT
11:57 - DEVELOPED A RECKLESS PERSONAL
11:58 - HABITS AND OVERPRESCRIBING
12:00 - OPIOIDS. IN
12:03 - 2014. THE DEFENDANT BEGAN
12:04 - TREATING A WOMAN DIDN'T HAVE
12:06 - THE BACK AT YOU COMMONLY
12:07 - REFERRED TO AS COACH. THE
12:09 - DEFENDANT WAS PRESCRIBING THE
12:10 - HIGHLY ADDICTIVE OXYCODONE TO
12:12 - COACH MCADOO FOR NEARLY 3
12:14 - YEARS. ON DECEMBER,
12:17 - 1620 16. THE DEFENDANT GAVE
12:19 - COACH MCADOO A STRONG SHOT OF
12:21 - HYDROMORPHONE WITHOUT TAKING
12:23 - THE TIME TO CHECK AND SEE WHAT
12:25 - OTHER MEDICATIONS SHE MIGHT BE
12:26 - ON.
12:28 - COACH MCADOO WAS FOUND DEAD IN
12:30 - HER HOME. IT
12:31 - IS STIPULATED THAT SHE WAS
12:33 - KILLED BY A COMBINATION OF
12:34 - OPIOIDS SHE'S RECEIVING THE
12:36 - DEFENDANT AND XANAX.
12:39 - NOW AS THE COMMONWEALTH WE HAVE
12:40 - THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO DATE
12:42 - WHICH MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO
12:43 - PROVE TO YOU BEYOND A
12:44 - REASONABLE DOUBT THE DEFENDANT
12:45 - IS GUILTY. IF AT THE END OF
12:47 - STAGE TRIAL. YOU FIND THAT
12:49 - EITHER THE DEFENDANT DID NOT
12:51 - ACT IN GOOD FAITH
12:52 - OR THAT SHE FAILED TO ACT IN
12:54 - ACCORDANCE WITH TREATMENT
12:55 - PRINCIPLES ACCEPTED BY
12:56 - RESPONSIBLE SEGMENT OF THE
12:57 - MEDICAL PROFESSION. YOU MUST
12:59 - FIND HER GUILTY. ONLY ONE OF
13:01 - THESE IS NEEDED FOR CONVICTION.
13:04 - NOW A RESPONSIBLE SEGMENT OF
13:05 - THE MEDICAL PROFESSION DOES NOT
13:07 - MEAN EVERY LICENSED DOCTOR.
13:09 - IT JUST MEANS THAT GOOD
13:10 - JUDGE AND DOCTORS WOULDN'T
13:12 - AGREE WITH THE DEFENDANT'S
13:13 - ACTIONS.
13:15 - WE'RE GOING TO CALL 3 WITNESSES
13:16 - BEFORE
13:16 - YOU TODAY WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND
13:18 - KELSEY NURSE PRACTITIONER PAIN
13:20 - WEIGHT WHO WILL TELL YOU HOW IN
13:22 - THE CLINIC HAD FINANCIAL
13:23 - TROUBLES. THE DEFENDANT BEGAN
13:24 - PRESCRIBING MORE AND MORE
13:26 - OPIOIDS AND THE VERY SAME TOWN
13:28 - WHERE SHE WAS ONCE PRACTICED A
13:29 - HOLISTIC LEE. AT THE
13:31 - SAME TIME THE DEFENDANT WAS
13:32 - SPENDING LESS AND LESS TIME
13:34 - WITH HER PATIENTS.
13:37 - THERE'S YOUR FROM J J T THAT
13:38 - THEY CAN PLAY IN CONCERT WITH A
13:40 - DEPENDENT. WE'LL TELL YOU HOW
13:41 - THE DEFENDANT'S MENTAL STATE
13:43 - WAS DRAMATICALLY AFFECTED BY
13:44 - THE DA PAUL P LIGHT AND ASHLEY
13:46 - BEGAN DRINKING. MISTER TITO
13:48 - WILL ALSO TELL YOU. COACH MACK
13:50 - AND HIS MENTAL HEALTH WAS
13:51 - VISIBLY DECLINING. HE TRIED TO
13:54 - WARN THE DEFENSE AND UP THIS HE
13:55 - RECEIVED NO RESPONSE.
13:58 - IT WAS YOUR SUNDAY, A
14:00 - SPECIAL AGENT IN OUR COMICS
14:01 - INVESTIGATOR WILL COPE WITH IT.
14:03 - AGENT COPELAND WILL TESTIFY TO
14:05 - THE RED FLAGS HE FOUND IN
14:06 - HIS INVESTIGATION, INCLUDING
14:08 - HELPING LAY SKYROCKETED ABOVE
14:10 - THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. BOTH IN
14:12 - THEIR OPIOID PRESCRIPTION RATES
14:14 - AND THE POTENCY OF THESE
14:15 - PRESCRIPTIONS. ASIAN CUP AND
14:18 - ALSO TELL YOU HOW THE DEFENDANT
14:19 - COULD AND SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THE
14:22 - COACH MCADOO WAS TAKING XANAX
14:24 - THE DEFENDANT COULD HAVE
14:25 - LEARNED THE SIMPLE FACT BUT
14:27 - MINISTER IN A URINE TEST OR BY
14:29 - CHECKING THE DATABASE IS
14:30 - SUCCESSFUL TO ALL PENNSYLVANIA
14:32 - DOCTORS. THE DEFENDANT DID
14:35 - NEITHER.
14:36 - NOW THE DEFENSE ALSO CALLED
14:38 - THROUGH AN ASSIST TODAY.
14:39 - BUT IF YOU LISTEN CLOSELY TO
14:41 - THE TESTIMONY. YOU'LL HEAR THAT
14:42 - THEY TO PAINT A PICTURE OF A
14:44 - DOCTOR WHO'S UNDER TOO MUCH
14:45 - PRESSURE PRESCRIBING TOO MANY
14:47 - OPIOIDS AND TAKING TOO FEW
14:50 - PRECAUTIONS.
14:52 - AFTER HEARING THE FACTS OF
14:53 - STATE'S CASE. IT WILL BE CLEAR
14:55 - THAT WE WILL HAVE MET OUR
14:56 - VERDICT AND SHOW TO DEFEND IT
14:58 - DID NOT ACT IN GOOD FAITH THAT
15:00 - SHE DID NOT ACT ACCORDANCE WITH
15:02 - TREATMENT PRINCIPLES ACCEPTED
15:04 - BY RESPONSIBLE SEGMENT OF THE
15:05 - MEDICAL PROFESSION.
15:09 - WAS UNDER TOO MUCH PRESSURE
15:10 - BETWEEN THE BANKRUPTCY OF HER
15:11 - CLINIC AND A MEDICAL
15:12 - MALPRACTICE SUIT. THE DEFENDANT
15:15 - WAS A DOCTOR WHO IS PRESCRIBING
15:16 - TOO MANY OPIOIDS YOU'LL HEAR
15:19 - HOW HER PRESCRIPTION RATES
15:20 - STARTED AROUND 10% BUT CLIMBED
15:23 - TO OVER 80%. THE DEFENDANT WAS
15:27 - A DOCTOR WHO IS TAKING TOO
15:29 - FEW PRECAUTIONS. SHE NEVER USE
15:31 - YOUR TESTING AT HER CLINIC.
15:33 - SHE FAILED TO CHECK
15:34 - THE DATABASE AND SHE DIDN'T
15:36 - EVEN ASK COACH MCADOO WHETHER
15:37 - SHE WAS TAKING XANAX.
15:40 - AT THE CONCLUSION OF TODAY'S
15:41 - TRIAL COUNCIL POLICE
15:43 - MET FRANK WILL COME BEFORE YOU
15:45 - AND ASK THAT YOU FIND IN FAVOR
15:46 - OF THE COMMONWEALTH AND FINE
15:48 - DOCTOR RAY SCHIEFFER GUILTY
15:50 - OF DRUG DELIVERY RESULTING IN
15:52 - THE DEATH OF HOW THE MCADOO
15:54 - THANK YOU.
16:08 - >>THE PROCEED.
16:18 - MAY IT PLEASE
16:18 - THE COURT OPPOSING COUNSEL
16:21 - MEMBERS OF THE JURY. WHEN
16:23 - FIREFIGHTERS RACE INTO A
16:24 - BURNING BUILDING. THEY USE
16:26 - THEIR TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE
16:28 - TO ASSESS THE SITUATION AND
16:30 - THEY FORM THE BEST JUDGMENT ON
16:31 - HOW TO PROCEED.
16:34 - PATROL STREETS AND FOREIGN
16:35 - COMBAT ZONES, THEY USE THEIR
16:37 - TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE TO
16:40 - ASSESS THE SITUATION AND THEY
16:42 - FORM THEIR BEST JUDGMENT ON HOW
16:43 - TO PROCEED.
16:46 - ENCOUNTER DANGEROUS FLYING
16:47 - CONDITIONS. THEY USE THEIR
16:49 - TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE TO
16:51 - ASSESS THE SITUATION AND THEY
16:53 - FORM THEIR BEST JUDGMENT ON HOW
16:54 - TO PROCEED. ON
16:56 - DECEMBER, 1620 16. DOCTOR A
16:59 - SHIP WAS FACED WITH A
17:00 - DIFFICULT SITUATION. USING HER
17:03 - MEDICAL TRAINING
17:04 - AND EXPERIENCE SHE ATTEMPTED TO
17:06 - RELIEVE HER PATIENTS PAIN.
17:09 - WAS COMPASSION
17:10 - HEARD JUDGMENT WAS CONSISTENT
17:13 - WITH THE STANDARDS SET BY HER
17:14 - MEDICAL PROFESSION. BECAUSE THE
17:16 - ULTIMATE OUTCOME WAS
17:18 - UNFORTUNATE. THE PROSECUTION
17:20 - HAS CHARGED. SCHAEFER WITH A
17:22 - CRIME.
17:24 - GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS OF THE
17:25 - JURY MY NAME IS LAURA PALMER.
17:27 - >>I ALONG WITH MY CO-COUNSEL
17:28 - NICHOLAS CLIMB, MILITANT R B
17:30 - REPRESENT THE DEFENDANT
17:31 - TONIGHT'S CASE. DOCTOR A SHAPE.
17:35 - THE PROSECUTION BEARS THE
17:37 - BURDEN OF PROVING THEIR CASE TO
17:38 - YOU BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT,
17:40 - THIS MEANS THE MUST PROVE
17:41 - BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, BUT
17:42 - ON DECEMBER 16TH,
17:44 - 2016. DOCTOR A SHAPER EITHER
17:46 - FAIL TO ACT IN GOOD FAITH
17:48 - OR FAIL TO ACT AND ACCORDING TO
17:50 - THE TREATMENT PRINCIPLES
17:51 - ACCEPTED BY RESPONSIBLE SEGMENT
17:53 - OF THE MEDICAL PROFESSION.
17:54 - THAT MEMBERS OF THE JURY.
17:56 - DO NOT JUDGE MY TIME WITH THE
17:58 - BENEFIT OF HINDSIGHT. JUDGE
18:00 - DOCTOR SAFER AND THE
18:01 - CIRCUMSTANCES THAT EXISTED WITH
18:03 - HER ENCOUNTER WITH COACH HAVING
18:05 - MCADOO ON THE AFTERNOON OF
18:06 - DECEMBER 16TH, 2016.
18:10 - THERE'S NO BURDEN OF PROOF
18:11 - TONIGHT AND THE DEFENSE
18:13 - DOES NOT NEED TO CALL A SINGLE
18:15 - WITNESS TO THE STAND. BUT.
18:18 - WE INTEND TO CALL 3 WITNESSES
18:19 - TO PROVE TO YOU. MEMBERS OF
18:21 - THE JURY THAT DOCTOR SHAFER
18:23 - ACTED IN BOTH
18:24 - GOOD FAITH AND WITHIN THE
18:26 - TREATMENT PRINCIPLES EXCEPT
18:27 - ABOUT RESPONSIBLE SEGMENT OF
18:29 - THE MEDICAL PROFESSION. OUR
18:31 - FIRST WIN TONIGHT AS
18:33 - SCHAEFER SHE WOULD TELL YOU
18:34 - ABOUT HER EXTENSIVE EDUCATION
18:36 - AND TRAINING TO BECOME A
18:38 - PHYSICIAN SPECIALIZING IN PAIN
18:39 - MANAGEMENT. DOCTOR SHAFER WILL
18:41 - TELL YOU THAT YOU OPENED A
18:42 - CLINIC CALLED PAIN WAY HERE IN
18:44 - WHICH THE 2010. AND SHE WILL
18:46 - TELL YOU THAT COACH HEAVY
18:47 - MCADOO A 73 YEAR-OLD WHO SUFFER
18:50 - FROM CHRONIC AND AT TIMES THE
18:52 - BELLA TAKING PAIN BECAME HER
18:54 - PATIENT 2014. DOCTOR SHAFER
18:58 - TELL YOU THE ON THE AFTERNOON
18:59 - OF DECEMBER 16TH, 2016.
19:02 - THE COACH SHOWED UP AT HER
19:04 - OFFICE SHOWING SIGNS OF EXTREME
19:06 - PAIN. I ASK YOU
19:09 - TO PAY CLOSE
19:11 - ATTENTION. THE TESTIMONY ABOUT
19:13 - COACHES. PRESENTATION ON THIS
19:16 - DAY.
19:17 - UNFORTUNATELY COACH NOT PROVIDE
19:19 - ACCURATE INFORMATION DOCTOR
19:20 - SHAFER WHEN ASKED WHAT AT A
19:22 - MEDICATION SHE
19:23 - WAS TAKING. COACH FAIL TO SAY
19:25 - THAT SHE WAS TAKING XANAX THE
19:27 - FACE WITH A PATIENT IN EXTREME
19:29 - AGONY. AND NOT
19:31 - KNOWING THAT THAT PATIENT HAD
19:32 - BREACHED THE TRUST RELATIONSHIP
19:34 - WITH HER PHYSICIAN. DOCTOR
19:36 - SHAFER HUGE MEDICAL TRAINING
19:38 - AND EXPERIENCE IN MINISTERING
19:39 - PAIN RELIEF MEDICATION. OUR
19:42 - SECOND ONE IS TONIGHT IS
19:43 - MISSILE AT IT, SHE'S PAID TO
19:44 - HIS ACCOUNTANT SHE WAS TIED UP
19:46 - BY 2016. ANY FINANCIAL PROBLEMS
19:49 - CITED BY THE PROSECUTION.
19:53 - BUT WAS ALSO VERY
19:54 - CLOSE FRIEND. COACH
19:55 - HAVING ACTED AND SHE REALLY
19:57 - SOME INTERESTING OBSERVATION
19:58 - SHE MADE ABOUT COACH. SHORTLY
20:00 - BEFORE HER DEATH. AND OUR
20:02 - 3RD WIN TONIGHT. THE DEFENSE
20:04 - EXPERT DOCTOR BY HATE.
20:09 - THE DEFENDANT HERSELF.
20:11 - DOCTOR RAY SHAPER AND THE
20:13 - DEFENSE EXPERT DOCTOR RIGHT HEY
20:16 - ARE THE ONLY 2 DOCTORS THAT
20:18 - WOULD TESTIFY BEFORE YOU
20:19 - TONIGHT. AND
20:20 - DOCTOR HE WOULD LATER TELL YOU
20:21 - THAT DOCTOR SCHAEFER'S JUDGMENT
20:23 - AND ACTIONS. ON DECEMBER
20:25 - 16TH 2016. WE'RE FULLY WITHIN
20:28 - THE TREATMENT PRINCIPLES EXCEPT
20:29 - THE VIRUS POSSIBLE SEGMENT.
20:31 - THE MEDICAL PROFESSION.
20:40 - >>THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING
20:41 - COACH MCADOO STACKED.
20:46 - WHAT
20:46 - THE CIRCUMSTANCES TELL YOU
20:48 - ABOUT HER DEATH.
20:50 - THAT CONCLUSION OF THIS CASE MY
20:51 - CO-COUNSEL ELIZABETH R B.
20:53 - WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
20:54 - PRESENT A CLOSING ARGUMENT TO
20:56 - YOU AND SHE WOULD TELL YOU AS I
20:58 - WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW AT THE
20:59 - PROSECUTION'S CASE IS PLATE
21:02 - WITH A REASONABLE DOUBT AND
21:04 - DOCTOR SHAFER WAS UNFAIRLY
21:05 - TARGETED.
21:08 - WE ASK YOU TO FIND THIS
21:09 - POSITION THE USE OF MEDICAL
21:10 - TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE, NOT
21:13 - GUILTY OF THE CHARGE AGAINST
21:14 - HER. THANK YOU.
21:33 - >>THE PROSECUTION OR A PROCEED.
21:36 - A LOST CAUSE FRIEND KELSEY TOOK
21:38 - THE STAND.
21:50 - >>THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO
21:52 - GIVE WILL BE FAITHFULLY IN
21:53 - TRUTHFULLY AND IN ACCORDANCE
21:55 - WITH THE RULES LOOK TRIAL
21:56 - COMPETITION.
22:12 - THEY PROCEED YOUR HONOR
22:13 - YOU MAKE. GOOD MORNING THIS
22:15 - KELSEY GOOD MORNING. HE PLEASE
22:17 - INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE
22:18 - MEMBERS OF THE JURY AND FRAN
22:20 - KELSEY I WAS THE NURSE
22:21 - PRACTITIONER PAIN AWAY, DOCTOR
22:23 - SHAPERS PAIN MANAGEMENT CLINIC.
22:25 - HOW DID YOU COME TO BEGIN
22:26 - WORKING AT PAIN AWAY. I'M A
22:28 - DOCTOR SHE FRONT I
22:30 - WAS FINISHING MY MASTER'S OF
22:31 - SCIENCE IN NURSING AND SHE WAS
22:32 - FINISHING
22:32 - HER RESIDENCY, SHE CAME TO ME
22:34 - WITH AN IDEA FOR A NEW TYPE OF
22:36 - CLINIC. ONE FOCUSED ON
22:37 - EASTERN MEDICINE. WHAT WAS THE
22:39 - BUSINESS LIKE WHEN YOU FIRST
22:41 - BEGAN WORKING THERE AT FIRST
22:43 - THINGS ARE QUIET. IT WAS JUST
22:44 - DOCTOR SHAFER AN EYE AN OLD CAR
22:46 - DEALERSHIP RIGHT OF WAS WE
22:48 - TRYING TO SAVE THE WORLD ONE
22:49 - PATIENT A TIME. WE
22:51 - BELIEVED THAT A HEALTHY MIND
22:53 - COULD HELP COST TO HEALTHY
22:55 - BODY. SO WE DIDN'T RUN IN THE
22:56 - URINE TESTS. DID
22:58 - THE BUSINESS EXPANDED ANY POINT
23:00 - WHILE YOU WORK THERE. YES,
23:02 - WE KEPT GETTING MORE PATIENTS
23:03 - WE DECIDED TO EXPAND TO A
23:05 - LARGER SPACE TO BETTER
23:06 - ACCOMMODATE OUR PATIENTS.
23:07 - HOW DID THAT EXPANSION
23:08 - GOMIS KELSEY THINGS IN THE NEW
23:10 - SPACE WENT WELL AT FIRST BUT
23:12 - THEN THE FAMOUS NASCAR DRIVER
23:15 - DANICA FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST
23:17 - THE PRACTICE.
23:18 - AND SUPERSTORM SANDY ABSOLUTELY
23:21 - DEVASTATED PRACTICE. WHAT
23:24 - HAPPENED WAS PAIN AWAY AFTER
23:25 - THAT.
23:28 - DOCTOR SHAFER REALIZE THAT WE
23:30 - DIDN'T HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE SO
23:32 - SHE WAS FORCED TO DECLARE
23:33 - BANKRUPTCY IN CLOSE THE CLINIC.
23:35 - DID YOU EVER WORK WITH THE
23:35 - DEFENDANT AGAIN. YES, ABOUT
23:38 - HALF A YEAR AFTER PAIN AWAY
23:39 - CLOSED. DOCTOR SHAFER CALLED ME
23:41 - AND SAID THAT SHE WANTED TO
23:43 - OPEN PAIN AWAY AGAIN. IT
23:45 - COULDN'T BE LIKE IT WAS BEFORE.
23:47 - AND IT WASN'T. WE STARTED
23:49 - SEEING MORE PATIENTS FOR
23:50 - SHORTER TIMES. DOCTOR SHAFER
23:52 - STARTED PRESCRIBE THE MORE
23:53 - OPIOIDS AND OUR PATIENTS
23:55 - STARTED PAYING IN CASH. BUT WE
23:57 - STILL DIDN'T DO ANY URINE
23:58 - TESTING.
23:59 - THIS CALL SAID LIKE TO ASK YOU
24:01 - A FEW QUESTIONS RELATING TO
24:03 - GENERAL MEDICAL PRACTICE
24:04 - ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE
24:05 - PRESCRIPTION DRUG MONITORING
24:07 - PROGRAM. YES, THE PRESCRIPTION
24:09 - DRUG MONITORING PROGRAM.
24:10 - FOR THE PMP IS A DATABASE
24:12 - WHICH ALLOWS DOCTORS TO SUE
24:14 - PRESCRIPTIONS THAT PATIENTS ARE
24:15 - WRONG. ALL RIGHT.
24:17 - NOW MISS KELSEY WHILE YOU WORK
24:19 - TO PAY NO WAY DID YOU HAVE
24:20 - OCCASION TO INTERACT WITH
24:21 - HADLEY MCADOO I DID HAVE THE
24:23 - MCCABE WERE COACHES MOST OF US
24:25 - IN YOUR CALDER CAME IN OF
24:27 - JANUARY OF 2014. SHE CLAIMS SHE
24:30 - WAS SUFFERING FROM CHRONIC
24:31 - PAIN. DOCTOR SHAFER VAN A
24:33 - SERIES OF C T SCANS AND X-RAYS
24:35 - BUT FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF MUSTER
24:36 - TENDON DAMAGE. SHE
24:38 - DETERMINED COACH TO BE
24:39 - SUFFERING FROM CHRONIC EYE.
24:41 - PHANTOM PAIN INTO KNOWLEDGE
24:43 - MUST KELSEY HOW DID THE
24:44 - DEFENDANT TREAT THIS PHANTOM
24:46 - PAIN. DOCTOR SHAFER VOTE CROAK
24:48 - COACH, A SCRIPT FOR HUNDREDS OF
24:50 - DOSES OF OXYCODONE AND.
24:53 - COACH WAS ALWAYS AROUND.
24:56 - EVEN SAW COACH GIVING
24:58 - DOCTOR SHAFER A LOT OF $100
25:00 - BILLS.
25:02 - MORE PREJUDICIAL THAN PROBATIVE
25:03 - THE SITUATION WHICH NURSE
25:04 - KELSEY IS
25:05 - LYING TO IS AN ALLEGED EVENT IN
25:07 - WHICH DOCTOR SHAFER AND COACH
25:08 - MCADOO ARE OUTSIDE OF THE PAIN
25:10 - OF THE CLINIC THERE FOR NOT
25:11 - REFERENCING.
25:12 - >>ANYTHING TO THE DAY IN
25:13 - QUESTION TO SOME
25:14 - DECEMBER 16. ALSO THIS IS AN
25:16 - ELECTION THAT NOBODY IS ABLE TO
25:18 - TESTIFY TO THE EXACT AMOUNT OF
25:19 - MONEY THAT WAS IN THIS A LOT OF
25:21 - CASH HAS ALSO MORE PREJUDICIAL
25:22 - BECAUSE IT IS IN FORCING A
25:24 - DIFFERENT IMAGE IN THE MINDS OF
25:25 - THE JURY SAYING THAT THIS WAS
25:26 - SOME OF THE LEGAL ACTION
25:27 - HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF PAIN WAY
25:29 - THEREFORE ITS MORE PREJUDICIAL
25:30 - AND IRRELEVANT. GOT TO FIND
25:32 - THEY MISS KELSEY IS NOT SHOWING
25:33 - ANY LEGAL CONCLUSION AS TO THE
25:35 - EXCHANGE OF THIS MONEY.
25:37 - >>IN ADDITION, THE PROBATIVE
25:38 - VALUE OF MISS KELSEY VISION OF
25:41 - THIS EXCHANGE
25:42 - SUBSTANTIALLY OUTWEIGHS ANY
25:43 - PREJUDICE MIGHT CAUSE THE JURY.
25:45 - ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THE
25:46 - COMMONWEALTH HAS TO PROVE TODAY
25:48 - IS AN ABSENCE OF GOOD FACE.
25:50 - AND THE INTERACTIONS, A DOCTOR
25:52 - HAS WITH THEIR PATIENTS WHILE
25:54 - TREATING THEM GOES DIRECTLY TO
25:56 - THE FACE OF THE DOCTOR DURING
25:57 - THAT TREATMENT ADDITIONALLY AS
25:59 - MISS KELSEY PREVIOUSLY
26:00 - TESTIFIED MORE AND MORE
26:01 - PATIENTS AT PAIN AWAY HAD BEGUN
26:03 - PAYING IN CASH AND THIS IS
26:05 - SIMPLY ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THIS
26:07 - OCCURRING THEREFORE IT'S
26:08 - EXTREMELY RELEVANT TO DOCTOR
26:10 - SHAFER TREATMENT OF
26:11 - HAPPY MCADOO THERE ARE IF I MAY
26:13 - YET AGAIN THE PREJUDICIAL VALUE
26:14 - SUBSTANTIALLY ALWAYS THE
26:15 - PROBATIVE VALUE.
26:16 - >>SAYING THAT A DOCTOR AND THE
26:17 - DOCTOR'S PATIENTS ARE OUTSIDE
26:19 - THE FACILITY WHICH IS NOT AN
26:20 - HAPPENING IN THE DAY IN
26:21 - QUESTION DECEMBER 16TH, IT'S
26:23 - NOT IRRELEVANT TO
26:23 - THAT DAY. IT'S CHANGING WADS OF
26:26 - CASH IN WHICH NO ONE CAN
26:27 - TESTIFY TO NOT EVEN THERE'S
26:28 - KELSEY I CAN TELL YOU THE EXACT
26:29 - AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS THERE
26:31 - FOR EXAMPLE IT COULD HAVE BEEN
26:32 - ONES. HUNDREDS FOR ALL WE KNOW,
26:34 - BUT THE FACT THAT NOBODY CAN
26:35 - TESTIFY TO THE
26:36 - EXACT AMOUNT AND IS INSET
26:37 - INSINUATING DIFFERENT IMAGES,
26:39 - THE MINDS OF THE JURY IS MORE
26:40 - PREJUDICIAL BETWEEN A DOCTOR
26:42 - AND THE DOCTOR'S PATIENTS
26:43 - OUTSIDE THE PACE STILL A T
26:44 - EXCHANGING MONEY. OUR THE
26:46 - AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THIS CASE IS
26:48 - NOT A QUESTION HERE IS THE
26:50 - ISSUE IS.
26:51 - >>WHETHER OR NOT DOCTOR SHAFER
26:52 - WAS INTERACTING WITH HER
26:53 - PATIENT DURING HER TREATMENT IN
26:55 - A WAY THAT CONSTITUTED GOOD
26:57 - STATES AND ANY INTERACTION
26:58 - BETWEEN THE DOCTOR AND PATIENT
27:00 - SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO
27:01 - MONETARY PAYMENTS GOES DIRECTLY
27:03 - TO THE FACE OF THE DOCTOR WHEN
27:05 - TREATING THE PATIENT. YEAH, I'M
27:07 - A DAD AGAIN THIS HAPPENED
27:08 - OUTSIDE OF THE CAMPUS OT, NOT
27:10 - ON THE DAY IN QUESTION
27:11 - DECEMBER 16TH, THEREFORE IT IS
27:13 - COMPLETELY AROUND THAT AND MORE
27:15 - PREJUDICIAL BECAUSE IT IS IN
27:16 - FORMING THE
27:16 - JURY THAT SOME LEGAL ACTION AND
27:18 - OR NOT APPROPRIATE ACTION THAT
27:20 - COULD HAPPEN INSIDE THE
27:21 - FACILITY WAS HAPPENING BEHIND
27:22 - US BEHIND THE CURTAINS.
27:25 - >>THING KEEPING ARGUMENT ON
27:26 - THAT I'M GOING A LOT OF
27:27 - QUESTIONS TO ANSWER THE
27:28 - QUESTION THIS OUT WOULD YOU
27:29 - LIKE ME TO RE ASKED THE
27:30 - QUESTION. YES, POLICE
27:32 - WHAT DID YOU OBSERVE ABOUT
27:33 - DOCTOR, SHE FIRST TREATMENT US
27:35 - HAVE BEEN MCADOO
27:36 - DOCTOR SHAFER WROTE COACH A
27:37 - SCRIPT FOR HUNDREDS OF DOSES OF
27:39 - OXYCODONE AND AFTER THAT IT WAS
27:42 - ALWAYS AROUND.
27:45 - I SAW COACH GIVING DOCTOR
27:46 - SHAFER A LOT OF $100 BILLS
27:49 - MISS KELSEY OVER THE COURSE OF
27:51 - COACH MACK AND HIS TREATMENT.
27:53 - WHAT DID YOU OBSERVE ABOUT
27:54 - DOCTOR SCHAEFER'S USE OF THE
27:55 - PRESCRIPTION DRUG MONITORING
27:56 - PROGRAM DOCTOR SHAFER
27:59 - TO MY OBSERVATIONS HAD NOT
28:00 - CHECKED THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG
28:01 - MONITORING PROGRAM
28:02 - FOR COACH. I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU
28:04 - A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DAY
28:05 - OF COACH MCADOO STAFF DECEMBER
28:07 - 16TH, 2016.
28:09 - >>WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT
28:10 - THAT DAY. JUST TERRIBLE.
28:13 - COACH CAME IN. SHE WAS SWEATING
28:15 - SHE WAS SHAKING AND YOU CAN
28:17 - MOVE YOUR LEFT ARM BECAUSE OF
28:18 - THE PAIN. I FELL OVER AND TAKE
28:20 - SHEET AND WAS IN THE PROCESS OF
28:22 - ASKING HER IF SHE SAW ANYTHING
28:23 - ABOUT CHECKS APD M P WHEN
28:26 - DOCTOR SHAFER CALLED COACH AND
28:27 - TOLD ME TAKE A BREAK IN ALL OF
28:29 - THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN
28:30 - WORKING FOR
28:30 - DOCTOR SHAFER SHE HAS NEVER
28:32 - TOLD ME TAKE A BREAK WHILE
28:33 - TREATING A PATIENT BEFORE.
28:35 - DID YOU TAKE THAT BREAK.
28:37 - HE DID AND DID YOU CHECK THE
28:39 - PDM PEOPLE FOR GOING ON THAT
28:40 - BREAK. I DIDN'T I WISH
28:43 - I HAD BUT HE DIDN'T
28:45 - WHY NOT BECAUSE I ASSUME THAT
28:47 - DOCTOR SHAFER WE DO THE RIGHT
28:48 - THING AND THE RESPONSIBLE THING
28:50 - AND CHECK THE PMP
28:52 - THIS KELSEY WHY DID YOU THINK
28:53 - THE CHECKING THE PD MP WAS THE
28:55 - RESPONSIBLE THING FOR DOCTOR
28:56 - SHAFER TO DO THIS COACH WAS AN
28:58 - OLDER PATIENT. SO THE RISK
29:00 - FACTORS ASSOCIATED WITH HER AND
29:01 - BECAUSE CHECKING PDM PEAK ONLY
29:03 - TAKES SECONDS TO
29:05 - YOUR KNOWLEDGE HOW DID THE
29:06 - DEFENDANT TREAT COACH MCADOO ON
29:08 - THE DAY OF HER DEATH.
29:09 - DOCTOR SHAFER A KEY UP COACHES
29:11 - OR
29:11 - LOCALLY PRESCRIPTION AND GAVE
29:14 - FOR A SHOT OF HYDROMORPHONE
29:16 - WHICH IS THE STROKE STRONGEST
29:17 - DOSE IV NARCOTICS SHE IS
29:19 - EVER GIVEN TO ONE OF OUR
29:20 - PATIENTS AND WHAT WAS THE
29:22 - OUTCOME OF THAT TREATMENT COACH
29:23 - DIED. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS YOUR
29:25 - HONOR.
29:39 - THIS KELSEY I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY
29:41 - A FEW THINGS THE JURY ON
29:42 - DECEMBER 16TH 2016 IT WAS
29:44 - PERFECTLY LEGAL FOR
29:45 - DOCTOR SHAFER.
29:46 - >>TO PRESCRIBE OPIOID WITHOUT
29:48 - REFERRING TO THE PMP PRACTICE.
29:49 - IT WAS LEGAL MUCH.
29:51 - >>IN.
29:53 - AROUND 3 WEEKS WOULD NOT BE BUT
29:55 - IT'S STILL PERFECTLY. IT WAS
29:57 - LEGAL, BUT.
29:58 - THAT CHECKING THE PNP AS
30:00 - MANY TORY.
30:01 - >>WOULD BE LAW AND WE STILL SEE
30:03 - WAS ALSO A PERFECTLY LEGAL
30:04 - INJECTION DOSE SAID DOCTOR
30:05 - SHAFER AND MINISTER TO COACH
30:07 - HAVING MCADOO ON THAT DAY
30:08 - CORRECT LEGAL BUT ON THE HIGHER
30:10 - END OF THE FDA GOT NOW IT
30:12 - STRAIGHT DESCRIBE PAIN AS A
30:13 - FUNNY THING CRACKED.
30:15 - THAT'S TRUE, YOU SAY IT'S FUNNY
30:16 - BECAUSE SOMEONE CAN BE IN PAIN
30:17 - WITH NO ACTUAL INJURIES
30:19 - AND PATRICK. JUST YOU WAIT ANY
30:21 - PAIN CLINIC, CORRECT. I AM IN
30:23 - YES AS A NURSE PRACTITIONER.
30:25 - I AM A NURSE PRACTITIONER NOW
30:27 - YOU'D AGREE WITH ME THAT THERE
30:27 - ARE CERTAIN LIMITATIONS YOU
30:28 - HAVE TO TREATING A PATIENT PANE
30:30 - CRACKED THAT'S TRUE YOUR MONEY
30:32 - SHE'S IN PAIN IS DIFFICULT
30:34 - BECAUSE AS YOU SAID BEFORE ONE
30:37 - PERSON'S PAIN.
30:38 - BUT WE CAN'T REALLY MEASURE
30:39 - PAIN OBJECTIVE LEE YOU'RE
30:41 - UNABLE TO PRESCRIBE OPIOIDS TO
30:42 - A PATIENT BRINGING PAIN ISN'T
30:43 - THAT TRUE KNOW I LEAVE THAT TO
30:45 - THE DOCTOR RAY SHAFFER IS IN
30:46 - FACT A DOCTOR ISN'T SHE.
30:48 - YES SHOT OR A SCHAEFER'S ABLE
30:50 - TO PRESCRIBE OPIOIDS TO A
30:51 - PATIENT IMPORTING PAIN ISN'T
30:52 - THAT TRUE. YES, SHE IS SHAPERS
30:55 - ABLE TO DO SO BECAUSE SHE
30:56 - FURTHER EDUCATION MUST FIELDS
30:58 - OF STUDYING THOSE MEDICATIONS,
30:59 - BUT THE ABILITY TO DO THAT IS
31:01 - IN
31:01 - FACT TRUE AND IT'S TRUE THAT
31:03 - ISIS THE PREVIEW DOCTOR'S
31:05 - EDUCATION. NOW LIKE TO DISCUSS
31:06 - 24 TEAM AND COACH MAC TO CAME
31:08 - TO THE PAIN WITH CLINIC.
31:09 - SHE CAME BECAUSE OF A SHOOTING
31:10 - PAIN IN HER ARM IS IN FACT
31:11 - TRUE. SHE WAS IN
31:14 - TERRIBLE PAIN
31:15 - AND INITIALLY THERE C T'S AND
31:16 - LIES AND EVEN X REASON TO
31:18 - PINPOINT THE PRECISE LOCATION
31:20 - OF THE SPACE. YES AS WE DO WITH
31:22 - ALL OF OUR PATIENTS WHO COME IN
31:23 - WITH PAIN THAT THEY CAN
31:24 - IDENTIFY WE TRY AND FIND OUT
31:27 - WHAT THEY IDENTIFIED THE CAUSE
31:28 - OF THE PAIN WOULD NEW DEGREES
31:30 - AND THERE WAS NO MUSCULAR
31:31 - TENDON DAMAGE REAL ON ANY OF
31:32 - THOSE STANCE NOW SO IT IS
31:34 - TRUE THAT COACH MCADOO IN 2014
31:36 - COULD BE IN PAIN WITH NO ACTUAL
31:38 - INJURY CORRECT. SHE WAS
31:39 - SUFFERING FROM PHANTOM PAIN
31:41 - YES, LIKE TO DISCUSS 12/16/2016
31:43 - WITH YOU.
31:44 - COACH MATT WHO CALLED FIRST
31:46 - THING IN THE MORNING BECAUSE OF
31:47 - THIS CRIPPLING PAIN IS IN FACT
31:48 - TRUE SHE DID
31:49 - AND YOU REALLY SHOULD NOT HAVE
31:51 - FOSTERED IN A PHONE CALLS AND
31:52 - THAT RUSSIA DID SOME FLUSTERED
31:53 - BY USING PAIN. BUT
31:54 - YOU DIDN'T WANT TO IMMEDIATELY
31:55 - GO TO A SURGEON CARE DID YOU.
31:58 - NO I DID NOT EVEN TOLD THE
31:59 - COURT AMBULANCE FOR THIS
32:00 - CRIPPLING PAIN EITHER
32:01 - DID YOU. NO EXACT YOU'VE
32:03 - SCHEDULED HER AS A TACK ON
32:05 - PATIENT. ALL THE WAY AT THE END
32:07 - OF THE WORKDAY IS IN FACT TRUE.
32:09 - YES BECAUSE WE HAD A
32:10 - PARTICULARLY BUSY DAY. WE HAVE
32:11 - A LOT OF PATIENCE FOR PAIN
32:12 - CLINIC, SO ALL OF OUR PATIENTS
32:14 - ARE COMING TO US IN PAIN AND
32:16 - ALL OF THEM HAVE A GREAT NEED
32:16 - TO SEE DOCTOR SHAFER YOU AGREE
32:18 - THAT THAT THIS SITUATION WAS
32:20 - RATHER URGENT. YES, A LOT OF
32:22 - HER SITUATION IS URGENT BECAUSE
32:23 - WE'RE PAIN CLINIC AND WHEN
32:24 - COACH FINALLY CAME IN
32:26 - YOU NOTICE THAT SHE WAS
32:27 - SWEATING PAIN WASN'T SHE.
32:29 - SHE WAS SHE WAS SHAKING PAIN
32:31 - WAS IN SHAPE. SHE WAS IN FACT
32:32 - SHE COULDN'T MOVE HER ARM TO
32:34 - WIPE THE SWEAT OFF YOUR
32:35 - FOREHEAD ISN'T
32:36 - THAT TRUE. NOW SHE CANNOT AS A
32:38 - TERRIBLE AT THIS MOMENT YOU
32:40 - START ASKING HER WHAT
32:40 - MEDICATION SHE WAS ON A CRACKED
32:42 - I DID I WAS FEELING UNDER INTO
32:43 - SHE LIKE I DO WITH ALL MY
32:44 - PATIENTS AND YOU'RE READING
32:45 - THESE MEDICATIONS TOWN ISN'T
32:46 - THAT TRUE EILIS BUT COACH NEVER
32:48 - TOLD YOU SHE WAS ON XANAX
32:49 - DITCH. NO SHE'S NOT BUT SHE WAS
32:52 - ALSO IN A PRETTY BAD CONDITIONS
32:54 - SO SHE MAY NOT HAVE REMEMBERED
32:55 - AT THIS POINT DOCTOR SCHIEFFER
32:57 - TOOK HER PATIENTS ACTUALLY ROOM
32:58 - CRACKED AFTER ORDERING ME TO
33:00 - TAKE A BREAK.
33:01 - YES, AND YOU ARE NO LONGER
33:03 - PRESENT FOR THE SITUATION
33:04 - DOCTOR SCHIEFFER FACE IN THAT
33:05 - ROOM FOR YOU NO I WAS NOT
33:07 - DOCTOR SHAFER HAD ORDERED ME
33:09 - TAKE A BREAK. WHAT YOU DO KNOW
33:10 - IS THAT
33:11 - 20 MINUTES LATER. COACH MCADOO
33:13 - OF THAT VERY SAME DIDN'T SHE.
33:15 - SHE DID. SHE WAS NO LONGER
33:17 - SWEATING AND PAIN WASHING.
33:18 - I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WAS IN PAIN
33:19 - OR NOT SHE WAS NOT SWEATING TO
33:21 - MY OBSERVATIONS SHE WAS NO
33:22 - LONGER SHAKING WASHING. NOW, IN
33:24 - FACT SHE WALKED OUT OF THAT
33:25 - ROOM, SMILING BECAUSE SHE WAS
33:28 - PAYING TREAT ONE SUGARY SWEET.
33:30 - SHE WAS SMILING, YES. AND NOW
33:33 - ONE LAST QUESTION UNLIKE
33:35 - DOCTOR SHAFER YOU HAVE NEVER
33:37 - HAD TO MAKE THE DECISION
33:38 - WHETHER OR NOT TO
33:39 - PRESCRIBING OPIOID TO A
33:40 - PATIENT. ACCORDING IN CRIPPLING
33:42 - PAIN HAVE YOU KNOW BECAUSE I'M
33:44 - NOT A DOCTOR AND I LEAVE THOSE
33:45 - DECISIONS TO THE DOCTOR, NO
33:47 - FURTHER QUESTIONS YOUR HONOR.
34:03 - >>HE MAKES IT DOWN THINKING.
34:11 - I JUST ASK AT THIS TIME A
34:13 - CEILING COME ON NEWS BENEATH
34:14 - THE TIME HE WAS BE CHECK WITH
34:15 - EACH OTHER TO VERIFY.
34:22 - I WILL NOT BE ASKING AGAIN.
34:24 - SO JUST IF INTEREST TO US AND
34:26 - TOP OF THAT THANK YOU.
34:32 - >>BECAUSE MISTER J J T THAT'S
34:34 - THE STAND. THANK YOU.
34:46 - GOOD MORNING. MISTER T THE
34:47 - COULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE
34:48 - YOURSELF TO THE JURY.
34:49 - >>OF GT THE COMMERCIAL PER
34:51 - SALOON ENERGY AT FIRST WAS WE
34:53 - BANK.
34:53 - >>COULD YOU EXPLAIN YOUR JOB AT
34:55 - THE BANK.
34:56 - >>I'M ACTUALLY QUITE IMPORTANT
34:57 - YOU SEE I DECIDE WHO GETS MONEY
34:59 - AND WHO DOESN'T IT'S UP TO ME
35:00 - IF YOU CAN OPEN A BUSINESS OR
35:02 - BUY A HOUSE.
35:03 - >>CAN YOU EXPLAIN IT CAME TO
35:04 - KNOW THE DEFENDANT.
35:06 - SO FUNNY STORY YOU SEE BACK IN
35:08 - 2010 SHAPE. THAT'S WHAT I CALL
35:10 - HIM HER
35:11 - CAME TO ME FOR A $100,000 LOAN
35:14 - TO OPEN UP A PAIN CLINIC AND
35:15 - WAS WEAK. BUT
35:16 - ON PAPER THE BUSINESS PLAN WAS
35:18 - TRASH, I ME SHE WANTED TO OPEN
35:19 - UP SOME TOUCHY FEELY PAIN
35:21 - CLINIC OUT OF AN OLD CHEVY
35:22 - DEALERSHIP DID YOU GET FOR THE
35:24 - LOW. WELL, YOU KNOW THERE IS NO
35:26 - THIS BUT I SEE A TENNIS
35:28 - CHAMPION IN MAY YOU.
35:30 - BUT MY CAREER WAS CUT SHORT
35:31 - WHEN I GOT A BAD CASE OF TENNIS
35:33 - ELBOW. SO I TOLD SHAPE IF SHE
35:35 - COULD FIX MY TENNIS SO I GIVE
35:36 - HER THE LOVE AND IT WORKS SO I
35:38 - GAVE HER TWICE BUT YES, WHAT.
35:40 - >>CLOSE YOUR RELATIONSHIP LIKE
35:41 - WITH THE DEFENDANT AFTER THIS.
35:43 - >>WELL IT STARTED TO GROW I
35:45 - STARTED RECOMMENDING HER LEFT
35:46 - AND RIGHT AND WE BECAME PRETTY
35:48 - GOOD FRIENDS.
35:49 - >>FROM YOUR JOB AT THE BANK YOU
35:50 - HAVE A CHANCE TO PAIN WAY WAS
35:52 - DOING OVER TIME.
35:53 - >>CHET REALLY TOOK OFF. AND
35:56 - THEY EVEN HAVE TO MOVE INTO A
35:57 - BIGGER PLACE, ALTHOUGH SHE DID
35:59 - HAVE TO LEVERAGE HER HOME WITH
36:01 - A SECOND MORTGAGE AND OPEN A
36:03 - LARGE FROM EQUITY LINE OF
36:04 - CREDIT.
36:04 - >>FOSUN DEFENDANT LIKE AS HE
36:06 - WAS GROWING. AZA.
36:08 - >>BIG PLACE SHOES STRESSED OVER
36:10 - WOUND, HOW COULD YOU TELL THE
36:12 - SHOE STRESSED NEVER OUT.
36:14 - EARLIER ON THEIR FRIENDSHIP SHE
36:16 - HAD CONFIDED IN ME THAT SHE
36:18 - DIDN'T DRINK AND NOW SHE
36:19 - STARTED DRINKING.
36:23 - >>SHE FIRST
36:23 - PASSED DRINKING.
36:25 - >>YOUR HONOR NOT TO SAY THIS IS
36:26 - A BAD ACTOR CHARACTER EVIDENCE
36:27 - ANYWAY. WE'RE SIMPLY OUTLINING
36:30 - A CHANGE IN BEHAVIOR OF THE
36:31 - DEFENDANT WHICH
36:33 - GOING TO STRESS THAT SHE'S
36:34 - DOING AT THE TIME BECAUSE OF
36:35 - HER FINANCIAL PROBLEMS.
36:37 - >>IN THE PROSECUTION CANNOT FOR
36:38 - THE DOCTOR A SHEEP OR WAS UNDER
36:39 - THE INFLUENCE ON DECEMBER,
36:41 - 1620 16, THEREFORE BRING UP THE
36:43 - TESTIMONY ABOUT ALCOHOL IS MORE
36:44 - PRECIOUS PREJUDICIAL THAT IT IS
36:46 - PROBED IT.
36:46 - >>YOUR HONOR WE'RE NOT USING IT
36:48 - FOR FOR PENCE THE PURPOSES
36:49 - WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT
36:50 - DOCTOR SCHIEFFER WAS
36:51 - INTOXICATED WHILE TREATING
36:52 - COACH MCADOO HOWEVER THIS
36:54 - CHANGE IN BEHAVIOR ISN'T
36:55 - BECAUSE OF THE STRESS WHICH
36:56 - COULD BE A MOTIVE FOR ACTING IN
36:57 - BAD FAITH
36:58 - AND THE ATTEMPTS TO GAIN MONEY
37:01 - WHILE
37:01 - TREATING PATIENTS.
37:02 - >>THERE I SEE A PROSECUTION IS
37:04 - TRYING TO PROVE THAT THIS
37:05 - CHANGE THIS CHANGE OF BEHAVIOR
37:06 - INCLUDED THE OUTCOME THAT'S
37:08 - WHAT I'M SAYING ITS MORE
37:09 - PREJUDICIAL THAN IT IS PROBED
37:10 - IT DRINKING NOW CAUSE AN
37:12 - INFLAMMATORY TERM IN THIS
37:13 - SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN COURT
37:14 - TODAY AND IS NOT RELEVANT TO
37:15 - DECEMBER 16TH 2016.
37:18 - >>I'M GOING TO SUSTAIN THE
37:20 - OBJECTION AS THE ALCOHOLICS
37:21 - HISTORY TESTIFY MUCH CHANGE
37:22 - IN BEHAVIOR.
37:23 - >>AND YET YOUR INTRO 06:11AM A
37:25 - DISTRICT THE TESTIMONY.
37:30 - TO PALEY FACING CHALLENGES
37:32 - OVER TIME. YEAH IN
37:35 - 2012 THAT ALL STARTED TO FALL
37:37 - APART. WHAT HAPPENED IN 2012.
37:39 - WELL THAT'S WHEN HURRICANE
37:39 - SANDY HIT IT, DAN THE STATED
37:41 - THE CLINIC SHE EVEN TOLD ME SHE
37:43 - DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT FLOOD
37:44 - INSURANCE AND NOW SHE WAS $3
37:46 - MILLION IN DEBT.
37:47 - >>AND DECLARED BANKRUPTCY.
37:49 - >>HOW DID THE DEFENDANT RESPOND
37:50 - TO THE BANKRUPTCY OF HER
37:51 - CLINIC.
37:52 - SEE THAT'S WHERE I SAW
37:54 - SOMETHING WEEK. I LOOKED INTO
37:56 - HER FINANCES STILL HER LINE
37:57 - MANAGER AND HER SPENDING HABITS
38:00 - HAD STAYED THE SAME FROM WHEN
38:01 - SHE WAS A SUCCESSFUL DOCTOR
38:03 - GETTING PATIENTS FROM AROUND
38:04 - THE COUNTRY. 2 WHEN SHE WAS
38:06 - BANKRUPT. NOW I'D LIKE TO
38:08 - DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO COACH
38:09 - MCADOO DID YOU KNOW HER.
38:13 - NEW COACH MCADOO HAVE
38:14 - EARNED IT. I RECOMMEND IT OR
38:16 - SHE CAN 2014. DO YOU HAVE ANY
38:19 - CONCERNS ABOUT HER BEING A
38:20 - PATIENT OF DOCTOR SCHAEFER'S.
38:23 - NOT AT FIRST, BUT.
38:26 - THE IN SHAPE GOT INTO A PRETTY
38:28 - BIG SITE AND SHE
38:30 - SAID THAT COULD MCADOO WAS A
38:32 - CASH FLOW. ONE OF HER OWN
38:34 - PATIENTS, A CASH FLOW.
38:36 - WHAT DID YOU DO AFTER DOCTOR
38:38 - SCHIEFFER CALLED COACH MCADOO A
38:39 - CASH FLOW
38:40 - OF COURSE I THOUGHT WHICH HAD
38:42 - TO KNOW THE US. I MEAN IT WAS
38:44 - INSANE. SO
38:46 - I CALLED HER UP AND I HEARD
38:48 - SOMETHING EVEN WORSE COACH TOLD
38:50 - ME THAT SHE GOT HERS AND I GET
38:53 - MINE. YOUR HONOR AND ARE
38:55 - YOU FROM FOR
38:56 - THE 3. THIS IS A STATEMENT
38:58 - AGAINST INTEREST WITH THE
38:59 - DECLARE IT WAS UNAVAILABLE TO
39:01 - DEATH.
39:01 - >>IN A STATEMENT AGAINST
39:02 - INTEREST HAS A TENDENCY TO
39:04 - EXPOSE COACH MCADOO TO COME A
39:06 - LIABILITY SOME SHE'S ADMITTING
39:07 - TO
39:07 - MISHANDLING OPIOIDS.
39:09 - >>I MEAN THIS IS NOT A
39:10 - STATEMENT AGAINST INTEREST HAS
39:11 - PUSHED BACK. HE SAID
39:12 - I GET MINE AND SHE GETS HERS
39:13 - AND IT'S FOR HER OWN INTERESTS.
39:15 - I FAIL TO SEE HOW IT IS AN
39:16 - EXCEPTION
39:17 - TO HEARSAY BECAUSE IT EXPOSES
39:19 - HER CALL HIM A LIABILITY SHE IS
39:21 - ADMITTING TO A CRIMINAL ACT IN
39:22 - THE STATEMENT IT IS A STATEMENT
39:23 - AGAINST INTEREST. RESPONDED
39:26 - TO IT I DON'T FEEL AS THOUGH IT
39:28 - HAS A CONNOTATION OF LEGAL
39:30 - RIGHT INSIDE THE EAGLE.
39:32 - TROUBLES FOR THE STATEMENT
39:33 - SAYING THAT SHE IS SHE GETS HER
39:35 - OPIOIDS AND I DON'T KNOW
39:36 - WHETHER STUDENTS MOST
39:37 - IN NEED THAT DEAL WAS HE STILL
39:38 - HAS A STATEMENT AGAINST
39:39 - INTEREST.
39:41 - >>I'M GOING TO DIE REALLY OF
39:43 - ACTION ON STATEMENT YESTERDAY
39:45 - TO START WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO
39:46 - ASK CHECKED.
39:47 - >>WHAT DID YOU DO AFTER DOCTOR
39:49 - SHAFER CALLED COULD NOT DO A
39:50 - CASH FLOW.
39:51 - >>THE SENATE CALLED HER OUT
39:53 - THAN I HEARD SOMETHING WORRYING
39:54 - THAT SHE GETS HERS AND I GET
39:57 - MINE.
39:58 - >>DID YOU EVER SEE COACH MCADOO
40:00 - IN PERSON AFTER THE DAY
40:01 - RECOMMENDED HER DOCTOR SHAFER.
40:05 - >>2015 ROTARY CLUB ANNUAL GALA
40:08 - WITH SHAPED.
40:09 - >>WELL AS COACH BACK IN HIS
40:10 - BEHAVIOR LIKE OUT BACK OUT.
40:13 - >>COCO HAPPENED YEARS BEFORE
40:15 - COACH MACK OF HIS DEATH.
40:16 - YOUR HONOR WHEN THEY WITNESS
40:17 - YOU GOT TO CONTINUE HERE WE GO
40:19 - TO TESTIFY ABOUT HOW COACH
40:20 - MCADOO WAS VISIBLY ABOUT STATE.
40:22 - GIVEN THE DOCTOR SCHIEFFER WAS
40:23 - PRESENT AT
40:24 - THIS GALA SHOW US THAT YOU HAVE
40:26 - OBSERVED THIS TEA AND THEN
40:27 - CONTINUE TO A COACH MCADOO
40:29 - LATER KNOWING HER DECLINING
40:31 - MENTAL HEALTH. THIS GOES
40:32 - DIRECTLY TO THAT FAITH WHICH IS
40:34 - ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE TO
40:35 - PROVE AND STATE'S CASE.
40:36 - >>IT BAD FAITH ONLY HAPPENED ON
40:38 - DECEMBER, 1620
40:39 - 16 PROSECUTIONS BURDEN. IT'S
40:41 - ONLY FOR THAT SPECIFIC DAY THE
40:43 - ROAD TO COME GALA HAPPENED
40:44 - YEARS BEFORE PUSH BACK OF HIS
40:46 - DEATH. IT WAS DURING THE
40:46 - BEGINNING OF HER TREATMENT WITH
40:48 - SCHIEFFER SO I FAIL TO SEE HOW
40:49 - ISRAEL IN COURT TONIGHT.
40:51 - IF I MAY YOUR HONOR THE SENSES.
40:53 - CLAIMING THAT DOCTOR SHE FIRST
40:55 - KNOWLEDGE ABOUT COACH NOT TO
40:56 - DO.
40:56 - >>URSULA COMING INTO THE INTAKE
40:58 - SHEET FROM THE WORD OF THE
40:59 - PATIENT HERSELF. HOWEVER, THIS
41:01 - GOES TO SHOW THAT DOCTOR SHE
41:02 - FOR HAD KNOWLEDGE ABOUT COACHES
41:04 - CONDITION. THESE OFFICE GALA
41:06 - WHICH WOULD GO TO THE KNOWLEDGE
41:07 - THAT DOCTOR SHE WAS USING ONE
41:08 - TREATING COACH MCADOO ALL THAT
41:10 - IN QUESTION AND HOW
41:11 - HOW LINE.
41:12 - >>HOW ON THE WAS AT THE GALA
41:14 - PRIOR TO THE DATE OF DEATH
41:15 - ABOUT A YEAR.
41:19 - NO YOUR EYES ON
41:20 - THAT ACTION. I'M GOING
41:22 - ALLOW THE A LOT OF THE
41:24 - QUESTIONS THAT'S 9 YESTERDAY.
41:25 - OVERRULED YES, SIR. WELL, AS
41:28 - COACHES BEHAVIOR LIKE AT THE
41:29 - SCALA.
41:31 - >>SHE CAME IN UNANNOUNCED
41:34 - AND UNINVITED.
41:35 - >>SET THE SPEAKER'S CHAIR
41:38 - AND STARTED PLAYING WITH THE
41:39 - CUPS AND FORKS LIKE THEY WERE
41:40 - SILENT PHONES. SIDE LOVE
41:43 - SO THIS. I WAS HORRIFIED AND OF
41:46 - COURSE IS CONCERN FOR COACH,
41:48 - I MEAN THIS JUST WASN'T LIKE.
41:50 - DID YOU DO ANYTHING ABOUT HIS
41:51 - CONCERNS. YEAH RIGHT HALL
41:54 - I SENT SHAPE THE MESSAGE AND A
41:56 - STERN WARNING HER ABOUT MY
41:57 - CONCERNS AND.
42:00 - DECLINING SEA BUT I GOT NO
42:02 - RESPONSE, NOT THANK YOU YOUR
42:05 - HONOR, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
42:11 - PRICES EMISSION YES, YOUR
42:12 - HONOR.
42:17 - GOOD AFTERNOON. MISTER T TO
42:18 - MISS CAN ASK A FEW QUESTIONS.
42:20 - YOU KNOW A PHYSICIAN I AM.
42:22 - AND AS LITTLE MANAGER
42:24 - NEVER HAD TO MAKE THE DECISION
42:25 - WHETHER TO PRESCRIBE OPIOIDS TO
42:27 - A PATIENT POINT PAIN ACTUALLY
42:29 - THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOU
42:30 - YOURSELF HAVE EXPERIENCE IN
42:31 - PAIN. IT'S NOT RIGHT. AS I
42:34 - SAID EARLIER SHERIFF JIM
42:36 - ANTENNA SO IN FACT THAT SOMEONE
42:38 - HAS EXPERIENCED PAIN. IT CAN
42:39 - BE QUITE CRIPPLING CANTON YET
42:42 - THEY CAN THAT MISTER T BUT YOU
42:44 - CAN TYPE ON A KEYBOARD WITHOUT
42:47 - EXPERIENCING EXTREME PAIN NOW
42:48 - IS NOT RIGHT YET SOME POINTING
42:50 - ARE REAL THAT SO YOU SOUGHT
42:51 - TREATMENT FROM DOCTOR A SHAPER
42:53 - CORRECT YET AND WHEN YOU ASKED
42:55 - HER TO HEAL YOUR PAIN. SHE DID
42:57 - SO CORRECT YET WITH
42:59 - SOME ACUPUNCTURE AND SOME
43:01 - WEIRD OINTMENTS I DON'T KNOW
43:03 - EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED BUT IT
43:04 - WAS GONE WITHIN A DAY OR 2 FOR
43:06 - THE FIRST TIME IN A DECADE.
43:08 - BECAUSE OF DOCTOR A SHAPER HE
43:10 - FINALLY FELT SOME RELIEF
43:12 - ACUPUNCTURE FEEL IT. AND THE
43:14 - TEAM I WANT TO MOVE TO EARLY
43:16 - 2014. IT WAS ON THE BUTTON TO
43:18 - PUSH BACK INTO THE MARKET
43:19 - CORRECT.
43:21 - AND HE MADE SOME PERSONAL
43:22 - OBSERVATIONS ABOUT HER CRACKED
43:24 - YEAH, I DID SHE SEEM TO AWFUL
43:27 - I MEAN SHE SEEMS SAD AND
43:29 - DESPERATE MISTER T THAT YOU
43:31 - THOUGHT COACH MCADOO LOOKED
43:33 - DEPRESSED THEN YOU
43:35 - YET IT WAS AWFUL
43:37 - TO SEE THE AND I SAW THE CHIEFS
43:39 - TREATMENT WAS DOING NOTHING FOR
43:41 - MISTER TENET'S FOR WORSE THIS
43:43 - IS BEFORE A COURT ACTUALLY SAW
43:44 - DOCTOR SHAFER CRACKED.
43:46 - AND THAT IS HER CHOICE IN A
43:47 - MARKET WHICH ONE ARE YOU
43:48 - EXPLAIN THE FIRST TIME IN 2014
43:50 - MISTER TITO FOR CERTAIN MANAGER
43:51 - AND SHE WAS DEPRESSED THEN
43:53 - CRACKED.
43:55 - IN FACT COACH MATTHEW TOLD YOU
43:56 - THEN THAT SHE WAS IN TON THE
44:00 - PAIN IS NOT RIGHT.
44:02 - THE END AND THAT'S WHY
44:03 - RECOMMENDED YOU TO CHANGE I
44:05 - THOUGHT THAT SHE WOULD GET SOME
44:06 - ACUPUNCTURE TREATMENTS LIKE I
44:08 - DID.
44:09 - >>AND END UP FEELING BETTER
44:10 - THAN EVER.
44:11 - >>THE MATTER TO YOU BUT I WANT
44:12 - TO MOVE TO THE SUMMER OF 2016 6
44:15 - MONTHS BEFORE COACHES DEATH.
44:17 - ONCE AGAIN, BUT IN THE COACH
44:18 - CORRECT. YES AND ONCE AGAIN
44:20 - MADE TO OBSERVATIONS ABOUT HER
44:21 - RIGHT. YEAH THAT'S WHAT I WAS
44:23 - TALKING ABOUT BEFORE
44:24 - SHE LOOKS MORE DEPRESSED THAN
44:26 - EVER SHE WAS.
44:28 - SHE LOOKED COMPLETELY DESTROYED
44:31 - AS SHE WAS ASKED TO USE LEE OR
44:32 - ANXIETY MEDS. MISTER TAYLOR
44:35 - 2 YEARS LATER. YOU STILL
44:37 - THOUGHT SHE LOOKED TERRIBLE IS
44:39 - NOT RIGHT. YES, SO MUCH WORSE
44:40 - THAN THE 4 OF US.
44:46 - COACH MCADOO
44:46 - TOLD YOU. SHE WAS SUFFERING
44:48 - FROM DEPRESSION IS NOT RIGHT.
44:52 - THIS TIME COACH TOLD YOU.
44:54 - SHE WAS SUFFERING FROM ANXIETY
44:56 - IS NOT RIGHT. YEAH AND THEN SHE
44:57 - ASKED ME TO HELP HER FEEL
44:59 - ANXIETY MINUTES AND YOU TOLD US
45:00 - SHE WAS SUFFERING FROM ALL THIS
45:02 - ON TOP OF HER PAIN. THAT'S NOT
45:04 - RIGHT. IT'S PEOPLE. YEAH, I
45:06 - CAN'T I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
45:08 - EVEN WITH ALL THAT REMAINED
45:09 - CHASE HAD DONE NOTHING
45:11 - AND THE CITY THAT WAS 6 MONTHS
45:12 - FOR COACHES OVERDOSE THAT SHE
45:13 - TOLD YOU SHE WAS DEPRESSED
45:14 - CORRECT. YET AND YOU SAID HE
45:16 - SAT FACE OF MESSAGE DOCTOR A
45:18 - SHAPER CORRECT. YES, THE SENATE
45:19 - TO AN AD SERVICE ACCOUNT.
45:21 - IT'S
45:21 - NOT RIGHT. I TRIED CALLING HER
45:23 - AND TEXTING YOUR BEFORE AND I
45:25 - GOT NO RESPONSE OF THE CITY
45:26 - THAT DIDN'T LAST RESORT.
45:28 - >>YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING
45:30 - THAT MY CLIENT EVEN SAW THIS
45:31 - MESSAGE. IT'S NOT RIGHT.
45:33 - I HAD
45:34 - CENTER.
45:35 - >>MESSAGES BEFORE I GOT NO
45:37 - RESPONSE I SHOULD TRY TO
45:38 - REDIRECT IT BACK TO MY QUESTION
45:39 - YOU HAVE NO IDEA.
45:41 - >>IF SHE FIRST SAW THE MESSAGE
45:43 - IS NOT CORRECT.
45:48 - YOU BELIEVE THAT
45:49 - SCHAEFER AS WELL MEANING IS NOT
45:52 - RIGHT.
45:54 - TO BE INNING YET TO SAY YOU'RE
45:56 - SWORN AFFIDAVIT, A DOCTOR
45:57 - SHAFER IS WELL-MEANING RIGHT.
46:02 - THANK YOU DONNA FOR THE
46:03 - QUESTION. YOU CAN'T.
46:39 - THE PROSECUTION'S NEXT WITNESS.
46:42 - WELL LET'S CALL IT BROKE OPEN
46:44 - TO STAND. TAKE IT.
47:00 - >>GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER COUPLE
47:01 - MARRIED A SAY AFTERNOON.
47:03 - HE PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO
47:05 - THE JURY.
47:05 - BUT IN THIS WORLD CUP AND THE
47:07 - SPECIAL AGENT WITH THE DRUG
47:08 - ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION AND
47:10 - CAN YOU TELL THE JURY THAT
47:11 - ABOUT YOUR EDUCATIONAL
47:12 - BACKGROUND CERTAINLY. I
47:14 - RECEIVED MY BACHELOR'S IN
47:15 - CRIMINAL JUSTICE FROM THE
47:16 - UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS AT
47:17 - CHICAGO. AND THEN I RECEIVED MY
47:19 - MASTER'S IN PUBLIC HEALTH
47:20 - UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX
47:21 - THIS WAS NO SMALL FEAT COME
47:23 - FROM PUBLIC HOUSING IN THE
47:24 - SOUTH SIDE AND WHAT WORK
47:25 - EXPERIENCE YET. WELL BELIEVE IT
47:27 - OR NOT AFTER I GRADUATED
47:28 - ACTUALLY WORKS TO CHICAGO PD A
47:30 - COUPLE YEARS. A COUPLE MORE IN
47:32 - MAJOR CRIMES AFTER THAT IT WAS
47:33 - NOTICED BY THE D E A
47:35 - THEY ASKED JUST THAT JOINT TASK
47:37 - FORCE INVESTIGATING THE ROBERT
47:38 - TAYLOR HOMES THAT'S PUBLIC
47:39 - HOUSING OVERRUN WITH DRUGS
47:41 - AND GANGS ANYWAY HAVE A STRESS
47:43 - TEST WILL NOT ACTUALLY WAS A
47:45 - FURTHER PROMOTED TO JEFFERSON
47:46 - INVESTIGATOR. WHAT A WHAT IS
47:48 - DRUG
47:48 - DIVERSION EXACTLY. WELL, IT'S
47:51 - ACTUALLY A DIVERSION
47:51 - INVESTIGATORS JOB TO STOP LEGAL
47:54 - DRUGS BEING USED IN A WAY OTHER
47:56 - THAN HOW THEY WERE PRESCRIBED
47:57 - TO DO THIS DIVERSION.
47:58 - INVESTIGATORS
47:59 - RELY ON HISTORICAL DATA
48:01 - STATISTICAL ANALYSIS. IT'S ALL
48:02 - ABOUT THE NUMBERS YOU SEE
48:03 - DIVERSION INVESTIGATION.
48:05 - THERE IS NO SMOKING GUN.
48:07 - I DON'T AT THIS OF COFFEE AGENT
48:09 - COPELAND IS AN EXPERT IN
48:10 - NARCOTICS INVESTIGATION WITH A
48:11 - SPECIALTY IN DRUG DIVERSION.
48:14 - >>YOU'RE RIGHT TO HAVE AN
48:15 - OBJECTION TO THE SPECIALTY IN
48:16 - DRUG DIVERSION. I HAVE NO
48:18 - OBJECTION TO THE WITNESSES
48:19 - QUALIFICATIONS AS A DIVERSION
48:21 - INVESTIGATOR I HAVE TO HAVE AN
48:22 - OBJECTION TO THE RELEVANCE OF
48:23 - THE DIVERSION TESTIMONY IN THIS
48:25 - CASE. THE CHARGE IS ABOUT
48:27 - WHETHER OR NOT DOCTOR SHAFER
48:28 - ACTING IN GOOD FAITH OR IN
48:29 - ACCORDANCE WITH A RESPONSIBLE
48:30 - SEGMENT OF THE MEDICAL
48:31 - PROFESSION ON 12/16/2016 AS
48:34 - OPPOSING COUNSEL TO STATE A
48:35 - DRUG DIVERSION IS ABOUT
48:37 - YOU ABOUT ILLEGAL DRUGS BEING
48:39 - USED FOR PURPOSES OTHER THAN
48:40 - WHICH THERE PRESCRIBE THAT IS
48:41 - NOT THE CHARGE IN THIS CASE AND
48:43 - THAT IS NOT THE PROSECUTION'S
48:44 - BURDEN TO PROVE.
48:45 - >>I YOUR HONOR IF I MAY BE
48:47 - HEARD THE DRUG DIVERSION AS
48:48 - WELL AS THE GENERAL PATTERN OF
48:50 - THE PAIN AWAY CLINIC AND A
48:51 - FAITH AND IN WHICH THE DOCTOR
48:53 - SHAFER ACTED THROUGHOUT
48:55 - HIS TREATMENT, NOT ONLY COACH
48:56 - HAVING MCCABE BUT ALSO ALL THE
48:57 - OTHER PATIENTS
48:58 - GO DIRECTLY AND ARE HIGHLY
49:00 - RELEVANT TO THE TREATMENT HE
49:01 - ADMINISTERED ON THE DAY IN
49:02 - QUESTION.
49:04 - >>THEIR MARRIAGE SPAWN IT'S THE
49:05 - ONLY DEFINITION THAT OPPOSING
49:07 - COUNSEL IS PROVIDED FOR DRUG
49:08 - DIVERSION IS LEGAL DRUGS BEING
49:09 - USED FOR PURPOSES OTHER THAN
49:10 - WHICH THERE PRESCRIBE WHICH IS
49:11 - NOT THE QUESTION
49:12 - AHEAD TODAY IF OPPOSING COUNSEL
49:14 - WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT INVOLVES
49:15 - ALL THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS
49:16 - SURROUNDING DOCTOR SHIPPERS
49:17 - CLINTON ASKED THAT THEY LAY
49:18 - THAT FOUNDATION BEFORE HE BEAT
49:20 - TEAM. AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD.
49:26 - >>THEY USE A LEGALLY PRESCRIBE
49:28 - DRUGS AND ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL
49:30 - FACTION IS HIGHLY RELEVANT TO
49:32 - THE TREATMENT THE COACH MCADOO
49:34 - RECEIVED NOT ONLY ON DECEMBER
49:35 - 16TH BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT AGAIN
49:37 - HER WHOLE 10 YEAR THAT PANEL.
49:40 - >>SO I'M CLEAR THE OBJECTION IS
49:41 - NOT THAT AS AN EXPERT JUST INTO
49:44 - SPECIALTY AS A NARCOTICS
49:45 - DIVERSION. YES, EUROPE.
49:51 - AND WAYNE TO CONDITIONALLY
49:53 - SUSTAIN THAT EJECTION AND ALLOW
49:55 - COUNCIL TO MORAL ISLAND.
49:59 - THERE'S NOT JACKSON TO THIS ONE
50:01 - IS BEING POP AS AN EXPERT
50:02 - GENERALLY. IN TERMS OF THE
50:05 - NARCOTICS DIVERSION THING I
50:06 - THINK THAT'S MORE FOUNDATION
50:07 - WOULD BE NECESSARY. IT'S AN
50:09 - ISSUE THAT WILL ALLOW FOR
50:10 - PUSHING ON THAT.
50:14 - >>DID DRUG DIVERSION PERTAIN TO
50:16 - A PAIN AWAY NOT ONLY.
50:19 - RELEVANT TO COACH KELLY MACK
50:20 - ABUSE TREATMENT, BUT ALSO
50:21 - THROUGHOUT.
50:24 - I DID NOT IMPLY AN ANSWER IS AN
50:25 - OPEN ENDED QUESTION.
50:29 - >>SENIOR OVERRULED AN OBJECTION
50:31 - YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION. YES,
50:32 - SIR.
50:34 - >>AGAIN AGENT COPELAND DOES
50:35 - DRUG DIVERSION PERTAIN TO
50:37 - DOCTOR SHAFER STREAMING OF NOT
50:38 - ONLY COACH ALLEY MCADOO BALL.
50:40 - SO ALL HER PATIENTS UP
50:41 - INTO IT.
50:42 - >>IT MOST CERTAINLY DOES SHE
50:43 - SEE A DRUG DIVERSION TALKS
50:45 - ABOUT THE GOOD FAITH OF THE
50:46 - DOCTOR OVER THE COURSE OF AN
50:47 - ENTIRE TREATMENT AND TREATMENT
50:49 - OF MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS
50:51 - WHETHER OR NOT DOCTORS ENGAGING
50:52 - IN DRUG DIVERSION GOES DIRECTLY
50:54 - TO HOW THEY WOULD BEHAVE IN
50:56 - PARTICULAR IT WITH THE PATIENT
50:58 - AND TODAY. YOU'RE AT THIS OF TO
51:00 - COLON IS NOT AN EXPERT IN
51:02 - NARCOTICS INVESTIGATION AS I
51:04 - BELIEVE HE HAS ALREADY
51:04 - QUALIFIED BUT ALSO DRUG
51:05 - DIVERSION.
51:06 - >>NO OBJECTION. HE'S SO FAR
51:09 - THANK YOU TO BEGIN. IF YOU
51:10 - COMPLETED YOUR VIEW ALL
51:11 - RELEVANT INFORMATION IN TODAY'S
51:13 - CASE I DID AND ARE THESE THE
51:14 - DOCUMENTS MATERIALS YOU
51:15 - NORMALLY ARE VIEW WHEN A FARM
51:17 - IN YOUR EXPERT OPINIONS
51:18 - THEY ARE YOUR HONOR I'D I HAVE
51:20 - EXHIBIT ONE COMMISSION APPROACH
51:21 - THOSE ACCOUNTS ON THE WITNESS,
51:23 - YOU MAKE.
51:33 - ASIAN COPELAND NOW WHAT IS THIS
51:35 - DOCUMENT EXACTLY.
51:36 - >>THIS IS THE HISTORIC A LIST
51:38 - OF PRESCRIPTION CHART THAT
51:39 - COMPARES THE DATA PAIN WAYS
51:40 - PRESCRIPTION RATES DOSAGE
51:42 - AVERAGE ENEMY WITH THAT OF THE
51:43 - NATIONAL AVERAGE IS AND HOW DID
51:45 - YOU OBTAIN
51:45 - THIS DOCUMENT. THIS WAS
51:46 - OBTAINED BY A LAWFUL
51:48 - INVESTIGATION OF THE PAIN AWAY
51:49 - CLINIC, IT IS AN OFFICIAL PAIN
51:50 - AWAY CAPS DOCUMENT AND IS IT A
51:52 - FAIR AND ACCURATE COPY.
51:55 - AND AT THIS TIME OF 10 TO 2 TO
51:56 - ONE AND ADDITIVE TO PUBLISH THE
51:58 - ANY OBJECTION.
51:59 - >>YOU'RE RIGHT TO HAVE AN
52:00 - OBJECTION LONG AWARE OF THE
52:01 - AUTHENTICITY OF THIS DOCUMENT
52:03 - AND THE STIPULATIONS I BELIEVE
52:04 - THAT ANY OF THE YEARS ON THIS
52:06 - DOCUMENT THAT DO NOT INCLUDE
52:07 - THE YEARS THAT COACH HAVING
52:09 - MCADOO WAS BEING TREATED AT
52:10 - DOCTOR SHE WAS CLINIC ARE
52:12 - IRRELEVANT IN THIS CASE.
52:13 - FOR INSTANCE. COACH MAGGIE
52:15 - DIDN'T START RECEIVING
52:16 - TREATMENT OF PAIN AWAY UNTIL
52:18 - 2014. AND SO ANY YEARS BEFORE
52:20 - THAT WOULD HAVE CLEARLY NOTHING
52:21 - TO DO WITH THE CASE AHEAD TODAY
52:22 - WHETHER SHE ACTED IN GOOD FAITH
52:24 - WHEN TREATING COACH
52:24 - MACK IV.
52:25 - >>YOUR HONOR FROM IT DOESN'T
52:27 - COUNT OF MAKING A GENERAL
52:28 - RELEVANCE ARGUMENT I WOULD LIKE
52:29 - TO FIRST STATE THAT THE BAR FOR
52:31 - RELEVANCE IS INCREDIBLY LOW
52:32 - ANYTHING THAT WILL EITHER MAKE
52:33 - A FACT MORE OR LESS LIKELY IS
52:35 - CONSIDERED RELEVANT IN THE
52:36 - COURT OF LAW FOR THE MARK AND
52:37 - LIKELY
52:38 - PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED WE'RE
52:39 - USING THIS TO SHOW THE PATTERN
52:41 - AN INCREASE IN OPIOID
52:42 - PRESCRIPTIONS OF DOCTOR PHIL
52:44 - SHAFER WHICH WOULD GO DIRECTLY
52:46 - TO HOW HE IS TREATING COACH
52:48 - HADLEY MCADOO ON THE DAY SHE
52:49 - DIED. AND THEY RESPOND.
52:51 - THIS IS NOT JUST A GENERAL
52:53 - RELEVANCE OBJECTION I
52:54 - UNDERSTAND THAT THIS COULD
52:55 - ENCOMPASS MORE THAN JUST ONE
52:56 - DAY.
52:57 - >>ALLOW EVIDENCE IN THAT
52:58 - ENCOMPASSES TREATMENT OUTSIDE
52:59 - OF COACH HAD THE MCADOO
53:01 - STREAMING UP INTO IT WOULD BE
53:02 - COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT BECAUSE
53:03 - COAT COACH MAGGIE WASN'T EVEN A
53:05 - PATIENT OF PAIN AWAY AT THE
53:06 - TIME AND THAT IS WHAT THIS CASE
53:08 - IS ABOUT IT'S ABOUT WHETHER
53:09 - DUCHSCHERER ACTED IN GOOD FAITH
53:11 - WHEN TREATING COACH MCADOO EVEN
53:12 - IF IT INVOLVES MORE TIME THE
53:14 - JUSTICE CENTER 16TH.
53:17 - >>YOUR HONOR IF I MAY I'D LIKE
53:18 - TO READ IN RULE FOR A ONE THE
53:19 - TESTER RELEVANT EVIDENCE
53:21 - EVIDENCE IS CONSIDERED RELEVANT
53:22 - IF IT HAS ANY TENDENCY TO MAKE
53:24 - A FACT MORE OR LESS PROBABLE
53:26 - THAT IT WOULD BE WITHOUT THE
53:27 - EVIDENCE AND THE FACT IS OF
53:29 - CONSEQUENCE IN DETERMINING THE
53:30 - ACTION. DOCTOR SCHAEFER'S
53:32 - TREATMENT BEFORE AND AFTER SHE
53:34 - BEGAN PRESCRIBING MORE AND MORE
53:35 - OPIOIDS GOES DIRECTLY TO BOTH
53:37 - THE PRACTICE. AGAIN OF IN HER
53:40 - TREATMENT COACH PAT MCADOO AND
53:42 - THE TREATMENT OF ALL HER
53:43 - PATIENTS RIGHT. MARY SPOT, YOU
53:45 - MAKE.
53:45 - >>THAT EVIDENCE DOES NOT MAKE
53:47 - AFFECTING THIS CASE MORE OR
53:48 - LESS LIKELY UNDERSTAND WILL 4.1
53:50 - THAT IS IF IT PERTAINS TO THE
53:52 - CASE A HAND IF IT DOES NOT
53:53 - INVOLVE THE CHARGING QUESTION.
53:54 - IT CANNOT BE RELEVANT TO THE
53:55 - KIDS THIS IS THIS WILL NOT MAKE
53:57 - A FACT IN THE CASE ANYMORE
53:58 - LESS LIKELY. IT IS CLEARLY JUST
54:00 - MORE PREJUDICIAL PROTO TO USE
54:02 - EVIDENCE FROM THE FOREHAND.
54:04 - IN IN DETERMINING DOCTOR
54:05 - SHIPMAN'S PRACTICE.
54:08 - >>I'M GOING TO OVERRULE
54:09 - THE OBJECTION A LOT OF THESE IT
54:10 - SHOULD AND NEEDED AND PUBLISH
54:13 - THE JURY, YOUR ARGUMENTS.
54:16 - I THINK ANY FURTHER DID NOT
54:17 - CROSS EXAMINATION IF HE SHE
54:18 - SEES AS USUAL. THANK YOU
54:20 - PERMISSION PUBLISHER YOU MAKE.
54:24 - >>AGING COPELAND'S
54:25 - IN PLAIN LANGUAGE WHAT JUMPS
54:26 - OUT AT YOU DOCTOR SCHAEFER'S
54:28 - PRESCRIPTION RATES ON
54:29 - DOCUMENTS.
54:32 - CAN YOU GIVE A MOMENT THE
54:33 - JURY TO SEE THIS PERSON COMPANY
54:35 - CAN BE TRUSTED.
54:40 - ALL RIGHT I CAN SUMMARIZE THIS
54:42 - DOCUMENT FOR YOU A LOT JUMPS
54:43 - OUT BUT IF YOU LOOK IN THE 4TH
54:45 - COLUMN PAYNE WAYS PRESCRIBING
54:47 - RATE PER 100 PATIENTS. IN
54:50 - 2016 THAT PRESCRIBING RATE HAS
54:52 - HIT 84.3%
54:55 - THAT MEANS THAT MORE THAN 8 OUT
54:56 - OF EVERY 10 PATIENTS TO WALK
54:57 - THROUGH THE DOORS OF PAIN AWAY
54:59 - ARE WALKING OUT THE
54:59 - PRESCRIPTION FOR PILLS.
55:01 - I MEAN NO MATTER THE CLIENTELE
55:02 - YOU'RE SERVING THAT THAT NUMBER
55:03 - IS JUST ABSURD
55:04 - ADDITIONALLY IT SIGNIFICANTLY
55:06 - GREATER THAN THE
55:07 - NATIONAL AVERAGE. THIS IS ALSO
55:08 - DURING THE COURSE OF HAVING
55:09 - MAQDIS TREATMENT AND HOW DOES
55:11 - THIS COMPARE TO THE ORIGINAL
55:12 - PAINTING A CLINIC. IT'S NIGHT
55:14 - AND DAY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE
55:15 - FIRST COLOR, THE FIRST ROW IN
55:17 - 2010. 2.6% THE PAIN WAS
55:20 - PATIENTS ARE BEING PRESCRIBED
55:21 - OPIATES AND THIS IS DESPITE THE
55:22 - FACT THAT THEY WERE SERVING THE
55:24 - SAME COMMUNITY AND THE SAME
55:25 - PEOPLE.
55:27 - THANK YOU KNOW IT YOU'RE GOING
55:28 - TO GET THE DOCUMENTS I GOT A
55:29 - COMMISSION APPROACH WITH WHAT
55:30 - HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN MARKETED TO
55:31 - 10. YOU MAKE.
55:42 - NOW ASIAN COPELAND'S WHAT IS
55:44 - THIS DOCUMENT.
55:45 - THESE ARE THE PHYSICIAN TO
55:46 - PATIENT PRESCRIPTION RECORDS
55:48 - FOR 20 16 FROM THE WIZ WE
55:50 - PHARMACY INTO THE OCEAN AND HOW
55:51 - DID YOUR TEAM THIS DOCUMENT AND
55:53 - ITS DOCUMENTS OBTAINED BY
55:54 - SUBPOENA. IT'S ACTUALLY LEGAL
55:56 - REQUIREMENT FOR PHARMACIES
55:57 - DISPENSE RECORDS FROM THESE 2
55:58 - YEARS AND IS THIS A FAIR AND
55:59 - ACCURATE COPY. YES, IT S AND AT
56:02 - THIS POINT I MOVED TO ENTER ITS
56:03 - ATTENDANT EVIDENCE PUBLISHED
56:04 - TODAY. ANY ADDITIONAL
56:05 - OBJECTION, YOUR HONOR THANK YOU
56:06 - THAT WAS IT YOU MAKE.
56:22 - NO ASIAN CUP COPELAND'S WHAT
56:24 - JUMPS AT YOU ABOUT
56:24 - THIS DOCUMENT THEY GET QUITE A
56:26 - BIT JUMPS OUT BUT I'LL TRY TO
56:27 - SUMMARIZE IT IN THE INTEREST
56:29 - OF TIME. YOU SEE OVER THE
56:30 - COURSE OF 2016 DOCTOR SHAFER
56:32 - HAS A CLEAR AND OBVIOUS PATTERN
56:34 - OF PRESCRIBING A HIGH DOSAGE OF
56:36 - A POWERFUL NARCOTIC TO THE
56:37 - DECEASED HAVING MCADOO
56:38 - ADDITIONALLY OVER THE COURSE OF
56:40 - 2016 THE AMOUNT OF PILLS BEING
56:42 - PRESCRIBED DOUBLES FROM 60 TO
56:45 - 120.
56:47 - THANK YOU CAN PUT THAT
56:47 - DOCUMENTS CITE MARRIAGE AND
56:49 - COPE AND HOW DO YOU FURTHER
56:50 - INVESTIGATE
56:50 - THE DEFENDANT. SAW THESE
56:52 - NUMBERS AND YOU HAD TO DO SOME
56:53 - MORE DIGGING.
56:54 - SO I CONTINUE TO LOOK INTO
56:55 - THEIR FINANCIAL RECORDS AND TO
56:57 - CLOSELY MONITOR THEIR
56:58 - PRESCRIPTION PRACTICES. I CAME
56:59 - AWAY WITH 3 KEY PIECES
57:01 - OF INFORMATION. FIRST I NOTICED
57:03 - THAT THE MAJORITY OF PATIENTS
57:05 - 2015 16 WERE PAYING IN CASH.
57:07 - SECOND. I NOTICED THAT THEY
57:08 - WERE SEEN A GREATER NUMBER OF
57:10 - PATIENTS THAN THEY EVER HAVE
57:11 - BEFORE YOU ARE REALLY REACHING
57:12 - IN AND OUT WITH THE ASSEMBLY
57:13 - LINE 3RD, MORE PREJUDICIAL THAN
57:16 - PROBATIVE TO USE THE WORDS
57:17 - ASSEMBLY LINE.
57:19 - >>AND IF I MAY TO PICK A LOCAL
57:20 - TERM USED BY THIS AGAIN EXPERT
57:22 - IN THE HE WOULD KNOW SORT OF
57:24 - ANY RED FLAGS LIKE THESE.
57:26 - REFERRING TO AN END FOR THE
57:27 - MART ASSEMBLY LINE IT'S NOT
57:29 - TAKEN TO BE IT SHOULD BE TAKEN
57:30 - LITERALLY OF COURSE IT'S SIMPLY
57:32 - A SORT OF COMMON ANALOGY USED
57:34 - TO IT. SO IT COMMUNICATE.
57:36 - WE HONOR.
57:37 - >>REFERRING TO PAIN WAYS
57:38 - ANYTHING OTHER THAN A PAIN
57:39 - CLINIC IS INFLAMMATORY TO THE
57:40 - JURY TO SUGGEST
57:41 - THAT IT'S LIKE AN ASSEMBLY LINE
57:43 - WOULD BE SUGGESTING THAT DOCTOR
57:44 - SHE WOULD NOT CONDUCT COULD
57:46 - PRACTICE AT THE CLINIC AND THIS
57:47 - IS JUST SIMPLY INFLAMMATORY
57:48 - SAYS THEY CANNOT LAY FOUNDATION
57:49 - FOR
57:50 - THIS TERM.
57:50 - >>YOU'RE OUT OF TIME AT BELIEVE
57:52 - THE JURY IS I'M NOT GOING TO I
57:54 - WOULD HOPE AT LEAST THAT THE
57:55 - TAKE THIS LITERALLY TO MEAN THE
57:56 - PAIN AWAY WAS AN ACTUAL
57:57 - ASSEMBLY LINE SIMPLY AGAIN TO
57:59 - COMMUNICATE
57:59 - FACT THAT PATIENTS ARE GOING
58:01 - TOO FAST AND MANY WERE GETTING
58:02 - A SIMILAR TREATMENT.
58:03 - >>AND WAYNE TO SUSTAIN THE
58:04 - OBJECTION.
58:05 - >>AND I.
58:07 - >>STRAIGHT FACE ASSEMBLY LINE
58:08 - FROM THE RECORD. I THINK THAT
58:10 - YOU CAN GET YOUR POINT WITHOUT
58:11 - USING A PRIEST.
58:12 - YES, SIR.
58:13 - >>CAN YOU SAYING HOW YOU
58:15 - FURTHER INVESTIGATE THE
58:15 - DEFENDANT SURE SO I LIKE I SAID
58:17 - I SAW THAT THEY WERE SEEING A
58:18 - GREATER NUMBER OF PATIENTS THAN
58:20 - EVER BEFORE. AND 3RD, I NOTICED
58:22 - THAT SEVERAL OF THEIR PATIENTS
58:23 - WERE ACTUALLY FILLING THEIR
58:24 - PRESCRIPTIONS AT PHARMACIES UP
58:26 - TO 150 MILES AWAY.
58:28 - ALL 3 OF THESE BANKS WERE MAJOR
58:30 - RED FLAGS IN MY BEST AGAIN.
58:31 - IT CAN COPE AND ARE YOU
58:32 - FAMILIAR WITH THE TERM PILL
58:34 - MILL. YES, I AM OR PRODUCE THEM
58:36 - PROVE IT. YOUR HONOR I WITNESS
58:38 - WAS LIKE EXPLAIN HE WOULD START
58:40 - TELL THE JURY HOW THIS IS A
58:42 - TERM OFTEN USED IN DRUG
58:43 - DIVERSION.
58:43 - >>WHICH I HE IS A FIELD IN
58:45 - WHICH IS A QUALIFIED AS AN
58:46 - EXPERT FOR THEM OR AGAINST THE
58:47 - COLLOQUIAL TERM AND AS YOU
58:50 - WILL HEAR. USE IT'S USED OFTEN
58:53 - IN A
58:53 - NARCOTICS INVESTIGATION.
58:55 - >>YET IF I'M A PILL MILLS EVEN
58:56 - MORE INFLAMMATORY THAN ASSEMBLY
58:58 - LINE THIS IS NOT AN EXPERT
58:59 - TERMINOLOGY RATHER JUST SOME
59:01 - TERM THAT THEY USE GOING AROUND
59:03 - AT THE D A THIS IS SIMPLY
59:04 - TRYING TO INFLAME THE PASSIONS
59:05 - OF THE JURY AGAIN CALLING
59:06 - ANYTHING OTHER THAN A PAIN
59:07 - CLINIC WOULD BE UNFAIRLY
59:09 - PREJUDICING THE JURY TOWARDS MY
59:11 - CLIENT DOCTOR SHAFER YOU'RE
59:14 - >>TERMINOLOGY THIS EXPERT USES
59:16 - AND BELIEVE BECOMES EXPERT
59:17 - TERMINOLOGY REGARDLESS AGAIN
59:19 - SIMPLY A COLLOQUIAL TERM BUT AN
59:21 - IMPORTANT ONE IN
59:21 - DRUG DIVERSION. YOU KNOW
59:23 - THERE'S BEEN HUMAN EVEN IF THEY
59:24 - CONSIDER KILL NO EXPERT
59:25 - TESTIMONY YOU COULD STILL BE
59:27 - INFLAMMATORY TO THE JURY
59:28 - TO HEAR.
59:29 - >>SAYING CONSIDERING THAT THERE
59:30 - CAN CALLING DOCTOR SCHAEFER'S
59:32 - PAIN CLINIC, A PILL MILL THERE
59:33 - HAS BEEN NO FOUNDATION LAID AS
59:35 - TO HOW THEY COME TO THIS
59:36 - CONCLUSION, AND IT'S JUST
59:37 - COMPLETELY INFLAMMATORY AND IF
59:38 - I MAY IF I WAS LIED TO CONTINUE
59:40 - THIS WITNESS WOULD EXPLAIN HOW
59:41 - HE CAME TO THIS CONCLUSION AND
59:42 - GOING REALLY DIRECTION AT THIS
59:44 - TIME.
59:45 - >>AND GET THE WIN A SNAPPY TO
59:46 - ANSWER THAT QUESTION EXPLAIN
59:48 - THE POLICE AND FOUNDATION OF
59:49 - POSSIBLE YOU'RE FREE TO RAISE
59:50 - AND ACTION AGAIN. IF NECESSARY,
59:53 - YES, TRUMP HE CAN PROCEED.
59:54 - >>THE COUPLE ARE YOU FAMILIAR
59:55 - WITH THE TERM UNTIL NOW.
59:57 - IT'S AN BILL KNOWS A TERM USED
59:59 - 760 BY INVESTIGATORS SUCH AS MYSELF
01:00 - 02.260 IT'S VERY COMMON DESCRIBES A
01:00 - 04.150 PRACTICE DISTRIBUTES POWERFUL
01:00 - 05.710 NARCOTICS IN A MATTER THAT IS
01:00 - 07.180 NON-MEDICAL OR UNPROFESSIONAL
01:00 - 08.620 IN PRACTICE AND BASED ON YOUR
01:00 - 09.880 INVESTIGATION AND EXPERT
01:00 - 11.130 KNOWLEDGE THAT PAIN AWAY BECOME
01:00 - 12.300 A PILL MILL AND CERTAINLY
01:00 - 13.510 RESEMBLED ONE WHAT FURTHER
01:00 - 15.060 EVIDENCE TO HAVE SUPPORT THAT
01:00 - 16.890 CONCLUSION. WELL ONCE ACTUALLY
01:00 - 18.240 OBSERVE DOCTOR SHAFER AND
01:00 - 19.910 HAVING MCADOO EXCHANGING CASH
01:00 - 20.780 IN THE PARKING LOT.
01:00 - 22.440 NOW MOVING ON TO COPE AND ARE
01:00 - 24.730 YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE PM P YES,
01:00 - 25.970 I AM THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG
01:00 - 27.820 MONITORING PROGRAM. AND WHAT
01:00 - 29.210 EXACTLY DOES THE PMP DO.
01:00 - 31.610 WELL, IT GIVES DOCTORS WAIT YOU
01:00 - 32.990 KNOW ALL THE DRUG TO PATIENTS
01:00 - 34.310 BEING PRESCRIBED BY DOCTORS
01:00 - 35.410 OTHER THEMSELVES, IT'S
01:00 - 37.210 INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO ENSURE
01:00 - 38.130 THEY DON'T PRESCRIBE ANYTHING
01:00 - 39.740 CONFLICTING AND AND THE PATIENT
01:00 - 41.470 AND HOW ACCESSIBLE WAS THE PMP
01:00 - 42.320 TO DOCTOR SHAFER
01:00 - 44.340 INCREDIBLY ACCESSIBLE YOU CAN
01:00 - 45.340 EVEN DO IT ON YOUR PHONE THESE
01:00 - 46.990 DAYS, YES, LESS THAN A
01:00 - 48.870 FEW SECONDS AND THROUGHOUT THE
01:00 - 49.870 COURSE OF MS. MACKIE'S
01:00 - 51.130 TREATMENT TO ANYONE UP IN A WAY
01:00 - 53.060 NEVER CHECKED THE PNP NOW
01:00 - 54.930 NOBODY DID DESPITE THE FACT
01:00 - 55.880 THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE MADE
01:00 - 57.960 LAW IN 2 WEEKS IT WAS NO SECRET
01:00 - 58.840 THIS IS THE NEW NORMAL.
01:00 - 01.200 AND WERE THERE ANY OTHER WAYS
01:01 - 02.300 FOR DOCTOR SHAFER TO FIND OUT
01:01 - 04.060 ABOUT IS HAVING BACK IS
01:01 - 05.810 OTHER PRESCRIPTIONS. YES, THERE
01:01 - 07.710 WERE SHOULD FOR WHATEVER REASON
01:01 - 09.200 THE DOCTOR ELECTS NOT TO CHECK
01:01 - 10.500 THE PDI-P THERE'S ALSO THE
01:01 - 11.690 TRIED AND TRUE METHOD OF URINE
01:01 - 13.510 SCREENING. I DID DOCTOR SHAFER
01:01 - 14.490 ADMINISTER YOUR ON SCREEN.
01:01 - 17.080 NO DOCTOR SHAFER DID NOT AND
01:01 - 18.570 FINALLY AGING COPELAND BASED ON
01:01 - 19.760 YOUR EXPERT KNOWLEDGE AN
01:01 - 20.750 OPINION AS WELL AS
01:01 - 22.270 INVESTIGATION OF THIS CASE AND
01:01 - 23.350 REVIEW OF ALL RELEVANT RECORDS
01:01 - 24.450 HAVE YOU COME TO A CONCLUSION
01:01 - 25.610 WITHIN A REASONABLE DEGREE OF
01:01 - 26.670 PROFESSIONAL CERTAINTY ABOUT
01:01 - 28.250 THIS CASE HERE TODAY. YES,
01:01 - 30.050 I HAVE IT'S MY EXPERT OPINION
01:01 - 31.330 IN TODAY'S CASE THAT DOCTOR
01:01 - 32.630 SHAFER ENGAGED IN DRUG
01:01 - 34.040 DIVERSION DURING THE CARE OF
01:01 - 35.810 HAVING MCADOO THANK YOU NOTHING
01:01 - 37.000 FOR THANK YOU.
01:01 - 46.160 CROSSING THE NATION, YES, YOUR
01:01 - 46.380 HONOR.
01:01 - 54.320 THEY'RE FUSSY MAKE GOOD
01:01 - 55.950 AFTERNOON IN CHICAGO. YOU'RE
01:01 - 56.750 NOT A PHYSICIAN ARE YOU.
01:01 - 59.250 A DIVERSION INVESTIGATOR AND SO
01:01 - 00.020 YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO
01:02 - 00.920 PRESCRIBE MEDICATION.
01:02 - 03.370 NO I DON'T AND YOU NEVER HAD TO
01:02 - 04.360 MAKE THE DETERMINATION WHETHER
01:02 - 05.460 OR NOT TO PRESCRIBING OPIOIDS
01:02 - 07.040 TO PATIENTS BEEN PAID FOR IT.
01:02 - 09.370 NO I HAVE NOT BUT YOU'D AGREE
01:02 - 10.600 THAT SOME PATIENTS TO HAVE REAL
01:02 - 10.970 PAY
01:02 - 13.410 FOR IT FOR SOME PATIENTS TO AN
01:02 - 14.390 EFFECTIVE WAY OF DEALING WITH
01:02 - 15.660 THAT CAN SOMETIMES TREATED WITH
01:02 - 20.080 LID SORRY POWERFUL THAT IN SOME
01:02 - 21.300 CASES YOU SLEPT
01:02 - 23.280 AND SOME PATIENTS ARE SIMPLY
01:02 - 24.370 LINE TO GET MEDICATION OR
01:02 - 25.930 DOCTOR SHOPPING RIGHT CIRCLE TO
01:02 - 27.420 BE DONE SOME PATIENTS ARE LYING
01:02 - 28.870 TO GET MEDICATION OR DOCTOR
01:02 - 29.910 SHOPPING CORRECT.
01:02 - 32.100 >>THAT IS A COMMON PRACTICE
01:02 - 34.130 AMONG CLINICS AND IT'S
01:02 - 35.400 ULTIMATELY A JUDGMENT CALL TO
01:02 - 36.730 BE MADE BY THE DOCTOR TO ASSESS
01:02 - 37.700 WHAT SITUATION THEY'RE DEALING
01:02 - 38.360 WITH RIGHT.
01:02 - 41.510 >>AND YOU SAID IN YOUR WORDS
01:02 - 42.440 THAT A DOCTOR CAN MAKE AN
01:02 - 43.570 HONEST MISTAKE WHEN ASSESSING
01:02 - 44.670 THE SITUATION IS RIGHT.
01:02 - 47.530 THIS IS FROM A
01:02 - 48.340 WITNESS STATEMENT.
01:02 - 49.640 >>YOUR HONOR JUST BECAUSE
01:02 - 50.540 SOMETHING WAS SAID THE WITNESS
01:02 - 51.850 STATEMENT DOES NOT NECESSARILY
01:02 - 52.620 MAKE IT ADMISSIBLE
01:02 - 53.990 IN COURT THE OTHER PERSON'S
01:02 - 55.520 REAL 7 OH 3 THIS WITNESS IS AN
01:02 - 57.230 EXPERT IS LOVE TESTIFY ABOUT
01:02 - 58.430 INFORMATION, BUT THEY'RE NOT.
01:02 - 59.670 >>IT BE DEEMED ADMISSIBLE.
01:02 - 01.550 >>YOUR HONOR I HAVE NO PROBLEM
01:03 - 03.310 WITH THE EXPERT TESTIMONY
01:03 - 05.080 RATHER 2 OPPOSING COUNSEL IS
01:03 - 06.730 CALLING FOR THIS WITNESS TO
01:03 - 07.520 TESTIFY TO WHAT HE HAS
01:03 - 09.080 PREVIOUSLY SAID OUT OF COURT.
01:03 - 11.660 >>YET AGAIN TO SORT ALL 73.
01:03 - 13.140 AN EXPERT IS ALLOWED TO TESTIFY
01:03 - 14.350 TO EVIDENCE THAT MAY NOT BE
01:03 - 15.700 DEEMED ADMISSIBLE REGARDLESS OF
01:03 - 17.090 IF THEY CONSIDERED HEARSAY YOUR
01:03 - 18.440 HONOR FOR MY 73 IS NOT AN
01:03 - 19.510 EXCEPTION TO HEARSAY.
01:03 - 21.660 YOU ARE UNDER FOR EXPERTS IT IS
01:03 - 22.840 YOUR HONOR EVEN IF AN EXHIBIT
01:03 - 23.990 WAS HEARSAY AN EXPERT WOULD BE
01:03 - 25.120 ABLE TO TESTIFY TO THIS IF
01:03 - 26.400 THERE IS REASONABLY RELY ON THE
01:03 - 27.530 INFORMATION IN ORDER TO FORM
01:03 - 28.500 THEIR CONCLUSION. YOU'RE ON
01:03 - 29.650 EARTH OPPOSING COUNSEL IS ABLE
01:03 - 30.960 TO POINT TO ME WHERE AND WILL
01:03 - 32.220 73 THERE'S ANYTHING ABOUT
01:03 - 33.870 HEARSAY I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT
01:03 - 35.000 YOU'RE OUT OF THE RULE SAYS THE
01:03 - 36.430 EXPERTS ARE ALLOWED TO TESTIFY
01:03 - 37.370 TO INFORMATION THAT THEY WOULD
01:03 - 38.820 REASONABLY RELY ON IN THAT
01:03 - 40.260 PARTICULAR FIELD, WHETHER OR
01:03 - 41.580 NOT IF YOU DIDN'T MISS A BEAT.
01:03 - 42.620 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT
01:03 - 43.580 THIS QUESTION WAS BEING ASKED
01:03 - 44.340 TO BELIEVE THIS QUESTIONS
01:03 - 47.740 CONTROVERSY. WHY ASK THE
01:03 - 48.340 QUESTION AGAIN.
01:03 - 50.000 YES I WAS THINKING AND A DOCTOR
01:03 - 51.310 CAN MAKE AN HONEST MISTAKE WHEN
01:03 - 52.390 ASSESSING THE SITUATION.
01:03 - 57.130 >>I SUPPOSE IN CERTAIN
01:03 - 58.650 CIRCUMSTANCES, A DOCTOR COULD
01:03 - 59.690 MAKE AN HONEST MISTAKE.
01:03 - 00.970 >>NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR
01:04 - 02.180 INVESTIGATION INTO DOCTOR
01:04 - 04.090 SHAFER YOU WOULD AGREE THAT FOR
01:04 - 05.910 YEARS YOUR INVESTIGATION
01:04 - 07.390 INVOLVES SITTING IN YOUR CAR IN
01:04 - 08.970 PAIN WAS PARKING LOT LOOKING
01:04 - 09.880 FOR EVIDENCE AGAINST DOCTOR
01:04 - 10.790 SHAFER DONE THAT.
01:04 - 12.490 >>BOTH ENDEAVORS INVESTIGATION
01:04 - 13.800 OF A SUDDEN DIRECT HITS.
01:04 - 15.290 ALL ABOUT THE NUMBERS JUST A
01:04 - 15.550 CULT
01:04 - 17.810 RENT SO A LOT OF THE OTHERS
01:04 - 18.970 INVESTIGATION PROCESS IS
01:04 - 19.890 SITTING AND WAITING AND
01:04 - 21.220 COLLECTING DATA AND AGAIN 4
01:04 - 23.360 YEARS. YOU JUST COULDN'T MAKE
01:04 - 24.390 ANYTHING STICK THOSE ARE YOUR
01:04 - 27.610 GOT TO GET THIS IS GOING
01:04 - 29.030 DIRECTLY TO THE INVESTIGATION
01:04 - 30.790 BY A TICK OVER NIGHT 2 AS IT IS
01:04 - 32.230 CLEARLY RELEVANT IN THIS CASE
01:04 - 33.520 AND AGAIN PURSUED WILL 7 OH 3
01:04 - 34.880 IS ALLOWED TO TESTIFY TO THIS
01:04 - 36.000 YOUR HONOR IF I MAY IF THOSE
01:04 - 37.150 ACCOUNTS LIKE TO ASK WHETHER OR
01:04 - 37.850 NOT HE COULD MAKE
01:04 - 40.370 >>ANY IF WHETHER OR NOT THIS
01:04 - 41.540 WITNESS COULD MAKE ANYTHING
01:04 - 42.480 STICK. I'VE NO PROBLEM WITH
01:04 - 44.240 THAT. BUT WHEN HE SAYS THE EU
01:04 - 45.960 SAID THAT IS ASKING FOR AN OUT
01:04 - 47.760 OF COURT STATEMENT USED PROVE
01:04 - 48.470 THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER
01:04 - 50.380 ASSERTED IT, IT'S HIS OUT OF
01:04 - 51.800 COURT STATEMENT. YES.
01:04 - 53.800 >>LANG THE WITNESSES AVAILABLE
01:04 - 55.260 AT THE FIESTA. DYLAN IS THE
01:04 - 58.550 QUESTION. MR. THAT AND SO YOU
01:04 - 59.520 BELIEVE THAT.
01:05 - 04.210 DOCTORS ARE TIGER OK YOU'RE AN
01:05 - 05.290 EXPERT IN THIS CASE, CORRECT
01:05 - 06.780 AND AND SO YOU COMPLETE A
01:05 - 07.590 THOROUGH REVIEW OF ALL THE
01:05 - 08.700 MATERIALS IN ORDER TO FORM YOUR
01:05 - 10.430 CONCLUSIONS. I CERTAINLY DID SO
01:05 - 11.470 YOU'D BE FAMILIAR WITH THE
01:05 - 12.740 AMBIENT SUPPORT CHIEF UNITED
01:05 - 14.910 COACHES DEATH 12/16/2016,
01:05 - 16.280 WRECK. YES, I WOULD YOU ARE
01:05 - 18.030 AWARE THAT COACH MACK IS FOUND
01:05 - 19.590 UNCONSCIOUS AND UNRESPONSIVE IN
01:05 - 21.440 HER CHAIR. YES, AND THERE ARE
01:05 - 22.540 MULTIPLE PILL BOTTLES FOUND
01:05 - 24.270 AROUND HER. YES, SOME LOSERS,
01:05 - 25.330 MULTIPLE PRESCRIBERS
01:05 - 26.590 ALL RIGHT.
01:05 - 27.820 >>DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE
01:05 - 28.850 PRESCRIPTION PATTERNS AND
01:05 - 29.860 EILEEN O OF HIS REPORTING
01:05 - 31.350 MEMBERSHIP SHE WAS NOT THERE IS
01:05 - 32.580 SOME OF THOSE PILL BOTTLES WERE
01:05 - 33.020 EMPTY THOUGH.
01:05 - 35.000 BELIEVE THAT WAS WHAT WAS
01:05 - 35.880 REPORTED TO US AND THERE IS
01:05 - 37.620 ALSO ON THE AND ITS REPORT SHE
01:05 - 38.790 A TROPHY FROM MEXICO TO THE
01:05 - 39.090 BODY.
01:05 - 42.450 THAT THERE'S A TROPHY IN THE
01:05 - 44.710 ROOM, YES, THE YES,
01:05 - 47.100 MY QUESTION. I SUPPOSE NOW
01:05 - 48.150 LET'S TALK ABOUT COACHES
01:05 - 49.290 MEDICAL TREATMENT, YOU'D AGREE
01:05 - 49.450 WITH
01:05 - 51.230 ME THAT DOCTOR COACH MAGGIE WAS
01:05 - 52.000 RECEIVING TREATMENT FOR
01:05 - 53.410 MULTIPLE PHYSICIANS, CORRECT.
01:05 - 55.190 YESTERDAY, DIFFERENT KINDS OF
01:05 - 56.530 TREATMENT DOCTOR SHAFER FOR THE
01:05 - 58.650 PAIN BY MARGARET HAMBURG FOR A.
01:05 - 01.100 >>THE UNFORTUNATELY FOR HIS
01:06 - 02.210 ANTICS GOT A COMMISSION UP
01:06 - 03.070 FIRST THE WITNESS WOULD HAVE
01:06 - 04.220 BEEN PREVIOUSLY MARKED EXHIBIT
01:06 - 04.560 11.
01:06 - 05.970 >>NIC WHAT ARE LIKE A COPY.
01:06 - 07.130 I HAVEN'T THINK IT WOULD OPPOSE
01:06 - 09.190 A COUPLE OF CUP. YES.
01:06 - 12.440 THIS IS A COPY OF THE ONLY
01:06 - 13.390 SHOWS THE WITNESS.
01:06 - 23.310 ASIAN CUP AND THIS IS
01:06 - 25.210 THE PMP LARGER COACH MCADOO
01:06 - 26.160 FROM OCTOBER FIRST TO
01:06 - 28.100 12/16/2016 CORRECT.
01:06 - 31.440 AND HERE IT READ THIS DOCUMENT
01:06 - 33.380 ITSELF. YES, THERE AT THIS TIME
01:06 - 34.870 OF 2 MINUTES 11 AND EVIDENCE
01:06 - 36.560 ANY OBJECTION THAT STIPULATION
01:06 - 38.240 22 NO OBJECTION HERE. THANK YOU
01:06 - 39.970 SIGN IT. COMMISSION OPPOSED TO
01:06 - 40.790 THE JURY YOU MAKE.
01:07 - 05.540 IT'S A GOAL THAT WE CAN AGREE
01:07 - 06.770 THAT DOCTOR HAMBURG PRESCRIBE
01:07 - 09.190 XANAX TO COACH IN 11/30/2016
01:07 - 09.640 CORRECT.
01:07 - 11.900 YES, AND IF DOCTOR HAMBURG
01:07 - 13.300 CHECK THE PMP BEFORE
01:07 - 14.640 PRESCRIBING A COACH SHE WAS
01:07 - 15.990 SEEN EARLIER PRESCRIPTION FOR
01:07 - 17.430 OXYCODONE BUT DOCTOR SHAFER.
01:07 - 21.500 IF YOU'RE UP IN THE DESERT THAT
01:07 - 23.040 IS A QUESTION IF DOCTOR HAMBURG
01:07 - 24.500 CHECK THE PMP BEFORE
01:07 - 25.380 PRESCRIBING A COACH.
01:07 - 26.380 SHE WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT
01:07 - 27.310 EARLIER PRESCRIPTION FOR
01:07 - 28.610 OXYCODONE BUT DOCTOR SCHIPPER
01:07 - 30.750 CORRECT. THEORETICALLY, YES AND
01:07 - 32.180 YOU'RE AWARE THAT MUCH INVENTED
01:07 - 33.490 HAS BEEN SUCH AS AN EXTERNAL
01:07 - 34.840 VIEW IT CAN CAUSE DEATH RATE.
01:07 - 36.780 IT CAN YES SO DOCTOR HAMBURG,
01:07 - 37.850 OBVIOUSLY NEVER CHECKED THE PDA
01:07 - 39.320 PEOPLE THAT YOU JUST GOT YOUR
01:07 - 40.640 HAMBURGER IS NOT PRESENT TODAY
01:07 - 41.930 IN COURT NOR DOES DOCTOR
01:07 - 42.370 HAMBURG HAVE
01:07 - 45.040 ATTORNEY PRESENT AND SO I DON'T
01:07 - 46.530 BELIEVE THAT THIS ATTACK ON
01:07 - 47.950 DOCTOR EVER TO AGAIN IS NOT
01:07 - 49.230 PRESIDENT WERE CRIMINAL
01:07 - 50.340 CRIMINALLY LIABLE.
01:07 - 50.840 >>FOR THE
01:07 - 52.840 FOR THE DEATH OF COACH MCADOO
01:07 - 54.070 IS AT ALL APPROPRIATE. YEAH,
01:07 - 55.700 I'M NO WAY CLAIMING THAT DOCTOR
01:07 - 56.870 HAMMERS CRIMINALLY LIABLE IN
01:07 - 57.840 THIS CASE AS I'M AWARE
01:07 - 58.600 STIPULATION NUMBER
01:07 - 59.600 9 SAYING THAT.
01:08 - 01.470 >>DOCTOR HAMBURG PRESCRIBE
01:08 - 02.920 APPROPRIATELY PRESCRIBE XANAX
01:08 - 03.770 TO COACH MCADOO.
01:08 - 06.170 HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT SAY
01:08 - 07.340 WHETHER OR NOT DOCTOR HAMBURG
01:08 - 09.160 CHECK THE PMP WHAT I'M ASKING
01:08 - 10.800 HIM TO COPE AND IS IF THIS CAME
01:08 - 12.310 ACROSS IN HIS INVESTIGATION.
01:08 - 13.970 >>YOUR HONOR IN THAT CASE I
01:08 - 15.770 SUCH A PROJECT INTO RELEVANCE
01:08 - 17.020 WHETHER OR NOT DOCTOR HAMBURG.
01:08 - 18.400 CHECK THAT PMP I BELIEVE IS
01:08 - 19.990 WHOLLY IRRELEVANT TO GET DOCTOR
01:08 - 21.020 SCHAEFER'S TREATMENT OF MS.
01:08 - 22.370 MACK KNEW ON DECEMBER, 16 GOT
01:08 - 23.480 RESPONDING WITH THE
01:08 - 24.540 PROSECUTION'S BURDEN IN THIS
01:08 - 25.840 CASE IS THE SHOW THAT DOCTOR
01:08 - 27.150 SHAFER DIDN'T ACT IN GOOD FAITH
01:08 - 28.000 OR IN ACCORDANCE WITH A
01:08 - 28.950 RESPONSIBLE STATEMENT, THE
01:08 - 30.400 MEDICAL PROFESSION. THIS
01:08 - 31.410 DOCUMENT IS SHOWING THAT THERE
01:08 - 32.730 WAS MULTIPLE OTHER PHYSICIANS
01:08 - 34.660 TREATING COACH MCADOO WHO MAY
01:08 - 35.840 HAVE ACTED IN THE SAME EXACT
01:08 - 37.160 WAY THAT DOCTOR SHAFER DID
01:08 - 38.690 GOING AGAINST THE BURDEN OF THE
01:08 - 40.460 PROSECUTION THAT SHOULD ENACT A
01:08 - 41.730 COURTS WERE RESPONSIBLE SAYING
01:08 - 41.790 THE
01:08 - 43.810 MEDICAL PROFESSION, YOUR HONOR
01:08 - 45.000 AS WELL AS MY PREVIOUS
01:08 - 45.910 OBJECTION, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO
01:08 - 47.340 POINT OUT THAT THIS DOCUMENT IS
01:08 - 48.870 NOT THIS SPECIFIC DOCUMENT.
01:08 - 51.560 >>DOES NOT WHO CHECKED THE PMP
01:08 - 52.890 NOR THE RECORDS OF THE PNP
01:08 - 54.520 MARGARET HAMBURG MAY AS WELL
01:08 - 55.790 HAVE CHECKED THAT THE MP FOR
01:08 - 57.400 ALL WE KNOW, BUT AGAIN THAT IS
01:08 - 59.820 JUST NOT RELEVANT MOST
01:09 - 00.830 JOSHAN SHOULD
01:09 - 01.430 BE ADMISSIBLE.
01:09 - 03.550 >>I'M GOING OVERLY OBJECTION
01:09 - 04.840 YOU A PERSISTENT QUESTION.
01:09 - 06.690 >>AND SO DOCTOR HAMBURG OBVIOUS
01:09 - 07.840 NEVER CHECKED THE PMP THAT
01:09 - 09.610 DITCH. I DIDN'T INVESTIGATE
01:09 - 11.090 DOCTOR HAMBURG I DILIGENT THE
01:09 - 12.050 CIRCUMSTANCES OF.
01:09 - 12.950 >>OR TREATS SO YOUR
01:09 - 13.950 INVESTIGATION DIDN'T COME
01:09 - 14.830 ACROSS THAT SHE CHECKED THE
01:09 - 15.990 PIMP YOU'RE NOT CORRECT.
01:09 - 17.900 FOR DOCTOR HAMBURG, YES, THAT
01:09 - 19.630 WAS NOT OF INVESTIGATION OF
01:09 - 19.910 DOCTOR
01:09 - 21.460 SHAFER NOTE, YOU'RE AWARE THAT
01:09 - 23.950 ON 10/30/2016 DOCTOR HARRISON
01:09 - 25.220 PRESCRIBED OXYCODONE THE COACH
01:09 - 25.450 MAC
01:09 - 25.930 TO CORRECT.
01:09 - 27.330 >>YES AND AND IF DOCTOR
01:09 - 28.810 HARRISON TO CHECK THE PMP FOR
01:09 - 30.020 COACH BEFORE PRESCRIBING
01:09 - 31.100 HE WOULD HAVE SEEN EARLIER
01:09 - 32.130 PRESCRIPTION FOR XANAX BUT
01:09 - 33.130 DOCTOR HAMBURG RIGHT.
01:09 - 36.160 >>PMP LAWS WERE NOT PLACED A
01:09 - 38.510 POINT AND ALSO MY QUESTION.
01:09 - 40.520 COUNCIL IT UNDERSTAND QUESTION
01:09 - 41.680 I'M ASKING IF HE WOULD HAVE
01:09 - 42.800 SEEN THIS PRESCRIPTIONS, A
01:09 - 44.570 SIMPLE QUESTION. AGAIN I WAS
01:09 - 45.990 NOT INVESTIGATING DOCTOR HARRIS
01:09 - 46.780 AND SO I CAN NOT
01:09 - 48.020 MAKE AN ASSUMPTION ABOUT WHAT
01:09 - 49.240 HE WOULD OR WOULD NOT HAVE DONE
01:09 - 50.500 SO AGAIN IN ADDITION IS ABOUT
01:09 - 51.670 DOCTOR SHAPE. SO AGAIN IN YOUR
01:09 - 52.800 INVESTIGATION. YOU DIDN'T COME
01:09 - 54.330 ACROSS DOCTOR HARRISON CHECKING
01:09 - 55.320 THE PFA CORRECT.
01:09 - 56.990 BECAUSE WHEN THIS A GEISHA
01:09 - 58.310 WASN'T OF DOCTOR HARRIS.
01:09 - 00.080 YES, WE'RE AWARE THAT IT WOULD
01:10 - 01.240 HAVE BEEN LEGAL FOR ALL 3 OF
01:10 - 02.470 THESE DOCTORS NOT TO CHECK THE
01:10 - 02.770 P A
01:10 - 05.060 FEW TIMES MOST REQUIRED FOR AT
01:10 - 06.340 LEAST ONCE EVERY 3 MONTHS AND
01:10 - 07.670 IT WASN'T PUT IN PLACE EXACTLY
01:10 - 09.570 UNTIL 26 IT WASN'T LEGAL AT IT
01:10 - 11.160 WAS AMENDED AT THE TIME CORRECT
01:10 - 12.260 AT THE TIME IT WAS NOT
01:10 - 14.050 AND YOU COME TO COURT TODAY
01:10 - 15.730 CLAIMING THAT DOCTOR SHAFER TO
01:10 - 17.100 NECK, ACCORDING TO RESPONSIBLE
01:10 - 18.180 SAYING THE MEDICAL PROFESSION
01:10 - 20.560 CLAIM THAT THAT WAS NOT THE
01:10 - 21.920 CONCLUSION HE GOT HE MADE
01:10 - 23.510 TONIGHT OR TODAY EXCUSE ME OUT
01:10 - 24.730 OF THE WITNESSES WHO TESTIFIED
01:10 - 26.110 FOR THE PROSECUTION TO IS GOING
01:10 - 27.200 TO TESTIFY TOWARDS THEIR
01:10 - 30.370 QUESTION AS THE WITNESS YOUR
01:10 - 31.280 HONOR FOR ME HE HAS NOT
01:10 - 31.730 TESTIFIED TO
01:10 - 32.900 ITS BURDEN. THEY ARE THE
01:10 - 33.970 FOUNDATION OF THE WITNESSES
01:10 - 35.790 LATE ON DIRECT EXAMINATION WENT
01:10 - 37.270 TO GO TO SHOW THAT THEY WERE
01:10 - 38.310 TRYING TO MEET THEIR BURDEN.
01:10 - 39.910 I'M JUST SIMPLY ASK A FOLLOW-UP
01:10 - 40.930 QUESTION ON THIS THEY OPEN THE
01:10 - 42.370 DOOR ON DIRECT EXAMINATION BY
01:10 - 43.810 ASKING HIM QUESTIONS ABOUT
01:10 - 45.150 DRUG DIVERSION AND WHETHER OR
01:10 - 46.310 NOT THIS WAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH
01:10 - 47.440 OTHER DOCTORS YOU'RE IN A
01:10 - 48.810 FAMILY SMACK DRUG DIVERSION
01:10 - 50.170 WHICH HE'S AN EXPERT IN THIS
01:10 - 51.410 QUITLINE QUESTION IS ASKING
01:10 - 52.440 ASIAN CUP AND A DRY LEGAL
01:10 - 54.470 CONCLUSION WHICH IS NOT HIS JOB
01:10 - 55.470 NOR IS HE AN EXPERT
01:10 - 57.090 >>I BELIEVE THAT'S THE JOB OF
01:10 - 58.620 THE CHERRY NOT NECESSARILY COME
01:10 - 59.530 FROM VERY SPOTTY.
01:10 - 01.230 ALL I ASKED WAS IF YOU BELIEVE
01:11 - 02.520 THAT HE CAME IF HE CAME TO
01:11 - 03.350 COURT TODAY TO CLAIM THAT
01:11 - 04.280 DOCTOR SHEPPARD AND NECK,
01:11 - 05.310 ACCORDING TO THE RESPONSIBLE
01:11 - 06.550 SAYING THE MEDICAL PROFESSION
01:11 - 06.900 THAT'S ALL
01:11 - 07.750 ASTRONAUT IF.
01:11 - 08.940 >>HE BELIEVES THAT DOCTOR
01:11 - 09.900 SCHIPPER ACTED IN ACCORDANCE
01:11 - 10.970 WITH THEIR SPONSORS SAY MADE IT
01:11 - 11.870 SIMPLY SAY THAT.
01:11 - 13.250 >>THE SISTINE THE OBJECTIONS,
01:11 - 14.460 THEY SAY YOU'RE ASKING FOR
01:11 - 15.870 LEGAL CONCLUSION HE CAN ANSWER
01:11 - 16.230 IT.
01:11 - 18.850 AS AN EXPERT IN MAJOR DIVERSION
01:11 - 19.360 COACH THEIR
01:11 - 22.330 >>ASIAN CUP AND YOU DID NOT
01:11 - 23.940 INVESTIGATE ANY OTHER MEDICAL
01:11 - 25.280 PROFESSIONALS IN THIS CASE
01:11 - 26.310 OTHER THAN DOCTOR SHAFER
01:11 - 26.900 CORRECT.
01:11 - 28.820 >>IN THE CASE OF DOCTOR SHAFER
01:11 - 30.160 I DID NOT INVESTIGATE SOMEONE
01:11 - 31.220 OTHER THAN DOCTOR SHAPE.
01:11 - 32.500 THANK YOU I HAVE NO FURTHER
01:11 - 33.380 QUESTIONS THANK YOU.
01:11 - 43.910 IF YOU'RE A REDIRECT
01:11 - 45.820 EXAMINATION OF BRIEFLY ON THIS
01:11 - 47.070 IT CAN COPE AND ARE YOU
01:11 - 48.400 INVESTIGATING EITHER DOCTOR
01:11 - 49.710 HARRISON OR DOCTOR HAMBURG.
01:11 - 51.380 HOLMES, NOT AND
01:11 - 54.530 DID DOCTOR HARRISON'S OPIOIDS
01:11 - 56.850 KILL METHOD NO THEY DID NOT.
01:11 - 59.340 AND FINALLY IF DOCTOR SHAFER
01:11 - 02.190 HAD CHECKED THIS PD MP IN THE
01:12 - 03.720 LAST 3 MONTHS AGAIN, WHAT WOULD
01:12 - 04.000 DOCTOR
01:12 - 05.760 SHAFER FOUND DOCTOR SHAFER
01:12 - 06.980 WOULD HAVE FOUND HIS ANTICS
01:12 - 08.040 THAT WAS BEING PRESCRIBED BY
01:12 - 09.040 DOCTOR MARGARET HAMBURG.
01:12 - 10.250 A GOOD THING FOR
01:12 - 20.130 >>THE THING THAT CAN BE CURED.
01:12 - 35.420 >>THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE
01:12 - 37.740 PROSECUTION'S YES, YOUR HONOR,
01:12 - 38.800 THE COMMONWEALTH PRESS,
01:12 - 39.930 ALTHOUGH WE DO ASK FOR A BRIEF
01:12 - 41.560 TIME CHECK BEFORE MOVING ON TO
01:12 - 42.810 THAT THIS CASE IN CHIEF THEY
01:12 - 43.230 CAN'T.
01:12 - 48.100 >>COMMONWEALTH HAS 14 MINUTES,
01:12 - 50.260 36 SECONDS REMAINING.
01:12 - 56.360 >>BY MY CALCULATION I DON'T
01:12 - 58.460 KNOW IT. WE
01:12 - 00.640 PRAY, OKAY BY MY CALCULATION
01:13 - 03.490 THAT OFFENSE HAS 17 MINUTES 43
01:13 - 04.690 SECONDS REMAINING.
01:13 - 14.600 >>THIS IS FOUND IN HARRY REID'S
01:13 - 17.440 SEAT. THAT WAS SCHIEFFER TO
01:13 - 18.360 STAND THINK IT.
01:13 - 32.150 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE
01:13 - 34.900 COURT. MY NAME IS SCHIEFFER AND
01:13 - 36.760 WHAT IS YOUR OCCUPATION, I'M A
01:13 - 38.070 PAIN SPECIALIST THEM UP INTO
01:13 - 39.870 A CLINIC. I ATTENDED TEMPLE
01:13 - 41.270 UNIVERSITY FOR MEDICAL SCHOOL
01:13 - 42.870 AND COUNTY UNIVERSITY FOR MY
01:13 - 45.180 MEDICAL RESIDENCY. DOCTOR TELL
01:13 - 47.220 US. WHY DID YOU BECOME A PAIN
01:13 - 47.950 SPECIALIST.
01:13 - 50.820 I ASKED MYSELF THAT QUESTION A
01:13 - 52.260 LOT AND I ALWAYS COME BACK TO
01:13 - 54.280 THE SAME ANSWER BECAME A
01:13 - 55.890 PAIN SPECIALIST BECAUSE I
01:13 - 56.830 BELIEVE IN TREATING THE WHOLE
01:13 - 58.590 PATIENT, NOT JUST THEIR PAIN.
01:13 - 01.210 I'M NOT TREATING JUST A LAKE OR
01:14 - 02.820 AN ELBOW. I'M TREATING A
01:14 - 04.050 PATIENT'S MIND AND BODY.
01:14 - 06.290 I JUST LOST HIS HEALTHY MINDS,
01:14 - 07.460 HEALTHY BODY. AND
01:14 - 08.820 I FEEL THIS BY CREATING A
01:14 - 10.210 MUTUAL TRUST BETWEEN MYSELF
01:14 - 12.010 MY PATIENTS DOCTOR CAN YOU
01:14 - 13.610 EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY A
01:14 - 16.320 MUTUAL TRUST. YES, IT SIMPLY
01:14 - 17.400 MEANS THAT I HAVE TO TRUST MY
01:14 - 18.750 PATIENTS AND THEY IN TURN HAVE
01:14 - 19.450 TO TRUST ME.
01:14 - 21.450 A DOCTOR CAN ONLY KNOW SO MUCH
01:14 - 22.420 ABOUT HOW THEIR PATIENTS
01:14 - 24.300 FEELING. THEY HAVE NO OTHER WAY
01:14 - 25.290 OF KNOWING THE PATIENTS
01:14 - 27.220 INDICATION. WHAT MAKES PEN AWAY
01:14 - 28.580 SO EFFECTIVE IS THAT MY
01:14 - 29.980 COWORKERS AND I NEVER CAME TO
01:14 - 31.190 THE IDEA THAT WE CANNOT TRUST
01:14 - 33.580 THEIR PATIENTS. DOCTOR HOW DO
01:14 - 35.340 YOU TREAT THE PAIN THAT LIES
01:14 - 36.100 YOUR PATIENTS.
01:14 - 38.110 >>WELL, I HAVE ONE PRIMARY
01:14 - 39.590 APPROACH THIS LIST, IT'S
01:14 - 40.940 SIMILAR TO EASTERN MEDICINE.
01:14 - 42.470 I TREAT MY PATIENTS WITH
01:14 - 43.740 METHODS SUCH LOOK YOU
01:14 - 46.380 ACUPUNCTURE. NOW IF THIS ISN'T
01:14 - 47.300 WORKING TO THE BEST OF ITS
01:14 - 49.670 ABILITY. I DO TO IT DO TURN
01:14 - 50.970 TOWARDS PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION
01:14 - 52.260 AS MUCH SECONDARY OPTION
01:14 - 53.320 OF TREATMENT.
01:14 - 55.240 >>DOCTOR WHEN DO YOU DETERMINE
01:14 - 56.230 IF YOUR PATIENTS NEED
01:14 - 57.600 PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS.
01:14 - 59.770 >>WELL IF MY PATIENTS STILL
01:14 - 01.170 CLAIMS TO BE IN PAIN AFTER THIS
01:15 - 02.610 WAS A TREATMENT TREATMENTS.
01:15 - 03.670 I DO HAVE TO MOVE ON TO OTHER
01:15 - 05.300 OPTIONS. AND THIS IS AGAIN
01:15 - 06.520 WHERE THAT MUTUAL TRUST FOR
01:15 - 07.590 SUCH A LARGE ROLE
01:15 - 08.920 BECAUSE I ONLY PRESCRIBE HIS
01:15 - 10.080 PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS WHEN
01:15 - 12.330 ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. DOCTOR
01:15 - 13.730 WAS THEIR COMMON PROCEDURE PAIN
01:15 - 14.600 WAY FOR CHECKING WHAT
01:15 - 15.800 MEDICATIONS, YOU'RE PATIENTS
01:15 - 16.380 WERE TAKING.
01:15 - 18.920 >>MINERS KELSEY WOULD
01:15 - 20.050 INTERVIEWED THE PATIENT AND
01:15 - 21.820 FILL UP AND TAKE SHEET WHICH
01:15 - 23.360 WOULD LESS CURRENT MEDICATIONS
01:15 - 25.360 PAIN LEVELS AND STUFF
01:15 - 26.890 LIKE THAT. THIS IS HOW IT'S
01:15 - 28.580 BEEN AROUND SINCE 2010 WHICH
01:15 - 30.360 WHEN CAN WE OWN IT.
01:15 - 31.910 >>WHAT ABOUT CHECKING THE PD M
01:15 - 34.340 P WELL THE PMP HAD JUST BOUGHT
01:15 - 36.700 INTO THIS 2015 SO IS RELATIVELY
01:15 - 37.370 NEW AND NOT A
01:15 - 38.940 LEGAL REQUIREMENT. BUT IT WAS
01:15 - 40.450 SOMETIMES HELPFUL SO I DELEGATE
01:15 - 41.870 AND THEY'RE STILL SEE THE DA
01:15 - 43.560 END OF THE CAMPAIGN. THANK YOU
01:15 - 45.020 DOCTOR. AND I WANT TO TALK
01:15 - 45.800 ABOUT THE REASON WE'RE HERE
01:15 - 48.210 TODAY COACH HAVING MCADOO HOW
01:15 - 49.240 DID YOU MEET THIS PATIENT.
01:15 - 51.150 I WAS FIRST INTRODUCED TO
01:15 - 52.780 COACHELLA MCADOO IN JANUARY
01:15 - 55.410 2014 WHEN JJ TO EVEN REFER TO
01:15 - 57.030 MY CLINIC. IT CAME TO MY
01:15 - 57.960 ATTENTION THAT SHE WAS
01:15 - 59.430 SUFFERING FROM A VERY SERIOUS
01:15 - 00.970 FOR MCCAIN, SO SHE BECAME A
01:16 - 02.990 NATION. AND WHAT KIND OF PAIN
01:16 - 04.190 WAS COACH MCADOO SUFFERING
01:16 - 06.390 FROM. WELL IT'S CALLED PHANTOM
01:16 - 07.810 PAIN AND NOT A LOT IS KNOWN
01:16 - 08.940 ABOUT ACTUALLY AT LEAST HAD A
01:16 - 10.400 TREE THAT IT HAS NO
01:16 - 12.040 IDENTIFIABLE CAUSE SO CANNOT BE
01:16 - 13.850 TARGETED TO X-RAYS OR C T
01:16 - 15.670 STANCE AND ALTHOUGH IT HAS NOW
01:16 - 17.040 IDENTIFIED BECAUSE IT IS STILL
01:16 - 18.940 A VERY SERIOUS VERY REAL FOR
01:16 - 20.670 PAINT. SO HOW DID YOU HELP
01:16 - 21.760 COACH MCADOO WITH
01:16 - 23.980 HER PAIN. I FIRST STARTED
01:16 - 24.890 TREATING COACH WITH THE
01:16 - 26.470 COMBINATION OF ACUPUNCTURE
01:16 - 28.100 MIGHT CAN. NOW THIS IS
01:16 - 29.240 EFFECTIVE IN REDUCING HER
01:16 - 31.040 DISCOMFORT BUT I DECIDED TO
01:16 - 32.490 PRESCRIBE A LOW DOSE MIDDLE
01:16 - 33.730 OPIATE PRESCRIPTION TO
01:16 - 34.790 SUPPLEMENT THE ONGOING
01:16 - 36.430 TREATMENT. THE DOCTOR WANTED
01:16 - 37.510 SOMETHING CLIFF THE MEMBERS OF
01:16 - 37.990 THE JURY.
01:16 - 39.290 DID YOU USE A LIST OF
01:16 - 40.790 TREATMENTS ON COACH MACK DO
01:16 - 41.930 BEFORE DESCRIBING HER
01:16 - 43.190 PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS.
01:16 - 45.520 YES, AND THE DIAGNOSIS A SOUND
01:16 - 46.640 AND THESE TREATMENTS WERE
01:16 - 47.970 EFFECTIVE IN REDUCING HER
01:16 - 49.680 DISCOMFORT. THANK YOU DOCTOR.
01:16 - 50.940 I WANT TO FAST FORWARD TO
01:16 - 52.660 DECEMBER, 1620 16.
01:16 - 54.400 DID YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT
01:16 - 55.550 WITH COACH MCADOO ON A
01:16 - 57.600 SPECIFIC DATE, YOU KNOW THAT I
01:16 - 58.760 DID NOT IT WAS AT THE END OF
01:16 - 59.990 THE WORKDAY WAS PUTTING ON MY
01:16 - 01.230 COULD LEAVE THE OFFICE
01:17 - 02.430 AND THEN ALL THE SUDDEN ARE
01:17 - 03.970 STILL SHE BURST INTO THE OFFICE
01:17 - 05.320 PRACTICALLY JEN COACH BEHIND
01:17 - 07.000 HER. DOCTORS TO
01:17 - 08.460 YOUR KNOWLEDGE. WHY WAS
01:17 - 10.370 NASHVILLE SEE DRAGGING COACH
01:17 - 10.610 INTO
01:17 - 12.190 YOUR OFFICE, YOU KNOW, I ASKED
01:17 - 13.350 MYSELF THE SAME THING THAT I
01:17 - 14.520 GOT A GOOD LOOK AT COACH.
01:17 - 17.040 SHE WAS SWEATING SHAKING AND
01:17 - 17.150 COULD
01:17 - 19.820 BARELY SPEAK. DOCTOR TELL US
01:17 - 21.220 WHAT WERE YOU THINKING IN THIS
01:17 - 23.350 EXACT MOMENT. I WAS JUST
01:17 - 24.340 THINKING ABOUT HOW URGENT THE
01:17 - 25.690 SITUATION WAS I JUST RUSHED TO
01:17 - 27.390 HELP. I SCANNED OVER THE INTO
01:17 - 28.270 SHE THE NURSE TELLS THE
01:17 - 29.340 PREVIOUSLY FILLED OUT
01:17 - 31.230 AND XANAX WAS NOT ONE OF THE
01:17 - 32.640 CURRENT LIST OF MEDICATIONS.
01:17 - 34.270 YOU HAVE ANY OTHER INQUIRIES
01:17 - 34.820 ABOUT COACHES
01:17 - 36.900 CURRENT MEDICATIONS. YES, I
01:17 - 38.460 SPECIFICALLY ASKED NURSE KELSEY
01:17 - 39.540 IS COACH ON ANY OTHER
01:17 - 41.070 MEDICATIONS, AND THEY'RE STILL
01:17 - 41.590 SHE SAID NO.
01:17 - 43.710 DOCTOR CAN YOU FOR THIS TRACK
01:17 - 44.990 COACH MACK IS CONDITION WHILE
01:17 - 46.230 SHE WAS IN YOUR OFFICE
01:17 - 48.680 LIKE I SAID SHE WAS SWEATING
01:17 - 50.510 SHAKING AND COULD BARELY SPEAK
01:17 - 52.710 THEN HER FACE FOR THEIR TWISTED
01:17 - 54.530 IN AGONY. SHE BEGAN PULLING OUT
01:17 - 56.050 HER OWN HAIR AND YOUR BREATHING
01:17 - 57.380 BECAME VERY RACKET
01:17 - 59.120 DOCTOR WHAT DOES THIS KIND OF
01:17 - 00.810 PRESENTATION ME TO A PAIN
01:18 - 01.560 SPECIALIST.
01:18 - 04.330 SIMPLY PUT SHOESHINE CLEAR
01:18 - 05.640 DIAGNOSTIC SIGNS OF
01:18 - 08.120 OVERWHELMING PAIN. SO WHAT DID
01:18 - 08.910 YOU DO NEXT.
01:18 - 11.120 I DECIDED TO INJECT COACH THE
01:18 - 12.550 SHOT OF HYDROMORPHONE WHICH IS
01:18 - 13.630 A FORM OF THE NIGHT
01:18 - 15.050 AND THEN THIS INJECTION APPEAR
01:18 - 16.450 TO HELP COACH MCADOO IN
01:18 - 18.900 ANY WAY. YES AS SOON AS I GET
01:18 - 20.420 TO THE SHOT COACHES PAINS HIM
01:18 - 21.830 TO BE LIMITED. THANK
01:18 - 23.430 YOU DOCTOR. NOW AS THEY WERE
01:18 - 24.520 PUSHED BACK TO SAUDI PASSED
01:18 - 25.520 AWAY LATER THAT EVENING.
01:18 - 27.130 CAN YOU TELL THE MEMBERS OF THE
01:18 - 28.940 JURY. WELL, YOUR SPONSOR LIST
01:18 - 31.430 OF THIS. COACH KILL ME BECAUSE
01:18 - 31.730 SHE WAS
01:18 - 33.780 IN PAIN. THE PAIN SHE WAS IN
01:18 - 35.340 HAD NO IDENTIFIED THE CAUSE.
01:18 - 36.960 THE FACT IN THE OFFICE TOLD ME
01:18 - 37.860 HER PAYMENTS REAL.
01:18 - 40.240 I ALWAYS DO WHAT IS IN THE BEST
01:18 - 42.530 INTEREST OF MY PATIENTS TO HEAL
01:18 - 44.500 THEIR MIND AND BODY. LIKE I
01:18 - 45.470 SAID THAT'S WHY I BECAME A
01:18 - 47.710 DOCTOR. I'M A HEALER AND I
01:18 - 49.100 WORKED HERE MY PATIENTS PAIN.
01:18 - 51.910 DOCTOR HAS ANYTHING LIKE THIS
01:18 - 53.240 EVER HAPPENED IN PAIN WITH
01:18 - 54.530 HISTORY. YOU KNOW,
01:18 - 56.300 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ANYTHING
01:18 - 57.840 LIKE THIS OR ANY OVERDOSES EVER
01:18 - 59.060 HAPPENED IN US HISTORY.
01:18 - 02.230 DOCTOR ON DECEMBER 16TH 2016.
01:19 - 04.130 AFTER COACH MCADOO HAD LEFT HER
01:19 - 07.030 OFFICE ARE YOU CONFIDENT IN THE
01:19 - 08.230 TREATMENT TO USED ON HER.
01:19 - 11.010 YES I BELIEVE I DID WHAT ANY
01:19 - 13.200 OTHER DOCTOR DO. I USE MY
01:19 - 15.100 MEDICAL TRAINING MY EXPERIENCE
01:19 - 16.220 IN MY BEST JUDGMENT
01:19 - 18.080 TO ASSESS THE SITUATION AND
01:19 - 19.150 DETERMINE WHAT WAS BEST FOR
01:19 - 20.940 COACHING HER PAIN. THANK YOU
01:19 - 21.760 YOUR HONOR, NO FURTHER
01:19 - 22.950 QUESTIONS THE.
01:19 - 44.600 NOW
01:19 - 45.480 DOCTOR SCHIEFFER
01:19 - 47.290 WHEN YOU OPEN TO PEEL AWAY YOU
01:19 - 48.340 OPENED IT WITH CLOSE TO
01:19 - 50.270 CONTENTIONS CRACKED. YES
01:19 - 52.340 AND SO AS A PART OF LIST A
01:19 - 53.690 TREATMENT UNIT MINISTER URINE
01:19 - 55.190 TEST YOUR PATIENTS RIGHT.
01:19 - 56.810 >>NO I DID NOT I THOUGHT IT WAS
01:19 - 58.540 A SOMEWHAT INVASIVE AND I
01:19 - 00.100 WANTED TO PORTRAY THIS MUTUAL
01:20 - 02.040 TRUST TO MYSELF MY PATIENTS AT
01:20 - 03.410 THIS POINT AS HIS SON DIRECT
01:20 - 04.670 YOUR PRESCRIBING OPIOIDS AS A
01:20 - 04.970 LAST
01:20 - 05.860 RESORT RIGHT.
01:20 - 07.370 >>I WOULD DESCRIBE IN MY
01:20 - 08.930 PATIENTS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
01:20 - 10.420 RIGHT IN YOUR OKAY PRESCRIPTION
01:20 - 11.890 RATES WERE BELOW 10% WHEN YOU
01:20 - 13.980 FIRST OPENED CORRECT. YES.
01:20 - 16.050 AND THEN HURRICANE SANDY AT
01:20 - 17.950 YOUR CLINIC TINTED YES AND
01:20 - 19.610 THAT'S OUR BANKRUPTCY RIGHT.
01:20 - 21.310 YES, WE HAD A LOT OF FLOOD
01:20 - 22.790 INSURANCE AND EVERYTHING NOT
01:20 - 24.630 COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED THE PLACE
01:20 - 26.340 WHERE AT ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND
01:20 - 27.650 WE UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO DECLARE
01:20 - 29.180 BANKRUPTCY RIGHT THEY ARE ABLE
01:20 - 30.590 TO REOPEN THE CLINIC AGAIN IT
01:20 - 32.190 WAS CRACKED. YES, YOU KNOW,
01:20 - 33.130 SHE'S HAPPY TO PRACTICE
01:20 - 34.650 MEDICINE AGAIN AT THIS POINT
01:20 - 36.120 YOU'RE BOTH PRESCRIPTION RATES
01:20 - 37.420 WERE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN
01:20 - 38.990 NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR THAT.
01:20 - 40.700 YES, NOT BECAUSE MY PRACTICE
01:20 - 42.450 CHANGE BECAUSE OF THE SHEER
01:20 - 43.730 VOLUME OF PATIENTS WHO NEEDED
01:20 - 44.030 THEM I
01:20 - 46.150 WAS TREATING PEOPLE WHO NEED TO
01:20 - 47.230 GET RIGHT BACK TO WORK YOU
01:20 - 48.530 COLLAR WORKERS PEOPLE WHO
01:20 - 49.970 DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO GO DO
01:20 - 51.240 ACUPUNCTURE MIGHT A CANE
01:20 - 52.720 PEOPLE WHO NEED THESE OPIOIDS
01:20 - 53.970 TO SUPPLEMENT THEM THINKING
01:20 - 55.690 DOLLAR SHIP FOR NOW JUST TO BE
01:20 - 57.300 CLEAR. THIS ISN'T THE SAME
01:20 - 58.820 TOWN. WE'RE HOPE YOUR
01:20 - 00.520 PRESCRIPTION RATE WAS 10%
01:21 - 02.030 CORRECT. IT'S AROUND THE SAME
01:21 - 03.190 AREA BUT I WAS STILL TREATING A
01:21 - 04.830 VERY DIFFERENT CLIENTELE BASIS.
01:21 - 06.450 EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE NOW
01:21 - 08.570 PRESCRIBING ALMOST 80% OF YOUR
01:21 - 10.670 PATIENTS OPIOIDS YOU STILL ARE
01:21 - 12.330 RUNNING YOUR TEST CORRECT.
01:21 - 14.610 WHEN THE PRACTICE TO WHEN
01:21 - 15.870 EVERYTHING HAPPENED I STILL
01:21 - 17.110 WANTED TO KEEP THE SAME IDEALS
01:21 - 18.470 I WAS STILL PAIN AWAY.
01:21 - 20.000 SO WANTED TO HAVE THAT MUTUAL
01:21 - 21.200 TRUST BETWEEN MYSELF AND MY
01:21 - 22.780 PATIENTS. THANK YOU NOW, LET'S
01:21 - 23.900 TALK MONEY THAT COULD AFFECT
01:21 - 25.530 YOU. YOU SAID YOU PRESCRIBE
01:21 - 26.600 OPIOIDS AS A LAST
01:21 - 28.330 RESORT, CORRECT. I SAID I
01:21 - 30.030 PRESCRIBE THEM WHEN NECESSARY.
01:21 - 32.070 SO IT WAS NECESSARY TO BE
01:21 - 33.330 PRESCRIBING ROCKS A COAT AND
01:21 - 33.760 FOR NEARLY
01:21 - 37.570 3 YEARS. COACH TO SUFFER FROM
01:21 - 39.230 PHANTOM PAIN AND I STARTED OFF
01:21 - 41.220 WITH A CONCUSSION LIKE A CANE
01:21 - 42.620 AND BECAUSE PHANTOM PAIN A
01:21 - 43.970 SNOWMAN TO PAIN AND THERE'S NO
01:21 - 45.370 IDENTIFIED THE CAUSE IT
01:21 - 46.440 TECHNICALLY CANNOT BE TREATED
01:21 - 47.620 WITH ACUPUNCTURE AND I BECAME
01:21 - 49.060 SO I DID SEE OPIOIDS IN A
01:21 - 50.460 SERIOUS SITUATION THAT SHE
01:21 - 51.690 COULDN'T IS HIGHLY ADDICTIVE
01:21 - 53.510 ISN'T IT. IN CERTAIN CASES IT
01:21 - 55.090 CAN BE AND YOU'RE PRESCRIBING
01:21 - 57.090 CONTRACT TO FOX TO CUT IT FOR 3
01:21 - 59.170 YEARS RIGHT. BUT YES BECAUSE I
01:21 - 01.150 STOPPED AND SITUATION. NOW
01:22 - 02.590 LET'S TALK ABOUT DECEMBER, 16
01:22 - 04.780 COACH MAC AND YOU CAN CORRECT.
01:22 - 07.480 YES AND YOU HAD YOUR STARTED IN
01:22 - 07.710 TAKE
01:22 - 09.280 SHE CRACKED. YES, IT IS
01:22 - 10.240 STANDARD PROCEDURE AT THE
01:22 - 11.810 OFFICE AND THIS IS WHAT YOU
01:22 - 13.510 RELIED UPON BEFORE TREATING
01:22 - 14.720 COULD NOT DO CRACKED,
01:22 - 16.330 I'VE RELIED UPON THEIR SKILLS
01:22 - 17.780 GOING UP INTO SHE AND ALSO
01:22 - 19.320 NURSE KELLY THERE'S COUNTY
01:22 - 20.960 CHECKING THE PD AND GET BUT AS
01:22 - 22.350 YOU SAY IN YOUR DRAFT COACH
01:22 - 24.050 MCADOO COULD BARELY SPEAK
01:22 - 26.690 COUNTRY. SHE WAS SWEATING AND
01:22 - 28.160 SHAKING AND COULD BARELY SPEAK
01:22 - 29.610 RIGHT WHEN YOU SLIDE IT IN TAKE
01:22 - 31.050 SHE THE PATIENT
01:22 - 32.760 SPEAKS TO THE NURSE ABOUT WHAT
01:22 - 33.860 IS GOING TO BE FILLED OUT AND
01:22 - 35.290 TAKE SHE IS NOT RIGHT, YES, AND
01:22 - 36.210 THAT'S WHY EXPECTING NURSE
01:22 - 37.600 TELLS YOU TO DO IS YELL THIS
01:22 - 38.870 DOESN'T CHECK THE PNP TO
01:22 - 39.200 CONFIRM
01:22 - 40.940 THESE MEDICATIONS. BUT YOU
01:22 - 42.160 GREETED HIS COUSIN THERE WASN'T
01:22 - 43.640 TIME TO CHECK THE PDA P ON THAT
01:22 - 45.480 DAY CORRECT AND NOT THAT THERE
01:22 - 47.470 WASN'T TIME TO CHECK THE WHEN
01:22 - 49.020 THE WHOLE SITUATION SAID WENT
01:22 - 50.280 DOWN. SHE SAID WE DON'T HAVE
01:22 - 52.150 TIME AND TIME FOR THIS NIGHT TO
01:22 - 53.590 THAT AS YOU DON'T HAVE TIME FOR
01:22 - 54.600 THIS CONVERSATION YOU HAVE TO
01:22 - 55.840 TRUST ME TO DO MY JOB.
01:22 - 57.180 WELL YOU TAKE THE PATIENT BACK
01:22 - 58.640 IN THE TREES ARE SO YOU HAVE
01:22 - 00.240 TIME FOR THIS THE YOU HAD TIME
01:23 - 01.910 TO STOP AND HAVE THE PATIENTS
01:23 - 03.590 SIGN A WAIVER THAT LEAVES
01:23 - 05.600 YOU LIABILITY. IT IS GENERAL
01:23 - 06.890 PRACTICE BECAUSE OF THE DOSAGE
01:23 - 09.740 OF THE. SHOT BUT WHILE SHE WAS
01:23 - 11.330 SIGNING THIS WEAVER, YOU KNOW
01:23 - 12.360 THAT SHOULD BE UP HE WASN'T
01:23 - 13.340 GETTING CHECKED CRACKED.
01:23 - 15.160 I RELY ON THEIR SKILLS TO DO
01:23 - 17.480 SO. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR TO
01:23 - 19.540 THE JURY. YOU GAVE PUSH BACK
01:23 - 21.210 INTO A STRONG SHOT OF
01:23 - 23.790 HYDROMORPHONE CRACKED YES TO
01:23 - 24.520 RELIEVE HER PAIN
01:23 - 26.210 HAVING NEVER MINISTER URINE
01:23 - 27.610 TEST IN HER ENTIRE COURSE OF
01:23 - 29.310 TREATMENT CRACKED AGAIN I
01:23 - 30.850 THOUGHT IT WAS INVASIVE AND I
01:23 - 31.450 WANT TO COME
01:23 - 33.450 KEEP THAT MUTUAL TRUST BETWEEN
01:23 - 35.210 MYSELF MY PATIENTS AND RELYING
01:23 - 36.780 ON YOUR NURSE AND THE WORD OF
01:23 - 37.960 THE NOT THE PATIENT COULD
01:23 - 39.960 BARELY SPEAK THE FORMER TO
01:23 - 41.860 TREATMENT I RELIED ON NURSE
01:23 - 43.150 KELSEY FILLING UP THE INTAKE,
01:23 - 44.480 SHE'S SPEAKING TO THE PATIENT
01:23 - 45.700 AND THEN HER FURTHERMORE
01:23 - 48.010 CHECKING THE PNP TO CONFIRM THE
01:23 - 49.590 CURRENT MEDICATIONS JUST
01:23 - 52.020 BE CLEAR. YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF
01:23 - 53.060 PAINT WHITE CORRECT.
01:23 - 54.890 YES, I AM IN CHARGE AND BEING
01:23 - 56.400 IN CHARGE ME AND I CAN DELEGATE
01:23 - 57.510 CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITIES TO
01:23 - 58.980 PEOPLE WHO ALSO WERE CAMPAIGN
01:23 - 00.030 OF COURSE, BUT IN THE END OF
01:24 - 01.470 THE DAY YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR
01:24 - 02.760 HAPPENS AT YOUR CLINIC IS
01:24 - 04.080 NOT RIGHT. YES, I AM
01:24 - 05.830 RESPONSIBLE BUT I CAN STILL
01:24 - 07.080 DELEGATE RESPONSIBILITIES TO
01:24 - 08.880 PEOPLE WHO WORK AT MY CLINIC OF
01:24 - 10.700 COURSE OUT COACH MCADOO DIED OF
01:24 - 12.850 A COMBINATION OF OPIOIDS AND
01:24 - 15.240 XANAX CRACKED. YES, HE THAT IS
01:24 - 16.200 SHOE BUT WHEN I LOOKED A
01:24 - 18.230 TOXICOLOGY REPORTS LOVE IS A
01:24 - 19.460 MEDICATION THAT ARE PRESCRIBED
01:24 - 20.180 TOO MUCH HIGHER
01:24 - 21.820 SO REGARDLESS THESE ARE OPIOIDS
01:24 - 23.480 THAT YOU ARE PRESCRIBING FOR 3
01:24 - 25.270 YEARS TO COACH MCADOO CRACKED
01:24 - 26.400 YES, BUT THEY WERE MUCH HIGHER
01:24 - 27.600 THAN WHEN I FIRST GOT IT,
01:24 - 28.570 THANKS YOUR HONOR FOR
01:24 - 29.690 QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
01:24 - 46.400 THE PARTNERSHIP FOR WHOSE JOB
01:24 - 47.660 WAS IT TO CHECK THE P A P
01:24 - 49.280 IT WAS ALWAYS NURSE TELLS HIS
01:24 - 50.920 JOB TO CHECK THE PNP AND PHIL
01:24 - 51.700 CAN TAKE SHEET AT
01:24 - 53.710 THE OFFICE DOCTOR WHO PUT UP
01:24 - 55.320 THE INTAKE SHE ON DECEMBER 16TH
01:24 - 57.340 2016. THEY'RE STILL SEE THAT
01:24 - 58.400 THANK YOU ARE NO FURTHER
01:24 - 59.340 QUESTIONS HERE.
01:25 - 04.860 AFTER SHE FOR HIS NAME IS ON
01:25 - 06.020 THE PRESCRIPTIONS THAT YOU
01:25 - 07.740 PRESCRIBE DOES NOT CUT IT, I
01:25 - 09.280 PRESCRIBE THEM. THANK YOU FOR
01:25 - 10.340 THE QUESTIONS THANK YOU.
01:25 - 25.590 THE DEFENSE CALLS MUST SOW
01:25 - 26.430 ADDED TO THE STAND.
01:25 - 37.970 THEY STAND IN FOR
01:25 - 40.450 THE JURY SAL AT IT THIS AD IT
01:25 - 41.190 WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT
01:25 - 42.800 OCCUPATION. WELL I AM A
01:25 - 44.340 CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER A
01:25 - 46.160 CERTIFIED ACTUARY AND CERTIFIED
01:25 - 47.800 PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT AND WHERE YOU
01:25 - 49.200 CURRENTLY EMPLOYED OUT AT THE
01:25 - 50.550 PAY TO A CLINIC WIND THE DE
01:25 - 52.150 FACTO ACCOUNTANT WHAT ARE YOU
01:25 - 53.430 ABLE TO DO AS THE DEFACTO
01:25 - 55.230 COUNTER PAIN AWAY. WELL I'M
01:25 - 57.970 ABLE TO REVIEW ASSESS ANALYZE
01:25 - 58.830 AND DETERMINE WHETHER THE
01:25 - 00.410 BUSINESS IS FINANCIALLY STABLE
01:26 - 00.790 OR NOT.
01:26 - 02.050 >>AND WHAT WAS THE FINANCIAL
01:26 - 03.400 STATUS OF THE PAIN TO A CLINIC
01:26 - 03.490 IN
01:26 - 07.010 2016. I'M A 2016 THE CLIENTELE
01:26 - 09.150 HAS SHIFTED FROM CELEBRITIES TO
01:26 - 10.240 BLUE COLLAR WORKERS.
01:26 - 11.770 >>AND DOCTOR SHAFER IS WORKING
01:26 - 13.010 REALLY HARD AND ALL THE
01:26 - 14.330 FINANCIAL PROBLEMS APPEAR TO BE
01:26 - 15.100 IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR.
01:26 - 16.690 >>IS IT THROUGH EMPLOYMENT THAT
01:26 - 17.760 YOU MET DOCTOR SHAFER
01:26 - 20.720 NO ACTUALLY I HAD A BAD FALL OF
01:26 - 22.890 SKIING IN WYOMING IN TUSCANY I
01:26 - 24.480 BROKE MY COLLARBONE SEPARATED A
01:26 - 25.970 SHOULDER EVEN TO MY ROTATOR
01:26 - 28.430 CUFF FOR 3 YEARS NOTHING WORK
01:26 - 30.330 TO ALLEVIATE MY PAIN. I WAS IN
01:26 - 31.530 AN OCEAN OF PAIN
01:26 - 32.710 AND THAT'S WHEN I STARTED TO
01:26 - 33.750 SEEK OUT OF PAIN MANAGEMENT
01:26 - 35.150 SPECIALIST AND I DECIDED ONE
01:26 - 37.000 DOCTOR SHAFER WELL WHAT MADE
01:26 - 38.320 YOU SELECT DOCTOR SHAFER HAS
01:26 - 40.010 YOUR PAIN MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST
01:26 - 41.700 DOCTOR SHAFER HAD A REALLY GOOD
01:26 - 43.190 REPUTATION FOR USING HOLISTIC
01:26 - 43.860 METHODS TO TREAT
01:26 - 45.860 THEIR PATIENTS. ASSAULT ALSO
01:26 - 46.980 RECOMMENDED TO SOME OTHER
01:26 - 48.180 DOCTORS SUCH AS DOCTOR
01:26 - 50.160 PHIL HARRISON BUT I DO NOT WANT
01:26 - 51.310 TO ATTEND SAYS HE HAD A
01:26 - 52.630 REPUTATION FOR JUST GIVING OUT
01:26 - 53.870 PILLS OF THE FIRST AS IT
01:26 - 55.730 HOW LONG DID YOU THEN SHE WITH
01:26 - 57.370 DOCTOR SHE FOR 4. FOR
01:26 - 58.810 4 MONTHS. DOCTOR
01:26 - 59.720 SCHIEFFER SHE ME WITH
01:26 - 01.870 EVERYTHING FROM ACUPUNCTURE
01:27 - 04.640 TOPICAL CREAMS TO EVEN A VERY
01:27 - 06.330 LOW DOSE OPIOID MEDICATION
01:27 - 08.340 AND AFTER THOSE 4 MONTHS I WAS
01:27 - 10.680 COMPLETELY PAIN FREE. I HAD MY
01:27 - 12.290 LIFE BACK. I WAS EVEN BACK TO
01:27 - 14.240 PLAY BASKETBALL. TO DOCTOR
01:27 - 15.990 SHAFER WAS THE BEST DECISION I
01:27 - 17.750 EVER MADE. NUMBNESS ATTA AND
01:27 - 19.030 LIKE TO SHIFT YOUR ATTENTION TO
01:27 - 20.250 ANOTHER PATIENT OF THE PAIN WE
01:27 - 22.250 CLINIC COACH HAVING MCADOO DID
01:27 - 24.150 YOU KNOW COACH MCADOO YEAH
01:27 - 25.420 COACH WASN'T JUST MY FRIEND,
01:27 - 27.350 SHE WAS MY ROLE MODEL. WELL HOW
01:27 - 28.160 LONG DID YOU KNOW YOUR ROLE
01:27 - 30.150 MODEL FOR I KNEW COACH THAT
01:27 - 32.170 ENDED WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL AND
01:27 - 33.260 DURING THEIR FRIENDSHIP SHE
01:27 - 35.310 TAUGHT ME SO MANY LIFE VALUES.
01:27 - 36.700 WELL CAN YOU FORM THE JURY OF
01:27 - 37.930 SOME OF THOSE LIFE VALUES THAT
01:27 - 39.090 YOUR ROLE MODEL HAD TAUGHT YOU.
01:27 - 41.920 COACH I EST YOU WORK HARD AND
01:27 - 42.510 YOU PLAY HARD.
01:27 - 44.400 HE TAUGHT US TO BE TOUGH AND HE
01:27 - 46.320 NEVER HAD ANY REGRETS AND THIS
01:27 - 47.620 IS HOW SHE LIVED EVERY MINUTE
01:27 - 48.250 OF HER LIFE
01:27 - 50.030 AT LEAST UNTIL HE LEFT WITH THE
01:27 - 51.920 HIGH SCHOOL AT THE END OF 2013.
01:27 - 53.710 WELL WHAT CHANGES DID YOU
01:27 - 56.080 OBSERVE IN 2013 WITH ACCIDENT.
01:27 - 57.690 WELL AFTER SHE LEFT HER JOB.
01:27 - 59.540 HER HUSBAND HAD DIED OF CANCER.
01:28 - 01.760 AND SHE STARTED TO COMPLAIN YOU
01:28 - 02.970 MORE AND MORE ABOUT
01:28 - 05.440 HER PAIN. SHE EVEN START USING
01:28 - 07.220 A WALKER SOMETIMES SHE LOOKS
01:28 - 09.200 ROUGH. SHE BECAME A DIFFERENT
01:28 - 12.080 PERSON, A SATURN PERSON, ALMOST
01:28 - 14.010 A MOROSE PERSON. WELL DID YOU
01:28 - 15.240 DO ANYTHING TO HELP HER OUT OF
01:28 - 17.110 THIS STAGE OF COURSE
01:28 - 19.400 I DID I TOOK HER OUT TO EAT AND
01:28 - 21.010 OVER WHEREVER SHE NEEDED TO GO
01:28 - 22.960 LIKE TO DOCTOR TO THE PHARMACY
01:28 - 24.370 IS IT THROUGH THESE PHARMACY
01:28 - 25.480 VISITS THEY LEARNED FROM COACH
01:28 - 26.040 IS TREATING WITH.
01:28 - 28.700 YES, LIMIT COACHES CHEATING A
01:28 - 30.230 DOCTOR THAT THE HAIRS AND THE
01:28 - 31.850 SAME DOCUMENT NOT WATCHING MY
01:28 - 33.880 PAIN. SO WHEN I HEARD THIS I
01:28 - 34.930 KNEW THINGS HAVE GOTTEN BAD.
01:28 - 36.120 DID YOU EVER AND
01:28 - 37.550 DOCTOR SHAFER OF ANY YOUR
01:28 - 40.210 CONCERNS WITH COACH MCADOO NO
01:28 - 42.130 THAT WAS NOT MY PLACE AT ALL I
01:28 - 43.170 LOVE TO COACH THE TELLER
01:28 - 44.600 POSITION WHAT SHE HAD TO KNOW.
01:28 - 46.510 I RESPECTED HER PRIVACY AND I
01:28 - 47.830 AM NOT A MEDICAL EXPERT.
01:28 - 49.850 NOW I'D LIKE TO SHIFT ATTENTION
01:28 - 50.870 BACK SHARE PERSONAL
01:28 - 51.680 RELATIONSHIP WITH
01:28 - 54.060 COACH MCADOO CAN YOU FORM A
01:28 - 55.950 JURY OF YOUR LAST INTERACTION
01:28 - 57.610 WITH YOUR ROLE MODEL COACH
01:28 - 58.080 MCADOO.
01:28 - 01.000 >>JUST A FEW DAYS BEFORE SHE
01:29 - 02.870 DIED. I WALKED INSIDE HER
01:29 - 05.470 APARTMENT AFTER FOR THIS IT AND
01:29 - 07.640 IT WAS A MESS. THERE WERE DIRTY
01:29 - 09.710 DISHES STACKED IN SYNC AND
01:29 - 10.790 THERE'S GARBAGE ALL OVER THE
01:29 - 12.900 FLOOR. THERE IS PILL BOTTLES
01:29 - 14.650 EVERYWHERE AND HALF OF HER
01:29 - 16.030 TROPHY CASE WAS JUST
01:29 - 18.470 SCATTERED AROUND. SHE KICKS
01:29 - 20.080 SOME DEGREE ASIDE AND JUST
01:29 - 21.810 COLLAPSED INTO A CHAIR NEXT THE
01:29 - 25.470 TV. SHE TO ME OUT AND WAS OFTEN
01:29 - 26.740 YOUR OWN WORLD. NO
01:29 - 28.100 MATTER WHAT I WOULD SAY OR WHAT
01:29 - 29.810 I WOULD DO SHE JUST WENT
01:29 - 30.660 RESPOND TO ME.
01:29 - 32.800 I HATE THIS IS THE LAST IMAGE
01:29 - 34.420 OF COACHING, MY MIND. NO
01:29 - 35.440 FURTHER QUESTIONS YOUR HONOR.
01:29 - 56.890 TAKE THE SEAT
01:29 - 58.300 YOU MAKE GOOD AFTERNOON THE
01:29 - 59.430 SOUTH THAT IF YOU CAN
01:29 - 02.110 SO DO YOUR CLOSE RELATIONSHIP
01:30 - 03.810 WITH COACH MCADOO YOU ARE ABLE
01:30 - 05.260 TO OBSERVE A CHANGE IN HER
01:30 - 07.510 BEHAVIOR AROUND 2012 IS THAT
01:30 - 08.070 CORRECT.
01:30 - 10.720 >>IT WAS MORALLY 2013 AFTER SHE
01:30 - 12.050 LEFT HER JOB AND THEY'RE ON THE
01:30 - 13.160 SAME TIME HER HUSBAND HAD
01:30 - 16.310 PASSED AWAY IN IN 2013. YOU
01:30 - 18.470 FOUND HER PASSED OUT OUTSIDE A
01:30 - 20.500 BAR. THAT'S CORRECT. YES, A
01:30 - 22.430 BIT. AND MORE PREJUDICIAL
01:30 - 24.390 THAN PROBATIVE THIS INCIDENT IN
01:30 - 25.700 WHICH CO COUNSELS REFERRING TO
01:30 - 27.230 HAPPENED YEARS PRIOR TO THE
01:30 - 28.670 DEATH OF COACH HAVING A CANOE
01:30 - 29.950 AND IT'S A RELEVANT AND MORE
01:30 - 31.100 PREJUDICIAL IN PROGRESS AND THE
01:30 - 31.350 FACT
01:30 - 33.330 THAT IT PROBABLY THAT IS
01:30 - 34.710 SUBSTANTIALLY NOT OUTWEIGHED BY
01:30 - 35.550 THE PREJUDICIAL VALUE.
01:30 - 38.710 IT HAS. YOU NOTICE, CAN ALLOWED
01:30 - 39.760 TO CONTINUE WITH THIS LINE OF
01:30 - 41.350 QUESTIONING. IT WILL BECOME
01:30 - 43.710 CLEAR THAT SCHAEFER HAD AMPLE
01:30 - 45.160 OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW THAT THIS
01:30 - 46.270 INCIDENT HAD OCCURRED
01:30 - 47.980 AND THEN PROCEEDED TO PRESCRIBE
01:30 - 49.920 OPIOIDS TO SOMEONE WHO HAD BEEN
01:30 - 51.710 UNCONSCIOUS OUTSIDE A BAR,
01:30 - 53.420 THIS GOES DIRECTLY TO THE FACE
01:30 - 54.880 OF DOCTOR SHAFER IN TREATING A
01:30 - 56.710 PATIENT WHO WAS CLEARLY NOT IN
01:30 - 58.080 A GOOD MENTAL OR EMOTIONAL
01:30 - 00.080 STATE. I MADE THIS INCIDENT IS
01:31 - 01.240 NOT RELEVANT IN THE FACT THAT
01:31 - 01.930 HAPPENED MANY
01:31 - 03.320 YEARS PRIOR ALONG WITH THE FACT
01:31 - 04.650 THAT DOCTOR SHAFER IS THE PAIN
01:31 - 05.850 MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST FOR
01:31 - 07.640 COACH MCADOO THAT SHIP IS NOT
01:31 - 08.980 HER PSYCHOLOGIST OR THERAPIST
01:31 - 09.910 WHO SHOULD BE MADE AWARE OF
01:31 - 10.880 THIS CERTAIN SITUATION THAT
01:31 - 12.140 HAPPENED OUTSIDE OF THE PAIN
01:31 - 13.190 AWAY CLINIC THAT COULD BE
01:31 - 14.380 AFFECTED HER TREATMENT
01:31 - 15.740 THEREFORE ITS MORE PREJUDICIAL
01:31 - 16.830 AND IRRELEVANT.
01:31 - 18.650 THERE ARE THIS IS RELEVANT
01:31 - 19.690 BECAUSE THIS IS RIGHT AT THE
01:31 - 21.140 BEGINNING OF DOCTOR SHE FIRST
01:31 - 23.120 SHIPMENT OF COACH MCADOO AND
01:31 - 24.920 ANY TREATMENT BY DOCTOR SHAFER
01:31 - 26.990 OF COACH MCADOO IS RELEVANT TO
01:31 - 28.290 THE TREATMENT OF HER ON THE DAY
01:31 - 28.890 OF HER DEATH.
01:31 - 30.350 ADDITIONALLY THIS IS NOT
01:31 - 31.920 PREJUDICIAL NOT ONLY IS COACH
01:31 - 33.820 MCADOO NOT ON TRIAL OR EVEN IN
01:31 - 35.440 THE COURTROOM TODAY. BUT THIS
01:31 - 36.690 GOES DIRECTLY TO DOCTOR
01:31 - 38.190 SCHAEFER'S KNOWLEDGE OF COACH
01:31 - 39.960 MACK AND HIS MENTAL STATE WHILE
01:31 - 40.260 TREATING
01:31 - 41.810 THE PATIENT WHICH AGAIN GOES
01:31 - 43.310 DIRECTLY TO DOCTOR. SHE FIRST
01:31 - 44.250 FAITH WHILE TREATING
01:31 - 45.000 COACH MCADOO.
01:31 - 46.860 >>I'M DOING A REALLY INJECTION
01:31 - 49.080 THE SCENE BECAUSE YES RIGHT.
01:31 - 52.250 >>YOU SOUND COACH MCADOO
01:31 - 53.770 UNFORTUNATELY UNCONSCIOUS
01:31 - 55.590 OUTSIDE A BAR CRACKED. YES,
01:31 - 57.140 THEY DID SHE WAS IN HER CAR AND
01:31 - 58.200 THIS WAS IN DECEMBER OF
01:31 - 01.340 2013. YES AND DOCTOR SHAFER TO
01:32 - 02.470 YOUR KNOWLEDGE BEGAN TREATING
01:32 - 04.060 COACH MCADOO IN JANUARY OF
01:32 - 06.400 2014. YES TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT
01:32 - 06.800 IS TRUE
01:32 - 08.820 AND YOU THOUGHT MISS ABBOTT
01:32 - 10.620 THAT IT WOULD BE REASONABLE FOR
01:32 - 12.080 PEOPLE IT WAS A WEEK TO KNOW
01:32 - 13.000 THAT THIS HAD HAPPENED.
01:32 - 15.910 I NOTICE IS
01:32 - 17.050 CHANGING COACH AND I WANT TO
01:32 - 18.060 SEE IF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE
01:32 - 19.200 NOTICED I'M SORRY MAY'S
01:32 - 20.460 MISUNDERSTOOD YOU THOUGHT IT
01:32 - 21.850 WOULD BE REASONABLE FOR PEOPLE
01:32 - 23.730 TO KNOW THAT COACH MCADOO HAVE
01:32 - 25.120 BEEN UNCONSCIOUS, CORRECT.
01:32 - 28.210 YES, I WAS CONTENT THAT FINALLY
01:32 - 30.080 MISS ABBOTT AS THE COUNTER THAT
01:32 - 31.880 PAIN AWAY. YOU HAVE ACCESS TO
01:32 - 32.050 THEIR
01:32 - 34.630 FINANCIAL RECORDS. YES, THEY DO
01:32 - 36.500 YOU HAVE ACCESS TO SOME OF
01:32 - 37.700 DOCTOR SCHAEFER'S FINANCIAL
01:32 - 39.170 DECISIONS ABOUT PAIN AWAY.
01:32 - 40.200 YES, I DO.
01:32 - 42.700 AND WELL DOCTOR SHAFER WAS
01:32 - 44.040 SITTING COACH MCADOO
01:32 - 45.780 COACH MCADOO WAS RUNNING FOR
01:32 - 47.280 REELECTION FOR CITY COUNCIL
01:32 - 50.110 RIGHT. YES THAT ISSUE AND THIS
01:32 - 51.440 AT IT YOU ARE UNDER THE
01:32 - 53.240 IMPRESSION THAT COACH MCADOO
01:32 - 54.840 WOULDN'T WIN BECAUSE HER
01:32 - 56.880 CONDITION WAS SUPPORT RELEVANCE
01:32 - 58.540 TO COACH MCADOO AND RUNNING FOR
01:32 - 01.320 REELECTION. THEY ARE. PUSH BACK
01:33 - 02.580 AT HIS CONDITION WHILE RUNNING
01:33 - 03.740 FOR CITY COUNCIL,
01:33 - 05.170 ISRAEL'S AND BECAUSE DOCTOR
01:33 - 06.400 SHAFER WOULD HAVE BEEN AWARE OF
01:33 - 07.420 HER CONDITION AS
01:33 - 08.800 MISS OUT AND IT JUST STATED
01:33 - 10.370 PEOPLE WAS WE ARE AWARE OF EACH
01:33 - 12.550 OTHER'S LIVES. AND SO ASSAD THE
01:33 - 13.210 EXCUSE ME
01:33 - 15.220 IS MCADOO WAS RUNNING FOR CITY
01:33 - 16.790 COUNCIL AND HER CONDITION WAS
01:33 - 17.820 KNOWN TO BE POUR
01:33 - 19.120 THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO HOW
01:33 - 20.550 DOCTOR SCHIEFFER CHOSE TO TREAT
01:33 - 22.240 HER WITH KNOWLEDGE OF HER POOR
01:33 - 25.000 TIME A COUNCIL CANNOT ESTABLISH
01:33 - 26.400 WHAT THESE FACTORS WERE THAT
01:33 - 27.670 APPLIED TO THE REASON THAT
01:33 - 28.900 SHE'S ACTING OUT THEY COULD
01:33 - 30.080 HAVE BEEN STRESSED DUE TO HER
01:33 - 32.260 REELECTED DUE TO ELECTION FOR
01:33 - 32.780 CAMPAIGN.
01:33 - 34.070 >>ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT THIS
01:33 - 36.050 HAS NO DOES NOT MAKE ANY FACT
01:33 - 37.210 IN TONIGHT'S CASE MORE OR LESS
01:33 - 38.210 LIKELY AND IT'S
01:33 - 40.000 NOT RELEVANT. YOU KNOW FOR ME I
01:33 - 41.270 DIDN'T STATE THAT COACH MCADOO
01:33 - 43.150 WAS ACTING OUT I DIDN'T IN FACT
01:33 - 44.450 STATE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS MAC
01:33 - 44.540 AND
01:33 - 46.670 HIS BEHAVIOR SIMPLY ASKED MISS
01:33 - 47.860 ABBOTT WHETHER OR NOT SHE WAS
01:33 - 49.260 UNDER THE IMPRESSION THE COACH
01:33 - 50.380 MCADOO IS CONDITION WAS
01:33 - 53.140 DETERIORATING AND SINCE SHE'S
01:33 - 54.290 ALREADY STATED THAT
01:33 - 55.450 IT WOULD BE REASONABLE FOR
01:33 - 56.890 DOCTOR SHAFER TO KNOW THAT SHE
01:33 - 58.090 HAD BEEN PASSED OUT OUTSIDE A
01:33 - 59.310 BAR. IT WOULD THEN BE
01:33 - 00.750 REASONABLE FOR DOCTOR SHAFER TO
01:34 - 01.710 KNOW THAT HER CONDITION
01:34 - 04.150 WAS DETERIORATING. THE ARGUMENT
01:34 - 05.410 THAT I'D SWITCH MY OBJECTION TO
01:34 - 06.600 THIS QUESTION IS CALLING FIRST
01:34 - 07.720 CLEAR SPECULATION BY MY
01:34 - 09.330 WITH US THE HONOR SINCE
01:34 - 10.720 OBJECTION HAS BEEN SWITCHED, I
01:34 - 11.590 WOULD ARGUE THAT
01:34 - 13.010 SINCE THIS HAPPENED JUST SAID
01:34 - 14.140 THAT PEOPLE IN WAS THAT WE ARE
01:34 - 15.290 AWARE OF EACH OTHER'S LIVES,
01:34 - 16.210 THIS IS NOT CALL FOR
01:34 - 17.930 SPECULATION THAT'S A VERY
01:34 - 18.980 DETAILS CALLING FOR
01:34 - 20.490 SPECULATION, IT'S VERY DETAIL
01:34 - 22.330 AND A PRECISE ACCUSATION TO
01:34 - 23.780 MAKE THEIR FOR THE SPECULATION
01:34 - 25.450 IS NOT ACTUALLY BASED ON ANY
01:34 - 27.030 PERCEPTION BE HONEST. I'M VERY
01:34 - 28.280 DETAIL WHETHER OR NOT COACH
01:34 - 29.440 MACK AND HIS CONDITION WAS
01:34 - 30.840 KNOWN TO BE DETERIORATING,
01:34 - 32.470 ESPECIALLY BY SOMEONE WHO HAD A
01:34 - 33.900 CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH MISS
01:34 - 34.470 MCADOO.
01:34 - 35.860 >>THEY'RE GOING TO SUSTAIN THE
01:34 - 38.890 OBJECTION NOW YOU'RE FREE TO
01:34 - 40.670 DEVELOP FOR TRYING TO SOW MUCH
01:34 - 42.350 MORE FOUNDATION AND ASK AGAIN.
01:34 - 44.340 WITHOUT PREJUDICE. YOU
01:34 - 45.590 REASON THAT DIRECTION AGAIN AND
01:34 - 46.980 YOU ARE PERCENT TO 6. LET ME I
01:34 - 48.090 ASKED TO STRIKE ANY TESTIMONY
01:34 - 50.410 OR FRONT WAS GRANTED THINK YES,
01:34 - 53.750 >>COACH MCADOO RAN FOR
01:34 - 55.420 REELECTION FOR CITY COUNCIL
01:34 - 56.680 WHILE SHE WAS BEING TREATED BY
01:34 - 58.410 DOCTOR SHAFER IS THAT CORRECT.
01:34 - 59.950 >>YES THAT IS CORRECT AND THIS
01:34 - 01.490 OF IT YOU'RE UNDER THE
01:35 - 03.350 IMPRESSION THAT COACH MCADOO
01:35 - 05.320 WOULDN'T WIN BECAUSE HER
01:35 - 07.460 CONDITION WAS SO BAD IS
01:35 - 09.170 THAT CORRECT THE RUSSIAN PROBE
01:35 - 10.780 OF AND RELEVANCE WE JUST
01:35 - 12.820 ESTABLISHED THAT ANY FACTOR OF
01:35 - 13.910 THE STRESS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN
01:35 - 15.470 EXHIBITED BY COACH MCADOO FOR
01:35 - 17.070 THIS ELECTION IS NOT RELEVANT
01:35 - 18.250 TO MAKE THE CASE NOT A LOT OF
01:35 - 19.480 SUFFERING TO COACH MCADOO
01:35 - 20.710 STRESS AND THE FRONT OF HER
01:35 - 21.740 CONDITION THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
01:35 - 23.540 WELL KNOWN TO THE PEOPLE OF WAS
01:35 - 25.430 A WEEK DURING THE TREATMENT OF
01:35 - 26.780 HER BY THE DEFENDANT.
01:35 - 28.770 >>AND A QUESTION OVER THE HEAD
01:35 - 31.760 ASKED THE QUESTION JUST POLICE
01:35 - 32.270 SO.
01:35 - 34.200 >>YOU WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION
01:35 - 36.030 THAT COACH MCADOO WOULDN'T WIN
01:35 - 37.630 BECAUSE HER CONDITION WAS SO
01:35 - 38.590 BAD CORRECT.
01:35 - 40.670 >>YES WHEN SHE WAS ELECTED SHE
01:35 - 42.140 WAS THE OLD VERSION OF COACH
01:35 - 44.650 AND SHE HAD THIS PERSONALITY
01:35 - 46.160 SWITCH AND AS SHE WAS RUNNING
01:35 - 47.690 AND IT THIS NEW COACH
01:35 - 49.830 SHE WAS NOT AS SHE USED TO
01:35 - 51.640 BE RIGHT AND THIS WAS WHILE
01:35 - 53.350 DOCTOR SHAFER WAS TREATING HER
01:35 - 55.100 CORRECT. YES, THIS IS ALSO
01:35 - 56.300 AFTER SHE LEFT HER JOB AND HER
01:35 - 57.780 COST OF A HIT BUT JUST TO BE
01:35 - 58.760 CLEAR MISS ABBOTT.
01:35 - 00.110 >>YOU ALREADY SAID THAT IT
01:36 - 01.470 WOULD BE REASONABLE FOR PEOPLE
01:36 - 02.740 WHO WAS A WEEK TO KNOW A FAIR
01:36 - 03.730 AMOUNT ABOUT EACH OTHER'S
01:36 - 05.030 LIVES, CORRECT. IT'S A
01:36 - 06.610 THEN ANSWERED, IT'S BEEN LONG
01:36 - 08.250 ESTABLISHED THIS FACT THAT I'M
01:36 - 09.440 JUST CLARIFY FOR THE CHURCH.
01:36 - 12.840 IT'S A FAIRLY SMALL TOWN SO
01:36 - 13.640 EVERYONE KIND OF KNOWS
01:36 - 15.490 EVERYBODY ELSE NOTHING FURTHER
01:36 - 16.320 YOUR HONOR. THANK YOU.
01:36 - 47.630 >>YES YOUR HONOR THE DEFENSE
01:36 - 48.880 CALLS DOCTOR RIGHT HEAT, THE
01:36 - 49.210 STAND.
01:37 - 04.210 THEY SIT RUNNING FOR
01:37 - 04.650 THE JURY.
01:37 - 05.960 >>GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS
01:37 - 06.540 RIGHT HEAT.
01:37 - 07.810 >>AND ARE YOU A MEDICAL DOCTOR.
01:37 - 09.850 >>YES, AND PACKS A PHYSICIAN
01:37 - 11.520 SPECIALIZING PAIN MANAGEMENT.
01:37 - 12.850 >>ROUGHLY SUMMARIZE YOUR
01:37 - 13.960 EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND TO
01:37 - 14.380 THE JURY.
01:37 - 15.850 >>I RECEIVED A BACHELOR'S
01:37 - 17.250 DEGREE IN BIOLOGY FROM HARVARD
01:37 - 19.310 IN 19 89 IN BOTH AN MD AND A
01:37 - 21.410 PHD UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA
01:37 - 21.530 IN
01:37 - 22.350 1995.
01:37 - 23.830 >>AND HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY
01:37 - 24.820 SPECIALIZED TRAINING THROUGHOUT
01:37 - 25.270 YOUR CAREER.
01:37 - 27.470 YES, POLLEN INTERNSHIP AND
01:37 - 29.110 RESIDENCY ARE PARTICIPATED IN
01:37 - 30.250 THE FELLOWSHIP YOUR KNOWLEDGE
01:37 - 31.440 IN PAIN MANAGEMENT.
01:37 - 32.830 >>HOW MANY YEARS DID YOU STUDY
01:37 - 33.590 FROM THE BEGINNING OF YOUR
01:37 - 34.770 COLLEGIATE CAREER TO THE END OF
01:37 - 35.410 YOUR FELLOWSHIP.
01:37 - 36.540 >>16 YEARS.
01:37 - 38.620 >>DOCTOR HE PLEASE EXPLAIN PAIN
01:37 - 39.820 MANAGEMENT FOR THE JURY.
01:37 - 41.260 >>WELL PAIN MANAGEMENT IS A
01:37 - 42.570 MEDICAL APPROACH THAT USES
01:37 - 44.540 SCIENCE AN ALTERNATIVE HEALING
01:37 - 45.800 TO STUDY THE PREVENTION
01:37 - 47.110 DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT OF
01:37 - 47.450 PAIN.
01:37 - 48.850 >>YOU KNOW DOCTOR WE TALKED A
01:37 - 50.020 LOT ABOUT YOUR EDUCATIONAL
01:37 - 51.570 BACKGROUND. WE BRITISH SUMMERS,
01:37 - 52.680 YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE
01:37 - 53.110 FOR THE JURY.
01:37 - 54.970 >>I'M THE FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR
01:37 - 56.450 OF THE SACKLER CLINIC MEDICAL
01:37 - 58.280 PAIN MANAGEMENT. I'VE ALSO BEEN
01:37 - 59.430 A CLINICAL PROFESSOR OF
01:37 - 00.980 MEDICINE SINCE 2001.
01:38 - 02.410 >>AND YOU'RE ITCHING TO MAKE
01:38 - 03.770 DECISIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT
01:38 - 04.790 TO PRESCRIBE OPIOIDS TO
01:38 - 05.790 PATIENTS WHO PORTING
01:38 - 06.390 IN PAINT.
01:38 - 07.900 >>YES, I'VE DEALT WITH THESE
01:38 - 09.490 DECISIONS A COUNTLESS NUMBER OF
01:38 - 10.960 TIMES THEIR MAJOR PART OF
01:38 - 11.620 PAIN MANAGEMENT.
01:38 - 13.670 >>AT THIS TIME OUT FOR DOCTOR I
01:38 - 14.740 HE IS AN EXPERT IN PAIN
01:38 - 15.940 MANAGEMENT IN THE PRESCRIPTION
01:38 - 16.980 OF OPIATE MEDICATION.
01:38 - 19.660 >>ANY OBJECTION, I KNOW JACKSON
01:38 - 21.140 YOUR THIS WITNESSES AND WE CALL
01:38 - 23.120 IT THEY GET SO IN 8. YES.
01:38 - 25.150 >>DOCTOR HEY, YOU'RE AN EXPERT
01:38 - 26.270 IN PAIN MANAGEMENT WOULD YOU BE
01:38 - 27.640 ABLE TO GIVE THE JURY A PLAQUE
01:38 - 29.120 AND WHAT IF A MISSION OF PAINT.
01:38 - 29.970 NO
01:38 - 30.730 I CANNOT.
01:38 - 32.470 >>PAIN IS SUBJECTIVE AND
01:38 - 34.100 UNFORTUNATELY EVEN WITH ALL THE
01:38 - 35.190 ADVANCEMENTS. THE MEDICAL
01:38 - 36.570 PROFESSION HAS MADE OVER THE
01:38 - 38.620 YEARS. WE STILL KNOW MACHINES
01:38 - 40.460 ARE DEVICES, SECOND OBJECT WE
01:38 - 42.550 MEASURE PAIN IF WE SUSPECT THAT
01:38 - 44.300 A PATIENT HAS A BROKEN ARM.
01:38 - 46.220 WE CAN X-RAY AN OBJECTIVE WE
01:38 - 47.450 SEE IF THERE'S A FRACTURE OR
01:38 - 49.120 NOT IF WE SUSPECT THAT A
01:38 - 49.480 PATIENT
01:38 - 52.100 HAS CANCER. WE ORDER ECT SKIN
01:38 - 53.420 AN OBJECTIVE WE SEE IF THERE'S
01:38 - 55.690 A TUMOR OR NOT. BUT THIS NOT
01:38 - 56.620 ALWAYS THE CASE
01:38 - 58.560 OFTEN TIMES WE POSITIONS THE
01:38 - 00.340 PATIENTS WERE CLEARLY IN PAIN.
01:39 - 02.020 WE ARE UNABLE TO IDENTIFY
01:39 - 03.990 PERSONS COSTS. WE CALL THIS A
01:39 - 05.700 NEW TACTIC OR PHANTOM PAIN.
01:39 - 07.900 >>WHAT ROLE DO OPIOIDS PLAN
01:39 - 08.740 TREATING THIS PAIN.
01:39 - 10.970 >>OPIOIDS ARE VERY POWERFUL
01:39 - 11.680 MEDICATION FOR
01:39 - 13.460 TREATING PAIN. WELL, I RESPECT
01:39 - 14.490 AGENT CALLED WHEN HIS
01:39 - 15.690 COMMITMENT TO ENDING THE
01:39 - 17.470 OPIOID EPIDEMIC. THERE ARE MANY
01:39 - 19.090 CASES MUCH OPIOIDS ARE
01:39 - 20.330 ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
01:39 - 22.800 MEDICATIONS LIKE OXYCODONE ALL
01:39 - 24.420 PEOPLE IN CRIPPLING TO FILL
01:39 - 26.550 TEACHING PAIN TO FUNCTION AGAIN
01:39 - 27.810 AN ATTEMPT TO RETURN TO THEIR
01:39 - 28.620 NORMAL LIVES.
01:39 - 30.350 >>WHO IS IN THE BEST POSITION
01:39 - 31.420 TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION
01:39 - 32.510 WHETHER OR NOT TO PRESCRIBE AN
01:39 - 33.920 OPIOID TO PATIENT IN PAIN.
01:39 - 35.570 THE TREATING PHYSICIAN.
01:39 - 36.990 >>THEY'RE THE ONES WHO SPEND
01:39 - 38.440 THE MOST TIME WITH THE PATIENT
01:39 - 39.920 AND UNDERSTANDING THE BEST.
01:39 - 41.340 THEY HAVE THE TRAINING AND
01:39 - 42.780 EXPERIENCE TO MAKE INFORMED
01:39 - 43.300 DECISION.
01:39 - 45.440 >>DOCTOR EXPLAIN SOME OF THE
01:39 - 46.930 OBSTACLES A PHYSICIAN MIGHT
01:39 - 47.820 FACE WHEN TREATING WITH
01:39 - 48.370 OPIOIDS.
01:39 - 50.520 >>WELL AS A PROFESSOR AS WELL
01:39 - 51.270 AS THE DOCTOR.
01:39 - 52.460 I KNOW THAT THERE'S A
01:39 - 53.800 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HEAD THE FED
01:39 - 55.850 A CALTEX BOOK SITUATIONS AND
01:39 - 57.160 REAL WORLD EXPERIENCES.
01:39 - 59.180 IT'S EASY FOR ME TO STAND IN
01:39 - 00.660 FRONT OF A CLASSROOM AND TEACH
01:40 - 02.200 THAT DIFFERENT SCENARIOS BUT
01:40 - 03.910 THAT'S NO SUBSTITUTE FOR REAL
01:40 - 06.250 WORLD SITUATIONS. OFTEN TIMES
01:40 - 07.680 DOCTORS HAVE TO MAKE SNAP
01:40 - 09.310 JUDGMENTS WHEN A PATIENT COMES
01:40 - 10.910 IN A CHAIR INTO THEIR CLINIC IN
01:40 - 11.750 OBVIOUS PAIN.
01:40 - 12.980 AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO
01:40 - 14.650 IMPORTANT FOR A DOCTOR AND A
01:40 - 16.110 PATIENT TO BE HONEST AND
01:40 - 17.910 TRUSTING RELATIONSHIP THAT'S
01:40 - 19.070 SOMETHING THAT GOES SO FAR
01:40 - 20.410 BEYOND WHAT CAN BE TAUGHT IN
01:40 - 21.940 THE CLASSROOM AND ITS DECISION
01:40 - 22.830 THAT ONLY THE DOCTOR
01:40 - 23.380 CAN MAKE.
01:40 - 25.100 >>DOCTOR WHAT MATERIALS HAVE
01:40 - 26.250 YOU REVIEWED IN THIS CASE IN
01:40 - 26.730 ORDER TO FORM
01:40 - 27.440 YOUR CONCLUSIONS.
01:40 - 29.180 >>I REVIEWED ALL THE CASE
01:40 - 30.750 MATERIALS INCLUDING THE INTAKE
01:40 - 31.260 SHE FROM
01:40 - 34.780 12/16/2016 THE PMP LOG AND THE
01:40 - 36.250 STATEMENTS OF FREE SHE FOR
01:40 - 37.850 FRANK KELSEY AND ROEKEL PLAN.
01:40 - 39.790 >>DOCTOR IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL
01:40 - 41.170 MEDICAL OPINION WAS IT
01:40 - 42.510 APPROPRIATE FOR DOCTOR SHAFER
01:40 - 43.790 TO ADMINISTER AN INJECTION OF
01:40 - 44.930 HYDROMORPHONE ON
01:40 - 46.940 12/16/2016.
01:40 - 48.410 >>YES, THIS WAS THE RIGHT
01:40 - 50.050 CHOICE MEDICATION BECAUSE COACH
01:40 - 51.550 HAD EXHIBITED A NEW LEVEL OF
01:40 - 53.390 PAIN KNOWN AS BREAKTHROUGH PAIN
01:40 - 55.000 OR PAYMENT IS BREAKING THROUGH
01:40 - 56.290 HER OTHER MEDICATIONS.
01:40 - 57.570 >>WELL IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL
01:40 - 59.300 MEDICAL OPINION WAS THE DOSAGE
01:40 - 59.600 OF THIS
01:40 - 00.750 INJECTION APPROPRIATE.
01:41 - 03.140 >>YES, THIS DOSAGE WAS A 100%
01:41 - 03.740 LEGAL AN
01:41 - 04.620 FDA APPROVED.
01:41 - 06.620 >>WAS DOCTOR SHAFER REQUIRED TO
01:41 - 08.070 CHECK THE PMP BEFORE
01:41 - 08.890 PRESCRIBING A COACH.
01:41 - 11.010 >>YOU KNOW THIS WAS NOT ILLEGAL
01:41 - 12.650 CRIME AND AT THE TIME AND FROM
01:41 - 13.910 THE START DOCTOR SHAFER WAS
01:41 - 15.490 DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE COACH DID
01:41 - 16.950 NOT MENTION THAT SHE WAS I ANY
01:41 - 18.740 OTHER JOBS LIKE A BENZ AND S P
01:41 - 19.200 ALSO KNOWN
01:41 - 21.580 AS XANAX AND FROM IVY THIS CASE
01:41 - 23.100 I'VE SEEN THAT NURSE KELSEY DID
01:41 - 23.990 NOT MENTION ANY
01:41 - 25.830 OTHER DRUGS. COACH WAS TAKING
01:41 - 27.720 OTHER THAN MOSES NIANTIC CHEAT.
01:41 - 29.230 >>HAVE THE PHYSICIANS
01:41 - 30.530 REQUIREMENTS WHEN TREATING WITH
01:41 - 31.980 OPIATES CHANGED OVER RECENT
01:41 - 32.560 YEARS.
01:41 - 34.600 >>YES, OF COURSE THE WORLD OF
01:41 - 36.230 OPIOIDS AND THE MONTANA LEAST
01:41 - 37.900 DRUGS HAVE BEEN IN A STATE OF
01:41 - 39.490 CONSTANT CHANGE OVER THE LAST
01:41 - 41.660 FEW YEARS. WHAT MAY BE ILLEGAL
01:41 - 43.400 CRIME 8 TODAY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN
01:41 - 44.980 LESS THAN A YEAR AGO THAT WAS
01:41 - 45.780 THE CASE WITH THE PD
01:41 - 46.170 M P.
01:41 - 48.080 >>WELL AT THE TIME WAS DOCTOR
01:41 - 49.460 SHAFER REQUIRED TO ORDER YOUR
01:41 - 50.690 IN SCREENING FOR COACH BACK
01:41 - 51.120 TO THAT.
01:41 - 52.880 >>YOU KNOW AND TO THIS DAY,
01:41 - 54.470 IT'S STILL NOT A LEGAL OR CRIME
01:41 - 55.410 IN A PHYSICIAN'S.
01:41 - 56.790 IN ADDITION TO THIS THERE IS
01:41 - 58.180 NOT MANY SIGNIFICANT RISK
01:41 - 59.590 FACTORS. PRESIDENT COATS SUCH
01:41 - 00.230 AS FAMILY HIS
01:42 - 01.190 SHIP ABUSE.
01:42 - 02.620 >>DOCTOR IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL
01:42 - 03.990 MEDICAL UP IN IT IN YOUR
01:42 - 05.240 PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL EXPERIENCE
01:42 - 06.930 TO PATIENTS NORMALLY EXHIBIT
01:42 - 08.370 PHYSIOLOGICAL SIGNS OF PAIN.
01:42 - 10.540 >>YES PATIENTS WHO ARE IN PAIN
01:42 - 12.380 EXIT, TYPICAL SIGNS OF THIS
01:42 - 14.850 INCLUDING PANIC TO ME NEAR SWAY
01:42 - 16.400 SKIN OR THE EVEN REDUCED
01:42 - 18.470 TO TEARS. MY VIEW THIS CASE
01:42 - 20.120 COACH EXHIBITED MANY OF THE
01:42 - 21.510 TYPICAL SIGNS WITH PATIENTS IN
01:42 - 23.770 PAIN AND 12/16/2016.
01:42 - 25.520 >>DOCTOR HE HAVE YOU FORMED AN
01:42 - 26.900 OPINION TO REASONABLE DEGREE OF
01:42 - 27.870 MEDICAL CERTAINTY
01:42 - 29.540 AS AN EXPERT IN PAIN MANAGEMENT
01:42 - 30.560 IN THE PRESCRIPTION OF OPIATE
01:42 - 32.270 MEDICATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT
01:42 - 33.310 ALL OF DOCTOR SCHAEFER'S
01:42 - 34.510 ACTIONS AND HER TREATMENT WITH
01:42 - 36.110 COACH MCADOO ACCORDING TO
01:42 - 38.140 BE ACCEPTED MEDICAL STANDARDS
01:42 - 40.050 AT THE TIME. YES, I HAVE AND
01:42 - 41.470 WHAT IS YOUR OPINION. DOCTOR
01:42 - 42.710 SHAFER WAS NOT REQUIRED TO
01:42 - 43.840 CHECK THE PDA PEOPLE FOR
01:42 - 45.050 PRESCRIBING MEDICATION.
01:42 - 46.730 >>SHE WAS NOT REQUIRED TO
01:42 - 47.940 CONDUCT DURING TESTING,
01:42 - 49.270 ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT
01:42 - 50.060 MANY SIGNIFICANT
01:42 - 51.990 RISK FACTORS AND SHE MINISTER
01:42 - 53.580 AN INJECTION OF HYDROMORPHONE
01:42 - 54.800 THOSE FDA APPROVED.
01:42 - 56.540 ALL THESE ACTIONS BY DOCTOR
01:42 - 58.080 SHAFER INCLUDE JUST CASE WERE A
01:42 - 59.640 100% APPROPRIATE MEDICALLY
01:42 - 01.270 ACCEPTABLE. THANK YOUR HONOR,
01:43 - 02.990 NO FURTHER QUESTIONS THE GIFT.
01:43 - 11.810 >>I GUESS YOU NEVER
01:43 - 14.920 SEE UNIT. AFTERNOON DOCTOR
01:43 - 16.120 HARRY DIDN'T AFTERNOON.
01:43 - 17.590 NOW I'D LIKE TO TALK BRIEFLY
01:43 - 18.590 ABOUT A FEW THINGS HE SAID ON
01:43 - 20.610 FOR STUFF YOU SAID THAT YOU
01:43 - 21.750 WERE EDUCATED IN PAIN
01:43 - 24.310 MANAGEMENT FOR 16 YEARS, BUT
01:43 - 25.330 THAT'S NOT TRUE IS IT.
01:43 - 26.490 >>WELL THAT INCLUDES MY
01:43 - 28.580 FELLOWSHIP IN MAJOR CHIPS, I'M
01:43 - 30.000 SORRY BUT I BELIEVE YOU
01:43 - 31.400 ACTUALLY INCLUDING THAT YOU'RE
01:43 - 32.810 ONLY AS GOOD FOR 12 YEARS IS
01:43 - 33.250 NOT TRUE.
01:43 - 36.770 >>WHAT OPPOSING COUNSEL
01:43 - 39.620 REFERRED TO OF THIS ONE IS
01:43 - 42.250 MARKED UP, BUT. I
01:43 - 44.520 VIEW IT. IT'S A EXHIBIT 9 KNOW
01:43 - 45.750 THAT WHEN WE HAVE A COPY JUST
01:43 - 46.540 ONE OF THEM THAT
01:43 - 48.610 THANK YOU. SO ISN'T IT TRUE
01:43 - 50.210 THAT WERE ACTUALLY ENGAGED IN
01:43 - 50.270 THE
01:43 - 50.780 12 YEARS.
01:43 - 52.080 >>WELL THAT INCLUDES MANY
01:43 - 53.770 INTERNSHIPS MY FELLOWSHIPS IN
01:43 - 55.510 ANY OTHER JOBS AND INSTRUCTION
01:43 - 57.340 I COMPLETED MY EDUCATION,
01:43 - 59.570 12 YEARS NOT 16 THAT WELL I
01:43 - 01.260 INCLUDE FELLOWSHIP LAND CATION
01:44 - 02.740 THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE 12
01:44 - 04.030 YEARS. I DON'T MEAN TO GET HUNG
01:44 - 05.690 UP ON THIS, BUT IT THAT'S
01:44 - 07.170 AN ANSWER. I DON'T BELIEVE IT
01:44 - 08.440 WAS ANSWERED FOR IT.
01:44 - 12.440 >>THE AND DON'T BELIEVE
01:44 - 14.140 IT'S BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED
01:44 - 16.090 CLEARLY AT AND WILLING
01:44 - 17.510 TO OVERRULE YOUR OBJECTION TO
01:44 - 18.590 ASK THAT YOU REPHRASE YOUR
01:44 - 21.440 QUESTION AS WELL TO CLEAR YOU
01:44 - 22.520 THAT JUST TO CLARIFY
01:44 - 25.400 >>YOUR EDUCATION HARVARD BEGAN
01:44 - 27.420 IN 1989, AND YOU COMPLETED YOUR
01:44 - 29.150 FELLOWSHIP IN NEUROLOGY AND
01:44 - 30.770 PAIN MANAGEMENT IN 2001 THAT'S
01:44 - 32.140 TOLD US THAT YES AUGUST,
01:44 - 33.470 INCLUDING EDUCATION, BUT I
01:44 - 35.150 INCLUDE MY JOB INSTRUCTION ANY
01:44 - 37.080 OTHER RECEIVED IN THAT YEAR
01:44 - 38.330 THAT JUST GOT BACK FROM INJURY
01:44 - 40.120 NEXT YOU SAID SOMETHING ON
01:44 - 40.470 DIRECT YOU
01:44 - 43.480 SAID THAT MEDICATION DOCTOR
01:44 - 44.540 CHIEF ARE PRESCRIBED YOU
01:44 - 46.010 BELIEVE WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE.
01:44 - 47.340 YES I DO, BUT DON'T YOU BELIEVE
01:44 - 48.200 THAT THAT INJECTION WAS A
01:44 - 50.410 MISTAKE. WELL IT WAS PROBABLY
01:44 - 51.670 NOT THE BEST PRACTICE AT
01:44 - 53.910 THE TIME. BUT SINCE IT WAS FT
01:44 - 55.330 PROVED IT WAS WHEN WITHIN THE
01:44 - 56.860 LEGAL LIMIT HER PRESCRIBING THE
01:44 - 58.050 MEDICATION WAS CERTAINLY NOT
01:44 - 00.090 CRIMINAL OR BAD IT ACTUALLY BE
01:45 - 01.290 BELIEVE WAS A MISTAKE RIGHT.
01:45 - 03.510 YES, BUT AGAIN IT WAS NOT
01:45 - 04.650 CERTAINLY NOT CRIMINAL FOR HER
01:45 - 05.920 TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT WAS FDA
01:45 - 07.600 APPROVED. NOW A DECADE. I'D
01:45 - 08.720 LIKE TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT SOME
01:45 - 10.080 OF FROM SOME OF YOUR WORK
01:45 - 11.220 EXPERIENCE, I KNOW YOU'VE GIVEN
01:45 - 11.830 A TALK
01:45 - 13.400 PREVIOUSLY ADVOCATING AGAINST
01:45 - 14.180 THE RESTRICTION OF THE
01:45 - 15.240 PRESCRIPTION OF FENTANYL
01:45 - 17.160 CRACKED. YES AT A NEW SPONSOR
01:45 - 19.210 THAT TALK THAT WAS PRODUCED FOR
01:45 - 20.700 US TO TICKLES BUT THEY ONLY
01:45 - 22.800 SPONSORED THIS TALK I'M
01:45 - 24.410 IT WAS THEY ASKED ME TO COME
01:45 - 25.840 AND GET MY UNBIASED OPINION I
01:45 - 27.240 WAS NOT PAID FOR THIS TALK IT
01:45 - 28.400 WAS JUST ME INFORMING THE
01:45 - 29.980 COMMUNITY OF OPIOIDS BUT THEY
01:45 - 31.280 DIDN'T ONLY SPONSOR FOR YOU
01:45 - 32.440 THAT TALK THEY'VE SPOTTED YOU
01:45 - 34.150 AND OTHER OCCASIONS. CRACKS YES
01:45 - 35.470 THEY HAVE, BUT I WAS NOT PAID
01:45 - 36.690 FOR THESE TALKS I WAS ASKED TO
01:45 - 38.040 GIVE THEM BIASED OPINION YOUR
01:45 - 40.040 RESPONSE OR TRACKED. YES, BUT
01:45 - 41.950 NOT PAYDAY JUST SPONSORED THE
01:45 - 43.420 EVENT YOU'RE SPONSORED THE NOT
01:45 - 45.550 PAID. THEY SPONSOR THE EVENT AT
01:45 - 46.970 ME, OK AND FOR THE MURRAY
01:45 - 48.510 GIVING A TALK ADVOCATE
01:45 - 50.850 TO CITY OPINION THAT OPIOIDS
01:45 - 52.430 ARE TOOL MALIGNED UNFAIRLY.
01:45 - 54.640 YES. THANK YOU. NOW ON TO THE
01:45 - 54.820 DAY
01:45 - 56.790 IN QUESTION. KELLY MACK YOU
01:45 - 58.260 WALK INTO PAIN AWAY FROM ACTING
01:45 - 58.860 WITH EXTREME
01:45 - 00.420 PAIN, CORRECT. YES, SHE DID SHE
01:46 - 01.600 EXHIBIT MANY OF THE TYPICAL
01:46 - 03.160 SIGNS LIKE SWEATY SKIN AND
01:46 - 04.320 SHAKING GRIP OF THE SIGNS OF
01:46 - 05.480 EXTREME PAIN ARE SIMILAR TO
01:46 - 06.950 THOSE OF WITHDRAWAL EXCUSE ME
01:46 - 08.750 WITHDRAW OR DRUG ABUSE CRACKS
01:46 - 10.340 YES, THEY ARE, BUT AGAIN THIS
01:46 - 11.900 IS FOR THE DOCTOR TO DETERMINE
01:46 - 12.890 THEY USE THEIR TRAINING AND
01:46 - 14.280 EXPERIENCE IN DOCTOR SCHIEFFER
01:46 - 15.960 CONCLUDED ON THIS DAY WITH THE
01:46 - 17.740 SCIENCE THAT COACH PRESENTED
01:46 - 19.230 THAT IT WAS IN FACT PAIN
01:46 - 20.380 BECAUSE THE SIGNS ARE VERY
01:46 - 21.570 SIMILAR THREAT. THE DOCTOR THAT
01:46 - 23.160 THEY WERE RISK FACTORS THAT IS
01:46 - 24.740 MCADOO ABUSING DRUGS SCRIPT.
01:46 - 26.370 YES, BUT AGAIN THIS IS FOR THE
01:46 - 26.980 DOCTOR TO
01:46 - 29.980 ASSESS IT. THESE RISK FACTORS
01:46 - 31.260 IT'S A COST BENEFIT AND NOW
01:46 - 32.600 STARTED OUT THESE RISK FACTORS
01:46 - 34.320 IN WITNESSES A LOT OF THINGS TO
01:46 - 35.230 ANSWER YOUR OWN OF THE
01:46 - 36.260 WITNESSES UNTIL A BRIEF
01:46 - 37.630 EXPLANATION THAT POLICE UNITS
01:46 - 40.070 JOY OUT OF IT. I'M
01:46 - 41.100 WAY TOO.
01:46 - 42.440 >>ISIS EVOLUTION THAT HER
01:46 - 43.650 FINISH YOUR SENTENCE WE CAN
01:46 - 45.150 REVISIT THIS IT BECAUSE I KNEW
01:46 - 45.970 ONE ANOTHER ISSUE.
01:46 - 48.350 >>IS A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS
01:46 - 49.820 AGAIN IT'S FOR THE DOCTOR TO
01:46 - 51.390 DETERMINE IF THE RISK FACTORS
01:46 - 52.660 ARE WORTH PRESCRIBING OPIATES
01:46 - 54.430 OR NOT AND THESE RISK FACTORS
01:46 - 54.850 INCLUDE THE
01:46 - 56.290 FACT THAT MS. MACKIE WAS A
01:46 - 58.000 LONG-TERM OPIATE USE AIRCRAFT.
01:46 - 59.470 YES, IT DID. BUT DOCTOR
01:46 - 00.720 SCHIEFFER DID DETERMINE WITH
01:47 - 01.340 HER TRAINING IN
01:47 - 03.010 THIS CASE THAT THE BENEFITS
01:47 - 04.370 THAT OPIOIDS WOULD OUTWEIGH
01:47 - 05.520 THIS RESPECT IT RIGHT AND THE
01:47 - 06.410 FACT THAT HIS BACK HE WAS
01:47 - 07.550 PAYING CASH, CORRECT.
01:47 - 09.120 WELL SHE DID NOT PAYING CASH
01:47 - 10.300 ALL THE TIME SHE DIDN'T USE HER
01:47 - 11.950 INSURANCE HAS INDICATED AN APD
01:47 - 13.110 I'M FEELING THAT HER PAYING IN
01:47 - 14.840 CASH, HOWEVER, OFTEN HAPPENED
01:47 - 16.240 WAS A RESPECTED CORRECT.
01:47 - 17.730 YES, IT WAS BUT SHE DIDN'T DO
01:47 - 19.010 IT ALL THE TIME YOU DESPITE
01:47 - 20.040 THESE RISK FACTORS DOCTOR
01:47 - 21.740 SHAFER NIGHT OR CHECK THE PMP
01:47 - 23.290 NOR DID A URINE TEST CORRECT.
01:47 - 25.190 NO SHE DID NOT SHE DID CONDUCT
01:47 - 26.610 IN TAKE SHE AND AGAIN SHE
01:47 - 28.570 BELIEVED IN THAT TRUST IN BOND
01:47 - 29.620 BETWEEN THE PATIENT AND THE
01:47 - 31.170 DOCTOR AND SINCE ALL THESE
01:47 - 31.950 THINGS WENT OUT WE WERE
01:47 - 33.460 PREGNANT AT THE TIME HER NOT
01:47 - 35.070 DOING SO CERTAINLY NOT CRIMINAL
01:47 - 36.280 RIGHT THEY WERE LEGAL, BUT YOU
01:47 - 37.360 BELIEVE THAT IT WAS NOT GOOD
01:47 - 38.700 PRACTICE TO DO NEITHER OF THESE
01:47 - 40.030 THINGS CORRECT YOU KNOW IT'S
01:47 - 42.030 PROBABLY NOT THE BEST BUT
01:47 - 43.860 AGAIN, A SENSE ALL THESE THINGS
01:47 - 45.330 WERE LEGAL CRIME AND DOCTOR
01:47 - 46.680 SHAFER WAS ABLE TO DO THESE
01:47 - 48.210 MANY OTHER FISH ISN'T POSITIONS
01:47 - 49.630 TO DO THIS. SO CERTAINLY NOT
01:47 - 50.690 CRIMINAL FOR HER NOT TO DO
01:47 - 51.780 THESE THINGS RIGHT NOW WITH
01:47 - 53.160 REGARDS TO THE PMP YOU BELIEVE
01:47 - 53.790 IT'S ONE OF THE MOST
01:47 - 55.240 SIGNIFICANT MEDICAL INNOVATIONS
01:47 - 56.760 OF THE PAST 10 YEARS, CORRECT.
01:47 - 58.330 YES I DO TELL THE DOCTOR WHAT
01:47 - 59.440 OTHER PRESCRIPTIONS A PATIENT
01:47 - 01.480 HAS GOT YES AND HAD DOCTOR
01:48 - 03.320 SHAFER CHECKED THE PMP HE WOULD
01:48 - 04.720 HAVE FOUND THAT MS. MCCABE WAS
01:48 - 05.010 ONS
01:48 - 07.180 AN EXTRACT. YES, SHE WOULD HAVE
01:48 - 08.390 BUT SINCE IS A VERY NEW
01:48 - 09.600 TECHNOLOGY DOCTOR SCHIPPER
01:48 - 11.100 STORYLINE HERE IN TAKE SHEETS
01:48 - 12.490 WHICH WAS VERY COMMON PRACTICE
01:48 - 14.190 FOR THE PMP CAME INTO PLACE IN
01:48 - 16.470 2015 RIGHT NOW DOCTOR HATE
01:48 - 18.140 WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT
01:48 - 19.400 DOCTOR SHAFER NEITHER CHECK THE
01:48 - 21.410 PMP NOR DID THE YEAR IN SPAIN,
01:48 - 22.630 BUT THE DOCTOR SHE FOR AT LEAST
01:48 - 24.260 ASKED DIRECTLY WHETHER OR NOT
01:48 - 25.950 MS. MCCABE WAS ON XANAX
01:48 - 28.370 NO BUT SHE DID REVIEW AND TAKE
01:48 - 29.950 SHE AND WAS SHE A DELEGATE TO
01:48 - 31.380 HER NURSE AND NOTHING WAS
01:48 - 32.460 LISTENING IN TAKE SHE AND
01:48 - 33.540 DOCTOR HE HAD YOU MADE A
01:48 - 34.740 MISTAKE LIKE NOT ASKING
01:48 - 36.240 DIRECTLY ABOUT BENZODIAZEPINE
01:48 - 37.810 HE WOULD BE HORRIFIED WOULDN'T
01:48 - 39.960 YOU. YES, I WOULD, BUT I DON'T
01:48 - 41.150 BELIEVE THIS IS DOCTOR SHE
01:48 - 42.310 FIRST FAILURE IN THIS CASE
01:48 - 43.410 BECAUSE SHE HAD REVIEWED THE
01:48 - 44.530 ANTIQUE SHEET WHICH YOU DON'T
01:48 - 46.440 GET TO AN AIRSTRIP UPI HARF I
01:48 - 48.650 HAD YOU MY MISTAKE. YES, BUT I
01:48 - 50.160 DON'T PUT THIS ON DOCTOR SHAFER
01:48 - 50.890 IN THIS CASE
01:48 - 53.310 AND FINALLY DOCTOR HATE AS
01:48 - 54.680 DOCTOR SCHAEFER'S PRESCRIPTION
01:48 - 55.800 RATES TRENDED ABOVE THE
01:48 - 57.280 NATIONAL MEDIAN YOU BELIEVE
01:48 - 58.720 THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO RULE
01:48 - 59.900 OUT EXPLANATIONS THAT ARE
01:48 - 01.990 CRIMINAL ACTS. YES, BUT IT'S
01:49 - 03.530 ALSO IMPOSSIBLE TO RULE OUT
01:49 - 06.420 EXPLANATIONS THAT ARE NOT
01:49 - 06.940 INCLUDING
01:49 - 09.080 THAT HER. THE PRESCRIPTION RATE
01:49 - 10.030 WENT UP BECAUSE SHE WAS
01:49 - 11.290 CHEATING BLUE COLLAR WORKERS
01:49 - 12.710 WHICH ARE WORKPLACE INJURIES
01:49 - 13.930 THAT THE MORE OPIATES OR JUST
01:49 - 14.820 TO BE CLEAR DOCTOR HAD IT'S
01:49 - 16.490 IMPOSSIBLE TO RULE OUT CRIMINAL
01:49 - 18.690 EXPLANATIONS CRACKED. YES AS
01:49 - 20.320 WELL AS SHE WAS CHEATING BLUE
01:49 - 21.830 COLLAR WORKERS NOTHING FOR THE
01:49 - 22.820 HONOR. THANK YOU.
01:49 - 29.590 >>THE ONLY DIRECTOR ON THE
01:49 - 47.820 THAT CONCLUDED.
01:49 - 49.880 DEFENSE CASE. YES, YOUR HONOR
01:49 - 50.810 AT THIS TIME, THE DEFENSE
01:49 - 51.330 RESTS.
01:49 - 57.080 HER A DAME SEEN POSING.
01:50 - 09.750 >>OPPOSING COUNSEL. MEMBERS OF
01:50 - 10.160 THE JURY.
01:50 - 11.830 YOU MAY RECALL THAT IN HER
01:50 - 13.440 OPENING STATEMENT MY CO-COUNSEL
01:50 - 15.080 MORE IN PALMER SPOKE ABOUT
01:50 - 16.550 PEOPLE FACING VERY
01:50 - 18.550 DIFFICULT SITUATIONS. USING
01:50 - 19.990 THEIR TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE
01:50 - 21.320 TO ASSESS THEIR SURROUNDINGS
01:50 - 22.600 AND FOR THE BEST JUDGMENT ON
01:50 - 23.320 HOW TO PROCEED.
01:50 - 26.690 WHO AMONG US IS GOING TO SECOND
01:50 - 27.960 GUESS THE DECISION OF A
01:50 - 30.020 FIREFIGHTER. RACING INTO A
01:50 - 32.710 BURNING SKYSCRAPER WHO AMONG US
01:50 - 34.040 IS GOING TO SECOND GUESS THE
01:50 - 35.850 DECISION OF THE SOLDIER DRIVING
01:50 - 37.530 A VEHICLE. DONNA FOREIGN WROTE
01:50 - 39.190 WHO AMONG US IS GOING TO SECOND
01:50 - 41.200 GUESS THE DECISION OF A PILOT
01:50 - 43.590 FLYING OBJECT THAT LOSES ENGINE
01:50 - 45.090 POWER. ON DECEMBER
01:50 - 47.630 16TH, 2016 DOCTOR SHAFER FACED
01:50 - 49.060 A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION.
01:50 - 50.710 USING HER MEDICAL TRAINING AND
01:50 - 52.440 EXPERIENCE SHE TENDED TO REALLY
01:50 - 54.180 BE A TO PATIENTS PAIN. HER
01:50 - 55.730 MOTIVE WAS COMPASSION HER
01:50 - 57.690 JUDGMENT WAS CONSISTENT
01:50 - 59.100 WITH THE STANDARDS ACCEPTED BY
01:50 - 00.290 RESPONSIBLE SEGMENT OF THE
01:51 - 02.360 MEDICAL PROFESSION. THE DEATH
01:51 - 04.130 OF COACH MCADOO IS VERY
01:51 - 05.720 UNFORTUNATE AND WE MAY DEBATE
01:51 - 07.090 WHETHER OR NOT DOCTOR SHAFER
01:51 - 08.560 PROVIDED THE BEST CARE.
01:51 - 10.420 DOCTOR SCHAEFER'S ACTIONS ARE
01:51 - 11.600 CLEARLY NOT CRIMINAL.
01:51 - 13.630 NOW MEMBERS OF THE JURY
01:51 - 14.880 FAIRNESS DICTATES THEY SHOULD
01:51 - 15.760 NOT JUDGE MIKE LINE WITH THE
01:51 - 16.080 BENEFIT
01:51 - 17.850 OF HINDSIGHT. EXAMINE DOCTOR
01:51 - 18.840 SCHAEFER'S ACTIONS UNDER THE
01:51 - 20.530 CIRCUMSTANCES THAT SHE FACED AT
01:51 - 22.380 THE TIME AND A CERTAIN MEDICAL
01:51 - 24.200 LAWS AND PROCEDURES AS THEY
01:51 - 25.320 EXISTED AT THE TIME.
01:51 - 27.150 NOW THE PROSECUTION HAS THE
01:51 - 28.460 BURDEN OF PROVING TO BEYOND A
01:51 - 29.380 REASONABLE DOUBT THAT CRIMINAL
01:51 - 31.090 CHARGE THINK OF REASONABLE
01:51 - 31.830 DOUBT IN THIS WAY
01:51 - 33.630 AS YOU'RE LEAVING YOUR HOUSE IN
01:51 - 34.820 THE MORNING AND YOU'RE PULLING
01:51 - 35.000 OUT OF
01:51 - 37.020 YOUR DRIVEWAY. YOU QUESTION
01:51 - 38.570 WHETHER OR NOT YOU BROUGHT THAT
01:51 - 40.070 CAN DO IN YOUR KITCHEN. YOU
01:51 - 41.930 STOP YOU HESITATE, BUT
01:51 - 43.630 ULTIMATELY YOU GO BACK IN JUST
01:51 - 45.140 A DOUBLE CHECKED THAT IS
01:51 - 46.630 REASONABLE DOUBT AND AFTER THAT
01:51 - 47.790 IT'S NICE DELIBERATIONS YOU
01:51 - 49.790 HAVE ANY RESULTS OUT YOU MUST
01:51 - 51.410 FIND OUT SHE FOR NOT GUILTY.
01:51 - 53.560 THE MILITARY. LET'S LOOK AT
01:51 - 54.830 WHAT EVIDENCE THE PROSECUTION
01:51 - 56.020 FAILED FRESH TONIGHT,
01:51 - 57.580 THE PROSECUTION HAS THE BURDEN
01:51 - 58.760 OF PROVING TO BEYOND A
01:51 - 00.030 REASONABLE DOUBT, THE DOCTOR
01:52 - 01.390 SHAFER EITHER ACTED IN BAD
01:52 - 03.100 FAITH OR NOT WITH ACCORDING TO
01:52 - 04.140 SPONSOR A SEGMENT OF THE
01:52 - 06.670 MEDICAL PROFESSION PROVIDED NO
01:52 - 09.220 TESTIMONY FROM ANY POSITIONS.
01:52 - 11.280 THE ONLY 2 DOCTORS WHO
01:52 - 12.870 TESTIFIED HERE TONIGHT WHAT THE
01:52 - 14.860 DEFENSE EXPERT DOCTOR, I HATE
01:52 - 16.710 AND THE DEFENDANT HERSELF.
01:52 - 19.460 SCHIEFFER THE PROSECUTION ALSO
01:52 - 21.140 FAILED RIDE WITH AN AUTOPSY
01:52 - 23.130 REPORT WITH ANY BLOOD TESTING.
01:52 - 25.240 NOW IT IS UNDISPUTED AND WE
01:52 - 26.650 AGREE THAT COACH MCADOO
01:52 - 27.890 DIED DUE TO AN ADVERSE
01:52 - 28.940 INTERACTION BETWEEN IS AN
01:52 - 30.530 EXPERT TRY BY DOCTOR HAMBURG
01:52 - 32.090 AND OPRAH'S PRESCRIBED BY
01:52 - 33.700 DOCTOR SHAFER THE MEMBERS OF
01:52 - 35.080 THE JURY ASK YOURSELF.
01:52 - 36.440 WHAT ARE THE LEVELS OF THE
01:52 - 37.810 DRUGS FOUND IN COACH MAC THESE
01:52 - 39.090 BODY WHEN SHE'S DECEASED.
01:52 - 41.710 NOW THE DEFENSE HAS NO BURDEN
01:52 - 43.580 OF PROOF. WE PRESENTED 3
01:52 - 45.440 WITNESSES TONIGHT. FIRST YOU
01:52 - 47.320 HEARD FROM SCHAEFER WHICH WAS
01:52 - 49.210 ON DECEMBER 16TH 2016.
01:52 - 50.990 COACH MCADOO CAME TO SHOWING
01:52 - 52.970 EXTRA GREEN SIGNS. A
01:52 - 55.000 BREAKTHROUGH PAIN SWEATING
01:52 - 56.810 SHAKING AND EVEN POINT OUT HER
01:52 - 58.930 HAIR IN PAIN. HER MOTIVE WAS TO
01:52 - 00.280 ALLEVIATE HER PATIENTS PAIN.
01:53 - 02.530 NEXT YOU HEARD FROM SAO ADDED
01:53 - 04.340 WHO TOLD YOU DOCTOR SHE PURRS
01:53 - 06.080 FINANCIAL PROBLEMS BUT READ BY
01:53 - 07.760 THE PROSECUTION HAS SOME SORT
01:53 - 10.280 OF EVIL FORCE COMPELLING HER
01:53 - 12.940 FOR CASH FLOW. WE'RE WELL
01:53 - 14.300 BEHIND HER BY THE 2ND HALF OF
01:53 - 16.540 2016. AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST
01:53 - 17.950 YOU HEARD FROM DOCTOR I HATE A
01:53 - 19.020 LEADING PAIN MANAGEMENT
01:53 - 20.010 SPECIALIST FOR THE
01:53 - 21.570 COMMONWEALTH. BUT WHAT YOUR
01:53 - 22.890 DOCTOR SCHAEFER'S ACTIONS WERE
01:53 - 24.680 PERFECTLY LEGAL AND WITHIN A
01:53 - 25.860 RESPONSIBLE SEGMENT OF THE
01:53 - 28.830 MEDICAL PROFESSION. NOW MEMBERS
01:53 - 30.330 OF THE JURY. I ASK YOU.
01:53 - 32.510 PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO
01:53 - 34.540 THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING
01:53 - 36.560 THE DEATH OF COACH MCADOO ON
01:53 - 39.020 DECEMBER, 1620 16, PUSH BACK
01:53 - 40.540 AND WAS FOUND IN HER APARTMENT
01:53 - 42.160 THE SLUMPED OVER IN HER CHAIR.
01:53 - 44.280 SURROUNDING HER BODY WERE PILL
01:53 - 45.190 BOTTLES, DIFFERENT
01:53 - 46.700 PRESCRIPTIONS BY DIFFERENT
01:53 - 48.560 DOCTORS. MOST OF WHICH WERE ALL
01:53 - 50.910 EMPTY. BY HER BODY,
01:53 - 53.000 A TROPHY, A SYMBOL OF HER
01:53 - 55.790 FORMER, YET DISTANT FOR IT.
01:53 - 58.890 WHAT DO THESE CIRCUMSTANCES
01:53 - 00.110 TELL YOU ABOUT THE DEATH OF
01:54 - 00.840 COACH MCADOO.
01:54 - 04.150 THE OPIOID CRISIS IN AMERICA
01:54 - 06.340 CAN NOT BE SOLVED BY UNFAIRLY
01:54 - 07.510 TARGETING A WELL-MEANING
01:54 - 09.940 POSITION LIKE A FIREFIGHTER, A
01:54 - 11.860 SOLDIER AND A PILOT DOCTOR
01:54 - 13.560 SHAFER USE TO MEDICAL TRAINING
01:54 - 15.500 AND EXPERIENCE TO RELIEVE HER
01:54 - 17.600 PATIENT'S PAIN. AN ACT OF
01:54 - 19.930 COMPASSION IS NOT A CRIME AND
01:54 - 21.060 THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO
01:54 - 23.300 TONIGHT COMPELS YOU TO RETURN A
01:54 - 25.810 VERDICT OF NOT GUILTY. THANK
01:54 - 25.960 YOU.
01:54 - 48.220 OPPOSING COUNSEL MEMBERS OF THE
01:54 - 50.070 JURY. THEY HAVE FACED COURT.
01:54 - 52.750 TODAY YOU HAVE HEARD THE CASE
01:54 - 52.990 OF
01:54 - 53.760 RAY SCHAEFER.
01:54 - 56.010 >>A PAIN MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST
01:54 - 57.720 CHARGED WITH DRUG DELIVERY
01:54 - 58.980 RESULTING IN THE DEATHS
01:54 - 00.860 ABOUT OF A BELOVED HIGH SCHOOL
01:55 - 02.460 BASKETBALL COACH WON'T HAVE THE
01:55 - 03.090 MCADOO.
01:55 - 05.300 NOW THE COMMONWEALTH HAVE THE
01:55 - 06.590 BURDEN OF PROOF AND TODAY'S
01:55 - 08.420 CASE WHICH MEANS WE NEEDED TO
01:55 - 10.150 PROVE TO YOU BEYOND A
01:55 - 11.850 REASONABLE DOUBT THAT IN
01:55 - 13.410 TREATING MS. MCADOO THE
01:55 - 15.460 DESCENDANT EITHER DID NOT ACT
01:55 - 16.420 IN GOOD FACE.
01:55 - 17.240 >>OR.
01:55 - 19.060 >>ACTED IN A MANNER NOT
01:55 - 21.450 ACCEPTED BY RESPONSIBLE SECTION
01:55 - 21.640 OF THE
01:55 - 22.810 MEDICAL PROFESSION.
01:55 - 24.580 >>AND WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT
01:55 - 25.750 WHEN YOU REVIEW THE EVIDENCE
01:55 - 27.550 PRESENTED TODAY. YOU'LL
01:55 - 28.790 CONCLUDE THAT WE HAVE MET THAT
01:55 - 30.520 BURDEN SHOWING THAT THE
01:55 - 31.970 DEFENDANT WAS UNDER TOO MUCH
01:55 - 34.010 PRESSURE PRESCRIBING TOO MANY
01:55 - 36.060 OPIOIDS AND TAKING TOO FEW
01:55 - 38.130 PRECAUTIONS. LET'S REVIEW THAT
01:55 - 38.930 EVIDENCE.
01:55 - 41.360 YOU HEARD MISS KELSEY TELL YOU
01:55 - 43.150 THAT DESPERATE TO RESTART HER
01:55 - 45.110 CLINIC, THE DEFENDANT BEGAN TO
01:55 - 46.410 DESCRIBE IN MORE AND MORE
01:55 - 48.440 OPIOIDS WHILE STILL REFUSING TO
01:55 - 49.910 CONDUCT HERE IN SCREENINGS.
01:55 - 51.710 MISS KELSEY TOLD YOU THAT SHE
01:55 - 53.260 SAW THE DEFENDANT EXCHANGING
01:55 - 55.740 CASH WITH ONE OF HER PATIENTS
01:55 - 57.810 AND THIS KELSEY TOLD YOU THAT
01:55 - 59.420 ON THE DAY OF COACH MCADOO
01:55 - 01.300 STEPH THE DEFENDANT BASHED MS.
01:56 - 03.530 KELSEY FROM THE OFFICE REFUSED
01:56 - 05.720 TO CHECK THE PD M P AND SENT
01:56 - 07.200 COACH MCADOO ON HER WAY
01:56 - 08.900 WITH YET ANOTHER POTENT
01:56 - 10.900 PRESCRIPTION FOR OPIOIDS
01:56 - 13.420 HOURS LATER. COACH MCADOO WAS
01:56 - 13.720 DEAD.
01:56 - 16.410 NOW THE DEFENSE WOULD HAVE YOU
01:56 - 18.010 JUDGE DOCTOR SHAFER BASED ON
01:56 - 19.190 THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF
01:56 - 21.080 THAT DAY. WE AGREE THAT YOU
01:56 - 21.850 SHOULD BECAUSE THE
01:56 - 24.380 CIRCUMSTANCES OF THAT DAY THAT
01:56 - 25.420 DOCTOR SHAFER
01:56 - 27.470 WAS AFTER FINANCIAL GAIN AND
01:56 - 29.540 IGNORED ALL RED FLAGS WHEN
01:56 - 31.780 TREATING COACH MCADOO WHAT
01:56 - 33.170 EVIDENCE DOES THE DEFENSE
01:56 - 35.640 PRESENT. THE TESTIMONY OF SAO
01:56 - 37.700 ABBOTT WHO TOLD YOU HERSELF.
01:56 - 39.820 HOW OBVIOUS COACH MCADOO WAS
01:56 - 42.430 POOR CONDITION, US THEY EXPECT
01:56 - 43.450 YOU TO TAKE THE WORD OF THE
01:56 - 45.510 DEFENDANT HERSELF WHO SOMEHOW
01:56 - 47.010 THOUGHT THAT SHE SHOULD RELY ON
01:56 - 48.000 THE WORD OF SOMEONE
01:56 - 49.460 WHO HAD BEEN PRESCRIBED AN
01:56 - 51.560 ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCE FOR 3 YEARS
01:56 - 53.220 AND WASN'T SO MUCH PAIN.
01:56 - 54.770 SHE COULD BARELY SPEAK.
01:56 - 57.620 THE DEFENSE EMPHASIZE THAT WE
01:56 - 59.030 DIDN'T CALL US POSITION TODAY
01:56 - 00.220 THAT MEMBERS OF THE JURY.
01:57 - 01.930 HOW MUCH WORTHWHILE IS IT TO
01:57 - 03.930 CALL TO PHYSICIANS. ONE US WHO
01:57 - 05.490 STANDS TO GO TO PRISON IF THEY
01:57 - 07.350 LOSE. AND ONE US FILM
01:57 - 08.910 HAS WORKED ON BEHALF OF THE
01:57 - 10.790 OPIOID INDUSTRY ON MULTIPLE
01:57 - 13.280 OCCASIONS. DOCTOR HATE HERSELF
01:57 - 14.850 ADMITTED THAT SHE WOULD BE
01:57 - 16.610 HORRIFIED IF SHE HAD TREATED
01:57 - 18.410 COACH MCADOO THE SAME WAY
01:57 - 19.710 DOCTOR SHAFER HAD.
01:57 - 22.350 NOW THE DEFENSE WANTS TO DRAW
01:57 - 24.370 SMOKE SCREEN USING DOCTOR WILL
01:57 - 25.700 SUE HARRISON AND DOCTOR
01:57 - 26.690 MARGARET HAMBURG.
01:57 - 29.320 BUT ALL OF THESE PILLS THESE
01:57 - 30.690 HUNDREDS OF PILLS THAT COULD
01:57 - 32.450 HAVE KILLED COACH MCADOO WERE
01:57 - 33.510 PRESCRIBED BY
01:57 - 35.820 THE DEFENDANT. DOCTOR SHE FIRST
01:57 - 37.420 NAME IS ON THE PRESCRIPTION AND
01:57 - 39.150 DOCTOR SHE FIRST NAME IS ON
01:57 - 41.360 THE DOCKET DO NOT LET THEM
01:57 - 43.790 DISTRACT YOU BY BLAMING DOCTORS
01:57 - 45.560 WHO ARE NOT ON TRIAL TODAY.
01:57 - 48.250 COMPARE THAT WITH THE EVIDENCE
01:57 - 49.580 OF OUR WITNESSES
01:57 - 51.720 NOT ONLY DID HE SURE TESTIMONY
01:57 - 52.990 FROM MISS KELSEY ABOUT THE
01:57 - 54.320 DEFENDANT'S INCREASINGLY
01:57 - 56.710 SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR. BUT YOU
01:57 - 58.390 HEARD DETAIL TESTIMONIES FROM
01:57 - 00.230 AGENT ROYAL COPELAND, WHO
01:58 - 01.650 SHOWED YOU THAT WALL TREATING
01:58 - 03.590 COACH MCADOO PENA WAYS
01:58 - 05.210 PRESCRIPTION RATES WITH 30
01:58 - 06.690 PERCENTAGE POINTS HIGHER THAN
01:58 - 06.780 THE
01:58 - 08.900 NATIONAL AVERAGE. THIS IS A
01:58 - 10.520 SURE SIGN OF THE DOCTOR HUNGRY
01:58 - 12.150 FOR FINANCIAL GAIN AND AGENT
01:58 - 14.590 COPELAND WAS THE SECOND WITNESS
01:58 - 15.430 TO RELATE.
01:58 - 16.950 DOCTOR SCHAEFER'S CASH
01:58 - 18.520 EXCHANGES WITH PATIENTS.
01:58 - 20.870 AND YOU HEARD FROM J J T S A
01:58 - 22.560 WHO TOLD YOU THAT DESPITE THE
01:58 - 24.430 DEFENDANTS BANKRUPTCY, HER
01:58 - 25.950 LIFESTYLE AND SPENDING HABITS
01:58 - 28.140 NEVER CHANGED. THIS IS A SURE
01:58 - 29.570 SIGN OF THE DOCTOR WHO IS
01:58 - 30.750 RUNNING A CASH BUSINESS
01:58 - 32.330 BORN OUT BY THE FACT THAT THE
01:58 - 33.610 DEFENDANT REFERRED TO A
01:58 - 35.700 PATIENT. AS A CASH FLOW.
01:58 - 38.000 DOES THAT SOUND LIKE SOMETHING
01:58 - 39.250 YOU WOULD WANT YOUR DOCTOR
01:58 - 41.080 TO DO. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE
01:58 - 43.190 SOMETHING A RESPONSIBLE DOCTOR
01:58 - 44.350 WITH HER PATIENTS BEST
01:58 - 45.690 INTERESTS AT HEART WOULD DO.
01:58 - 49.180 OF COURSE NOT. MEMBERS OF
01:58 - 51.370 THE JURY. TODAY YOU HAVE A DUTY
01:58 - 51.940 AND
01:58 - 53.970 AN OPPORTUNITY TO HOLD DOCTOR
01:58 - 55.230 SHAFER ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE
01:58 - 57.170 TRAGIC AND PREVENTABLE DEATHS
01:58 - 59.600 MISS HADLEY MCADOO BECAUSE
01:58 - 01.080 DOCTOR SHAFER WAS UNDER TOO
01:59 - 03.160 MUCH PRESSURE PRESCRIBING TOO
01:59 - 05.440 MANY OPIOIDS AND TAKING TOO FEW
01:59 - 07.610 PRECAUTIONS. AND DESPITE WHAT
01:59 - 08.510 SHE MIGHT HAVE SAID ON THE
01:59 - 10.500 STAND. ONE OVERDOSE AT HER
01:59 - 12.600 CLINIC IS ONE OVERDOSE TOO
01:59 - 12.980 MANY.
01:59 - 15.410 WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WHEN YOU
01:59 - 16.830 REVIEW THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED
01:59 - 18.540 TODAY, YOU'LL FIND FOR THE
01:59 - 20.280 COMMONWEALTH AND FIND DOCTOR
01:59 - 22.740 SHAFER GUILTY OF DRUG DELIVERY
01:59 - 23.960 RESULTING IN THE DEATHS.
01:59 - 26.160 LET'S HAVE ACTIVE. THANK YOU.
01:59 - 39.430 >>I ASKED THE ICY JOINING IN
01:59 - 41.120 THESE TEAMS AROUND THE FIGHTS.
01:59 - 57.680 AND THIS TIME I'M GOING TO
01:59 - 58.900 EXCUSE THE JURY.
02:00 - 31.510 TO ANY
02:00 - 33.470 OF THE DO ANY COUNCIL HAVE
02:00 - 36.610 RESOLUTIONS THAT NEED TO BRING
02:00 - 37.570 TO THE COURT'S ATTENTION AT
02:00 - 38.100 THIS TIME.
02:00 - 46.790 THIS IS ME I KNOW I KNOW YOU
02:00 - 48.440 ARE ALL EXHAUSTED, I'M SURE
02:00 - 50.050 IT'S BEEN A LONG FEW DAYS IN A
02:00 - 50.840 LONG SEASON.
02:00 - 54.300 >>I AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF
02:00 - 57.170 MY BIO I WAS INCLUDED BEFORE I
02:00 - 58.630 CAME OUT. BUT.
02:00 - 01.450 18 YEARS AGO AND I WAS A
02:01 - 03.880 LAUGHER. FOLLOWING
02:01 - 05.390 LAW SCHOOL. I GOT MY
02:01 - 07.940 START I WITH MOCK TRIAL AS AN
02:01 - 10.210 ATTORNEY ADVISER. I FOR A HIGH
02:01 - 11.660 SCHOOL TEAM. AND
02:01 - 14.300 IT WAS ABOUT 17 YEARS AGO THAN
02:01 - 15.670 THAT I WAS IN THIS COURTROOM AS
02:01 - 16.810 AN ATTORNEY ADVISER.
02:01 - 19.950 FOR C THE FINAL ROUND AND IT
02:01 - 21.840 WAS A REALLY EXCITING TIME I'VE
02:01 - 23.650 LIVED. I'M JUDY ATTORNEY
02:01 - 24.590 ADVISOR ALL.
02:01 - 27.220 THIS EXPERIENCE AND IT'S
02:01 - 29.400 EXTREMELY NERVE-RACKING BUT
02:01 - 31.140 EXTREMELY EXCITING TO ME FIND
02:01 - 32.860 IT HAVE TO SAY YOU YOU ARE
02:01 - 34.400 PHENOMENAL AND I KNOW THE WORK
02:01 - 35.750 THAT GOES INTO THIS NOT JUST
02:01 - 36.000 WITH
02:01 - 38.700 THE STUDENTS AND THE WITNESSES
02:01 - 39.930 AND THE ATTORNEYS AND THE TIME
02:01 - 41.450 KEEPERS IN THE ENTIRE TEAM.
02:01 - 43.420 BUT STUDENTS I THINK WE SHOULD
02:01 - 44.270 TURN AROUND AND GIVE YOUR
02:01 - 45.790 PARENTS AND YOUR TEACHERS AND
02:01 - 47.340 VISORS AND TEAMMATES.
02:01 - 01.260 A PROGRAM THAT RUNS ON.
02:02 - 03.480 I'M VOLUNTEERS NOT JUST TO THE
02:02 - 04.760 BAR ASSOCIATION, THE YOUNG
02:02 - 06.920 LAWYERS DIVISION BUT THROUGH
02:02 - 08.510 TEACHERS WHO GET EXTRA TIME TO
02:02 - 10.170 THEIR TEENS AND PARENTS WHO GET
02:02 - 11.110 YOU GUYS THERE.
02:02 - 13.490 >>AND ATTORNEYS WHO HELPED
02:02 - 15.780 SUPPORT YOU I WAS WITH HIM WITH
02:02 - 17.120 LEGAL ISSUES AND PREPARE YOUR
02:02 - 20.190 CASES AND I I CAN TELL YOU THAT
02:02 - 22.190 IN MY EXPERIENCE FOR YOU GUYS
02:02 - 23.670 TO GET HERE, I KNOW
02:02 - 26.940 THAT YOU DEVOTE AS MUCH TIME TO
02:02 - 28.200 THIS ACTIVITY
02:02 - 31.190 AS ANY ATHLETE DOES AS ANY.
02:02 - 34.480 >>I AT ANY OTHER
02:02 - 36.850 SCHOOL ACTIVITY DICE AND SO YOU
02:02 - 38.080 REALLY DESERVE A LOT
02:02 - 38.640 OF CREDIT.
02:02 - 40.190 >>TERM FOR THE WORK THAT YOU
02:02 - 41.310 PUT INTO THIS DECISION
02:02 - 43.730 EXTRAORDINARY EFFORT. THIS
02:02 - 46.150 SUBJECT MATTER I HAVE TO SAY IS
02:02 - 47.630 SOME OF THE MOST TIMELY
02:02 - 50.630 TIMELY MY TRUCK IS AND SEEN
02:02 - 51.470 OVER THE YEARS.
02:02 - 55.310 I I SEEMS A IN FEDERAL COURT
02:02 - 57.400 AND IN ADDITION TO PENNSYLVANIA
02:02 - 58.400 AND WE SEE
02:02 - 01.380 UNFORTUNATELY I TREMENDOUS
02:03 - 05.110 I NUMBERS OPIOID HE SAYS.
02:03 - 08.710 >>AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
02:03 - 11.990 FORTUNATELY IT TO SAY HERE AN
02:03 - 13.620 UNUSUAL POSITION BE HAS I THINK
02:03 - 14.800 THE DECISION TO PROSECUTE OR
02:03 - 16.950 NOT PROSECUTE. THESE CASES AND
02:03 - 18.140 THEN HE DID IF ANY SHOULD BE
02:03 - 19.770 AND THAT IS IS TO DEVELOP THE
02:03 - 22.580 AREA. IT'S IT'S CHALLENGING AND
02:03 - 23.610 CERTAINLY A CRISIS
02:03 - 25.630 THAT IS IS IN OUR OUR
02:03 - 26.840 COMMONWEALTH NOW I THOUGHT THE
02:03 - 28.320 SUBJECT MATTER IS VERY TIMELY
02:03 - 30.070 VERY SENSITIVE AND HARD.
02:03 - 31.290 >>I 4.
02:03 - 34.290 >>HIGH SCHOOL SEEMS
02:03 - 36.640 TO DRESS AND YOU ARE GOOD SO
02:03 - 37.460 PHENOMENALLY.
02:03 - 40.570 YOU'RE HANDLING OF OBJECTIONS
02:03 - 42.220 ON ALL SIDES IS WONDERFUL YOU
02:03 - 44.050 GUYS YOU ARE WE'RE PREPARING
02:03 - 46.020 AND POISED AND I HAVE TO SAY
02:03 - 47.690 WHEN THE CHALLENGES AND BEING
02:03 - 49.280 IN THIS ROLE
02:03 - 51.440 IS THAT IT'S HARD FOR ME NOT TO
02:03 - 53.050 GO BACK ON MONDAY MORNING AND
02:03 - 54.330 LOOK AND COUNCIL IN FRONT OF ME
02:03 - 54.980 AND SAY
02:03 - 56.110 WHAT ARE YOU KNOW THE RULES OF
02:03 - 57.250 EVIDENCE AS WELL AS SOME OF THE
02:03 - 00.600 >>I'M REMINDED OF WHAT HAPPENED
02:04 - 01.860 WHEN I WAS IN PRACTICE THAT
02:04 - 06.430 HAVE THE A LOT
02:04 - 08.330 IF YOU VERY FORTUNATE TO BE
02:04 - 08.520 ABLE
02:04 - 11.060 TO FOCUS ON THIS ONE CASE OVER
02:04 - 12.490 THE LAST FEW MONTHS WHEREAS
02:04 - 13.990 MOST COUNCIL HOPEFULLY HAVE
02:04 - 14.910 MORE THAN ONE CASE THAT THEY'RE
02:04 - 15.610 FOCUSING ON.
02:04 - 18.140 BUT THAT THAT NOT WITHSTANDING
02:04 - 18.370 YOUR
02:04 - 21.140 AND THE RULES OF COMPETITION OF
02:04 - 22.400 THE RULES OF EVIDENCE AND OF
02:04 - 24.650 HIS MATERIAL. THIS IS JUST
02:04 - 27.210 OUTSTANDING SO CONGRATULATIONS
02:04 - 28.810 TO ALL OF YOU FOR GETTING
02:04 - 31.450 THIS FAR. I YOU GUYS DID A
02:04 - 33.640 ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL JOB ALL
02:04 - 36.090 AND HE SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF
02:04 - 38.260 YOURSELVES AND ACT, I'VE YOUR
02:04 - 40.270 TEAMMATES AND OF YOUR SUPPORT.
02:04 - 44.170 I BELIEVE IT'S TIME FOR YATES
02:04 - 46.620 TALK TO EACH
02:04 - 48.390 OTHER AND GET YOUR BEST
02:04 - 49.310 ADVOCATE INVESTMENT
02:04 - 51.090 CERTIFICATES PC AND THEN LOOK
02:04 - 51.580 CHANGE THEM.
02:06 - 41.310 >>WE'RE PRESENTING THE BEST
02:06 - 43.230 AFRICA WERE TO ELIZABETH R B.
02:06 - 54.250 AND THE BEST WITNESS WAR 2 GI
02:06 - 55.270 ON A SICK CASE.
02:07 - 05.090 >>PRESENT THE BEST ADVOCATE A
02:07 - 06.450 WORD TO CLOSE WITH FRANK.
02:07 - 15.400 WHAT DOES THE SARAH MILLER.
02:07 - 25.140 >>HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS AND
02:07 - 26.240 HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY
02:07 - 27.560 QUESTIONS NOT RELATED TO
02:07 - 28.610 SUBSTANCE OF THE CASE.
02:07 - 31.160 AND THE RACE BEGINS WEEK FOR
02:07 - 32.160 THE JURY TO COME BACK AND YOU
02:07 - 33.220 GUYS CAN TALK MY EARS OUT
02:07 - 33.490 SOUTH.
02:08 - 45.620 >>ITS VERDICT WILL BE THE
02:08 - 47.280 WINNER OF THE STATE COMPETITION
02:08 - 48.380 TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
02:08 - 50.250 THE JURY VERDICT IS THE WINNER
02:08 - 51.390 OF THE STATE COMPETITION.
02:08 - 52.930 YOU'RE ON THAT. THANK YOU.
02:08 - 54.670 >>HAS THE JURY REACHED A
02:08 - 58.250 VERDICT THE EURO. WE THE JURY
02:08 - 59.850 FIND IN FAVOR OF THE DEFENSE.